Parents: Pay For Your Brother’s Wedding Or Be Disowned

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“Blackmailing your family… Confucian style.”

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From Tianya:

Younger brother is getting married, parents want me to provide 200,000 RMB, or they will disown me!

I wanted to post this a few days ago, but I was too busy to do that. I am on a business trip today, having some extra time, so come to write this.

My brother is getting married – found a girlfriend by himself. My parents are very happy, saying that he finally did something a right thing, which is finding such a good girlfriend. So, they really hope him get married ASAP. But my brother is extremely poor, and my parents only have 10,000 RMB, so they expect me to pay for the rest expense. Please note that it is pay for, not to lend.

Expense include:

1. Build a house for my brother in town. The land is readily available – my parents’ old house, located in between the town and rural area, also considered as shop front. They request that there should be three shop front rooms on the first floor, one living room and one bedroom with a bathroom on the second floor, one master bedroom and one bedroom on the third floor, each with a bathroom. In the back of the house, there should be one kitchen and one pigpen. According to the above construction, my parents’ anticipated expense is that 110,000 RMB for construction, 20,000RMB for decoration, totally 130,000RMB. Furniture and home appliances will be brought by the bride as marriage portion.

2. Betrothal gifts: 60,000 RMB.

3. Wedding expense: 20,000 RMB.

Totally 210,000 RMB – 10,000 from my parents, 200,000 from my side.

Building a house and betrothal gifts are the bride family’s requests, which is out of a long time bargaining. If we do not agree with it, the bride’s parents won’t marry off their daughter. Her parents were not very satisfied with my brother, and even rejected him at first. But the girl insisted, so they finally agreed. My parents are very satisfied with this girl, so they have to accept their request.

I did not agree with my parents to pay 200,000 RMB; I promised to spend 50,000RMB. But my husband did not agree that either – he asked me to provide 10,000RMB, and then lend 10,000 to my brother.

When I told my parents this, they got mad at me. My father even suffered from high blood pressure and went to the hospital. Parents told me seriously that if I provide the money, they would cast me off.

Comments from Tianya:

在这看小说:

Your parents asked you to offer 200,000, then they must know you are able to do that. 200,000 means nothing to you.
Parents are not able to help their youngest son; they just hope you can do something as the oldest child. Moreover, this is your brother’s marriage for life. Just treat it as spending 200,000 on honoring your parents, please?

llww1000:

[Responding to above comment by 在这看小说]
Is it fair to the LZ‘s husband?
Do not raise a daughter as a money tree.
And disowning?
If they want to disown then disown!
When the parents do not treat their daughter as a daughter, why should the daughter still treat them as parents??
Don’t say that parents are people too, that children should not argue with parents. That kind of bullshit, is just blind loyalty and piety.

泪滴秦筝:

Lou zhu‘s parents are so shameless! Even able to make this kind of a request! If he is your son, raise him yourself, and only do what you have money for. On what grounds should you suck the daughter’s blood to feed the son?

stonelike:

You brother is also wrong. Without money, why is he getting married? Your sister-in-law is also inconsiderate. If you have no choice, then just give what you can give. After all, you are family anyway and it isn’t easy [at times].

Heavytail:

I’m guessing that the lou zhu‘s herself isn’t able to give the 200,000 according to her income, so this 200,000 probably will probably have to come from the lou zhu‘s husband…

琳儿不哭:

You can give an appropriate amount, but 200,000RMB is not appropriate. After all, it’s your brother’s own marriage. If he doesn’t find a way, what right does he have requesting his older sister to assume the burden? I am more in favor of what your husband said, but maybe you can give an additional 10,000, and the rest let him [the brother] figure it out.

东方琉璃:

I am wondering, these “big mouths” [other comments]who immediately open their months to say the older sister should give the money, are they all useless younger brothers of their own families???

[I'm] not saying the elder sister shouldn’t give, [because] as family, you must help when you should…but, having all of it provided by the sister, isn’t this out of line…especially when the brother is lazy and greedy and useless…is she supposed to support him his entire life???

雨木华年:

To tell the truth, lou zhu‘s parents are indeed going a bit too far, but seeing what the lou zhu said at the end, [I] feel lou zhu is not that great either. No matter how capable you are, for a rural family to raise a graduate student, they had to pay/give a lot, and that cannot be measured in monetary terms of the time. Of course, I have no opinion of the lou zhu‘s husband, as he isn’t [originally/directly] part of your family!

ljz888666555:

Forgive my presumptuousness in making a hypothetical, but if this 200,000 was for example not being given to your brother, but rather given to your parents’ medical care/treatment, would you give it?

