Chinese Encouraged To Emigrate To Defeat Foreigners

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1. watchme

   Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 3:35 pm

   Half Asian in the West never considers themselves as being Asian and as the eventually marry White Westerners,they have no love for the Asian race. The Asian race is slowly diluted out of their blood-line.

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2. ralphrepo

   Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 5:29 pm

   “Chinese Encouraged To Emigrate To Defeat Foreigners”

   LOL, China forever with the inferiority complex. We need to go “defeat” other people just so that we can finally feel good about ourselves? Like, that is so lame…

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   • LOLZ

     Friday, January 1, 2010 at 12:40 am

     This is true. The inferiority complex of the Chinese can be seen pretty much anywhere, just look at idiots who think anything from the “outside” is better. But then again you get all of the non-Chinese people who have the constant urge to talk down the Chinese people so they can feel superior about themselves. That’s not lame?

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3. 不痛不痒

   Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 7:47 pm

   Yeah right, you are so brave, because you actually dare to marry a foreigner to defeat them.

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4. Jon

   Friday, January 1, 2010 at 2:18 am

   I think one reason that people object to the siege-mentality that Jones was commenting on is the lack of proportionality. Yes, China was subjected to imperialism and colonialism–this is something that should not have occurred and should never occur again.

   But it also seems that Beijing cynically manipulates and exploits this historical period… Look at a place like Vietnam, or India, or many African states, etc., where 100% of the national territory was lost to European rule for a far longer period than China’s lost..what, ≈10%? of national territory. They suffered far more than China did, yet now many of these states have better relations with Western states and show less tendency to rationlize by reference to the colonial era.

   Was China adversely affected by European colonialism? Absolutely. But Qing incompetence and domestic problems had far more to do with China falling behind in the world than anything any Europeans did. China’s path has always been and will always be determined by the people in China, not outsiders.

   Incidentally, describing the Mao era as ‘closing the country off to figure things out (whatever his ultimate failures might have been)’ seems like a rather bizarre description of that period.

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   • Hongjian

     Friday, January 1, 2010 at 3:13 am

     Most Chinese doesent blame the past 200 years failure solely on the Western Imperialism. They are aware of the incompetency and backwardness of the late-Qing Dynasty and do know that they are at fault for China’s downfall.
     The question is just, what lessons can be extracted from this historical period, where things happened ‘that shouldn’t have happened’, like you stated it…

     I would say, and this is also the most common opinion of all history-aware Chinese, that China learned something about how the world works during this time.
     They learned about the mercilessness and cruelty of the international politics and how strong countries can treat weaker ones, without any reasoning. They learned the eternal truth of ‘might makes right’.
     Like Machiavelli said, ‘before all, be armed’, the Chinese now know the importance of an aggressive defense-policy and a strong army, and how the lack of it will result into something like the numerous foreign incursions during that time again.
     Chinese simply lost their childlike innocence, being confronted with powers who will invade, rape and exploit you when you are weak, and actually massively profit from it; without a ‘god’ or a ‘buddhist meta-justice’ to punish them for doing something ‘morally bad’

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     • Jon

       Friday, January 1, 2010 at 9:24 pm

       I am not sure that the civilisation that produced Sun Tsu’s Art of War and the Thirty-six Strategems, that perfected balance-of-power politics under the Tributary system, that repeatedly conquered neighbouring areas like Xinjiang, Vietnam, etc., needs any help from the white man to ‘lose their childlike innocence’ about the world.
       Chinese civilisation has much to be proud of, both in past and present, without any need to invent a romanticised pre-Opium War era of lost, child-like innocence about the world.

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       • Hongjian

         Friday, January 1, 2010 at 11:16 pm

         Though China was always a war-plagued and very machiavellistic Kingdom before the violent western ‘opening up’, China was never been so much humilated than before.
         They did lost the childlike, innocent thinking, that they are the heavenly middle kingdom though. The centre of the world, with no equals.
         The western imperial powers and especially Japan, who was nothing more than a forgotten vassal before their meiji restauration, showed that China isnt that great anymore.
         So I stand to the statement that China lost its innocence for believing that the babarian world cannot harm it, and that it can remain arrogant and ignorant towards the outside.
         Before this, The british even proposed to trade chinese tea with ships and modern weapons, but the Qing court refused, saying; that ‘a civilized emprie such as the Qing, that already has everything, doesent need babarian weapons and only accepted silver for their Tea, what brought a gigantic trade deficit for the british, and what was one of the main reasons for the Opium War.
         This kind of naiive innocence and arrogance brought the downfall of China and only ended when Imperial soldiers charged with spears towards british musket lines.

         Nowadays, China learned to step down from that self-harming innocence, and will do everything neccessary to take its place in the world.

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         • Mike Fish

           Monday, January 4, 2010 at 2:23 pm

           Hongjian,

           Yeah, the Song Dynasty was probably far less humiliated by the Mongols… yeah, yeah, that makes sense…

           or are you one of those people who claim the Mongols are Chinese when it suits your purpose?
         • Hongjian

           Monday, January 4, 2010 at 9:46 pm

           Initially they were humilated by the Yuan, but after they assimilated the Mongols culturally, it cant be called humilation anymore. Vice-versa would be the case here.

           Also, when the Ming-Dynasty took over, they pushed the invaders out of the country, stomped into Mongolia, killed everyone and burned all their cities down to the ground as revenge. So, this humilation was paid back equally.
           So it wasnt really a humilation, when you took revenge for it. Something China cannot do today in the same manner – too bad. Would be cool to see the Big-ben etc. burning in the night, but at least when investment bankers are jumping from the roofs, and you know that you are the one fueling the crisis, then it is also a pretty satisfacory sight.
         • Mike Fish

           Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 12:01 am

           Hongjian,

           So it was humiliation but then it wasn’t humiliation because they got revenge? Seriously?

           And please, oh delussional one, tell me how you, or anyone, is fueling the “crisis”. Just because you are a giant asshole doesn’t mean it’s such a big deal as to make people kill themselves. Your inane arguments, circular logic, and inordinantly detailed knowledge of ordinance and military hardware might bore them to death, but they won’t jump off a building for that.
         • Hongjian

           Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 12:12 am

           China is fueling the crisis in the US by continuely lending them money and buy their debts to finance their decadent way of living. And since the US crisis resulted into the world financial crisis, China has a direct influence on it.

           Other than that, you dont seem to have any other arguments here to post, looking at your insults.
           Dont be a sour loser and shut the hell up. Go eat a bowl of lanzhou-lamien or something…
         • Mike Fish

           Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 8:37 am

           Hongjian,

           Is there any country that has any relationship with the US that isn’t also fueling the crisis? Does the crisis not also hurt almost every other country that is in that web? You laugh at the suffering of many people wh did nothing wrong. Criticism is one thing, but you revell in suffering and enjoy ridiculing those who are down whether they are part of the problem or just victims. You consistently make blanket bigoted statements and deserve everyone here’s scorn. Numerically more Chinese likely suffered from the US financial crisis, Chinese-Americans and Chinese alike. China’s continued economic success though substantial and certainly in most respects real is of course distorted. Besides, supporting the addictition of the American economy and praising China’s role is nothing to be proud of. As if you thought of that or have had anypart in it. Instead of being the drug dealer who is above it and and is smart enough to not use their own product, China is using the same product it is pushing. It has massive hidden debt that is accumulating by the second. Unlike China for the US, there won’t be anyone or anything that can help bail China out if there is ever a crisis here.
         • Hongjian

           Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 9:54 pm

           You obviously dont see the big advantage China has by sitting in the same boat with the US.

