‘China Does Not Have Any Men Suitable For Me’

Pretty Asian girl holding glass of wine.A Shanghai Jiaotong University female’s views on marriage.

Author: Self-professed leader of the Jiaotong University football [soccer] cheerleading team.

I am a female student of Shanghai Jiaotong University. It’s my first time writing a post. Please don’t laugh at my bad writing.

Everyone has an ideal in life. Some wants to become a hero, some wants to become rich, some other desires to become a leader. So what about me? My greatest wish in life is to marry a Western1 man. Some might say I am very vulgar, or even a turncoat, but I am a very traditional girl. To me, the most important thing in life is marriage. There is a very trendy saying currently, that studying well is not as good as marrying well. Marrying the right man is more important than anything else.

Some might ask, “Are there not enough good men in China?” Sorry, I have not considered before. As for the reason, don’t be impatient. Sofa, stool, the floor, take your pick, and listen to this girl’s reasons one by one.

I. China does not have any men suitable for me.

I am a very distinct/outstanding girl. In terms of academics, I am studying at a famous university, have an excellent academic record, and I am not one who wears thick glasses or sticks her head into books like a high-IQ geek. I have an excellent figure, an amazing look and a cultivated style of conversation. I am the leader of the football [soccer] cheerleading team. I took part in the local beauty pageants many times. I also have an interest for music, dance and art. Additionally, I often write some gossips for the newspaper. In summary, I am an excellent girl in every aspect. But what kind of man should I marry? There are lots of boys who are pursuing me, and most of my friends have boyfriends as well.

But when they graduate, they either break up, or they start talking about marriage, about family matters and where to settle down. They talk so seriously about everything, expect for love which is the most important thing in a marriage. I am very passionate about my life, I wish to have both a excellent materialist and spiritual life. Sorry that I can’t find that on a Chinese man. Marry a schoolmate, eventually become a white collar in a company? Can that afford a house?

I want to have a huge living room, big enough to be like a small salon. I could be together with my friends talking about anything under the sun, savoring high quality wine. Even the bathroom must be big enough to fit in a large bathtub, for two people, so I can put on some gentle music and spend a romantic night with my beloved husband.

Also, the guy I marry must at least have enough money to buy a car, right? Or am I supposed to go to work by bus everyday? It is like in a freezer in winter, and in a microwave in summer, and within a few years a beautiful young girl will become a dark-skinned granny. Besides, are you guys really willing to let a white-collar beauty like me be pushed around by those dirty migrant workers?

China definitely does not lack rich men, but have a look at what kind of people they are. How many of them succeeded due to their own effort, ability or honesty? If they are not brick-moving labour contractors, then they are coal-digging boss from Shanxi, or they are corrupt. They are neither civilised, nor do they have a good bearing. How am I supposed to converse with them? To be honest, they will regard it as art if you are able to hum a few lines of pop music.

When they have money, they will go out eating, drinking, visiting prostitutes, or gambling. Just trying to live a peaceful life would be difficult. There are already people coming to the university to pursue me, extending their arms to give me business cards showing that they are some CEO, chairmen of the board, high-ranking bureaucrats, each of them wealthier and more arrogant than the other. Some even directly suggest me to be their concubine. Oh my God! I may not be an exceptionally beautiful woman, but I am at least a young and beautiful girl, who worked very hard for years to get into a prestigious university, and I can only be a mistress?!

II. Western countries have better living conditions.

Even if a rich single guy, outstanding, elegant, and falls in love with me, hmph hmph, this girl [referring to self] still will not really want to marry him. To be blunt, I just want to marry into the West. The Western world I have seen in television and movies is simply like heaven: clean streets, elegant buildings, pure air. Regardless whether bustling cities or quiet villages, everything seems to be so peaceful and harmonious. Regardless their academic background, everyone is very polite.

Based on this MM‘s [my] abilities, I could of course be a woman who lives in a villa, but so what? Even if we can afford a villa, can we buy clean air? Isn’t there dirt and dust everywhere in this country? The rural areas are better, but I don’t want to go there. Wouldn’t it be weird, if while I am sun-bathing in a bikini at my swimming pool a bunch of farmers outside the fence carrying baskets of dung stare at me? Tibet indeed has very pure air, but please, this girl is afraid of high attitude sickness.

I especially dislike the current living environment. Every home has anti-theft doors, and despite having lived in the same building for years, everyone is awkward every time they meet each other. Many people can’t even be bothered to bring their garbage downstairs, piling it up in front of the doors in the summer stinking. Sometimes I even wonder whether I am not living together with a bunch of cavemen. Rice has poison, milk powder will result in big heads, pork is from floods, oil is from the ditches, just thinking about it makes me terrified.

Sorry, you want me to love you, give me a reason first? Don’t have any? Start loving foreign countries. The American “home town” [sic], France’s vinyards, Spanish coastal towns, British medieval villages, it could be any of those. One of my schoolmates went to study abroad in Canada, and brought his/her father there for half a year. and when he came back he would whine: “Ai, that [Canada] is really a place fit for people to live.” Don’t give me any excuses, if you want my love, you have to give me a reason, right?

The costs of living in China is too high. We spend like Americans and earn like Africans. My parents worked hard to send me to university, so I should repay them and take care of them right? Even I become a high-ranking white-collar, would the salary really be that high? My parents are getting old. If they become ill and hospitalised, what can I do about the excessively expensive medical bills? Western countries have universal health care. Especially the job market in China, there is nothing to be praised. Each time I see the over-crowded job fairs, I almost get a heart attack. Dear me! The job fairs are rather like WW2 Omaha Beach (Normandy on D-Day). I am a delicate girl, how can I squeeze through these smelly guys?

As a modern woman, the first task in life is to survive, study and get into university, find a job, save money for a house, and save money for retirement. Which one of these does not require slaving away? Isn’t it tiring? If my fellow schoolgirls did not become dark-skinned grannies after graduating, they found a rich person to marry, and allow their husbands to go out eating, drinking, visiting prostitutes, and gambling, pretending they do not know, why suffer?

