Chinese New Year Fire Destroys Zhengding’s Old City Gate

Zhengding Hubei South Gate on fire

From NetEase:

Hebei Zhengding old city gate fire burns down thousand year old building

China News Service, Shijiazhuang, February 19th. Zhengding County, Hebei Province, related agency’s latest report, preliminary investigation indicate that fireworks landing on the gate was the cause of the Zhengding South Gate fire. This fire disaster cost nearly 1 million RMB, with no death or injuries reported.

The night of February 18th at 8:19pm, a fire occurred at the Zhengding South Gate completed in 2001, the fire department immediately arrived at the scene and fully engaged the fire. The fire was completely put out by 12 am that same night. This fire disaster covered an area of 400 square meters, composed of a two story wooden tower, at a loss of nearly 1 million yuan.

This China News Service reporter rushed to the scene on the same night and saw about 16-17 fire trucks participating in fighting the fire, with the fire causing the South Gate’s two story wooden structure modeled after old city gates to fall apart.

The old city of Zhengding has over 1600 years of history. Earthwork began in the Eastern Jin period, stonework in the Northern Zhou period, expanded during the Tang Dynasty into an earth-mounded city, further expanded during the Ming dynasty into a 24 li (1/2km) brick city. Today’s remaining Zhengding city walls are relics from the Ming Dynasty, 8106 meters of the city wall remains. Zhengding city’s most magnificent four gates, The Yingxu East Gate, Later changed to Huancui, The Changle South Gate, The Zhenyuan West Gate, and the Yongan North Gate. Over years of corrosion, the west and north gate already lost its former glory, the east gate was lost through construction. Today’s South Gate with 50 meters of city walls along each side was result of Zhengding County officials appealing to the people to donate old city bricks, while investing 3.99 million RMB for its reconstruction in 2001.

Zhengding Hubei South Gate in flames

Zhengding Hubei South Gate burning

Zhengding Hubei South Gate fire

Zhengding Hubei South Gate burning

Zhengding Hubei South Gate flames

Chinese firefighters battling the Zhengding Hubei South Gate fire that occurred during 2010 Chinese New Year

Comments on NetEase:

网易广东深圳网友:

A thousand year old building burned down, only a loss of 1 million?

网易辽宁沈阳网友:

It is better to burn the Big Underpants, it is more extravagant.

网易福建网友:

When I was young, I foolishly supported playing fireworks. Now that I am 20, I extremely dislike fireworks.

网易北京网友:

Fireworks celebrating the Spring Festival is a joyous things, it is the tradition left to us from our ancestors. However, it really does pollute the environment. I think we should limit it [fireworks], especially in big cities where it should be immediately restricted. The hidden danger is too great!

网易中国手机网友:

Chinese people use fireworks to hear it crack, foreigners use it to construct guns and cannons to conquer you.

网易湖北武汉网友:

Reconstruction cost 3.9 million, how come this fire disaster only cost 1 million RMB? What happened to the other 2 million?

网易浙江台州网友:

China’s long civilization was destroyed by these scum.

网易江苏网友:

One fire burns it down, then let the common people donate money for reconstruction, the developers laugh, the corrupt officials’ wallets filled.

网易广东广州手机网友:

A replica of the old tower built in 2001, just let it burn!

网易辽宁营口网友:

Pollutes the air, creates noise, creates fire disasters, leads to injuries/death, wastes money, what’s good about it?! [fireworks]

网易安徽蚌埠网友:

The happiest must be the government officials; this time they found another way to increase GDP, Haha.

网易北京网友:

It is to make way for a proper tear down. [by developers]

网易江苏南通网友:

It is just a replica of the old, burn it and rebuild it, can add to GDP.

网易四川成都网友:

The developers did it.

Zhengding Hubei South Gate before fire

Zhengding South Gate before the fire.

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  1. Waiting for Namdaemun reference…

  2. Well there goes another piece of China’s 5000 thousand up in smoke. You’d think after all this time they would have thought of another way to celebrate something than explosives….at least no injuries this time, I remember being in Shanghai and seeing festive families giving cigarettes to 4 year olds to light rockets! oh im first yeh!

  3. Fireworks anyone?!

  4. “Reconstruction cost 3.9 million, how come this fire disaster only cost 1 million RMB? What happened to the other 2 million?”

    Give this man a Masters.

  5. loooooooooool

    which one is it gonna be next year?

  6. “Chinese people use fireworks to hear it crack, foreigners use it to construct guns and cannons to conquer you.”

    hahahaha

    the internet is always a good way to spread bullshit

    Organizers haven’t understood yet how to secure a firework festival… I thought they were masters of the art… or maybe not…

  7. I’m a bit puzzled by the wording; the Replica (or recently reconstructed fake in 2001) was was built at a cost of nearly 4 million (3.9) yuan, using old bricks (age uncertain , just “old”) donated from a variety of municipal sources (public and private). So how is it that the article can then call this the burning of a “thousand year old building?”

