Chongqing Medical Students Disrespect Human Remains

Chongqing Medical Bones Girl

From NetEase:

Shocking Pictures of Girls Playing with Bones in a Chongqing Medical School

Today, [I] inadvertently clicked open a Chongqing netizen’s QQ Space, and saw these pictures. They triggered many thoughts.

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Nowadays, medical students treat human remains like this? What if you were the remains lying there, or if the bones they’re playing with were your bones, add some rude language, and what would you think? Don’t medical schools teach their students respect for human life during their first classes anymore? If a health care professional doesn’t even show respect for a corpse, how can he treat patients as though they were his family? Wouldn’t that be trifling with patients’ treatments as though it were playing house? It use to be that health care professionals would treat patients as though they were family. During dissections, professors taught students to respect life, and respect human remains. Nowadays it’s completely changed, [the students] even treat human bones like playthings to be posed with, to show off the fact that they’re medical students? I don’t know, do they want to show off that they have access to corpses to play with? Or did they watch too much Pirates of the Caribbean and want to flaunt their courage? Or to show everyone that even if they were so shameless, as long as they become health care professionals, patients will come see them?

If this kind of students graduate, work in the health care industry, would you be willing to let them treat you? If a group of such students graduated, would you be willing to let them treat your family? If every medical student were like this, how many in our society would dare go to the hospital?

All life should be dignified, even if he were a convict. After execution, his body should be treated with dignity. If one can’t treat remains respectfully, what kind of respect would they give living people?

Everyone has narcissistic moments, because of love for oneself. But if you use others’ remains as tools for entertainment, I believe that you’re in the wrong. Even if you don’t believe that the gods are watching, you need to respect human dignity, especially that of the deceased. Unless after your death you have no problems with others playing around with your remains. Unless after you’d been buried you’d let others dig you out for entertainment purposes.

The donated remains are for you to gain knowledge, to allow you help lessen the pain of those patients still living. If you can’t even understand this, then you’re not fit to be a health care professional!

So I want certain people to remember, human life and remains should be allowed dignity, despite status and accomplishments in life!

Comments from Netease:

王小妞^_^:

Turned the study of the human body into entertainment. Death is like a snuffed candle, no use to think too much of it.

新月-:

Post-90s generation?

欧洲网友:

A future health care professional that doesn’t have the least respect for the dead! Enough to say that this school is trash!

青海网友:

What a pile of trash, medical students too.

yupark898:

LZ is making a big fuss, I’ve never been to medical school, but I think perhaps the professors want students to overcome the fear of death, and allowed them to fiddle with the remains. In truth they’re not corpses at all, just some spare bones.

上海网友:

LZ, [the students are] youngsters, this doesn’t equate disrespect. You don’t understand the young, in comparison I think LZ is very evil, uploading these photos. I suspect you’re their classmate with a grudge.

辽宁营口网友:

Haha, humans are high-class animals, but not after death. Human remains are like animal remains, they’re just bones. No need for the outrage.

Osmart214:

Doesn’t show the least respect for life, [the students] don’t deserve to be doctors. No wonder nowadays every hospital is full of doctors that rip off [patients]. Beasts without heart!

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  1. she’s giving me a boner!

  2. This behaviour would get you thrown off a UK medicine course.

    Dont know what’s worse – the disrespct treatment of human remains or the stupidity in allowing oneself to be photographed.

    Who wants a Doctor that cant parse action & consequence?

    • Nonsense. This is common practice in medical universities all over the world, I have in fact heard of much worse in European countries.

      • I didnt say it didnt happen.

        Only that medical students who are caught doing this in the UK are thrown out. Fact.

        It happened whilst i was studying at Glasgow – someone took a hand and left it on the Underground, pretending his had been caught in a door :(

        He was thrown out.

