Guangzhou Policewoman Shoots Robber 4x, Netizen Reactions

Guangzhou Chinese robber takes female hostage.

From Tiexue:

July 6, around 8pm at night, a man on Zhannan Road robbing another man met resistance, and fled after stabbing the male victim with the pair of scissors. Afterward, the suspect armed with the scissor held a female victim passing by until 9:30 at night when a plain-clothes policewoman seized an opportunity, fired 4 consecutive shots, and he was shot dead at the scene. The hostage was successfully freed.

Chinese plain-clothes policewoman shoots hostage taker in Guangzhou, China.

Chinese plain-clothes policewoman shoots hostage taker in Guangzhou, China.

Chinese plain-clothes policewoman shoots hostage taker in Guangzhou, China.

A video of what happened:

A news report on YouTube (originally from Youku):

From Tianya:

Firing three more shots, was it to completely finish the robber or for the hostage’s extreme safety?

The story of the brave policewoman was everyone in the media today. I have doubts. What I think is that one shot had already done the job. If it is about being on the safe side, after one shot, wouldn’t she have run forth and kicked away the robber’s weapon? If it really is like this, then she really is a hero: One decisive shot, kicking away the weapon, is brave, saving the hostage itself is of course heroic.

But the policewoman shot once, and then shot another three times. We don’t know what the policewoman was thinking at the time, but according to what she said afterward, “I was afraid the suspect would continue to hurt the hostage, so I stepped forth and shot a few more shots”, then it was for the hostage’s safety, or more precisely, it was for the hostage’s extreme safety. It looks like this is an iron law, that if it is not the robber who dies, then it would be the hostage that dies, so the robber must die, otherwise the hostage will still die. This is very consistent with the way Chinese people think, if it is not one, then it is two.

For example: If someone is not a good guy, then they are a bad guy. Watching television, basically the characters are fixed as good guys and bad guys, the good guys like this and the bad guys the opposites/antithesis. The characters in a film, aside from the good guys and the bad guys, there are no other people. In the end, the bad guys must all die, because if they do not die, everyone would feel indignant after the film ends. So, if the bad guys are not brought to justice and finally decapitated or executed by firing squad, then they get what they had coming, for example, accidentally falling to death or getting hit by a car and the like.

With regards to the problem of there not being any other people besides good guys and bad guys, no one tries to get to the bottom of it because no one feels it is meaningful. Of course, there are even less people who would ask whether the bad guys are able to become good guys. Bad guys becoming good guys itself is not an ideal outcome, something we cannot accept in our hearts. So when watching television series, we still prefer the bad guys to not become good guys, that if in the end the bad guys do not reach the threshold of being given the death penalty by the law, then at least they have to die from some abnormal occurrence. Over time, it becomes that bad guys must die. For example, Wen Qiang, already determined to be one of the bad guys, his death lets everyone feel at ease, even hanging banners and lighting firecrackers, because that is consistent with everyone’s hearts/thinking.

So, for these “are they bad guys or not, should they die or not” things must have support and as long as you can have everyone feel in the bottom of their hearts that he was a bad guy, then that’s enough. The moment everyone believes he is a bad guy, no matter how he dies it is all okay, because a bad guy is someone who does not deserve sympathy, someone who has no value in existing. Getting the masses to believe needs something, and that something is public opinion. Public opinion allows the majority of the people to automatically assume someone as a bad guy, so that everything will be seen as logical and coherent. In China, manufacturing public opinion is a very simple/easy matter, because the mainstream media is all centrally controlled, all living off of the government.

With regards to the calm and resolute firing of three extra shots, I am in objection/dissent/disagreement, which is why I have gone onto the internet to look at netizens’ opinions. Upon seeing them, I have discovered that I am not alone, that there are actually quite a lot of people who share my opinion. Only thing is, this is not the mainstream opinion. According to the theory of good guys and bad guys, the policewoman is the good guy, the robber is the bad guy. The matter is clear, the good guy is the good guy, and cannot have done a good thing yet become a bad guy, as that is something the heavens would not allow.

