Faroe Islands Whaling Photos, Chinese Netizen Reactions

A bloody pilot whale hunt at the Faroe Islands of Denmark.

These images attached to the following post was amongst the most reposted [or “retweeted”] on China’s popular microblogging service Sina Weibo a few days ago…

@可爱宠物中心:

Shocking! Shocking!! At the Faroe Islands in Denmark, young people kill hundreds of Calderon dolphins [pilot whales] as a rite of passage into adulthood. They die surrounded by their own blood, like newborn infants unable to cry. Please everyone repost [forward] this! Spread this information to the whole world, we must not be bystanders!

Young men killing pilot whales, in bloody waters, at the Faroe Islands.

Pilot whale carcasses in the Faroe Islands of Denmark.

Comments from Sina Weibo:

冰山V:

Now these are barbaric people.

空寂廖:

So this is where Chinese people want to head to? And people say foreigners are kind to animals, that’s all bullshit, simply “thinking the moon isn’t round” in our country [self-discrimination, thinking everything is better abroad].

mi小悄悄悄:

Used to believe only Chinese would be like this. Turns out despicable people are everywhere in the world.

钻石花的倦与恋:

Truly fucking inhuman!!!

大男人世界2011:

Rite of passage into adulthood? If you have the balls, go try killing sharks.

PCAKAKENNY:

Go watch The Cove, humans truly are very cruel!

木木MuUa:

#Protect animals# For a rite of passage? Should animals eat humans for fun when weening off their mother’s milk??

笑多了会怀孕:

How is it cruel?

门心马叉虫X: (responding to above)

It’s perverse!

嗡嗡帅: (responding to both above)

What the fuck?

Jacky1202:

What they are killing are pilot whales, a tradition that started as least in the 16th century. The hunt is more to get the food needed to survive the cold winter season (there is only 2% arable land there) and not a rite of passage into adulthood. More information at http://t.cn/GV8TR. Of course, this doesn’t change the bloodiness of the scene.

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  • Just John

    Whale Sofa! Ride the whale!

    • Just John

      At least one guy is actually looking into it more, and not just giving a knee jerk reaction:

      Jacky1202:

      What they are killing are pilot whales, a tradition that started as least in the 16th century. The hunt is more to get the food needed to survive the cold winter season (there is only 2% arable land there) and not a rite of passage into adulthood. More information at http://t.cn/GV8TR. Of course, this doesn’t change the bloodiness of the scene.

      • Young Man

        16th century? This is the twenty-first century. This bollocks is occurring for no other reason than for big-eared fisherman’s sons to get their rocks off.

        Violence for violence’s sake- many mass murderers begin with the torture and killing of animals. It’s psychotic- pure and simple.

        The excusing of it is an excusing of psychotic behaviour. you have issues, son: big issues.

        • Canadian_Skies

          —————
          Isn’t anyone aware this story and photos were worldwide in 2008? Something fishy going on here.
          —————

          • anon

            I see what you did there.

          • Kristine

            Yeah, I was just about to say, these pics are old.

        • Just John

          You know I was just quoting the Jacky1202, right?

          Please address any concerns about his comment to him. My comment was referenced to his comment mostly because at least he thought rationally, instead of knee jerking. I could care less about the actual data he gave, just about the way he actually thought before posting.

          Now go away “son”, you bother me. Or else, I will show you what this cane is really for…

        • Tengu

          Young Man – Total non sequitur, or maybe not, but why “big-eared fisherman’s sons?”

          In Italian slang “orecchione” is a term for gay men; it literally means “big ear.”

        • AshLikeSnow

          If this freaks you out, wait till you see what I eat for dinner every couple weeks.

          We get a live fish, still flopping around. Get a massive butcher knife and WHAM! cut of its head.and sometimes, we boil it alive, just for the fun of it. The fish actually trys to jump out of the water. Its so satisfying.

          • Dane

            Which national stereotype are you?

    • Ray

      Love those “Sofa first, read and reply later comments”

      • Just John

        Shit, your right, I forgot.
        After going through the past posts, I found out I promised someone I would dedicate my first sofa post to them (In the Chinese anti-corruption official stabbed 10 times story).

        So, I dedicate my first sofa to “Society of bad humor”. It was in your honor that I claimed it as mine.

      • Tengu

        He’s very dedicated, first things first!

  • 平凡人

    This is an old piece of news. Looks like the Japs are not the only ones who does whaling. You cannot help it, people do not look at the long term impact. Well, I guess lots of people does not care if some animals become extinct.

    • http://candosino.wordpress.com terroir

      Yes.

      “But these Americans are acting just like us Chinese! We are all barbarians!” – paraphrasing, but this was the quote that I think the owner would like to take back to the Regret store

      • Canadian_Skies

        Considering that Faroe Islands are politically INDEPENDENT of DENMARK, one should hope so.

  • http://candosino.wordpress.com terroir

    As awesome as it is as a source of information, Weibo is also an incredible source of rumor-mongering (to which a group of “rumor-busters” have risen to fight it, actually).

    This whale-culling thing has been going around the nets for at least a year, and has been debunked as a “rite of passage”; it looks like they do a whate hunt, but anyone can participate.

    http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/w/whale-killing-denmark.htm

    I think the recent story of online outrage at a traditional “dog-eating” festival in Jinhua is much more important: as in many other examples of late, the government has acquiesced to popular online Chinese protest and have overturned a decision (Dalian, a court sentencing, the solar power plant) and now this.

    • guizi

      I dont know this dog-eating festival in Jinhua. Chinese people complained about eating dogs? If so, why?

      Human being eat pigs, cows, chicken, fish, dog, whale, and so on. Some people think that dogs are our friends, and others disagree. Whales are same, some think whales are intelligent, so cannot be eaten, others disagree. Cows are gods in India, but not so in many cultures.

      I think this is pretty common cultural clash. Some people never can accept other cultures, and attack them based on their own cultural moral value.

      • Irvin

        Dogs are plentiful, they wouldn’t go extinct because of a few festivals. Whales on the other hand isn’t domesticated.

        • Just John

          Your right, we should base it on plentiful food sources.

          As such, we need to open the doors for rats and roaches, not just dogs and cats.

          So, how do you prefer your rat? Lightly sauteed?
          http://www.thailandqa.com/forum/showthread.php?18883-Rat-Stir-Sauteed-With-Spring-Onion-And-Herbs
          Roaches seem to have a “Popper” quality to them, so would be better for light snacks, with a good crunch to them. Maybe put them in the jalapeno for a jalapeno popper with a crunch.
          http://www.yoursinclair.co.uk/wiki/Main/Cockroach

          • Tengu

            Psssttt…J.J. over here, behind the sofa.

            Any idea what the correlation between extinction and domestication is?

          • Just John

            Yep, we breed them, or we eat them.
            Anyways, I like my daily dose of fossil extract.
            Honestly, as long as they aren’t spotted owls, then they taste yummy fried.

            Spotted owls need tenderized though first by liberally beating it with an environmentalist, then they are tasty, just like chicken.

            Ever watch the faces of death movies? The one with the monkey?

          • Tengu

            Love the “Faces of Death” although my introduciton was a bit abrupt. I came home, my daughter’s boyfriend is on the couch asleep, the TV is on and some poor bastard parachuted into an alligator farm and got torn to pieces.

            We have bumper stickers up here :
            “Piping Plover Tastes Like Chicken”

            They’re the “Spotted Owl” of Mass.

        • guizi

          Japan hunts certain whales which are not endangered.

          • Tengu

            ALL whales are endangered.

          • guizi

            No.

            Now, fishermen are complaining that more and more whales are eating fish, and their catches become small.

          • Tengu

            That’s because we have over-fished the great breeding areas of the ocean and thrown the entire eco-system out of whack.

            Simply because we are now competing with whales for a smaller pool of fish does not mean whales are not endangered..

            The fisherman who are complaining are the same fisherman who have been over-fishing and are responsible for the catastrophe mostly Japanese and Russian factory ships.

            It’s a great argument to use if you’re a proponent of whaling which you seem to be, but the science doesn’t support your allegation.

          • guizi

            Science support my arguments. Japan conducts scientific whaling, and one of its purpose is to estimate the number of whales. And Japan found that the number of Minke whales are growing. That is science, very basic one which is counting and estimating. And of course Japan delivers the reports after that. Perhaps you can find them somewhere. Maybe you know this.

          • Tengu

            Of course Minke Whale population went up, the Japanese hunted them to the brink of extinction, it had no where else to go but UP!

            You’re using a “scientific report” from as “Whaling Country” to support your theory, that’s like taking the ramblings of “Jeff Spicoli” as scientific proof marijuana is good for you.

          • guizi

            Minke whales are and were abundant, yeah, once the number became lower. But still there is enough to hunt. If the number is enough and there is a limit to hunt, there is no reason to ban whaling.

            And only Japan did scientific research. So what did that anti-whaling group do? Throwing acid bottles to Japanese whalers? I really want to know if they did some serious research.

            Oh, dont cite any western newspapers, they are extremely one-sided. I have been reading BBC since 1997, when they write about whaling, they almost always put the picture of dead whale being pulled up onto the whaling ship or like that. It was always grotesque, or made people feel bad. This kind of style just recently stopped. Very funny.

          • Rick in China

            Not all whales are endangered, that’s a very callous statement. It’s too “green-peacy” to be taken seriously.

            It’s one thing to claim overpopulation, it’s another to claim blanket endangerment. Populations of whales, as with many ocean-faring animals, is hard to pin point as they’re a very migratory species in a very hard-to-track environment. That being said, completely banning hunting is too far left – just as letting complete hunting freedom would be too far right. It’s about regulation and education, while maintaining some sort of attempted tracking…..

            An example of this would be how Canada allows bear hunting. It’s restricted to specific regions, during certain times of the year, and restricted based on tickets issued to legitimate hunters with a limited number determined by a government body responsible for maintaining a healthy status quo for each species, and making this information publicly available to attempt to keep them honest.

          • guizi

            > completely banning hunting is too far left – just as letting
            > complete hunting freedom would be too far right.

            Some people see this issue as a left-right argument. But why? Communists think whaling is bad? North Korea is against whaling?
            The idea of left and right is very vague and broad.