        • Wow, you are comparing quite some things there. I don’t see any underground on the photo’s… or anything outside of the lab or something… What happens in Vegas…

          • What happens in Vegas is… your mum is a stripper ;)

          • I honestly dont know WTF is wrong with China or “Vegas”. But even in Canada, these acts are not allowed.

            I don’t know how much these specimens cost in China but it is worth “ALOT” in my place (Since we will never be able to obtain “real specimens” again without paying at least a million Canadian dollars, we never fucked around with them; in fact, they collect our signatures in the beginning of semester, and stated that the university launch legal actions against us if we conduct behaviors such as those mentioned above)

            Like you would thought these kids would be smarter. The skeleton is quite fragile (esp the surface marks that we have to study, that’s why we take extreme caution in handling with them so the next year guys do not have to suffer.) And jeez, these kids can take pics during their lab, they should use it for their own advantage such as taking detailed pics of the skeleton to study at home (we never got the liberties they have, and were not allow to take any pics at all). So honestly, the moment I saw these pics, i can help but asked myself “WTF is wrong with these kids being in Med school?”

          • MAOCUNT you are too illiterate and uneducated to study medicine. Don’t pretend you do ;)

          • LOL,

            Who said i studied Medicine? Med students aren’t the only ones that have to handle with bones.

        • I would think leaving a hand in the subway/underground would be a lot more disruptive than being silly with bones in a lab. Potentially starting a murder investigation and wasting police resources is not equivalent to taking silly photos with bones.

      • Absolutely true. Even at Cambridge University they get up to this kind of ridiculous shit (playing around with corpses etc.) – a guy I knew when I was doing my A-levels went on to study medicine there and spilled the dirt. Trust me, doctors are a sick bunch.

        • Doctors are like engineers and lawyers roled into one, very very few of them have a calling for medicine. Just look at the state of u.s drug policy the u.s, all supported by doctors.

          This is some really insensitive crap. what’s next playing with dead baby fetuses?

      • Sure you have. Typical response I’ve come to expect around here. Never accept responsibility and shun it by saying “Oh, it happens in so-and-so too!”

        Laughable.

    • I don’t think it is out of the ordinary. For my study biomedical engineering I have been to a similar lab twice as well (that was in Europe). Trust me, the jokes we made were far worse than on the photo’s. Later I wondered why it happened. I just think it is a method of protection or something like that. It kind of happens automatically, even people you wouldn’t directly expect would respond in such a way would participate, me myself included. I wouldn’t believe it if I wouldn’t have had the experience myself.

      • Indeed, peer pressure and getting caught up in the excitement thrill. Man is a herd animal, after all.

        Also the same excuse is used throughout history – from Belsen to Nanking, Tiananmen to Abu Ghraib.

  3. When i was at University I lived with a guy studying Medicine. Trust me when i say 99% of his classmates were posh, arrogant, coke-fiends, with God complexes.

    At least these guys have a sense of humour (even if it is a bit morbid)
    Whether you like it or not, since the first person found a human skull, someone has picked it up and pretended to fuck it.

  4. LOL.
    this must be a joke.
    shocking?
    lol.
    too many chinese are stuck ups.

  5. the superintendent of chongqing medical school said this day in cctv news that that incident was not related to his school.he pointed out the school’s lab didn’t have such curtain,and the colour of the floor tile is not the same.but one thing is certain,they are students.cctv reporter some days ago inadvertently found piles of piles of discarded medical drugs and instruments which was donated by individual philanthropists and charity organisations in tangshan clinic in the suburb beijing.the relevant authorities responded to this that they had no choice but wasting because they received excess donations.so,im reluctant to donate my organs.confucius said,”shenti fafu,shouzhi fumu,bugan huishang”,that means the parents give me body,hair and skin,i do not dare to hurt them.
    by the way,im a confuciunist.

  6. I have a theory that eating 麻辣火锅 more than three times a week leads to an over-spicing of the brain and an intestinal “strangeness” due to constant 拉肚子. This in turn leads to BT behavior. These photos were taken in Chongqing–need I say more?

