British Akmal Shaikh Executed, Chinese Netizen Reactions

Executed Briton Akmal-Shaikh

Please see our earlier post: British Drug Smuggler’s Death Sentence, Netizen Reactions

From Mop:

170 years later, Lin Zexu once again forbids England’s opium!

The highest court has authorised Akmal Shaik’s execution!

The English government’s secret entreaties are useless!

Akmal has been executed by lethal injection!

170 years ago Lin Zexu clearly saw the harm that opium was doing to Guangzhou, searched out all the opium dens, gathered together large amounts of first hand testimonies, and in the nineteenth year of the reign of Daoguang (March 1839) arrived in Guangzhou. On March 19th, Lin Zexu and other officials including Deng Yanzheng summoned thirteen rows of foreign businessmen, and let it be known to them that they were hereby ordered to hand over all of their drugs, and were to never again sell opium, even saying: “As long as there is opium, I will not return, I swear that I won’t stop until the job is finished.”

But the foreign merchants refused to hand over their wares, and after a long struggle, the merchants’ grip was loosened, and all of the opium, approximately 20,000 boxes or 2,370,000 jin, was confiscated. On the twenty second of the fourth month (June 3) it was all burnt on the beach in front of Humen in front of a crowd. In the eighteenth year of the reign of Daoguang, on the fifteenth day of the eleventh month, Lin Zexu was appointed imperial chancellor, and that year, 1839, was the most important year in the history of the banning of opium, and could be said to be Lin Zexu’s most brilliant.

Sometimes Lin Zexu once write a rhyming couplet in his office: “海纳百川有容乃大,壁立千仞无欲则刚”. This couplet’s imagery is vivid, and has a profound message. The first line sternly warns that one should listen to suggestions from all corners, and only then can something be done properly, and an unbeatable position can be assumed. The second is more tempered, when being a government official one must do away with personal wants, and only then can one be unmovable like a mountain, and stand tall. Lin Zexu promoted this kind of energy, commanded respect, and sets an example for his descendants.

And today, 170 years later, an Englishman has once again poured salt in our wounds!!!!!!!!!

Early in the morning of September 12, 2007, Akmal Shaikh of England, on a flight originating from Dushanbe, Turkmenistan, carried 4030 grams of “viper” on an international flight bound for Urumqi’s international airport, in Xinjiang. Upon going through border inspection, our customs officials discovered said “viper” in his carry-on luggage. After inspection, it was discovered to be of 84.2% purity.

Dammit, if you don’t die Akmal, whose soul will we use to honour Lin Zexu’s magnificent deeds?

China isn’t the China of hundreds of years ago!

Almost 200 years later the British government once again is acting out the same part!

But they have forgotten… China isn’t that desolate country any more!

When we banned opium in the past, our country’s power disappeared like the sun at night, when the guns were pointed at our heads, we were as nervous as dogs.

When we ban opium now, our country has the same position on drugs, but the guns of yesteryear are gone, but everyone’s whining.

Comments from Mop:

好想爆管理员的菊花:

Nowadays only we can sell drugs, you foreigners want to come here to sell yours and steal our business? Do you wanna die?

70mph:

Before, Lin Zexu burnt a whole heap of opium, the Brits started a war; today we’ve executed one of them, they can only whine in the background.

whatsoever啦:

That was just an act perpetrated by a single person, why do you have to overstate its significance? Do you want to see the world in chaos? I support the Chinese government’s judgment, and Lin Zexu was a great hero, but there isn’t much connection between the two.

sy_active:

I’d like to know the specific details [of the case]. Why did the English government feel it could meddle [in the case]?

lyg-boy:

What’s the big hype about this… people are executed by firing squad every day… we shouldn’t be attaching great significance to this execution.

a23696:

WHAT IS LZ TALKING ABOUT? COMPARING OUR GLORIOUS MODERN HARMONIOUS SOCIETY WITH THE CORRUPT QING DYNASTY!? YOU SCHEMING BASTARD!

我曾经是传奇:

Drug dealers should be killed, drug users also.

lilalai:

History is always complicated. We’ve gone through hundreds of years of history, and we’re at the same place we were 170 years ago! Old Mao said it best: “Imperialism doesn’t die in our hearts!”