            > It’s about regulation and education,

            Always so. But people are stupid, they extincted lots of species, destroyed woods, drive big cars in cities, use pentium4 cpu, have an overweight body, and say save whales.

          • hexie

            Guizi…’Scientific whaling’ are you effing kidding??????????? Are you Japanese by any chance?

          • guizi

            Do you think I am actually a Chinese faking Japanese?
            I am Japanese.

          • donscarletti

            This is what I love about you people, 武士道, running into a crowd you know is going to tear you to pieces, but still go down fighting anyway.

          • Rick in China

            RE: left/right association,

            I see it less as a national alignment from WW2 era, and more of a conservative/liberal ish political alignment of ideologies. Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_politics

            Banning hunting completely would fit into many left-wing stances, whereas freedom to hunt would be seen as a common right-wing stance. This is where the argument came from. Neither is more correct, and a statistic/science based regulation would be the best solution.

          • guizi

            So its about conservative/liberal, and conservatives want liberty and liberals want conservation.

    • http://www.chinasmack.com Fauna

      I already have the comments selected for that story. It was also popular on Weibo, and the photos used were also old news.

      • http://candosino.wordpress.com terroir

        I know we’ve had a glut of dog abuse stories on chinaSMACK and I’m not saying this whale of a tale isn’t important, I’m just saying that the Chinese public outcry from that story was influential enough to actual cancel a govt. approved festival of eating dogs, and likely fuelled the outraged sentiment behind this (old) story.

        Chinese netizens are doing stuff, getting things done, being angry. The kids are alright.

        • hooots

          I agree. There are A LOT of young people in China that think far differently than their parents and are beginning to stick their necks out to make things happen. They are smart, and they want to change things. …at least the ones I know.

          • Irvin

            We should honor traditions and eat more dogs and cats, they’re fucking delicious!

            We should also hunt every animal to extinction (no sarcasm), It’ll be a while before it affects the ecosystem and we wouldn’t feel it in our life time anyway.

            Fuck the next generation! they’ll probably turn out to be spoiled brats if they’re too comfortable. A destroyed ecosystem, now that should keep them busy and productive.

      • hexie

        Hey Irvin, I think Guizi is is in love with you. He read those comments and thought ‘ah, a match made in heaven’.

  • http://chinashmina.com Augis

    Now we need American Netizens reactions to Slaughtering of Dogs in China.
    Ouch… forgot – there are plenty of them on chinaSMACK.

    • CHNinUSA

      come on, relax man, American are not people who are only willing to laugh at others but can’t bare other ppl commenting theirs, right?

      • http://chinashmina.com Augis

        I know. This is what I actually meant.

        That it’s ridiculous to read the comments of Chinese netizens accusing Westerners of being inhumane.

        On the other hand, when it comes to being a human being, it doesn’t really matter if you are American or Chinese. And I don’t believe that any race or nation is more human than another.

        So, for me it’s equally ridiculous to read comments in other posts where Chinese are accused of exactly the same things.

  • mr. weiner

    If it’s traditional then I think the Danes should only be allowed to use oar driven longboats . Also maybe they should wear full viking regalia when they do this[rather than wetsuits]…even so I think some traditions are redundant, we don’t burn witches anymore do we?

    • May

      It’s not a Danish tradition, but a Faroe Island one. Faroe Islanders are no more Danish than Greenlanders or Icelanders.

      • mr. weiner

        If it’s traditional then I think the FAROE ISLANDERS should only be allowed to use oar driven longboats . Also maybe they should wear full viking regalia when they do this[rather than wetsuits]…even so I think some traditions are redundant, we don’t burn witches anymore do we?

        • Tengu

          The FAROE ISLANDERS, who are no more Danish than Greenlanders or Icelanders, have strict regulations about the “drive”/”grindadráp “, but I think we can get the “longboats” and “regalia” in the loop because there seem to be no specific regulations about either the boat OR the raiment allowed for these is thick necked blond lads.

          I shall be called Olaf…bring out the mead, my wicked wenches, a whaling we will go.

          (More research to follow)

          “The whaling regulations specify how the school of whales is to be driven ashore. The drive itself works by surrounding the pilot whales with a wide semicircle of boats. On the whaling-foreman’s signal, stones attached to lines are thrown into the water behind the pilot whales, thus the boats drive the whales towards an authorised beach or fjord, where the whales then beach themselves. It is not permitted to take whales on the ocean-side of the rope. A pilot whale drive is always under supervision of local authorities.”

        • Tengu

          No, we do not burn witches any longer.

          I live very, very close to Salem and with Halloween just around the corner, the whole hanging and burning thingie just might pass locally if you brought it to a vote! You CANNOT move in town for a month, some people I know who have businesses shut down for the month.

          “We didn’t burn him! – Tubbs, “The League of Gentlemen”

    • hooots

      Agreed! Every time I try to secede from the North to protect my states’ rights I only use muskets, moonshine, and the obligatory silly hat. I’m all for using age appropriate supplies for traditional festivals.

      OH, where should we begin?

      • Tengu

        Damn boy, I’m from New England, I think this means we can’t hang together anymore!

        I’ll bring my tr-corner hat, maybe dress like Ben Franklin!

      • Llanero

        I agree.

        In Texas whenever we do reenactments of the Battle of the Alamo, we are careful to only shoot Mexicans in order remain historically accurate.

        • Tengu

          Mr Wales, I admire a man who respects historical continuity.

  • whododat

    Are the fins good as shark fin for soup, can it be used as a cheap substitute that is.

    • Tengu

      Shark is a cartilaginous fish, whale is a mammal with bones!

      Whale a “cheap substitute” for “shark”?????

      Anyone, anyone at all?

    • Matt smith

      It would probably be easier to make money from living whales, if you can find an easy way to make them puke up more ambergris. That stuff is worth more than gold.

  • John Wayne

    WTF?? These people are sick in the head in the pictures. I understand if you are hungry and you must eat. You do what you have to do to survive. But this looks to be more of a sport rather than providing food for the people. If food is an issue, you all can kill the whale much more humanely than torturing it.

    • hooots

      I agree. Killing things for fun is fucked. Yes, we must kill things to eat. But, getting pleasure from the death of something that isn’t threatening you has got to be some sort of psychopathic behavior.

      That being said, I get some sort of sick pleasure when I hear about a bear or something killing the person that was trying to hunt it. Like this recent story: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/17/steve-stevenson-hunter-grizzly-bear_n_967504.html

      Hey Jackass! Don’t walk around in the woods trying to kill things! Especially things that can eat you for breakfast. Reminds me of the Darwin Awards…

      • Tengu

        “Darwin Awards”, the best…you know it was started by a woman? Now that’s my kind of sick girl!

      • Tengu

        Lewis Black said:
        “You shouldn’t be able to hunt anything that can’t bite your feet off!”

      • hexie

        Hoots ” Yes, we must kill things to eat.” Um, no, we don’t have to kill things to eat, that is if your meaning is animals. Theres plenty of veggies and tofu out there.

    • Dane

      I am Danish.

      Did you know that Scandinavians have been thinking about what the most humane way to kill a whale is, for a very long time?

      Did you know that the alternative to this method is “harpoon and drag”? Most people agree that this is generally much slower, much more painful. Less humane. The only upshot is that it agonizes the watching humans less, since it takes place quietly out at sea (rather than attract a horde of mostly-concerned onlookers, as in this photo, generating endless debates each year about how to “do it right”).

      Did you know that the horrible scene you see on the above pictures is regarded by some to be the most humane way to hunt and kill whales? More humane than their deaths in the wild by sharks, and almost certainly more humane than death by the maliciously playful Killer Whale: the evil Danes do their best to kill them instantaneously, unlike the wild predator.

      *
      It’s possible to argue that whales should never, ever be killed. But if you don’t think that pilot whales are above deer, boar, moose, etc – then this is about as humane as it gets. Crazy as that may sound, looking at the scary pictures… hunting is bloody, thrashing stuff.

      • Andeli

        I think the problem here is the killing itself and not the manner in which the killing is done.

        Still this is a native people that conducts melee killing. If the population of these whales is not low or in need of protection I would think the killing of cows, chickens, fish etc. is worse than this.

        • Dane

          So you believe that humans should not kill other animals?

  • DRaY

    If the animal isn’t at risk of going extinct and the meat is being consumed, who gives a shit. There is no humane way to kill something you eat. Kill It, eat it, go to sleep. Think of the billions of chickens that die every month. Do you think they died from old age? This is stupid… I wish I was there to get a Fish Sandwich.

    ……. (i know they are not fish) ……

  • http://www.qq.com/1325279774 Kedafu

    Song of the Article

    Hunter
    -Bjork

    • Hongjian

      One question here:

      Is that you in the pic?

      You do not look like one of those typical bald PEN club dissidents who are looking like some terminal-ill cancer victims to arouse sympathies from hippies and lib-tards.

      That guy kinda looks like that one Kamerad of mine, who nearly stepped on an IED in Afghanistan due to a severe case of autism.

      • hooots

        Hongjian returns!!! It seems you’re just as delightful as ever!
        XOXO

        • http://www.qq.com/1325279774 Kedafu

          Comrade Hongjian!

          you called me out
          been waiting to draw swords and troll with you
          for a long time…..

          One answer here:

          Yes it is me, taken at Beijing MIDI in May this year
          I was in Kabul July 2002 for a while, seriously doubt am your friend’s “comrade”

          run n blog with the PENs, libs, hippies,

          it is 12:15ish am china time
          am off to bed
          going to watch…..

          Star Trek IV Save the Whales

          http://v.ku6.com/show/fRg9gDFDnw3ZbTe8.html

          survived a few IED
          never found the WMD
          get it?
          wumaodang

          deal with you tomorrow
          we are not finished yet…….

        • Tengu

          We’re sending the autistic to Afhanistan?

          “Libtards”, I think “Libetards or “Libtarderal” might have worked better, but to each their own unique swirl of the mighty pen, seems her swirl suffers from the Coriolis Effect as she goes against the current of…well, humanity in general.

          Is she going to shoot us or gas us, you’re probably safe below the Mason Dixon line.

          I saw George Wallace speak in person when he could still stand down in Auburn AL, that should be good for some “Get me to the Deep South!” points, when she comes for us all.

          Bet for the Fake Nipple:
          She wouldn’t pass a rabies or distemper test!