           For the US, China is only fueling their inefficient and decadent lifestyle, while being the evil commie to focus the hate of the redneck-majority, by providing the image of the bogeyman for their retarded movies like Red Dawn II and shit.
           But for China, the drug dealer, that not only got the US addicted, but also itself, this relationship is foremost a practical political leverage and backup to keep the US at bay, and also their own, party-internal fractions who are seeking direct confrontations with the established balance of power with the US and the West.
           “Keep your friends close, but your enemies even closer” is the obvious quote of the day here.
           And this strategical genius IS something to be proud of!
           Compared to the fate of the soviet union, who hadnt such a close relationship with the US, a total economical isolation of China would be practically unthinkable today – no matter whatever the sinophobic population in all western countries are crying about boycotting chinese goods or ending diplomatical relationship etc.; any pragmatical thinking politician wont ever risk the total wealth of their country and populance to destroy another nation only because whining people like you want it like this.

           And about the ‘numerical more suffering’ of the Chinese in the crisis: Well, so be it. Mainly the export-industry and the manufacturers of cheap goods in coast-regions like Guangzhou suffered heavily from the crisis in the West. The government and those people knew beforehand that their industry werent any stable in the long term to begin with. So this ‘sacrifice’ was actually a great and not really unwelcomed catalyst for the government to restructure the whole economic base of the country; away from export-oriented country to a domestic-consume-oriented industrialized country. Just like Japan; first living by exporting copied cheap goods and electronics to the West and the rest of the world, then transforming to a solid, consume-based domestic economy.
           Sooner or later, this unsustainable export-industy HAD TO die anyway. So the ‘death’ wasnt really that bad. At least the government is now forced to initiate the reform immediately.
         • Mike Fish

           Wednesday, January 6, 2010 at 9:01 am

           Hongjian,

           Your problem is, no matter what your ideas are and whether they are sound or not, you seem like some retarded obese football fan on the sidelines of geo-politics laughing and cat-calling, mocking and revelling in real people’s loss and suffering.
         • Hongjian

           Thursday, January 7, 2010 at 12:34 am

           haha.

           You cannot combat the truth with Moralfagging, Fish…

           People exist to be used by those with power and ambition. This is how the world works, so spare me with you childish naiivety and return to your fairy tales.
           If those people suffer anyway, so why should one not turn their suffering into something beneficial for the whole collective? This is just pragmatic and sound.
           And anyway: Who the fuck cares about people suffering? What can you do for them anyway? The world runs like this, and everyone, still stuck with the superman-fantasies of a stupid idealist youth who wants to ‘save the world’ and to ‘make humanity happy’, is unsuited for the real life.

           Morality doesent help anyone, only cold, hard power.
         • Mike Fish

           Sunday, January 10, 2010 at 11:46 am

           Hongjian,

           And you know all this how? Because you tried the idealist approach, tried helping the needy, and found it didn’t work? Or are you a very powerful person who has seen what great things your power can do? Or are you one of those pathetic little weak people who see all the power that being a pragmatic cold asshole will bring and you are jealous? BTW… give me your definition of power… I’m guessing it has something to do with big guns.
         • Hongjian

           Monday, January 11, 2010 at 1:50 am

           For example being deployed to Afghanistan, believing my country’s idealism of ‘bringing them democracy and freedom’ and in the end, seeing the reality and being utterly dissapointed with my former naiivety.

           And my definition of power: A combination of armament (yes, guns), strenght, education, intelligence, having the lead of information, an unrestricted mind without the bindings of moral, religion and principle, and the needed ambition to use these ruthlessly to gain total control over material, immaterial and organic objects, while being the subject of all things.
           Only this qualifies as ‘having power’ – all ideologies and religions claiming that YOU, an insignificant little human without any ‘hard currency’ to back your claims up, is enjoying ‘undisputable rights’ that allows you to ‘have power’ within and without a system, is pretty much a fucking fairy tale.
   • Hongjian

     Friday, January 1, 2010 at 3:19 am

     There’s this quote from Li Hongzhang, the Qing Chancellor at that time, stating: “Weak countries cannot afford diplomacy”

     This quote pretty much describes what the Chinese learned from that time: Be weak and docile and everyone will buttrape you without mercy. If you’re defenceless and have no power on your side, all treaties and all measures of diplomacy are all just a piece of paper without ability to
     save your ass from the rape of the powerful – only by becoming strong and screwing over everyone, just like the west, you can avoid the fate of an international rape-victim.

     So, things ‘that shouldnt have happened’, actually should have happened, because it’s the right of the strong to forcefully take what they want from the weak: This was the real lesson learned from the western imperialism in China.
     This ‘siege-mentality’ was actually a product from this learnings, because it just worked pretty well, seeing all the wealth and glory of those powers who raped China, especially Japan, got from it.

     Now China feels powerful and will apply the same proven western methods to its own uprising – what so bad and ‘unproportionale’ about it? Isnt this just Darwinism? The survival of the fittest? The weak gets eaten and the strong survives?

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     • dim mak

       Friday, January 1, 2010 at 5:28 pm

       I wouldn’t say we learned it that late, it’s clear the kind of power politics was well in play during the imperial years of the Tang and especially Ming dynasty. The kind of brutal pragmatism was applied to all of China’s neighbors in those days, for better or for worse.

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       • Hongjian

         Friday, January 1, 2010 at 11:22 pm

         Yeah the brutal power politics was played well inside China, against Chinese and their direct neighboring Tribes. But China first had to learn to step down from its high horse and to play dirty power-politics against ‘western babarians’, who where looked down at before they invaded China.
         China first had to realize, that one cannot stop gunboats and modern western line-infantry with just acting as the solely civilized nation in the world and just talking and looking down on the adversaries, but one has to treat them, like one treats with an equally civilized and capable enemy.

         In short: China learned not how to play power politics, but they learned that the Western powers were enemies, worth the power politics.

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     • ralphrepo

       Saturday, January 2, 2010 at 7:49 am

       So what you’re essentially saying is, that since China learned to do this from others, it is fair for it to go and rape the world like the Japanese did to it; and that likewise historically, it was fair for the west to rape China when it had the opportunity in the 1900′s; Based on this assumption the, SHOULD the opportunity arise again, the west may continue this attitude and rape China anew, if it could? Is this your interpretation of how civilization should conduct itself?

       I think your insular views misses out on the fact that historically, many in both Japan and the west argued against the colonialism and imperialistic actions of those times. An example would be Mark Twain, who had vehemently wrote his opposition to US imperialism or colonial involvement in Qing China and the far east. Similarly, despite the US today being thrown into war against Iraq, many American certainly opposed starting such a war.

       I also appreciate the fact that there are those in China that don’t take a political darwinistic viewpoint; that the world can live together without drawing blood at every turn.

       Recognize that even the origin of China was limited in this regard. Soon after the Qin conquered her neighbors, it itself fell. Your rationale for belligerence certainly has emotional resonance with Chinese nationalists at the moment, however, with Chinese historians, it is seen as exactly the type of attitude that had flung China into more wars than can be counted. This all means suffering for Chinese people which I certainly don’t want any part of.