Pretty Asian girl.

III. Western boys are all very excellent.

Having said this much, that the environment is good, material things are good, this third point is what I value the most: I simply like Western men. Ever since I was small, I liked watching Western movies, such as Roman Holiday” or “Gone with the Wind,” and I liked watching the Westerners in the movies, their faces are all so sharp and distinctive, especially their charming coloured eyes, their straight pronounced noses, their tight smooth lips. Moreover, the majority of Westerners are tall, have strong and handsome physiques, and always so sexy. Then I look at the Chinese guys around me: Ignoring the small eyes, they have lumpy noses, thick lips, and if their skin is tanned a bit, they look remarkably like Africans. Those who have been educated almost all look malnourished, making me worried whether they can protect me or not. Occasionally, there is a muscular man, but despite having grown a head, they did not grow a brain.

Many college guys are pursuing me, and other guys in society also often ask me out on dates, but there are not many I like. Each of them either look like a soy sprout, or like Ultraman [character from a Japanese TV show], each of them unkempt, and at minimum each of them do not pay attention to their own image. Many of the guys spit in public, I particularly dislike people who do this. Only little children and animals defecate and urinate everywhere, and spitting in public is not much better than defecating and urinating in public, so at most they count only as half-civilised.

The majority of Western men carry themselves elegantly and well, because they received good education from when they were small. In our city there are McDonald’s and KFC restaurants, and I often go there with friends to eat. All the Western men in the restaurants seem to have good upbringing, opening doors for others to enter first. Chinese guys, the moment the door opens, they rush towards the counter, often colliding with people exiting, as if they were the reincarnation of someone who starved to death in their last life. The Westerners1 who enter all stand in line, Chinese men rush up in a crowd, surrounding the counter shouting their orders. as if they haven’t eaten any food in a long time. And without being ashamed, they throw their trash wherever after eating, but those Westerners would fold up the waste paper in their trays, making it convenient to dispose, and what they haven’t finished, they throw go dispose of in the wastebins by themselves. The two are simply are not the same level of people.

Furthermore, some Chinese men lack a sense of independence, only knowing how to revolve around girls, living like a super nanny. I feel they don’t have a self, sticking their thoughts on girls all day. Getting on the bus, they scramble for a seat, then busy themselves trying to give it to a girl, not caring about the elderly or children beside them, that I am embarrassed to sit down. This kind of men I also look down upon, revolving around their girlfriends before marriage, revolving around their wives after marriage, revolving around their bosses at work, and revolving around the kitchen after work. No thoughts, no temper, my god, I would be afraid of the son I have with this man being like his father, a model citizen so obviously cultivated by an authoritarian country.  What girl does not like a man with personality and courage?

Western men were all raised in an environment of independence. They have independent thinking, not like Chinese men, who are parrots.  Take my schoolmates for example. When the government talks about Japan and China’s good bilateral relationships, they like Japan. When the government promotes nationalism, they shout about attacking Japan. Each and every one of them are brainless, played like monkeys by others, yet still thinking themselves to be high and mighty. The whole lot of them a bunch of “pig headed men.”

There are some things I cannot say in real life, so I can only say them online.

Pretty Asian girl on steps.

In summary, I simply want to marry a Westerner, at best an American, but European is not bad either. As for  criteria…I am not very demanding, it is no big deal even if his education is lower than mine, and no specific requirements about his work…isn’t the monthly salary for washing dishes at McDonald’s over a thousand USD? This can still allow him to buy a car and house. If this isn’t possible, I will just find a divorced man and be willing to be a stepmother. Besides, Western children have a strong sense of independence, at least they will not let me always clean up after them and cater to their every whim, right? If even this is not possible, Japanese or Korean men I would also consider, I would even consider marrying a Korean or Japanese. At worst, they will not cook for me.  No matter what, I just want to leave the country and go to the West, if not for freedom then for money.2

I admit I am very worldly, but I don’t consider my thinking to be wrong. I am not hurting other people, I just want to live a better life, whether it is materially or culturally. I watched an American show “Desperate Housewives.” That quiet village, clean streets, green lawns, and elegant, polite neighbours, and I knew, that is the kind of life I want.

This story has actually been on the Chinese internet for some time, maybe a year. It will occasionally reappear and there will be new comments by netizens who have not read the story before. Copies of the original Chinese can be found on Xinhua and Baidu.

Notes:

1 She used the words 老外 [lǎo wài] and 西方男人 [xī fāng nán rén] here interchangeably which literally mean “old foreigner” and “Western men” respectively. I consistently used the word “western”, although “老外 [lǎo wài]” of course would theoretically also include Korean or Japanese. But it is usually applied to Westerners or countries with a similiar political or cultural system.

2 The original Chinese words used were 选票 [xuǎn piào] and 钞票 [chāo piào] which mean “vote” and “banknotes” respectively. They both end in the same character, literally saying “voting slip” and “money slip”.

Comments from Baidu:

Clever, very clever!!! Only one sentence, nothing more to say.

First: With this kind of mindset, even if I was rich I would not want.
Second: This kind of female, is suitable for being a walking corpse [rotten, useless person]
Third: Counting three generations upwards, your ancestors were all peasant farmers. According to your thinking, all of your male ancestors would never be able to get a wife, so please tell me where did you come from?
Fourth: After letting the dogs fuck you ten thousand times, let then every Japanese do you. Go become a comfort woman for the Japanese.

After reading that, I am speechless. But I forced myself to write a reply, for the dignity of Chinese men. I tried hard not to immediately curse you, but in the end I cannot stop myself. You are simply a woman who did not get enough dick in your last life, what damn qualifications do you have for scolding Chinese men, including all the men in your family, and of course your own father. I imagine your dad would be pissed to death after reading this, and even if he did not die, he would become an idiot because your dad is also a Chinese man. You have grown up wasting how much of the country’s resources, and have you made just one day’s contribution to the country after graduating? Instead, you deny/reject your own ancestors, you “white eyed wolf” [someone who bites the hand that feeds her]. Had he known you were like this, your dad should have held back three seconds so he could ejaculate onto the wall instead, to save me from being pissed off today because of you, wasting my time to replying to this post.

