The Mummy 3: Insult To China and Chinese People?

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1. mtm

   Thursday, September 18, 2008 at 11:23 pm

   waaaahh… long reply, now i’ll have to activate my other braincell.

   Ok, I think you might be missing my point. I do actually with most of what you wrote, but do remember that I was addressing Rushnikus’ comments. Re-read his 2nd paragraph.

   >>If you’re referring to the United States with the “200 years of atrocities”..<<

   nope, I was referring to the entire Western world. Its only fair considering respective populations and remember it’s mainly Western countries that are shitting on us from on high.

   So lets do a quick summary:

   -Invasions: most of the planet except a few spots like Thailand,

   -Slavery: need i expand on this?

   -routine mass mutilation: see Belgians in the Congo

   -liberal free market for pharmaceuticals: see Opium Wars,

   -use of “divide & conquer” tactics to aggravate racial conflicts: Bantu vs Hutu (originally one people), “Martial races” etc

   -Genocide: Brits twice in Africa, another alleged in Australia, multiple unfinished attempts by various western parties where ever uppity color folk misbehave. Gold however goes to the Germans for clinical efficiency.

   -Unequal Treaties: http://news.sina.com.cn/china/2000-08-14/117127.html
   Also oft overlooked is sheer robbery of tax revenue, for example at Chinese customs which was misappropriated to totally upgrade the Royal Navy with spanking new boats, I mean imagine China had that navy!

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2. mtm

   Friday, September 19, 2008 at 12:58 am

   I have to confess that I used to be a “self hating Chinese”. In the eyes of some, I still am. I still suspect that Chinese people are at some levels amoral savages. I feel they must be so because only a savage could survive the nightmare of the last 200 years. On the other hand, Westerners are monsters of conceit and self-deceit. They CHOOSE to be that way.

   I saw this on Peking Duck which I felt described the present Chinese society beautifully:
   “I admire its purity. A survivor unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.”

   Note that I am an optimist: things are improving, but I wouldn’t consider replacing amorality with the bogus morality of Freepers or Democratic Underground to be an “improvement”.

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3. Anonymous

   Friday, September 19, 2008 at 5:31 am

   grow up, China…..emulate the USA and you too can be as wonderful and desirable!

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4. fsc

   Friday, September 19, 2008 at 10:06 am

   The negative bbs comments remind me of African Americans who are fed up with how hollywood and the media have a tendency in potraying AA’s in a negative light.

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5. Kai

   Friday, September 19, 2008 at 1:22 pm

   @ mtm: LoL, I like your style.

   Alright, so to clear things up, we agree and your point was that you just wanted to be angry at Rushnikus. Let’s take a look at his second paragraph:

   Exactly. The cultural revolution never stopped, its still going, just using a different method, but Chinese people obviously don’t care, they don’t learn from mistakes they just repeat them.

   This is true of many people, but given the Sanlu incident, this seems particularly true for China right now. On one hand, we do care, but either enough people do not care or we don’t care enough that these mistakes get repeated.

   Seriously, I have given up caring about it, you cant say anything bad about China at all without being attacked, they would rather get all crazy and anti-foreign about a movie rather than fix their own problems.

   This is an understandable observation, just as it is understandable that some Chinese found The Mummy 3 to be offensive. Some might think it silly, but at least the reaction can be understood and isn’t just completely random.

   When China collapses and people lose jobs and houses as a result of this apathetic attitude to their own problems I’m gonna be laughing my ass off, stupid blind fools.

   Refer to first sentence.

   Okay, so I’m glad I caught myself possibly being wrong about the 200 year thing referring to Americans (though their ~200 years of youthful history makes that an easy assumption). I thought you might have meant the rip-roaring centuries of Western imperialism, but I wasn’t sure.

   Either way, my overarching point is that I think this tit for tat “well, you did all these evil things to us” bickering is at best unproductive and at worst makes us Chinese look like we’re obsessed with playing the victim card. Yes, we were victims. Now, we can either sit nursing our insecurities all day bitching and blaming the West for all of our problems both past and present OR we can get real, accept that much of our past and current situation is our own fault, shut up, and do something about it.

