Chinese Encouraged To Emigrate To Defeat Foreigners

Nationalism and Racism, the Making of a Fabricated Story

A recent post titled “My British wife and I had 10 children! All for the resurgence of the Chinese nation! (family photos included)” have been spreading around the Chinese online community. The post and the attached photo purportedly described the life of an Overseas Chinese, who along with his British wife raised 10 children for the sake of the Chinese nation. The author named “海外再造中华” rallied against the “white people” dominating the world and criticized the “One Child Policy” in restricting Chinese population growth, while advocating that the only way out for the Chinese people is to emigrate and settle across the globe.

In actuality, the photos posted were taken from this Daily Mail article concerning the story of Jay Wong and Rachael Savory, a couple who had to put off marriage time and time again due to having so many children. Thus, the Chinese article was a blatant alteration of the original story and photos to further the author’s own views. Some of the author’s opinions reflected racist views akin to the Lebensraum Policy of Nazi Germany, but most can probably be interpreted as satire against the demographic problems and policies in China. Not surprisingly, some of his posts were subsequently harmonized but many still remain.

From NetEase:

My British wife and I had 10 children! All for the resurgence of the Chinese nation! (family photos included)

I am an overseas Chinese, graduated college during the 80′s, found a job in a foreign trade company and traveled to dozens of countries in Africa and Latin America. Obtained my master’s in France in 1993, afterwards married and had children here. Grew up in the foothills of Lushan [Hunan?], studied amidst the beauty of Yanyuan, Aiwan Pavilion, Nameless Lake, and Boya Tower [PKU?], all of which I treasure in my heart. So often do I dream of returning to Yanyuan, dream of returning to that ideal time! My age and life story encompass more than the typical fenqing, yet persistently I still think of the future and destiny of the Chinese race.

I want to talk about something that is a hundred times more important than the unification of Taiwan: emigration abroad, the One child Policy, and the remaking of the Chinese nation.

Those who have been outside the country know that the world since the 17th century had been dominated by white people. 30% of the world composed of Whites of European ancestry directly controls 60% of the world’s land: Europe, all of Russia, all of America, all of Australia, parts of Africa. Also, through the use of European languages (English, French, and Russian) and Christian beliefs, [they] indirectly control 20% of the world: large parts of Africa, parts of the Middle East, parts of Central Asia, and parts of East Asia.

Whites “discovered” America, Australia, and Siberia in the 17th century. The local natives did not want their passport visas, so they killed 90% of the native people, and then constructed “democratic” nations! But now when Chinese people want to go abroad they need passport visas, or else they would be “illegal” immigrants! So Chinese people have no choice but to go through the One Child Policy at home! What sorrow!

I am not a racist, and not a radical chauvinist, but the Western treatment of Chinese is too brutal!

The road to the rise of the Chinese nation in the future must involve emigration of people abroad!

——

Liberals, everyday you talk about how the system of governance is bad, and then you should emigrate! Go to the country you love!
Leftists, stop saying you speak for the poor and weak, go find ways to let the unemployed and farmers emigrate!
Rightists, stop talking about competition and survival of the fittest, go compete abroad!
Henan people, you are good at having kids, stop having them at home, and go abroad!
Hunan people, you are good at politics, stop playing at home, go play foreigners!
Dongbei people, you are good at picking fights, stop fighting at home, and go fight laowais!
Hong Kong/Guangdong people, you are good at taking mistresses, stop taking them at home, go abroad and take laowais!
Sichuan/Guangxi people, you are good at fighting, stop fighting at home, and go fight laowais!
Taiwan people, you want to declare independence, stop bickering at home, go abroad and declare independence!

Chinese people, stop internal divisions, we must all step out into the world, for the future of our people; must have the world view, to emigrate abroad!

Rebuild the Chinese nation is our duty! We will definitely defeat the foreigner’s civilization and rebuilt the Great China!

– An Overseas Chinese near the Seine River in Paris

Comments on NetEase:

linhuer:

Kao, lou zhu you are so niu bi.
You are definitely my idol.

hello.lisa:

LZ‘s logic is ludicrous, and surprise me is that so many netizens support you. This is the biggest joke on earth, how do you suppose it will revive China???
If all the men in China are like you then the Chinese nation is over!!!

It appears that lou zhu is a man, if you take the opposite view, if it was a girl who had 10 children with a laowai do you think so many netizens will support this???

You are the male immigrant, wife is a foreigner, children are foreign citizens growing up abroad, and I don’t think these kids will have any feeling for China after they grow up! Instead, it is China giving the genes of its best men to laowai to raise more advantageous future generations, ultimately increasing the possibility of them coming to oppress China in the future in doing so.

The revival of China and the Chinese man having kids with laowai are two completely unrelated things. That said, I feel sorry for your wife (since this post is just to show off, I don’t see you marrying your wife out of love, you’re just using her and it disgust me). At the same time I feel sorry for Chinese men who have this type of views!

书湄:

Don’t have any environmental awareness, the earth already has so many people, yet you still keep having kids, the destruction of the planet is because of people like you.

没事找抽:

Give me one girl and I can create a whole race of people!

山东青岛网友:

Just another SB

shanFC:

Niu, we can’t even have two [kids]!

Comments on Tianya:

小Yoo:

LZ good thing you are in England, if you are in China you be fined until you are dead.

enjoyzent:

SF! [sofa?]I find it hard to accept LZ‘s reasoning and realistic aims.

niffish:

Awesome!
Lou zhu is so strong, one more and you’ll have a football team.

xkorea:

What LZ said actually makes a lot of sense!
Cultural Harmony is the Chinese nation’s eternal ambition.
Ding.
Even Jackie Chan said Shanghainese women need to marry more foreigners, in order to assimilate more westerners.

中山火车站:

Why don’t mixed blood children have Asian traits? LZ‘s genes are not as strong as your wife!
Although I think I saw these pictures somewhere else.

一只老鼠:

Your wife is so pitiful…have to spend 90 month with a big belly…

Rebuild the Chinese nation. Rebuild the Great China. chinaSMACK personals.

288 Comments

  1. It’s sad how racist people can be.

    Not to mention how bad people’s logic can be.

    If the rolls were reversed (Chinese girl British guy) everyone would be outraged.

    • Its because men can’t be golddiggers.

      • I know several.

        For Your Information, If an average man doesn’t mind a little baggage (divorced with a kid) they can dig just as well as any woman around.

        I personally know two teachers that married very rich women in China. They didn’t mind taking care of a kid all the sudden. Now they’re like house husbands, and they love it.

      • Oh yes they can. Just look at Senator Kerry for example.

    • ur reasoning and logic is incredible:

      how can u know Every one will get outraged if it is a Chiense woman married to a British guy?

      In fact, it’s much much more common Chinese women marry Foreigners…We Chinese are well accustomed to it.

      quote:

      It’s sad how racist people can be.

      Not to mention how bad people’s logic can be.

      If the rolls were reversed (Chinese girl British guy) everyone would be outraged.

      end of quote.

      • You’re right. Not literally everyone, but it is arguable that a lot of Chinese men and Chinese male netizens would be outraged, just like a lot of men of other ethnicities and races, especially those belonging to poorer, less-developed societies, tend to feel bitter when a member of the dominant white-civilization is with one of “their” women.

        That said, I think the whole male-female dichotomy present in the comments (including the original Chinese comments, hello.lisa being the example) is a bit interesting, showing how people reacted to the photo. If you read the original post’s text, I don’t think there’s any specific mention of encouraging only Chinese MEN. It seems to encourage Chinese people in GENERAL to emigrate. It’s just that the photo and text represents the poster as male.

        That said, I have a hard time imagining Chinese women encouraging other Chinese to go forth and rebuild the Chinese nation through reproduction.

  2. Even if this guy’s story was real, if these kids grew up in a Western country, went to schools that spoke a European language and were generally immersed in Western culture, they’d be white for all intents and purposes. Men like Mr Wong won’t make Europe any more Chinese than the Huns and the Avars made it Mongolian. Go to Sydney or LA, most locally born Chinese, even full blooded Chinese can’t speak Chinese for shit.

  3. I think I see the new Jon & Kate.

  4. Not Dr Swifts ” A Modest Proposal”, but it
    did make me laugh.

  5. Oh wow, that is fucking ridiculous. We live in a 21st century world and there’s no need for such racist, xenophobic and jingoistic bullshit.

    I think China still has a lot to learn when it comes to equality and treating people of different ethnic backgrounds with respect.

    I wish Mr Wong and his family all the best.

    • Woah, I’m sure that isn’t the mentality of all Chinese people. There’s good and bad people. Of the 1.4ish billion people, there’s bound to be the despicable and admirable.

    • Here’s a fun fact to remember too though, racism is double-edged. Foreigner worship is just as bad as xenophobia. People need to maintain a balance. I know it isn’t easy. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done.

    • Uh huh. You need to get out more. Please don’t pretend there’s no racism and xenophobism in the rest of world, including Europe and America. Let’s be real here. There’s a staggering number of white supremacist groups and hate crimes in the USA. This just proves that China and the Western world are more similar than they know.

      • Hold on “staggering”? There are a shit ton of highly publicized groups in the US and Europe. I wrote several papers on the subject so I had to do a ton of research (specifically Neo-Nazism in the world post-Cold War to the late 90′s). These groups represent a hardcore group who feel no need to hide their racism. However their numbers tend to be extremely small and isolated. As for hate crimes, what is truly a “hate crime” of the Mathew Shepard variety is quite debateable.
        Hate groups are easy to track and study like white elephants they tend to stick out. What should be the concern of people is really an acceptance in popular discourse of the discrimination and degradation of other races and ethnic groups. A Chinese person publishing an article on Lebansbraun and garnering a ton of public support(this is not an example) is much more scary than six fatass rednecks drinking beer in the woods wearing camo’s and talking about a monkey in the white house.

  6. NuwayFollowMeeeeeeInsteeed

    this is stupid. Heyey.

  7. Like Pusan Playa said, if this ever happened all you would get are literal “banana” republics.

  8. Half bloods are awful to have…. especially when they are half euro or western.

    The kids will most likely turn out to be dumb asses, Ive seen many weird looking faces, it gets more obvious as they grow older.

    I wouldn’t mind having fun in the bedroom with one of them.(of course someone good looking, unlike her)
    But when it comes to making offsprings I’d stick with my own Asian gene pool.

  9. China has always “expanded” like this. Send a ton of people into some nearby region, overwhelm/marginalize the locals, intermarry, then claim land as our own. It’s like a non-violent form of conquest. I don’t think it’s necessary today though, we’re already the largest ethnic group. The author claiming that whites make up 30% of the world’s population is just plain wrong.

