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150,000 Recent Graduates At Shenzhen Job Fair

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A sea of people at Shenzhen Convention Center, 150,000 converged here to find a job.

A sea of people at Shenzhen Convention Center, 150,000 converged here to find a job.

From NetEase:

Only by looking down from the observation platform of the Shenzhen Convention Center’s first hall can one understand what is called a sea of people. 150,000 university graduates coming from different areas throughout all of China nearly overwhelmed the Shenzhen Convention Center. Such a scene would have been difficult to imagine had I not seen it with my own eyes.

Full of confidence and setting out on an important step in life, as long as one has knowledge, has ability, and has guts, one will have one's own space/place.

Full of confidence and setting out on an important step in life, as long as one has knowledge, has ability, and has guts, one will have one

Graduates from universities outside of the province converge on Shenzhen, 150,000 people compete for 20,000 employment positions.

Parked buses fill up a road near the Shenzhen Convention Center. Among them are many buses from other provinces [of China]. According to statistics, of the 150,000 graduates this time, over 70% are from universities outside of Guangdong province. Compared with last year’s job fair, this year’s attendance has reached new heights, but the number of employment positions available is still 20,000. Considering that many enterises are unable to recruit all the recent graduates they originally planned to, there are in reality less than 20,000 employment positions, causing the competition amongst graduate job-seekers to be even more intense.

Banking popular, securities and real estate cool.

At the scene of the job fair, the most crowded place was the finance area, and the most popular booths were bank recruiter booths. Despite suffering being pounded by the financial crisis, there was no drop in the banking industry’s popularity. Otherwise, the electronics industry, IT industry, and the logistics industry also received graduates’ attention. Although there were plenty of graduates choosing the securities and real estate industries, market conditions have already begun to cool.

After universities expanded enrollment numbers, finding a job has become even more difficult. The dense crowd of university student job-seekers look for a space/place to call their own.

After universities expanded enrollment numbers, finding a job has become even more difficult. The dense crowd of university student job-seekers look for a space/place to call their own.

Voluntarily reducing salary expectations and seeking suitable positions, graduates face the employment crisis.

From last year’s job fair, [demands like] “yearly salary 100,000 yuan” and “monthly salary must be 6000 yuan or higher” still ring in the ear. Last year’s science and engineering graduates nearly all requested monthly salaries of 5000 yuan and higher. This year, this kind of situation has already changed. Appropriately, more graduates were cool-headed and rational towards the employment situation, with most monthly salaries set around 3000-3500 yuan. Even more graduates were willing to accept around 2500 monthly salaries at the lowest. This price is positively “cheap”.

Submitting numerous resumes, throwing a net to catch fish.

Many graduates did not think this year’s job fair would be this packed. In order to get more opportunities, many graduates submitted numerous resumes, one day submitting 10 copies. Some girls wore off the heels of their high heels from running around. As a result of overexerting themselves, some university graduates needed their schoolmates to help them out of the convention center. Nowadays, finding a job really is not easy.

Interviews are an important step in the process of finding a job. Just a few words can more or less reveal a graduate's level.

Interviews are an important step in the process of finding a job. Just a few words can more or less reveal a graduate's "level."

Comments on Sina:

Really is shocking/astounding! It is becoming more and more difficult for university studnets!

I hope the country can let 50-year-old women retire as well as 55-year-old men, and let all the children have jobs. Only by doing this can society be stable.

Housing prices in the long-term probably will not come down, with this many people. :-(

All of them are a bunch of SB. You think the company will give you 2500 yuan? What a joke. First three months of probation at the lowest wage standard. After probation is over, they directly show you the door, and then recruit someone else for a three month probationary employment, again at the lowest wage standard. This is what Shenzhen does to the year’s recent graduates. Maybe there are people who say it is not this way for all recent graduates. Yes, that is true, it is not everyone. It will not be that way for those with connections or background. Understand? That is why it is said that the problem with society is not about ability but about connections!!!

Actually, it is the same everywhere! As long as one has true ability, why come to Shenzhen, this spirit-less, soul-less place?

Who can still say that China does not have human talent?!! Over a billion people, who knows what we will do in the future with that many people wanting jobs, with that many people not wanting to become workers, and with that many people leaving home to find jobs, because they cannot even farm successfully, ai! I only have sighs. Look at how developed America is, yet with so little people, even they still face employment-related problems. Then turn around and look at our own country. It is truly worrisome!!!

This kind of sea of people makes me tried just by watching. Graduating means unemployment. Life is not easy!

