Mongolia’s Homeless Living Underground In Sewers

Mongolians living underground in sewers to avoid winter cold.

From ifeng:

The “ant tribe” that doesn’t hurt the city’s appearance: Mongolians of the underground sewers

A homeless Mongolian lives underground to hide from the harsh winter season.

Ulaanbaatar’s [or Ulan Bator, the capital of Mongolia] winters are very cold, its temperatures reaching -25 degrees Celsius. Therefore, for those homeless people without homes to return to, winter is a relatively difficult season, and they have no choice but to go underground and near the heating pipes to avoid the winter cold. When it gets dark, like ants, they crawl into shared areas [underground], not blocking the roads, with no need at all to evict them, “absolutely” not harming the city’s appearances. Photographer: Paul Bronstein. Editor: Wang Pinwei. Photograph source: CFP.

First time photographed.

First time [they were] photographed.

A homeless Mongolian emerges from the sewer in Ulaanbaatar.

2000 October 15, Ulaanbaatar, the 8-month pregnant 17-year-old young girl Altanchimeg crawls out from “home” to look for her livelihood. Altanchimeg says she has been living in this city for 8 years.

Mongolian girls preparing food in their underground home.

2000 October 15, Ulaanbaatar, Altanchimeg (right) and her friend Tsetsegee are at “home” preparing a meal, the two of them taking care of and depending on each other in life. Every winter, they live beside a nearby heating pipe to hide from the cold winter.

Two Mongolian girls living in the sewers, reading a book by candlelight.

2000 October 15, Ulaanbaatar, Altanchimeg is brushing her hair, Tsetsegee (front) is on the side reading a book by candlelight.

A drunk Mongolian boy collapsed at the entrance of his underground home.

2000 October 15, Ulaanbaatar, 11-year-old youth Menhtor, who has already learned how to get drunk, lies dazedly at the entrance to “home”.

A drunk young Mongolian boy passed out on the entrance to his home in the sewers of Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia.

2000 October 15, Ulaanbaatar, dead drunk Menhtor is asleep, having collapsed on the manhole cover.

Second time photographed, ten years later.

The second time [they were] photographed.

A Mongolian woman looks up out of the manhole that is the entrance to her underground sewer home.

2010 March 16, Ulaanbaatar, 36-year-old Erdenetsetseg sits at “home” observing a sky the size of a manhole cover. Five years earlier, Erdenetsetseg arrived in Ulaanbaatar. Without work, she has survived by collecting trash.

A homeless Mongolian in Ulaanbaatar lies on underground heating pipes.

2010 March 16, Ulaanbaatar, Erdenetsetseg lies on a heating pipe to sleep.

A Mongolian who lives in the sewers uses cardboard as a door.

2010 March 16, Ulaanbaatar, to make it more convenient to enter and exit, Erdenetsetseg uses cardboard [instead of the manhole cover] as a “front door”. To this end, she has also poked a hole in the cardboard to allow air circulation.

A homeless Mongolian man sticks his head out of the sewers.

2010 March 15, Ulaanbaatar, Naranbaatar sticks his head out from his “home”, to feel the wind bask in the sun.

A drunk homeless Mongolian man crawls into his underground home.

2010 March 16, Ulaanbaatar, drunk Naranbaatar lies at the hole, looking into his own “home”.

A Mongolian man asleep in the sewer by the open manhole cover.

2010 March 16, Ulaanbaatar, deep night, a male falls asleep with the “door” open.

A Mongolian child yawns while sitting on a bed pan in an underground sewer that serves as his home.

2010 March 16, Ulaanbaatar, 18-month-old baby boy Munkhorgil is sitting on his “home’s” bed pan yawning. Perhaps he should be called “sewer child” ["sewer second generation"].

Memorable.

English photographer James W. Hill’s photographic work “Love and Peace (Ouynaa And Tsetsegee)” is memorable.

A mother hugs her daughter at the mouth of their underground sewer home in Mongolia.