Anonymous user 538851:

Prime Minister Brown, do you think that China is stuck in the times of the Opium war? You are an example of an undeveloped life form, an alien that has undergone genetic mutation, a high school student with the development of a kindergartener, a mongoloid inborn frog head, an abandoned infant at the top of Everest, the turd blocking the toilet, a dark descendant of Africa, hermaphrodite gorilla, a hippo squashed by Noah’s ark, the erupting mouth of a new volcano, the shameless sound of a barking horn, an Eskimo’s disgrace, a superman living with cockroaches, a rotting vegetable, a person made of rubbish who smells, the etymological source of the word “spurned”.

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  1. The Brits can be commended for freeing the convicted Lockerbie bomber on humanitarian grounds or was it the Scots, there was some talk about a business deal with the Libyans though. British Law also charged a former Israeli minister for crimes against humanity and issued a warrant of arrest.

    • Have you ever seen pictures of what the jews did during the gaza massacre? You don’t get to shell a UN fuel depot for 4 hours despite frantic calls from the UN official every 10 minutes trying to get you to stop. As for this creature, he is an middle easterner of some kind, NOT a Brit. If an African living in China commits a crime and I make a post “Chinese commits murder,” what would people here say? He’s not a Brit. such ppl never will be. Just as the Africans in China will never be Chinese.

  2. china and chinese are always right,so guys chill and forget about these noise makers”””’

  3. should we forget the past? of course not, the chinese murdered one of every six tibetans, and they are still killing Tibetans and minorities in the streets of their homeland. as chinese remember Japanese and the British, we Tibetans will never forget chinese ethnic cleansing policies. very soon, we are going to kick out china from tibet like they did Japanese and Mongols.

  4. China has its own laws on drugs. So does alot of other countries which does use the death penalty for drugs. It reminds me of another case which involved an Vietnamese Aussie who was executed by Singapore.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Tuong_Nguyen

    Sure, there will be community outcry, chest beating by leaders and media attention.

    The real question is would this case change anything?

    It is still business as usual between Singapore and Australia.

  5. Everyone knows the “mental illness” thing is a shaky last ditch defense, but do people in China know it’s common to use it in other countries? Or do they assume this kind “cheap trick” is only applied when outsiders deal with China?

    What’s important is that EVERYONE IS TAKING THIS OUT OF CONTEXT. Only sad, insecure boys spending their entire days online will try to link this to “historical shame” or some such bullshit.

    All 1st world countries will try to extract a citizen convicted of a crime in another country, even if they believe he or she is guilty. It is standard procedure to use any diplomatic and legal means to do so. In Canada, we tried to pull out Canadians whenever they get in trouble no matter what it is they did or which country they did it in. Even when Canadians dont’ sympathize with the person. This isn’t some kind of insult to whatever country, nor is it a prideful gesture in assuming superiority. It’s simply standard practice.

    I agree with the Chinese court’s ruling. But the Opium wars, past imperialism, China’s rise etc. has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CASE.

    • if it doesn’t do with this case then fine, then you should tell the Gordon and his people to stop whining maybe those Chinese youth wouldn’t bring up this issue right?

  6. …But of course this British guy and his case is USED as a rallying point for the self-loathing, inferiority complex having nationalist youth. SO, ‘off with his head’ right Emperor Hu?

    Shit hasn’t changed for a thousand years STILL!

    However, the guy was still a douchebag…

  7. Has anyone yet compared the case of the British Government protest to the Chinese regarding Akmal Shaikh’s execution and yet they will soon hand over by extradition to the Americans a man with a known lifelong mental condition, the Computer ‘Hacker’ Gary McKinon. (He Hacked into the Pentagon systems) He faces a lifelong prison sentence; or do the Americans just want him for his expertise?

  8. Drug smugglers always have ready-made excuses when they get caught. He knew what the penalty for smuggling drugs into China was, but nevertheless arrived in China with 4,030 grams of hard drugs in his luggage. Maybe he was suicidal.

  9. You get death for 50 grams here; the guy got caught with 80 times that amount. He got the same deal a citizen gets.

    The media say he was just being a nice guy carrying somebody else’s suitcase across national border; sorry but it’s been common sense since customs services were invented to thoroughly check anything you’re asked to run past them. Nor was the lad on his first trip abroad.