I don’t blame anything, I only blame that China has too few people, that there are only good guys and bad guys. I hope in the future, there will be people who are neither good guys or bad guys, that there will be bad guys who are good guys most of the time, that there will be good guys who basically always do bad things. This way, there will be a few more categories of people, and when three extra shots are fired, we will be at some loss: Are we sure the person we are killing is a bad guy? Perhaps using this method to view life is not serious enough, and is not appropriate, but at least life will still have some weight.

Comments from Tianya:

117422972:

One shot is not enough to satisfy the public’s anger, only with three more shots can one become a hero.

费正清:

Hostage-takers are utterly evil, and reason demands that they be shot dead.
Hostage-takers are not bad people? Are you the robber’s partner in crime?
The robber did not respect life, and the moment he himself created a situation where it was his life or the hostage’s life, no one is going to protect his bullshit life.

从农奴到将军:

[I've] carefully watched the video. With the first shot, the robber fell backwards and the hostage got away. Had the robber had made a move then there could be more shots first. However, because what he was holding was a pair of scissors and not a gun, the robber isn’t guilty of the most heinous crime. He had no intention of killing the hostage, he only wanted a ticket home [to escape]!

zw3958:

If you want to be commended, it is still better to fire off a few more shots. If [the criminal] is not shot dead on the spot, then the public treasury will be wasted again [on trials].

周丕东:

Reading the comments, I sigh that life truly is no longer worth more than a dog’s fart.

周丕东:

The main problem is that this female police officer was still able to laugh after the incident.

A lack of humanity, a serious lack. No matter what, killing someone, especially if it was the first time killing someone, and then still being able to laugh afterward…

This is China, everything is possible, nothing makes sense.

铲除公社大粪:

Handgun versus scissors, falling over and then firing 3 more shots…

Fascism has returned.

爱情是我的信仰1:

I can’t stay quiet any longer…
LZ, you don’t need to kidnap a hostage, just go to America and brandish a knife running towards the police, and when you come back, I’ll pay for your travel expenses.

ljm554365055:

Who dares to admit that they weren’t pleased watching that killing video? That they weren’t delighted? Very stimulating, very realistic, much more enjoyable than cops and robber films.
That’s why everyone is strongly supporting the police, otherwise the police would hesitate to kill people in the future, and then who will provide us with fun scenes of killing? Stop arguing, go to bed, and wait to watch the next killing show.

terryfht:

I just want to say, if she were self-confident about her marksmanship, then one shot would be enough to disarm the robber’s ability to harm others.
If she were not self-confident about her marksmanship, then every shot of her’s was made under the possibility of harming the hostage.
You can say that any one of China’s police are expert marksmen, but I am not going to believe it.

彤彤红日:

“Fired once, and then fired 3 more times”

This actually is just to put on a show [of authority] for the ordinary common people…

风铃~刀声:

According to common sense, this robber and this policewoman have no grudge against each other, so there is no need to kill. One shot was enough to disable [the robber's] resistance, no need to fire more shots. One possibility could be that it her superiors ordered that the robber be shot dead. Another possibility may be that this policewoman has mental/emotional problems, maybe she was hurt by men before, so she took her grudge out on the robber. Sigh, we can only say this robber was too unlucky.

傲世孤鹰:

Seizing the opportunity to save the hostage is indeed worthy of praise, but consecutively shooting a suspect that has already been shot and has fallen to the ground no longer a threat another three times reveals the inhuman/savage side of this outstanding policewoman!

See also “Police Woman Shoots Hostage Taker” (EastSouthWestNorth) for additional translations, YouTube videos, and translated netizen comments.

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  1. Good shots,bingo, i salute her. that man deserved to be kill, he stabbed the girl’s arm twice. i would love to see more bullets pump in his body.

  2. Well done. This Policeman was just doing his duty, and he has done very well. He deserves our respect and the duly recognition to his work. I would like that police in my country were efficient as Chinese police is.

  3. 这个网站为什么没有屏蔽呢?
    难道是(国)(安)(局)开的?
    呵呵~

  4. cruel shit…what goes aroud comes around

  5. cruel shit…what goes around comes back around

  6. have you guys even watched zombieland? it’s called ‘double tap’. she did the right thing.

    • It’s from the S.A.S

      In hostage situations you make sure you kill the hostage keeper outright, as they may have another weapon/bomb on their person, and they are still a danger to the hostage and yourself.