  7. I’ll give those girls a bone to disrespect…

  8. - IT: China sets new world record –

    Today, the Guinness World Records association has officially announced that China’s Intranet is now the biggest and most popular inane electronic tabloid in the world, with more than 253 millions reader, writers and subscribers.

    Zhu Entao was unavailable for comment at the time of publication.

    (Copyright© XinHua, Beijing, China – 2009)

  9. people make a big deal out of nothing these days

  10. Goddamn, Chongqing girls are really a step up from the rest of the regions. Even their mediocre looking girls are good. DO WANT.

  11. These kids can play all they want and I doubt the quality of healthcare would drop. Since when was China’s Medicare respected?

    The only reason I visit a doctor in China is to get a work leave form. Then I throw his/her crappy prescribed medicine in the bin and go to the pharmacy to get BETTER medicine! Oh and usually they give the same stuff you can buy from the pharmacy anyway. I don’t find doctors that useful here.

  12. I married into a medical family. My wife is a nurse, her brother is a doctor and their cousin is an assistant medical examiner in New York.
    From the stories they tell, this is very mild behavior.
    This playing not only helps students get over fear or hesitation, it actually facilitates their becoming familiar with the intricacies of the human body. Yes, it is disrespectful, but when your life depends on it, are you going to ask the doctor how respectful she was of remains before you let her operate?
    I’ve asked that after death my body be donated to a medical school. I have no illusions about how it will be treated by the students. But the next generation of doctors have to start somewhere.

  13. Want to meet a hot medical student who disrespects the dead? Try chinaSMACK personals.

  14. Oh my. I am grandfather now, and in my youth, medical students, students of biology etc. were exactly like that, and that was not in China.

    It is damn normal. Medical education in the West (dunno how it is in China) starts with the anatomical preparation class (in short called prep course). That means that young students are cutting apart a human body for 3 months thrice a week. Some start vomiting, some very sensitive even quit studying med. Most obtain a cynical attitude.

    As to my experience, education in China concerning the human body, especially sexuality etc. is still defective, impaired by prudeness and traditional taboos. Students of medicine are thrown into a blunt confrontation with human bodies, outside as well as inside, with disease and death. Making a good laugh out of it is a way to distance yourself and shield away uneasy feelings.

    It has always been that way. Students of medicine took pride of being the ones never to be shocked, to be utterly cool bastards (in my professional career as a systems programmer, I was working for hospitals and universities for quite at time).

    In the times of internet it is probably unwise to take such photos and let them leak out. Sorry for the young people who made fools out of themselves and are facing consequences. Don’t judge them too hard.

    a^2

  15. Kids having fun to relieve the pressure big deal. get off your high horse. Jesus some of you people cant wait for the next thing to complain about …how about you fix your obviously sad boring lives first….

  16. All them bones are just plastic replicas. No need to get excited.

  17. chinese are full of wonders, aren’t they?

  18. Well, it is ok to fiddle with the remains to overcome fear, but to play like put a skull over ur head is odd…. Btw, I wouldnt look at the bones, scared me… really.

  19. Life is cheap. Those old bones ain’t from some ancient Indian Burial Ground, so stop acting like it means shit.

    And yes, I’d “bone” the hell out of the gals, but they’re out of my league. Med students are probably loaded to begin with. Couldn’t afford to take her out :(
    Hood rats for a few more years…

  20. … im guessing theres no interesting news lately?

  21. I don’t see what’s the big issue about it. Those people knew that when they signed up to be scientific specimens for when they died that kids would be fooling around with them. Also nowadays pretty much no dead person is safe(with the necrophiliacs and all). So stop blowing everything out of proportion all the time. If that were me I probably would’ve done the same thing too. Oh yeah, and just because a group of kids were playing ninja with skeletal parts doesn’t make an entire school a load of trash.