Nikon Photo Contest International 2002-2003 winner: “Love and Peace (Ouyaa And Tsetsegee)”. In Mongolia’s Ulaanbaatar city center, a mother hugs her daughter at the “front door of her home”. The photographer successfully captured a rare expression of happiness of the “underground people”, showing their dignity of their lives. Photographer: James W. Hill (UK).

Some more photographs from Sohu:

ULAAN BAATAR, MONGOLIA-MARCH 16 : Erdenetsetseg,36, tries to keep warm down inside the sewer  filled with garbage where she lives  March 16, 2010  in Ulaan Baatar, Mongolia. Erdenetsetseg moved to the capitol city from a province, without work she collects cans and bottles to make enough money to buy a little food and vodka. Since 70 years of communist rule ended in 1990, Mongolia has become one of the most pro-business countries. While economic reforms have brought prosperity to Ulaan Baatar, there still widespread unemployment, some used to work in the now defunct state industries. Approximately over 35% of Mongolians live below the poverty line, many unable to buy basic food needed to survive. Social problems include depression, alcohol abuse, domestic violence and crime. Mongolia suffers with a very high number of alcoholics, all consuming cheap Mongolian vodka that is readily available to the poor and the unemployed, Many Mongolians have immigrated to the capitol city from the far away provinces seeking employment.  For the homeless during the winter this means extreme hardship, for some homeless living in the sewers means warmth verses dealing with temperatures dropping as low as -25C mid- Winter. This year Mongolia has experienced the worst winter in 30 years. (Photo by Paula Bronstein /Getty Images)

Erdenetsetseg, 36-years-old, is huddling her body for warm. Mongolia’s winters are very cold, the temperatures reaching -25 degrees Celsius. Therefore, for those homeless people without homes to return to, winter is a relatively difficult season, and they have no choice but to go into the city’s sewer system to live.

ULAAN BAATAR, MONGOLIA-MARCH 13 : Erdenetsetseg,36, drink vodka, living in a sewer filled with garbage  March 13 2010  in Ulaan Baatar, Mongolia. Erdenetsetseg moved to the capitol city from a province five years ago, without work she collects cans and bottles to make enough money to buy a little food and her daily fix of vodka.  Since 70 years of communist rule ended in 1990, Mongolia has become one of the most pro-business countries. While economic reforms have brought prosperity to Ulaan Baatar, there still widespread unemployment, some used to work in the now defunct state industries. Approximately over 35% of Mongolians live below the poverty line, many unable to buy basic food needed to survive. Social problems include depression, alcohol abuse, domestic violence and crime. Mongolia suffers with a very high number of alcoholics, all consuming cheap Mongolian vodka that is readily available to the poor and the unemployed, Many Mongolians have immigrated to the capitol city from the far away provinces seeking employment.  For the homeless during the winter this means extreme hardship, for some homeless living in the sewers means warmth verses dealing with temperatures dropping as low as -25C mid- Winter. This year Mongolia has experienced the worst winter in 30 years. (Photo by Paula Bronstein /Getty Images)

Erdenetsetseg often drinks until she is dead drunk.

ULAAN BAATAR, MONGOLIA-MARCH 16 :  A homeless man warms up inside a homeless shelter, taking a night off from life in the sewer March 16, 2010  in Ulaan Baatar, Mongolia. Since 70 years of communist rule ended in 1990, Mongolia has become one of the most pro-business countries. While economic reforms have brought prosperity to Ulaan Baatar, there still widespread unemployment, some used to work in the now defunct state industries. Approximately over 35% of Mongolians live below the poverty line, many unable to buy basic food needed to survive. Social problems include depression, alcohol abuse, domestic violence and crime. Mongolia suffers with a very high number of alcoholics, all consuming cheap Mongolian vodka that is readily available to the poor and the unemployed, Many Mongolians have immigrated to the capitol city from the far away provinces seeking employment.  For the homeless during the winter this means extreme hardship, for some homeless living in the sewers means warmth verses dealing with temperatures dropping as low as -25C mid- Winter. This year Mongolia has experienced the worst winter in 30 years.  (Photo by Paula Bronstein /Getty Images)

A homeless person exiting the sewer.

