China’s Richest Man & Gome Founder Arrested

Huang GuangyuOne of the big news this week that many Chinese are talking about on China’s BBS forums is Huang Guangyu (黄光裕) being arrested and investigated for manipulating the stock market. He is the founder and boss of China’s number one electrical appliances retailer, Gome (国美电器), which has over 500 stores throughout China.

He is also one of China’s richest men. In fact, in 2008 he was the #1 richest man with about 43 billion RMB (or ~6.3 billion USD).

A short English description of Huang’s history from BusinessWeek:

Huang’s is a typical rags-to-riches China tale. He and his brother began hawking radios and other electrical components from a roadside stall after he moved to Beijing as a teenager. He eventually built his business into the country’s largest retail chain, which he listed in Hong Kong in 2004. He is the company’s largest shareholder with 34%. Last October, Gome became the first Chinese retailer to team up with Dell to sell the U.S. company’s computers in its stores.

A Gome electrical appliance store in China.

Comments on Tianya (1 & 2):

The key problem/question—who to bribe?

Now I understand why wealthy people want to emigrant, if I was a wealthy person, I would also want to emigrate abroad to be a first-class citizen~! [x8]

How many businessmen in China are actually pure and innocent? Are there 10%?

If you do not break the law, you cannot earn any money, and will spend the rest of your life eating porridge. If you want to eat fish, then you can only go under the laws and regulations, and after you’re finished earning you enter prison. What can you do! With the present domestic situation, I simply do not believe those wealthy people are all clean. The clean ones absolutely have no money!

Real or fake? This would be a big deal, the Suning boss would be laughing, haha. [Suning is another home appliances and electronics retailer.]

Actually, this is the perfect example of “fame portends trouble for men just as fattening does for pigs!”
With the current financial crisis, arresting one means getting a bunch of money! [This means that arresting a rich person allows the government to get some more money from them].

Government and business have already become a cancer to Chinese society.

The Hurun Institute [that compiles the yearly list of China's richest people] has already become a pig-slaughtering house, whoever is fat is whoever gets killed.
Zhou Zhengyi [a rich Shanghainese businessman] is second.

What? If they go bankrupt, who do I go to for after-sales service for my electric water heater!

The effect on everyone’s electronics retail will be pretty big.
[Even] China’s richest [can be arrested].
My god!

The country lacks money~~~[so it will "tax" this rich person]

China’s businessmen and wealthy people, which of them can survive being investigated?

I am very afraid that if something happens, appliance prices will increase in the future!

Everything is not as simple as it appears on the surface to us~~~

Ha! The emperor has slaughtered a pig for the upcoming Lunar New Year!

The gap between rich and poor is too serious, find someone who is especially out of line, drag him out, and chop him…
Are you all satisfied now, and will stop complaining?

No matter what, I still await a good result for Huang Guangyu. Besides, he is also human, and coming this far was not easy.

Suddenly remembered the images of Phoenix Television interviewing Lai Changxing [another rich Chinese businessman], remembered Lai Changxing having said that if you just properly investigate China’s company businessmen, who of them would not have a problem? China’s current state is just like this. Or perhaps this is really China’s state!

Yet another part of the 4 trillion [China's economic stimulus plan] has been taken care of!
Eagerly awaiting the next one!

With regards to the ordinary common people, Gome, Suning, none must collapse.
Otherwise one company will become a monopoly and the ordinary common people will lose.

It is said the most important reason Huang Guangyu was investigated is because he is currently transferring large amounts of wealth to America.

“It is said” should not be said so easily…the reason for this investigation was because of participating in his brother’s company “ST金泰” share manipulation…as Huang Guangyu, it is not easy to become an expert businessman…not even graduating from junior high but coming out and leading a nomadic lifestyle. (even though later he went to a famous university for a refresher course).

Legends are not all clean…but you are still my idol!!

It looks like no matter how good you run a business, no matter how many employment and society’s problems you have resolved, you are still working for the government.

Who is the current world’s most lovable people? Soldiers? Peasants? Workers? Public servants?
No, it is entrepreneurs! They created wealth for society, they live within the crevices of an unsound system, surviving like mice, and truly not easy. Yet another sacrifice!
I am not involved in entrepreneurship, but I understand entrepreneurs.