    Further, I believe that the nearly one million yuan cost cited within the article, refers to the cost of fire fighting effort; ie. the use of police, fire, and other emergency personnel and equipment in battling this fire emergency. It has nothing to do or is totally unrelated to the stated 2001 construction costs of the project. To compare the two figures and asked “what happened to the money” (the difference between the two figures) is rather inane.

    Finally, fireworks can be great. However, the uncontrolled, unlicensed or non professional use of performance fireworks is inherently dangerous, costly, and unpredictable in their outcome. Though this was not the real and original historic gate, it nonetheless should serve as a wake up call for pyrotechnic safety and display restrictions. Could one imagine the monumental loss had this been at the site of the Forbidden City? That thought alone is sobering.

    • Forbidden City has burn down before (at least one of the major building, and that’s with an emperor in it

    • 1. It was the in comments that used the word “replica” was used. I don’t think the term was used correctly but whatever.

      If you carefully read the article it sounds like much of the structure was preserved from 1,000 years ago. However, because parts of the structure have corrupted over time, in 2001 the government attempted to fix the structure by using old bricks which people donated.

      2. Much of the Forbidden City have been restored/reconstructed kinda like this zheding gate. Of course, missing from there are some of the most valuable artifacts stolen during wars. I doubt Taiwan and London will ever return them all though.

  8. Same thing happened to the news building in Beijing. Never learned a thing. Now there is a giant eyesore in the heart of Beijing that can’t be torn down because it provides stability to the sister structure next to it. Good job.

    • HAHA yeah what a stupid pack of cocks that did that.

      It was a 5 star hotel just ready to open. Everything was lost. I was in Beijing at that time and I laughed my big underpants off when I heard that happened.

  9. We once had a dog that would go absolutely berserk if it heard fireworks. It once slammed through a window to try and get out of the house and almost bled to death. The poor thing had a nervous breakdown from intense stress during fireworks celebrations. We had to give it a lot of medication to calm it down. Animals are terrified of the noise and nobody ever things of the birds sleeping in trees, the animals resting at night, the house pets inside/outside, who don’t understand why such big fire and noise is coming upon them. We humans should try to take a step forward and not imitate old things that are honestly stupid when you think about it. Why do we have to make crazy noise because a particular day is on the calendar?

  10. The Gate in fact was not a real ancient structure.
    Look at the rampart wall (Zhonghua Gate section)of Nanjing City,which was built in three or four years before.The bricks even were not been made of clay,but marbles.
    Today,I see much modern archaic buildings.

  11. If they had built the gate out of lead and asbestos like the construction boss wanted, none of this would have happened…

  12. I’m still waiting for the part where they discover it was the head official’s drunk son dicking around.

  13. this is the reason why fireworks are banned in the 90s, if I remember correct it is after a hotel in Chongqing went ablaze killing 100+ people. However, after the ban is lifted in the 2000s things are getting crazier and crazier.

    btw, the 24 li = 12 km not 1/2 km

  14. To see anything that has been built with human endevour distroyed is really very sad. However China and it’s people work hard, they should be allowed a little fun at Spring Festival time. The burning was an accident, no lives were lost.

    Where loss of human life is considered ‘Life is everything, property in nothing!’

    This gate can be built even better next time, there is no one better to do this than the Chinese!

  15. A demonstration of impermanence (无常), so what?

  16. “If they had built the gate out of lead and asbestos like the construction boss wanted, none of this would have happened…”

    Plenty of asbestos in American houses built during the 50′s.

    • It isn’t rocket science to identify all the sensitive and historic wooden structures within a fireworks fallout area and to have fire protective responses prepositioned as a precaution. The gate should have been doused with water before the start of the display, and a foam truck should have been already stationed on standby at that location as well as other fire potential sites. I don’t know it the gate had internal fire fighting ability (like sprinklers) but it would have been helpful.

      • Haha, you’ve obviously never been to China during Chinese New Year if you think this was the result of some sort of fireworks display. Fireworks are let off by anyone and everyone, continuously and at random.

  17. When shit don’t happen, people are yelling for the government to stop controlling fireworks. When shit actually happened, now everyone starts saying they hated fireworks all along.

    It’s just an accident. The risks of playing with fireworks did not decrease or increase before or after something like this.

  18. Because those melon-heads keep letting off fireworks too close to buildings and don’t have the foresight or intelligence to go to an open area like a park, it’s hardly surprising now is it …

  19. For 2009 New Years they burn’t down the new 5 star hotel and CCTV office building in Beijing Which still stands as big white elephant . . this year they burned down a historic gate. Wonder what building they’ll burn down to celebrate Chinese New Year 2011?