ULAAN BAATAR, MONGOLIA-MARCH 16 :  A homeless man warms up inside a homeless shelter, taking a night off from life in the sewer March 16, 2010  in Ulaan Baatar, Mongolia. Since 70 years of communist rule ended in 1990, Mongolia has become one of the most pro-business countries. While economic reforms have brought prosperity to Ulaan Baatar, there still widespread unemployment, some used to work in the now defunct state industries. Approximately over 35% of Mongolians live below the poverty line, many unable to buy basic food needed to survive. Social problems include depression, alcohol abuse, domestic violence and crime. Mongolia suffers with a very high number of alcoholics, all consuming cheap Mongolian vodka that is readily available to the poor and the unemployed, Many Mongolians have immigrated to the capitol city from the far away provinces seeking employment.  For the homeless during the winter this means extreme hardship, for some homeless living in the sewers means warmth verses dealing with temperatures dropping as low as -25C mid- Winter. This year Mongolia has experienced the worst winter in 30 years.  (Photo by Paula Bronstein /Getty Images)

Surrounding the heating pipes to stay warm.

ULAAN BAATAR, MONGOLIA-MARCH 16 :  A homeless man warms up inside a homeless shelter, taking a night off from life in the sewer March 16, 2010  in Ulaan Baatar, Mongolia. Since 70 years of communist rule ended in 1990, Mongolia has become one of the most pro-business countries. While economic reforms have brought prosperity to Ulaan Baatar, there still widespread unemployment, some used to work in the now defunct state industries. Approximately over 35% of Mongolians live below the poverty line, many unable to buy basic food needed to survive. Social problems include depression, alcohol abuse, domestic violence and crime. Mongolia suffers with a very high number of alcoholics, all consuming cheap Mongolian vodka that is readily available to the poor and the unemployed, Many Mongolians have immigrated to the capitol city from the far away provinces seeking employment.  For the homeless during the winter this means extreme hardship, for some homeless living in the sewers means warmth verses dealing with temperatures dropping as low as -25C mid- Winter. This year Mongolia has experienced the worst winter in 30 years.  (Photo by Paula Bronstein /Getty Images)

At night, they can only use candles for light.

ULAAN BAATAR, MONGOLIA-MARCH 13 : Erdenetsetseg,36, drinks vodka sitting on a water pipe, also used as her bed living in a sewer filled with garbage  March 13 2010  in Ulaan Baatar, Mongolia. Erdenetsetseg moved to the capitol city from a province five years ago, without work she collects cans and bottles to make enough money to buy a little food and her daily fix of vodka.  Since 70 years of communist rule ended in 1990, Mongolia has become one of the most pro-business countries. While economic reforms have brought prosperity to Ulaan Baatar, there still widespread unemployment, some used to work in the now defunct state industries. Approximately over 35% of Mongolians live below the poverty line, many unable to buy basic food needed to survive. Social problems include depression, alcohol abuse, domestic violence and crime. Mongolia suffers with a very high number of alcoholics, all consuming cheap Mongolian vodka that is readily available to the poor and the unemployed, Many Mongolians have immigrated to the capitol city from the far away provinces seeking employment.  For the homeless during the winter this means extreme hardship, for some homeless living in the sewers means warmth verses dealing with temperatures dropping as low as -25C mid- Winter. This year Mongolia has experienced the worst winter in 30 years. (Photo by Paula Bronstein /Getty Images)

Drinking alcohol has become their only pleasure.

Comments from Tiexue:

251278745:

Everyone don’t be unreasonably arrogant, China isn’t lacking in such poor people either.