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       • Hongjian

         Saturday, January 2, 2010 at 11:54 pm

         If one is weak and has no means to defend oneself whatsoever, then it is one’s own fault when the strong
         act as they should.
         So I dont blame Japan and the Western Imperial powers for their invasions, massacres and rape in China, since they are only like animals, predators, wolfes who will follow their nature and hunting anyone who cant defend oneself. All the pain China has to suffer from 1848-1949 and beyond, was entirely its own fault.
         And what is ‘Civilization’? Wasnt this very same word used as a excuse to invade and colonize the weak nations? ‘Civilization’, as a concept of peace, is just an invention of the same obese and wealthy people, who have killed, raped and pillaged enough weaklings, got powerful and rich by it, and now have the luxury to lean back and enjoy sweet morality.
         Practically the same as in Coppenhagen, where the rich countries who achieved their industrial level through pollution are now demanding that everyone has to go back to stone-age and should not achieve the same wealth like them.

         So dont talk as if raping, robbing and pillaging the weak hasnt brought massive profit for the ones doing it! All the holier-than-thou-talk IS ONLY possible, BECAUSE these strong nations has profitted massively through their social darwinist behavior. All those intellectuals who spout their moralfagging crap about opposition and morality, while drinking colonial coffee and tea, wearing clothes made of slave-labour cotton and propably having slaves themselves (or in case of Japan; studied in the Tokio University that was build with the very same silver that Japan got from China from ‘reparations’ of the lost first-sino-japanese war) arent very convincing in my eyes. The same with Iraq and Afghanistan nowadays – the innocent civilians, called ‘collateral damage’, sure were helped in their death to know that there are hippies and liberals in the US and their ‘coalition of the willing’ who are ‘strongly opposing starting this war’. What a argument! People are attacking and robbing me, but I shouldnt hate them because some of them ‘are argueing against’ or ‘vehemently writing their opposition against’ the fact that I am being raped in the butt right now. Convincing!

         And good that you mentioned the Qin-unification. Their Dynasty fell down, but the Ideology, Concept and Idea of a unified China as a normative, historical factor (and not to mention the unification of the writing language) still survived to that day.
         So isnt this just another proof that violence and political darwinism actually was, is and always will be a viable option?
         What I’m stating here isnt as ‘extreme’ as it sounds. The fact that the Cold-War didnt get ‘hot’ was exactly because there are people who arent thinking like you and disarm oneself, hoping for a “world that can live together without drawing blood at every turn”, but were preparing enough nukes and enough tanks to make sure that the MAD – the Mutual Assured Destruction – will protect ones people against others, and thus protecting a shaky ‘peace’ in the world.

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         • Hongjian

           Monday, January 4, 2010 at 9:54 pm

           Erm… there’s already a book with all my drivel in one Volume: “Unhappy China – The Great Time, Grand Vision and Our Challenges” by Song Qiang, Huang Jisu, Song Xiaojun, Wang Xiaodong and Liu Yang.

           read it. shit is so cash.
           and my drivel here pales in comparrisson to these fine gentlemen’s envisioned strategy of how China should fuck with the world.
       • Hongjian

         Sunday, January 3, 2010 at 12:05 am

         And about the question wether the West should rape China again, if the opportunity arises, I only say YES, They should. Or rather, Yes, they already are doing it. Their funding of oppositionals, dissents and militant minorities in China is already a attempt to prepare China to be raped again, If China cannot protect itself from these attempts.
         If China one day weakens and falls, and the wolfes are gathering around its corpse again to consume it, then China deserved everything it got. The Nature doesent tolerate weakness.

         That’s why China has to remain strong and do anything to prevent such a fate, by becoming a wolf itself.

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         • Mike Fish

           Monday, January 4, 2010 at 2:18 pm

           Hongjian,

           The US’s attempts to fund that kind of dissent are so ridiculous and inept as to be laughable. To suggest that as a real threat and to imply that the lion’s share of China’s internal unrest is somehow prompted or fueled by the US is absurd. If the US’s political destabilization is so powerful, explain Cuba.

           Also, your wolf analogy sucks. A wolf won’t kill another wolf. China should become a tiger. But, instead, it is blindly doing just as you say, becoming just like America, fat on hamburgers, living on credit, flooded by base material culture, and roused by moronic nationalist bullshit like what you spout. Your lot are similar to the Pat Buchanan types, uber nationalist hate mongering small penised bigots hiding behind a smokescreen of pseudo-intellectualism.
         • Hongjian

           Monday, January 4, 2010 at 9:21 pm

           Sure these dissents are inept, when thinking that they have successfully disturbed an entire summer-olympics with their moralfagging. And what I’m reading the entire time in the internet? Charta-08? Nobody cares about this shit in China and only 10.000 people signed it out of 300 million netizens in total, but the western media is still acting as if a Chinese Martin Luther has just pinned his 95 thesis’ on a church-door in Wittenberg.

           Ah, my wolf analogy sucks eh? Again, I’m just an uncreative chinese copycatting superior western thinking. Check ‘Thomas Hobbes’ and ‘Leviathan (book)’ on wikishit and then declare that one of the major philosopher of enlightment had used a shit analogy to end the thinking of medieval-age.
         • Mike Fish

           Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 12:10 am

           Congrats! You repeated something a famous guys said… YOU WIN! I’ll quote Hobbes, the cartoon tiger, when he said “You are a moron”.
         • Hongjian

           Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 12:16 am

           Did you actually read about Hobbes and his theory of state and society? Do you know what ‘Homo homini Lupus’ fucking means?!

           Dont be a Fish. Educate yourself.
   • Hongjian

     Friday, January 1, 2010 at 3:21 am

     Vietnam and India… These countries are still pretty weak. Their lack of aggresive ambitions and lack of ‘siege-mentality’ towards their former western imperialist powers, only show that they where raped until broken and have already lost their dignity. They didnt learned the lesson of the imperial time.

     This is nothing to be proud of.

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   • Hongjian

     Friday, January 1, 2010 at 3:30 am

     And about Mao and his utilized Ideology of Communism. This is just another point that proves how Western influence can only bring massive misery upon the Chinese people.

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   • LOLZ

     Friday, January 1, 2010 at 5:49 am

     I can see it now: jon walking to African Americans and tell them “look, I know slavery is wrong, but other slaves like those in India and the mideast has suffered far worse than your 200 years in the US. You are all being manipulated by the Al Sharpton and other elite negros for their own gain. So why don’t y’all just STFU and get ‘em fried chikkenz”

     Or jon talking to your average abused women: “Look, I know that being abused by your husband is a crappy thing, but you should consider yourself to be lucky because there are far worse domestic abuse cases out there. Your husband didn’t even sell you into the whore house. You are all being manipulated by the femi-nazi movement. So why don’t you just STFU and go back to the kitchen!”

     Heck jon’s logic would even work on pro-china propaganda as well: “Look Tibetans, I know that being taken over the Chinese is bad, but losing your land to the Chinese is not so bad because others have suffered far more than you for far longer. Plus, your existing theocracy is crap anyway. The Lama system made sure that nothing would be produced because 70% of your population was praying rather than working.”