        • http://www.qq.com/1325279774 Kedafu

          Dont give a hoot!

          nap time is over,

          where is Hongbitch?

          Secondary Song of the Article

          The Bad Touch
          -Bloodhound Gang

  • Brett Hunan

    I’ve never tried whale meat… Anyone know where you can get some?

    • mr. weiner

      Japan. I hear you can buy “Whale Bacon” in some shops there.I think you can also get it in Iceland. Apparently it’s nothing wonderful. After all the “scientific testing” done they’ve worked out it taste better without too much wasabi

      • guizi

        I think this scientific whaling was one of the worst decision Japan made.

        Japan should have left the International Whaling Commission as some other countries did. At that time Japan feared an isolation from the world, so there was no choice to scientific-whale within the IWC. But by this, lots of people now say what is that scientific whaling.

        • guizi

          made mistake.
          I think this scientific whaling was one of the worst decision Japan made.

          Japan should have left the International Whaling Commission as some other countries did. At that time Japan feared an isolation from the world, so there was no other choice but to scientific-whale within the IWC. But by this, lots of people now say what is that scientific whaling.

          • Chef Rocco

            guizi, what exactly is that scientific whaling then? We all know Japanese are the master of ambiguity.

            Does “scientific whaling” mean that you kill the whales, study their dead bodies (lethal research), sell the meat to market?

          • Tengu

            Christ-on-a bike*, Rocco, it’s when they wear lab coats, carry clipboards, have charts, graphs and “twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was.”

            It’s all very up and up, scientific and non-biased, they “harvest” the whales for their “scientific research” by propelling a penthrite grenade harpoon with an explosive tip (patented by Svend Foyn) at extremely high velocity into the flesh of he aforementioned cetacean, how can that not be “scientific?”

            *”Christ-on-a bike”
            – mr. weiner
            “Guo Meimei Responds to Red Cross Controversy – Part 2″
            Friday, August 26, 2011 11:16 pm

          • Tengu

            Is there a need for lethal ‘scientific’ whaling?

            No, there is no valid research need for lethal ‘scientific’ whaling programmes. The IWC has, and continues to, condemn these programmes as unnecessary and has called on Japan to desist in 15 separate Resolutions over the last 20 years. The real purpose for such whaling is commercial, not scientific, and the meat from these programmes is sold commercially for human consumption.

          • guizi

            As you can see, Japan should have left the IWC earlier. By remaining in the body, anti-whaling group got a reason to bash Japan, and this works.

            “What is that scientific research thing?” This is a strong statement, and easily can get acceptance from ordinary people.

            I hate this political behaviors.

    • http://www.foarp.blogspot.com FOARP

      Ate some at a Japanese banquet once (organisaed by the company I was working for, no-one said it was whale meat until it was over). Basically it’s blubbery and tastes foul – give it a miss.

      • guizi

        Is that in Japan? They should have said it was whale meat. Some people dont eat certain kind of meat, Muslims dont eat pork, and anti-whaling people dont eat whale meat. Letting people eat something they dont want to is not good although your case was not this one.

    • Kristine

      Yeah, they sell it at the local fish store near my hometown in Norway. I’ve had whale. It’s delicious.

    • Tengu

      Faroe Islands…just a guess…

      • Brett Hunan

        lol thanks Tengu. You always have the most reliable advice.

        I just found out that here in Korea they have a program that will take beached whales which have died of natural causes and divide the meat amongst restaurants and whomever.

        Sounds like a winning ticket.

        • Tengu

          Sorry, you floated that one over the fence like a watermelon…I had to do it, I knew it was wrong, but I kept typing, it’s like I was possessed. “This guy’s never done anything to you….I know, I know but it’s a gimme, he’s a nice guy, I know I know!”….”Post Comment”

          We get beached pods up here one in a while, but Woods Hole Oceanographic is close to where they tend to beach… no kebabs!

          They actually do study them, give them autopsies..could that be considered “scientific whaling?”

  • andywattbulb

    Fucka Yoouuu Dolphin!

    • hooots

      hahaha fucking Dolphins are ALLways starting shit. Where’s my battle axe! Arm yourselves Comrades!

    • Ray

      FUCK YOU COW AND CHICKEN!!!!!

  • Anon

    Build those artificial meat labs, then retain a single or as many old or terminally sick whales for killing yearly to honour traditions.

    We don’t really know if humanity would suffer the same fate under alien invasions, so time to begin scaling back on the last few millenia’s killing based food paradigms for high tech meat.

    As for the killing practice, lots of tech based methods for practice that can be afforded now, there is no longer any need to kill for real when the technology to simulate the same is already there.

    Animatronic arenas of the future will allow man to keep his killer instinct without the spiritual repercussions of actual killing of any animals.

    • hexie

      “then retain a single or as many old or terminally sick whales for killing yearly to honour traditions.” So maybe every year we should kill a sick or elderly war vet for each war anniversary?

      • Tengu

        Gonna make “Cinco de Mayo” a hell of a lot more interesting…Llanero is going to love this.

      • Anon

        A terminally sick or aged whale does not have the option or luxury of euthanasia and it is not impossible to determine if a whale would be happier being put down being so aged or terminally ill. How did you end up factoring a war vet into the example of a far better justified killing? Any terminally ill or aged to the point of quality of life is worse than death being would not find issue with the suggestion.

        • Anon

          ‘is worse’ should read ‘being worse’ . . .

  • Ozeki

    What rights do outsiders have to judge people from different culture that what they’re doing is not acceptable?

    Tradition is part of what defines a culture. Without which life would be just another generic experience.

    Cherish your tradition!

    • mr. weiner

      time too lynch me some non white Americans..Yeeha!
      Also a tradition in some parts I believe.

      • mr. weiner

        [and in the same vein]…..”Darling she’s nearly 12 years old, If we don’t have her circumcised soon nobody will want to marry her.”

        • camlost

          Good point. There’s no difference in killing a human and killing an animal.

          • Marsvin

            Considering humans are animals, that is literally true.

          • guizi

            And China has a big supply of human being.

    • hooots

      Leaving behind fucked up traditions is how you evolve as a culture, as a people, and as a species. Foot bind your gal! Lynch some blacks! Make us some eunuchs! Let’s have a duel! Let’s sacrifice some humans, or just make them our concubines!

      Cherish your tradition!

      • Kong

        You’re right! All “modern” and “evolved” cultures don’t have any more fucked up traditions! Then again, one man’s fucked up is another man’s means of getting laid. Surely there must be an objective means of measuring the level of “fucked up” in a tradition! Surely!

        • hooots

          I never said anything about being “modern.” And, I didn’t say evolved cultures don’t have fucked up traditions. I mean, take Easter for example. What the fuck is Easter? Resurrection? Come on seriously?

          • Tengu

            Easter? Isn’t that when the Groundhog comes out of his burrow, if he sees his shadow, we have another 3,00 years of persecution and oppression, if he doesn’t see his it’s shadow rampant pedophilia begins again in another 3 weeks?

  • PUSAN PLAYA

    The only reason I’ve ever been tempted to visit Japan is to taste whale.

    • Jay K.

      pusan playa is back!!!!!!
      YES!!!!

      and yes I do want to eat whale meat, although there should be some limited catches on whale for species endangered. but seriously fuck off eco terrorists, japan should just sink that ship with their fatty captain

  • Ron

    This happened in 2008. Old news. Dunno what happened after that.

  • eattot

    as a rite of passage into adulthood?
    why not just have sex instead?
    why people stood around not stop them? if i could not help at least i would not stand there watch…

    • hooots

      we should go there and show them what REAL adults do. I’ll buy the tickets.

      • Tengu

        I told you she was a keeper!

        • hooots

          I’m more of a catch and release guy myself but eattot might be my first exception. Might get her mounted.

          • Tengu

            If you don’t have a “mounting”, we will all be very, very disappointed!

    • cb4242

      For once you said something that was seriously worth taking listening to. There is a God!

    • Capt. WED

      whaling whaling amirite? (Probably not)

    • Anon

      Sex with the whales?

      How would you help? Pull a ‘Brevik’ on the happy butchers during their Blood Rite Passage? Or offer them lab grown meat after a bout of butchering animatronic whales at your expense?

      • eattot

        Anon :
        your an idiot!
        do not try to be funny!

        • Anon

          @eatit
          How is that comment idiotic? Have not begun to be funny Ms ‘Red Ocean reply’. Was as much addressing the rest of the board as you alone.

          @Tengu, it was not pages of shifting towards and sex to diffuse violence validates more than the manner, context and syntax your comments gear towards.

          The nuance is not lost on some of us, but prolly escapes you or you would have everyone else have the same escape them.

          • Brett Hunan

            Anon, just sit back and shut up…. You don’t have to be an ass all the time.

            How can anyone use “nuance” and “prolly” in the same sentence.

            Isn’t it funny how we all act smarter than we really are?

            Anyways, take 30 minutes to think of a reply and tear into me big boy!!

          • Tengu

            @ Brett – Whatever translator he uses is hilarious.

            I did enjoy how he maintains his own nuanced comments were not lost on himself i.e. “some of us”. Grandiosity is a wonderful thing to watch from the sidelines.

            …Incoming…..

          • Anon

            How can anyone use “nuance” and “prolly” in the same sentence.

            Is there a rule against that using a creolised hybrid of jive (love Ebonics Campaign has not kicked off yet in the USA), hillbilly, Valley Girl and inner city slang, ” (Quote Idiocracy 2007)

            Now I can mock @Brett for his ‘style of speech, which sounds “pompous and faggy” to the people of the’ present. (Quote Idiocracy 2007)

            Okay now we know who was being an ass all the time, or holds up a mirror as an effective argument. Time to think of a reply depends on mood and exhaustion. Most likely you’d never know how concentration can be affected. To use that fact as a point to argue by is hitting below the belt. Do you feel torn?

            Grandiosity only appears as that to people without a sense of structure for their pride. Whats your ‘better mousetrap’ if not just being on ‘brain off’ mode?

          • Brett Hunan

            Maybe, Anon, you are just too smart for me…. Half the time I have no clue wtf you are writing about.

        • Tengu

          eattot, I hope I will be rewarded in some form for defending your honor in Hoots’ absence!

          • Brett Hunan

            Hoots…. what a flake!