    He would also have known that any alien anywhere is subject to the the laws of the host country, just like any other pedestrian sharing his sidewalk of the moment. Lemme know if that changes so I can take out Saudi citizenship and have four wives in Paris or New York.

    It’s also kinda fun to see all the media using the same photo of a mug with a happy-go-lucky half-crazy grin on it. We all have a thousand faces. I’m sure some of his look more single-minded.

    A deeper issue is that the guy is nominally a subject of a kingdom that once forced China at gunpoint to _legalize_ the sale of opium (from which we make heroin nowadays). That still hits a really raw nerve here: it took the Communists four full years to eradicate drug addiction in 1953 and start undoing the net population decline of 40 million people since the infamous Opium Wars that started in 1839 (more cosmetically called “Open Door Policy”).

    For an idea of how seriously raw that nerve is, the last pair of crackpot aliens who got death in China were an Italian and a Japanese who bungled an attempt to assassinate the head of state in 1951.

    • @Arthur. This is just for your information. I think if you become a Saudi citizen you could expect to have as many as four wives as long as you are married over there. Subsequently, if you were to travel to Paris, London, and New York etc. your marriage to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th wife would not be legally recognised in that country. I think the respective authorities would either recognise your 1st wife, or under the circumstances, they would only allow you to nominate one woman as your legal spouse. The other three wives would not be recognised according to French, British nor US jurisdiction; but of course, under the law of Sha’ria, your marriage to the other women would still be recognised according to Islam. Your concurrent marriage to other women would still hold as legally binding in Saudi Arabia or in any other Islamic state.

  10. Some folks think 150 years ago is a long time ago. If you’re American, heck, it’s about 60% of your country’s lifespan.

    For China, it’s 3.3% of 5,000 years.

    And you can still read the fear of the Yellow Hordes between the lines of much Western media coverage of China when the hordes were Mongol, not Han: even though on paper it qualifies the Beijing-based Yuan Dynasty, the Yuan were Mongols, not Han.

  11. Jones, if you’re American, it’s 60% of your nation’s lifespan; if you’re Chinese is 3.3% of 5,000 years.

    They have the Opium Wars wired into, and alive inside, their DNA.

  12. Jones, if you’re American, 1839 to 2010 is about 70% of your nation’s lifespan; if you’re Chinese is 3.3% of 5,000 years.

    They have the Opium Wars wired into, and alive inside, their DNA.

  13. You want China to get up to your speed in a New York minute: um, about 80 km. from where I live, there is one, maybe two, DF-5A ICBMs targeting New York. The warheads aren’t even mounted. They’re stored at a separate facility according to the Federation of American Scientists. Shows how much they care.

    You wanna go back to Plymouth Rock? OK, so let’s say 50%. No, don’t go back to Columbus: he only made it to the Caribbean Islands and Colombia.

    I can’t give you a whole E-learning course on Culture but it’s what you have in your bones, made from the soil that has fed, flooded, quaked and emotionally stirred your family for millennia. Culture is there, in your eyes, heart and mind like air in your lungs at every instant.

    Culture is what has always faithfully sewn China back together every time it’s been occupied and/or dismembered.

    The USA and China are two distinct cases. The current republic may only be 60 years of age, but it was built upon a past; the USA is a transplanted orphan of European culture grafted onto a culture it destroyed (well, there are a few million Native Americans left). You have started a new lineage and it will remain vulnerable for many centuries to come.

    I have no long-term worries for China, Iraq or Afghanistan: they are past masters of damage control thanks to numerous invasions.

    I do however worry for the USA.

    • I applaude to you.
      You are seriously one of the very few foreigners living in China who truely understand the chinese mentality and just accepts Chinese for being Chinese instead of condemning everything and compares everything to the western standard!

  14. 1st of all, stop with the 5000years shit. The country in it’s current guise is 60 years MAX. Just because people have lived on a certain half acre of hell for 5000 years doesn’t mean that they are exclusive in that claim or that it is any older than anywhere else on EARTH. Nor does it give them the right to preach to us like we were infants (or for them to behave like infants).
    Back on track now…

  15. Congratulations to the British on pursuing this case, if they hadn’t then the Chinese would take it to the next step and start busting or framing all kinds of people for lesser reasons. They’d then say “but you didn’t protest about the crazy guy”. The whole thing is about YOUR rights, what tiny bit if nothing there are of them.