眼镜鱼:

Beijing isn’t lacking either — If you have the chance, go to the Beijing Film Academy campus gates and look under the manhole covers…

华夏毛小哥:

Come back, Mongolians! Great and proud China hopes you guys can come back once again!

国魂1937:

I don’t care whether or not the country is ready to go to war, nor do I care about how many corrupt officials have been caught, I only want to say: Until the issue/problem of the poor people who are the vast majority of the population worrying about their children’s education costs, having a place to live, medical care, their basic survival and dignity is solved, all [other] problems are not problems.

“While meat and wine go to waste inside vermillion gates, the poor freeze outside” [while the rich and powerful waste, the poor are suffering]. I hope in this so-called civilized times, I hope there will no longer be so many poor and long-suffering people dying in the cold winds.

糖葫芦367:

I get the feeling that this will give our beggars and homeless in China an idea…

ymlshpa:

The Soviet Union is good! The Communist International/Comitern is good! Choybalsan is good! At least China doesn’t have people living in sewers! Now even if you random leftovers wanted to come back, old grandpa [China] wouldn’t want you!
Only need to say one thing:
Get lost! Wretches! Bastards!

antihunter001:

Having depended on the Soviet Union, shouldn’t their lives be blissful? Why are they complaining about being poor now? It was their own choice. The Chinese-hating Neo-Nazis are also their peers [Mongolians].

武以安邦:

I’m wondering if someone is going to says “Look at them, definitely not China, living in sewers and yet no one does anything [no chengguan]. So democratic.”

zhb1986:

Once this is exposed, I bet they won’t even have sewers to live in.

铁血勇士07:

This kind of stuff happens in foreign countries too? Then for China to have this kind of problem is very normal!

贫僧吃荤:

Back then, they insisted on independence! Now they’re poor to the extreme! Everyday shouting that they are Genghis Khan’s descendants, yet they themselves have discarded their Mongolian traditions! Only Inner Mongolia has kept their original traditions!

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  1. Mongolia is going on a mineral-based boom. Be interesting to see how it does in contrast to China since Mongolia is a democracy from my understanding.

  2. sofa ! oh yeah!
    take a seat and wait for the haters to blow this article

  3. What a sad state of affairs, but not uncommon in this time and age. Hoping things look up for these individuals.

    • WTF?? That is luxury compared to the place I rented when I was in Beijing. I guess it pays to look around when finding place.

      My toilet didn’t work. All these guys have to do is hang their bums over the drain and let rip.

      I wonder what their mobile reception is like down there…

  4. At least they not eating child flesh like some our great nation Southern provinces.

    We Chinese people should get rid of this stereotype of claiming everything is ours .

  5. every country have a problem u know guys then just see

  6. u must care about your own country problem u must not see another country

  7. From these two factors:
    -people drinking too much in sewers, failing to exploit adequately the mineral resources of Mongolia
    -the fact that Mongolian mineral deposits historically always were part of China, now a freshly-declared core-interest
    it is easy to conclude that Mongolia should surrender immediately to the CCP, and railroads should be built to allow the Han people to settle there more easily and establish their business relations. Maybe the tens of Neo-Nazi groups can serve as a pretext to setoff the spark of this “backwards-invasion”, “backwards” because up to now it was more the Mongolians kicking central plains’ arse.
    Also, the way these people live: drinking,collecting trash, sleeping in the sewers – is in every point exactly the same as those illegal Chinese immigrants in Europe. Except sometimes those get forced to do some sowing work as well.

    • read: “tens of people in Neo-Nazi groups”.. so not that much.

    • “is in every point exactly the same as illegal Chinese immigrants in Europe.” in holland we dont have trash collectors. and i never seen a chinese person picking up trash to sell lol. here those illegal immigrants work in restaurants, hairsalon and places like that. so chinese trash collectors in europe? it more like 1 on 5 000 000 people that does it.

      • well, at least in finland collecting bottles from trashcans is an activity that many poorer people do, some of them immigrants some of them not. it’s usually a “side business” though, whenever they’re walking they’ll check the trashcans for bottles, peeking into them.