            Good guy and all, but when the going gets tough hes just never around.

            Eattot will see right through the mask

          • Tengu

            It’s the whole moonshine, southern boy, yeehaw, jug band music, Uncle Cletus thing. It makes them unpredictable at times, loyal, but unpredictable.

            Could be the cornbread and collared greens. Those buns with the white sauce for breakfast must take a toll on you after a few years.

            Maybe he thinks the “revenuers” are closing in!

          • hooots

            I’ll have you guys know that I actually had a pleasant conversation with my little Tater Tot last night. She is quite lovely.

            Why waste my breath with Anon or the other guys that get their rocks off by attacking everything she says? I don’t want to flame their sexual suppression. She can handle these fools on her own.

            Tengu, the “buns” are called biscuits and the “white sauce” is actually called gravy. You have Gatorade, we have Gravy. How do you think Alabama won 13 National Championships? Three words: Gravy and more Gravy.

            If you’d like some recipes for Gravy cocktails let me know! :)

          • Tengu

            I knew referring to “Biscuits and Gravy” as “Buns and White sauce” would draw him out…riles them.

            My ex-brother in law was a southerner, pissed him off to no end. When he’d get shit faced he’d start rambling about how we “salted the fields.”

            The worst was when I used to refer to “Grits ” as “Polenta.”

            Alabama!!!!! I hid out in Smith Station and Lochapoka (sp?) down near Aurburn for a summer…long story, great people.

            Glad to hear the “tot” is doing well.

      • 平凡人

        That’s a good one.

      • Tengu

        To paraphrase someone who previously and pompously chided many during the “Curious Incident of the Ficus”, isn’t your comment to our girl eattot with its inference of zoophilia/bestiality “below-waistizing”.

        So let me see if I understand.

        It’s wrong for the guys to indulge in some admittedly puerile and grade school commentary, but it’s okay for you to cross gender lines and inappropriately infer this about eattot.

        Just trying to determine your parameters, evidently they’re fluid and flexible when it comes to your remarks, but rigid and unrelenting when you sit and pass judgement on others.

        All right, all right, now we know!

  • Shoeshine

    Have to agree with 笑多了会怀孕. Just because the vast majority of the world has forgot where meat comes from doesn’t mean this is suddenly cruel.

  • guizi

    Hey, what happened to you all? It seems whole world changed their idea about whaling. When I first connected to the Internet and start discussing on whaling in 1997, almost all foreigners (I mean westerners) were against whaling. Now, lots of them changed their ideas.

    Hey, western people, you are stupid. You know, changing ideas is a clear evidence of stupidity. Well educated people and well thought people win discussions, usually. I am not at all such person. But I won.

    I really dont understand why western people changed their ideas. Maybe their media had problems about whaling, and people were brainwashed by the media.

    • Tengu

      Gooey Zee…changing your mind is a sign of intelligence.

      Some do it when faced with new options, it show fluidity and an ability to alter your views based on either new evidence or changing times.

      To cling to old ways of thought destines you to remain in one spot forever.

      “You know, changing ideas is a clear evidence of stupidity.”…so you’re still riding a bicycle, don’t use a cell phone, still have your old 5″ floppies and are wearing platform shoes.

      Think for a moment of the numerous things you have changed your mind about in the past 5 years, so many you can’t even imagine, people, places, things, food, your cuddly Teddy bear!

      If you are too rigid with ideas you wind up like…well, YOU!

      • guizi

        > changing your mind is a sign of intelligence.

        When the issue is very difficult, yes.
        But when we are talking about one plus one, and you claim the answer is 4 and later changes your idea after hearing from other people’s opinion, even though changing your mind is a sign of intelligence, you are still stupid.

        Whaling issue is like this. I have seen so many stupid things on this in the western media, from western people and so on.

        • Just John

          Actually, 1+1=10.

          And CAB+FAD = 1C58.

          See, how silly do you look now?

          • guizi

            You can count and calculate. You proved it here on chinaSMACK. Isnt it great?

          • Just John

            guizi,

            Winning the internet is like competing in the special olympics, even if you win, you’re still retarded.

            My mom always told me I am special.

          • Tengu

            GooeyZee won the interwebs?

  • dim mak

    Who cares? That’s what all animals look like when you slaughter them for meat. What’s with the Western knee-jerk reaction over whales?

    Neither Denmark or Japan or Norway targets the endangered whales or kills enough to harm their population. I’ve yet to see any scientific evidence saying that a few hundred whales taken per year will even dent minke or pilot whale populations. It’s all speculation (well it might…) or just outright BAAAAWWWW WHALES ARE TOO CUTE TO EAT

    • guizi

      You know, it is so annoying to handle these people saying WAAAAAAA whales are cute, intelligent. Never kill them!!
      And such people are plenty in western world. More annoying is that they behave as if they are moral teachers on Japanese people. I have seen such western people so often. They say Japanese people still dont understand ecology, environment and so on.

      • Anon

        They could hook some whales up to EEGs and thought to language processors. I think we’d be shocked with what a whale can think or would want to do to us.

        • Tengu

          the problems that most have with whaling is we share the same “Class”, i.e. we’re both Mammals and we know they have an intelligence we haven’t really scratched the surface of yet.

          Hard to watch something that could be very advanced in communication and have a high functioning social order being slaughtered for “food.”

          • JSakamoto

            YOu know pigs are also supposedly pretty smart but I guess they’re too ugly to qualify as cute. For all I care as long as they’re not endangered I don’t care if a whale is killed for food or a cow is killed for food, it’s still an animal.

            I hope Japan keeps hunting whales like they usually do each year and sink and kill the Sea Shepherd criminals.

          • Tengu

            Jules: Pigs are filthy animals. I don’t eat filthy animals.

            Vincent: Bacon tastes gooood. Pork chops taste gooood.

            Jules: Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I’d never know ’cause I wouldn’t eat the filthy motherfucker. Pigs sleep and root in shit. That’s a filthy animal. I ain’t eat nothin’ that ain’t got sense enough to disregard its own feces.

            Vincent: How about a dog? Dogs eats its own feces.

            Jules: I don’t eat dog either.

            Vincent: Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal?

            Jules: I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.

            Vincent: Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?

            Jules: Well we’d have to be talkin’ about one charming motherfuckin’ pig. I mean he’d have to be ten times more charmin’ than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I’m sayin’?

          • JSakamoto

            A couple questions: 1) where did you copy that from? 2) what the hell is your point?
            You sound like you’re just rambling with no coherent thought.

          • Tengu

            @ Sucky Mojo:

            “Pulp Fiction

            “You know pigs are also supposedly pretty smart but I guess they’re too ugly to qualify as cute.”

            “Jules: Well we’d have to be talkin’ about one charming motherfuckin’ pig. I mean he’d have to be ten times more charmin’ than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I’m sayin’?”

            Not getting it, as they say when you have to explain it…?

            Enjoy your muktuk!

          • JSakamoto

            And I thought I was wierd. OK my last post to you. I think you’re trying to insult me but your caveman talk isn’t getting through to my civilized mind so I can’t really think of a comeback. Stay sober tonight, eat some hummus and always use protection if you know what i mean.

          • Tengu

            We’re both weird…call it a draw?

            We live to fight another day!

        • Anon

          @Tengu said : ‘Pigs are filthy animals.’

          What you consider filth (soil) is just another medium of living space for another. Think worms and then think roots (another of your favourites what with the brown-ness of the soil), and then think how Pigs dive into the soil for their food. They feel filthy because we think we are clean and are allergic to their habitat, unsuitable for living in the same habitat.

          The farms and high density buildup of faeces do not help either. Faeces (and decaying corpses and mouldering bones of any animals) are what keeps the topsoil rich. Don’t mind the missed replies, but as long as a certain ‘sticking point’ remains hereabouts, the sense of disenfranchisement will continue.

          @(J)(S)akamoto :

          Synchronicity or more shadowing? How many actual individuals are there in this ‘mind hive’? Original is good but some of us live in regions where narrow mindedness necessitates multiple alters which everyone should not get excited into a murderous religious frenzy into. Any excuses if accurate?

          • Tengu

            ‘Pigs are filthy animals.’ is a quote from a movie, not the way I feel.

            “They feel filthy…” little too much anthropomorphism here , how do you know they “feel filthy?” are you the “Pig Whisperer?”

          • Anon

            Nothing much for limited expression animals to whisper about? I’d wait for pigs to grow opposable thumbs and fingers, discover fire first before bothering about ‘pig whispering’.

            Anthropomorphism exercises empathy (6th sense), and closes man’s distance from anything that does not interact with us via the 5 senses.

    • JSakamoto

      Yes you are absolutely right. I can’t stand when people say that the whales being hunted are endangered. Over 80% of the whales Japan hunts are Minke whales which are not endangered or even threatened yet the average person opposed to whaling thinks that hunting a few whales will decimate the ecosystem. Another example of the west villifying people that don’t conform to their standards.

  • aki

    and that’s why the danish are the happiest people on earth.

  • Canadian_Skies

    “”” 这就是中国人向往的地方?还说什么外国人善待动物,都是扯淡,就是嫌国内的月亮不圆 So this is where Chinese people want to head to? And people say foreigners are kind to animals, that’s all bullshit, simply “thinking the moon isn’t round” in our country [self-discrimination, thinking everything is better abroad]. “””

    Yeah, right! Categorize all “over the wall” societies by the worst features of any. Coward.

  • Misia

    http://youtu.be/XEggWOdjVRE

    Funny how those who condone hunting always happen to have the role of aggressors.

  • MrT.

    Well they seem to be “having a whale of a time”.

  • JSakamoto

    Where are the producers of “The Cove” when you need them. Typical hypocrisy from western media. All the attention goes to the Japanese whalers but what about this spectacle. ALso Norway and Iceland kills whales too. The western media needs to portray the whalers in as bad a light as possible. Having the whalers come from a different race and culture as your target audience is a good way to assure that.

    • Chad

      It’s called white privilege. Deal with it.

      • Misia

        “Deal with it”. Wow man, I’m impressed. It takes so much balls to act all tough, indifferent, to condone injustice of all kinds while safely sitting in your room, hiding behind a screen. You truly are a noble, brave man.