  16. Stu, where do you get your right to preach to them?

    Any alien in your country is subject to its laws (unless an accredited diplomat).

    The authorities prosecuted the guy according to national law; all death sentences are subject to automatic appellate review to ensure due process. The appeals court confirmed the sentence. Trials are faster in China because you appear before three judges; this approach is used by the US military as well. Three judges reach agreement faster than 12 legally incompetent jurors.

    There is discussion of making trials even faster by introducing plea bargaining, but the majority of legal opinion here argues it is too open to abuse. Crime, while still very low by Western standards, has been rising relatively dramatically thanx to transition to a market economy.

  17. This guy was NOT BRITISH. He was a Pakistani with a British passport.

    I don’t know if the guy was nutters, personally I think that it was a case of him being an unwitting drug mule for someone else. Someone he thought of as a friend. More than likely he hadn’t a clue what was in that luggage.

    I suppose that there was someone in the arrival hall of the airport waiting to see if he got off and when he didn’t went and called the dealer in Tajikistan or wherever that the guy was caught. Akmal (the mule) told the police that someone will be coming in after him and gave a name, but that person never showed up (because he was tipped off).

    Akmal took the fall and was put to death. Now in the USA, they would not put you to death for that much heroin, but the DEA would put him in prison for a very long time, and frankly, I’d rather be put to death than be in a cage with strangers, killers, rapists and psychopaths, eating awful food and living in a room the size of a closet watching your bunkmate deficate everyday for the next 20 years. I’d rather die.

    • Senor B.W.

      You write: “frankly, I’d rather be put to death than be in a cage with strangers, killers, rapists… for the next 20 years. I’d rather die.”

      There is a Life after life.

      I don’t know if I would have the courage to survive a 20 year sentence.

      I do know that if you read the (auto)biographies of Nasser, Mandela, Zhou Enlai and more who have left their mark on world history, prison only broke them so that they could reach the next higher level of courage.

      Still others, like Castro and Stalin, found the same transformational virtues in Christian boarding schools.

  18. REPLY TO MR. JONES
    “However, this still has nothing to do…with relevance of the Opium War to this topic”
    See last reply
    “What about the US do you worry about?”
    Same as other folks: It’s overextended and dragging the rest of the world down with it. Nobody intelligent wants to see it disappear but they do hope for way less unilateral action, disdain for international law and predatory corporate behavior and trade policies.
    “(How could) the length of time since the Opium War…possibly be relative to this guy’s drug smuggling apart from a…reference to his nationality and…drugs he was arrested for. To me, it’s like if a Japanese guy went nuts …in the US and killed several people, and then everyone starts claiming how it’s the return of Pearl Harbor.
    You answered that yourself: what ever made you think of Pearl Harbor 70 years ago except the magic word “Japanese”? In this particular case, the magic word was “British”.
    Length of time plays second fiddle to the power of the impression: the Declaration of Independence may mean more to you than your next door neighbour yet one is centuries old and (presumably) miles away while the other is handy and present.

  19. Me again.

    Did some math concerning the heroin.

    He was caught with nine pounds of heroin. A pound is 453 grams. 453g (X) 9= 4077 grams of heroin.

    Looking on the internet, an average dosage of needle heroin is .008 or 8/1000th of a gram. Using that figure one would divide the weight of the heroin smuggled divided per usage.

    4077 grams/.008 dosage = 509,625 individual dosages. Over a half million. That is enough heroin to dose 20% of the population of Urumqi.

    This isn’t a few joints we are talking about. The guy got caught smuggling a weapon of mass destruction.

  20. Me again.

    Did some math concerning the heroin.

    He was caught with nine pounds of heroin. A pound is 453 grams. 453g (X) 9= 4077 grams of heroin.

    Looking on the internet, an average dosage of needle heroin is .008 or 8/1000th of a gram. Using that figure one would divide the weight of the heroin smuggled divided per usage.