Out of 10 successful business men, 9 of them have sides that cannot be exposed under the sun, and Huang Guangyu is the same.
The problem is: Although the reason for arresting him is definitely appropriate, have we considered that these truths long ago existed, so why make the arrest now? Something to think about…

Every one of China’s dynasties, once their finances are in deficit, have two simple solutions: First find the ordinary common people and ask them for money. If the ordinary common people are so poor that you can no longer scrape anything from them, then you find the rich merchants and big customers and ask for money and raid their homes.

Brother Hu [China President Hu Jintao] said money is tight right now, so Little Huang [Gome's Huang Guangyu] must quickly share some.

How come this bastard not change nationalities earlier? Then they could not arrest him even if they wanted to.
Learn from the movie circle’s Gong Li [who recently emigrated to Singapore], how wonderful!
Having money means nothing. The big fat pig is still the one who gets slaughtered.

I am certain it is not [just] a stock issue.
This bullshit is too common on China’s stock market.

This kind of wealthy merchant celebrity, one look and it is obvious there is an unfair distribution of benefits and he will be “handled”…
So no matter how rich the merchant is, he is still a businessman, and the government is the government…
So those with money, it is time to flee, who knows if you are next…

These bastard media, Huang Guangyu was arrested at the beginning of the month. The media knew this, and I do not know what shit the Huang family used to seal the mouth of the media, but they just would not report it! A few days ago, Baidu also censored news like this, even snapshots [cache?] were not viewable.

I like Huang Guangyu, because he is one of the few real “grassroots” rich and powerful people. Even though he is like a wolf, this is a personality one must have in this half capitalist, half socialist society.
If they want to investigate, there is not a single rich and powerful person who can bear being investigated…in China’s rich and powerful circles, he is still a very important symbol [as someone who became rich by himself]…otherwise all that would be left of China’s rich and powerful circles would be crown princes [people who did not become rich by themselves].

Actually, I rather admire him, it is not easy to mess around to this degree.

I also want to be investigated.
Only thing is I cannot get on the list [of rich people].
My life is too dull.

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  1. I don’t think you break the law to become rich, I think you break the law after you get rich.

    Too bad that corruption is everywhere. Business and Government. Hopefully this isn’t a trend.

  2. I changed my MSN tag to:

    Is there a Rich or Powerful man in China that has NOT / will NOT be arrested?

  3. There’s 24 billionaires take your pick.

  4. Luke,
    Good point. But about the second part – Business?Government?Trend? The fusion of business and government is the status quo in both China and the U.S. (where it has been for thirty years), albeit the two still have some differences (such as in the U.S. we know how it’s done – through the education of young politicians in incompetence and lobbying – whereas noone knows what goes on in the Chinese Politburo).

    But to be clear the fusion of business and government interests is not necessarily corruption (indeed it often isn’t).

  5. “Fame portends trouble for men just as fattening does for pigs!”

    That’s an interesting proverb I had not heard before. Very interesting and too probably true given all the celebrity scandals the media here in the US tries to get us to listen to…

  6. It will be interesting to hear this guy’s rags to riches story exposed through a court trial. If it is like Russia, crony capitalism used to rule with the oligarchs. Former state owned enterprises hived off by former state employees using all sorts of tricks and become rich.

    But this guy seems to be an entrepreneur. Nobody knows exactly how he got his way up to the top.

    One thing for sure in crony capitalism, if you got the bling and money, anything is possible, you sure can hire a good lawyer and find a “mediated” resolution to your problems rather than going through to court trial. You need the “guanxi” and the people with the know how to make it happen.

  7. stock manipulation? Must be at least a couple of years ago, the Shanghai Composite has lost about 70% YTD, this guy probably got his face ripped off like everyone else who invested in Chinese equities (including myself…)

    Pretty shitty year so far for almost all asset classes, only way to make money in the market is trading the VIX…

  8. Extremely wealthy Chinese businessman with government connections arrested?

    Wow, didn’t see that one coming.

  9. There is a Chinese saying 无商不奸 无官不贪
    (Rough Translation : There is no businessman who is not a cheat, there is no official who is not corrupt)
    Maybe this hits the nail on the head?