   You see, one of the major reasons we Chinese, as a civilization, fell behind “the West” is precisely because we shit on them from on high long ago. Once upon a time, we were arguable the world’s most advanced civilizations while the “white barbarians” were still running around in their clans pillaging wenches. What happened? Well, we thought we were better than everyone else, that they were not worthy of our interest, and we squandered it all away by being complacent or fighting ourselves while those same “white barbarians” somehow enlightened themselves and industrialized into globe-spanning military powerhouses.

   Both Dr. Sun Yat Sen and Mao Zedong knew this (they just had different, competing ideologies) and that’s what they endeavored to rectify, to bring us together, to shake off our old arrogant habits, and modernize us so we can compete for our place in the world. More importantly, they didn’t do it all so we can sit around whining about our grievances with white people.

   Winners do something about their problems. Losers only bitch. It is my personal opinion that too many Chinese would rather bitch than make a difference in their society. Now, there are reasons for this, and I don’t expect every individual to be a revolutionary, but seriously, we bitch a lot. Hu Jintao would rather trot around the globe making deals with emerging African nations and sourcing oil–the blood of development–from Middle-Eastern powers than sit around whining. The only reason why he and the CCP allow or foster normal people whining? Because it solidifies their power base, and that legitimacy is something they do need. Were it not for that, all this bitching makes us look rather petty.

   Your “quick summary” proves my earlier point: You’re looking at history selectively, ignoring all our own past offenses and mistakes, and just trying to highlight and blame the West only. Let me try to balance things out for you:

   Invasions: We Chinese have invaded and waged wars for thousands of years.

   Slavery: To this day, we have children slaving away in sweatshops and coal mines.

   Mass mutilations: What? Never heard of Chinese torture or even self-inflicted fashion trends like foot-binding?

   “Liberal free market for pharmaceuticals:” What about Myanmar and the few other weak states we exported melamine-tainted milk to? They had no idea they were drinking poison. We at least knew opium was bad. Need I say more?

   Divide and Conquer tactics: You’ve got to be kidding me. This is one of the time-tested tactics of the CCP in just about anything against its interests! Why do you think the atheistic CCP appointed a different Lama to replace the Dalai Lama?

   Genocide: How can you even bring this up knowing full well how China has been popularly associated with the “genocide” in Darfur? Are you just asking for trouble? Oh sure, we’re not killing those people with our own hands, we’re just giving the government the money to buy the weapons (also from us) to do so.

   Unequal Treaties: You’re kidding me, right? This is the best you have? This is what is going to prove beyond a doubt that “the West” is evil incarnate and us Chinese are always the poor, innocent victims?

   Okay, I hope you’re getting the point of how pathetic it is for us Chinese to continuously laundry-list grievances towards the West. For their part, most of their textbooks and education systems (most certainly in universities) address if not outright criticize their imperialist mistakes and offenses. What about China? We seem to gloss over if not outright pretend our own mistakes for the past 50-60 years do not exist and the only reason our textbooks detail the villainy of the KMT or our imperial history is only to prop up how the CCP “liberated” us.

   This is not about being a “self-hating Chinese.” In fact, the only people more pathetic than insecure whiners are those who loathe themselves. Never forget who you are and where you come from. Winners can see their own problems and change. The worst losers wish they weren’t themselves. The West can be hypocrites, yes, but hell, we’re hypocrites too. We did not survive the last 200 years because we were savages, we survived because we are survivors, and hopefully because deep down inside, we know we overcome these hardships, and we know we deserve to be here.

   We’re all fucking hypocrites. We’re all capable of the worst atrocities. When are we going to stop pointing fingers and making excuses? Again, I ask: Just because the West did (and does) terrible things, does that excuse us?

   “I admire its purity. A survivor unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.”

   Either you misunderstood this description on The Peking Duck or you’re a heartless, amoral, the ends-justify the means, conceited bastard. Being a survivor is good, but being without conscience, remorse, or a sense of morality is not necessarily a good thing for most of society.

   “On the other hand, Westerners are monsters of conceit and self-deceit. They CHOOSE to be that way.