  22. med student here
    we do this shit all the time
    just be glad its not the reproductive organs photos you saw

  23. I don’t think that that is anything new regarding medical students’ behavior. At least in Western countries.

  24. A lot of people claim to have family or friends who were medical students and they say this is common practice. No it is not. I don’t know where this Chinese anatomy lab is but it doesn’t look anything like the UK med school anatomy lab. I was a PhD supervisor in the department of anatomy and physiology at a UK redbrick university, which included some work on human bodies and organs. None of the students had the inclination or opportunity to do this kind of thing because: 1. They were ALWAYS supervised. 2. They had to fill out detailed consent and code of conduct obligation forms in the aftermath of the Redfern report (http://tinyurl.com/yb6gtdm). 3. The human cadavers used for demonstration/dissection were not ‘dry’ like these mummified remains, but preserved in formalin, and quite unpleasant to handle. 4. Medical students at our university had already done some clinical attachments before entering the anatomy stream, and – believe it or not – actually showed mature and respectful attitudes towards human remains. 5. Entry requirements for medicine in the UK are high. Students are smart enough to realise that you do not post pictures like this on social networking sites, especially when posting pictures of yourself doing silly poses on hospital property can get you suspended:
    http://tinyurl.com/mnr4p2

    • Redbrick university? It wasn’t Sussex was it?

    • only the photos are not taken in a cadavers lab, but Skeleton pieces in what seems to be an anatomy class room

    • I can agree with a lot of what you said, HM.

      This kind of behavior is outlawed and can lead to fines or imprisonment in all 50 states here in the US.

      I might add that that is also true here in the District of Columbia, which of course is home to 600,000 people and has its own criminal and civil laws, court system, police, school system, public university, health institutions &c.

      The residents of D.C. who are U.S. citizens have the right to vote in the U.S. Presidential general elections and we vote in our own primary elections for the three parties here as well: the Democratic Party, the Republican Party and the D.C. Statehood/Green Party.

      Sadly, we do not have direct representation in the US House of Representatives or the US Senate.

      We have a non-voting delegate in the House of Representatives.

      Dr. Eleanor Holmes Norton is a law professor at the Georgetown University Law School, and she is our nonvoting delegate.

      She has to run for office every two years, just like all the other members of the House of Representatives.

      Del. Norton can vote in House Committee meetings, which is very important, because the Congress has oversight and approval over all of the legislation that is passed by our own legislature.

      Our legislature is the elected city council, which has members from each of the eight Wards and at-large members for whom all the city residents vote.

      We also elect the D.C. Mayor. He runs at-large, i.e., all the registered voters in the city can vote for him.

      Mr. Adrian Fenty, an attorney and fitness enthusiast, has won the last two mayoral elections but he is becoming increasingly unpopular. Many people consider him arrogant and removed from city affairs.

      Our city government gains its authority under a statute (ordinary law) that implements a provision of Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution.

      Constitutional laws sometimes are called organic laws.

      They are, in effect, more fundamental and potent than the statutes that Congress drafts, debates, approves and passes on to the executive branch. The leader of the executive branch, the US President can approve the legislation passed by Congress by signing it into law, or he can veto (Latin for “I forbid”) legislation passed by Congress and send it back with a message describing his objections.

      Congress’ holds the reciprocal power to override vetoes by a 2/3 votes of the members of each chamber, i.e., both the House and Senate. If Congress overrides the Presidential veto of a particular bill, that legislation becomes law without the President’s approval.

      Anyway, the section of the Constitution that sets up Congress as the overseer of the District of Columbia reads, in part, that:

      “The Congress shall have power…..

      [eighteen other clauses omitted here]

      To exercise exclusive legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District, (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of Government of the United States…and

      To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or any Department or Officer thereof.”

      The text of that particular passage of the Constitution hasn’t changed since 1791.

      Note that in English “ten miles square” is equal to 10 miles by 10 miles = 100 square miles. “Ten square miles” is one-tenth of that area.

