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China’s GDP Surpasses Japan To Become #2, Netizen Reactions

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From NetEase:

Japan expresses welcome to news of China’s GDP surpassing Japan, says per capita is still 10x China’s

Summary: During a press conference on the morning of the 14th, Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano welcomed news of China’s 2010 GDP figures surpassing that of Japan’s. He also stated that Japan was still over 10x China in terms of per capita GDP.

Comments from NetEase:

网易广西玉林市网友:

China is a pyramid-shaped society,
Japan is [American] football-shaped society.

网易广东省惠州市网友: (responding to above)

Is a pyramid or a football more stable? Try setting a football upright and see!

网易浙江省杭州市网友: (responding to above)

Try flipping a pyramid upside-down and see?

网易广东省深圳市网友:

At the time of the First Sino-Japanese War, the Qing Dynasty’s GDP was 6x that of Japan’s. Now that over a hundred years has passed, our country is now even with Japan. How it became equal everyone knows, and can see just how much [our country] has degenerated/degraded~~

网易辽宁省大连市网友:

In terms of standard of living, we’re far worse than Japan, hehe, however our leaders don’t really care about this.

网易陕西省咸阳市网友:

This slap in the face is really loud~~

网易天津市网友:

Don’t worry, we still have a lot of land that hasn’t been sold, a lot of houses that haven’t been demolished.

6.网易山东省临沂市网友

Everyone please don’t worry, our motherland must have some way of letting our per capita GDP also be 10x that of Japan’s, and within the near future.

网易广东省广州市网友:

What’s Japan’s population? How about us? There’s still a big difference.

网易江苏省手机网友:

Japan’s per capita is ten times China’s, yet prices are lower than China, housing prices also lower than China, though China’s population is four times that of Japan’s. In short, those who have never gone outside the country are unable to appreciate these huge differences. Don’t be deceived by officials and the media, remember: China’s media is the mouthpiece of the officials, and is the least impartial.

网易内蒙古包头市网友:

The character of a country’s managers [government officials] and its people is the true measure of a country’s strength and vitality.

网易浙江省湖州市网友:

Hearing this, brother [referring to self] feels very helpless, and only wants to ask the masses of Chinese people: Are you guys happy? Are you guys convinced?

[Note: Here, the commenter interestingly used 幸福 (xinf fu, happiness) and 信服 (xin fu, to be convinced) one after another.]

网易广东省河源市手机网友:

Children, don’t be so naive. Don’t always believe that China’s is well developed now/currently developing well. Leaving aside Europe, Japan and Korea in the ancient times also used to be part of China, but it is plain to see how they have developed after they became independent. India and North Korea continue to rise, and China has a saying: If you don’t see the coffin, you won’t cry [you won't get serious until you realize the consequences]. Don’t really wait until China is invaded by others an unable to fight because before knowing that China still needs to work hard to develop. I think China’s largest problems are the character of its population and the people’s thinking, because if these are fixed, is it possible to not develop?

12.网易浙江省杭州市网友

There are two economic graduate students A and B. The two of them walking on a road when they discover a pile of dog shit. A says to B: Eat it and I’ll give you 50 million. Hearing this, B thinks, “Wow, so easy to make 50 million, even though it is a little stinky, at worst just take the money to go have my stomach pumped,” and so he took the shit and ate it.
The two of them continue walking, but both feel a bit unhappy and uneven. A lost 50 million and got nothing in return. B, though it can be said that he earned 50 million, doesn’t feel very good after eating the shit.
At this moment, they discover another pile of shit, and B finally finds something that will put him at ease, saying to A: “Eat it, and I’ll also give you 50 million. A thinks, “If I can earn back the 50 million I lost, so what if I eat a pile of shit, didn’t B eat it too?” So, he ate the shit too. According to reason, the two people should feel even now, but the more they pondered, the more they felt not right, neither of them having gained anything, yet each of them having eaten a pile of shit. So, they went to find a professor, and after listening to their story, the professor said, comforting them: “Students, you guys should be happy, the two of your eating two piles of shit has contributed 100 million to our country’s GDP!”