   That just gives you away, mtm. I’m sorry but that statement is patently absurd of you. How can you see the problems that continuously plague China such as the recent Sanlu incident and have the audacity to call Westerners “monsters” saying “they CHOOSE to be that way.” Then what are we? Did all the horrible Chinese people not CHOOSE to be this way? Are we not guilty of racial/cultural arrogance and conceit? Do we not often blind ourselves to our own failures and shortcomings?

   Comments like your’s contribute to the misunderstanding and hate-speech that fuels the antagonism between China, the Chinese, and the rest of the world. Can we please show the world that we’re better than this?

   The West has idiots and so does China. You seem like an educated person. Now please be one. You’re better than this.

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6. nanheyangrouchuan

   Tuesday, October 7, 2008 at 4:02 am

   All of these pathetic fen qing are also waiting to be defeated by the MIGHTY AMERICAN!

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7. Anonymous

   Tuesday, October 7, 2008 at 5:44 am

   you mean the EX-mighty Americans! Their empire has fallen and they’re too poor and struggling to survive to engage in more foreign wars.

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   • Fike2308

     Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 4:32 am

     Has the American Empire fallen?

     I think it will eventually but I don’t think it has yet….China still has a lot of catching up to do.

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8. guest

   Tuesday, October 7, 2008 at 9:55 am

   come on, it’s just something for fun. focus your attention on serious issues OK?

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9. Chico

   Wednesday, October 8, 2008 at 2:58 am

   Holy Shit people, this is a MOVIE!

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10. Ms_Chief

    Wednesday, October 8, 2008 at 7:25 am

    Agreeing with mtm, the people spitting vitriol about this film need to grow a thicker skin.

    The rise in Chinese nationalism disturbs me immensely.

    If China is to develop into a great superpower, the Chinese must learn to be able to listen to opinions, whether negative or positive, and be able to take part in constructive debate. Too often, negative opinions are taken too personally and are seen as an affront to Chinese people rather than policies. Maybe it’s because China is unique in the sense that culture, nationality and ethnicity are so closely intertwined.

    It seems that since the reporting of riots in Tibet this year, nationalism has gone into overdrive and any slight hint of anti-Chinese sentiment is followed up by a disproportionate backlash. It seems that China and the West have become even more polarised than before. The result is an unwavering, sometimes xenophobic nationalism and denial of problems mentioned by Western media.

    From what I’ve read, many Chinese mainlanders don’t even acknowledge there is a problem in Tibet, believing it to be Western propaganda trying to split up China. Many don’t want a democracy, thinking it’s the West trying to impose its ideology onto China. Believing that anything Western is inherently bad is a serious obstacle in its development, if not a backward step.

    I think the thin skin comes from, in addition to nationalism, the fact that Chinese mainlanders have been sheltered from criticism or voices of dissent for too long due to government censorship. Am I right in believing that before the reporting of the riots in Tibet, media that reported unfavourably on China were censored? The majority of Chinese didn’t really know much or care about Western opinion on China? They weren’t aware about how negative foreign media are? It must have come as a bit of a shock to many that the foreign media are so far from towing the CCTV line of singing the party’s praises.

    It is inevitable that the economic growth will slow. The country cannot go down the fully capitalist route because it will undermine the party’s ideology. When this happens, the party’s legitimacy will be called into question. Am I right in thinking that when the government realised the reaction against the Tibet riot reports stirred up a wave of nationalism, they were more willing to loosen their grip on censorship to exacerbate the situation? And haven’t the people (esp. netizens) unwittingly been mobilised as a pawns to fight and defend the government’s actions and ideology, whether good or bad? It seems to me that the government is jumping on the nationalist bandwagon to its meet its own ends in order to secure its legitimacy. If they are not careful, the people will be too busy defending China against foreigners to watch what their own government is doing.

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    • Fike2308

      Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 4:37 am

      Ms_Chef makes a lot of excellent points….I totally agree.

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    • Patricia Betty

      Wednesday, October 19, 2011 at 8:24 pm

      China deserves bashing. They are a cruel nation who skin animals alive , bake living puppies in ovens, squash animals to death and film it happening. They are wicked to children and have no respect for life in any shpae or form,.

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11. Anonymous

    Wednesday, October 8, 2008 at 11:49 am

    maybe Chinese nationalism will subside if China-bashers would lay off with the extreme demonization. Even patriotic Americans get defensive when the US is bashed by foreigners or liberals, who are automatically labeled ‘traitors’ and ‘commies’.