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     • Jon

       Friday, January 1, 2010 at 9:31 pm

       You are putting words in my mouth and then laughing at the result. I acknowledged what happened was bad and never suggested anyone ‘stfu.’ I am merely pointing out that the over-emphasis of Western imperial incursions on the part of the Chinese government is cynical, misleading, and a source of needless tension and xenophobia.
       A similar point was made in a Chinese journal not long ago. If you google the Yuan Weishi essay that got the Chinese journal ‘Freezing Point’ shut down you will see a more in-depth discussion of this problem.

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       • Hongjian

         Friday, January 1, 2010 at 11:34 pm

         Why are the xenophobia and the tensions towards the west needless? The west has clearly a political aganda to destabilizing and containing China; they are building military bases around China, having military alliances against China and are openly campaigning with ‘stopping China’ in their own elections.
         So, what tensions are ‘needless’ here? The fearmongering West that wants to see China as a failed third-world Nation with its own disastrous Gorbatshov and Yeltsin years of embraced freedom, democracy, misery, weakness and downfall? Or China, thats reminding their people to never forget historical humilations, so that even our most westenized post-90 Generation would have a basic understanding about how cruel and ill-minded the western world can be, towards the weakness of one own, as shown everyday in all the countries they have inva- erm.. freed?

         There’s nothing ‘misleading, cynical and needless’ when there’s potential outwards aggression against one own. China just learned not to be so stupid like Saddam, who gave in the pressure and destroyed all his weapons he could have used to defend against the inevitable Invasion of the Western coalition.

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         • Mike Fish

           Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 9:31 am

           Fighting aggression, potential or real and now, is what any country should do. Some do it without whining and constantly playing the victim card though. Others, that’s all they can do.
       • LOLZ

         Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 2:06 am

         Of course I am putting words in your mouth, but only by following your own logic. As you can see your argument can easily lead yourself down to some dangerous (and NON-Politically correct)slippery slopes.

         Did the Chinese over-emphasis on certain part of its history? Maybe, but it’s very silly to quantity how much a group has suffered verses another and then tell others on what should be forgiven and what should be not.

         Mind you, this tension is hardly needless. It helps the Chinese government to focus on its own self interest because its citizens demand so. It also helps its own citizens to relief stress and anger.

         Other governments does it too and China is the target of blames from the loss of jobs to the destruction of the whole planet. Maybe you should tell the US/British politicians to stop fanning the xenophobic tensions against China only to cover up for their own incompetence.

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         • Mike Fish

           Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 9:25 am

           We are all human. So it’s important to have some perspective. It’s important to look at others’ history and how they dealt with it, how a catastrophe, crisis, or tragedy was reacted to and recovered from. It should always be more about the idea that others have likely suffered similar to or worse than you and you can learn from that rather than “my suffering is unique and nobody else can ever understand it”.
   • Kai

     Saturday, January 2, 2010 at 9:55 pm

     Jon,

     Hongjiang reminds me of Andy Lau’s character in A World Without Thieves. I can understand his understanding of the past and his rationalizations for how they can guide China forward, but I also appreciate your explicit agreement that Western imperialism had a lot of negative effects and your personal belief that it shouldn’t have happened and should never happen again.

     I agree with you that the CCP manipulates and exploits that period. I agree that many of the ways it does so are objectionable and worthy of exasperated contempt.

     I also strongly agree that Chinese people cannot afford to blame only others for what happened in the past. I’ve made this point several times on this website. Chinese people have the power to influence what can and cannot happen to them.

     I don’t, however, understand what is so “bizarre” about how I described the Mao era. As far as I understand history, I don’t see how any part of my characterization is incorrect.

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5. Evalinsapple

   Friday, January 1, 2010 at 5:33 am

   Only the smartest deserve to reproduce like this. Even then, we have limited resources.

   It’s interesting that in America there are a lot of ignorant impoverished twenty somethings that are having tons of children and Republicans don’t want to allow abortion to be covered under health insurance.

   More children aren’t always the answer. Clever and creative is.

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   • LOLZ

     Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 2:18 am

     The conservatives in the US are very easy to troll. Just tell them that abortion helps to reduce welfare and you will have the social conservatives fighting against the fiscal conservatives.

     Sadly, there is a negative correlation between education levels and the number of off srpings. So statistically, smart people do not reproduce while the dumb ones breed like rabbits :) We are doomed.

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6. Evalinsapple

   Friday, January 1, 2010 at 5:55 am

   I think I am in love.

   I used to be a buddhist until I read Siddhartha. He spent have his life begging which led to enlightenment and the other half with whores and wasting someone else’s fortune.

   In order to be enlightened, don’t you have to take care of yourself?

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7. Evalinsapple

   Friday, January 1, 2010 at 5:59 am

   In Siddartha, an aspiring buddhist spends half his life begging and the other half f*cking prostitues and wasting someone else’s money. Part of enlightenment is taking care of yourself.

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8. Master C

   Friday, January 1, 2010 at 9:12 am

   Title and article has no relevance. Nothing against mixed marriages from natural scenarios but obviously Eurasian children are not ethnic Chinese or Caucasian? Read here what diluting bloodlines in this manner will result in.

   Facebook group : “Orthodox Taoism”
   http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=32664919942

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9. Hardlifeinchina

   Friday, January 1, 2010 at 9:18 pm

   What to say then about this Young Chinese(33 years old), from JiangSu province, handing Two African passports, a Chinese passport (renewed in february 2008), and married “officially” with one (1) british lady (with Two Kids), double-married with one (1) african lady (with Four Kids; 3 biologicals and 1 adopted from orphanage), and lately engaged with 1 shanghainese girl while datting a hometown YangZhou pretty girl?
   Since he still running prosperously a business between China and Africa, nobody s asking him to justify his acts.
   I appreciating his Harmonious Living way”.

   Happy New year, dear mates!!!

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10. jack butcher

    Friday, January 1, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    there was a white man in chinasmack who said my sister would never had sex with chinese guy. why this women have so many children with chinese guy. her pussy must be oversize now to have ten children

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    • maroon

      Monday, January 4, 2010 at 2:37 am

      You are such a stupid moron..she has 10 lovely children and another thing why would you care how big her pu**y is, are you planning on screwing her? Get your mind out of the gutter!

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11. Evalinsapple

    Saturday, January 2, 2010 at 3:00 am

    Stop importing so many brides to U.S. and start sending some men!

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12. fireworks

    Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 11:10 am

    This article about this guy having 10 kids. Good for him but I don’t think the majority of the Chinese would have the financial means to bring them. Maybe 4 would be max any Chinese family would have and 2 the minimum outside of China. The Brady bunch family model is out the window and is replaced by the little emperors.

    As developing countries mature, women become more sophisticated, more independent, more income, more highly educated, me fist mentality and have children in the early to late 30s. Western economies have slowing birth rates.

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13. AmericansPerception

    Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Chinese are very welcome to emigrate to defeat Jew-controlled Western countries, as long as they want to sleep in all of Jews’ houses, Jews’ schools, Jews’ colleges, Jews’ nightclubs, Jews’ synagogues, Jews’ restaurants, Jews’ workplaces, Jews’ driveways, Jews balconies, Jews’ roofs, Jews’ chimneys, Jews’ study rooms, Jews’ libraries, Jews’ gyms, etc.

    Great, if 5 million Chinese are emigrating to push Jews out of Israel. This will be greatest news in the mankind history.