Everyone has the right to choose their own life. As a Chinese, her being able to write out all of this is also not an easy thing to do, so it is possible that Chinese men really have let you down. I don’t know if you wrote this post in one go, I think it is not bad, and demonstrates your writing talent. But have a closer look at your essay: Everything you know about what is outside of the country comes from movies and media. I don’t know whether you are still studying or already working, but I want to say that nothing in the real world is absolute. Where there are good people, there will also be bad people; this is a very balanced world. Furthermore, have you done the calculations? How much wealth can you create? Everyone is clear about what they want, especially someone who has received higher education like you. Marriage is not like dating, marriage is even less a joke. Who do you think would look for a recent graduate who, other than being well-educated and pretty (this is what you said, I have never met you), cannot create any value? I say this without implying anything else, only wanting to say that if you want to reach your goal, should you not first consider for a moment where your own worth is?

Having your own dream is a virtue. For human being, he (she) has even more charm. But the form of this kind of dream must have a kind of self-sketched ability, and not something that goes by the book. This dissertation/thesis is a bowl of “hui guo rou” [a Chinese dish of recooked pork].

What a lamentable person! What reasons caused this outcome? This is a problem worth pondering by every Chinese person!

I neither support or am against your thinking. Everyone has the right to choose their own life, just like those in the red-light districts working the night shifts. They themselves are very happy, they do not have to do anything, yet they can get anything. From their perspective, I can understand them. After all, there are people in this world who have self-respect and self-love, and those who wallow in degeneration, and can sell their dignity and soul to chase material comforts, people who live life one day at a time.
Everyone has their way to find happiness, it does not need to be the same.
But I still want to ask you, do you believe in lifelong love? Although I have not found it, I believe in it!

Comments from 6park:

Continue your daydreaming! A foreigner would not give money to you!
He thinks it’s his money. If you want to spend money, earn your own! Haha…

Don’t get upset. Put her abroad for five years, and then let her see whether foreign men or Chinese men are good. She still has this good image about abroad like from the early 90s.

Obviously, this woman has never seen real foreign men.

Support! That’s a girl with a strong character.

Foreign men also drink, gamble and go to prostitutes. Them having money doesn’t mean that you can spend it.

Trash woman.

Pretty Asian girl sitting down bending over.See more views on love and marriage by Chinese women and netizens:

Images: These images are not of the author. I am not sure if the author added the pictures to her original post or if other netizens added them when they reposted her essay. Some of the pictures were stupid so I did not include them here but I include two. One is extra – Fauna.

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  1. I didnt even have to read the whole thing. You are very blind my dear… very blind. I would have to agree with another comment do you think that some american will buy you a car so you dont have to ride the bus? Do you really think we are richer than Chinese? Do you really think that you make african wages and live an american life??? Even in America and Canada…… we make good wages but we have to pay just as much for fucking tax……. we are poor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. Being foreigner and agreed with the write but also belived that now all people are same. She need to find either someone perfect or she need to make someone like she want which is not difficult. As far as cross culture marriage is concer, it is nt easy but also not impossible.

    Apart of everything i appriciate that there are people who knows the social problems like; prostitution, xiao laopo or ai ren/qing ren, honesty, spitting, spening like kings but earning like beggers. I believe tht these problems are because of money, everyone is is focusing on money rather than moral, cultural & ethical values.

  3. this land is across the wall so expect an unexpected :)
    elements of life are completely different here. Not all things here are bad or good but we project according to experiences and knowledge.

    1. No money no honey
    2. No car no marriage
    3. LV, GUCCI bags to make girl friend
    4. If you are successfull to get married than CK baby nappies. This nation is crazy of brands.
    5. Strongly agreed with writer “Earn like africans but spend like americans”.
    6. Lost in quick sands pit.
    7. God Bless this nation but uh! the new generation doesnt know anything about it.

  4. If you yellow look’n chinks think Africa is so poor why are you rushing in cargo plane loads? FACTS: On the average production wages are much lower in your 1.4bn china land than out Mother Africa

  5. Poor pathetic girl. I am not China born, if she met a FBC (Foreign Born Chinese) like me, her whole attitude would do a 360 change towards Chinese men.

  6. ALL WOMEN in the world are likely to complain men in their own countries. I have heard German girls complain abt German men are ugly, English girls complain English men are smelly and so on.

    This girls is obviously targeting foreign born Chinese men such as those fr Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore and even the US(ABC).

    That Professor’s reaction has been exaggerated by some white men who are lacking of confidence themselves. they try to degrade local Chinese men by expanding their negative side. Although Chinese women think that Western men are ugly in general, apparently she knows nothing abt the dirty side of them. If she has the chance to go to the West, she’ll probably be SHOCKED by seeing the hopeless Western men drinking beer in the bar all day long doing nothing constructive to the world, despite that 99.99% of Chinese girls are anti-foreign men in their hearts and prefer to stick with their own type.

    • why are u using an english name? ur likely a chinese person..

      • I was thinking the same thing….james is a fraud. He should just be proud of who he is. Every country out there has their ups & downs. Not every westerner is evil. Stop trying to make it seem as though a guy from the west that is with a Chinese girl has something wrong with them. If a Chinese girl likes a guy with blue eyes, it doesn’t mean she is betraying her country…..grow up

        • Whacko (aka BBC & MooMooRanch)

          No, it means shes betraying her RACE… a far more dangerous thing. At a time when the chinese population is facing a female shortage, the problem is being made infinitely worse by (mostly) white men coming to the Far East and stealing them. It is unfortunate the authorities are so lax in this area.