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12. fcuk da lu ren

    Wednesday, October 8, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    At Anonymous,

    You fail to realize that China bashes, vilianizes, and portreys America as the great evil every day. The fact of the matter is that our dirty laundry is out in the open every day for everyone to see. China now must face the same thing as she emerges on the world stage. The difference is, though I will agree sometimes it is a bit much, the US media gives China far better and fair coverage than China does the other way around. Chinese State Controlled media is always crying about China bashing, when in fact most of the time it is just reporting what is REALLY going on in China. Then we get a bit sick and tired of China “Standing UP” to the media and demanding apologies like children.

    You know what, no one in America is getting China 514 license plates, like China did when 911 happened. The average Chinese can’t take critisizm so they lash out and “blame” the “western” media. That right there shows your ignorance as the term “western” is not even defined by the many different cultures you lump into the “west”. Take a look at yourselves before you start accusing us of being “anti China”. We don’t stage massive rallies in YOUR country and abuse your people like you did during the torch relay.

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    • Fike2308

      Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 4:38 am

      “The fact of the matter is that our (American) dirty laundry is out in the open every day for everyone to see.”

      That’s totally true.

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13. SellingCows

    Wednesday, October 8, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    Fcuk, you start with a decent point but you work things up more than you calm them down. This is a fun spirited blog.

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14. Anonymous

    Wednesday, October 8, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Some nationalistic Americans are so fcuked up in believing their government is virtuous and benevolent. In reality, the US has been overtly and covertly involved in mayhem around the world protecting the interests of their ruling elite. When faced with these truths (BLOWBACK-the Costs and Consequences of American Empire by Chalmers Johnson), people like fcuk go into denial and start screaming COMMIE PROPAGANDA.

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    • Fike2308

      Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 4:40 am

      You can’t understand America unless you are American (according to Chinese “logic”)…yes, I’m being a smart-ass.

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15. fcuk da lu ren

    Wednesday, October 8, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    To Anoymous,

    I would expect a Chinese to understand or fully comprehend what I wrote, maybe I need to dumb it down.

    We KNOW that we do things that aren’t right (that is why you see our own people protest wars etc, do they do that often in China?)

    You say the “west” bashes China and that causes the Chinese to be nationalistic etc…. The fact is that you guys are all whipped up into fervor over situations that are historically irrelevant to today’s modern China (built by the west).

    Then you bloat your chest and pound sounding off how great you are, and when someone points out something, you cry like babies and say everyone is bullying you.

    @ Selling cows… I’m not the person or persons all worked up with nationalism about a Hollywood movie. Seriously, these people have little man syndrome beyond belief

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    • Fike2308

      Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 4:44 am

      Right, a lot of (not all) Chinese people seem to ASSUME that Americans think and behave like Chinese.

      From my experiences I feel like the majority of Chinese people support most of their Government’s policies…maybe I am wrong but I really feel this way.

      In America, everything seems 50/50 to me. No matter what happens about half of the people will support it and half will argue against it.

      Just my opinion…

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16. a native chinese-_-

    Thursday, October 9, 2008 at 2:23 am

    Take easy!If you don’t like the Hollywood big movies,nobody will compel you~~~~~~~~~

    Sometimes,Hollywood is a tool which compel people of others country to accept the notion of USA

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17. nanheyangrouchuan

    Thursday, October 9, 2008 at 5:28 am

    Chalmers Johnson’s would have a little more clout if he wasn’t such a blind panda licker. He came to China, saw shiny cities and big malls and went back to the US and declared “the future has arrived”.

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18. Joyce

    Thursday, October 9, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    The Chinese just like having something Western to pick on.
    I was at a conference at the London School of Economics — so this was no bunch of dummies. The talk was about Tibet, so of course people got riled up.

    A Chinese lady stood up and declared — declared! — that Westerners could not criticize Chinese rule in Tibet so long as Beijing was filled with Coca-Cola ads and her daughter kept watching the Disney cartoon Mulan. She complained about factual errors in Mulan, Americans destroying Chinese culture through Mulan, etc. etc.