      There is also Stokholm syndrome to deal with.

      In that case, the hostage may feel sympathy for the hostage keeper, and try to protect them resulting in you, or them, getting killed.

      I’d like to repeat…it’s not from ‘zombie land’

      Not everything comes from American TV.

      S.A.S
      Special Air Service.
      The first special forces unit in the world. Fact.
      Double tap.

      ps. The police lady did a perfect job. Truly perfect. Everyone in China knows how hostage situations go. If you don’t kill the hostage keeper they always always kill the hostage, because they assume the police will absolutely kill them anyway.

  7. China resembles more and more the U.S. Had the robber been black, this could have happened in the streets of New York or Houston. For Christ’s sake sweep in front of your own door !

  8. To make this a simple, 1 shot was enough argument is truly wrong. You can critique her marksmanship, attempt to discredit her for you ideas about being past abused, and you can attempt to blame her superiors, but imagine you are there. Your emotions are high, watching this person. This person has already stabbed 1 man, which shows intent to harm, then proceeded to take a hostage. I imagine the policewoman knew these facts and had to painfully watch him with the 2nd victim. Knowing he was capable of doing even more harm and having the emotions at the time, she did what she thought was best. What if???? she shot him once, then went up to him to further subdue him….. What if???? he then used the scissors to harm her… Would he then also have her gun? There is more than one scenario that could be considered with him harming others or the 2nd victim. I applaud her and do not need to question her actions, she certainly made it clear that what he did was wrong to 2 people. Now there is certainly no way he will harm a 3rd, 4th, 5th or more. Had he not already stabbed 2 people, I would reconsider my stance, but he did stab 2 people. He clearly proved that he was capable of violent actions and he met with force that was deemed to be correct by the only person who could make that decision. Her decision might have been excessive to some, but what about the 2 victims? What about her own safety, the safety of others? If you had been either of these 2 people, would you be happy with the outcome? I think not! If so, you are either a fool or someone who can consider criminal acts to be conscionable. He used deadly force, hopefully others will consider this when they consider a crime. Maybe they will consider not doing the crime….

  9. From the video it seems as though the cop missed the first shot. It would make sense to make a few follow up shots, but having said that, there are indeed better ways to subdue him.

    I guess it is easy to say and judge the cop, considering we’re not the ones being taken hostage.

  10. Professor Sillypants

    Where did, “China has too few people,” come from?

  11. I tend to disagree with your comment that there are only good guys and bad guys on Chinese TV. Really? Which shows have you watched? Sanguo Yanyi? Yongzheng Wangchao? Kangxi Wangchao? Hanwu Dadi? None of these classics have a definitive “good” and “bad”. By saying all Chinese TV has good and bad sides only, you’re really stretching it. Maybe even watch some Chinese movies that you can easily get in the West (that are Chinese themed and not aimed at Westerners)? Such as Hero maybe? Can you tell me who was the good guy and who was the bad guy in a movie like Hero?

    If you compare Chinese movies or dramas with Western ones, you would find that Western ones are a lot more simple in plot and the “good” and “bad” are a lot more pronounced. For example, in a movie such as The Warlords, can you say if the First Brother did the right thing or not? Of course you can’t, there’re arguments for both sides. At one time the film showed him killing prisoners who have just surrendered after successfully besieging a city. Why? Because he cannot afford to post anyone to guard them and feed them for the upcoming siege of Nanking. If he does not take Nanking, then the other warlord will, and the greatest slaughter will ensue in which there will be a lot more people dying than just a few thousand prisoners. Can you tell me whether he was right in killing those prisoners? That he was good? That he was bad? Or that he was doing a little evil to do a greater good? This is Chinese film. Not the “good” vs “bad” that is characterized by Western filsm.

    But for example, in a movie such as The Expendables? Stallone and his team MUST be the good guys, because the enemy are some Latin American dictatorial drug lords high on corporate greed, right? See the contrast?

  12. I feel it’s already amazing that the police officer was able to manage a clean shot in such a stressful situation without taking out the hostage. It’s was extremely risky and apparently successful. In such a situation of course you don’t take any risk and keep shooting to be sure everyone’s safe. What difference does it make if the guy is being shot once or several time in a life threatening situation ? It is damn easy to criticize siting in front your computer but how would you react in front of a rubber ready to kill an innocent ?