    Very wonderful if Chinese invade to sleep in Rothschild bankers’ mansions – bedrooms, kitchens, restrooms, living rooms, hallways, stairs, attics, etc. They are very welcome to have extramaritial affairs with all of Jews’ wives and husbands. The cheating spouses will be able to give births of many illegitmate children – half Jewish and Chinese mutants and monsters. Jews (Jewish citizens of Israel, UK, U.S., South Africa, Australia, Europe, Russia, and Canada), not Chinese illegal immigrants, are required to pay 100% for the child supports.

    It will be very nice if Chinese dump their Communist beliefs for Buddhism, after they emigrate. Zionism, Judaism, Communism, and Christianity are all Jews’ products. They, including Islam, are worst of all. Buddhism is the best and most realistic religion.

    “1 million Jews are not worth a Chinese fingernail”.

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    • OyGevalt!

      Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 2:46 pm

      What a twat! Anti-Semitism is soooo last century. Why don’t you find a more au-courant form of bigotry, like hating emos and gingers or not leaving Britney alone?

      (Fine, fine, I’ll leave you to your translating ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ into Chinglish)

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14. VeerLeft

    Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    1. This guy has totally not kept up his half of the genetic hybridization theory of enhancement. Unless those kids all have ESP or something… however…way to go, you sir, have OVERACHIEVED.

    2. Hongjian makes many pertinent points…however as observant as he is he ignores many other evident facts, characteristics and occurrences that all affect the outcome of international conflict. I fear that the current PRC is a House built on a foundation of sand, and as such has much greater worries than if the neighbours have a nicer roof.

    3. On a lighter note… you fuck us financially…we fuck you LITERALLY. It’s anyones guess who will win?! Happy 2010 mutafuckas!
    *BTW* this is how China colonised the upper 1/3rd of many South Asian countries. Concubines…

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15. SauLaan

    Wednesday, January 6, 2010 at 2:32 am

    Unless you came from Mars, there’s no such thing as “bloodline” and “maintaining the bloodline” and all that rot.

    The “bloodline” is changed by 50% the minute you have kids, and any attempt at “purity” gets you nothing better than recessive genetic conditions!

    One World – or is it “One World, but keep everyone in certain pens like dog breeds…???”

    Globalization has begun; there’s nothing anyone can do about it. We’re all going to mix — as humans have done from the beginning of time.

    Time to worry less about “looks” and worry more about happiness, health, and peace.

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16. Knowing

    Friday, January 8, 2010 at 5:55 am

    His logic does not make sense, he is way off the mark, might have to re-marry to achieve his goal. It would have made sense if he: Married a European-Chinese or Married a Chinese in China then emigrate to Europe.
    Your kids, when they become adults, would class themselves as British and will find it funny if you told them why you married their mum and had so many children, it is laughable.

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17. crystal

    Sunday, January 10, 2010 at 11:17 am

    LuShan is in Jiangxi Province, not Hunan

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18. opensights

    Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 6:21 am

    I think it is perhaps a fake! the ages that the children appear to be does not span the time needed to produce them. Also With mixed Chinese/English marriages the children are predomenantly dark haired and with regular and often handsome features, more of a Chinese face than English. I have never seen fair haired children in mixed asian/European(Eurasian} Children. Incidently I am one of a family of eight sons and two sisters! not uncommon in England 38/40 years ago.

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19. BBC

    Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 11:02 am

    This is quite disturbing. No, not the family in question (though if they had been unemployed I would be furious, like with all the other chav families breeding on taxpayers expenses), but 99% of the comments here and the way the original article was twisted in the Chinese version. Original article (bearing in mind this is the Daily Mail – who one day hates immigrants, the next praises the goodwill of one) is about a woman wanting to marry but being put off because she was always pregnant. Oh, dilemma!

    Yet somehow this turned into a Chinese invasion of Europe? Whatever. Why don’t we hear such comments when a chinese woman and white man have kids – a chinese invasion of sorts?

    To all extents and purposes, they will be British – I guess the BNP and Nazis will say otherwise and will still experience racism, but they will speak English, act English and be English. They won’t need to invade Britain, because it’s already theirs.

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20. .....

    Monday, January 25, 2010 at 7:27 am

    I support this guy, every other race is fine but the White race needs to be destroy not by violence but by constant promotion of multi-racial and completly wipe out of white race gene pool. The less of them the better, the world would be a better place without these foreign white devils.

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21. Miya

    Saturday, February 20, 2010 at 10:01 am

    Those children are very lovely, Mixed race is beautiful. although i have no idea what he is trying to prove. china has policy because there is too many people lol cannot change this.

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22. Steep

    Monday, February 22, 2010 at 8:34 am

    So the idea that the Chinese nation can rise up and defeat foreigners through immigration is ridiculous.

    If you want more Chinese in this world, protest against the China’s government in dropping the One-Child policy. The reason why the One-Child policy is in place is because your homeland is struggling to support people it already has (i.e. natural resources, availability of land, jobs, healthcare, etc.)

    The claim also erroneously assumes several things:

    -That other nations does not have the right to enforce its border and immigration laws. If they don’t want any more Chinese or other foreigners in their country, it is their right to close the border and you can’t do anything about it. It is their sovereignty just like it is China’s to close its border with N. Korea.

    -So the author is advocating this “half-chinese” population to rally against the “white people” as he puts it. Does he think that the non-chinese spouse is so stupid that they will let the Chinese spouse totally dominate and shut-out he/her own cultural identity. So is the net really more “Half-Chinese” or “half-White People”. Maybe the wife in the article wears the panties in the family and his own Chinese culture will be diluted.

    -Chinese people have this “we are racially superior mentality” which is stupid. How does you being Chinese or any other nationality make a difference in this world? The important thing is to be proud of your heritage but what values are you teaching your children (not all Western values are bad, just as not all Chinese values are all wonderful).

    The reason why the “white people” dominated was because of their creativity and ability, but like China dominated all of Asia and the world in the earlier civilization. So give the white people their due just like the Chinese people deserve to be recognized for their contributions to the world. Also, instead of complaining at why the white people have 6)% of the world’s land, why don’t you look at why China (one country has 25% of the world’s population). The ancient Chinese agrarian society of preferring males vs. females also contributed to this (males would later take care of their aging parents) as farmer’s would have large families in the hope of having as much sons as possible. Without this China’s population would be even smaller.

    Finally, it is frightening what a majority Chinese world would be like. With it’s “me-first”, do anything at all cost to serve my interests mentality, and the exploitations of the natural resources, I don’t think our world would be a better place. All the shark’s would have long disappeared (eaten for shark fin soup), tigers would like disappeared (for herbal medicine), bears disappeared (for their bile), fish species would be threatened (for their water pollution in the name of economic development), etc. Scary.

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    • SLX

      Monday, February 22, 2010 at 8:44 am

      First of all this thread is just retarded…. I doubt anyone would even think of something like 1 step closer to dominating the world when they marry someone.

      Why the hell protest against the Chinese government?
      The one child policy is great.
      The government is doing a better job than most people expected.

      If China wasn’t a Communist country it would never develop so fast in such a short time, even though it restricted a lot of things in the past but its very moderate right now compared to other communist countries.

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      • Steep

        Monday, February 22, 2010 at 9:24 am

        Agree with you this thread is retarded. Ok, no one is serious about dominating the world through marriage.