    Come on. Mulan is a cartoon. How can you compare that to an entire government policy on Tibet? (My husband is French. I don’t see him getting offended by Ratatouille).

    If responded that if this Chinese lady really hated American culture, why would she buy it, bring it home, watch it and give it to her children? Nobody was forcing her. Nobody was stopping her from teaching her daughter proper Chinese history instead.

    She didn’t say anything after that. Actually, she didn’t speak to me again for the rest of the conference!

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    • Fike2308

      Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 4:46 am

      Who takes a movie like Mulan seriously?

      Geez, are any Disney cartoons supposed to be historically accurate?

      Like is life a musical? People break out into spontaneous songs and choreographed dances out of nowhere?

      Obviosly not realistic….duh.

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19. fcuk da lu ren

    Thursday, October 9, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    Dude, mainlanders have no sense of logic. They portray us as evil invaders or blundering barbarians and then get all riled up about a movie that has not tried to make a REAL historical connection. If Hollywood did that it would be about Ying Zheng butchering millions and throwing them into pits as well as burning all the books in the country (hey sounds kinda like recent history)

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20. Observer

    Thursday, October 9, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    @fcuk da lu ren

    You’re always complaining about how Chinese accuse the west of China-bashing. But you chose the screen name “fcuk da lu ren” and you constantly leave racist comments on this site.

    What are you so mad about? You’re not in China anymore. Why can’t you get over your unpleasant experience there?

    Americans are petty and nationalistic, so why do you expect Chinese to be different? What’s the story with you, man? Did you go to China with some big dreams which were subsequently shattered? I pity you.

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21. fcuk da lu ren

    Thursday, October 9, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    @ Observer,

    If you are not a Da LU REN, then you are probably an overweight English teacher delighting in the fact that you can now get women in China and therefore love China.

    I have in fact had my fair share of unpleasant experiences in China, hence I left. Racist? Yeah a little, but nothing compared to the hoards of Chi Mates that daily rattle on about America. And I don’t agree with your statement that most Americans are nationalistic and petty. Most of us are better balanced than that.

    You pity me? Everybody needs to vent bro, I’m quite content with my life now and just letting off a little steam.

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22. Observer

    Friday, October 10, 2008 at 1:31 am

    @da lu ren

    I agree that everybody needs to vent sometimes, but I think you’re going overboard. To all the Chinese visitors to this site, you’re playing into their worst fantasies about China-bashing foreigners. Think about the consequences of your venting, both for you and others. Don’t you think you’d be happier if you could come to peace with your experience in China?

    By the way, I am an American who lived in China teaching English. I went to China out of interest in the culture and language, which I studied in America. It was a difficult experience being stared at every day and after I got in an argument with a local there was even a rumor going around that I look down on Chinese people. I was angry often. But after coming back home I realized that there were many things about China I missed, like being able to walk around at night without worrying for my safety. I also realized that most Americans truly are biased when they talk about China.

    I don’t know what part of America you live in, but racism is alive in well in many parts of America. How do you think it feels to be a Chinese student in middle America and constantly be told how his country must be a horrible place?

    I also think you should understand that many Chinese will put down America when they meet an American, and aggrandize China. However, when no foreigners are around they will be much more critical of China and praise other countries more. So you should not take Chinese people’s comments to you as being racism, but more of a failed attempt to stand up for their country. Some Chinese also have an inferiority complex with foreigners, and like to put down the foreigner’s country in the beginning of a conversation. At first this made me angry, but then some Chinese friends helped me to understand that this was done out of an inferiority complex. Some Chinese automatically assume that foreigners look down on China. I wouldn’t call this racism. There is some truth to their belief, and the rest is a pitiable inferiority complex.

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23. Kai

    Friday, October 10, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    @ Joyce:

    Rock on, I’m glad you called her out and put her in her place. Such idiocy needs to be squashed whenever possible.

    @ fcuk da lu ren:

    I agree with Observer in the sense that you are playing into their fears and reinforcing their stereotypes of foreigners. Just as they shouldn’t judge all foreigners by your example, we shouldn’t judge all Chinese by the example of a few either…but yet stereotypes exist and they do a lot of harm to cross-cultural understanding. I won’t begrudge your freedom to vent (everyone does it sometime), but hopefully you’ll take Observer’s advice and maybe try to vent more constructively.