          • You cant lose what you haven’t got. Nobody is stealing anything…. How do the police keep the evil westerners from marrying the Chinese women? Hmmmm Maybe a better question is… how do Chinese males become more appealing to Chinese females? REALLY….the authorities? What ever happened to allowing a person to chose their own path?

  7. I’m a Chinese teen who grew up in Australia and i kind of know what you mean when it comes to being brainless in the face of nationalism and being arrogant at times, some of the only look out for themselves and others last, my dad never stops talking about it. But not all Chinese men are like that, for someone who hasn’t lived in western society i can tell you that although you may find those western men being tall built and perfectly chiseled they are not necessarily the brightest men out there and some of them are insensitive pigs who can’t keep their head out of their pants. In saying this there are all types of people regardless of what country you come from, i bet there are people in western society that care more about their career and money than their partner.
    Your description of western society is only based on the media, in fact a lot of those things aren’t what they seem. But western society are more considerate and open minded, also on the point of your perception of all Chinese men. Usually asians that are brought up in western society generally pick social values from the society they grew up in. A Chinese that is born in the US would certainly have different values from a Chinese that is brought up in China, so a Chinese man would most likely have the values of your “dream” western man.

  8. Hi,
    I’m Western and I think that you’re wrong in your attitude.
    You might not be proper Chinese men for you as you say,
    but you also ask for the impossible.
    Don’t think that Westerns are a lot more open-minded.
    You ask for “Materialism” and “Spiritualism” together!

    That is impossible to combine!
    You will have to choose between both, either you want the silly materialism, which obviously will get on your nerves one day, or the spiritualism, which could give you a decent life, with less money.
    Being a cheerleader and a very much fan of materialism, shows that you’re still not settled down with what you want.
    Try to compromise if you want to enjoy life, that’s my advice.

    Additionally, be a bit more modest. Many people could say the same of themselves and that they are multi-talented.

  9. Jeez, one word to descibe her basically – “Banana” yellow on outside white on the inside.

    She doesn’t realise how lucky she is to be born in a country with her own people. I’m Chinese born in the UK and since my school days i have had nothing but racist abuse and bullying. After school the country takes big chunks of my hard earned money on alot of unnecessary taxes, spend it on wars and handouts to lazy people who just collect it from the post office as beer money. As for the justice system, the victim gets punished for it. Dont get me wrong, there are a small amount of people here that are really helpful and nice, but the majority are just a waste of time and space.

    Seriously, if i could, i would be only too glad to trade places with her.

    [/rant]

    • Norm: I am English but spend much time in China, most of the time I spend in England.
      From my own experience there is no race hostility towards the Chinese here in England. WE do have some racial bias but mostly against other races and not the Chinese. I say this mainly because the Chinese coming here learn the English language, they are good workers and often good business people, they are clean and tidy and integrate with the comunity. I suppose you have suffered some ‘banter’ from fellow school kids, that of course is a world wide trend amonst young people. As for taxes we all have to pay them, If you wish to use the club then pay the fees!

  10. i can’t blame this girl.

  11. LOL! She thinks Westerners don’t cheat? This girl is in for a rude awakening. There are plenty of men in the West who fit the description that she doesn’t seem to like about Chinese men.

    • I have a feeling this girl has never been to America or Europe, this notion of elegance is quite odd lol, gone with the wind is a movie sweetie, when i watch spiderman i dont look for a guy swinging from buildings while i walk down 5th avenue LOL.

  12. btw what do you have against migrant workers and Africans?, you accuse the rich of not earning their positions? did you? did your parents not pay for your schooling or tutoring or w/e? and are the poor migrant workers are poor because they want to be poor? they travel to a strange place to look for a job and feed their families, their character is far more noble than what can be said for yours. You generalize against everyone, i dont think all chinese girls are selfish bitches just cause i know you do i?

  13. from nowhere, i’m ‘bump’ into this

    let me tell you this.
    i stay in aus for some time,

    even i have own citizenship, mansion, exotic car.
    i won’t choose you as my wife,
    cause you know what?

    similiar to vampire that suck you dry
    and you’re saying western culture good?
    you’re totally in your own world,
    and you’re telling me you’re graduate from ivy league.
    should i call this a failure graduate?

    how about this? go marry a white skin,
    do whatever you like, and don’t come back saying that
    ” oh gosh, I married the wrong guy “

  14. LMFAO so this girl just want to get married into the western world. You thikn that earning 1000US a month is a lot right? But thats almost sleeping in a dump here. And western men don’t give you their money, unlike chinese. Over here, we share the price of everything.

  15. interesting.
    you seek a craving for more.
    something to satisfy your thirst.
    im not talking about sex or men.
    of course u have a desire to find a better man than any you have encountered so far, and i hope you find him, but theres more to it than that.
    your soul hungers for something deeper.
    There is an answer to your longing, as a christian, i sincerely hope you find that satisfaction in Christ.

  16. wow, if this is real, this gal’s got quite a fantasy about America. reality will be knocking on her door soon … see this post:

    http://www.chinasmack.com/2009/pictures/zhang-ziyi-naked-on-beach-2009-sexy-photos-gate.html#comment-23197

  17. cool^^ just like what’s in my mind though im not so excellent as you are~

  18. I’m an American, from the South (we are gentleman), and reading this post I was not too surprised.

    Shame on the Chinese people for “disowning” this girl. She is Chinese, too, she likes foreign things and you just insult her for that, that is typical Chinese. She made her arguments and they are very clear.

    Also I noticed some Chinese people think Westerners are dirty and rude. I’d like to say, those are MOSTLY the Westerners LIVING in China. They come to China because they are failures in life, and they escape the Western world because they have no hope of living there. They are “lower quality”

    Other Westerners come to China to study, or do buisiness. They are much better. this is the kind of Westerner that this girl should find.