I also graduated this year, finding a job is too difficult!

Well done, only this way can inspire them, wish them all can find suitable jobs. At the same time, I despise those youth who loaf around, never do a day’s worth of honest work, and are burdens upon their parents.

So terrifying. Chinese people really know how to make babies, making this many people in just a short period. Are they all having sex at night, with nothing else to do but to make children?

One year, one Hong Kong. [meaning that the number of graduates per year is like the entire population of Hong Kong.]

Comments on NetEase:

Wow,
So many people.
Hehe,
The people selling food there that day must have gotten rich.

I also experienced that when I graduated. That day there was a small rain, and I was both cold and hungry.

What a magnificent/amazing scene…
This is true competition!~

Finding a job is hard. Recruiting workers is even more difficult. Because the vast majority of graduates are all unfit for a higher position and unwilling to accept a lower one.

Even though our company is nothing special, I plan on staying for awhile, because of the financial crisis. If it is not reduced salaries, then it is layoffs. It is not easy to have a job.

Ah. I submitted resume/CVs an entire morning, and left in the afternoon. If I stayed longer, my heart would have collapsed~

It is like the train crowds during Chinese New Year.

Seeing these I am reminded of all the Chinese New Year crowds at train stations. That sight is still fresh in my memory.

Comments on KDS:

The guy lying in the crystal display coffin needs to take responsibility. [referring to Mao]

Good thing they did not come to Shanghai…

Why is it all white clothes??

I bet it is because they want to be white-collar workers.

My god, is Shanghai’s metro [subway] going to explode next year?

How do they go to the restrooms?

Pictures from N years ago used yet again.

“Yun,” Chinese people are numerous.

Nearly every booth had masses and crowds of people.

Nearly every booth had masses and crowds of people.

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  1. Fuller
    Monday, November 10, 2008 at 11:19 am

    oops, should be “piss them off” not “miss them off”…

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  2. SniperWZ
    Monday, November 10, 2008 at 11:25 am

    @Fuller, you mean to say benoe misunderstands people and can’t read well enough to grasp concepts such as irony or sarcasm??? Hhaahahaha, I couldn’t tell!! I thought he was just slow like a 3 legged donkey!

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  3. smickno
    Monday, November 10, 2008 at 11:58 am

    Let me explain again.

    Lao = Old
    Wai = a short form for Wai Guo Ren = a person from another country.

    In the long form, it would Lao waiguoren

    Therefore, as long as you are not a Chinese national, you are a laowai. This would include Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Myammese…and even nationals of all countries of Chinese descent (except China)

    In France, just for an example, the French can also call anyone who is not a frenchman a laowai, and that includes a Chinese. It is not derogatory, but just a term in the Chinese vocabulary.

    The context it is sometimes being used among Chinese should not be confused with the pure meaning of the word. For instance, if some Middle Eastern people were to remark: those Americans are @#$%, whatever that is, it does not make the word American per se derogatory, even if the remark about Americans can be quite unflattering.

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  4. Rick in China
    Monday, November 10, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    Oh man, there is such an abundance of incorrectness in these comments it’s too daunting of a task to take on.

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  5. SniperWZ
    Monday, November 10, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    @Rick, please give it a try, please.

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  6. SniperWZ
    Monday, November 10, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    @smickno…I applaud your patience for the sake of educating benoe, who is quite “special”. No need to waste more effort though, benoe’s 很笨, 很糊涂…

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  7. benoe
    Monday, November 10, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    This is my last posting here, as contrary to some, I am neither laowai, nor in China, definitely not an English teacher in China, and most importantly: have BETTER things to do. I do work in education though, that’s why I thought I may brighten up some minds while warning SniperWZ not to insult others (he did and does, that’s why I am outta here).

    Just to sum it up: it’s sad to see that nobody seemed to grasp the point I was/am trying to make. Let me finally summarize it again, and I will rest it there, you may react to it the way you like, but I won’t read it or reflect on it, keep it in mind (to save your gas if your only purpose is to insult).