    But to experience the war zone of a Chinese New Years eve in a major Chinese city is truly an amazing experience!

  20. Personally, I hopethey burn down every building surrounding Tianamen Square, but thats beside the point. I had to comment on the idiocy of this comment made earlier because it is what angers me most about the Chinese:

    “If they had built the gate out of lead and asbestos like the construction boss wanted, none of this would have happened…”

    Plenty of asbestos in American houses built during the 50’s.

    Why do Chinese do things that are harmful to theselves just because someone else did it before them? Did people know asbestos was dangerous when they built homes in the 1950′s? NO! But we know it now. China knows it is dangerous and deadly, but citizens actually acept that it is a part of development. Tere is a huge difference between unkowingly causing harm and choosing to cause harm in the name of increased development. Western countries didnt stop using asbestos because they found a cheaper alternative. They stopped using it because they discovered it was deadly. Dumb Fuck!

  21. you know we could solve all this if we just had freedom of speech, then words cant hurt us tibet, abortion, execution, free speech, taiwan, xinjian fa long gang, words words words…………..fuck whats the point, bring on the guns

    • shit, there is no olive branch here just a dead finger clawing at dust, if you really want to see anyone on the over side turn on tune in and look else where……..but you’ve got to give china smack its credit, chinese are dumb nationalistic fuck heads, those who have a heart are naif dullards, the ‘foreingers’ are racist, or blinded by the light of chinese ingenuity……….and in between are the gut wrenching ‘smackers’ who dress their intentions in good will. Truth is their will ends in -inviability and you’re left keeping up with the enlightened joneseses maintaining erections post climax in a haze of self indulgent rightheousness. I hate this site, at first i loved it, like my first wank, till i realised…more than this, there must be more than this……china smack is dead, its post living

  22. excuse me sir…..maybe its already posted somewhere but wouldnt it be nice to know about who contributes to this site, again maybe i should already know but who collectively other than translations contributes……………………and why.????????????????????????????

  23. Looks like an insurance job to me..haha

  24. I am guessing that the 1 million yuan is the value of the structure. Bricks and wood are not the priciest of building materials. The structure probably cost more to build because much labor went into it, and that labor had to be paid for. It is like a car. The price you pay includes payments for every resource that went into the car. But once the first buyer has paid the sticker price, the car can’t be resold for the same value.

  25. that fire’s really a blast. i hope it didn’t hurt anyone… but it’s sad that it destroyed everything…

  26. B-real!
    Are you really comfortable spreading such ‘awful’ immature cultural thought about the world?

  27. Be real your forgiven! It is just that being from the oposite side of the Atlantic certain American expressions grate on me like sandpaper! ‘Mother F”’R', over use of the term ‘Retard’, ‘awsome’ ‘cool’! they all get at me! I need to grow up! But it’s really hard to be humble when one is so completely perfect…like me!

  28. Be Real: Bloody Hell! one could say that you are an ‘absolute bounder’ to use such stuff! however I am in awe of your command of the ‘American language! you have quite a formidable tongue!

    You have to admit that the American use of English is one massive and giant cliche! THe sad news is that it is spreading. I will go back to China next week and if one more Chinese person tells me to ‘Have a nice day’ or ‘You’re welcome!’ I’m going to smack them over the head!

  29. B Real:
    Before I finally leave you in peace to enjoy the ‘spring’ I give you the final info on the name ‘Parker.’

    In Anglo Saxon fuedal times local peasants were allowed ‘foraging rights’ to help themselves to timber and any wood fallen from trees within the local parish. (The law still stands)

    To stop distruction of his best trees the gentry or landowner used a man to protect his ‘park.’ It was a piece of woods fenched off, the park keepers job was to keep the ‘pheasants in and the peasants out’ He was eventually called the ‘parker’ hence the name, today he would be called by the Victorian name of ‘gamekeeper’ Thought you may wish to know.

  30. After living in China for a while, many foreigners just start to loose sympathy. It’s amazing that the gate lasted this long to begin with. Sadly, Chinese people just love to destroy what they have, either through carelessness or intentionally to make money.

    Go to almost any city in China on Spring Festival and you will see an awesome site, enough fireworks to fight a war, and (almost) none of them used safely.

    Hell, if you just look at this city on wedding days you can see how dangerous the “past time” is here.