        • Xiongmao

          He is trolling you. Damn, sometimes I really wish people were more used to irony, sarcasm and trolling. Especially the Chinese. Even when Han Han wrote his masterpiece on the Lesser Corrupt Official, WAY too few Chinese got it.

          • Chad

            Someone gets it!

      • JSakamoto

        I am japanese, i don’t have to deal with anything. We saved Asia from the western imperialists long ago so my ancestors were heros. I bet you don’t like that right? Here’s hoping for another 9/11 with you and your family getting killed by Al Qaeda operatives.

        • Tengu

          “Here’s hoping for another 9/11 with you and your family getting killed by Al Qaeda operatives.”

          You know everyone busts everyone else’s balls out here, it’s no big deal, we all expect it and, often deserve it, I’ll admit to that as quickly as anyone. I deserve to be slapped many times.

          And in spite of our previous rows, I was actually warming up to you, you know how it is out here, sometimes you get in the ring, shake it off after, nurse your bruises and have a beer.

          BUT

          With this last post, you showed what a piece of shit you are.

          What’s your kamon, two dicks laid over your cross-eyed great-grandmothers forehead?

          • JSakamoto

            You were beginning to warm up to me? You act like I really give a shit what you think about me. Kamon? Where do you come up with this shit? I know that probably your kamon is what you mentioned, but just because you’re insecure don’t need to push your insecurities onto me.

            I think you’re a little bitch boy who needs to get laid in the worst way. I can feel the stress and anger building up inside you. GO visit a prostitute if need be and stop spending all your time on Chinasmack.

          • Tengu

            Angry tiny-dicked prick aren’t you?

            See, “you showed what a piece of shit you are”, just as I stated.

            “stop spending all your time on Chinasmack.” – you seem to post a lot.

            “little bitch boy” – sounds like you’re a “bottom”, not that there’s anything wrong with that, you like to bite the pillow while you get boned in the ass, go for it, no one will judge you for that.

            Stay angry, it’ll be good for you, keep that rage, fire that hate, it’s good to be like that.

          • Tengu

            “Here’s hoping for another 9/11 with you and your family getting killed by Al Qaeda operatives.”

            That’s the equivalent of someone wishing another Hiroshima or Nagasaki on your people. A statement like that is beneath most sane people.

            You on the other hand….not so sane and you escalate easily, you’re fun!

          • JSakamoto

            Like I said you need to get laid badly. Look at all the thought you put into your comeback to me, now you tell me who the angry one is. If I can mess with your emotions this easily on the internet i can’t imagine what you are like in real life. I done with you boy.

          • Tengu

            Tiny Dick, like I said, you’re very funny!

          • Misia

            “That’s the equivalent of someone wishing another Hiroshima or Nagasaki on your people”

            No, it’s not. Two skyscrapers falling down* does not equal the destruction caused by an atomic bomb. What Japan did to the U.S. and / or other countries prior to Hiroshima does not equal everything the U.S. did to the rest of the world. If a guy lends me 100 bucks, justice is giving him 100 bucks back. Not 80 or 90, that would be unjust. 100 is just. My country’s government and Mr. Gaddafi signed a bilateral pact giving Gaddafi permission to open fire on Lybian migrants in the midst of the sea, so if tomorrow a Lybian guy comes over and points a gun at me I’ll be well aware there’s nothing wrong with that. If I thought otherwise that’d be unfair.

            *due to an inside job by the way, as openly admitted by former president of the Italian republic and, most importantly, Gladio member Francesco Cossiga. Please search up “operation Gladio” and see yourselves why this is what you’d call a smoking gun.

          • Dane

            @Misia: what a pleasantly thoughtful reply. May I ask, what is your background, and are others with similar ones as thoughtful as yourself?

          • Tengu

            @ Misia – Actually it was three skyscrapers that fell down, you are forgetting Number 7.

            And you misinterpreted, my comment was simply a response to the ridiculous and heartless:
            “Here’s hoping for another 9/11 with you and your family getting killed by Al Qaeda operatives.”

            DO YOU DISAGREE THE PREVIOUS WAS A HEARTLESS STATEMENT?

            BOTH of them are ridiculous statements, I was merely comparing. No one should ever wish a past atrocity to be revisited on any people, regardless of scale.

            What would you say if someone wished Mussolini started hanging people from the rafters of the subway stations? How about wishing Pol Pot would come back and begin cleansing Cambodia again?

            For all examples above numbers are irrelevant. You have omitted the most important part of the equation…emotional impact on the civilians.

            Secondly, do not even begin to lecture me about US involvement in other countries. The US has been playing both ends against the middle for so many years it has finally come back to haunt us.

            Iran, Iraq, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, Panama, Chile (now I will add “Italy” due to “Gladio”, thanks for that)…to name a few. I am fully aware of toll our atrocities, assassinations and massive aggression has taken on the world. The worst are yet to be known. May never be known.

            Why is Iran totally out of their minds with the US? They see the invasion of Afghanistan and Iran for what it is, the US march to the Caspian Oil fields….they’re in the middle, classic military move “Encirclement”, Alexander the Great used it.

            We’ll use Israel as a proxy to take out Iran.

            What do you think the chances of the US Government NOT having complicity in the assassinations of our own, JFK, RFK, MLK or William Colby, former Director of the CIA.

            Look up “Smedley Butler” and the “Business Plot”, see if one familiar family name comes up, reflect on 09/11 and get back to me!

            Do I think Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush are war criminals? Yes? Rumsfeld is wanted in Germany.

            Do I believe the real story of what happened to the World Trade Center is known….no! The Bush family had a very close relationship with the bin Laden family, so does the “Carlisle Group.”

            One would assume you are not aware that on September 11, 1973, gunships (backed by the CIA) literally blew apart the offices of the new Democratically elected Chilean president, Allende.

            We put Pinochet in power because we feared a government with a Marxist lean.

            So for the Chileans..,September 11th has an entirely different meaning.

            Is our government corrupt…all governments are corrupt.

            Has the US done more harm than good?

            History will be the one to answer that, I would hope it falls on the “good” side, but to be quite honest Misia, I’m not sure.

          • Misia

            @Tengu:

            “DO YOU DISAGREE THE PREVIOUS WAS A HEARTLESS STATEMENT?”

            Have you read, like, 95% of the other comments here, starting from the very first one?

            “No one should ever wish a past atrocity to be revisited on any people, regardless of scale”

            “People”? That must be a typo, right?

            “What would you say if someone wished Mussolini started hanging people from the rafters of the subway stations?”

            Don’t know enough about Pol Pot / Cambodia to speak, but I would say that Mussolini – just like #1816 member of masonic lodge P2, that is Mr. Silvio Berlusconi – didn’t get where he got without people supporting him. People admiring strenght, firmness, displays of power, intensity and all this predatorial, worthless trash. So I think I would spare my tears for the loss of more harmless, peaceful beings.

            “You have omitted the most important part of the equation…emotional impact on the civilians”

            May I ask which emotions you think whales feel while getting slaughtered like that?

          • Tengu

            @ Misia
            Skitt’s Law:
            “Expressed as “any post correcting an error in another post will contain at least one error itself” or “the likelihood of an error in a post is directly proportional to the embarrassment it will cause the poster.”

            We were ONLY talking about the comment – “Here’s hoping for another 9/11 with you and your family getting killed by Al Qaeda operatives.” and my response to it.

            We were off the “whale issue ” and onto an “post by an asshole troll” issue, but you don’t seem to grasp this very fundamental fact.

            Yes, I have read all the posts, I think a simple review from the top down will show that, you could even cross reference by date if you wish.

            “People” – no typo, English is my first language, correct usage in this context. (See: Skitt’s Law).

            I will eschew correcting your syntax, lack of lucidity, spelling, rambling and punctuation. I never find if helpful, less so in certain circumstances, this is one.

            You don’t get the point I was making with regard to that single statement, no problem, not your fault!

            “May I ask which emotions you think whales feel while getting slaughtered like that?”

            We really have no real idea what the breadth of their consciousness is, hence the outrage on this topic, but clearly they are sentient beings since they have been recorded while being pursued by Killer Whales, or being killed by Whaling Ships and they do “suffer”, they do cry out in pain, they do mourn the loss of a calf to a pod of Killer Whales or a mother to a harpoon.

            Be good!

          • Misia

            Ok Tengu, let me sum it up for you: there’s an article about animal violence in northern Europe, an article full of very insensitive comments. Animal violence makes every single days more victims than 9/11 did, it’s a daily holocaust of countless species yet somehow this doesn’t offend you as much as a 9/11 comment. Now, the author of the aforesaid 9/11 comment is Japanese, the United States of America just happen to have killed way more people (also) in Japan than they lost in New York, yet you still seem to worry more about New Yorkers. On a general level, no animal specie on Earth has ever caused half the death and destruction we humans have. On a human level, no other nation has ever acted like the world is theirs the way America has. And now you come here ignoring other countries / species’ objectively greater wounds – far greater wounds, talking like humans are the victim, talking like Americans are the victim. And on top of it all, calling other people “heartless”. Sorry man, but cry me a river.

          • Tengu

            @ MiserableOne – Do you actually read anything anyone says to you, or do you simply skim and spew out incoherent ramblings you seem to think contain continuity.

            Christ, you’re dense….

          • Misia

            Yes I do. Please either elaborate what I’m missing here or else post a pertinent reply, juvenile puns won’t cut it.

          • Just John

            “On a human level, no other nation has ever acted like the world is theirs the way America has.”

            Apparently you missed colonial times with the UK, Portugal, and Spain, and France. Guess you missed the rise and fall of the Roman Empire. The Qing Dynasty. German invasion of Europe. Japanese invasion of China, Korea, Taiwan, etc. Want me to keep going on with expansionist nations?

            Don’t think the US is yet on quite the same level… (Not talking about the US dabbling in world governments, I am talking about land the US directly controls)

            Now go back and study your history Misia, while I go out and harpoon some whales.

          • guizi

            Never forget the massacres by the Roman Empire!!

            They are all history now. How big or atrocious they are, it does not mean anything to modern world and people. The point is our world and people living now.

            And the nearer to now, the more important. If some country still commits an same level atrocity as before, dont compare the level to the past. Our current world is important.

            OK, I know there will be someone who say that Japan wants to make the past things as history and forget. Please read my comment again, I say modern, so I mean maybe the past 100 years, before that they are history.