    1. Some of you may not have perceived SniperWZ’s earlier comments as “threats” (the latter ones were pure insults, without any scientific value), however, I, with decades of relevant experience perceived it as such (what’s more, I am convinced that it’s not only my perception, it’s a statistically proven fact, at least only my own observations amount to statistically relevant sampling). You may find it “interesting”, but unless you have a similarly thorough experience with the country (China) as I do, it’s unlikely that I will learn from you. I only learn from people MORE experienced than me. I expect the less experienced to listen, take notes, and learn. It is indeed a typical character in that part of the world to spy on others, report and even deport them. If you think it’s “fun” only, it may be because of the limited nature of your China-experience. Keep in mind that these deportations are not publicized, they happen “behind the curtains”. Sure it happens elsewhere too (in the US, too), but in Asia it’s dominant. You can’t possibly make me change my mind, after having lived there and seen these things happening with my own eyes on a monthly basis. SniperWZ’s comments are sadly perfect representations of the dark side of China. I am somewhat surprised that Americans don’t feel that “there is something wrong” with comments like that. I only know that comments like would be absolutely unacceptable (and even illegal) in Europe. Also, to be honest, SniperWZ does not sound like an American. He may claim to be one, but his words defy him. In any case, my suggestion is to re-visit the Constitution and just look around in the indigenous American population, how many of them give hints to report fellow American English teachers to Chinese authorities for dating Chinese girls. Somehow in dissonance to my eyes, that’s what prompted me to write.

    2. Re the laowai denomination, again not one soul managed to see what I was trying to say (although I think I explained in detail). OK, here comes a down-to-earth example, maybe it lights up some bulbs in some minds: imagine you are a whatever person in a whatever country. You got used to see the same faces every day. Your mind makes a pattern, associating similarly looking people with “one of us”, and non-similarly looking people as “not one of us”. OK, so one day you look around and visually state the fact that one of the faces that you see around you is dissimilar with your “pattern”. This makes you jump to the conclusion that “this person is not one of us” (hence a “foreigner”, “laowai”, or whatever you like to call this phenomenon in your language). OK. This happens in quite many in the IQ 100 plus/minus 20 (thus average) population. Now, what I was/am trying to tell you folks, is that if you keep this genius “conclusion” of yours (ie. “this person is definitely a foreigner”) to yourself and keep silent, you are better off, than opening your mouth, resonating your voicecords and uttering the words “foreigner” into the air around you. These soundbytes may reach the ears of people around you, and if you are lucky, they are in the same IQ class, and won’t notice a thing, because their limited brains interpret the same thing the same way. However, the day may come when an intelligent person is within your radius and would educate you, hearing your “foreigner” comment: “My dear friend. Just because this person does not look like us, s/he can equally well be one of us. It is quite possible that this person was born here, and all his or her ancestors are also “one of us”. It is PREMATURE to judge someone by his exteriors.” I personally know white skinned, blonde, blue-eyed CHINESE nationals IN CHINA. Imagine their frustration to be stamped as a “foreigner” in their motherland during their entire life, just because of the ignorance, lack of education and lack of logical reasoning skills of a billion-strong population.

    That’s all I was attempting to contribute here, but apparently some people with testosterone-hormon surpluses mis-interpreted them as red flags for flame (which they weren’t). I leave you all with figuring out what I was really saying, and see if you understand my point or not. If you do, you do yourself a favor and join the club of civilized, intelligent people on Planet Earth (see? no countries here, it’s only one of the planets in the Solar System). If not, well, life is long (hopefully), keep improving :-)

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  8. benoe
    Monday, November 10, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    TahwYOJ: I would prefer people being wise and not labeling each other every time they THINK they know something. E.g. calling the newly elected President of the United States a “black”, “African-American”, etc President shows two big problems. First, Barack Hussein Obama is 50% black, 50% white, so he could equally well be called “white” President. The choice of “black” is an error here. Second, as far as I know (but correct me someone if I am wrong) the United States is about eliminating racism. Talking about skin color, nationality, religious beliefs, etc is clearly racially motivated, hence unconstitutional. I wonder how those media machines can get away with daily referring to President Obama as a “black” person. First of all, he isn’t (entirely), second, even if he were, SO WHAT? WHO CARES? You don’t govern a country with your skin pigments, rather with your BRAIN. It simply DOES NOT MATTER how a President (of any country, for that matter, not only the USA) looks like. Talking about it shows low levels of intelligence.

    SAME comment for calling people “foreigners”, just because their faces are not recognized immediately.

    By the way, don’t think that only American as “where are you from” as one of the first questions, right after “hello”. Chinese do EXACTLY the same. First a “chi fan le mei you” (confirming that the stomachs are full), and right after that “ni shi na li ren” (where are you from?). Looks like a general phenomenon in some parts of the world. I can tell you a good news: if you don’t like that, welcome to Europe. Europeans are statistically better educated, and seldom, if ever ask someome where they are from (we leave it to everyone themselves to decide to reveal that piece of information or not).