      However, and very importantly, the interpretation of that clause has evolved over time.

      That evolutionary change has been shaped by the decisions of the Supreme Court of the United States, the highest court in this land.

      Constitutional scholars agree that the Supreme Court has strongly hinted that Congress could, using its own authority, provide for D.C. to get representation in the House or Senate or both chambers.

      That high court ruling, which came in a case not directly related to the question of D.C. representation or statehood, relied on another passage in the US Constitution that gives Congress the authority to regulate the methods by which its members are chosen.

      If you’ve read this far, you might be wondering, what are the practical consequences of the fact that the 600,000 people who live in DC are answerable to Congress, rather than to their own elected officials.

      Sometimes, attorneys and other people refer to the D.C. government as “a creature of Congress.”

      A less polite way to express the same thought would be to say that the D.C. government is almost a puppet government of the US Congress, because Congress could, and has in the past, abolish the D.C. government by passing a new law that would revoke all the authority it has delegated to the mayor, the city council and the DC court system.

      The US Congress did exactly that in the middle of the 19th century, after a period of outrageous financial scandals instigated by locally-elected officials.

      For about 100 years, in a period that ended during the administration of Lyndon Baines Johnson, who took office because JFK was assassinated (in 1963) and left office in 1969 after Richard Nixon’s election victory in November, 1968, DC was governed by commissioners who the US President nominated and Congress confirmed (or rejected).

      DC residents regained their right to vote in Presidential elections in 1964.

      There are some very significant practical effects of the lack of home rule in D.C. and our lack of representation in the House and Senate.

      For example, DC criminal law does not provide for a death penalty.

      The general public in this city opposes the death penalty. Not all states in the US have the death penalty.

      Some of the states that do have it have halted executions pending evaluation of existing convictins in capital cases and the results of litigation over whether the death penalty methods consitute “cruel and unusual punishment,” which the US Consitution forbids.

      Most US states do have capital punishment laws. Those laws have become increasingly unpopular over the past 20 years.

      Careful review of the cases of individuals who have been sentenced to death has led to the release of dozens of innocent men, and a very small number of innocent women, from death sentences.

      Many of these cases have hinged on the new technology of DNA evidence analysis.

      The overwhelming majority of people on the various state death rows have been convicted of murder, and almost always of murders that have been aggravated, or made worse, by other crimes.

      Aggravating circumstance include, for example, murders committed in the course of additional crimes such as rape and robbery, or murders of police officers or judges, or murders that are prosecuted as especially heinous because they were especially sadistic or carried out against children.

      The federal government has death penalty laws, but they cover only very limited circumstances.

      Those circumstances include crimes on federal property, and the special legal system for the military.

      Military law in the US is codified in the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

      The UCMJ establishes the military courts and the rules for the Judges Advocate General, who are military or naval attorneys on both the defense and prosecution sides.

      Consider, as an aside, the fact that the treatment of military prisoners by the armed forces is regulated by the UCMJ.

      The UCMJ itself contains very, very clear rules that forbid torture of prisoners and provide for prosecution of military officers or other federal officials who torture or murder military prisoners or who murder noncombatants who fall under military authority, notably people in war zones.

      Over the years, the UCMJ has been used to prosecute and convict many members of the US military who have murdered or tortured captured prisoners or who have murdered civilians.

      Hold that thought and remember that under US law, the illegal acts, especially the criminal acts, of military and civilian officers and officials are not protected by the blanket shield that prevents people from suing for civil damages (money) that federal officials might cause in the course of their legal, official duties.

      Remember also that under US and English laws, people who engage in a conspiracy to commit a crime, whether it is a large-scale financial fraud, an organized crime prostitution racket, a murder-for-hire scheme, or an organized conspiracy to torture and murder prisoners of war or civilians detained in war zones are equally guilty of the cries committed.