不好好吃饭就屠城:

Your parents raised you for 20 years.
Now they need you to give up a year’s worth of income to help them accomplish a once in a life-time wish/dream.
[And] you’re not willing?

loveseat:

Do your parents expect you to support your brother and even his future entire family for the rest of their lives? Directly and clearly refuse. Supporting your parents is a given, but Of course, supporting you should support your parents, but you have no obligation to [financially] support your brother, and you giving 10,000 and lending 10,000 is already pretty good.
Also, seeing your brother like this, your parents will definitely expect you to support them in the future [because the son will not have the ability to].

大气绿洲:

I used to hear how selfless the parents love their children.
After growing up, I find that sometimes it is not like this.

大漠古城:

My situation is almost the same as yours, my situation is almost the same as the lou zhu‘s, also have a younger brother, and these past days, my parents insist on my promising to be responsible for my brother’s marriage and house.
Recently has been very vexing.

绿尘:

Just give according to your means should be fine. After all, the principle is for you to not have regrets when you think of this matter in the future. According to you and your husband’s circumstances, your can actually give a bit more. Of course, living in Shanghai is not easy either, so you wanting to first establish your own foundation cannot be blamed.

yiwanshangle:

As a man, I personally think the lou zhu has no obligation to give 200,000. Taking care of one’s parents is expected, but having the daughter pay for the younger brother’s wedding has not justification.
Moreover, isn’t this obviously cheating the son-in-law’s money to give to their own son?
Those people telling the lou zhu to pay the money are like your brother in real life!
I have a female co-worker whose situation is similar to your’s. Just after graduating, the first time she got her paycheck, her bank account card [where her pay is deposited] was taken away by her parents, saying: When you’ve collected the money for your younger brother’s wedding is when it will be returned to you! Later she found a partner [boyfriend, husband], and after her husband knew he said: “Okay, marrying me is okay, but a precondition, aside from holidays you cannot go home, and when you go home you cannot bring them things [gifts]. In the future, supporting/taking care of them in their old age will have nothing to do with our family, because you have already supported them in advance. I cannot have taken care of your brother and then take care of your parents!”
Lou zhu can consult [this example]!

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  1. Useless son and also unfair towards their daughter. They cannot make unreasonable demands like that. Not just the wedding, but buy an entire house?

  2. What the heck? They can’t live in an apartment and save or just live with the sister? I think it’s crazy to think they have to buy ALL that. besides, what about the brides family? What are they bringing to the table??

  3. besides, what about the brides family? What are they bringing to the table??

    The bride.

  4. Shouldn’t marry if he can’t satisfy his wife, his kids and his in-laws lifestyle expectations.

    Marry on impulse now, and they may end up looking down on him later if he cannot meet their expectations.

  5. As a person married to a girl from a rural area, this is very common. It’s also very common to push the eldest daughter into a good education, good marriage, and good job just so they will be able to provide for their brother’s marriage. My wife (bachelor degree, good paying job) was asked to pay for her younger brother’s house, wedding, and all the wedding gifts. I feel the same way as Spore, but it’s not seen that way in rural areas. If parents aren’t able to marry their children off by the time the children are 25 or 26, the parents are seen as failures and lose face (it’s all about face), so they will do just about anything to avoid that. This won’t change soon, after all, the Chinese are very proud of their 5000 year old civilization and “dowry” and “Dragon and the Peacock” thinking is very much a product of that.

    • Looks like old family traditions are still quite prevalent in China, maybe more so in rural China, with the obligations that children cannot avoid.

      Perhaps that’s why some people would rather not go home for reunion dinner during the spring festival.

      I an overseas Chinese. Guess people are slightly more liberal here.

  6. I had a girlfriend whose mother was earning 200k+ a year, but spunking all of it playing MahJiang, and so left it to my ex as the elder sister to accomodate, and educate her sister. Seems strange to stunt one’s life to compensate for pandering to the 2nd…

  7. If thet are getting married to have some one else pay for the ceremony, celebration then they should not get married. They should get married within their means and not look for more and acept woth each has to offer. If the older brother can help, he should, but in the amount of 200,000 RMB the parents are asking too much.