  19. Marry a Canadian!

  20. let some western dude marry this bitch…he’ll cheat on her anyway because she’s stupid. Western men that want to marry or get involved with Chinese woman know better then to get involved with Shanghai Girls, the majority are selfish, idiotic and boring. What man wants a woman that sits around all day doing nothing but sleeping, reading fashion magazines and collecting handbags? I wouldn’t waste a dime on this broad, she has no class and no real understanding of western culture.

  21. That’s what happens when you take your knowledge from TV.
    But consider one thing: How much respect for you and your ideas will a Western man have if you don’t earn any money on your own ? If you have kids then you will be busy enough not to worry too much about your “luxury life”. :-) If not, then you are pretty much just his mistress. I myself, and I am from a rich European country, could not imagine marrying a Chinese girl who is lazy and arrogant as you, don’t imagine there aren’t any pretty girls in Europe. ;-) If however, and I don’t have a Chinese girlfriend, I would meet a nice, kind, charming, hardworking Chinese girl with a brain I would certainly like to date her. Nothing comes for free in life, and life in Europe certainly isn’t as easy as you think… someone who earns 2’000 US Dollar in my country is poor, because life is expensive here… don’t forget that.

  22. “… At worst, they will not cook for me.”

    Sorry but this bitch is gotta cook.

  23. As a “Western” man, I find this girl a little repulsive.

    The type of Western man she wishes to attract with this bizarre post, would be nearly identical to the Chinese man she has come to find unappealing. What a silly child. I personally am athletic, have those favored colored eyes, and an IQ in excess of 140. I would never settle for such a greedy little person, who despite her distaste for the Chinese ways, seems to believe in them. “I want a handsome strong man, who’s rich and attractive, who makes lots of money, and can buy me anything I want. Who can protect me forever. That’s what I want.”. Yeah, you and everyone else little girl. Go back to your cheer leading squad, nobody’s impressed.

  24. I cant even finish this article,it actually makes me sick while reading it…….someone needs to get her feet back to the ground……besides,accordding to the pictures she shows,she’s not as exellent as she thinks she is.She looks more like the kind of girls foreigners can pick from any bar then use them then just throw away easily………..shame shame shame ….

  25. I’m looking for a chinese girl like this, but not this one. She aint pretty enough.

    I could be a good catch too. I have a big bath, 4 cars, 1 scooter, 1 motorbike and i drink expensive wines and liquor.

    My house has views of the sunset, and my dog won’t let anyone into the house without my say so.

  26. Welcome to China, where you are either a racist in disguise, or jealous. One or the other and many times BOTH.

    disgrace to your country? what year do you live in 1949? Or wait, is it still the Cultural Revolution for you people?

    Here’s a pure and simple FACT, you can check it anytime but im sure your country will block the site to “save face”:
    Thousands of people ALL across the world wait in lines to come to the United States, and mostly ALL of them share the same story that their country or government, or living conditions are PISS POOR. Especially Chinese stories.

  27. I am an African Guy who would like to plug my dripping, hefty John Thomas into this china chic. She will love it to death and forget completely junior sized western men or peanut sized china man.
    hehehehe y-y-y-yo-o-o-u-u-u know what I mean?

  28. This girl really is the modesty in person.
    I really can’t figure out how did she got in a ‘prestigious university’ with her mentality. She just has her own idealized vision of the western world and of the western man. Her knowledge just come from movies and ‘desperate housewifes’.
    I guess this is what ignorance can produce

  29. I tell you the reason why china men behave like that..and not just china men..china people in general..spitting in the public..has no public manners nor care about their self image how they dress or behave..bad hygienes…ugly teeth and smelly breath. This is ALL THE CHINA GOVERNMENT Fault! Remember how the china government used to be against people getting education saying book gives you ideas and educations which will make you capable of independent thinking.. the chinese government don’t want that..the government wants their people stupid and ignorant so easy to control..like communist. sad but it’s true.
    Now it is the job of the chinese government toeducate their citizens public manners and personal image, and good hygiene.

    The author she is a very pretty girl and educated..she should go find herself an educated man who has money and would treat her right. not necessarily a foreigner. A very handsome chinese man will do.

    • Com’on there are very very few handsome Chinese men in this world

      • There are plenty of handsome chinese men in Hong kong and Tawian. Who are 6ft tall and more than 190lb with muscular body like swimmers. Nice skin with nice facial features and big brown eyes. My brother is one of them…and he is educated a lawyer. Who will open doors for women and old people..offer seats to them on the train. Pays for dinner for his girl in the restaurants and drive her home.
        Asian men are also less likely to be overweight like the westerners.
        Asian men usually have a head full of hair even in their forties. My brother is 38 and he looks like 25 yrs old.

    • You are generalising too much as she did. Not all chinese man are uneducated farmers, as not all foreiners aren’t all good looking gentleman. Those people who spit in public and behave in our eyes as uneducated people, just had a different education as ours! People in different countries have different behaviour, mentality and culture. Now, you take for granted that only the western behaviour is the ‘right’ one; the younger generation in China is getting conformed to the western behaviour, but you can’t ask those who have lived all their lives in a certain way to adapt themselves now.

      • china has a long way to go to educate their citizens about good personal hygiene and public manner. It is well known fact that when the china people visit Hong Kong, the china tourists spit, litter, and their children pee on the streets. It is on the Hong kong news.

        Only few cities in China are rich. The rest of China are poor. The chinese government don’t do enough to take care of their people. Creating a better medical, education opportunities, and housing for their people.

  30. Wow. As a British Chinese girl, I have to say something here. Being a foreigner in a Western country is difficult and I’ve been living in London since I was a young child. As time goes on, your curiosities and excitement of being in a foreign land will die down and you’ll realise just how much discrimination and racism still secretly exist. You are a yellow person in a white community. True, some places are very multicultered but life is NEVER like “Desperate Housewives”.

    You may want to marry an independent, handsome white man with a good job. Someone well sought after like that…you don’t think he’d go for a white woman first? I’m sure many white women would want him..he has no reason to consider someone who have just moved abroad. Why should he? What would you two have in common? This is marriage, not making a friend. Even making a good friend..let’s face it, would be difficult.