      In other words, a Mafia godfather can be tried, convicted and executed for murders committed by the trigger men he commands.

      By the same token, a corrupt federal civilian official, up to and including a current or former President of the US, could be tried, convicted and potentially executed for masterminding a scheme to torture and murder people, including people here in the US or abroad, of whatever nationality.

      The point here, of course, is that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, the previous president and vice president, stand at grave risk of prosecution in the US courts.

      Those two men had better hope they get prosecuted under federal law.

      Because if the currently ongoing US Justice Department investigation of the multiple cases of torture and murder that those two men have been accused of ordering doesn’t meet international standards, G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney face prosecution either in the courts of European countries that have already convicted US civilian intelligence officials of violating their national laws, or in international courts.

      As you may have gathered, almost all murder cases in the US arise in the state courts.

      Note that the courts in Italy already have convicted several CIA officers of kidnapping as a result of their activities under the CIA ‘special rendition” program.

      The Italian judiciary has asked the Italian Foreign Ministry to extradite those US citizens. The Italian Foreign Ministry appears unwilling to take that step, and the US courts might very well deny an extradition request.

      But the convictions and sentences by the Italian courts still are hanging over the heads of those US intelligence officers, who could be arrested if they go to Italy or to a third country with which Italy as an extratdition treaty. Italy likely has extradition treaties with the vast majority of other countries, including the US.

      The special rendition, or CIA/White House kidnapping, program called for CIA officers to abduct al Quaeda militants overseas and hold them in secret prisons.

      That same Italian court case also led to the conviction of two Italian government intelligence agents who helped the CIA agents in those kidnappings/renditions.

      Just this past year, the US Justice Department brought a murder case in the federal courts in Florida against a Liberian government official who had commanded a torture operation in Liberia.

      That case started in the last two years of the G.W. Bush presidential administration, during which the Justice Department had effectively shut down its informal links with the White House and National Security Council officials who operated the torture/waterboarding program that Bush and Cheney personally built and operated via the Pentagon and the CIA.

      So, now, to circle back to DC law: even though the DC statute laws, passed by the city council, signed by the mayor, and approved by the US Congress, do not include a death penalty, there have been a handful of incidents under which the prosecuting attorneys in this city have threatened to charge an individual with capital [death penalty-eligible] murder under parallel federal laws.

      In the one notable case when that happened, the accused man avoided the capital murder trial by pleading guilty to a lesser crime that still carried a life sentence.

      This type of US legal system applies in some other territories and possessions that also don’t have statehood. Puerto Rico, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands are the most notable examples.

      Getting back to the question of the photographs of the medical students, at long last, note that in all areas subject to US law, including naval ships afloat and even spacecraft outside the atmosphere, activities related to desecrating human remains are illegal.

      For example, it is illegal to conduct medical experiments or surgeries on dead people. The penalties could include fines and imprisonment under state law.

      A more likely and more prompt consequence of such violations would be the immediate suspension of any medical licenses and expulsion from medical school.

      Nonetheless, there’s something about the process of educating very intelligent young men and women in medical colleges that seems to elicit the kind of ghoulish jokes that the men and women in the photographs were playing.

      Medical professors and medical schools strictly regulate and supervise the handling of human remains because this type of psychological reaction — joking about matters that are so serious that it’s almost impossible to think about them sensibly — seems to be a normal risk that people experience in the process.

      Joking thoughts about the preposterous reality of death riddle the human record back to the days when William Shakespeare wrote Hamlet, in the Elizabethan Age, some 500 years ago. Just check Hamlet’s conversation with the gravedigger, which has a “gallows humor” aspect.

      Having said that, the British professor’s take on this is correct. Even those these reactions, which I believe are a sort of psychological defense mechanism against the reality of our own mortality, are common reactions, they are still completely unacceptable.

      The adults are in charge.

      There is an adage in China, I’m told, that the laws sleeps but it never dies.