  10. Chinese sayings are just that, sayings! It seems people just like to spout off the sayings but then go back eating and nothing changes. Repeating a saying doesn’t make anyone wise. Taojas, I am not trying to be rude to you so I am sorry if comes across like that but your post just made me think this. These sayings that come out left and right have become substitutes for action.

  11. 干缺德事没关系,关键是上面要有人,李鹏一家老小剥削了中国多少,把厦门整个卖给走私分子了,算得上通敌卖国了吧,可有人敢放一个屁吗。

    这个傻逼的遭遇告诉我们一个硬道理:有多高地位就干多高的事,别胡来,总有人比你牛逼。

  12. unwelcomewhiteracistevilguy

    he probably deserves it the capitalist bastard. it cud be good, the CCp will not allow wealth to influence their judgements unjustly ( i tend to believe this, what can the west possibly say now?)

    or it cud be bad, rich man have power and the ccp is inherently jealous and against them (chinese friends)

    im vaguely associated with a really rich guy. hes a top notch guy, honest decent and modest . a model for hu jingtaos 8 principles. but the bitter jealous side of me has gotta wonder how the f did u make that much moolah so quick?

  13. Given the system in China I don’t think it is possible to become rich here if you don’t break the law. EVERYONE breaks the law in China because the laws are contradictory or designed to be broken. That way the powerful can jail anyone that displeases them.

  14. Just another one of those people that probably thinks gluing a Stradivarius on your lounge wall is a sign of class.

  15. I wonder how many people who post comments here are really business people or who have first hand accounts with dealing with business negotiations.
    Well, I am. I can tell you with absolute certainty that graft greases the wheels in China’s business circles. With exceptions to foreign companies doing business in China and some state-run entities bribery is almost a requirement if not the norm.
    With local salaries so low compared to their western counterparts the allure of extra cash is too much for most.
    It’s almost endemic. It’s ingrained into the society at some levels. You find it in school teachers, doctors, lawyers, engineers, and the list goes on.
    It will take the government to form an equivalent of Hong Kong’s ICAC with sweeping powers and another 50 years before China is even near the professional ethics found in developed countries.
    There needs to be more education of the dire consequences of graft: Milk-scandal, Poor Sichuan building standards, drug-scandals ( and these are the ones that cause bodily harm) etc. There are countless industries where graft does not reveal itself in the form of dire consequences.

  16. This poor bastard is just one the biggest (may I suggest one of the more foolish) fish in the government’s radar.

    All businessmen run their businesses within the “gray areas” of the law. They will push the “envelopes” of ethical business practices at every chance. Lacking in any competitive advantage or expertise all local businessmen tend to choose for the easiest form of advantage–graft. Local companies almost all do NOT have any corporate ethic boards or SOP against graft. This is not a guess– it’s reality. Most of the companies that I have the chance to encounter are just well-packaged “boys clubs.” Their owners and executives are well dressed pigs who are out to make a buck with disregard of the law. I won’t name names but you can be assured they are not small companies. Most are listed or large corporations.

    Huang just got arrogant. He thought a listed company executive and prominent business personality like himself was above scrutiny. Unfortunately he was ambitious and too careless.

    FYI, I’m just a small executive, a cog in a foreign company supplying critical electronic equipment ubiquitous in large corporations. Which really means that our products are necessary for normal business functioning.

  17. Take it from me guys. It doesn’t matter if your gains are ill gotten or otherwise. If you make it big in a country that’s known for dodgy politics and less than stellar human rights record, get the hell out at first chance. Don’t be greedy going for that extra billion dollars or you might wind up permanently chilled out in Siberia with overly friendly cellmate named Igor.

  18. Gomeing Gomeing Gone

  19. He sold broken TV to wrong guy. Me.

  20. krdr aren’t exactly known to be the cleanest letters of the alphabet. ;

  21. @evalina

    Sentence should start with capital letter. Semicolon cannot stand alone. I read your comment few times. I didn’t understand what you aiming nor any connection with the post.

  22. I give caps to those who deserve them, ok.

    EVALINA

  23. @evalina

    :)+)

  24. @krdr

    I think… her starting with a small letter has to do with how you wrote your name. It could well have been: smickno are not exactly known to be the dirtiest letters of the alphabet. Anyway, not really importnat, is it?

    As for that semi-colon, I think it was just a minor typo error. Sometimes, we type too fast, and we accidentally hit an additional key. If you read all the comments here, everybody has made all kinds of typo error before. Really don’t know why you are so petty about this.