        (however, not all who participate in this activity would really need to, on certain holidays it’s pretty profitable, if you’re a hourly worker, so the more there’s bottles to have the more of those persons spring up)

        those sewers don’t look so bad compared to tents. were there melting snow though.. then a different story.

    • Invading another country for its natural resources under false pretenses? I think you’ve got the wrong country here.

      • Which civilization is innocent of that?
        Not many people have a leg to stand on when entering that argument. It’s best for a person to not get self righteous when they come from a line of rapists.

        • One would have thought that we should learn from our mistakes. Moreover, a whole lot of wrongs does not make a right, just because it was done in the past does not mean we should condone it in the future. By your logic, if a person’s family has committed crime then it’s best to continue to commit said crimes rather than point out the immorality and illegality of them?

          • Is that what I said?
            I thought that I said that a person should not get self righteous when they come from a group of people who have done the same thing. This had been a reply to your previous comment in which you insinuated that another country (Probably refering to the U.S., but I won’t assume what someone else is writing.) is more guilty of entering foreign lands with selfish intent.
            By my logic the actual best course of action is to first repair the damages your own people have committed before (Or even while.) geting indignant about the actions of others. That’s actually how the logic of my first comment plays out.
            It may also be interesting to note that my message has not changed in my two posts here.

      • Oh yes the oil certainly is flowing in the US now! The gas prices are SO low!

        /s

        get a life and learn facts.

        • The United States did not go to war to bring lower oil prices to the average consumer. Iraq under Hussein was seen as (probably was) a destabilizing factor in the flow of middle eastern oil supplies. Although the postwar insurgency have disrupted dreams developing the second largest mapped oil reserves in the world, it didn’t stop the profits of the five biggest oil firms soar from ~$40 billion in 2003 to about $120 last year. The reasons for war were multi-pronged with energy security and cheap energy among many many geopolitical and economic reasons. Moreover, the postwar insurgency in Iraq is not something foreseen and intimidated many oil firms from large investments, that only shows failure of robbery but does not negate the break and entering.

          Oh and lest we forget, where are the WMDs and connections to Al Qaeda/9-11? Those are the reasons given for going to war, which were re-framed to the public as fight for justice, liberty, and all that good stuff. People who believe all that seem to be willfully ignorant on all the other dictatorships/brutal regimes in Sudan, Rwanda, Burma etc, and no one is eager to do much about it.

          Did you mean anything else by “learn facts” or only that the oil prices at the pump have not dropped?

    • Umm, you are just ignorant and stupid. Even America will not let China get greater control of Mongolia. With all that mineral resources, Russia and America will try to get control of it.

      And you say that it is the fact that Mongolia mineral deposits historically always were part of China?
      This statement just shows your mediocre intelligence that is making “your people” look bad.

      Also, as I can see, these pictures are from almost 7-8 years ago. It is much better now.

  8. “武以安邦:

    I’m wondering if someone is going to says “Look at them, definitely not China, living in sewers and yet no one does anything [no chengguan]. So democratic.”

    I love how there’s so much self criticism and that the word “democratic” stuck around long enough to be translated. The Internet’s great.

  9. 眼镜鱼:

    Beijing isn’t lacking either — If you have the chance, go to the Beijing Film Academy campus gates and look under the manhole covers…
    —————————————————–

    Eh? What? XD

  10. at first i felt sorry for them but then i saw them getting drunk on cheap vodka then i just lol

  11. It seems so god-damn Chinese!! but it turns out not in China, so it seems people don’t know how to reply on this

  12. Oh my god.
    That 17 years old pregnant girl crawling out of her “house” looks at least twice older…

  13. Setting aside the unpleasant sewer environment, making your home underground is not a bad idea if you have no proper home in a freezing Mongolian winter. The temperature below ground is a relatively constant 10 – 16 degrees Celsius, much warmer than the minus 25 degrees reported above. Plus there is no wind chill factor.