    In all my 14 years of living in England, I have never seen a Chinese woman with a RESPECTABLE white man. It is degrading and embarassing to watch.

    Also, have you thought about the cultural differences? It’ll be a constant struggle for acceptance and understanding..moreover, this man won’t be able to REALLY understand you..what it’s like living in China, being a foreigner in a white country..they are not as considerate as you may think. In fact, white men can be quite shallow and immature at times. Maybe you’d want a much older man? I don’t know. But, personally, it’s embarassing and I would not fancy a middle aged or old man. There are enough embarassing old white man and young chinese girl couples as it is.

    A happy couple must “click” and have a special connection, it will be difficult for you, being a woman having grown up in China…they can educate themselves on Chinese culture all they want and you can educate yourself on Western culture..but that is effort and a struggle..there is still a lack of understanding because you do not share similar childhood memories and ideals. In fact, a white guy, having read your desires on this thread would probably feel arrogant or feel sorry for you.

    I hope you find what you are looking for..
    But moving abroad to marry a Westerner is probably the worst idea I’ve ever heard. It’ll bring more pain and struggle than it’s worth. Why not marry a Chinese man and move abroad with him? Like what my father did. If you’re so outstanding then you shouldn’t have any problems then should you?

    • I agree with the input above.

    • You sound like an ugly girl complaining about not getting a good man. I love beautiful girls regardless of race.

      “In all my 14 years of living in England, I have never seen a Chinese woman with a RESPECTABLE white man. It is degrading and embarassing to watch.”
      ^
      You’re doing it wrong then.

      “Why not marry a Chinese man and move abroad with him?”
      ^
      Did you not read the post? She doesn’t like how they act.

      “Desperate Housewives”
      ^She was talking about how clean and nice the neighborhood looked like not the drama, moron . And yes almost all neighborhoods (besides “hoods”) look this clean and wonderful in America.

  31. Lol a thousand dollars from mcdonald? way to contradict urself about being rich. But I gotta say, you got quite a body/face for AV. Follow Evelyn Lin’s footsteps and you’ll be rich in no time ^^

  32. Definitely this girl knows little about Chinese and American.

    But I agree with what she value. I likes people who is highly developed physically and mentally too.

    • There are lots of Chinese people that are developed well like that. She should know about China. China is the emerging great super power. It already is a super power as far as am concerned. There are plenty of millionaires in China and men with intellect such as businessmen, engineers, scientists and other similar people that are generally looked up to in society. Wake up people, China owns the U.S economically. This girl may not be lucky enough to meet successful men. Just like in the west, how often do women meet a man that is a millionaire. But Chinese men are strong. China has become great because of the government and its people.

      • 50 cents has been deposited into your account. Please check to make sure.

        “China owns the U.S economically.”

        China owns a small % of America’s debt.

      • Yes, American owe you trillions….and we will pay you back with the worthless printed papers. You cant even use them to wipe your ass!!!

  33. As much i agree with alot of the things you have written, you are somewhat missing the point about western life. You really are not being realistic about western life. You are relying on glamourised tv shows and films. Not to mention, do you really want to live in a western world plagued with terrorism? Do you know what is like to fear for your life?
    Furthermore, do you know how difficult it is to actually gain living status in a western country? If you do meet the one, it will take a few years of planning before you qualify to apply for citizenship.
    As much as i agree with what you say about chinese men, don’t write all of them of. There are some nice ones, i just think you judge them before you even know them. As for western guys, their brains are generally in their trouser department.
    I know many girls like you, with your thoughts and ideals etc.. None are happy. One has made it to the west but hates her life and husband and misses Shanghai.
    The grass isn’t always greener!

    Wish you luck :)

  34. you’re a disgrace for being a chinese. why not go for a plastic surgery to change your features into shard and high nose, put on fake blue contact lens and dye your hair blonde? bitch.

    i guess you might think you are born in the wrong body and from the wrong parents ya? felt so pity for your parents to have such a shameful daughter who have such childish sets of thinking and materialistic mindset. such a disgrace to the chinese nation.

    Me, myself is not from China, i am from Singapore, as you know Singapore is a multi national countries, i have alot of westerner friends and grow up taking english as our 1st language.

    but even if i grow up in such environment, i don;t “worship” the foriegner, they are still human being like us…they are nth special, is only our skin colour are different. maybe you’re right it’s the upbringing that are different but bear in mind, not everyone are born in a rich or average family..

    i don’t think you understand what love is, u are pathetic.

    • MooMooRanch (aka BBC & Whacko)

      We need more girls like you, total respect!

    • Well said! you sound like an educated intelligent girl. Main land Chineses in general, are still having low self esteem and workship westerners mentallity 崇 洋。 This is why China will never be able to surpass USA to become economic super power. After all, if you think other race is better than yours, you have then already surrendered before starting the competition.

  35. LOL you shouldn’t be talking you stupid racist bitch. More like the men in China don’t want a dumb ugly whore like yourself when they can do better. You’re just another fuck toy for the pigs.

  36. This is a woman who has obviously never been abroad and her impression of the western world is formed entirely from watching television shows like Desperate Housewives and Sex and the City. She is naive enough to think that no one in the States visits prostitutes, gambles or cheat on their gfs. Not only that but she expects a western guy to buy her a huge mansion with a large living room while she sits on her butt at home everyday drinking vintage wine with her friends when he slaves away at work? In this economy? HAH! you’re lucky if you’re able to find a man who actually OWNS his own home now that unemployment and foreclosures are at an all time high! And you think all western men are gentlemen who will treat you like the princess you think you are? Just listen to the Mel Gibson tapes saga or take a good look at Charlie Sheen when he spent Christmas in an Aspen jail. Go back to watching Friends on DVD and daydream that you can find a man like Joey, you naive little girl.