    I’d probably marry another Chinese. Something about miscegenation really pisses people off, even you white folk with all your political correctness can’t deny that you feel something when you see an interracial couple. It’s the the same with everyone, Asians are just more honest about it.

    But what difference does it make? “White” countries have such tolerant immigration policies that there’s no way they’d stay “white” for much longer. 100, 200 years? It’d be nothing but brown people and East Asians left.

    • I’m having a hard time finding any sort of coherent point from this rambling nonsense you posted here.

      Nothing of what you said is founded in any sort of logical or reasonable basis.

      • I agree his comment was a bit taunting (“whities, your days are numbered anyway!”) but how do you reckon that none of what he said is founded in any logical or reasonable basis?

        Conquest through interbreeding? True. It’s not always pre-meditated “conquest” either. Sometimes it’s just what happens when a tribe expands and interbreeds with neighboring tribes.

        White folks still harboring deep-seated misgivings about interracial relationships despite public political correctness? Also true. Not of everyone, but of many, definitely.

        Many “white” countries having tolerant immigration policies? Arguable true too. This issue is particularly big in Europe, where a lot of the more nationalistic/racist locals feel resentment towards the influx of “brown” immigrants who they fear reproduce at higher rates than themselves.

        These are all logical and reasonable. But yeah, he comment was worded in a way that might worry some white people.

  10. I guess we better get ready ,if this logic prevails it will be standing room only in the near future.

  11. wahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha

  12. This happens in areas with poor TV signal.

  13. Wow, the assimilation process that the Chinese have been using in Xinjiang and Tibet to suppress minorities is now being turned into a global strategy. In the next millennium, China will rule the world if we do not take the yellow fear seriously

    • look,in your logic, Chinese doesn’t do this assimilation-suppression thing more than you white people. there are hybrids of white and black, white and brown, white and yellow….everywhere all over the world but you hardly see any hybrids of yellow with other colors, and that is a simple and straight evidence to show how you white people oppressed the whole world with your annoying self-center-ism

  14. From now on , I decide to quit masturbating and save all my tadpoles to conqure the whole world, starting from America. So where is my Americunt? :)

  15. im embarrassed at this overseas chinese.i do not understand why china has such an idiot.use an offensive chinese words to him,”you are a sha b(stupid cunt)!!”there are many people here in china object one child policy,including me,all we know that that policy severely violates the basic human rights.but not like you,an insane guy,we have a clear mind.ive been always said,”china is china,west is west.”we should learn from each other,but we china cant lose our own racial characters.the west has an advantaged technology we should learn from,but we should not learn their social etiquette(we have a complete social cultures of our own).obviously,this chinese man has a great proud that he has been abroad,and he thought he is the smartest man in the planet.poooh…genuine chinese look down on you such a shit!(中国人严重鄙视你!)

  16. He’s got a big family, nice wife and works hard to support them. Chinese people are crabs in a bucket. One gets out and the rest try to pull him down.

    • It’s the tall poppy syndrome. Don’t stand out from the crowd, don’t be an individual, don’t be outspoken! Just follow the herd off the edge baby, mei ban fa!

  17. Chinese trolls are truly epic… even reaching overseas to the Americans.

  18. The comment about how the wife’s gotta be from Newcastle? WTF??? For anyone who’s lived in England, Essex girls are the REAL sluts, I’ve never heard of anything about Newcastle girls????????

    And interracial girls are so hot, I don’t get why people are ragging on the kids, they will grow up to be beautiful!

    If you don’t believe me about interracial girls go to Brazil! @_@

  19. The comments here show a lot about the fears of western people.

    • Don’t worry, it’s unlikely that that the Chinese internet trolls’ level of insecure will ever match that of the White folks who used to lynch blacks for sleeping with fellow white womenz.

      • just a reminder to the “men” (lolz) of China: Lou Jing’s momma prefers the larginess of superior dark sausageseses. (use Popeye voice)

        • Yeah yeah. Size is certainly an important thing, but if that’s the only thing someone/race/culture can be proud of then it’s kinda sad. It’s also too bad that in Asia (and most of the world, unfortunately) money comes way before size of penii. Hence the hottest asian womenz you see are usually with fat dorky asian men with glasses in their porsches and bimmers.

  20. Not to burst anyone’s dreams. But anyone wonder why some of the girls have blond hair? Or doesn’t anyone do simple biology these days.

    Only hypothesis comes to mind that doesn’t dispose of this as nonsense, is he is eating someone else’s leftovers. Some dream.

  21. hi I AM BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    HEY BUNCH OF LAOWAIS, want to see something impossible?
    try to get a chinese green card or long-term residence permit and you will DIE TRYING.

  22. 1000 replies, I guarantee it.

  23. This post will attract people from stormfront. White pride needs to be defended verbally.

    • That would be good actually, because then some other Chinese bloggers can just take the racist quotes from the whities and then translate them into Chinese and post them somewhere. You will get thousands of “WTF these whities are such racists” type of messages. Instant traffic!

  24. Hahaha. I lol at all these butthurt laowai comments. Mister fengqing hit a nerve?

    Fact is: What he’s saying is a realistic and viable global strategy, and already in motion, even without the CCP actively supporting it.

    Your solution: Deport and gas us all to death, Arbeit macht frei-style, or just prepare for assimilation.

  25. That poor China man with his little prick is not f*cking a white woman; he’s screwing mother Earth and all if her children! That said, nationalism and patriotism are the sure signs of human ignorance – ultimately, there will be one human race on earth IF she manages to survive our brutal rape and we survive our self-extinction! 不是每一个中国人都是愚么昧的。

  26. This site obviously attract white underclass. Check this out.

    http://www.quantcast.com/chinasmack.com

    70% whites with no college education and low income.

    • LOL I bet most of them are Engrish/Enga-lish teachers. The only requirement for that job in China is that you are white.

    • I dare you to explain how Quantcast gathers its statistical and demographic data. It’s amazing how readily some people accept numbers without considering the even glaringly obvious methodological black boxes.

      But I wouldn’t be surprised that an English website with salacious content wouldn’t capture the attention of a healthy majority of English readers: white underclass.

        • Yes, I know how Quantcast measures its data, I’m asking IC to explain how he is so certain about Quantcast metrics spporting his conclusion. This is more about web geekery than about chinaSMACK though, and it’s about the black box of demographic data collection.

          Some examples, from your own link:

          When it comes to Quantcast’s demographic figures, it is important to note first of all that all such data is based solely on data inputs from the USA.

          Is chinaSMACK’s audience all from the US? If it isn’t, how reliable is Quantcast’s DEMOGRAPHIC data for those accessing chinaSMACK from outside of the US?

          Creaders.net, in comparison, has like 85% (I think that’s what it claimed) of its readership in the US, mostly immigrant Chinese. That’s why H-1B news items are like 1/3 of its news headlines.

          It goes back to census level visibility of the internet, more panels, and profiling, and means and medians, and a bunch of other high-falutin’, greek-letter writin’, snore inducin’ math. One specific way Quantcast develops audience profiles is that they track back IP addresses to postcodes, and tally this information against Census data to establish key demographic benchmarks.

          Here’s the black box. Demographic data is derived indirectly. There are correlations in this method, yes, but the confounding factos and margin of errors are huge, huge compared to say actual individual polling.

          My point is that Quantcast isn’t a reliable source for demographic data with websites that have audience profiles beyond the US, just like Compete isn’t a good website for even traffic data for websites with audiences beyond the US. Always take it with a grain of salt, and be very careful when trying to use it to advance an argument, like IC did.

          • The exact details of how Demographics data are analyzed by the internet market research firms are proprietary, so I doubt it that you will be able to find anyone or whitepapers which will explain the process.

            But it’s easy to guess some of the approaches which people can take to gather this info. The article which I linked mentioned something about inserting cookies which tracks where people go to buy stuff online. The larger internet stores all pay consulting firms and survey companies routinely to gather customer demographic data. These consulting/survey firms then sell the data to other customers/marketers. My guess is that by tracking where users go to shopping and then figuring out the average income of these who shop at these sites, you can then statistically estimate the networth, age, income etc. of web users.

            This approach does make it difficult to estimate the demographics of international visitors. However, China does command the largest internet presence in the world and is the hot spot for internet market research today. So I would not be that surprised if services like Quantcast do contain some relevant, if not limited info on Chinese users.

            But at the end of the day, would you not agree that the numbers provided by Quantcast look to be in the ball park? By looking at the content and quality of messages posted here, it’s pretty easy to conclude this website caters to mostly young expats or people with Chinese ancestry. Personally I would guess that most people here are either college students with no income, engrish teachers with low income, or low level technicians who are stationed in China shor term. amirite?

          • LOLZ, as a web geek, I too can make educated guesses as to how they obtain their data, but my point remains, right? The demographic data is derived indirectly and there are huge confounding factors and margins of error, not to mention that, quite simply, IC is using data Quantcast explicitly says is limited to US audiences to generalize the worldwide audience of chinaSMACK. He also uses it to prop up an inappropriate comparison with Creaders.net.

            But at the end of the day, would you not agree that the numbers provided by Quantcast look to be in the ball park?

            That depends on my subjective preconceptions of what a “white underclass” looks like. I’m just not interested in speculating or criticizing it beyond vocally expressing how much stupidity does indeed dominate most of the comments here.

            Personally I would guess that most people here are either college students with no income, engrish teachers with low income, or low level technicians who are stationed in China shor term. amirite?

            You’re free to speculate. I try to discuss the points people bring up and argue, and try to avoid falling into the trap of discussing how a person’s background, race, ethnicity, nationality, etc. predisposes them to making or arguing those points. There’s enough “oh, you would say that because your X” on here as it is.

  27. Real Asian site attracts Asians like this highly educated upper middle class.

    http://www.quantcast.com/creaders.net

  28. This thread has the potential to beat the lou jing oriental angel thread.

    The amount of insecure white people on this site, I am waiting for 1k + comments on this. ^^

    • nah. its just natural for any race to feel insecure when male alien folks are invading your Lebensraum, taking away your wifes and procreating by spreading their alien genes in your genepool.

      In the world of the animals, this would be a reason to kill the intruder.

      this insecurity is nothing wrong about, since it just shows how animal-like humans still are in reality, despite their all-hailed social and philosophical achievements of ‘tolerance’, ‘democracy’ and ‘openness’.
      When someone is threatened in this very natural and basic area of life, noone will feel secure.

      • “In the world of the animals, this would be a reason to kill the intruder.”