    There is in fact a tradition of cave dwellings in northern provinces such as Henan and Shaanxi. The soft loessial soils allow cave dwellings to be excavated, providing homes that are spared the worst of baking summers and freezing winters. Getting enough natural light into the cave dwellings however is one problem that is shared with living in a sewer. There is simply never enough sunlight or daylight.

  14. Won’t be surprised that one fine day, CNN and the Western press will published one of this photo and say that is China for sure. Be careful.

  15. They have this in the United States as well.

    Nowhere are people safe from the tyranny of the banksters and government, feeding off of the people like vampires.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2651937/The-people-living-in-drains-below-Las-Vegas.html

  16. it seems some chinese need to get outside and look underneath certain places. this problem exists in every chinese city. sometimes much worse. i also have seen homeless in tokyo, new york, paris, london, seoul… it is a world problem. the rich are raging war against the poor and the poor have no energy or allies to fight back.

  17. Mongolia is at the cross road facing a rapidly rising China, in next 30 years, if it wants to be a country as Canada vs. US, it have to integrate its economy with China, otherwise, it would become a country as Mexico bordering US.

  18. Was life better for them during Communism? Life is unfair. I wish we could separate the good from the evil like The Man in Black (or Santa Claus) and help the poor people who aren’t evil. Maybe the liquor is affordable and keeping them warm.

  19. the magnitude of the problem at hand and the sort of comments people keep posting here just makes me wonder! what the hell has poverty, sickness and disease got to do with a persons descent? people are suffering all over,so much pain agony and tears and yet the little ones who happen to be privileged for what ever reason only known to them would descend into childish arguments as where are they are ancestry hails from? the human race is truly fucked

  20. “It’s those god damn Mongorians again, stop. Stop right there, Mongorians. God damn it stop, stop breaking down my shitty wall you stupid Mongowians.”

  21. too bad Ai Weiwei isn’t homeless. He wouldn’t be in such a predicament.

  22. You, all fucking chinese, listen. I’m Mongolian and hate Chinese . Because Chinese border with Mongolia was Great Chinese Wall untill 20-th century. Now they clame Outer Mongolia too

    • Cheers. Mongolians got balls. Chinese just talk talk talk about how they are the sons of God-the-yellow-Emperor who fashioned them out clay, and breed breed breed until all you can hear is them talk talk talk. The world relies on you to contain Han Chinese, Mongolians. Since the PRC doesn’t recognize international treatises (cf. Taiwan, Senkaku soon Okinawa), feel free to push your border back to the great wall in due course. Just wait for 2 successive years of bad harvest, unite 2 tribes with bows and horses and voilà. Godspeed, you (and Japan and Russia and India and Afghanistan) are our only hope!

    • Wasn’t that Mongolians’ fault? Having took over China, moved to China, ruled China incompetently for centuries. Now you are complaining?

  23. As a kid I watched Ninja Turtles, so I thought living in the sewer looked kind of cool and cozy (didn’t really consider the smell though). My friends and I even looked around for a way to get underground, but I didn’t realize that my small town in east Texas didn’t have a vast labyrinth of tunnels below. But now I realize that living in a sewer does have its drawbacks. Who would have thunk it?

  24. Reminds me of the poor guys sleeping on top of subway air vents in Toronto.

    But at least the subway guys don’t have little kids with them.

  25. “Come back, Mongolians! Great and proud China hopes you guys can come back once again!”

    Does this poster mean he is ready for another invasion? He needs to read a history book, or two, not printed in China.

    • Yes. I was wondering about that one as well. Following the same logic Korea should “come back” as well, or possibly you could flip it around and say that China should “come back” to Mongolia, along with most of Asia. It has absolutely nothing to do with history, and, worryingly, nothing to do with self-determination.

      The absolutely unquestioning acceptance of this “come back”/”it’s ours”/”[place name] has always been a part of China” logic is one of the things that I find most disturbing about modern China.