    @ Observer:

    Yes, that inferiority complex is excruciatingly frustrating.

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24. jjl

    Sunday, October 12, 2008 at 11:13 am

    All i can say is, people who watch movies should take it as mere entertainment and not take it personal. I’m not siding on any, But it’s all just a matter of understanding different cultures and respecting them. I don’t see it as disrespect on the americans side, its just entertainment, making money,doing something different and all that crap. Jet Li didn’t even object to that role because he is smart and mature enough to know that. Jet Li has been playing lots of legendary roles of chinese characters and he surely won’t tarnish that reputation just for a silly fictional film. So chinese people shouldn’t be so paranoid into thinking that western people are doing this to hurt ya all. Americans like to trash things just for fun, even thrashing their own president. No offense, but again, that’s cultural and there’s nothing wrong with all that. So please, I respect your feelings but please grow up.

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25. Ano

    Sunday, October 12, 2008 at 11:46 am

    The worst that Chinese nationalists have done (not including idealogical atrocities during the cultural revolution) is verbal assault and pelting eggs at embassy buildings. They are hardly extremists like Islamic fundamentalists who issue death sentences to those committing ‘blasphemy’ to their faith and culture.
    Or Korean nationalists who chop off their pinkies or massacre national birds to protest Japanese nationalists.

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    • Fike2308

      Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 4:50 am

      True, islamic fundamentalists are much more dangerous than Chinese nationalists and, to their credit, I do find Chinese people, in general, to be peaceful and not violent or hostile towards foreigners.

      I really hate being stared at everyday and people shouting “Hello! Hello!” but at least no one is shouting insults at me in English or trying to pick a fight.

      That’s one of the things I do like about the people here….Americans are much more violent.

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26. JJ

    Tuesday, October 14, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Hollywood does the same thing to all of history. It’s not like they’re sitting there, picking on China, trying to make a statement. They do the same thing to US history. Stop being babies about it.

    It’s not like ancient Chinese history has anything to do with modern China anyway.

    It’s a movie. It’s all there for shits and giggles. Don’t get your panties in a wad just because a foreigner killed the shit out of a bunch of clay dudes. You do realize that those terra cotta soldiers weren’t actual soldiers, right? I mean, I could single-handedly annihilate that entire army, and I have no prior combat training.

    As for a three-headed dragon…well…I doubt I could kill that, but then again, dragons (yes, even Chinese dragons) never existed. That’s where Hollywood comes in.

    Stop being such nationalistic sissies.

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27. lala24

    Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    The movie is so funny, like YOUR Nationalistic feeling. Why are YOU so pride???These tradition make you sick!!!!!!!!

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28. meme

    Friday, November 7, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    Racist much?

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29. Aussie Chris

    Sunday, November 9, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    @ Kai

    Mate, I can’t remember how I came to be reading this website but for some reason couldn’t stop reading until I arrived at this ‘leave a Reply’ box. It is really unusual for me to feel compelled to post a response to any rediculously over analysed and emotionaly charged comment thread for a movie.

    You are (and are well aware of) the fact that you are educated, balanced and articulate.

    The amount of time and effort you spend writing on this topic is really strange.

    How about focusing your efforts and energies into a forum where your lingustic skills would be of far greater benefit than they are here to a pack of monkeys that argue because they wish to counter their own stupidity and insecurities.

    You are wasting your time here. You are better than this. Instead of remining in the comfortable position of having the majority of your opponents in this debate as your intellectual inferiors, you should break out and place yourself in a position where you can develop instead of stagnate.

    Remember, this thread is about stupid American trash movie; the audio visual equivalent of a TV dinner.

    What a waste.

    By the way, I live in Beijing and have done so for the last 3 years. It has it’s moments.

    Chris

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30. Kai

    Sunday, November 9, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    @ Aussie Chris:

    Wow, this thread was from eons ago so I don’t even remember what was discussed in this thread. Nonetheless, I’m sure the discussion dealt with issues beyond just whether “Mummy 3″ was an awful movie or not. LoL.

    I’ve always been someone who liked discussions but like a cliche, I’ve learned to stop caring as much as I grow older. That pretty much means I’ve become more realistic than idealistic with regards to the power of words. Some people are hopeless and I’m sure they feel the same about me, and it is something of a dead end.