网易陕西省西安市网友:

First, let’s not talk about how much exaggeration [inflated numbers/reporting] is in our Heavenly Kingdom’s GDP. Even if the GDP figures are true and real, how big is China? How many people? What about Japan? Surpassing Japan is worth showing off? What a joke!

网易广东省河源市手机网友:

China’s GDP (gou de pi, dog’s fart) includes too much exaggeration, so even if it made us number one in the world, so what? The poor are even poorer.

网易天津市手机网友:

Congratulations, congratulations! It really is true that one is invincible if one is shameless. Next goal: surpassing America!

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  • Dixie Normous

    may i be the first to sit on this comfy sofa?

  • ##BlothaLonely##

    Here I claim the coffee table next to the sofa…

    ding me please.. ~_~

  • Rick in China

    That econ students eating shit story is funny, and a new one for me.

    • Laonei

      They should be arrested for not paying tax on the transactions. Or maybe the punchline from the professor should be “you both owe the state millions. congrats.”

  • Jay K.

    Amrica fuck yeah! coming again to get the mothafuckin sofa!

  • http://www.ethansenglishcafe.com Ethan

    Glad to see a lot of rational responses to this in the comments. Congrats China ont he GDP, how about working on sustainability of your economy now…

  • Brett Hunan

    “when small Japan has accomplished far more than “big” China ever will.”

    I wouldn’t be too sure about that. China still has a bright future ahead.

    Did you see the article about RMB push to become the “new dollar” as the world’s reserve currency? It was in Forbes yesterday.
    http://blogs.forbes.com/gordonchang/2011/02/13/the-final-liberalization-of-the-renminbi/

    Also, check out this article on Chinese patents in the Asia Times.
    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/MA07Cb01.html

    I am not saying that Japan hasn’t done great things. But China is ready to compete.

    • Brett Hunan

      wtf, where did the post that I replied to go?

    • keius

      Patent rights + China don’t belong in the same sentence. That same article you quoted expains why.

      The same article on reserve currency being renminbi…also explains why it won’t happen. It also omitted that China exports 40% of it’s GDP. To be the reserve currency will mean being a major debt holder so it has leverage on currency types. Not enough imports and too much exports say’s this won’t happen. Especially with the way China is pushing for continued economic growth based widely on exports. To become the worlds reserve currency will require China to become the worlds top consumer. The US currently holds this distinct title. You can ggle for more details.
      Without a doubt, the renminbi will be a player but it won’t be the reserve currency in my lifetime…if that ever happens.

      • KopyKatKiller

        Also, in order to be a player, let alone a reserve currency, on the international markets, China would have to allow foreign financial companies to operate in China. China today is the worlds most tightly controlled financial system with almost no foreign involvement. RMB as world’s reserve currency, it ain’t gonna happen!

  • Chris N.

    I posted this in an early article but it relates exactly:

    If China’s GDP (5 trillion) increased by 10% for 10 straight years then they would reach the US’s GDP today (14 trillion). However that would still only leave them with a GDP per capita of under $11000 which is just over today’s world average. And in 10 years the US and the rest of the world’s GDP would presumably increase as well, along with China’s population.

    For China to be equal with Japan’s GDP per capita they would need a total GDP of about 44.2 trillion. China’s GDP would have to increase by 10% for an impossible 23 years to reach this level if it does not allow its population to increase. Also, in 23 years, presumably the GDP of Japan and other countries would increase as well.

    I think a lesson learned is its quickly becomes pointless and boring to look at GDP numbers and comparing country to country. Will people finally be satisfied when China catches up to Japan? Better to not think too much about it and live a full and enjoyable life as best you are able, now.

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    • bobiscool

      sugoi na… kono atikuru no uta no kashi wa nihongo desu…

      I think GDP isn’t really something to be proud of, but still I don’t like how the japanese minister was rubbing it in their faces. That’s unfriendly, rude, and pointless. What will it do, other than make some chinese people feel angry?

      it’s such a worthless comment, as worthless as all the hype about china surpassing japan’s GDP.