          • Tengu

            @J.J. – I tried to narrow it down to a single country because she seemed to get baffled by the fact I was simply commenting on a single asinine statement by SuckMyMojo.

            She’s unaware of Pol Pot, answered the Mussolini question in such an obtuse manner I’d need to hire a cryptographer to decipher it, yet she clings to the belief her circuitous thought process is like a well designed architectural plan.

            Good luck with the world history Bud…she’s dense (puerile comment intended!)

            @ MiserableOne:
            “…so if tomorrow a Lybian guy comes over and points a gun at me I’ll be well aware there’s nothing wrong with that.”

            S/B

            “…so if tomorrow a Libyan guy comes over and points a gun at me I’ll be well aware there’s nothing wrong with that.”

            Sorry you took issue with my use of “people”, I thought you should learn how to spell “Libyan”. No need to thank me, all in a days work.

            BTW – Very magnanimous of you; evidently you’ve never had a gun pointed at you, otherwise you would understand what a ridiculous comment that is. First time, I almost shit and I expected it!

            With regard to the “…I’ll be well aware there’s nothing wrong with that.” I will quote someone in this thread:
            “It takes so much balls to act all tough…while safely sitting in your room, hiding behind a screen.”

            I could rewrite the sentence for you so it was grammatically correct, but you’re tedious and so very dense! No disrespect!

          • Just John

            No worries, I will be off harpooning baby whales and clubbing baby seals so I can have my whale skin tires and seal skin hubcaps to go with it. I figure while I am busy committing atrocities against the animal kingdom, that will give Misia plenty of time to brush up on history.

            Want to chow down on some of this dog roast with me while we genuflect about the current happenings in the middle east and random people pointing guns at me in an OK manner? After all, all is fair in love and war.

          • Tengu

            Have the haunches done with Brett’s famous “Spicy Hunan Spaniel Stir Fry” recipe…so delicious in the fall.

            We need to talk about the Business plan for the “Feed Us Fetus” chain. Call Hooots, I want eattot to be the hostess…seriously, who better and the mask fits in, we can do a “Medical Motif”, hand out blue Nitrile gloves when they are seated. Good work gloves, I have a case in Med, I highly recommend them, flexible, good grip, disposable. I have some articulating kangaroo skin gloves I use for the winter, but I digress.

          • Brett Hunan

            Tengu that quote is bullshit. You know, I was the one he wrote it about. I wasn’t even acting tough…. or was I?

            I’m still hiding behind the screen though.

            I think its useless to argue with M. S/he hasn’t really replied to anything you wrote and you cant persuade an unreasonable person.

            The recipe is a real winner and I think can be used for your fetus restaurant too. I have some experience managing exotic restaurants, let me know.

            JJ, what an a-s-s-h-o-l-e.

            “You know what I’m gonna do? I’m gonna get myself a 1967 Cadillac Eldorado convertible, hot pink, with whale skin hubcaps and all leather cow interior and big brown baby seal eyes for headlights. Yeah! And I’m gonna drive around in that baby at 115 miles an hour, getting 1 mile per gallon, sucking down quarter pounder cheeseburgers from McDonald’s in the old-fashioned non- biodegradable Styrofoam containers! And when I’m done suckin’ down those grease ball burgers I’m gonna wipe my mouth on the American flag and then toss the Styrofoam containers right out the side, and there ain’t a God-damned thing anybody can do about it. You know why? Because we got the bombs, that’s why!”

          • Just John

            Brett, you read my mind with that post. Love that song.

          • Misia

            First of all I’m a guy, second of all:

            “evidently you’ve never had a gun pointed at you, otherwise you would understand what a ridiculous comment that is.”

            Except it already happened. Twice. Third and last time it wasn’t actually a gun, it was just a 40 centimetres machete pointed at my stomach by this drunk African guy right in front of this squatted building occupied by 20-something homeless Africans in the Isola area of Milan. Did a quick sidestep, guy kicked me down then I got back up and ran away. Some hyperhormonized, emotional friends then told me to call the police but I didn’t want 20 innocent people to pay for the aggressive drunkenness of 1. Being scared is primitive, being self-centred, caring about our own single life as if it mattered more than other people’s lives is primitive too. It’s 2011, not everyone’s a caveman. Regards.

          • Tengu

            @ J.J. & Brett – Great song.

            Argues like a bitch so not sure it’s “He”, but I digress.

            Here’s my line up for “Feed Us Fetus”.

            Tengu, J.J. – Principal Shareholders.
            Hooots – Maitre d’ and Rambunctious Redneck.
            Brett – Chief Menu and Spiritual Advisor.
            Terroir – V.P Digital Media Presentations and Figlet Supreme.
            eattot – Hostess.
            Chef Rocco – Obvious.
            Hongjian – Security Chief.
            Kedafu – Resident DJ.
            King Tubby – Official Greeter ( He IS a king!)
            Rick in China – General Manager and Coordinator of Reality Checks
            mr. weiner – Chief of Australian Franchising and Aussie Verbiage.
            anon – Head of Obfuscation, Ambiguity and Random URL Generator.

          • Brett Hunan

            Tengu, if I recall correctly, that’s the second time you were called a caveman by the same number of people. IF the rumors are true… you could get me a deal on a new Geico policy, right?

            M.- give it up toots. You’ve had 2 guns and a machete up in yo face??? Are you in MS13? Are you in a war with the LK? Or do you have terrible luck? Its so coincidental that Tengu calls you out, but you turn out to be the only person (probably) who has ever visited chinaSMACK who has had a gun in his grill and you have had it happen twice, plus a MACHETE!!?? Goodness gracious lets go in on a lottery pool together. I wouldn’t mind you sharing some of yo luck gangsta!

          • Tengu

            @ Brett…I’ll send the lizard over. He’ll take care of you.

            With regard to “caveman”, I’ll see others in my future..I HOPE.

            I wish he/she were more creative, “caveman” is so generic.

            If he/she had referred to me as “Australopithecine” I would have gladly taken the standing 8 count, how jejune and uninteresting…”caveman”

            Ironically, I’m like a Mexican Hairless, at least I don’t freak them out by looking like I’m wearing a sweater.

            Hows’ the menu coming along?

          • Misia

            @ Brett

            “You’ve had 2 guns and a machete up in yo face??? Are you in MS13? Are you in a war with the LK? Or do you have terrible luck?”

            ???

            I’m from Milan, and I don’t think I’m talking hesoteric here: I know plenty of people who already had such encounters, all it takes is, you know, some social life, going out, this kind of things. My sister’s ex boyfriend is from Naples, his family’s quite wealthy, they live in a pretty bourgeois area (Vomero), he’s just 18 and looks as nerdy as nerdy gets. And still every time I see him he always comes up with stories like that, taking about guns and knives but never emphatically, always in a totally matter-of-fact kind of way, like “oh, yesterday night I went here and there, met him and here, music was shitty, nice ambience though”. Now, Milan is most definitely no Naples, but still: such things happen.
            Here in Marseille I know this girl from Rio De Janeiro and since I’ve never been to South America one day I asked her how does it feel to live in the middle of this sort of war between Bope and those gangs they have there. Her answer (which for personal reasons I could definitely relate to) was something along the lines of “we just know there’s pretty good chances we’ll die from a bullet… that’s it: it’s our environment, it’s our destiny, we’re ready”.

          • Tengu

            @ Brett…since “Misery” loves company, let’s let it die a lonely death and go badger Guo Meimei.

            Just John gets wood when she tears up…that sick bastard.

            What do you think about eattot as Hostess, I think it’s a great choice, who better, customers they’ll be so unnerved by the time they’re seated they’ll pay anything we want!

            The great part is, she can wear her mask, it’ll fit in with the medical motif and the funny thing is we may go years without ever knowing what she actually looks like.

            @ Misia, Ciao, ciao. Morto un papa, se ne fa un altro…

        • Chef Rocco

          “We saved Asia from the western imperialists long ago so my ancestors were heros.”

          Did you learn this from your high school textbook? Quite interesting view.

          • guizi

            No.
            Japanese textbook are written by university professors and highschool teachers, and published by private companies. Teachers are famous for having left-sided views. and many of those private publishing companies have the same tendencies too. So they tend to have an opposite view.

            This is one reason why there was that right-sided view textbook issue. Some people though this is enough, and started to write their own textbook.

          • Tengu

            So you guys are writing your own textbooks?

            SuckMyMojo’s (AKA “Hero Boy'” treatise on his family saving Asia from Western Imperialism must be a real potboiler.

          • guizi

            Yup.

            You can write if you like. But there is some regulations, you have to write certain things in it, have to be neutral though this is difficult. So If Chinese people dont like Japanese textbook and bring their own history textbook to Japan, it is not easy to get approved. Rather Chinese mainland textbook is simply a propaganda, such textbook cannot be approved.

            Anyway I think there are English and Chinese translation of all high school history textbooks online. I have seen them. Try find and read them.

            I think they are rather boring. I think they are trying to be neutral and therefore they have very small number of adjectives, so the text becomes like a report or something not a lively story. When I read Chinese history books, I found lots of adjectives, and thought they are easy to read and lively. Though I dont like their way of praising Communist party in it.

          • guizi

            Sorry found mistakes. I rewrote it a bit.

            Yup.

            You can write if you like. But there is some regulations, you have to write certain things in it, have to be neutral though this is difficult. So If Chinese people dont like Japanese textbook, chinese people can bring their own history textbook to Japan, though I think such textbook full of propaganda cannot be approved.

            Anyway I think there are English and Chinese translation of all high school history textbooks online. I have seen them. Try find and read them.

            I think they are rather boring. I think they are trying to be neutral and therefore they have very small number of adjectives, so the text becomes like a report or something not a lively story. When I read Chinese history books, I found lots of adjectives, and thought they are easy to read and lively. Though I dont like their way of praising Communist party in it.

    • donscarletti

      Lets put this into perspective.

      This is to Danish as if a bunch of Ainu in some village in Hokkaido paddled out and killed some whales would be to you.

      This is to most other westerners as if a bunch of Cambodians paddled out to get some whales would be to you.

      But Kudos for pissing so many people here off, always adds fun to a thread.

  • mp

    In Florida, Shamu recently took out his trainer. And up north, each year a few bears always run the hoodoo down on innocent hikers. Live and let live, I say. Or the other way around. It’s all the same in the end.