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  9. Smith
    Monday, November 10, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    So many people, and until now I really really seldom find a chinese with a nice resume. So hard competition and they still do not get the important to spend time on a nice resume with a nice presentation, and with really think carefully wording to be as short as possible but still give the important information.

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  10. SniperWZ
    Monday, November 10, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    @benoe, I’m nearly speechless after reading what is one of the most long winded yet meaningness piece of garbage ever written, your “decades of experience” means nothing, since you are clearly clueless on almost everything you commented. The only thing I learned from you is that you’re a long winded, pedantic idiot who probably never succeeded at much anything other than churning out “scholarly” pedagogical articles in some obscure journal read by no one.

    More benoes (henceforth, “benoes” will be a new term meaning dumb, idiotic quotes) below:

    “Talking about skin color, nationality, religious beliefs, etc is clearly racially motivated, hence unconstitutional.”

    - hahahahahahahah, name the article in the Bill of Rights or any Constitutional Amendments thereof that support your statement…talking about nationality and religious beliefs are also “racially” motivated???? You are clearly not even aware of what’s going on in the United States (much less China, for that matter), African Americans are rejoicing for the election of Obama and yes, they see Obama as black, as one of them, and that’s how most people in the U.S. view Obama as well; if you have even remote knowledge or experience in the U.S., you would be aware that in popular culture, rightly or wrongly, people are referred to as black or African American if they are half or even sometimes quarter black (think Beyonce, but you probably have no clue).

    Good riddance, benoe you laowai, and stay in Old Europe.

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  11. jayman
    Tuesday, November 11, 2008 at 8:46 am

    @Benoe

    hairsplitting for fun? :-) I would prefer you contributing something meaningful rather than unessential.

    I’m sorry if I offended you. I did not point out that error to make you feel bad or to mock you for your lack of understanding. And I certainly wasn’t telling you how to feel. I just wanted you to be upset for the right reasons.

    But I do find it interesting that you call me out for not adding anything meaningful, despite my initial post where I did try to change the scope of the proceedings.

    And you go on to say that anyone who does not share your views or your experiences is incapable of changing your mind, anyway.

    We call that “prejudice.”

    On that basis, I was going to ignore the other misjudgments in your statements but I finally decided that there may be other readers who would like to know where (I think) you’ve made mistakes.

    I am somewhat surprised that Americans don’t feel that “there is something wrong” with comments like that.

    In America, we say “I may not agree with what you’ve said, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” We don’t place a lot of value in talk. Anyone can say pretty much any thing. Actions are what matter to us.

    At the risk of sounding like I’m putting words in his mouth, I feel that even if SniperWZ may have made a joke in poor taste, that’s a far cry from actively trying to (or claiming the ability to) deport someone.

    Which is why, while I think that the insults may not be strictly necessary, I honestly do not think that SniperWZ was saying what you are accusing him of saying. Nor do I believe that his heart holds such thoughts as you attribute to him.

    I only know that comments like would be absolutely unacceptable (and even illegal) in Europe.

    Socially unacceptable, perhaps. But the only speech I’ve actually seen prohibited by law in Europe is denying the Holocaust. Most (if not all) of the EU nations are signatories to the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, which guarantees freedom of expression.

    Talking about skin color, nationality, religious beliefs, etc is clearly racially motivated, hence unconstitutional.

    It is the noble goal of all Americans to someday live in a world where race does not matter. Even so, words are never prohibited by the Constitution. Nor does the law attempt to say what people should think. Our laws only prevent people from acting on those ideas.

    @SniperWZ

    @jayman, thanks for your attempt (albeit fruitless) to explain a simple concept to a simpleton, yet for your efforts, benoe accused you of “hairsplitting”??

    I’m just trying to make sure that conflicts are based on the facts. I’m not trying to stop conflict or judge the participants. He’s free to dislike me for my efforts, I do not mind. As long as he dislikes me for the right reasons.

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  12. SniperWZ
    Tuesday, November 11, 2008 at 9:35 am

    @jayman, thanks for your post, but I think benoe, who is a caricature of an extreme neo-Jacobin PC police, already made it clear: his small, ossified mind does not intake contradictory evidences to his preconceptions, it is crucial to his self-identity, too much does of cognitive dissonance will cause irreparable damage to his fragile ego and delusions of grandeur, much like Lu Xun’s Ah Q, he has yet again won a great “victory” and left this site!!