      • guizi

        True, his comments are very bad. Even in Japan, his comments were condemned. Why cannot he just say congratulations to China?

        He is Mr. Edano who I think is very anti-Chinese government, and pro-taiwan and pro-tibet. Perhaps that is one reason to not be able to simply say congratulations. He kind of lacks the ability of politician.

  • Name (required)

    Short article for the win. Anyone with me on this?

    • mankouzanghua

      it’s only the summary of the article.

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  • Cleo

    After WW2, The Philippine economy was No. 1 not Japan. I think that the Allies esp. the Philippines made the painful decision to subsidize the Japanese economy including using Chinese business minds with Japanese citizenship so that we could conduct the Cold War against Japan not China. I look forward to the end of this prolonged suffering and deprivation of ordinary people who don’t deserve to be coolies for monsters of Germany and Japan. The Filipino lost a great deal in terms of their international reputation and image of their people for the cause without the glorious past that China has or Jin Yong’s stories to keep our courage up.

    • Sunni

      Jin Yong’s stories to keep your courage up? Lol what?

    • dim mak

      lol Cleo’s daily conspiracy theories

    • dim mak

      >Leaving aside Europe, Japan and Korea in the ancient times also used to be part of China
      >China’s population is four times that of Japan’s
      >yet prices are lower than China, housing prices also lower than China,

      What is this shite? Approaching American levels of stupid here :\ And didn’t this happen last year?

      • anon

        Wasn’t last year about surpassing Germany? Or was that the year before? Anyway, I think it’s because of the recent statements by the Japanese government responding to being passed, not that it just happened.

      • bobiscool

        1. Japan and Korean WERE apart of China.
        I mean they were sovereign states, but they were vassals, and China was the hegemon. Although China had much more influence on korea than on Japan.

        and yeah, it happened last year, but it is confirmed this year

        • dim mak

          Vassals aren’t a part of China, that’s the point

        • guizi

          For Chinese Emperor, Tianxia or the world was all his. I heard that Qing dynasty’s history books includes England as vassal state too as they sent tribute to China.

  • Irvin

    GDP = private consumption + gross investment + government spending + net exports

    What you bet that private consumption is the smallest part of this equation?

    The disparity of wealth in china is beyond believe!

    • Sunni

      Actually, I think, giving the Chinese government’s history, a lot of “government spending” will go under the “private consumption” category in the report. lol.

      • Irvin

        Hahahaha that’s true, we gotta work out a new equation for the GDP of china. lol

    • Bob

      Where does bribery factor in?

  • Chad

    Wow some Chinese citizens are so naive or ignorant.

    “Japan’s per capita is ten times China’s, yet prices are lower than China, housing prices also lower than China, though China’s population is four times that of Japan’s. In short, those who have never gone outside the country are unable to appreciate these huge differences. Don’t be deceived by officials and the media, remember: China’s media is the mouthpiece of the officials, and is the least impartial.”

    Since when is China more expensive to live in than Japan? Good grief!

    • Baga Yaro

      And you are just not updated (to the best). Comparing the price level of Tokyo and Shanghai, what he said is not that out of the line if you consider Tokyo metropolitan population 35.7mm and Shanghai 16.7mm.

      Duly noted the commenter you quoted is not accurate but unless you have never been in Japan in the past five years, you wouldn’t have made a statement “Since when is China more expensive to live in than Japan? Good grief!”

      Unless of course, you just wanted to bash.

    • whichone

      Perhaps they didn’t mean it in absolute terms but by proportion to the average income?

    • mrnightcat

      Prices of general things such as food and apartment rent are unquestionably cheaper, but firstly a few things are more expensive, I suppose due to government tax or control, electronics coming to mind. I pay more for electronics here in China than I do back home in the UK or on visit to Japan.