      Great photos.

    • Fuck you idiot!!! Cao Ni Da ye!!!!

  26. here it is in the USA
    LAS VEGAS:
    http://www.beneaththeneon.com/beneath-the-neon.asp
    and NEW YORK CITY:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Days_(film)

    It happens even in the richest of countries

    • These aren’t sewers with shit, grey water, used condoms and tampons flowing through them, are they?

      I have been down sewers in the UK, and believe me, they are totally unliveable places for numerous reasons.

      These are more like steam tunnels than anything else, to carry the heating pipes.

  27. this is what tibet would be like if they were independent, just another irrelevant troubled state going nowhere

    • You mean Tibet could actually have universal literacy, not just 50% or so?

      Every hard-working Tibetan could have his own SUV?

      • No, he means more like 10% literacy rate, and every hard-working Tibetan will be serfs again under the lamas, trapped in a feudal system where they are mere chattel.

        • Strange. I thought what he meant was “If Tibet was independent, it would be like Mongolia”. Maybe I need to practice creative reading.

          Anyway, Mongolia also had all this illiteracy, poverty, feudalism stuff when they were still ruled from Beijing.

  28. Fauna, what they live in are actually heating shafts, not sewers. I guess this is somewhat of a technicality, but still..

  29. Here is a video of someone who actually talks to these people, not just photographs them:

    http://medeelel.com/tv-nevtruuleg/tanaid-honoyo/tanaid-honoyo-transheind-2007-12-17

    Helps if you understand Mongolian, though.

  30. Mongolia has deep traditions. I think living in sewers is just an alternative. They could live in gers if they wanted to. I just visited Mongolia and it was fantastic. The people are very comunal. They have their strong traditions. We loved them.

  31. I think it’s better to be independent and have your own free will and be poor rather than rich and under someone’s control.

    I’m just saying…

  32. what an angle. Here is a Chinese website posting the pictures of the poor in Mongolia, as if poverty is nonexistent in china (where seemingly most people think that China would reach Utopia someday.) At the same time, lot of the postings here are very self-evident that there is something wrong going on in the deepest core of the Chinese society. You may or may not acknowledge how rotten the structure to be, is and will be unless one billion people truly believe that they are on right track.
    Ask any Tibetan, would you rather live like these people in the picture than live as who you are in China?

  33. You people can’t and are not in a position to judge Mongolia based on these pictures. These people are drunks, as if China doesn’t have those, every country in the world has drunks, alcoholics, prostitutes etc. Why can’t we just co-exist peacefully without pushing each others buttons? These posts are just pointless not to mention silly. Is the admin of this website trying to say something with this?? Mongolchuuddaa handaj helehed iimerhuu zuil deer tsag zavaa ureh hereg bgamuda? Bid nar ekh ornoo ymar gdgiig medej bga, terige tsash ni damjulad, badraagaad yvahad boliishd.

    • Fuck you you all stinky chinese!!!!! Go to the Sichuan faraway countryside in China, even worse life you can see…. They shit and use it for them to grow the vegetables good…it means they eat their shit back!!! I admit China is getting stronger but the nastiest people in the world!!!!!!!

      • feeling humiliated and taking on all my people ?

        come on brave warrior, just try to invade us again and you will
        see who is weaker

        do something for your own people to improve their life, posting
        hatred here will not fix your problem.

        Got balls? then prove it with your action otherwise what you have down there is simply a ballon

    • I don’t think the intention of this article or of the photographs is to belittle Mongolians. If anything, I thought the tone was sympathetic to the plight of the sewer dwellers. Go to any large city in the industrialised world (not just in China) and you will find homeless people living in desperate poverty, without adequate housing. The story could just as easily be about homeless people in Detroit or Tokyo or Budapest. If the pictures make us uncomfortable, perhaps even feel a little guilty, it is a credit to the extraordinary efforts of the photographers who took them.