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  13. benoe
    Tuesday, November 11, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    Jayman: you didn’t refute me either, but just to set somethign right: the SnipzerWZ-type comments are not “jokes” (in poor taste) as you labelled them: they are REAL (wake up to reality, please) threats. If you have ever been to China, you may have witnessed it yourself (although they try to do it really subtle). Foreigners ARE a) not let in, b) spied on and c) deported on a daily basis in China. It is the essence of that culture: CONTROL for the sake of control.

    That’s what I tried to contrast with the (at least on paper) free and prosperous America, whose citizens on this space demonstrate some alarming level of naivity and cockiness. This further reinforces Chinese people’s believes that we are barbarians compared with them, and rightly so.

    Instead of pointless finger-pointings here and talking about EACH OTHER, why don’t you just say “benoe, thanks for the reminder, indeed we think it’s unethical to make so-called “strategic phonecalls” and we will defend what the French achieved for mankind in the future, even AMONG OURSELVES.” In such a spirit the SniperWZ comments are neither funny, nor just politically incorrect: they are simply dangerous. For two reasons: First, if you, ignorant American think that “come on, I don’t think it’s real, it’s only a joke”, then TRY IT FOR YOURSELF. Good luck. It IS real. Second danger: if you don’t see through such comments and see their REAL (hidden) motives (which is NOT trying to be humorous, rather, really threatening in nature), then without alertness and savvy this otherwise totally inhumane practice of disallowing privacy in China can continue to flourish.

    Is my standpoint still not clear? In that case I would suggest you go see it for yourself.

    I promised not to write, so this must have been written by someone else in my name. The real benoe is already doing something more worthwhile than playing Don Quijote with cocky cowboys :-)

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  14. Kai
    Tuesday, November 11, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    @ benoe:

    Didn’t you say you weren’t going to respond anymore?

    Dude, your entire argument with SniperWZ was because you both misunderstood what he wrote AND you read too much into it. I’m still trying to figure out how that is even possible. It is like successfully dividing by zero.

    SniperWZ has written some really outrageous and ludicrous stuff, but in the instance that you’ve cited as him threatening to call the authorities on you, you’re wrong. Again, the reason you are wrong is because you misunderstood it and I dare say you’ve even convinced yourself that your interpretation of what he said is what he actually meant.

    Personally, I find it incredibly amusing that someone who has been in China for so long (as you claim) isn’t picking up on the inherent humor (but yes, disturbing if you’re the victim) of what he suggested: Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, especially one in China who is crazy enough to go to the ends of getting you in trouble with the immigration authorities for revenge.

    I don’t think anyone is saying “no, getting spied on and deported doesn’t suck” just like no one is suggesting that you fuck over someone is a nice thing to do. Why you persist on arguing this point is lost to me and clearly just about everyone before me. I’m not even sure anyone is actually arguing with you about what you think you’re arguing for.

    You’ve gone off the deep-end. The only reason I haven’t lambasted you yet is because others before you have set the bar ridiculously high and my ignorance of all the misguided ranting you must’ve vomited on this thread leads me to still have faith that you’re still an okay guy.

    Seriously, go back and reread. SniperWZ can ruffle your feathers if he wants to, but it is mind-boggling how far you’ve taken this misunderstanding. Has anyone made fun of your reading comprehension yet? Come on, dude, take a moment to check yourself here.

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  15. benoe
    Tuesday, November 11, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Kai, you also misunderstand everything… just like “all before you”. Anyway, it’s really tiring to “argue” with people who just don’t seem to care. FINAL WORDS (I am not benoe, benoe has left already):

    1. Benoe is NOT affected by any comments here. She doesn’t live in China. She didn’t take any of the comments “personally”, she is talking about general principles of good manner.

    2. Benoe was pointing out (unsuccessfully) that what you, ignorant people consider as “fun” is in fact “not fun”, but harsh reality. If you are interested in the REAL China, then you may take note, if not, go on dreaming (who cares, after all?)…

    I will follow the real benoe and unsubscribe from this thread, because I think it’s dead. You males can go on forever proving that yours is bigger, I already stated my point clearly enough for those who have a decent mind to understand it, job done. Happy misunderstandings all the way, and happy stay in China.

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  16. Kai
    Tuesday, November 11, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    @ benoe:

    1. Self-professed mantle-bearer of “principles.”
    2. Penchant for making irrelevant distinctions based upon gender.
    3. General self-righteous holier-than-thou attitude.