      But the biggest issue is always housing prices. I actually haven’t looked into housing prices in Japan so I may not have the right to comment on what’s written above, but what I do know is that for half to 75% of the price of a city apartment of relatively decent size in China (let’s say around RMB10,000 per square metre), I can buy a whole house in the UK in expensive city outskirts or a town, which is probably twice the size.

      Housing prices in China are extraordinarily high. The above comparison though is from comparing a family home in the UK, say my family’s home, with a Chinese apartment in a second-tier city such as Xiamen.

      • Sunni

        Then it might scare you to look up housing prices in Japan. Mostly Tokyo, though.
        Absolutely ridiculous.

        • bobiscool

          Chinese property is infinitely more expensive. Why? Simply because you don’t get to keep anything.

        • Oscar

          I don’t think high-priced-house is something to be proud of, American can afford their house much more easier than the Chinese or Japanese, that is part of reality that the US is still the most powerful country in which its people don’t worry about their basic need so much.

          • ellen

            so for chinese people, we have a long way to go and to develop the economy

  • cs

    its funny how ppl are so ignorant and negative about this news. As a student who took statics, you need to understand the absolute number never matters but if you put it to scale. Yes, it is true that per capital Japan has 10x China’s GDP. However, what one must consider is if it is 10x now, what was it before? China was one of the poorest nations 30 years ago and Deng Xiao Ping said lets open up and chase the west. Now, 30 years later, China is in the position to become world number 1 in the next 15 years. The transformation is huge. The sacrifices is bigger. China had the world’s largest GDP for 900 of the last 1000 years. Its time to reclaim that spot.

    • whichone

      Well it’s also important to have a little historical and economic perspective along with the statistical trend reading. In the 80′s many people thought Japan, then experiencing similar explosive growth from the 50′s to 70′s, also lead by state capitalism, was going to overtake the United States as the biggest economy of the world. China is following in a very similar model to Japan’s with planned allocation of state resources into key economies, investment into infrastructure and property. Whether or not China can learn from Japan’s lesson remains to be seen but I don’t think one can simply interpolate the growth over last few decades and extend them to the future.

      • Albino

        Not in the least because Japan has a massive debt, Japan’s debt it 200% of their GDP. The only reason that country hasn’t been officially declared bankrupt is because if it does it’ll have an enormous impact on the rest of the world. Glorious it will be when it happens.

        They could always just print more money, right?

        • k2000k

          It helps their debt is all internally held as well. But the sad fact is, Japan will collapse, its an eventuality at this point. Their population is shirking which means they will not have enough workers to fund their entitlement programs or to maintain their current infrastructure levels. China has a problem because they have emulated Japans economic model, which eventually crashed, and even if they manage to avoid that by transitioning to a more balanced economy, they still have the problem of the massive demographic shrink that will hit them in the future. The real risk China has is that it will grow old before it grows rich. Now with the United States, they need to get their fiscal house in order, or bad things will happen. Its really scary to consider how precarious a position all the nations of the world are at the moment and for the near future.

          • Albino

            Japan is the largest holder of US bonds. Soon they’ll be able to use them as toilet paper, because monopoly money is worth more. The only thing that gives money its value is us not understand that the money that is created is worthless. The moment gold was no longer required for the printing of money all currencies became worthless, that’s why it can be endlessly printed.

            If we create money in our basements it’s a crime but if we call ourselves a bank and create this money in 0′s and 1′s it’s legal. This is why the world is doing so badly economically, it’s an unsustainable system crumbling. This is why the USA is falling like a house of cards. You say bad things will happen. Bad things can’t happen to a bankrupt state.

          • Of Canada

            Totally agree. Rapid change and shift of wealth happening among the nations today. Lots of currencies are going to either jump or dwindle in value and inflation of commodity prices everywhere. We will witness the US dollar lose tremendous value in the next few years. All I can say is buy gold and silver now!

  • finalexodus

    I think its time for a clarification or two.

    Yes, GDP per capita is important when you are talking about the relative wealth of a single citizen. And I’m sure that’s what most people in China care about. Whether they are rich or not. This over-hyped figure is also frequently mentioned in Western media to emphasize that although China has come a long way, its citizens are still poor.