  8. I am so glad that I did do anything like that, my parents didn’t ask anyone to do anything like that, my parents-in-law did have to do anything like that. And now my son is getting married, and I don’t have to ask anyone to pay for anything for him. He can do whatever he and his future wife can afford, no question asked. Not from me, not from his future parents-in-law.

    If my son ever request me, or his sister, to pay for his wedding, I will disown him. Not that I can’t afford it, but he must grow up before he gets married. Thank heavens I don’t need to do that.

  9. I enjoyed the typical “durr hurr support the brother even though he’s a deadbeat who should man up and pay for his own wedding.” Seriously are this many idiots on the Chinese internet?

  10. The emotional manipulation via going to the hospital due to “high blood pressure” is especially sickening. I’ve seen this kind of ridiculous fakery before – basically ‘do this or you will make us sick’ – and it never fails to disgust.

  11. This is very common. Its unfortunate the bride’s parents demands are very steep. I know of a few people in the same situation who has declined and moved on…

    They should re-negotiate or he should go to inner provinces to find a woman in the same social standing…

    Being disowned, thats the least of the problems. at least no more demands and selfish backward people to deal with.

  12. this is shit, the brother can’t pay, only one truth in that: he is not ready to get married. Its not fair what your parants are doing to you….oh china oh china

  13. Cultural differences really make me confused about this.

    He is choosing to marry her, it is his responsibility. This is my thought…

    In the rest of the world, this would not be an issue. You are not a possession of anyone. You are a human.

  14. 1 Is the girl getting married or being sold.
    2 Why is this girl so special.
    3 Marry according to your own means

    Why don’t your parent ask your husband to fuck the girl first

    SHIT, this is PLAIN STUPID !!!!!!!!!

  15. I’ll pay this if I get to do this girl from behind every other sunday

  16. Such a common situation really.

    I made sure the girl i married had no brothers, her parents weren’t destitute, and her only older sister was already married.
    Unfortunately due to …family pressures… I had to ‘lend’ 10,000 US dollars to my sister-in-law (they asked for alot more), and i prob give about 27,000 yuan annually to my in-laws (birthdays, New Years, monthly maintenance fee, annual QingMing ancestor day, etc)….and contributed a significant amount to purchasing their apartment in the city….

    I am not a rich guy, I manage to get by, don’t have much savings, and am still paying a mortgage.

    And i thought i was getting it easy when i first got married LOL. The original poster has got it alot worse. I wonder how much money they already send on an annual basis.

  17. Obviously the younger brother doesn’t have a job or any source of income, himself, so how is he going to support a family? He should get an education, get a job, THEN get married. What a bum!

    If her parents want to disown her, great! Think of the money she’ll save. (They obviously don’t care about her, why should she care about them?)

  18. lending money OK! paying with money NOT OK! this not fair because i know that families are supposed to be “caring”and “loving” but realize that she is supposed to PAY for everything and those are things HE’S supposed to be paying for. imagine how would that sound in the future. “hey, u wanna hear somethin funny? my sister paid for MY wedding! haha…” plus i dont even really care about him right now, since he’s kinda a bastard and is hopeless. like come on! if he’s old old enough to get married then he’s probably old enough to get a FREAKIN JOB! seriously! and to the parents, are yall seriously? thats just “太过分了” (crossing the line) because how could you do that? probably cuz she’s a woman and parents usually like the son better becuz he’s a guy and women are….yada yada yada. i think yall know where im going with this. what? just cuz she’s a women, she doesnt have those “special rights”? and realize that this is coming from a guy! what makes a man so special? men come OUT from women! men drink women’s breast milk!(when they were babies, of course). i think the parents “太宠他了” (spoiling him). he should be able to support himself! if you dont got the money, you dont get married! sheesh! and for the people who said that she should give her brother the money then you know what? try giving all your money to your siblings! and remember it’s giving, not lending, your probably not gonna get it back ever again. and for the people who say it’s only a small favor for her parents, why cant she just do it? they’ve raised her …yada yada yada. just shut up! if you read the article correctly, this money is for the brother, not the parents! if it was for the parents, then that’ll be a different story. and i have to comment on the brother, GET A LIFE and GET A FAT ASS OFF THAT COUCH AND FIND A JOB! DAMN! and for the girl who wants to marry the brother, why would u want to marry a person who has no life, no dream and has no effort to get a job? obviously he’s gonna be a hobo in the future. and i just wanna say that u do what ever you want, it’s ur money! i’ll respect your decision.

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