  13. If the hostage was your mom, grandma, sister, aunt, friend, etc. 10 shots wouldnt be enough. People that are a menace to the safety of society should be eliminated. PERIOD. grow up and stop whining.

  14. Saddest thing about the video is that the cheerleading reports conclude by saying “after the incident was concluded, normal traffic flow was restored within 5 minutes”

    That’s the priority when you are shot in the face in China. Restoring normal traffic

  15. Like one of the guy before me posted… In US, Try to brandish a switchblade and run towards an Officer, and see how many shots you will get.

  16. ! shot would be fine….!!
    She just enjoys shooting i guess..T,T

  17. In Australia, this policewoman will be charged not for manslaughter, but for murder.

  18. Great Chinese Policewoman!
    Admire her!

    It was a tough decisions… and difficult task… but she made it with perfect TIMING and perfect AIMING…
    Well done….

  19. I was expecting a “YYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!” and then Horatio would take off his sunglasses.

  20. she shoots like a girl too, not setting her feet and bouncing up and down.

    She needs to hold the gun sideways and straight blast the fool.

  21. Your brain jammed after the first character typed, as always

  22. I wonder why ppl are still buying Made in China if they are so bad. Care to explain?

  23. damn!!! alpha quadrant

    you were the 69th comment

    important number!!!

    song of the article

    “way down in the hole” by Tom Waits and the Kronos Quartet

    我爱中国
    我爱地球
    五毛党万岁

    hipshot!

  24. @ aquadraht: so true

  25. What, like this?

  26. yo jones what u need that helmet and goggles for? helmet for the rough butt secs and goggles for the bukkake?? fookin freak!

  27. poor jonesy, looks like there’s lots of noobs that don’t like your jokes :( 加油!

  28. I know you’re not really serious.

    I’m American, from a mixed black/white community. Back when I was growing up, many blacks decided that the white people were “bad”, because “the white man” was just trying to “keep the black man down”. “Down”, meaning “poor”.

    But black people still went to the supermarket and bought Coca Cola, Wonder Bread, Rice Crispies, Charmin bathroom tissue, and thousands of other products that “the white man” produced. Why?

    Suppose what would happen if those racist blacks, the ones who decided that white people were “bad”, killed every white man woman and child in America. That would be their dream come true. What would it do to American society and standard of living? What if Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, George Lucas, and a million other white inventors and entrepreneurs, were killed off back in the 1970s?

    The idiots who think that every Chinese person is “bad”, just because they are associated with the Communist Party of China, (an accident of birth, I must mention), or because they are immersed in the Chinese culture, well, they’re just idiots.

    I like Chinese people. There are some really really good, nice, reasonable people here. Sometimes, I’m surprised that Chinese people can even be cool. Truly, respectfully, freely and honorably cool. Not often. Most of the time, the Chinese people focus on our divisions and like to only compare themselves with me. It’s apparent that they don’t see me as their cousin. Something messed with their heads, because guess what, Chinese cousin, you *are* my cousin, although quite distantly removed. (And so are the darkest people of Africa and India, hee hee hee.) It’s so obvious. I mean where do you think the Chinese people come from? Did they get dropped off from out of the sky by a UFO? Did Mao go back in time and synthesize the Chinese people from his DNA? Where dd THAT DNA come from?

    Racists are just being deliberately ignorant.

    So it’s like this. I like black music. If I go into a club, and pay money to listen to black musicians, I’m doing so fully aware that some of the black employees, or even the club owner, might be racist. They might hate me and wish me dead as I walk in the door, simply for the crime of being white. (And oh, I’ve read those looks on more than a few Chinese faces in this little hick town) But I don’t care. I know that the crowd as a whole are NOT racists. And unless you are going to some really deliberately extreme entertainment event, I can just about guarantee you that the artists – the musicians and vocalists – are NOT racists. Compared to the general population, creative people are almost *always* much less racist.

    So what? Why should I care? Now, if those racist employees decide that they’re going to take the earnings from the club and do bad things with it, then society has a way of dealing with that.