        Disagree with one point though: China would have been much farther along economically, maybe even a developed country (in terms of the maturity of its technology and individual markets, not necessarily the per capita income of its population) if China was a democratic free market 60 years ago. Their fast pace growth the last 10-15 years is because they had a lot of catching up for the previous 60 years. With the determination and work ethic of the Chinese people, their economic machine would have been much farther along. It would have been Hong Kong and Taiwan times 1000.

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23. Mike

    Saturday, March 6, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    The story even the origens of the story are fake, pencils are incapable of producing ten children.

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24. damn

    Monday, July 5, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    Wat a dumbass loser..so racist and nationalist..pathetic individual. I feel sorry for the wife and the kids, who will later find out that they are just ‘devices’ conceived by their father to ‘defeat’ the white people

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25. R-Son

    Wednesday, July 28, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    If this dude really wanted to take over the Western world, then all his kids would have had Asian names….

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26. SE962582C

    Tuesday, September 21, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!

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27. MooMooRanch (aka BBC)

    Sunday, September 26, 2010 at 12:17 am

    This article is quite misinformed, because due to the numbers of white men with chinese women vs the other way round, it would take lots of chinese men-white women couples with 10 kids to even make a dent… as it is, this is the only pair I have seen.

    On TV recently about boarding schools it interviewed parents watching their kids settle in… guess who we got to see, a chinese-white boy with an all white name (and a weird American accent), with a creepy white man as the husband/partner… it’s horrible to see the race so whitewashed, and at such a fast rate – culture, name, heritage – all wiped out in a generation, another 2 generations and they will become indistinguishable from a white person.

    There is a massive female shortage in China right now – sure, it’s their own government’s fault – but estimates show that 24 MILLION men will be single and never have children. To see white men exacerbating the problem further, taking more available women from the country, is extremely painful to watch, powerless to do anything. Couples like this one are incredibly rare – near impossible to find, certainly in everyday life – yet the number of white men and asian couples I see are frequent and growing. White women however are not left out – it seems the white men going for these asian/chinese women are rather tarnished, and have had previous history of broken families with such white women – that is the reason why they want a fresh start with chinese women.

    In essence, white men are taking white women AND chinese/asian women as their partners (the former when young, latter when old) – rather a case of chinese “defeating” foreigners, it is the other way round. At this current rate the native Chinese population in China will have reduced by half due to the lack of women, whilst the chinese/asian population abroad will have been assimilated to the white population – names, history, everything. The chinese women who live in the west will die off, leaving only white heritage, something that would have stayed chinese if she had picked a chinese/asian man.

    Meanwhile, the white women (by now single mothers) will still see their children grow up “white” – no loss of heritage.

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28. SLX

    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Lol, please back up you comments before you assume anything.

    Over all you know nothing about them, there are lotz of possibilities.

    We are not 14-18 most are well over that age for one I’m 23y/o

    You are straying off from the main topic and bagging everyone out. LOL Mr Internet warrior?

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29. LOLZ

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    “In China if one of your grandfathers is China but everyone else is French you are a Chinaman. ”

    No you doofus, it depends on the way you look, and it’s not only in China that people are judged that way. If you are 1/4th Chinese and look like John Gosslin then of course everyone will still call you a chink in the West. But who the hell in China thinks Keanu Reeves is a fellow Chinese although his grandfather is Chinese?

    Look at Tiger Woods and Obama, they are mixed but they are all considered to be African Americans. Forget the fact that at least one of their parents is white and they were brought up in “white” culture, they are all expected to protect their “own race” (not mixed, but African Americans specifically) by people from both the left and the right.

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30. Somethin Somethin

    Monday, January 4, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    Hey I read this at work thank you very much

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31. Ranger_Lost_in_Mordor

    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    I’m not looking for women, but skanky mecenary Americunts

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32. Promo

    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    Jones….it’s really funny to think about. I mean, why is their minds always about defeating and defeating…few years back, they were begging for food. Jeez, “Allowed ,and now looking for Allowance”

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33. beowulf

    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    In Uiygur Regions of Xinjiang the Uygurs are still the majority. The only change was, that Han Chinese cities like Urumqi grew a lot. In 1949 Urumqi was a small village now it is a big city.

    If you look at the geographical population distribution you will see there were no big change at all.

    The numbers you said are just a way to abuse statistic for political propaganda. About uighur language and university – the University of Urumqi offers different branch of studies in Uigur and Kazakh.

    Just go to the homepage and check it, and do not believe everything kadeer and the western propaganda machine is telling you.

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34. akbar lo

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 3:13 am

    freedom of mobility anyone ?

    i’m glad the CCP allows their citizens to practice one of the fundamental human rights.

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35. new chinese farmer

    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    “china is not a race”,thats a new concept to me!!!is anyone willing to explain that?

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36. tripe

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    Chinese is infact something much more distinct than a race, it’s 93% demographically Han ethnicity. When people refer to China they refer to the general consensus among the Han ethnic group. We, Hans, have strong family values passed down from classical confucianism. The sysnthesis of a pure ethnic (not racial) majority + history + confucianism, naturally leads to strong nationalism.

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37. scrat map

    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    i don’t believe everything kadeer and the western propaganda machine is telling me. But unfortunately I also am blocked access to the university of urumqi’s homepage to verify what you say is true. pity…

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38. Uyghur

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 11:38 am

    Since July 5 of 2008, Chinese blocked all the Uyghur websites, arrested more than 2000 people

    In your logic, everything CNN or BBC reported consider as ” anti Chinese”, and all trues are lying on your Communist control CCTV or ” The people’s daily”

    Grew up in Eastern Turkistan as an Uyghur I know that the Chinese are the most bias people on earth

    Shame on you! you slave of Communists!!!

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39. Hongjian

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 12:58 am

    A phenomena would be, that mostly the chinese women are the dominant ones in a foreigners family, and also the ones who will set the family culture, which is then clearly chinese-influenced.

    I come from such a family: A firm German Landser with perfectly aryan genes, married with a small chinese women, who managed to turn him into a full fledged Chinese over the time.

    In this case, it’s not a racial assimilation, but a cultural one – and this is the strongest form of assimilation.

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40. hahahahha

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 1:16 am

    In fact all the world is copying western culture…

    Asian included…

    It’s cultural not racial!

    Do not use ur personal story to make unrealistic thesis!

    Check the reality my friend! ;-)

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41. LOLZ

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 12:57 am

    Hongjain is on to something here. According to the ever so reliable and “accurate” wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage

    “By the 14th century, the total population of Muslims in China had grown to 4 million.[18] After Mongol rule had been overthrown by the Ming Dynasty in 1368, this led to a violent Chinese backlash against West and Central Asians. In order to contain the violence, the Ming administration instituted a policy where all West and Central Asian males were required to intermarry with native Chinese females, hence assimilating them into the local population. Their descendants are today known as the Hui people.[17]”

    So that was the Chinese master plan for cultural dominance. I would say that the Chinese is actually pretty enlightened. Imagine European governments encourage white womenz to marry the “rag heads” in order to fight the islamic “insurgence”; I would bet that lynching and draggings would go through the roof as the ever so insecure whities go on a rampage against the minority groups.

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42. bleah

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Good sir, can I have a look at your ahnenpass?

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43. Mike Fish

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Explain which dominant cultural traits these women like your mom bring.