  31. I remembered once, in Japan, having been to see the Gold Pavilion Temple in Kyoto and being mildly surprised at quite how well it had weathered the passage of time since it was first built in the fourteenth century. I was told it hadn’t weathered well at all, and had in fact been burnt to the ground twice in this century. “So it isn’t the original building?” I had asked my Japanese guide.
    “But yes, of course it is,” he insisted, rather surprised at my question.
    “But it’s burnt down?”
    “Yes.”
    “Twice.”
    “Many times.”
    “And rebuilt.”
    “Of course. It is an important and historic building.”
    “With completely new materials.”
    “But of course. It was burnt down.”
    “So how can it be the same building?”
    “It is always the same building.”
    I had to admit to myself that this was in fact a perfectly rational point of view, it merely started from an unexpected premise. The idea of the building, the intention of it, its design, are all immutable and are the essence of the building. The intention of the original builders is what survives. The wood of which the design is constructed decays and is replaced when necessary. To be overly concerned with the original materials, which are merely sentimental souvenirs of the past, is to fail to see the living building itself.

    —Douglas Adams: Last Chance to See

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

  32. Hehe. You just need the right filler. It is said that medieval bridges (like for example the Charles Bridge in Prague) stand firm for ages because they put eggs into the filler.

  33. Ever heard of poisoned candy on halloween? I am truly amazed as how the parents allow kids to trick or treat.

    Look, chun jie is the most important holiday in China, sort of like a thanks-giving christmas fusion. There’s nothing wrong with having some fun, and really if you’re careful you shouldn’t get hurt.

    Back when I was in China in grade 4, I played with fireworks EVERYDAY, not just on chun jie. I’ve not lost any part of my body.

  34. “Ever heard of poisoned candy on halloween? I am truly amazed as how the parents allow kids to trick or treat.”

    http://www.snopes.com/horrors/poison/halloween.asp

    If you’re afraid of poisoned Halloween candy, you might as well just live in a bunker.

  35. back when i was in fourth grade i played with acid and im fine too

  36. Hahaha, Japanese are stupid if they think that a reconstruction is the “original”

  37. having lived on both sides of the fence one thing the japanese do well is reconstruction, that place is awesome by the way and does lovely tea and cakes round the back

  38. Interesting point of view.

  39. I really like that idea. +1 for you.

  40. This has long been a philosophical paradox. If you build a ship, and replace its parts one by one until all the parts have been replaced, then use the original parts to build another ship, do you have 2 of the same ship?

  41. IMHO, it still is.

  42. Or even exploded faeces.

  43. who the fuck lives in jiaxing and sees anything…please

  44. I know makes my blood run coldish….now people are a different thing, those fuckers are ice cold

  45. Errr . . . no. Those ‘fuckers’ are probably drunk and having a good time with fireworks, something most people would enjoy – it’s just a pity that ancient buildings get caught in the cross-fire . . .

  46. B-real: American English is not totally understandable! The BBC places ‘sub titles’ on some of your recent films for British TV. Actress Demi Moore’s mumblings are understtood by very few, I cannot understand hardly a word she says!

    However as you seem a ‘bounder’ of some form, I quite like your humour, perhaps you may have a little English blood in you, if so then you are of the right stock!

  47. Jones: with a name like that you are obviously of the Welsh tribes, as I am from the ‘Welsh’ Davies tribe we are therefore blood brothers, so I cannot bring myself to battle with you! However I do get upset at seeing the ‘murder’ of our mother tongue!

    The 60s are not over, its music lives on! Have you noticed how the recent generation cannot dance to 60s music but we can dance to theirs!… experts in our own fields!

    PS: If you disown that your name is Welsh then it will have to be changed!!

  48. B Real: I am not joking you about subtitles, Googgle it!

    How can you say we are misleading in English when we invented the language! it is that you misuse this wonderful ‘tool of comunication’ That is the problem!

    The Name Parker is very English and the family crest ‘Court of Arms’ has a very medieval English image. All the more reason for you to chose Anglo Saxon words instead of profanity to express yourself! It lowers the tone from debate to debase argument.

    You had a dig at the British Empire! where does that come into the discussion! Which Nations are you implying? America, Canada, Australia, Etc, all flourishing, except the former, but I have confidence in them. The Indians, that nation in the Sub continent now flourishing, and their use of British English as a national language. It has given them a lead in the commercial world; shortly to be richer than the USA. Please don’t confuse these Indians with the American ones, who I believe because of constant harrassment are now almost extinct!

  49. Jones: Bransford, Means the ‘ford in front of the hill’ and derives from the village of Bransford in the county Worcestershire,England first mentioned in literature in the year747, and situated in the depth of middle England, you can’t get any more English than that. Nice to know you are aware of the ancient Welsh skill with the longbow, the nuclear secret of it day!

    With a bloodline like yours you should’t be speaking in American nasal tones but perhaps an Oxford accent of pure English beautiful tones and superb English grammar!

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