  37. The grass of always greener on the other side.

    Believe me, theres nothing better about western culture. Though we base ourselves on fine ideals (democracy, the rights of the individual), society in places America and the UK has become trashy and concerned about petty matters. Common people have become uninterested in anything but themselves, are lazy, materialistic and are actually often pretty stupid.

    The worst part of this is that society glorifies such traits.
    Its owed in large part to the spread of liberal attitudes. Though these attitudes themselves are virtuous, their execution is very flawed, and has lead to a decayed social state.

    Chinese culture is based on much higher values. Though I disapprove of the actions of Chinas government (I believe the rights of the individual are paramount), their (or rather, your) culture is far superior.
    Dont turn your back to it.

    • Girl, we really dont care. Live the life you want to live. If you want to be with a western boy. So be it. I am sure most of us, do not give a f..k about your complexity in chinese men, your financial situation, your unhappiness and so on. WE DO NOT CARE. And you are right, there is nothing really wrong about your thinking. Although its just too materialistic. But hey, they are a lot of unhappy people such as yourself and fail to see the real meaning of life. But my point is do what you want. I am sure most men even western men would grow tired of you but some we be blinded by you. Who knows. Anyway good luck in whatever you are searching for. By the way I am a Westerner, a white american lao wai as you say.

  38. well, In my IMO. You probably gorgeous, but for us rich young man, you re like an assets which will degrade each years gradually, your beauty will worn out in time, plus you re not intellectual (you said you re intellectual? don’t make me laugh little girl, you know nothing about how to survive.) and you said that you want to chit chat with your friends and about all those saloon stuff? well, to be true, every rich man want wife that can at least manage their money flow, good if they can help supervising the business so we can expand our “Kingdom”. that’s why probably you wonder why rich man marry not too beautiful girl. cuz they know how to do their job as wife, they can help us manage, back us up when we need them, and most important, they can give us inspiration and love. which you will never be able to give us.

    sincerely,
    Ferdinnan

  39. Well this girl can immigrate to any western country and marry any white guy, having her depart from the Chinese gene pool is no big loss. I’m a 2nd generation Chinese guy born and living in Canada, my parents come from Manchuria so they knew REAL poverty, not like those spoiled southern Shanghai bitches.

    There are plenty of white guys that are just as she describes but there are also poor ones, university guys with a a Liberal Arts degree and no direction, fat ones, unkempt ones. In contrast, asian-canadian guys try hard to get their engineering degrees from the best local university and do not have the self-important arrogance some white guys have.

    I don’t hate her, and I’ve been to China so I agree with some of her points, but she’s just some girl whose knowledge of the west is formed by tv.

  40. This girl has never been to a western CITY. No western city I have visited can compare with Shanghai, Tokyo or Seoul (I haven’t visited New York City yet though), except maybe VEGAS! ;)

  41. MooMooRanch (aka BBC & Whacko)

    Well obviously the girl has a lot of issues, and is misinformed a lot about Western life and men. I was born and have lived in the west all my life, and I can honestly say for every decent looking man there are 3 ugly ones – but where in China you have flat faced man, you have real ogres in the west. Then there are the drug addicts, alcoholics, wife beaters, psychos etc…

    I think this is more to do with women in general in modern society – feeling more empowered, they feel that their current situation isn’t good enough for them. I know lots of western (white) women who are pretty stupid (left school at 16, no qualifications etc), can’t speak English properly (the only one she has learnt), not even with model looks, yet expects the moon on a stick.

    She’ll get her white man – there’s no shortage of them wanting a subservient oriental woman – but the outcome won’t be what she expected. She’ll try again and again (there are plenty of women like this in America), eventually she’ll settle with a sweaty bald fatty who is into various perversions.

    Meanwhile chinese man in America living across the street is lording it up with promotions, a new 3 storey house and a nice white wife with kids. Baldy meanwhile is infertile and bankrupt.

  42. There are so many bad things about the reality of the west and the men from it. Also there are many great things. the same is also true of the Chinese. I know alot of Chinese Guys in Vancouver and Beijing and REALLY respect them. None have the qualities mentioned above.
    I would advise this young lady to go for Swiss German or English. but not American. She will find more of the good qualities she seeks with them.
    And desperate house wives represents the richer people of the US so definitely not the life of someone earning under 250,000 $ per year.

    Chinese guys dont feel too bad. A ton of nice european girls are waking p to your better qualities.

  43. Oh my god -_- this post really pissed me off! It has to be one of the most ignorant things I’ve ever read. She’s basing her entire opinion of the west on movies! Is she really so stupid or just too self absorbed to realize that Hollywood sugarcoats EVERYTHING?!?

    As an Asian-american, born in Shanghai and having lived most of my live in the US I can honestly say that not everywhere in the west is clean (some streets in NY are just as disgusting as the back alleys of Shanghai) and you’re just as likely if not more likely to encounter an asshole as you would a genuinely nice person. In the west, she is what would commonly be known as a “gold digger” and the only men who would ever go near a gold digger are either those with extremely low self esteem, those who just want to fool around with an Asian chick so they can cross it off their bucket lists, or old bastards who are looking to keep a cute little Asian mistress. But of course this girl is too shallow to care right? As long as she gets to live in her made up “fantasy land”.

    I admit that some of the things she says, mostly about corrupt officials in China are true but honestly that’s just because it’s the bad ones who shout the loudest. All the corruption gets broadcast on the news making the stories of all the good hardworking people seem small. If this arrogant fool would just get off her high horse, open her eyes and actually looked at the people around her instead of looking down on them maybe she might find true love one day, otherwise she’s screwed.

    Sorry I ranted so much it just really bugs me how the Chinese of my generation have placed the west up on a pedestal. I’ve known so many young people who work so hard and put their families through hell just so they can come study in America only to realize when they get here that what they considered to be excellent English is barely sub par, Chinese currency when translated to USD barely covers their living expenses, and just because you have an American degree doesn’t mean you’ll automatically get a 6 figure salary! They’ve completely thrown away what could have been a perfectly adequate life back home so they can wait tables part time to get by and ultimately recieve a piece of paper that had English on it instead of Chinese.