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44. thd

    Friday, January 1, 2010 at 1:08 am

    Well, if my Chinese wife made me culturally Chinese, the first thing I’d do is break her feet and take a concubine.
    I love what Chinese people define as traditional.

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45. Hongjian

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 1:20 am

    disproved.

    not really.

    the western culture isnt venerated, but it’s popular culture, because it’s the symbol of wealth and decadence. All the developing countries want to have the western lifestyle of wealth and extravagance, but hardly anyone wants to copy their mentality.

    there’s this difference.

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46. IC

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 3:53 am

    It defines class.

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47. Hongjian

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 4:19 am

    hit a wounded nerve?

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48. FYIADragoon

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 4:01 am

    I’m just referring to the other end of the spectrum of racism that plagues China. There’s nothing wrong with demanding equality.

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49. beowulf

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 4:13 am

    You are blocked to access to the university of urumqi´s homepage????

    By the way, even as a foreign exchange student it is possible to study uigur or kazhak language and culture there:
    http://www.chinatefl.com/xinjiang/study/xj-uni.html

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50. Marx

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 4:15 am

    You’re right that it is a nationality, but in our modern popular understanding of race, most nationalities have become races. It’s considered “racist” to call a Japanese person a “Jap”, even though you’re technically right that the Japanese are a nationality.

    Perhaps “discriminatory” or “prejudiced” might be better ways to refer to this type of name calling, but racism is definitely the more popular descriptive term.

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51. Alikese

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 2:30 am

    Not to be a pedant, but I think “Asian” isn’t really a race. Han, Uyghur, Khmer, etc. are all races, and are definitely mutually distinguishable from each other. So China is made up of many races, which could all (mostly) be put under the umbrella-term “Asian.”

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52. Hongjian

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 4:17 am

    nice words. shit thing is just, that the methods and the intellectual basis of ‘getting beyond it’ is based on the achievments of the western culture, in the same way as the enlightment that ended the christian dark ages, was actually a product of christianity.

    only fools would believe that culture is unimportant.

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53. LOLZ

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 5:19 am

    Try to tell that to The Tibetans!

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54. Hongjian

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 4:24 am

    thanks to the mentioned achievements/delusions of ‘openess’, ‘tolerance’ and ‘democracy’, people tend to cling on political correctness when speaking about interracial relationships. But forcing oneself to be politically correct, doesent mean that the biological program of self-preservation, planted in the human brain since the dawn of evolution is now deactivated.

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55. hahahahha

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 4:29 am

    Looks like some fuckin chinese LAOWAI <—- ;-) looks for a revenge!

    I know it is hard to be umiliated and I know u r desperately looking for a reveange!

    But it will not end as u think my friend!

    Humanity is going to mix not to became a chinese colony!

    Sorry mate…;-)

    U live in crazy and (for ya) scary world!

    Laowai <—:-)LAO WAI

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56. Hongjian

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 4:43 am

    Sorry mister hahawhatever,

    English is not my first language, so it seems that your, sir’s, english seems to be too high and noble for me to understand.

    So, I hereby plead you to formulate your post in a more appropriate linguistic fashion, so that I, a lowly beggar, may be able to understand your intellectually sophisticated intention.

    Thank you, good sir.

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57. hahahahha

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 4:53 am

    U have not the brain! what do u want understand?

    “Assimilate” some vitamins maybe u will be smarter soon…

    Good luck my friend!

    ps: call us when u will need water and clean air, ok?

    It looks like in 90 years more or less u will run out of water and u have already destroyed 1/3 of ur actual potable water…:-)
    What a great civilization u r… Impressive ;-)

    U have for sure an higher QI…;-)

    How is goin’desertification? Still good? ;-)

    U need help?

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58. bleah

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    enlightment that ended the christian dark ages, was actually a product of christianity.

    Ah I see, you went to school in Bavaria. :)

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59. Hongjian

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 4:35 am

    you dont understand the analogy.

    Chinese are well known as the only people in the world who are able to out-jew the jews. Of course only with the exception, that China didnt get German submarines for free, because of it.
    But this analogy stands; Chinese are, like the jews, very potent in terms of doing business, value education above all, and also possess this special ruthlessness, that gets them hated by their neighbors.

    no offence towards the jews here, they are pretty cool people with a nice military bodycount.

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60. SLX

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 7:05 am

    You are one of them, at least talking shit online is what one of those do everyday.

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61. LOLZ

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 7:40 am

    Oh this is rich, so you are judging a race/culture by the nobel prize numbers now. Is that the same prize which Arafat won? And Obama just won it recently too, after sending more troops to afghanistan. Tell me that the prize is not politicized?

    How about this: World Bank reported this april that China had lifted more people out of poverty than rest of the world combined in the last twenty years. Tell me that is not a bigger accomplishment for the human race than the other bs prizes which the Nobel gives out every year.

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62. Hongjian

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 11:24 am

    you misunderstood something I think. I’ve never seen any fingerpointing and blaming towards Japanese, Europeans, Americans and Russians etc. for us being a supposed shitty race/nationality without those Bullshitprize achievements or something.

    The truth is, some of us just fucking hate and wanting to kill all of the above mentioned, without any reason to blame them at all. Which is OK in my book, since this is the right attitude for a coming dominant power who will enslave half of the world.

    No more peace-loving, tree-hugging and moral-apostleing faggotry.

    Only pure and clean irrational, baseless hate.

    CHINA FUCK YEAR!

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63. LAOWAIXIAN

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 11:24 am

    hehe, you guys are right, well just in case…

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64. Kai

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Who’s “us”? Believe it or not, China today is the land of opportunity for many people in the world. You mentioned narcissism above.

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65. Mongoloid

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 11:38 am

    He sounds very bitter for some reason. Personal experiences perhaps?

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66. Mongoloid

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    Funny that such an inane story has managed to expose GuoBao’s insecurities for all to see.

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67. Mongoloid

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    What is an East Turkistan?

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68. LOLZ

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 12:35 am

    “Grew up in Eastern Turkistan as an Uyghur I know that the Chinese are the most bias people on earth”

    Actually Uighurs such as yourself are far more biased than the ordinary Chinese. If you go on your typical “east turkey-stan” and “free tibet’ sites you will find far more racist comments and hate against Chinese people than most white racist sites.

    Do you honestly think the average Chinese will hate you and prejudge you, as much as you do to them?

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69. Kai

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    I voted your first comment up but I had to vote this one down. I agree with you that it’s alarming that anyone has the idea they have to “defeat” another one, especially on ethnic/national/racial terms. However, while I agree there is a misconception that the world is out to get them [the Chinese], I think that issue deserves some elaboration.

    As it is, much of the world (not everyone, but a whole lot of people) is notable apprehensive, even fearful of modern China. You have people of the world’s (by far) most powerful nation making movies suggesting that the Chinese are going to invade them. You have activists and people from all of the developed countries criticizing nearly every aspect of China trying to modernize itself and stand on its feet.

    Not long after centuries of China being subject to imperialism and colonialism. You can’t ask them to forget parts of their past while you criticize them for whitewashing or rewriting parts of it at the same time. That Chinese people have been threatened and exploited by much of the current world’s most dominant nations and civilizations is a fact and I don’t begrudge them for remembering it just as Jews, blacks, or minorities everywhere remember their own historical oppression or subjugation.