    • Misia

      Yeah, ’cause Shamu and a few bears up north totally even things up. Great sense of justice dude.

      • mr. weiner

        I hear bear bacon tastes great

        • Tengu

          Who doesn’t like bacon…any bacon?

          • hooots

            After telling me her favorite restaurant was Pizza Hut, a beautiful young lady asked me a question… “What is bacon?”

            Yes, we made out.

          • Tengu

            My girl in Wuhan told me proudly:
            “You have to try Pizza Hut pizza here, much better than in the US!”

            “That’s a very low bar to top. I won’t go near a Pizza Hut in the US!”

            We go, cloth napkins, table service, hostess, waitress, BEER!

            Pizza Hut pizza in China IS much better than in the US!

            Starbucks too, they add sugar to the soy milk in the US, not in China.

            McDonalds and Burger King frighten me in the US… “ground meat” in China!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Although if the start serving “Rectally Inflated Squirming Hedgehog” I may reconsider.

          • mr. weiner

            i just love the idea of bacon that could f*cking kill you if your aim was off, bear bacon….mmmm, I hear they even call female bears “sows” [Is a male bear a boar? ] Maybe we could make bacon out of south africaans, many of them are boers.

          • Tengu

            You know it is a “boar!”

            I think Afrikaners may be tastier…

  • chaukar

    Where the hell is sea shepherd this time? Oh wait…its their own people doing this.

    • Jay

      What do you mean by “own people”? You mean white? Or European?

      • Brett Hunan

        Jay- I think he means that the Sea Shepherd crew only goes after the Japanese when they (the Japanese) hunt whales. They are not going after the “white” Europeans.

        Chaukar- My guess is that it makes for less exciting tv. You don’t really think all of those people would be fighting off the Japanese ships unless they had it documented for profit or fame, do you? The Faroe Islanders would probably fight back much harder than with water canons too!

        • Xiongmao

          What?? Do your research before you post shit. Greenpeace and all the other environmental factions have been all over this stuff for decades and they’ve sent ships to the places where this happen plenty of times.

          • Brett Hunan

            Bearcat,
            I’m guessing you are talking about my comment to Chauker…?

            1986: The S.S. claims responsibility for the sinking of two Icelandic vessels and damage performed against an Icelandic whaling station.

            Check that out, Chauker was wrong.

            I will pose my question again: “You don’t really think all of those people would be fighting off the Japanese ships unless they had it documented for profit or fame, do you?”- Notice I was talking about S.S. and not Greenpeace. Please, little panda, do a little research yourself to see about all the lies that Paul Watson has made just to raise more funds and gain publicity.

    • Dane

      Wrong, chaukar.

      http://www.earthtimes.org/conservation/sea-shepherd-fights-slaughter-pilot-whales-faroe-islands/720/

      Here’s a question, chaukar: why did you not google for 10 seconds before you posted? Is it perhaps that you WANT to find white racism, even when it isn’t there? Does that make you a bit racist?

  • http://unblockfacebookinchina.info/vpn-in-china Rod

    Crazy, i though the Japanese were the only ones doing this.

  • Johnston

    Faroe Islands is not part of Denmark. They are completely self governed with their own laws. They are though part of a Danish commonwealth style system that includes Greenland too.
    These whale killings are despised in Denmark and would never be allowed there. They only take place on Faroe Islands, despite thousands of protests every years.

  • Allan Højgaard

    Hello everyone.

    I just thought I should chime in and bring some enlightenment with me as a am Faroese. The pictures you are seeing is from a “grindadráp” and takes place whenever a pod of pilot whales is spotted by an individual and driven into a fjord where they are dragged on to a beach and quickly killed.

    Grindadráp has taken place at least since 1584 and has been part of Faroese culture ever since. The original poster of this news article claims that it is a rite of passage into adulthood which I find hilarious since that means I am not an adult man (I am 32 years old) because I have never been in nor seen a grindadráp with my own eyes.

    The customs about how to run a proper grindadráp used to be more cruel, but after the latest regulations made in are much more humane now. For example: Men in the boats would use spears and harpons to drive the whale onto the beach. This is strictly forbidden now. Furthermore, causing any animal unnecessary or excessive pain and discomfort is prohibited by the Faroese law.

    As for the shocking images I agree. They are shocking for the simple reason that the blood of the whales is spilled into the ocean which makes it look much more terrible than it really is. If you were to go into a pig/cow slaughter house you would see the same. Out of sight, out of mind as the saying goes. Whale meat tastes good with some mustard in case anyone is wondering.

    I do support the killing of whales as long as:

    1. It doesn’t impact the whale population (which it currently doesn’t according to the American Cetacean Society and the North Atlantic Marine Mammal Commission).
    2. The killing is done as quickly as possible (The length it takes for a whale to die varies between a few seconds to a few minutes, with the average time being 30 seconds.)
    3. The whale meat/blubber is safe to eat.
    4. It is not done for sport (which it isn’t)
    5. It is not done commercially (which it isn’t)

    This website offers more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whaling_in_the_Faroe_Islands

    • guizi

      It seems Faroe Islanders are real, not an imaginary things.

      About your five reasons to support whaling, I want to say about number 3 and 5.
      3. The whale meat/blubber is safe to eat.
      5. It is not done commercially (which it isn’t)

      About 3, I think you are talking about mercury. I think you rather get angry about this. You should blame polluters for polluting our precious sea. I think Faroe islanders dont pollute the sea much, but Anti-whaling groups use mercury for the reason not to eat whale. Its ridiculous, why Faroe islanders go into bad situation from pollution which came from outside? And those anti-whaling group never think of you Faroe islander as victims of pollution, but give you more damages.
      This is very strange. They never blame polluters but blame whalers. And whenever I say about this, everyone say its first to think like that.

      About 5, there is nothing wrong with commercial. I never heard of someone complaining about commercial pig farm, or fishermen fishing in the sea.

      • Tengu

        “It seems Faroe Islanders are real, not an imaginary things.”

        Did you think they were like Unicorns?

        • Brett Hunan

          Wait… what you’re really saying is…… NO….

        • guizi

          Are you real, Tengu?

          • Tengu

            Depending on where we are in the time space continuum…so…Yes, Possibly, Maybe Not, No

            Or

            E) All of the above.

    • Jay

      These are no excuses. This is completely barbaric. Completely unnecessary. What a blow to Denmark’s image.

      • Dane

        Which method of whale hunting do you think is better, Jay?

  • shade

    Brutal, totally embarrassing for that country! Japan is worse though.

  • Jay

    Beyond disgusting. I didn’t know any Danes were so barbaric. This completely changes my image of Denmark.

    • Dane

      Can you think of a better way to kill them?

    • Xiongmao

      The Faroe Islands is more like an overseas territory than an actual part of Denmark and is located somewhere between Iceland and Northern Scotland. I can assure you that most “mainland” Danes object strongly to the way this goes on.

      • Dane

        I think you’re wrong about that.

        “80 procent of Danes support traditional whale hunting in Greenland.”
        http://politiken.dk/indland/ECE279336/danskere-stoetter-groenlands-hvalfangst/

        Greenland isn’t Faroe, but the hunting methods are indistinguishable.

        *
        Why would you think that most mainland Danes object strongly? Horrible as it looks, it’s more or less the most humane way to hunt whales, if it is to be done. I’m a member of both WSPA and Greenpeace (for over 15 years), and I think this is acceptable, when done with the enormous level of scrutiny and regulation that it is.

        • Xiongmao

          I was surprised by those numbers and as it turns out you are representing them wrongly, or at least without proper explanation. “Traditional whale hunting in Greenland” covers people hunting in groups from one-man canoes, as they’ve done for thousands of years. This is no threat to anything and doesn’t in any way include commercial whaling. They catch enough meat for themselves. The article also states that half the Danes are categorically against whaling, which is a darn high number for a country that was based on farming and fishing for centuries, and in many ways still are.

          I thought the number was higher though. I haven’t heard much of this issue lately but when I was young -ehm,, younger- everyone were up in arms whenever we saw or heard from the Faroe slaughter.

          • Dane

            My representation is not wrong. It’s 100% correct. My translation is a literal one, and the context is explained.

            However, your description of Greenlandic whaling is incorrect, and highly misleading. No one-man canoes are used at any time (what a load of BS). Greenlandic whaling is either riffelfangst (following the animal for miles, shooting it with rifles, until it slowly bleeds to death) or harpooning (for the animal, exactly the same as Norway, Japan, etc).

            This is arguably much LESS humane than beaching, since it’s much slower.

            You’re also incorrect about the commercial nature. It DOES include commercial whaling. Like I said, I’m WSPA and GP, I’m well versed in the issue – you need only google it (gør det på Dansk for bedre resultater). It’s not just about “catching enough meat for themselves”, the meat is sold internationally.

            http://www.wspa.dk/latestnews/2008/undersoegelse_groenland.aspx

            In reality, the Faroe hunt is (far) more humane than the Greenlandic one, but it gets more criticism due to being done close to shore. The Faroe hunt also meticulously avoids killing any endangered whales (due to the immense scrutiny), while the less accountable “traditional” Greenlandic one (using modern firearms, on motorized ships made of metal, far away from prying eyes) is less accountable.

          • Dane

            Here’s a description of Greenlandic whaling:

            http://blog.ecoadvise.dk/#category0

            “Den grønlandske hvalfangst har i dag intet med oprindelig hvalfangst at gøre. Metoderne er riffelfangst, hvor hvaler på op til 12 meters længde forfølges fra joller og skydes indtil de forbløder og drukner, eller man anvender harpunkanoner i lighed med hvalfangsten i Norge og Japan.

            Harpunkanonerne kendte man ikke til i Grønland før Danmark sendte skibet M/S Sonja op kort før 2. verdenskrig. M/S Sonja og efterfølgeren M/S Sonja II sejlede i flere år op og ned langs Grønlands kyster, skød hvaler og slæbte dem ind til kysten. Her var der tale om ren kødforsyning. I dag er Grønland velforsynet med fødevarer.”

          • Dane

            Yeah, I thought so. You don’t give a damn about truth, do you…

  • Dane

    I am Danish.

    Did you know that Scandinavians have been thinking about what the most humane way to kill a whale is, for a very long time?