    • yeah u are totally right i agree with u

  34. Picking on people much fewer in number than you is a sign of cowardice. Harping on the failings of people much less fortunate than you is a sign of pathological insecurity.

    Funny how nobody has anything to say about Mongolia except regarding its neo-Nazis and sewer-dwellers. Neither has anything to do with the mainstream of life there. Posts like this say more about the one who posted it than about Mongolia. Same goes for gloating comments.

    And Mongolians, a distinct people, have never regretted their choice to be free of Chinese control. Not even those very few who have to live in sewers.

    • “Picking on people much fewer in number than you is a sign of cowardice. Harping on the failings of people much less fortunate than you is a sign of pathological insecurity”

      this is BS – who ‘s picking on them? it’s just some pictures that some people taken and made its way to chinese forum

      all kinds people on the web making all kinds of crazy comment
      now days and you are one of those

      Mongolian is more than welcome to enjoy their independence and china is repecting that fact and respecting Mongolia as a fully independent nation

      with a fully established displomatic relation, we have embassy
      in mongolia and they have one in Beijing

      that said, there is always unfriendly people on either side and
      we should both work hard to prevent those people to become mainstream

  35. Um.. no wonder they are all poor. They’re a bunch of drunks. At least I have the decency to go to work during the day to pay for my alcohol (and rent.)

  36. These mole people exist everywhere.

    Check out the “mole people” in the USA.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_people

  37. China is like the Africa of Asia. They only have 3 classes. Super rich, poor and extremely poor. And you guys are saying that Mongolia is poor? How many people do you people think lives like this in Mongolia? Not 1,338,612,968(China’s population).

  38. Chinese you are the people that hiding behind the mask. You are living much worse than Mongolians, you know
    Mind your own business!
    Bastards!

  39. hi
    these all alcoholics and its their choice to live there. Live in Mongolia isn’t easy right now but we never ever die from hunger like china. And I want to correct some people’s understanding. China never ruled Mongolia, but we (Mongolians) did. Mongolia and china had ruled by Manchu which was also same ancestors as Mongolian. Manchu never let chinese people move to Mongolia freely only few that get permit went to trade. once Manchu collapse Mongolia and china got there independence. Most chinese say Manchu is chinese dynasty but its not. because officially its Manchu kingdom even tough eventually most Manchu mix with chinese

  40. 2 of the girls are actually pretty. I don’t understand how this can happen to them as some guys would love to take care of them.

  41. 2 of the girls are actually pretty. I don’t understand how this can happen to them as some guys would love to be able to marry and take care of them.

  42. tiao wu in a brothel? I guess you can do that but i don’t think that’s what most of the johns want.

  43. I survived for the majority of my life without patronizing a Chinese eatery serving a non-Chinese clientele. I grew up eating in Chinatown restaurants that served non-tourist traditional Southern Chinese food. Some patrons only ate at these restaurants because they were the old bachelors who worked in America but weren’t allowed to marry, so they lived in bunk beds in shared apartments (not squalor like these days), wore their suit and tie everyday and ate at Joy Luck every night, had congee at Won Kee every morning. Simple clean food, garlic greens, steamed fish, steamed egg, pork bone soup. It was a safe proud dignified environment.

  44. apparently you did not get the irony of it. maybe i should just write it in chinese ‘坐等喷子’
    sorry about that。

  45. ah yes disproven.
    you are taking it out of context man. canibalism as a survival method is not exclusive to china. it is a survival method in theextreme. ever read this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571 so in my context canibalism as a cuisine certainlu not cani balism as away tosurvive yese. excuse my grammar. tping on a phone

  46. proven is the correct response – i.e. proven by the FBI to be a hoax. You sound SO self-righteous, it’s quite shocking.

  47. Ok…, I don’t know history in detail, interesting information though.

    But, I guess as history goes, every part of the world has some part of cannibalisms on its print. The evil sect in europe, dayak people in Indonesia, andes people.

    Though, I think none of them practice cannibalism anymore?

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