    I’m not too worried about the racist Chinese, because the rest of the world has no use for their ideology of hate. And if those Chinese people can’t spread their ideology of hatred, then what? The ideology is eventually going to get crushed, and all the idiots who supported it are just going to feel like jerks. And if there’s one thing I know about the Chinese people, it’s that they’re very concerned about getting respect. It’s hard to even respect yourself when you find out that what you’ve thrown your heart into turns out to be just crap.

    As long as the racist blacks have an audience of poor and frustrated people stuck in the ghetto, they can talk their shit between them and get respect. But as black people raise themselves up, their shit don’t sound that sweet any more. And today, when you’ve got a black man working as the President of The United States, their racist bullshit smells even worse.

    So, if you’re a Chinese racist, the best thing you can do is keep your people down. Destroy the lives and reputations of men like Kaiser Kuo and Han Han. Make sure that no Chinese ever feels as though he’s “arrived”, and has been accepted by the international community. Make your people feel despair. Make them angry. Provoke envy.

    I don’t recommend you do so, on principle, because I don’t think it’s nice to set traps. But you do understand that this is the logical course of action for ensuring that racist hate does not die.

    Funny how that works out, but the truth will crush ANYTHING it lands on, “cuz”. (“Cuz” – slang word used by niggas in the hood, short for “cousin”)

  29. tl;dr 1234567890

  30. It is hardly mainstream to associate Chinese people with “racism,” I might note. But the Chinese psyche is deeply contemptuous of those that they consider “inferior,” e.g. Filipinos, Indonesians, Indians, Africans, Hispanics and poor white people and jealousy towards those whom they believe to be “superior” (Jews are a notable example where I came from: if you haven’t figured it out already, I am Chinese currently living in the States). It is no coincidence that many overseas Chinese contribute little to charity and social work in their places of residence: first of all they never see themselves as a “native,” and second they look down on most of the people that they interact with on a daily basis. This is a social ill that often leads the Chinese community being scapegoated or ostracized; the fact that the Chinese community is usually more affluent than the local population did not help.

    The racist and isolationist attitudes of the Chinese community did not come from an inborn sense of superiority. I’m certain that it comes from a sense of insecurity: indeed, that is the source of nearly all racism. The country from where they hail does not often cultivate a positive image in people’s minds. Neither does the government that runs the country. It is impossible to argue that media did not often cultivates an anti-Chinese environment. But it is also impossible to argue that the Chinese community did not contribute to the negative attitudes. They never accept those around them, and consequently those around them never accepted their intrusion onto their society. For example, I have rarely experienced racism, and I do my best to be cosmopolitan and I try to accept all cultures equally. The same cannot be said of my parents, and I can’t say for certain that they experience as little racism or prejudice as I do, even if we live in the same all-American, suburban neighborhood.

    Zen Master is right. It is about high time that the Chinese community as a whole abandoned the mental barriers that forces them into psychological ghettos that separates them from the rest of the world. No longer is the Celestial Empire the Center of the world (as the name “China” implys). Only by respecting can one be respected.

  31. “Why the need to claim it’s either places way?” I am talking about tendencies. And of course there are also Taboos, rules and norms in chinese culture.

    The western way of thinking is influenced by many factors, one is christianity. And christianity is a monotheistic religion, which cleary draws a line between good and evil, black and white.
    Chinese religions like buddhism or daoism (I do not count in confucianism or legalism, because they are philosophies and guidelines without a divine force behind) tend more to a holistic way of viewing the world where everything is connected which it other. What is right or wrong is more influenced by the situation or context and less by strict rules who always dominate. That is also a reason why Mao Zedong could came up with his theory of contradictions. A political (sic! – not a philosophical) theory which whould never have been developed and successfull in a western society.

    By the way, I am a Westerner. I am from Austria.

  32. No it’s not, I’m good to 25 yards with any of my handguns. If you are incorrectly referring to a pistol as a revolver, that weapon was a Chinese 25 semi-auto hand gun, and it jammed.

  33. Uhm, China is in 1st place? In what department? Government corruption which the US is clearly in 2nd place. They are not in first place in education or the economy. Stop watching CCTV. Don’t get me wrong, I like China, but your statement is factually incorrect.

  34. Alain, the USA has an excellent road system and infrastructure. We’re not that interested in trains or we would have had them a loooonnng time ago. Go back and continue your gargling of Jone’s balls.

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