    If you read what you wrote, you should see not one but several errors in syntax made by you, but I shan’t mention where they are, since you know what they are, and you were probably writing in a hurry.

    That said, I also cannot get what evalina was trying to say, unless she suddenly got some inspiration regarding the four letters ‘krdr’? But try to take it in a positive way. You’ll never she might have been following your posting for a long time and secretly admiring your style of writing, eh?

    I think I am asking for trouble. Either you or she will respond and whack me. Or ignore me. boo boo.

  25. @smickno

    I found my comment about capital letters hilarious. I did it with purpose, to show that I have no hard feelings to Evalina (although I still cannot understand what she wanted to say).

    I’m aware that my writings aren’t comparable to Shakespeare’s or Nick Hornby’s. I’m using only two or three tenses, word order follows rules of Serbian language, to much use of “I”, etc…

    There’s no trouble for you from my side. ;)

  26. @Evelin

    Now I get it! You bet I am!

  27. Smile Mick N0

    This woman krdr laughs at a chinese man in the private sector. Does she read up before she laughs as man is arrested who is probably dead center. Sit down, Hell no on.

    “Take it in a positive way” krdr you say. She sounds like she still needs guidance. But as “You’ll never”…she should sit. Or study up.

    That woman EVA

  28. Eva Life Na

    I understand the girl cried. No idea if he bought the newspaper when his life was in garden.

    “This woman krdr laughs at a chinese man” True, we should buy a new pair of jeans.

    That man Smile Mick noonono

  29. krdr cries not from empathy but from wounded pride of ignorance. This I cannot respect.

    Gardens contain and provide limited education. Take the fruit and run I say!

    A framed woman (symbolically) could save the world or we could Hail unto forever. And War into eternity. Why not join hands on the pro science, sustainability of life cause. But that makes too much sense. I should go…

    Yet I remain. Actually, I would invest in genes, not jeans. And not hers. Sell out. Program an empath in her and yourself and regain your humanity.

    Sylvie’s not smiling either. Go get ****** Mick E

  30. @Evalina

    And how you concluded that I’m woman? Oh, Gosh!

    The truth is that guy did something wrong. Any time when high positioned business man or politician falls down, it is ’cause he endangered other guy position or didn’t give a “share”.

  31. @Eva*** and k*d*

    You are partly right. “I would invest in genes, not jeans” is reason Shakespeare and Bush were born. In USA, high positioned business man went to North Pole and say polar bear. Earlier on, k*d* and Eva*** became grandparents

  32. Somewhat true, Micky.

    Timing is everything, k.
    Share when you trust, right? smug smile

  33. Its funny how people only believe Corruption and illegal business activites occur in China.

    Its funny how people say dumbshit like hes going to bribe someone.

    In China, you bribe a bunch of guys.
    In USA, you hire 100 lawyers.

    result is the same. – not guilty.

  34. If you look at some job advertisement in China. Normally one of the essential requirements is you have experience and good relationships with the government agencies or regulators.

    It is no different from the U.S. such as those old boys club from the Ivy League Universities or Treasury Secretary Paulson hiring his ex-Goldman Sachs buddies to treasury positions.

    Just look at the biographies and backgrounds of the ex-Goldman people Paulson has selected for his bailing out of the Banks.

  35. It’s funny how each year Forbes announce China’s top ten richest a few of these ‘titans’ then begins to fall (I mean fall to the point of interrogation and scrutiny).

    Off topic: Go Me in Chinese characters is like America backwords right?

  36. It’s great to be an entrepreneur and succeed, but society always pays a price when wealth begins to get concentrated in the hands of a few, they start to get drunk with power and to get increasingly selfish. In the US, the rich have completely subverted the democratic process and control the media, without the information needed to think critically, Americans become fearful, ignorant and easy to manipulate. Competition is necessary in the world, inequality too, but shouldn’t it be limited and regulated to benefit society as much as possible, instead of letting it get completely out of control? Too much power in government or corporations… always a bad thing… Let the successful succeed, but let’s not go make them despots and emperors…

  37. What do you expect from such a person who had little or virtually had no education at all sitting as CEO or President in a company? I had watched him appear on TV interview at one time. He was uttering rubbish.

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