    There was a time, not that long ago, where many nations WERE wolves, waiting to pounce on China. British, Portugese, Americans, Russians, Japanese, etc. Yeah, the world has, in many ways, changed and moved on, but there remain geo-political interests that nations continue to pursue, albeit in more subtle and deft ways for a more sophisticated and subtle modern global political environment.

    Both Sun Yat-Sen, Chiang Kai-shek, and Mao Zedong’s governments had their support from the Chinese people because they promised to modernize China and make it strong in the face of a world where developed countries exercise disproportionate influence and power relative to their size and populations. The “People’s Government” DID in many ways “stand up and put those pesky foreigners in their place.” Sun Yat-sen did this by overthrowing the inept Qing Dynasty, Chiang Kai-shek carried on battling the invading Japanese, and Mao Zedong closed the country off to figure things out (whatever his ultimate failures were).

    It is dangerous to dismiss, disregard, or belittle how much the Chinese people (not all, but many) do indeed look to their governments to protect their interests. This is no different from citizens of most other countries, just like Americans looked to their government to rescue reporters from North Korea or rescue cargo ship crew from Somali pirates.

    China DOES face competing interests from other nations and China’s government DOES, in many ways, protect China from them. That’s not to say there aren’t mistakes, misunderstandings, or misconceptions, but this is fundamentally truth. Without understanding this stuff, this background information, it’s really easy to just create more misunderstandings, misconceptions, and ultimately more mistakes…many of which we can’t really afford in the modern age.

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70. Kai

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    “Developed country privilege” probably would’ve been more accurate in this context.

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71. Kai

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    LoL, I was waiting to see if anyone noticed that.

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72. SLX

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    LMFAO talk shit on the site and now ur trying to hide ur ass?

    Which prized country do you come from that doesn’t have little bits and pieces of bad history?

    You are talking as if every other country is perfect, we’re only human and when humans make up a government things just get dirty.

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73. LOLZ

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    “Maybe you fags should…”

    Oh look, a homophobe!

    http://www.sodahead.com/religion/study-proves-homophobes-are-nothing-more-than-closet-homosexuals-what-do-you-think/question-140910/

    Sorry, I could not resist.

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74. Mongoloid

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 9:49 am

    I doubt that the Nobel Prize would automatically spring to mind, to an average person, when the topic of mixed marraiges comes up.

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75. Kai

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    She’s not that hot and and she’s a poor porn actress. Actually, I just dislike the majority of Japanese AV. Too much whining, crying, and unmanaged hair (though they have reasons for that). I prefer it when the girls are into it, as equal willing participants, and the follicles tamed. ;)

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76. Jay K

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    the follicles tamed has Kai become “whitewashed” by such western values and indeas of trimming, doesn’t this go against your notion to defend china and all chinese at all costs?

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77. Teacher in China

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    Agreed. They’re damn hot, but the whining is out of control. Kudos to Japanese surgeons though, they do a much better job on the boobs than the western porn stars’ doctors do.

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78. Kai

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    1. The taming of follicles and an appreciation for such traces its roots beyond “white” culture.

    2. I don’t defend China and all Chinese at all costs, Jay K. Bite me and stop being an petty twit.

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79. akbar lo

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    did you only read the first sentences?

    “Thus, the Chinese article was a blatant alteration of the original story and photos to further the author’s own views. “

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80. lili

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    …how did the get there anyways?… cause before effect

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81. Goodness

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Yes yes. Golf claps all around. I too am glad that the CCP allows something that hundreds of other governments have always allowed.

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82. Kai

    Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Actually, the CCP government doesn’t exactly allows freedom of mobility. Okay, it does, but there are specific policies like the hukou system that were designed as a policy brakes on mobility, specifically to discourage rural-to-urban domestic migration.

    But, Goodness, I’d say a lot of the major developed nations have historically limited mobility before in some manner but yeah, I’m sure there are technically “hundreds of other governments” have “always” allowed it.

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83. akbar lo

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 4:37 am

    chinasmack is riddles with americans not brits.

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84. mike

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 6:57 am

    no fucking shit you dont need to teach me the whole black history to know it, i meant if he trying to diss the chinese people on not knowing their history better come clean with his own race first.

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85. Goodness

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 10:28 am

    Just out of curiosity, which developed nations historically imposed limits on mobility to its citizens?

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86. Kai

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 11:43 am

    Wikipedia, despite all of the shit it still gets (I used to give it shit too), has generally become a good and reasonable reference source to check for most topics when one encounters information that runs contrary to what one expected.

    Nothing personal (especially since I’ve seen comments by you that I support), but I’m not sure why you think developed nations have never imposted limits on mobility. You should’ve learned this stuff in middle school if not elementary school, and at least by high school in history class or something.

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87. Goodness

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    No offense taken. We are all adults here. I’m assuming that we are talking about state to state or country to country not private domain. I can see a government placing limits on its own citizens mobility due to special circumstances (war, terrorism,) which can later be repealed. But those are the exceptions not the rule.

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88. bleah

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Han, Uyghur, Khmer, etc. are all races

    Based on which definition?

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89. bleah

    Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    the biological program of self-preservation

    Care to explain what this has to do with an inter-ethnic-group relationship?

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90. thd

    Friday, January 1, 2010 at 1:11 am

    Money and class are not related. There are plenty of wealthy people who are very low class, whereas a broke noble is still upper class.

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91. poor thing

    Friday, January 1, 2010 at 6:04 am

    Muslim Chinese must appear in your worse nightmares.

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92. Mike Fish

    Friday, January 1, 2010 at 9:28 am

    Race is an invention, no matter how you look at it. However, “Asian” is one of the worst race categories ever. Based on “Asian” everyone from Israel to Korea belongs to the same race.

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93. Mike Fish

    Friday, January 1, 2010 at 9:44 am

    tripe is right, but I don’t mean that how you think. Many people in China like to say they have stronger “family values” than the West. I think that is tripe. What family values? Ancestor worship, letting one’s parents make most of the important decisions in life, parents treating their adult children like infants, following family traditions out of the burden of obligation rather than being with family for fun, parasitic family members who easily con and steal from the rest, having complicated specific names for each family member, speaking to people deferentialy, but often just for show… the list goes on. None of those things give China better or superior “family values”. It’s an authoritarian Confucian version of family, maybe, but it doesn’t neccasarily represent a good family model. The longer I live in China and the more I see of real Chinese family life, the more I’m reminded of the family values cherished and practised by many Westerners and I no longer beleive the tripe that the Chinese, along with the compass, somehow invented, or reinvented, family values.

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94. Mike Fish

    Friday, January 1, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    You’ll just have to make do with the She-Orcs you are used to.

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95. Master C

    Sunday, January 3, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    All for concubines and footbinding, but just make sure your wife agrees to having her feet reshaped before doing that, otherwise that would be breaking the law.

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96. thd

    Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 6:17 am

    This is in reference to becoming culturally Chinese, and what Chinese view as being a “traditional Chinese” person, not in favor of footbinding.

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97. Mike Fish

    Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 9:14 am

    King Tubby,

    I’ve never said a raving lunatic couldn’t sometimes be right… and no, I’m not refering to Hongjian. Also, I shouldn’t pull ol Pat down but comparing Hongjian to him. Buchanan is at least good at what he does I guess.

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