    That said, I can assure you I dedicate most of my brain cells and time towards more meaningful and fruitful pursuits but I do occasionally get lured into battling trolls. Fortunately, I’m happy to say that there are still level-headed chaps running about who sometimes reaffirm my suspicion that not everyone in the world or on a website (such as this) are idiots.

    It is a bit mean of me (and a character flaw I presume) that I sometimes enjoy putting an idiot in their place (at least subjectively in my heart). I like to think there are at least some people who don’t comment but read and think “thank god someone said something.” Sometimes I’m the guy who says what is obvious. Sometimes it is someone else, and I’m the one who gets to just read and feel there is some hope in the world because at least one other person out there was willing to say what needed to be said, even if that means telling the idiots that they are, well, idiots.

    Anyway, I trust you understand and I thank you for your compliments. For your sanity, I encourage you to avoid the other posts, especially those where I am bashing my head against the wall against a character that goes by the name of “@nn” or “R0bert Bl@ck.”

    Cheers, mate.

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31. Screw Americans

    Saturday, December 27, 2008 at 9:33 am

    In the movie, they’re not talking about Emperor Qin shi huang. They talk about emperor Han (Han tai zu Liu Bang?? lol) these americans they don’t even know chinese history and they put shit films into the market. really pityfull

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    • Fike2308

      Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 4:52 am

      Should Americans know Chinese history?

      If so, shouldn’t they know the history of EVERY country? What makes China’s history so special?

      And who has time to become an expert in the history of every country and, to be philosophical, how accuarate are most “historical” accounts anyway??

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32. Xiao

    Wednesday, April 15, 2009 at 1:40 am

    Nah, let’s not make a big deal out of it. It’s not a big deal at all. I saw that movie and this is what I saw and seems to concurr with everyone out of the movie theatre, regardless of thier nationality (saw it in america). Jet Li was AWESOME!!! He was an excellent actor and his role was portrayed perfectly and he made viewers love the Emperor, or admire him. Every other main character sucked big time (Michelle Yeoh was kinda ok). They sucked, thier acting sucked, thier roles sucked, and the logic that bound the movie together sucked. Brandon Frasier hasn’t aged a fucking day since the Mummy I but he now has a son older than 20 years. He has a different wife (nothing you could do about that since the actor died but you could say she died from disease or something in the movie). The bad Chinese general was pummelled by a yeti, hit with a rocket, bombed and exploded in a car, but still arrived for the final fight. Fucking Terminater 4! And don’t even mention when that Tibetan bitch called in a coordinated Yeti strike. Everyone in the theatre laughed thier asses off! By the end, everyone wanted to see Jet Li kill everyone. Oh, and the love story sucked, not just because she was asian ans he was white so it was a bit insulting but the actors sucked, the lines sucked, and the “romance” was the most cliche piece of shit I had ever seen. In the end, it was a mediocre movie only because Jet Li was excellent; if he was not there, people would have walked out of the theatre in mid way.

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33. Not Found

    Monday, May 25, 2009 at 10:42 am

    Its just a movie! How many times we chose a monster’s head to be our icon when we play some games? Does it mean we are trying to insult ourselves? If we really want other countries to respect us, then stop crying each second about how other nations hate us, that’s not true! If you have proud inside of you, you will know that can not be taken by anything one or anything!

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    • Fike2308

      Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 4:56 am

      Dragons are cool…I wish I was one.

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34. alex

    Friday, June 5, 2009 at 12:29 am

    One person said that the west don’t know the history of China probably true mostly.

    Do the Chinese ”know” the history of China Tiananmen Square.for instance???????

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    • Fike2308

      Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 4:58 am

      Yes, a bunch of evil white westerners attacked tianamen square in 1989 and the glorious chinese army destroyed them.

      All hail the CCP!

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35. Logan

    Tuesday, August 18, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    If a Chinese company makes a movie like this about George Washington, I will definitely watch it!

    Just look at Metal Wolf Chaos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Wolf_Chaos

    Every American I know of who’s heard of that thinks it’s hilarious.