    • A very well written and well presented answer! But If her thoughts are genuine then she feels what she would feel that what she has written is correct. I feel also that you can’t ‘generalise’ quite so much. I have met people in China who have made a delightful life for themselves, and I have met some where their lot has been ‘bloody awful!’ ‘Life is a self styled even mostly. She is trying the ‘self style’ but perhaps with misguided thoughts.

    • A very well written and well presented answer! But If her thoughts are genuine then she feels what she would feel that what she has written is correct. I feel also that you can’t ‘generalise’ quite so much. I have met people in China who have made a delightful life for themselves, and I have met some where their lot has been ‘bloody awful!’ ‘Life is a self styled event mostly. She is trying the ‘self style’ but perhaps with misguided thoughts.

    • I agree with a lot of what you’ve written. However, give the girl some credit; she may be naive to the nth degree about life in the West (and she really should know that movies and TV aren’t necessarily representative of the truth), BUT she has some great qualities, which, if she gets her head on straight could help her in life. I am talking mainly about her writing ability and her passion for meaning and purpose. I hate to see people’s dreams dashed by less visionary minds. In other words, Fauna could use some steering, but don’t snuff her spirit!

  44. LOLL!!!
    i guess i can’t hate.. we all live in our own dreams.
    i just have to say, girl, u ain’t even that hot!!!

  45. I was both impressed and amused by Fauna’s Rant, which is what I am dubbing it forthwith. I felt her heartache and her sincerity, even if it comes off as a bit melodramatic. She really is a good writer and could make a living at it. Her English is very good, especially for a non-native speaker. (I could point out some small problems, but that’s not what I want to talk about.) She has composed an excellent essay, regardless of it’s perspective or verity. As an expression of her opinion, it shines with wit, passion, desperation, and angst. More than one person drew attention to Fauna’s obvious naive perspective of the West, formed nearly exclusively from the tiny and biased window of the media, especially TV and movies. It’s true; Fauna would find that her image of the West is not accurate. Certainly, there are places and people who fit her ideal, but there are terrible contrasts, as well. I appreciate her honesty; most Asian women who have money as a goal will lie that they love their Western man. I believe Fauna, that even if she desires money, she equally desires love and purpose in life. She has described both aspects openly. I would counsel fauna to the effect that, while a good standard of living and a happy marriage, etc., are not bad in themselves, there is a higher purpose for living, which, of course, few ever attain to, whether they are poor or rich, although the poor are more likely to find it. Spiritual fulfillment satisfies where nothing else can.

    • You realize of course Fauna translates these, she doesn’t write these herself. It was not Fauna’s view, it is someone else’s on the Chinese internet.

    • You realize Fauna does not write these, she only translates these, right?
      She picks up the stories from the popular internet forums in China and translates them into English so others can read them.

  46. Actually some of her saying is true ! I said some not all of them !

    People changing here there everywhere …..

    Couple decades ago we even couldn’t dream about life which is we are pursuing and enjoying now but there is still some change in our society.

    Not perfect we know , but after 10 years girls like her will be lesser than now , cuzz we know that Chinese people also changing in to good way .

    So be patient wait , we will be one of the glorious country in da world one day .

  47. I believe this girl has every right to look for a better life for herself, however she does have a tendency to idealize western society, most of which was built on plundering other parts of the world and genocide.

    And the people in the US, I’ve been told by my friend who went there on a tennis scholarship are quite superficial. Naturally, you can find friends there, it’s a highly cosmopolitan environment, but not everyone will be as friendly.

    Also, due to new legislation in the US, it’s very much a police state, so that has to be taken into account as well.

    Europe seems to be a better alternative, as the environment is not as toxic and the people are more cultured (and less fat haha)

  48. May ALLAH SHOWER BLESS ON YOU AND MAY SHOW YOU THE RIGHT PATH IN THIS WORL AND FOR THE NEXT WORLD . DEAR KEEP IN MIND THAT HOW LONG TIME FOR YOU LIVE ? YOU MUST DAED SOON OR LATER. SAME AS THOSE PEOPLE WHICH ARE LEFT THIS WORLD .

  49. OMG…your opinion on foreign men is based on TV and movies? You need to get out of the country and see them for yourself. Not everything’s like the movies. And btw, girls like you are the reason why asian girls have a bad reputation. I can’t believe you want to marry someone just because they’re white. That’s just as sick as any white guy with an asian fetish.

  50. This lady is very intelligent, and fiercely independent. When she meets a man who
    has those qualities, she will fall in love. Since
    these qualities are of great importance to her,
    her love will be deep and lasting, so powerful
    is the realization of finding what one values in
    another, and experiences daily in a physical union
    that she will endure poverty and hardship to keep
    that love.

    She will have learned that the love is a happiness
    she cannot live without. She will be disgusted
    that her living conditions are much less than she
    wished, but she will not leave: the pain of separation is far worse.
    Her life will be determined, for better or worse
    if she finds this man or not, and if she is capable
    of this love, and if she recognises happiness when
    it is given to her, else she will recognise it too
    late.

    Either way, she will learn that love is more powerful than almost any other event in ones
    life. One hopes for love, lives for it, even in
    misery, or regrets not accepting it.

    Her understanding of living in the west is hopelessly idealistic, as is her view of
    western men. She should read statistics
    on poverty and violence, and the social
    commentaries regarding these statistics.
    If she visits the west she will be disgusted
    at the poverty and violence.
    I am white, English, and have lived in N.america
    all my life. I wish her luck.
    Ken S Vancouver Canada

    • Whacko (aka BBC & MooMooRanch)

      What the fuck are you on about? Every sentence is littered with “love”, yet this girl is looking for materialism and nothing more.

      Weirdo!

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