    4077 grams/.008 dosage = 509,625 individual dosages. Over a half million. That is enough heroin to dose 20% of the population of Urumqi.

    This isn’t a few joints we are talking about. The guy got caught smuggling a weapon of mass destruction.

    • @ Joe Banks. Obviously, Akmal Shaikh was duped into carrying 4Kg of heroin, which would ultimately be distributed amongst local drug dealers or drug users in (Urumqi) Xinjiang Province. According to the official media, Akmal Shaikh was duped by an international drugs gang based in Poland. However, I am still perplexed as to how this heroin would have landed in the hands of local drug dealers or drug users. I mean, do you suppose that Shaikh already had prior instructions to meet with a local drug dealer in Urumqi? Surely, the plan would be to intercept Akmal Shaikh with his briefcase at some point during his visit, in which case, there must be a local contact in Urumqi?

      Last but not least, I think most people are quite familiar with the fact that drugs trafficking is quite common in major urban centres in China; especially with regards to Blacks selling dope to Western expatriates in nightclubs, street corners, and other seedy places. However, the example of Akmal Shaikh is different to common drugs trafficking, because the amount he carried was enough to kill 2,800 people – hence, the death penalty in this case. That’s not to say that common drug dealers are above the law, but the amount of drugs trafficking in their case is probably a lot less than 40Kg. I would imagine that anybody who’s caught dealing illicit drugs less than 40Kg is still liable to criminal prosecution, but in their case the penalty would be imprisonment and/or a fine as opposed to the death penalty.

      It would be interesting to get other people’s opinion about this.

  21. If the British government had applied pressure earlier, this guy would be back home in a mental hospital by now. But the pressure was applied too late, so it became a matter of face for the Chinese government not to give him a mental health evaluation.
    Only foreigners have a chance of getting justice from the courts in China. And only if their government handles the situation correctly.

  22. The bloke was mentally ill. The Chinese murdered him without giving him the examination he was supposed to have under their law. About right for an uncivilised country such as China. I wonder if any country with the death penalty can really call themselves civilised.

  23. RonF, He was indeed crazy, or at least stupid, to cross national borders with 4 kg. of heroin and/or accepting to carry luggage across said borders without inspecting the contents. The other explanation, of course, is greed. I don’t know the guy; perhaps neither do you: we can only speculate.

    As said earlier, before the first court of instance, his only plea was that he didn’t know what he was carrying. The insanity plea was first injected at appellate level, where it is inadmissible because the job of an appeals court is to confirm the defendant got due process. It did.

    The death penalty kicks in here at 50 grams.

    He had 4,000 grams.

    Ignorance of the law does not pass for an excuse in most countries, including yours.

    • Arthur,

      Are you saying the trafficking of narcotic drugs is also a capital crime in the US? You seemed to suggest the threshold to receive the death penalty is 50 grams or more of illicit drugs in the US. Which country are you referring to in respect of the 50 grams limit: China or USA?

  24. Hugo,

    Actually, aliens here are often at a disadvantage in legal disputes but yes, officers go out of their way to be nice because they feel we are guests and they have a duty to represent China as an hospitable country.

    On justice, um, it’s an imperfect system anywhere. In a market economy, judges, officers and lawyers do what they can. Decades ago, money didn’t talk much above the level of a hard-to-negotiate whisper; now it’s a tedious imperious loudmouth, just like in my hometown Brooklyn.

    • Arthur,
      Have you ever been arrested? Involved in a police incident? If so please elaborate and tell me how you know Chinese police are so fucking hospitable to foreigners????

  25. It is not drug dealer that should have mental disease test. It is supporters of drug dealers who need mental disease test for support criminal.

  26. Why would china have to give a cheese-burger fuck if he’s british,indian or eskimo..You move weight,get caught,get murdered in a fashionable style of execution.

    Some dude got caught for moving Kg’s of marijuana through beijing airport,last year or so..muthfacka faced the fuckin death sentence. It wasnt that hard

    So what makes this claimed-to-be-phsycho drugmule different,Its not about race,people..Its the law of the land

    Abide by it,you won’t feel the fury of them chinese dragons lol

  27. You make Lin Zexu out to be a hero, when he actually was one of the triggers that caused China to be so weak over the past 150 years. Wasn’t he also banished shortly afterwards?