    LoL, are you Ann in disguise?

    Holy shit, I missed you!

    No no, don’t go…I’m waiting for the new kids like jayman to tear you a new one!

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  17. benoe
    Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 12:39 am

    Kai, read my name backwards and you will get the answer to your question :-) But once you figured it out, please don’t tell the conclusion to others…

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  18. SniperWZ
    Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 12:51 am

    @benoe, hahahaha, it makes sense now, you’re French!!! That explains the overbearing pedanditry, faux sense of superiority, and mistaking dogma and prejudice for knowledge. That also explains this neo-jacobin mindset, first illustrated in Rousseau’s writings, that somehow everyone’s thinking (and not just actions) must be controlled by a superior political entity!! It’s amazing you fit all this caricaturized profile so well!!! You are almost like the mythical French figure everyone in America makes fun of since John Adams was president, except I always thought someone like you never existed, until now!

    Hhahah, @kai, I and others already mocked benoe’s lack of reading comprehension, but perhaps it’s just self-deception instead.

    Another benoe (which is a new term invented meaning dumb, stupid quotes) to savor:

    “and we will defend what the French achieved for mankind in the future”

    - hahahaha, and what is that achievement? America restored republican government and democracy and has been an example of how to do it right for over 200 years now, while the French descended into Jacobin terror and unstable governments, providing a template for Marxists and Communists and other totalitarian figures…Paris Commune anyone? What the French “achieved” was discredited and should never be repeated again, while you oppress the North Africans, America has just elected the first African-American president. Nobody in the world if fooled by you and your faux “achievements”.

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  19. benoe
    Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 1:40 am

    It’s against the Netiquette to talk about each other, so I refrain from flaming. Benoe is _not_ French though (oops), so SniperWZ may try some other insult instead. Too bad benoe doesn’t read these very valuable comments anymore. I guess I will also unsubscribe from here, it’s getting boring…

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  20. SniperWZ
    Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 1:43 am

    so go away then

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  21. jayman
    Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 10:28 am

    @Kai

    I’m waiting for the new kids like jayman to tear you a new one!

    Though there are some exceptions, I usually want to avoid getting involved in arguments. I feel my foreigner status and lack of personal experience in China reduces the the weight my words may have.

    So instead I try to limit my comments to pointing out and clearing up possible misunderstandings. But I’m not always above the fray, sometimes I post before I spend enough time reflecting on what I should say.

    ps – I’m sorry to see you haven’t been commenting as much lately. I hope I have nothing to do with this.

    @SniperWZ

    @jayman, thanks for your post, but

    Benoe is not the only one reading. Even though I have almost no chance of changing her mind, I hope that at least someone finds my comments useful.

    I’m not trying to “win” or “beat” anyone. I’m just want to build a little understanding.

    @Benoe

    Jayman: you didn’t refute me either

    I obviously have no evidence, but several other posters have said the same thing I did. Maybe it’s best to agree to disagree, because you have no evidence either. We both have the same thing, his statement as given, and that’s open to interpretation.

    While I may be naive, but I hope I don’t come across as arrogant. If something in my demeanor seems so, I want to be told how I may improve.

    @Everyone

    Don’t hesitate to email me (its419@gmail.com) if you have questions, comments, or just want to talk, but for whatever reason you don’t want to speak up in public.

    I only speak English, but I don’t mind if you are not perfectly fluent. I promise I won’t make fun of you, and will try my best to do whatever I can to help.

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  22. jayman
    Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 10:31 am

    ps What was the significance of Benoe backwards? I tried to search the web for it, but I found nothing. How does Eoneb lead to France?

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  23. Emmanuel
    Tuesday, July 21, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    China Guangzhou
    Men’s footwear designer
    Responsibilities (job description):

    Creating sketches of man’s footwear in the following styles: sport, casual, classic, with a different price segment.
    Selecting styles and suitable materials.
    taking control over sample manufacturing and it’s establishment in the manufacturing process in China’s factories.

    Requirements:

    A-2 year experience in footwear designing
    Knowledge of the latest trends in shoe designing
    Drawing skills
    We welcome skills in working with the following programs:

    Adobe Photoshop
    Corel draw

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  24. Fike2308
    Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 12:33 am

    These are the kind of stories that make me soooo glad to have been born American and not Chinese.

    I have NEVER had a problem finding a job in America or China….and I had to come to China to realize how truly awesome this is.

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  25. Jobbörse
    Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Great numbers, we have 10.000 each event and job fair!

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