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36. Fike2308

    Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 3:30 am

    Wow, so funny to read some of the Chinese reactions to The Mummy 3….I never watched any of those movies in their entirety…and who takes movies like “The Mummy” seriously?

    One Chinese person wrote, “A nationality that easily feels wronged is an insecure one, and one that will be difficult to progress.” and I have to agree.

    All this sensitivity and lashing out I see from Chinese people EVERY SINGLE DAY makes me think they are really, really insecure….

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37. Fike2308

    Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 3:46 am

    Dark Knight rocked but I think it was banned here.

    I wonder if Chinese people would get pissed to see Batman going to Hong Kong and abducting Lau, the mob’s accountant….

    Chinese people should just stop watching American movies because they can’t handle them.

    They can just keep watching Titanic and Forest Gump over and over and over again….

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38. shitty_american_guy

    Saturday, November 21, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Well, America(or the U.S.A) sucks indeed. But i dont think people should make a big deal about a shitty movie. the mummy sucks and most american writers tend to fuck up things *cough* dragonball evolution *cough* they even fuck up their own history in those old western movies….anyhow its very childish to get upset over a movie because its not like it really happened or anything.

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39. neither american nor chinese :)

    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    i honestly thought this movie was kind of random. for the sole reason that The Mummy 1 and 2 were set in Egypt. i saw this and i was like: what? they have mummies in china? (sorry, not sure if china really does have mummies) anyhow. i was just too happy to find that Michelle Yeoh, Jet Li and freaking RUSSELL WONG were in the movie.

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40. onslaught

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 5:20 am

    chinese just need to chill the f**k out. they really think they are the center of the world?

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41. blaugrau

    Thursday, December 2, 2010 at 11:05 am

    The only reason someone should complain is if they paid 7 bucks to see it in a theater and then shelled out another 10 bucks for snacks and a drink. Other than that scenario, I think everyone should just sit back and relax. No one who saw the movie walked out of the theater thinking they saw real Chinese history. I suspect that many of the people who saw the movie can’t even locate China on a map.

    I saw the movie on HBO or Showtime and only the presence of Michelle Yeoh and Isabella Leong kept me interested. As long as Isabellla was on screen, I really don’t care if she calling in coordinated Yeti strike or a coordinated Loch Ness Monster strike.

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42. Zlsetrdx

    Monday, December 6, 2010 at 9:11 am

    I have a t- shirt with Chinese signs on it. I’d better don’t use it anymore. Chinese people could think It’s an insult to them…

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43. dreimalsechs

    Wednesday, January 19, 2011 at 11:12 am

    perhaps when chinese stop taking themselves too seriously they will get their heads out of their butts and realize whats really going on in the world.

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44. Lily

    Thursday, March 24, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Mummy 1: High priest defeated by this American.
    Mummy 2: Scorpion King defeated by this American.
    Mummy 3: Qin Shi Huang defeated by this American.

    If it continues along these lines..
    Mummy 4: Great Caesar resurrected, then defeated.
    Mummy 5: Genghis Khan resurrected, again defeated.
    Mummy 6: Napoleon also resurrected, again defeated.
    Mummy 7: Even Hitler resurrected, and goes on to being defeated.

    According to reliable sources: “Mummy 4: Resurrection of Emperor Mao.” According to the source, it is currently in the planning stages…

    The story will take place in the future in 2076, the 100th anniversary of Mao’s death, where Mao is resurrected, surrounded by tens of thousands of Red Guards, another Cultural Revolution breaks out, human civilization faces an unprecedented threat, can Brendan Frasier save the world this time???

    …???

    MADE ME LMFAO xD The chinese have great sense of humor!! Can’t hate! XD

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45. an

    Saturday, March 26, 2011 at 2:24 am

    [ According to reliable sources: “Mummy 4: Resurrection of Emperor Mao.” According to the source, it is currently in the planning stages…
    can Brendan Frasier save the world this time???]

    Given the bankrupt state of the US, they’ll need someone to save them if the US is to survive til 2076.

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46. Patricia Betty

    Wednesday, October 19, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    What a thing to get insulted about. Chinese people should stop feeling so insulted and do something about the appauling cruelty to animals in their country. You should feel ashamed, not insulted. How can you expect to be accepted by the world when you skin animals alive for their fur.

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