        No. Animals don’t really distinguish one another by genotype. The hostility you mention occurs only on an individual basis – e.g. A lion will kill the cubs within a pride if there isn’t another lion leading the pride and mated to the lionesses. It doesn’t care about the “race” of the other Lion, it only sees potential competitors with its own genetic progeny, and that’s still on a theoretical evolutionary level.

        Actual animals just do what comes naturally to them, and I those instincts don’t include special treatment of other members of its species based on superficial differences in hair colour or facial structure.

  29. is the social welfare system in england for that matter that good? is this guy twisting the lyrics of certain pro commie songs to benefit his social welfare benefits of having the old hussy pop kids that will probably star in a Japanese AV movie like ms Maria Ozawa (by the way, smoking hot!)

    i can see this guy now humming instead of 社会主义好,社会主义好! to something like this “社会福利好,社会福利好“!

  30. I predict (and hope) that someday the world will be one mixed race. Interacial babies are the most beautiful, and the world will become filled with more and more beautiful people as the races get mixed together.
    Get out there and mix it up people!

  31. First of all… how can a chinese think they can marry a foreign and then create an “insurection” PFFFFFFF, please…
    Secondly, only open minded chinese who are not brainwashed by the gov. can marry foreigns :D

    • You are thinking too primitive and too direct bro. how typical for a laowei who is unknown to the refined methods of a cultivied civilisation.

      there’s no need for a ‘insurection’, when the chinese culture and the chinese way of thinking speads within a foreign country and overtakes everything, from economy to politics.

      secondly, I’ve never understood the concept of ‘brainwashing by the ccp’… if you know ccp propaganda, you will notice how stupid, low quality, bad and cliche it’s made. noone who has a brain would be able to get ‘brainwashed’ by this stupid shit.

      • Man…

        U insulted dark skin (60% of world pop)
        Now white people

        U ll need leonidas and his 299 very soon if u keep going like this…

        Look for peace not for assimilation or (better) revenge! ;-)

        otherwise 88992829292 Leonidas’s tel number! ;-)

      • Then most chinese don’t have a brain

      • We could consider even to take ur all land…

        Ops.. sorry! It is almost all destroyed by u…

        Ok peace man! U stay there we stay at our home!

        Peace and love and enjoy ur superiority and civilization!

        In a few year when u will need desperately for superio and more civilizated water just give us a call…

        Ok?

        ps: for clean air either! ;-)

      • Hongjian,

        I’ve never understood the concept of ‘brainwashing by the ccp’… if you know ccp propaganda, you will notice how stupid, low quality, bad and cliche it’s made. noone who has a brain would be able to get ‘brainwashed’ by this stupid shit.

        You’re a hoot but you’re not stupid, that much I know, which is why I have to ask if you seriously “never understood” the concept of “brainwashing by the CCP”. Don’t forget, there are a lot of stupid people in this world, far more than smart ones. It is the stupid majority that makes certain members of the intelligent minority dangerous.

        • Kai,

          Just because he can spout historical facts and come up with a less than conventional point of view doesn’t mean Hongjian is intelligent. He belongs to the extra special dangerously stupid minority. Read his comment below. I hope you’ll stop being nice to him.

  32. hongjian, trust me theres quite a few who are into it and buy into it, they usually are members of the youth league or are currently in power and chasing women whose name is haizao

  33. I’d like to see DNA tests.

  34. Chinese men are brave strong and have big dicks , they are smart as well developers of great company come from china like BMW Apple, Lenovo ops that is from IBM hmmmmmm name 1 chinese international brand that is not shit ? Just one chinese men is so clever Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm No 1 hahahahahahaha

  35. i love this post!

  36. Isn’t this satire? Look at the age of the parents. How could they have had all these kids themselves? Good wind-up, though.

  37. See, I told you all, Chinese are damn racist.

    “Rebuild the Chinese nation is our duty! We will definitely defeat the foreigner’s civilization and rebuilt the Great China!”

    Ya right, good luck dude.

  38. In many parts of Southern California, Northern California, Melbourne, and Toronto, Chinese have pretty much “defeated the laowais”. You can see even more evidence of this if you just walk onto the campus of UCLA or UCBerkeley.

    We may or may not have ties to the ccp or mafia. Most of us lead normal lives like white people and participate in the local politics or elections. Chopsticks are used on a daily basis when we eat everything from noodles to french fries. At home-中文英文都可以啊。 We date white, black, latino, Filipino, Thai, Korean, Vietnamese or Japanese women and make mixed race kids with the people we love.

    The kid that made up this story is actually pretty creative. Like most 愤青, he just has to cut down on playing so much WOW and start doing some exercise. Spending some quality time with some real friends or family would be good too. The same thing goes for a lot of you that are possibly reading my post.

  39. Ah, it’s too late for the Chinese to assimilate Europe into Chinese culture.

    What was the Name of that Drug Dealer, that “British” guy? Akmal Shaikh? Yeah, sounds very British/European.

    So, (Western) Europe is already part of the Islamic World. Just look at a Kindergarten in Berlin, Frankfurt, Düsseldorf or elsewhere.

  40. I hope the article on NetEase was satire.
    The Wong family in the real Daily Mail article seems both committed and pleasant (though I think they need work on their planning skills).

    When my wife and I married 30 years ago, black/white marriages were still a big thing in the US. (Such marriages only became legal in the south in 1975) We gave a lot of thought to the cultural and ethnic identities of our children. We realized we could not control how the world saw them or treated them; all we had control over was how we loved them and how we raised them. With a strong enough foundation, they could face anything. We are proud of all three of our children and they face the world with confidence.
    From what I can see of the expressions and body language of the Wong children, I think Mr. & Mrs. Wong are doing and excellent job of instilling the same confidence in their children.
    I wish them well.

  41. 10 kids and they all look like shit . . .

  42. Interesting story, however, wouldn’t Liu Xiaobo’s sentencing of 11 years for Charter 08 be more relevant than a non-conspiracy?

    章诒和
    章诒和的看法:1968年,我以现行反革命罪,判处有期徒刑20年;2009年,刘晓波以煽动颠覆国家政权罪,判处有期徒刑11年。我们都是因言获罪,前后相距四十一载。这种状况不得不使人怀疑:我们的制度,到底改善了多少?我们的社会,究竟进步了没有?

    • chinaSMACK has a general aversion to highly political topics, probably as a precaution against getting caught in the sights of government censors, or because Fauna genuinely finds them boring as she’s said before.

      • That’s true. What does freedom of speech have to do with a website like ChinaSmack, really.

        * Note: some sarcasm added

        • You’re being insensitive to the challenges and considerations a Chinese national like Fauna faces in even running this website. Neither Fauna nor any Chinese national owe it to you to be martyrs for your (AND my) values.

      • Fauna genuinely finds them boring

        Yep, politics and history are sooooo boring that it is not even worth being discussed in the comment section here, am I right?

        • I don’t personally find politics and history to be boring. I’m just pointing out that Fauna has previously, at times, stated that she finds politics to be boring. That’s her opinion and that helps explain what you may or may not expect on chinaSMACK, her website.

          That said, there are actually tons of political and historical posts here by her contributors and herself. I think she just avoids highly sensitive political topics that the CCP government might actually go out of their way to censor and “harmonize”.

          Morry’s comment expressed what I interpreted as his belief that chinaSMACK should post about Liu Xiaobo instead of this “non-conspiracy”. I’m merely explaining why I personally wouldn’t expect chinaSMACK to do that based on what I know about chinaSMACK.

    • BTW, there was an Anticharta made to the Charta 77 as a reaction, where is the one from the CCP?

  43. The funny thing is people now think that most interracial marriages are Western Man and Chinese Woman. This is the case today in China and in the UK. But the couple in the story is more typical of earlier generations. Most interracial marriages in the UK in the past where between Chinese Men and Western women (I can’t say British, because many of the women were Irish). This was the case up until the late 1970s.

    • Though I can not speak to Chinese interracial marriages world wide, in US society about 67% of interracial marriages of all types are combination of non-white husband & white wife.

      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States

        According to US census, Asian wives is the most popular choice amongst white males by far if they decide to go for another race. “Other race” which is made up of non-Asians/Blacks is the most popular choice amongst white females. My guess is that “other races” is made up of mostly hispanics, many of whom consider themselves to be white. In any case, the ratio between AF/WM combo and AM/WF combo is roughly 3:1 today in the US.

        • Thanks for the link.
          I’m sure this is of little interest to most readers here, but when my wife and I married black/white unions were about 3/4 black man/white woman and only 1/4 white man/black woman, or a 3:1 ratio. Now, according the Wikipedia article you linked to, the ratio is about 2:1. (I tend to take Wiki data with a grain of salt.)
          I find it interesting that the census data lists Hispanics as white. Living here in the south, I can tell you white folk don’t consider Hispanics of any hue to be white (I know places Antonio Banderas wouldn’t be served lunch).
          In our experience black women tend to be hostile towards black men who have married white women: they contend that the black man was only collecting a white wife as a trophy. I have no idea how accurate that perception is, but it is fairly widespread in the black community.
          I wonder how prevalent the “trophy” assumption is in other ethnic groups?

          • I personally find it odd the way people view wikipedia. Sure some of the items on it are posted by trolls, I used to do that myself. But then data are usually referenced and if you don’t believe something just click on the original reference yourself.

            That said, I do notice that BW can be very bitchy when talking about their fellow brothers marrying WM. However I am not sure if this is directed towards BM rather than the WW. When reading the discussion about Tiger Woods recently, the BWs (from their pics, anyway) tend to be extremely critical of Wood’s wife, calling her a gold digger, etc, rather than bashing Tiger for his consistent interest in white blonds.

          • LOLZ, I agree. I think a lot of women are more prone to blame other women than men. I’m generalizing here, but I find other women to be the biggest enemy in many women’s eyes. I should throw in some superficial allusion to evolution or something here. LoL…

        • It’s all irrelevant. Doesn’t matter which race the man or woman is from, children will always be 50/50. The primal instinct of “protecting our women” became pointless when we stopped practicing polygamy.

          • Huh? But doesn’t the fact that you, an Asian American male (if that is true), is not that appealing to the members of the opposite sex as a whole in America is at least somewhat troubling? This has nothing to do with “protecting ur womenz” but rather something to do with “how can we Asian males improve our image so we can be more attractive to everybody”.

            The first step of course, is to admit that there is a problem.

          • Maybe if someone spends their days looking at the world through the internet, they would build up such an insecure mindset. It’s not so “troubling” when you’ve gone out into the world, made friends with people of all races, and have had several girlfriends.