    The alternative to this method is “harpoon and drag”. Most people agree that this is generally much slower, much more painful. Much less humane. The only upshot is that it agonizes the watching humans less, since it takes place quietly out at sea (rather than attract a horde of mostly-concerned onlookers, as in this photo, generating endless debates every year about how to “do it right”).

    Did you know that the horrible scene you see on the above pictures is regarded by many to be the MOST humane way to hunt and kill whales? More humane than their deaths in the wild by sharks, and almost certainly more humane than death by the maliciously playful Killer Whale: the Faroe do their best to kill them instantaneously, unlike the wild predator.

    *
    It’s possible to argue that whales should never, ever be killed. Honestly, I think this is a valid, ethical position. But if you don’t think that pilot whales are above deer, boar, moose, etc – then this is about as humane as it gets. Crazy as that may sound, looking at the scary pictures… hunting is bloody, thrashing stuff.

    The atmosphere at these things has nothing of the “evil” about it that some commenters seem to imagine. Try to find youtube videos of it. People are non-stop chatting about concern for the animals well-being; it’s sort of ridiculous, but this strong concern for the animal is somehow seen as the “manly” way to behave (and everyone knows how keenly they are being watched).

    • mr. weiner

      I still think row boats and period costume would be the way to go, but that just my easthetic..

      • Dane

        Honestly, I sort of agree. The sheer awesomeness would IMO justify killing the whales by punching.

    • anotherKINGO

      Fuck off or i will slaughter you

  • Xiongmao

    Urgh. This story pops up from time to time and as a Dane I can honestly say I find this disgusting, and a HUGE majority of Danes do as well. We’ve tried to stop this many times but the Faroe Islands is more like an overseas territory than an actual part of Denmark (if you look at a map you’ll know how far away it is) and we have limited options when it comes to their culture and traditions, which I overall see as a good thing. In their -limited- defence it has been a tradition for centuries in order to secure much needed meat and proteins as well as winter storage. The North Atlantic is not exactly a place where you could afford to let nutritional resources go to waste, and in some ways that still plays since everything imported to the Faroe Islands will get a severe price hike due to the costs.

    I DO on the other hand find it rich to see Chinese people complain about animal cruelty, especially against “Denmark” which has some of the most comprehensive laws on animal welfare in the world. Every time I see animals and the way they are treated in China it breaks my heart a little.

  • Dane

    @Brett: that’s an incredibly stupid comment, lol.

    Just because you only hear about/concern yourself when Shepherd attacks asians, doesn’t mean that reality follows your “whites attack asians, not other whites” prejudice. You have what is called “confirmation bias”.

    Read the record of Sea Shephard in the Faroe Islands, just google for it. And Greenland, Norway, etc.

    Such a stupid comment…

    • Just John

      Think you are a day late and a dollar short.
      Someone else already called him out on it.

      For reference, next time, you can just click the “Reply” button below his comment and comment directly to him, instead of having a random reference to his post isolated somewhere else. Just like you did with Xiongmao.

      • Dane

        Thanks John,
        Yeah, I know, I just accidentally misplaced my reply. And CS unfortunately doesn’t allow delete/edit.

        • Just John

          Understand that. There have been a few times I was frantically clicking the x to stop the post, only to find out later it posted and to have to admit that I was at that time an idiot, and replied to the wrong post.

    • Brett Hunan

      I will repost for you too
      From above:
      “1986: The S.S. claims responsibility for the sinking of two Icelandic vessels and damage performed against an Icelandic whaling station.

      Check that out, Chauker was wrong.

      I will pose my question again: ‘You don’t really think all of those people would be fighting off the Japanese ships unless they had it documented for profit or fame, do you?’- Notice I was talking about S.S. and not Greenpeace. Please, little panda, do a little research yourself to see about all the lies that Paul Watson has made just to raise more funds and gain publicity.”

      I never said that “whites attack asians, not other whites”. Please re-read as I was just trying to clear up what Jay was asking. Note that I didn’t agree or approve of that comment.

      • Dane

        Fair enough Brett, sorry for mistaking you for the tool you were summarizing for.

        @Jay: everything I said to Brett was meant for you.

        • Brett Hunan

          It’s okay. I probably deserve much more from others for never proof-reading before posting. Its what I get for answering in what is usually raw opinion but sounding as if it is a fact.

    • Chad

      There’s no doubt they do participate overe there but it’s also certain they target Japanese ships a LOT more. They create movies and TV series about it even. I’ve yet to see a single popularized movie or TV series of their adventures in Scandinavia. Perhaps they realize that shows about Japanese whaling would prove more popular amongst the Americans than videos about Scandinavian whaling. For whatever reason they do it I can’t say for sure, but it’s pretty ignorant to claim they cover Scandinavian whaling even half as much as they do Japanese whaling.

      • Dane

        That might have to do with different practices, Chad. The Japanese just have more to target. Norwegians don’t have a “cove” for killing dolphins (there is no significant market for their meat), let alone 20000 of them every year. And Norwegian whaling simply has smaller scale, (much) lower levels of corruption and illegal whaling, and a general lack of world-famous whale-meat embezzlement scandals, high-level bribery cases, etc.

        Obviously the Japanese are much better targets, that’s just a fact. This “it’s all about racism” idea you’re pushing… what a load of BS. Come on.

      • Takeru

        Agree on that fully !

  • Lance 20

    First off, I do find the amount of whales slaughtered unfathomable and probably unnecessary.

    But I think we do forget the way this planet has been functioning for millions of years. Our ecosystem is a nothing other than a ever changing hierarchy. The weak are hunted by hunters and hunters become hunted by those even stronger. Pretending that the human is an enlightened and divine creature which should put its self above eating other organisms due to its vast knowledge and intelligence is a naive pretense.

    What bothers me is mankind taking the ecosystem into their own hands. Not hunting but creating, abusing and sustaining. It’s self-destructive, inhumane and very unnatural to say the least. If these huntings of whales disturb anyone I would urge them to see into their own fridge and take a closer look. You pay money, money well needed in today’s economy, on mass slaughtering probably four times a week if not more and we are talking about animals that are force fed, physically abused on a daily base and never got to see the light of day!
    Death is a natural and constant occurance, what matters is the life lived previous to it.

    Protest by all means, but please know what you are protesting for.
    After all we are an intelligent species.

    • Rob

      It’s because we’re an intelligent species and that we are conscious of our existence that we must accept greater responsibility for the rationality of our decisions.

      Your points don’t address the true issue being raised regarding this practice in Denmark, which is that the originally rational reasons for killing the whales (to prove personal strength to one’s self and the members of their community while stockpiling food resources for winter months) no longer applies.

      There are many ways that we all contribute to the raping of our planet’s resources in our daily lives, and each person is responsible for their actions, which is all the more reason to hold these people responsible for this practice that has no place in developed society.

      Death is natural when occurring naturally, but this practice in Denmark is not natural because it is completely unnecessary. In what way does the killing of these whales benefit society in this day and age?

      The basis of your argument is flawed because agree that it is “self-destructive” and attempt to justify this based on the fact that there are many other ways that we are “self-destructive”. Moving towards a new normal food production and consumption reality in the future demands that we at least attempt to change practices that contribute to that destruction when we encounter them.

      If your argument was “change the whole system along with this practice”, I would agree, but instead you’re saying “we need to change the system and that until the system changes, excessive irrational practices are justifiable”. How then will the system ever change if we are unwilling to address the most irrational behaviors first, of which I would argue the killing of these whales ranks near the top.

      • Dane

        “Death is natural when occurring naturally, but this practice in Denmark is not natural because it is completely unnecessary. In what way does the killing of these whales benefit society in this day and age?”

        Are you opposed to all meat hunting of wild animals?

  • Christian

    Being half-Faroese, I have once participated in this killing of pilot whales, which is a tradition in the Faroe Islands. This also gets a lot of negative attention in the Danish media and the general Danish person do not approve of this act.

    However, if people – and journalists – had the decency to consider what this is actually about, there would most-likely be a better understanding for this tradition. These whales (they are not at all threaten by extinction) are maybe stressed for 15 min. before we kill them, while in the rest of the west, we keep chickens, pigs and cows in prison-like conditions for their entire life. I don’t really care about these animals and cannot see the difference between killing a beautiful whale after it has lived a good life swimming around in the oceans, and killing a charming cow spending an entire life prisoned on a farm with terrible conditions.

    It’s meat, and it’s what we eat! AND every gram of the whales we kill is used in one way or another.

    • Just John

      Do you ever shout “Thar she blows!”?

      Sorry, had to ask. Just (t)rolling along…

    • Dane

      Unfortunately, anyone stupid enough to disagree with you also has ADHD, and has forgotten that this thread even existed. Jay, Xiongmao, and the other “poor whales!” types are currently trundling through other threads on this very site, quite oblivious to the fact that they have had their stupid posts addressed in this one.

      To the fool, an internet forum is like a kind of mental toilet.

    • anotherKINGO

      Please let us meet on a beach with your fat head and me with a knife

  • Alexander

    Its a little island near the North Pole where nothing grows and the goats live in the mountains………….. I’ve seen worse in the streets of Guangzhou…..

  • Rob

    @jacky1202 We’re talking about DENMARK here… not exactly sub-saharan Africa when it comes to social security and standards of living… Denmark is a developed economy with access to international food supply and to say that this is because they need food for the winter is flat out ridiculous. You’re an idiot.

  • Galle

    These people occupy the lowest rung on the ladder of life. The horror of this unnecessary act should convince you that the Holocaust could happen again. We’ve been given a bigger brain, but it doesn’t make us any better.

  • URMOMM

    wow so much Protest

    Hope all of u are Vegetarians, and dont Call KFC for some spicy chicken Wings yammy yammy

    otherwise shut the fuck up u

  • Peter Jensen

    I’m from Denmark and there’s been NO media on this. I do not know if these are in fact really old pictures or if the media has diminished this story! Either way, I’m ashamed to be danish right now.

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  • Takeru

    And nobody gives a damn !

    everybody is pointing on Japan !

    To me it seems ok if Caucasians do it – but not Asians !

    I am against whaling in all countries !

    • Bruce Tutty

      They’re all wrong, Japan, Norway, whereever…don’t act innocent

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