  28. The majority of the British people support this decision. They laugh at the fact that their Prime Minister went at length to beg another country to free a criminal. What Gordon Brown did disgraced the UK and people have had enough of his rubbish

  29. the majority of the UK ‘dont ‘ support the decision actually. so we have no idea where you got that info from mr chinese. “blatantly obvious” the man was clinically nuts, (1) the man was 53 and thought he could goto china and be a popstar (2)carrying 4000grams of heroin into china for some gang lol (3)the prime minister only asked for a ‘simple’ medical assessement, the chinks could have waited 1 or 2 weeks for that, but like homosexuals, the disabled, the chinese will execute anyone who defy them, and everyone knows that his execution was already set, and the chinks wont budge ‘for fear of loss of face’ or some shit. The man only has himself to blame, but this just shows the rest of the world ‘yet again’ how the chinese dont have a fricking clue about mental illness, because they just believe in herbs and shit. He should said he was gay, coz your government think that homosexual is mental illness haha. the yanks dropped the atom bomb on the wrong dam country, should have wiped out china, dirty rats

    • I don’t know where you live Mao, or if you are Chinese,British or Pakistani for that matter, but in this case it does matter, perhaps you will say, then we can half guess the reason for your awful post?

      Where I live in the South West of England 99% are adament that Akman got his due reward. We in England are sick of people who come to us under various pretext and only claim to be British when they need welfare or international help. Akman ran a small business in London, he should have stuck to it where he was safe.

      I also think your email is most offensive to any nationality, whatever their point of view. You should put your argument without lowering to ‘youtube speak.’ then people may listen!

  30. Like I said earlier, the lad argued before the court of first instance he was only carrying a bag of unknown contents for a friend: judges hear that sob story often. The appeal is a bad time to invent the insanity plea. It is possible, but if the appeals court finds no grounds to substantiate any insanity, it can deny the motion.

    Moreover, since over a year or so ago in China, every death sentence automatically goes up before the Supreme Court for confirmation.

    Will somebody please tell me some day as soon as that guarantee is extended to folks on death row in the USA.

  31. As for homosexuality, there was a gay pride thingie in Shanghai not long ago. Not my thing at all, but live & let live. Theoretically at least, they’re an endangered species, so let’s be nice to them.

    Too bad, “mao” that you have such weird ideas about China: I’ve lived here for seven years now and, um, even if I were a rabid soul-saving Jehovah’s Witness or Seventh Day Adventist, I’d still think you were in an alternate dimension of spacetime.

    My only advice to you is to NEVER travel or, if you are still in your early teens, to keep BOTH hands on the keyboard at all times lest you get overexcited by distractions of the sort that prevail at that age.

  32. I lived in China for 2 years and I have to say you guys need a spliff or somthing your all fucked in the head and your government sucks ass. As for this guy who got executed,as an Englishman I think it was right he was executed. Your country, your rules. Your ideas that the English don’t agree with this are wrong, but what can you expect from people who still shit in A HOLE IN THE FLOOR!

  33. And the only crazy thing is why would u try to sell smeck to the chinese in urumqi? They cant afford it man, of all the places to sell smack? to a bunch of fucking sand jockeys that can only pay in camel turd.

  34. Funny, Lin Zexu’s tirade against opium trafficking reminded me of Andrew Jackson’s “den of vipers” tirade against banksters.

    I doubt it would be very hard to show a nexus between the two either. Nor is it very likely the plutocrats have given up the trade.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7009998324250484369#

    http://www.amazon.com/Big-White-Lie-Cocaine-Epidemic/dp/156025064X

  35. The links to that crime trail are everywhere…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oszATUJ4IRE

    http://www.madcowprod.com/04182006.html

    …but that’s enough for this forum…

  36. I was right. I found a nexus in about 5 minutes of research.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/14/drug-money-saved-banks-la_n_391337.html

    http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2009/3610stop_brit_assault_usa.html

    Of course there is also former Assistant Secretary of HUD/whistleblower Catherine Austin Fitts, who makes points about the nexus in just about all her talks…

  37. I am bipolar. I know it is wrong to deal in drugs. I know what would happen if I tried to do that. I feel sad for the man’s family but I do not believe his mental problems excused his behaviour. If you visit another country you agree to respect their laws.