  44. I’ll tell my Chinese wife about this article right after I’m done with her.

  45. ..anyone notice how the two oldest kids are nooooot mixed?? just a thought

  46. This is what you get when a Mormon gets busy with a Catholic.

  47. I mean how do you do ?

  48. I live in Canada, and there are more Chinese people in my city than there are white people. Although a large majority of store signs are in Chinese, they don’t seem to be trying to take over the same way the East Indians are doing here. The EIs are building huge temples all over, building schools for only their kind, and won’t allow marriage outside of their community. I’m not the least bit predjudice against any race, I’m predjudice against attitude, and I don’t like the EIs attitude one bit.

    • I don’t think anyone who lives in these ghettos with intentions to take over anyone else, these things are just cultural safe harbors for immigrants. Years ago people in the U.S. worried about Irish immigrants taking over the culture landscape of the country, then it was Eastern Europeans, as immigration patterns shift, so do people’s natural fear for the firmness of one’s cultural identity. I don’t know much about Canada but although the ghettos will remain to newer generation of immigrants, studies show that most immigrant families become acculturated by the third or even the second generation. In the end, no one group will take over Canada rather they will add dimensions to existing Canadian identity.

    • You should speak to the people who used to frequent the “little italy” area in New York City. The Chinese takeover there is almost complete, with most of the Italian stores replaced by the Chinese ones :)

      But then, what is wrong with people trying to preserve their own culture when immigrating to foreign lands? It’s the only the EIs who are building temples/schools over for only their kind and keeping in the marriages; the Jewish, Muslim, Tibetan, Mexician groups all do the same.

      The irony of course is the fact that Chinese are actually very accommodating when it comes to other races/cultures comparing to most other race/cultures, but are being called racists/bigots and xenophobic anyway.

      • LOLZ,

        Of course there are idiots who could call any Chinese person a racist or bigot but I’m pretty certain that the reaction here of calling out Chinese racists and bigots is for the perceieved racist bigoted tone of the article, whether it’s satire or not. It’s not just random. The fact is in the West the popular notion is that most Chinese are generally extremely flexible, aoccomodating, and very effective at assimilating compared to most groups. Few groups have major conflicts with Chinese immigrants. So, hearing that there is a vocal seemingly bigoted minority of Chinese netizens shocks some sheltered Westerners.

  49. In Canada we had a minister of parliament rant about the “Asian invasion” a few years back. She was declared a racist and had to publicly apologize etc. This may or may not have been an important aspect of my habitus (ref Bourdieu 1984) but I married a sweet girl from Harbin, and our kids are gona be both Han and mutt white. Go read Arthur C Clarke’s 3001, this ‘metis’ification of the world is gona spread. Lets go out and create the new elasticities of the world

  50. Sorry if this idea was posted already, but I was too lazy to read through all the posts…

    Anyways, it occurs to me that if you reverse the goal of the post, that is, weakening the nation of China instead of strengthening it, there would be a lot of good arguments to support that view as well.

    It’s just pedantic in the end.

  51. Half Asian in the West never considers themselves as being Asian and as the eventually marry White Westerners,they have no love for the Asian race. The Asian race is slowly diluted out of their blood-line.

  52. “Chinese Encouraged To Emigrate To Defeat Foreigners”

    LOL, China forever with the inferiority complex. We need to go “defeat” other people just so that we can finally feel good about ourselves? Like, that is so lame…

    • This is true. The inferiority complex of the Chinese can be seen pretty much anywhere, just look at idiots who think anything from the “outside” is better. But then again you get all of the non-Chinese people who have the constant urge to talk down the Chinese people so they can feel superior about themselves. That’s not lame?

  53. Yeah right, you are so brave, because you actually dare to marry a foreigner to defeat them.

  54. I think one reason that people object to the siege-mentality that Jones was commenting on is the lack of proportionality. Yes, China was subjected to imperialism and colonialism–this is something that should not have occurred and should never occur again.

    But it also seems that Beijing cynically manipulates and exploits this historical period… Look at a place like Vietnam, or India, or many African states, etc., where 100% of the national territory was lost to European rule for a far longer period than China’s lost..what, ≈10%? of national territory. They suffered far more than China did, yet now many of these states have better relations with Western states and show less tendency to rationlize by reference to the colonial era.

    Was China adversely affected by European colonialism? Absolutely. But Qing incompetence and domestic problems had far more to do with China falling behind in the world than anything any Europeans did. China’s path has always been and will always be determined by the people in China, not outsiders.

    Incidentally, describing the Mao era as ‘closing the country off to figure things out (whatever his ultimate failures might have been)’ seems like a rather bizarre description of that period.

    • Most Chinese doesent blame the past 200 years failure solely on the Western Imperialism. They are aware of the incompetency and backwardness of the late-Qing Dynasty and do know that they are at fault for China’s downfall.
      The question is just, what lessons can be extracted from this historical period, where things happened ‘that shouldn’t have happened’, like you stated it…

      I would say, and this is also the most common opinion of all history-aware Chinese, that China learned something about how the world works during this time.
      They learned about the mercilessness and cruelty of the international politics and how strong countries can treat weaker ones, without any reasoning. They learned the eternal truth of ‘might makes right’.
      Like Machiavelli said, ‘before all, be armed’, the Chinese now know the importance of an aggressive defense-policy and a strong army, and how the lack of it will result into something like the numerous foreign incursions during that time again.
      Chinese simply lost their childlike innocence, being confronted with powers who will invade, rape and exploit you when you are weak, and actually massively profit from it; without a ‘god’ or a ‘buddhist meta-justice’ to punish them for doing something ‘morally bad’

      • I am not sure that the civilisation that produced Sun Tsu’s Art of War and the Thirty-six Strategems, that perfected balance-of-power politics under the Tributary system, that repeatedly conquered neighbouring areas like Xinjiang, Vietnam, etc., needs any help from the white man to ‘lose their childlike innocence’ about the world.
        Chinese civilisation has much to be proud of, both in past and present, without any need to invent a romanticised pre-Opium War era of lost, child-like innocence about the world.

        • Though China was always a war-plagued and very machiavellistic Kingdom before the violent western ‘opening up’, China was never been so much humilated than before.
          They did lost the childlike, innocent thinking, that they are the heavenly middle kingdom though. The centre of the world, with no equals.
          The western imperial powers and especially Japan, who was nothing more than a forgotten vassal before their meiji restauration, showed that China isnt that great anymore.
          So I stand to the statement that China lost its innocence for believing that the babarian world cannot harm it, and that it can remain arrogant and ignorant towards the outside.
          Before this, The british even proposed to trade chinese tea with ships and modern weapons, but the Qing court refused, saying; that ‘a civilized emprie such as the Qing, that already has everything, doesent need babarian weapons and only accepted silver for their Tea, what brought a gigantic trade deficit for the british, and what was one of the main reasons for the Opium War.
          This kind of naiive innocence and arrogance brought the downfall of China and only ended when Imperial soldiers charged with spears towards british musket lines.

          Nowadays, China learned to step down from that self-harming innocence, and will do everything neccessary to take its place in the world.

          • Hongjian,

            Yeah, the Song Dynasty was probably far less humiliated by the Mongols… yeah, yeah, that makes sense…

            or are you one of those people who claim the Mongols are Chinese when it suits your purpose?

          • Initially they were humilated by the Yuan, but after they assimilated the Mongols culturally, it cant be called humilation anymore. Vice-versa would be the case here.

            Also, when the Ming-Dynasty took over, they pushed the invaders out of the country, stomped into Mongolia, killed everyone and burned all their cities down to the ground as revenge. So, this humilation was paid back equally.
            So it wasnt really a humilation, when you took revenge for it. Something China cannot do today in the same manner – too bad. Would be cool to see the Big-ben etc. burning in the night, but at least when investment bankers are jumping from the roofs, and you know that you are the one fueling the crisis, then it is also a pretty satisfacory sight.

          • Hongjian,

            So it was humiliation but then it wasn’t humiliation because they got revenge? Seriously?

            And please, oh delussional one, tell me how you, or anyone, is fueling the “crisis”. Just because you are a giant asshole doesn’t mean it’s such a big deal as to make people kill themselves. Your inane arguments, circular logic, and inordinantly detailed knowledge of ordinance and military hardware might bore them to death, but they won’t jump off a building for that.

          • China is fueling the crisis in the US by continuely lending them money and buy their debts to finance their decadent way of living. And since the US crisis resulted into the world financial crisis, China has a direct influence on it.

            Other than that, you dont seem to have any other arguments here to post, looking at your insults.
            Dont be a sour loser and shut the hell up. Go eat a bowl of lanzhou-lamien or something…

          • Hongjian,

            Is there any country that has any relationship with the US that isn’t also fueling the crisis? Does the crisis not also hurt almost every other country that is in that web? You laugh at the suffering of many people wh did nothing wrong. Criticism is one thing, but you revell in suffering and enjoy ridiculing those who are down whether they are part of the problem or just victims. You consistently make blanket bigoted statements and deserve everyone here’s scorn. Numerically more Chinese likely suffered from the US financial crisis, Chinese-Americans and Chinese alike. China’s continued economic success though substantial and certainly in most respects real is of course distorted. Besides, supporting the addictition of the American economy and praising China’s role is nothing to be proud of. As if you thought of that or have had anypart in it. Instead of being the drug dealer who is above it and and is smart enough to not use their own product, China is using the same product it is pushing. It has massive hidden debt that is accumulating by the second. Unlike China for the US, there won’t be anyone or anything that can help bail China out if there is ever a crisis here.

          • You obviously dont see the big advantage China has by sitting in the same boat with the US.

            For the US, China is only fueling their inefficient and decadent lifestyle, while being the evil commie to focus the hate of the redneck-majority, by providing the image of the bogeyman for their retarded movies like Red Dawn II and shit.
            But for China, the drug dealer, that not only got the US addicted, but also itself, this relationship is foremost a practical political leverage and backup to keep the US at bay, and also their own, party-internal fractions who are seeking direct confrontations with the established balance of power with the US and the West.
            “Keep your friends close, but your enemies even closer” is the obvious quote of the day here.
            And this strategical genius IS something to be proud of!
            Compared to the fate of the soviet union, who hadnt such a close relationship with the US, a total economical isolation of China would be practically unthinkable today – no matter whatever the sinophobic population in all western countries are crying about boycotting chinese goods or ending diplomatical relationship etc.; any pragmatical thinking politician wont ever risk the total wealth of their country and populance to destroy another nation only because whining people like you want it like this.