      Those medical students better watch out, because it’s possible that their professors and deans will make an example of one or more of them by expelling them from the school so as to serve as a warning to all current and future students.

      George W. Bush and Dick Cheney had better watch out as well.

      US Attorney General Eric Holder now is supervising an extensive investigation of the various and widely-known crimes that those two men committed when they were in office.

      Between the two of them, Bush and Cheney were arrested by the US police five separate times, for crimes like drunk driving, long before they worked in the White House.

      The next time they’re arrested, they may go away for a long, long time indeed.

      If they do, and I hope they do, their imprisonment will serve as a warning to all future US presidents and vice presidents.

      Nobody in this country is above the law.

  25. I have seen worse. BUt i dont think they would care cause they are dead anyway.

  26. HM – obviously it was common for med students to do stuff like this otherwise why did you guys clamp down on it? I mainly heard this referring to 40-50 years ago from my Mum who was a nurse in Australia and the UK.

  27. “Man is a herd animal, after all.”

    We know that the “students” in these pics act like animals. And very sick animals, at that.

  28. This is so wrong, we should always respect the bodies of the people who have donated their remains for the purpose of a younger generation learning. In American medical schools it is traditional to write letters thanking the families of the deceased and to treat the body with respect. Another thing…do they have any idea how EXPENSIVE skeletons, bones and models are?! Its in $$$$$!

    • “In American mdeical schools…”

      This behavior is certainly not limited to “Chinese medical schools”. It’s disrespectful and shocking in any medical school anywhere in the world.

      What are you insinuating?

  29. but i think it’s not abnormal because they study Medical Science.

  30. Reminds me of a Grey’s Anatomy episode where the residents were fighting to get human corpses to practice on…

    It is disgusting that they are “playing” (posing and taking pictures) with the human bones. The bones are provided for them to help them study for their future careers as doctors HELPING people. This disrespect is in no way helping anyone.

  31. As long as they don’t treat the living like this too. -.-b

    Judging by how Chinese hospitals operate these days, I worry about having a good doctor while living than my bones being toyed with after I am dead.

  32. well they should all move to Australia! God knows they can take it one step up and start disrespecting the patients. Then they’ll fit right in with the rest of our douche bag doctors.

  33. This really doesn’t only happen in China, I’ve heard similar stories even at my university. These people are just purely immature. I hope eventually they’ll appreciate the opportunity…

  34. Dead people are not people. Bones and corpses are just objects. The only possible transgression here is the rough handling of an expensive commodity, but really, who would get riled up over that?

  35. much, much (and trust me) worse things went at hmm… one of the UC med-schools, guess which one

  36. The students are very bold but they also dun’t respect the dead..

  37. Quote:”If this kind of students graduate, work in the health care industry, would you be willing to let them treat you?”

    It is my mission in life to have those three female students in the photo examine me.

  38. How do you know these are human bones. Could be from apes. So the kids monkey around a bit.

  39. When you’re dead you’re dead.
    How can you be disrespectful of someone who’s no longer there?
    When I was at med school at Cambridge (UK) in 1972, there was certainly a fair bit of this kind of behaviour: yup a way of making it OK to deal with old dead people, which is pretty confronting when as a young person you are seeing death for the first time. One fella used to grease his boots with human fat…. it was going to the incinerator, so why not?
    He’s been respected by ( and respectful of his live) patients for many years now.
    At least these med students are learning anatomy, something that graduate med students from the new 4 yr med schools in Oz don’t seem to get much of these days, most don’t go near a dissecting room….

  40. Ha, these morons actually took pictures of this and put them on the internet? They deserve to be thrown out of that school, if not for their conduct, then for their stupidity.

    I don’t care for this “when you’re dead, you’re dead” stuff. There’s a reason we have funerals and bury bodies rather than just dumping them in mass graves or burning them.