  38. The Chinese race does not, I repeat, does not value life in any manner whatsoever.

  39. I feel very bad for Akmal. As someone who suffers depression, I believe that he should have been given a chance. It is not right to execute someone like that. There are much worse people that deserve execution.

    • Yeah I agree. It should be for the kind of people who carry 4kg of heroine and then drop the “Oh I’m insane, that’s why I’m in this situation” statement. Oh wait…………………

  40. Lol. So u think drug is not available in China? How much u need?

  41. why would a brown person go to china anyway? white ppl only really go there to get laid.

  42. “WHAT IS LZ TALKING ABOUT? COMPARING OUR GLORIOUS MODERN HARMONIOUS SOCIETY WITH THE CORRUPT QING DYNASTY!? YOU SCHEMING BASTARD!”

    Wait a minute: What is the Chinese equivalent of all caps, given that the characters don’t have majuscule and miniscule forms. Or was that comment originally in English.

  43. MOP, you produced an online article full of lies, but you are Chinese so this is expected. FIRST= 170 years ago Lin Zexu clearly saw the harm that opium was doing to Guangzhou, this is a total fabrication, the person you mentioned and other corrupt Chinese were earning a fortune from the opium trade but kept demanding more. When refused their greed got the better of them and they became a MOB of angry pencils. The opium trade in China was a result of local demand. Britain and the world at that time did not understand the true nature of Opium, when Britain wanted to trade with pencils in China, the constant demand they met was for “OPIUM” or are you suggesting traders brought opium to China and held people down forced them to ingest it and buy it? What an idiot you really are. As usual the Chinese choose to distort and lie about history e.g the worlds version of history is fake and only China tells the truth, have you any idea how much the educated world laughs at and tolerates these constant lies?
    LASTLY. The person executed whas not representing the British government when he tried to smuggle opium, why do you dishonest cowards try to suggest that?. British trade in China now has created countless thousand of jobs for unemployed Chinese that would usually be riding around on bikes on dusty unmanaged roads. The smuggler was not truly British he was a “Pakistanie” that had obtained a British passport. Do you honestly think if China executed a real British citizen that Britain would not right now be seriously punishing your corrupt government? I get so disappointed when I read articles online by pencils that choose the Chinese standard path of telling lies. If you want to join the global family you need to all start learning to tell the truth., or you will be rejected. Now, all of you try and continue on your path of reform or investment and help at civilising you will be withdrawn within the next few years.

  44. Mike: Nice one! but what’s the bet your comment may be removed?

  45. So this sends a signal that the cops will give you the bracelets and haul your sorry ass to jail as you are courageously standing straight up, waving your passport and shouting “You can’t do this to me! I’m an American citizen!/British subject!”

    Gee, how much special treatment do the courts give Chinese offenders in the U.K. and the U.S.A.?

    You want special treatment here? Go down to the foreign ministry and get yourself accredited as a diplomat. Otherwise, just obey the law as you would at home.

    It’s guys like this that give all aliens a bad reputation here.

  46. Most stupid article I have ever read. That dope smuggler was not acting on behalf of the British Government, which should be obvious to everyone. There are a lot of rotten seeds in China these days, rotten minds. Executing a man, be it a drug smuggler, is always a heinous crime against humanity. Thou shalt not kill and all – it’s as simple as that.

  47. Why do the Chinese seem to be completely devoid of sympathy? yes, this guy was an idiot, but nobody deserves to be executed for something like this.

  48. Akmal Shaikh is not British. He is Indian or Middle-Eastern. Sadly, the U.K. has been invaded by Negroes and Indians because of misguided liberalism.

  49. china this china that. this self importance shit is making me crazy. pride always cometh before a fall. and why does china go round pretending everybody has been at war against them etc etc. get over it and move on. chinese people do worse things. in other poeples countries. in their country and to their own people they comitt terrible crimes but of course they are good at hiding stuff very well.before i came to china i had such a good view but since getting here i realise what they actually are and it is pathetic.i am out and i will certainly tell the story.racist bunch of selfish people.