            And about the ‘numerical more suffering’ of the Chinese in the crisis: Well, so be it. Mainly the export-industry and the manufacturers of cheap goods in coast-regions like Guangzhou suffered heavily from the crisis in the West. The government and those people knew beforehand that their industry werent any stable in the long term to begin with. So this ‘sacrifice’ was actually a great and not really unwelcomed catalyst for the government to restructure the whole economic base of the country; away from export-oriented country to a domestic-consume-oriented industrialized country. Just like Japan; first living by exporting copied cheap goods and electronics to the West and the rest of the world, then transforming to a solid, consume-based domestic economy.
            Sooner or later, this unsustainable export-industy HAD TO die anyway. So the ‘death’ wasnt really that bad. At least the government is now forced to initiate the reform immediately.

          • Hongjian,

            Your problem is, no matter what your ideas are and whether they are sound or not, you seem like some retarded obese football fan on the sidelines of geo-politics laughing and cat-calling, mocking and revelling in real people’s loss and suffering.

          • haha.

            You cannot combat the truth with Moralfagging, Fish…

            People exist to be used by those with power and ambition. This is how the world works, so spare me with you childish naiivety and return to your fairy tales.
            If those people suffer anyway, so why should one not turn their suffering into something beneficial for the whole collective? This is just pragmatic and sound.
            And anyway: Who the fuck cares about people suffering? What can you do for them anyway? The world runs like this, and everyone, still stuck with the superman-fantasies of a stupid idealist youth who wants to ‘save the world’ and to ‘make humanity happy’, is unsuited for the real life.

            Morality doesent help anyone, only cold, hard power.

          • Hongjian,

            And you know all this how? Because you tried the idealist approach, tried helping the needy, and found it didn’t work? Or are you a very powerful person who has seen what great things your power can do? Or are you one of those pathetic little weak people who see all the power that being a pragmatic cold asshole will bring and you are jealous? BTW… give me your definition of power… I’m guessing it has something to do with big guns.

          • For example being deployed to Afghanistan, believing my country’s idealism of ‘bringing them democracy and freedom’ and in the end, seeing the reality and being utterly dissapointed with my former naiivety.

            And my definition of power: A combination of armament (yes, guns), strenght, education, intelligence, having the lead of information, an unrestricted mind without the bindings of moral, religion and principle, and the needed ambition to use these ruthlessly to gain total control over material, immaterial and organic objects, while being the subject of all things.
            Only this qualifies as ‘having power’ – all ideologies and religions claiming that YOU, an insignificant little human without any ‘hard currency’ to back your claims up, is enjoying ‘undisputable rights’ that allows you to ‘have power’ within and without a system, is pretty much a fucking fairy tale.

    • There’s this quote from Li Hongzhang, the Qing Chancellor at that time, stating: “Weak countries cannot afford diplomacy”

      This quote pretty much describes what the Chinese learned from that time: Be weak and docile and everyone will buttrape you without mercy. If you’re defenceless and have no power on your side, all treaties and all measures of diplomacy are all just a piece of paper without ability to
      save your ass from the rape of the powerful – only by becoming strong and screwing over everyone, just like the west, you can avoid the fate of an international rape-victim.

      So, things ‘that shouldnt have happened’, actually should have happened, because it’s the right of the strong to forcefully take what they want from the weak: This was the real lesson learned from the western imperialism in China.
      This ‘siege-mentality’ was actually a product from this learnings, because it just worked pretty well, seeing all the wealth and glory of those powers who raped China, especially Japan, got from it.

      Now China feels powerful and will apply the same proven western methods to its own uprising – what so bad and ‘unproportionale’ about it? Isnt this just Darwinism? The survival of the fittest? The weak gets eaten and the strong survives?

      • I wouldn’t say we learned it that late, it’s clear the kind of power politics was well in play during the imperial years of the Tang and especially Ming dynasty. The kind of brutal pragmatism was applied to all of China’s neighbors in those days, for better or for worse.

        • Yeah the brutal power politics was played well inside China, against Chinese and their direct neighboring Tribes. But China first had to learn to step down from its high horse and to play dirty power-politics against ‘western babarians’, who where looked down at before they invaded China.
          China first had to realize, that one cannot stop gunboats and modern western line-infantry with just acting as the solely civilized nation in the world and just talking and looking down on the adversaries, but one has to treat them, like one treats with an equally civilized and capable enemy.

          In short: China learned not how to play power politics, but they learned that the Western powers were enemies, worth the power politics.

      • So what you’re essentially saying is, that since China learned to do this from others, it is fair for it to go and rape the world like the Japanese did to it; and that likewise historically, it was fair for the west to rape China when it had the opportunity in the 1900′s; Based on this assumption the, SHOULD the opportunity arise again, the west may continue this attitude and rape China anew, if it could? Is this your interpretation of how civilization should conduct itself?

        I think your insular views misses out on the fact that historically, many in both Japan and the west argued against the colonialism and imperialistic actions of those times. An example would be Mark Twain, who had vehemently wrote his opposition to US imperialism or colonial involvement in Qing China and the far east. Similarly, despite the US today being thrown into war against Iraq, many American certainly opposed starting such a war.

        I also appreciate the fact that there are those in China that don’t take a political darwinistic viewpoint; that the world can live together without drawing blood at every turn.

        Recognize that even the origin of China was limited in this regard. Soon after the Qin conquered her neighbors, it itself fell. Your rationale for belligerence certainly has emotional resonance with Chinese nationalists at the moment, however, with Chinese historians, it is seen as exactly the type of attitude that had flung China into more wars than can be counted. This all means suffering for Chinese people which I certainly don’t want any part of.

        • If one is weak and has no means to defend oneself whatsoever, then it is one’s own fault when the strong
          act as they should.
          So I dont blame Japan and the Western Imperial powers for their invasions, massacres and rape in China, since they are only like animals, predators, wolfes who will follow their nature and hunting anyone who cant defend oneself. All the pain China has to suffer from 1848-1949 and beyond, was entirely its own fault.
          And what is ‘Civilization’? Wasnt this very same word used as a excuse to invade and colonize the weak nations? ‘Civilization’, as a concept of peace, is just an invention of the same obese and wealthy people, who have killed, raped and pillaged enough weaklings, got powerful and rich by it, and now have the luxury to lean back and enjoy sweet morality.
          Practically the same as in Coppenhagen, where the rich countries who achieved their industrial level through pollution are now demanding that everyone has to go back to stone-age and should not achieve the same wealth like them.

          So dont talk as if raping, robbing and pillaging the weak hasnt brought massive profit for the ones doing it! All the holier-than-thou-talk IS ONLY possible, BECAUSE these strong nations has profitted massively through their social darwinist behavior. All those intellectuals who spout their moralfagging crap about opposition and morality, while drinking colonial coffee and tea, wearing clothes made of slave-labour cotton and propably having slaves themselves (or in case of Japan; studied in the Tokio University that was build with the very same silver that Japan got from China from ‘reparations’ of the lost first-sino-japanese war) arent very convincing in my eyes. The same with Iraq and Afghanistan nowadays – the innocent civilians, called ‘collateral damage’, sure were helped in their death to know that there are hippies and liberals in the US and their ‘coalition of the willing’ who are ‘strongly opposing starting this war’. What a argument! People are attacking and robbing me, but I shouldnt hate them because some of them ‘are argueing against’ or ‘vehemently writing their opposition against’ the fact that I am being raped in the butt right now. Convincing!

          And good that you mentioned the Qin-unification. Their Dynasty fell down, but the Ideology, Concept and Idea of a unified China as a normative, historical factor (and not to mention the unification of the writing language) still survived to that day.
          So isnt this just another proof that violence and political darwinism actually was, is and always will be a viable option?
          What I’m stating here isnt as ‘extreme’ as it sounds. The fact that the Cold-War didnt get ‘hot’ was exactly because there are people who arent thinking like you and disarm oneself, hoping for a “world that can live together without drawing blood at every turn”, but were preparing enough nukes and enough tanks to make sure that the MAD – the Mutual Assured Destruction – will protect ones people against others, and thus protecting a shaky ‘peace’ in the world.

          • Erm… there’s already a book with all my drivel in one Volume: “Unhappy China – The Great Time, Grand Vision and Our Challenges” by Song Qiang, Huang Jisu, Song Xiaojun, Wang Xiaodong and Liu Yang.

            read it. shit is so cash.
            and my drivel here pales in comparrisson to these fine gentlemen’s envisioned strategy of how China should fuck with the world.

        • And about the question wether the West should rape China again, if the opportunity arises, I only say YES, They should. Or rather, Yes, they already are doing it. Their funding of oppositionals, dissents and militant minorities in China is already a attempt to prepare China to be raped again, If China cannot protect itself from these attempts.
          If China one day weakens and falls, and the wolfes are gathering around its corpse again to consume it, then China deserved everything it got. The Nature doesent tolerate weakness.

          That’s why China has to remain strong and do anything to prevent such a fate, by becoming a wolf itself.

          • Hongjian,

            The US’s attempts to fund that kind of dissent are so ridiculous and inept as to be laughable. To suggest that as a real threat and to imply that the lion’s share of China’s internal unrest is somehow prompted or fueled by the US is absurd. If the US’s political destabilization is so powerful, explain Cuba.

            Also, your wolf analogy sucks. A wolf won’t kill another wolf. China should become a tiger. But, instead, it is blindly doing just as you say, becoming just like America, fat on hamburgers, living on credit, flooded by base material culture, and roused by moronic nationalist bullshit like what you spout. Your lot are similar to the Pat Buchanan types, uber nationalist hate mongering small penised bigots hiding behind a smokescreen of pseudo-intellectualism.

          • Sure these dissents are inept, when thinking that they have successfully disturbed an entire summer-olympics with their moralfagging. And what I’m reading the entire time in the internet? Charta-08? Nobody cares about this shit in China and only 10.000 people signed it out of 300 million netizens in total, but the western media is still acting as if a Chinese Martin Luther has just pinned his 95 thesis’ on a church-door in Wittenberg.

            Ah, my wolf analogy sucks eh? Again, I’m just an uncreative chinese copycatting superior western thinking. Check ‘Thomas Hobbes’ and ‘Leviathan (book)’ on wikishit and then declare that one of the major philosopher of enlightment had used a shit analogy to end the thinking of medieval-age.

          • Congrats! You repeated something a famous guys said… YOU WIN! I’ll quote Hobbes, the cartoon tiger, when he said “You are a moron”.

          • Did you actually read about Hobbes and his theory of state and society? Do you know what ‘Homo homini Lupus’ fucking means?!

            Dont be a Fish. Educate yourself.