  41. My brother went to George Washington University just 6 years ago, and this is pretty common. Immature? yes. Helpful to help students cope with a terrifying experience? yes. Should be photographed and placed on a blog? no. Should be criticized? Meh.

  42. !一定要好好言教这些小子!shit!i cantimagine!

  43. bunch of fucking weirdos playing with human remains.. let’s fucking execute all of them.

  44. OH PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!! GIVE ME A BRAKE !

    THESE ARE DEAD PEOPLE BONES !
    NO DISRESPECT ! WHY DISRESPECT ?? The soul is not there anymore, is in another dimention, very far way gone !
    Do you care about your old rag clothes ? when you get new ones ? So why care for bones ? For old rag clothes of the soul !YOU all PEOPLE wake up !!! Please wake up !
    You must care for the living, for the people next to you and the ones that need help, You must care for the animals that you eat, hurt and abandon and make their lives miserable.
    WAKE UP HUMANS OF THIS PLANET ! Worrie about the living planet ! Nature, humans and animals ! not dead people´s bones. They are gone !!!!

  45. hahaha was kinda amusing~~who cares probally only THEIR ancesssters? huhu

    and if they was my corpse i wouldnt care less cos im already dead to me body is nothing when u die..ur soul fucks awayy in heaven ^^

  46. Ewwww! I’ll never donate my body to science!

    • You lot are making a big fuss out of nothing and I do agree it is done everywhere around the world. I knew medical students in Germany, France and Ireland and all told me they were doing the same /had done the same things. Now they are proper doctors, nurses and have deep respect for human life believe me.

      There also are cases of “hazing” like putting a cut off hand in the beds of students and this actually is more detrimental. Some have been shocked enough to leave medical school especially when they had been there only a few days.

      Students are still young and want to amuse themselves. GET OVER IT. They have to dissassociate their feelings in order to be proper doctors later on. Do you want to go to the hospital with a broken arm and a doctor fainting at the sight of it ?
      Medical people have to have a strong stomach and remain cool in all situations especially in ER.

      I would worry more about students shrieking with disgust or vomitting at the sight of …bones ! They would never make it !

      It is a way to cope ! Don’t you know that people who have AIDS come up with the worst jokes about their condition ? It is to alleviate their suffering. But of course if someone else would tell those jokes..that would not do !

      Policemen, psychiatrists , all people dealing with people think up of the worst jokes. It has a palliative effect.

      Basic human psychology.

  47. Another med student here.

    Yes, we do this shit all the time, last sem with the bones as drumsticks, paperweights, etc to play with while listening to the theory part of the lecture, (I also did the skull hat thing) and this sem with skin and some organs, especially the lungs! the old people’s lungs are kind of hard and not so fun to play with, but a child cadaver’s lungs feel so slippery and soft and jiggly like it’s made of jello- especially fun to toss around. Surprisingly super resilient too; wonders of the human body right here.

    Do the instructors care? No they don’t. They were actually especially pleased when we would play with them out of our own volition (without damaging them!) because it helps A LOT with the learning process. As one of my best anatomy professors used to say: “Laugh now, remember tomorrow.” And I did. At least for last sem’s finals.

    Anyway if we’re just going by the reactions of my classmates, half started anatomy thinking it’s disrespectful and wouldn’t do anything to “slight” the body, and the other half just went in trying to learn while having fun. After one sem, the conservative half converted.

    Naysayers, DEAL WITH IT.

  48. You people are sick, no respect for the dead may the spirits of the bodies you desecrated haunt you for ever more!

  49. I see…

    This is originally not a big deal anywhere in the world, however as these are Chinese people, then we must act with stern and civilized disgust. Yes, what stupid barbarians compare to us civilized and smart people. Must not let any chance of insulting Chinese slip away.

  50. Its more like they are med students in universities. Well, its not something they would get a jail sentence for but you would’ve thought they would be smarter. I honestly want to applaud the guy who upload all these photos, did he want to get everyone into shit or what? =]

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