  50. People make mental connections between these events but it’s not always about wounded ego, I think an analogous case is that every time France refuse to support U.S. military action somewhere it’s brought up France got their ass handed to them during WWII and should be eternally grateful to America for defeating the Germans. I’ll bet some dudes in Middle east are thinking man how long are they going to keep bringing that up?
    While they are thinking, they are probably also impressed by thoughtful and considered tactics like dumping wine in the streets, temporarily renaming french fries, narrow minded commentators boycotting French goods etc…

  51. Word.

    Easy to moan about Nanking or the Opium Wars than think about the here and now.

    Maybe the penny will drop one day.

    Come the revoultion, brothers.

  52. Heh, it must be easy to dismiss the conservatives in China as “nationalistic”, “fenqing”, or “50 cent’ers”.

    Sure, the unemployed angry virgin fenqing image may sound fitting for the bitter liberals who missed out on the economic boom, but why the heck would your average successful professional living in the big cities want the clueless laowais to tell them what to do? Then you get the Chinese overseas who can see through the whole deal: the racist foreign neocons/liberals want to change yet another nation so that the liberals can feel a sense of accomplishment and the neocons can benefit from the chaos financially.

    Remember the people who went to the pro-China protests during the Olympics in Europe, the US, Canada, and AU? How do you explain them? Insecure Chinese immigrants who are brainwashed by the Chinese government although many of them are successful 2nd generation immigrants who can’t even understand Chinese? Or sexually repressed loser exchange students who are smart and savvy enough to get into the best universities around the world? How about Chinese people around the world simply sick of what they perceive as a racist holier-than-thou attitude and total hypocrisy when it comes to the way the West deals with China? You can call them nationalists, fenwai, brainwashed, or whatever, but the truth is that more and more people are starting to think this way, for good reasons too.

  53. There is no particular reason for choosing some person in the Middle East, I didn’t want to say a person in U.S. France, or China and landed in Middle East.

  54. Odd you would think that because the British and American government had no problems killing innocent civilians during the Iraq war.

  55. Mock trials? Is that like the one where the Blackwater guys just got acquitted for killing the whole Iraqi village? Now that’s a real outrage because the Iraqis are actually pissed, but oddly enough the non-brown people in the Western worlds don’t really care. To protect their own regardless of justice, that has been the standard policy of the western nations.

    The trial with this drug mule was hardly a mock trial. He was caught was with 4g of heroin which is enough to kill oh, about 20,000 people. The whole argument that he was a mental case didn’t even surface until the very end, and this insane defense has been propagated by all the china-bashers as the truth although NOWHERE could anyone find any truth evidence of him being crazy.

  56. “…it is not British policy or military rules of engagement, as Georges suggested, to capture, beat up, and kill innocent children in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

    Maybe just US policy?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSH040l36aI

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6475572260720170661#

  57. First all, it’s not you who can determine whether others should be affected by something in the past or not. To do so is exactly why others will you arrogant.

    Second, I have no problem with people wanting others to “move on”, but the selective nature of the criticisms telling others to “move on The same people who are telling China to “move on” about its political past clearly have problems telling the likes of Israel and African Americans that they should move on as well. Conversely, they have no problem with telling Tibetans and Uighurs that they should NOT move on.

    Why is this?

  58. Yes putting him in prison would work if the Chinese could extract finance from the other countries (Origin of Akmal Shaikh) to put up the cost. Otherwise it’s just eating the country’s tax payers money.

  59. They understand the actuarial stats: dead before you turn eighteen.

    Man that is depressing.

    as for everything else, heh.

  60. Ah Jones! Isn’t it more a sense of economic, military, moral and political superiority?

    Do forgive the Chinese for running their own country their own way and solving their own problems likewise.

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    Jones says:
    Thursday, January 7, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    He got that right from freedom of speech and information.
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    Arthur Borges in Zhengzhou says:
    Thursday, January 7, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    Ah Jones! Isn’t it more a sense of economic, military, moral and political superiority?

    Do forgive the Chinese for running their own country their own way and solving their own problems likewise.
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    Jones says:
    Thursday, January 7, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Dear Arthur,
    What in the hell are you talking about?
    Thanks,
    Jones

    From your clever comeback, maybe, Mr. Jones?

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