    • Vietnam and India… These countries are still pretty weak. Their lack of aggresive ambitions and lack of ‘siege-mentality’ towards their former western imperialist powers, only show that they where raped until broken and have already lost their dignity. They didnt learned the lesson of the imperial time.

      This is nothing to be proud of.

    • And about Mao and his utilized Ideology of Communism. This is just another point that proves how Western influence can only bring massive misery upon the Chinese people.

    • I can see it now: jon walking to African Americans and tell them “look, I know slavery is wrong, but other slaves like those in India and the mideast has suffered far worse than your 200 years in the US. You are all being manipulated by the Al Sharpton and other elite negros for their own gain. So why don’t y’all just STFU and get ‘em fried chikkenz”

      Or jon talking to your average abused women: “Look, I know that being abused by your husband is a crappy thing, but you should consider yourself to be lucky because there are far worse domestic abuse cases out there. Your husband didn’t even sell you into the whore house. You are all being manipulated by the femi-nazi movement. So why don’t you just STFU and go back to the kitchen!”

      Heck jon’s logic would even work on pro-china propaganda as well: “Look Tibetans, I know that being taken over the Chinese is bad, but losing your land to the Chinese is not so bad because others have suffered far more than you for far longer. Plus, your existing theocracy is crap anyway. The Lama system made sure that nothing would be produced because 70% of your population was praying rather than working.”

      • You are putting words in my mouth and then laughing at the result. I acknowledged what happened was bad and never suggested anyone ‘stfu.’ I am merely pointing out that the over-emphasis of Western imperial incursions on the part of the Chinese government is cynical, misleading, and a source of needless tension and xenophobia.
        A similar point was made in a Chinese journal not long ago. If you google the Yuan Weishi essay that got the Chinese journal ‘Freezing Point’ shut down you will see a more in-depth discussion of this problem.

        • Why are the xenophobia and the tensions towards the west needless? The west has clearly a political aganda to destabilizing and containing China; they are building military bases around China, having military alliances against China and are openly campaigning with ‘stopping China’ in their own elections.
          So, what tensions are ‘needless’ here? The fearmongering West that wants to see China as a failed third-world Nation with its own disastrous Gorbatshov and Yeltsin years of embraced freedom, democracy, misery, weakness and downfall? Or China, thats reminding their people to never forget historical humilations, so that even our most westenized post-90 Generation would have a basic understanding about how cruel and ill-minded the western world can be, towards the weakness of one own, as shown everyday in all the countries they have inva- erm.. freed?

          There’s nothing ‘misleading, cynical and needless’ when there’s potential outwards aggression against one own. China just learned not to be so stupid like Saddam, who gave in the pressure and destroyed all his weapons he could have used to defend against the inevitable Invasion of the Western coalition.

          • Fighting aggression, potential or real and now, is what any country should do. Some do it without whining and constantly playing the victim card though. Others, that’s all they can do.

        • Of course I am putting words in your mouth, but only by following your own logic. As you can see your argument can easily lead yourself down to some dangerous (and NON-Politically correct)slippery slopes.

          Did the Chinese over-emphasis on certain part of its history? Maybe, but it’s very silly to quantity how much a group has suffered verses another and then tell others on what should be forgiven and what should be not.

          Mind you, this tension is hardly needless. It helps the Chinese government to focus on its own self interest because its citizens demand so. It also helps its own citizens to relief stress and anger.

          Other governments does it too and China is the target of blames from the loss of jobs to the destruction of the whole planet. Maybe you should tell the US/British politicians to stop fanning the xenophobic tensions against China only to cover up for their own incompetence.

          • We are all human. So it’s important to have some perspective. It’s important to look at others’ history and how they dealt with it, how a catastrophe, crisis, or tragedy was reacted to and recovered from. It should always be more about the idea that others have likely suffered similar to or worse than you and you can learn from that rather than “my suffering is unique and nobody else can ever understand it”.

    • Jon,

      Hongjiang reminds me of Andy Lau’s character in A World Without Thieves. I can understand his understanding of the past and his rationalizations for how they can guide China forward, but I also appreciate your explicit agreement that Western imperialism had a lot of negative effects and your personal belief that it shouldn’t have happened and should never happen again.

      I agree with you that the CCP manipulates and exploits that period. I agree that many of the ways it does so are objectionable and worthy of exasperated contempt.

      I also strongly agree that Chinese people cannot afford to blame only others for what happened in the past. I’ve made this point several times on this website. Chinese people have the power to influence what can and cannot happen to them.

      I don’t, however, understand what is so “bizarre” about how I described the Mao era. As far as I understand history, I don’t see how any part of my characterization is incorrect.

  55. Only the smartest deserve to reproduce like this. Even then, we have limited resources.

    It’s interesting that in America there are a lot of ignorant impoverished twenty somethings that are having tons of children and Republicans don’t want to allow abortion to be covered under health insurance.

    More children aren’t always the answer. Clever and creative is.

    • The conservatives in the US are very easy to troll. Just tell them that abortion helps to reduce welfare and you will have the social conservatives fighting against the fiscal conservatives.

      Sadly, there is a negative correlation between education levels and the number of off srpings. So statistically, smart people do not reproduce while the dumb ones breed like rabbits :) We are doomed.

  56. I think I am in love.

    I used to be a buddhist until I read Siddhartha. He spent have his life begging which led to enlightenment and the other half with whores and wasting someone else’s fortune.

    In order to be enlightened, don’t you have to take care of yourself?

  57. In Siddartha, an aspiring buddhist spends half his life begging and the other half f*cking prostitues and wasting someone else’s money. Part of enlightenment is taking care of yourself.

  58. Title and article has no relevance. Nothing against mixed marriages from natural scenarios but obviously Eurasian children are not ethnic Chinese or Caucasian? Read here what diluting bloodlines in this manner will result in.

    Facebook group : “Orthodox Taoism”
    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=32664919942

  59. What to say then about this Young Chinese(33 years old), from JiangSu province, handing Two African passports, a Chinese passport (renewed in february 2008), and married “officially” with one (1) british lady (with Two Kids), double-married with one (1) african lady (with Four Kids; 3 biologicals and 1 adopted from orphanage), and lately engaged with 1 shanghainese girl while datting a hometown YangZhou pretty girl?
    Since he still running prosperously a business between China and Africa, nobody s asking him to justify his acts.
    I appreciating his Harmonious Living way”.

    Happy New year, dear mates!!!

  60. there was a white man in chinasmack who said my sister would never had sex with chinese guy. why this women have so many children with chinese guy. her pussy must be oversize now to have ten children

    • You are such a stupid moron..she has 10 lovely children and another thing why would you care how big her pu**y is, are you planning on screwing her? Get your mind out of the gutter!

  61. Stop importing so many brides to U.S. and start sending some men!

  62. This article about this guy having 10 kids. Good for him but I don’t think the majority of the Chinese would have the financial means to bring them. Maybe 4 would be max any Chinese family would have and 2 the minimum outside of China. The Brady bunch family model is out the window and is replaced by the little emperors.

    As developing countries mature, women become more sophisticated, more independent, more income, more highly educated, me fist mentality and have children in the early to late 30s. Western economies have slowing birth rates.

  63. Chinese are very welcome to emigrate to defeat Jew-controlled Western countries, as long as they want to sleep in all of Jews’ houses, Jews’ schools, Jews’ colleges, Jews’ nightclubs, Jews’ synagogues, Jews’ restaurants, Jews’ workplaces, Jews’ driveways, Jews balconies, Jews’ roofs, Jews’ chimneys, Jews’ study rooms, Jews’ libraries, Jews’ gyms, etc.

    Great, if 5 million Chinese are emigrating to push Jews out of Israel. This will be greatest news in the mankind history.

    Very wonderful if Chinese invade to sleep in Rothschild bankers’ mansions – bedrooms, kitchens, restrooms, living rooms, hallways, stairs, attics, etc. They are very welcome to have extramaritial affairs with all of Jews’ wives and husbands. The cheating spouses will be able to give births of many illegitmate children – half Jewish and Chinese mutants and monsters. Jews (Jewish citizens of Israel, UK, U.S., South Africa, Australia, Europe, Russia, and Canada), not Chinese illegal immigrants, are required to pay 100% for the child supports.

    It will be very nice if Chinese dump their Communist beliefs for Buddhism, after they emigrate. Zionism, Judaism, Communism, and Christianity are all Jews’ products. They, including Islam, are worst of all. Buddhism is the best and most realistic religion.

    “1 million Jews are not worth a Chinese fingernail”.

    • What a twat! Anti-Semitism is soooo last century. Why don’t you find a more au-courant form of bigotry, like hating emos and gingers or not leaving Britney alone?

      (Fine, fine, I’ll leave you to your translating ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ into Chinglish)

  64. 1. This guy has totally not kept up his half of the genetic hybridization theory of enhancement. Unless those kids all have ESP or something… however…way to go, you sir, have OVERACHIEVED.

    2. Hongjian makes many pertinent points…however as observant as he is he ignores many other evident facts, characteristics and occurrences that all affect the outcome of international conflict. I fear that the current PRC is a House built on a foundation of sand, and as such has much greater worries than if the neighbours have a nicer roof.

    3. On a lighter note… you fuck us financially…we fuck you LITERALLY. It’s anyones guess who will win?! Happy 2010 mutafuckas!
    *BTW* this is how China colonised the upper 1/3rd of many South Asian countries. Concubines…

  65. Unless you came from Mars, there’s no such thing as “bloodline” and “maintaining the bloodline” and all that rot.

    The “bloodline” is changed by 50% the minute you have kids, and any attempt at “purity” gets you nothing better than recessive genetic conditions!

    One World – or is it “One World, but keep everyone in certain pens like dog breeds…???”

    Globalization has begun; there’s nothing anyone can do about it. We’re all going to mix — as humans have done from the beginning of time.

    Time to worry less about “looks” and worry more about happiness, health, and peace.

  66. His logic does not make sense, he is way off the mark, might have to re-marry to achieve his goal. It would have made sense if he: Married a European-Chinese or Married a Chinese in China then emigrate to Europe.
    Your kids, when they become adults, would class themselves as British and will find it funny if you told them why you married their mum and had so many children, it is laughable.

  67. LuShan is in Jiangxi Province, not Hunan

  68. I think it is perhaps a fake! the ages that the children appear to be does not span the time needed to produce them. Also With mixed Chinese/English marriages the children are predomenantly dark haired and with regular and often handsome features, more of a Chinese face than English. I have never seen fair haired children in mixed asian/European(Eurasian} Children. Incidently I am one of a family of eight sons and two sisters! not uncommon in England 38/40 years ago.

  69. This is quite disturbing. No, not the family in question (though if they had been unemployed I would be furious, like with all the other chav families breeding on taxpayers expenses), but 99% of the comments here and the way the original article was twisted in the Chinese version. Original article (bearing in mind this is the Daily Mail – who one day hates immigrants, the next praises the goodwill of one) is about a woman wanting to marry but being put off because she was always pregnant. Oh, dilemma!

    Yet somehow this turned into a Chinese invasion of Europe? Whatever. Why don’t we hear such comments when a chinese woman and white man have kids – a chinese invasion of sorts?

    To all extents and purposes, they will be British – I guess the BNP and Nazis will say otherwise and will still experience racism, but they will speak English, act English and be English. They won’t need to invade Britain, because it’s already theirs.

  70. I support this guy, every other race is fine but the White race needs to be destroy not by violence but by constant promotion of multi-racial and completly wipe out of white race gene pool. The less of them the better, the world would be a better place without these foreign white devils.

  71. Those children are very lovely, Mixed race is beautiful. although i have no idea what he is trying to prove. china has policy because there is too many people lol cannot change this.

  72. So the idea that the Chinese nation can rise up and defeat foreigners through immigration is ridiculous.

    If you want more Chinese in this world, protest against the China’s government in dropping the One-Child policy. The reason why the One-Child policy is in place is because your homeland is struggling to support people it already has (i.e. natural resources, availability of land, jobs, healthcare, etc.)

    The claim also erroneously assumes several things:

    -That other nations does not have the right to enforce its border and immigration laws. If they don’t want any more Chinese or other foreigners in their country, it is their right to close the border and you can’t do anything about it. It is their sovereignty just like it is China’s to close its border with N. Korea.

    -So the author is advocating this “half-chinese” population to rally against the “white people” as he puts it. Does he think that the non-chinese spouse is so stupid that they will let the Chinese spouse totally dominate and shut-out he/her own cultural identity. So is the net really more “Half-Chinese” or “half-White People”. Maybe the wife in the article wears the panties in the family and his own Chinese culture will be diluted.

    -Chinese people have this “we are racially superior mentality” which is stupid. How does you being Chinese or any other nationality make a difference in this world? The important thing is to be proud of your heritage but what values are you teaching your children (not all Western values are bad, just as not all Chinese values are all wonderful).

    The reason why the “white people” dominated was because of their creativity and ability, but like China dominated all of Asia and the world in the earlier civilization. So give the white people their due just like the Chinese people deserve to be recognized for their contributions to the world. Also, instead of complaining at why the white people have 6)% of the world’s land, why don’t you look at why China (one country has 25% of the world’s population). The ancient Chinese agrarian society of preferring males vs. females also contributed to this (males would later take care of their aging parents) as farmer’s would have large families in the hope of having as much sons as possible. Without this China’s population would be even smaller.

    Finally, it is frightening what a majority Chinese world would be like. With it’s “me-first”, do anything at all cost to serve my interests mentality, and the exploitations of the natural resources, I don’t think our world would be a better place. All the shark’s would have long disappeared (eaten for shark fin soup), tigers would like disappeared (for herbal medicine), bears disappeared (for their bile), fish species would be threatened (for their water pollution in the name of economic development), etc. Scary.

    • First of all this thread is just retarded…. I doubt anyone would even think of something like 1 step closer to dominating the world when they marry someone.

      Why the hell protest against the Chinese government?
      The one child policy is great.
      The government is doing a better job than most people expected.

      If China wasn’t a Communist country it would never develop so fast in such a short time, even though it restricted a lot of things in the past but its very moderate right now compared to other communist countries.

      • Agree with you this thread is retarded. Ok, no one is serious about dominating the world through marriage.

        Disagree with one point though: China would have been much farther along economically, maybe even a developed country (in terms of the maturity of its technology and individual markets, not necessarily the per capita income of its population) if China was a democratic free market 60 years ago. Their fast pace growth the last 10-15 years is because they had a lot of catching up for the previous 60 years. With the determination and work ethic of the Chinese people, their economic machine would have been much farther along. It would have been Hong Kong and Taiwan times 1000.

  73. The story even the origens of the story are fake, pencils are incapable of producing ten children.

  74. Wat a dumbass loser..so racist and nationalist..pathetic individual. I feel sorry for the wife and the kids, who will later find out that they are just ‘devices’ conceived by their father to ‘defeat’ the white people

  75. If this dude really wanted to take over the Western world, then all his kids would have had Asian names….

  76. Lol, please back up you comments before you assume anything.

    Over all you know nothing about them, there are lotz of possibilities.

    We are not 14-18 most are well over that age for one I’m 23y/o

    You are straying off from the main topic and bagging everyone out. LOL Mr Internet warrior?

  77. “In China if one of your grandfathers is China but everyone else is French you are a Chinaman. ”

    No you doofus, it depends on the way you look, and it’s not only in China that people are judged that way. If you are 1/4th Chinese and look like John Gosslin then of course everyone will still call you a chink in the West. But who the hell in China thinks Keanu Reeves is a fellow Chinese although his grandfather is Chinese?

    Look at Tiger Woods and Obama, they are mixed but they are all considered to be African Americans. Forget the fact that at least one of their parents is white and they were brought up in “white” culture, they are all expected to protect their “own race” (not mixed, but African Americans specifically) by people from both the left and the right.

  78. Hey I read this at work thank you very much

  79. I’m not looking for women, but skanky mecenary Americunts

  80. Jones….it’s really funny to think about. I mean, why is their minds always about defeating and defeating…few years back, they were begging for food. Jeez, “Allowed ,and now looking for Allowance”

  81. In Uiygur Regions of Xinjiang the Uygurs are still the majority. The only change was, that Han Chinese cities like Urumqi grew a lot. In 1949 Urumqi was a small village now it is a big city.

    If you look at the geographical population distribution you will see there were no big change at all.

    The numbers you said are just a way to abuse statistic for political propaganda. About uighur language and university – the University of Urumqi offers different branch of studies in Uigur and Kazakh.

    Just go to the homepage and check it, and do not believe everything kadeer and the western propaganda machine is telling you.

  82. freedom of mobility anyone ?

    i’m glad the CCP allows their citizens to practice one of the fundamental human rights.

  83. “china is not a race”,thats a new concept to me!!!is anyone willing to explain that?

  84. Chinese is infact something much more distinct than a race, it’s 93% demographically Han ethnicity. When people refer to China they refer to the general consensus among the Han ethnic group. We, Hans, have strong family values passed down from classical confucianism. The sysnthesis of a pure ethnic (not racial) majority + history + confucianism, naturally leads to strong nationalism.

  85. i don’t believe everything kadeer and the western propaganda machine is telling me. But unfortunately I also am blocked access to the university of urumqi’s homepage to verify what you say is true. pity…

  86. Since July 5 of 2008, Chinese blocked all the Uyghur websites, arrested more than 2000 people

    In your logic, everything CNN or BBC reported consider as ” anti Chinese”, and all trues are lying on your Communist control CCTV or ” The people’s daily”

    Grew up in Eastern Turkistan as an Uyghur I know that the Chinese are the most bias people on earth

    Shame on you! you slave of Communists!!!

  87. A phenomena would be, that mostly the chinese women are the dominant ones in a foreigners family, and also the ones who will set the family culture, which is then clearly chinese-influenced.

    I come from such a family: A firm German Landser with perfectly aryan genes, married with a small chinese women, who managed to turn him into a full fledged Chinese over the time.

    In this case, it’s not a racial assimilation, but a cultural one – and this is the strongest form of assimilation.

  88. In fact all the world is copying western culture…

    Asian included…

    It’s cultural not racial!

    Do not use ur personal story to make unrealistic thesis!

    Check the reality my friend! ;-)

  89. Hongjain is on to something here. According to the ever so reliable and “accurate” wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage

    “By the 14th century, the total population of Muslims in China had grown to 4 million.[18] After Mongol rule had been overthrown by the Ming Dynasty in 1368, this led to a violent Chinese backlash against West and Central Asians. In order to contain the violence, the Ming administration instituted a policy where all West and Central Asian males were required to intermarry with native Chinese females, hence assimilating them into the local population. Their descendants are today known as the Hui people.[17]”

    So that was the Chinese master plan for cultural dominance. I would say that the Chinese is actually pretty enlightened. Imagine European governments encourage white womenz to marry the “rag heads” in order to fight the islamic “insurgence”; I would bet that lynching and draggings would go through the roof as the ever so insecure whities go on a rampage against the minority groups.

  90. Good sir, can I have a look at your ahnenpass?

  91. Explain which dominant cultural traits these women like your mom bring.

  92. Well, if my Chinese wife made me culturally Chinese, the first thing I’d do is break her feet and take a concubine.
    I love what Chinese people define as traditional.

  93. disproved.

    not really.

    the western culture isnt venerated, but it’s popular culture, because it’s the symbol of wealth and decadence. All the developing countries want to have the western lifestyle of wealth and extravagance, but hardly anyone wants to copy their mentality.

    there’s this difference.

  94. It defines class.

  95. hit a wounded nerve?

  96. I’m just referring to the other end of the spectrum of racism that plagues China. There’s nothing wrong with demanding equality.

  97. You are blocked to access to the university of urumqi´s homepage????

    By the way, even as a foreign exchange student it is possible to study uigur or kazhak language and culture there:
    http://www.chinatefl.com/xinjiang/study/xj-uni.html

  98. You’re right that it is a nationality, but in our modern popular understanding of race, most nationalities have become races. It’s considered “racist” to call a Japanese person a “Jap”, even though you’re technically right that the Japanese are a nationality.

    Perhaps “discriminatory” or “prejudiced” might be better ways to refer to this type of name calling, but racism is definitely the more popular descriptive term.

  99. Not to be a pedant, but I think “Asian” isn’t really a race. Han, Uyghur, Khmer, etc. are all races, and are definitely mutually distinguishable from each other. So China is made up of many races, which could all (mostly) be put under the umbrella-term “Asian.”

  100. nice words. shit thing is just, that the methods and the intellectual basis of ‘getting beyond it’ is based on the achievments of the western culture, in the same way as the enlightment that ended the christian dark ages, was actually a product of christianity.

    only fools would believe that culture is unimportant.

  101. Try to tell that to The Tibetans!

  102. thanks to the mentioned achievements/delusions of ‘openess’, ‘tolerance’ and ‘democracy’, people tend to cling on political correctness when speaking about interracial relationships. But forcing oneself to be politically correct, doesent mean that the biological program of self-preservation, planted in the human brain since the dawn of evolution is now deactivated.

  103. Looks like some fuckin chinese LAOWAI <—- ;-) looks for a revenge!

    I know it is hard to be umiliated and I know u r desperately looking for a reveange!

    But it will not end as u think my friend!

    Humanity is going to mix not to became a chinese colony!

    Sorry mate…;-)

    U live in crazy and (for ya) scary world!

    Laowai <—:-)LAO WAI

  104. Sorry mister hahawhatever,

    English is not my first language, so it seems that your, sir’s, english seems to be too high and noble for me to understand.

    So, I hereby plead you to formulate your post in a more appropriate linguistic fashion, so that I, a lowly beggar, may be able to understand your intellectually sophisticated intention.

    Thank you, good sir.

  105. U have not the brain! what do u want understand?

    “Assimilate” some vitamins maybe u will be smarter soon…

    Good luck my friend!

    ps: call us when u will need water and clean air, ok?

    It looks like in 90 years more or less u will run out of water and u have already destroyed 1/3 of ur actual potable water…:-)
    What a great civilization u r… Impressive ;-)

    U have for sure an higher QI…;-)

    How is goin’desertification? Still good? ;-)

    U need help?

  106. enlightment that ended the christian dark ages, was actually a product of christianity.

    Ah I see, you went to school in Bavaria. :)

  107. you dont understand the analogy.

    Chinese are well known as the only people in the world who are able to out-jew the jews. Of course only with the exception, that China didnt get German submarines for free, because of it.
    But this analogy stands; Chinese are, like the jews, very potent in terms of doing business, value education above all, and also possess this special ruthlessness, that gets them hated by their neighbors.

    no offence towards the jews here, they are pretty cool people with a nice military bodycount.

  108. You are one of them, at least talking shit online is what one of those do everyday.

  109. Oh this is rich, so you are judging a race/culture by the nobel prize numbers now. Is that the same prize which Arafat won? And Obama just won it recently too, after sending more troops to afghanistan. Tell me that the prize is not politicized?

    How about this: World Bank reported this april that China had lifted more people out of poverty than rest of the world combined in the last twenty years. Tell me that is not a bigger accomplishment for the human race than the other bs prizes which the Nobel gives out every year.

  110. you misunderstood something I think. I’ve never seen any fingerpointing and blaming towards Japanese, Europeans, Americans and Russians etc. for us being a supposed shitty race/nationality without those Bullshitprize achievements or something.

    The truth is, some of us just fucking hate and wanting to kill all of the above mentioned, without any reason to blame them at all. Which is OK in my book, since this is the right attitude for a coming dominant power who will enslave half of the world.

    No more peace-loving, tree-hugging and moral-apostleing faggotry.

    Only pure and clean irrational, baseless hate.

    CHINA FUCK YEAR!

  111. hehe, you guys are right, well just in case…

  112. Who’s “us”? Believe it or not, China today is the land of opportunity for many people in the world. You mentioned narcissism above.

  113. He sounds very bitter for some reason. Personal experiences perhaps?

  114. Funny that such an inane story has managed to expose GuoBao’s insecurities for all to see.

  115. What is an East Turkistan?

  116. “Grew up in Eastern Turkistan as an Uyghur I know that the Chinese are the most bias people on earth”

    Actually Uighurs such as yourself are far more biased than the ordinary Chinese. If you go on your typical “east turkey-stan” and “free tibet’ sites you will find far more racist comments and hate against Chinese people than most white racist sites.

    Do you honestly think the average Chinese will hate you and prejudge you, as much as you do to them?

  117. I voted your first comment up but I had to vote this one down. I agree with you that it’s alarming that anyone has the idea they have to “defeat” another one, especially on ethnic/national/racial terms. However, while I agree there is a misconception that the world is out to get them [the Chinese], I think that issue deserves some elaboration.

    As it is, much of the world (not everyone, but a whole lot of people) is notable apprehensive, even fearful of modern China. You have people of the world’s (by far) most powerful nation making movies suggesting that the Chinese are going to invade them. You have activists and people from all of the developed countries criticizing nearly every aspect of China trying to modernize itself and stand on its feet.

    Not long after centuries of China being subject to imperialism and colonialism. You can’t ask them to forget parts of their past while you criticize them for whitewashing or rewriting parts of it at the same time. That Chinese people have been threatened and exploited by much of the current world’s most dominant nations and civilizations is a fact and I don’t begrudge them for remembering it just as Jews, blacks, or minorities everywhere remember their own historical oppression or subjugation.

    There was a time, not that long ago, where many nations WERE wolves, waiting to pounce on China. British, Portugese, Americans, Russians, Japanese, etc. Yeah, the world has, in many ways, changed and moved on, but there remain geo-political interests that nations continue to pursue, albeit in more subtle and deft ways for a more sophisticated and subtle modern global political environment.

    Both Sun Yat-Sen, Chiang Kai-shek, and Mao Zedong’s governments had their support from the Chinese people because they promised to modernize China and make it strong in the face of a world where developed countries exercise disproportionate influence and power relative to their size and populations. The “People’s Government” DID in many ways “stand up and put those pesky foreigners in their place.” Sun Yat-sen did this by overthrowing the inept Qing Dynasty, Chiang Kai-shek carried on battling the invading Japanese, and Mao Zedong closed the country off to figure things out (whatever his ultimate failures were).

    It is dangerous to dismiss, disregard, or belittle how much the Chinese people (not all, but many) do indeed look to their governments to protect their interests. This is no different from citizens of most other countries, just like Americans looked to their government to rescue reporters from North Korea or rescue cargo ship crew from Somali pirates.

    China DOES face competing interests from other nations and China’s government DOES, in many ways, protect China from them. That’s not to say there aren’t mistakes, misunderstandings, or misconceptions, but this is fundamentally truth. Without understanding this stuff, this background information, it’s really easy to just create more misunderstandings, misconceptions, and ultimately more mistakes…many of which we can’t really afford in the modern age.

  118. “Developed country privilege” probably would’ve been more accurate in this context.

  119. LoL, I was waiting to see if anyone noticed that.

  120. LMFAO talk shit on the site and now ur trying to hide ur ass?

    Which prized country do you come from that doesn’t have little bits and pieces of bad history?

    You are talking as if every other country is perfect, we’re only human and when humans make up a government things just get dirty.

  121. I doubt that the Nobel Prize would automatically spring to mind, to an average person, when the topic of mixed marraiges comes up.

  122. She’s not that hot and and she’s a poor porn actress. Actually, I just dislike the majority of Japanese AV. Too much whining, crying, and unmanaged hair (though they have reasons for that). I prefer it when the girls are into it, as equal willing participants, and the follicles tamed. ;)

  123. the follicles tamed has Kai become “whitewashed” by such western values and indeas of trimming, doesn’t this go against your notion to defend china and all chinese at all costs?

  124. Agreed. They’re damn hot, but the whining is out of control. Kudos to Japanese surgeons though, they do a much better job on the boobs than the western porn stars’ doctors do.

  125. 1. The taming of follicles and an appreciation for such traces its roots beyond “white” culture.

    2. I don’t defend China and all Chinese at all costs, Jay K. Bite me and stop being an petty twit.

  126. did you only read the first sentences?

    “Thus, the Chinese article was a blatant alteration of the original story and photos to further the author’s own views. “

  127. …how did the get there anyways?… cause before effect

  128. Yes yes. Golf claps all around. I too am glad that the CCP allows something that hundreds of other governments have always allowed.

  129. Actually, the CCP government doesn’t exactly allows freedom of mobility. Okay, it does, but there are specific policies like the hukou system that were designed as a policy brakes on mobility, specifically to discourage rural-to-urban domestic migration.

    But, Goodness, I’d say a lot of the major developed nations have historically limited mobility before in some manner but yeah, I’m sure there are technically “hundreds of other governments” have “always” allowed it.

  130. chinasmack is riddles with americans not brits.

  131. no fucking shit you dont need to teach me the whole black history to know it, i meant if he trying to diss the chinese people on not knowing their history better come clean with his own race first.

  132. Just out of curiosity, which developed nations historically imposed limits on mobility to its citizens?

  133. Wikipedia, despite all of the shit it still gets (I used to give it shit too), has generally become a good and reasonable reference source to check for most topics when one encounters information that runs contrary to what one expected.

    Nothing personal (especially since I’ve seen comments by you that I support), but I’m not sure why you think developed nations have never imposted limits on mobility. You should’ve learned this stuff in middle school if not elementary school, and at least by high school in history class or something.

  134. No offense taken. We are all adults here. I’m assuming that we are talking about state to state or country to country not private domain. I can see a government placing limits on its own citizens mobility due to special circumstances (war, terrorism,) which can later be repealed. But those are the exceptions not the rule.

  135. Han, Uyghur, Khmer, etc. are all races

    Based on which definition?

  136. the biological program of self-preservation

    Care to explain what this has to do with an inter-ethnic-group relationship?

  137. Money and class are not related. There are plenty of wealthy people who are very low class, whereas a broke noble is still upper class.

  138. Muslim Chinese must appear in your worse nightmares.

  139. Race is an invention, no matter how you look at it. However, “Asian” is one of the worst race categories ever. Based on “Asian” everyone from Israel to Korea belongs to the same race.

  140. tripe is right, but I don’t mean that how you think. Many people in China like to say they have stronger “family values” than the West. I think that is tripe. What family values? Ancestor worship, letting one’s parents make most of the important decisions in life, parents treating their adult children like infants, following family traditions out of the burden of obligation rather than being with family for fun, parasitic family members who easily con and steal from the rest, having complicated specific names for each family member, speaking to people deferentialy, but often just for show… the list goes on. None of those things give China better or superior “family values”. It’s an authoritarian Confucian version of family, maybe, but it doesn’t neccasarily represent a good family model. The longer I live in China and the more I see of real Chinese family life, the more I’m reminded of the family values cherished and practised by many Westerners and I no longer beleive the tripe that the Chinese, along with the compass, somehow invented, or reinvented, family values.

  141. You’ll just have to make do with the She-Orcs you are used to.

  142. All for concubines and footbinding, but just make sure your wife agrees to having her feet reshaped before doing that, otherwise that would be breaking the law.

  143. This is in reference to becoming culturally Chinese, and what Chinese view as being a “traditional Chinese” person, not in favor of footbinding.

  144. King Tubby,

    I’ve never said a raving lunatic couldn’t sometimes be right… and no, I’m not refering to Hongjian. Also, I shouldn’t pull ol Pat down but comparing Hongjian to him. Buchanan is at least good at what he does I guess.

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