    What people don’t realize is that GDP (nominal or PPP) as a whole matters much more when it comes to power of a state. Yes for an ordinary Chinese, China’s GDP surpassing Japan might not mean much. But in terms of geopolitics and power, its immense. Because China is so huge and that it is one single entity, the influence and power it exerts is enormous (understated). When two countries compete, more often then not its what the entire country can bring to the table, instead of whether a white protestant in Massachusetts have more than someone in Shandong. In only a decade’s time will China surpass the United States. That is not far. That is not in your children’s children lifetime. That is 10 years away.

    Being the number one economy means you are the leader of the world. Yes you might lag militarily, scientifically, technologically or even educationally. Those do not matter. GDP is the driver of all the aforementioned powers. Without GDP, you can’t do anything. And you also cannot expect GDP per capita to grow at 90% per year. It is already growing at an annual rate of 8%. That is stunningly high. You cannot expect a country of 1.3 billlion peasants to instantly in 4 months become as rich as the United States. It takes time. It must take time. However, I am skeptical too whether China’s GDP per capita will ever make it to advanced developed status. Yet it is a given that China will be the number one power in just 20 years, given its sheer size, population, economy, which brings along with it, military power, technological and scientific advances.

    • dim mak

      Precisely. Only bitter losers whine about per capita GDP. At the end of the day overall GDP will raise per capita GDP, living standards, and give the nation a larger budget to do just about anything.

    • Oscar

      Agree with you. Population can means a lot when it comes to the power of the nation. The GDP per capita of China is so small also means there is a large headroom to grow, the standard of living for Chinese people definitely will continue to improve to get close to the west standard. Even it may not catch up the GDP per capita of west finally, but when it gets close, like 5 times than currently, it’s entire GDP also expanse 5x! So to say China will become the top GDP entity is definitely not a joke.

  • FD

    幸福 is xing fu, not xin fu.

  • Albino

    And the wheel that is the economic game continues. GDP is nonsense as only a small percentage controls the majority of the wealth. The GDP in the US is so massively high because the corporations hoarding the money and starving the rest of the population, whilst feeding them empty dreams. Our economic system is on the verge of collapse and demise, one only needs to look at the poor of the world and imagine how long they will remain dormant while the corporate suits bleed the world dry.

    I hope to see the end of meaningless terms like GDP, growth, capita and other worthless words that only mean money.

    Infected we are with the sickness of greed.

    • k2000k

      GDP has its place, though it is widely manipulated. In the United States blowing up a $ 10,000 missile counts as adding to GDP and in China digging a ditch and refilling it counts as adding to GDP. Non of them actually add any real capital, but it still counts as such. Now as for the corporations, they aren’t the result of poor in the world. That, my friend, belongs to the corrupt governments. One simple rule must be remembered, large corrupt corporations cannot exist without a large corrupt government. Few talk about how the rail road barons in the US during the gilded age originally made their wealth through government contracts before they created their monopolies. Few talk about how so many regulations, mean’t to punish these corporations really do nothing more than make the barriers to entry for smaller businesses impossible, thereby protecting corporations profits, the auto industry is a great example of this.

      • Albino

        Every country with a super high GDP is on the brink of collapse. Please explain in which world GDP has a place, apart from one where less than 5% of the population control 95% of the wealth, which inevitably leads to social decline and disaster for all.

    • dim mak

      Except higher GDP countries do have much better living standards than low GDP ones. Greed is the mighty engine of human civilization. Anything else is just moralist cowardice. Give China all your money if you feel so afflicted with it.

  • anon

    As of this moment, I’m rather impressed by the quality of comments by chinaSMACK readers in this post. At least in comparison to those found in certain other posts.

    • bobiscool

      my sentiments exactly, anon

  • Final Word

    THE FINAL WORD…..

    While GDP is not the be all and end all, it has a lot of influence and sway on people’s mentality.

    Why is something “black” or “white”? Only because that is what we are told. Likewise we are told that America is the “largest” economy. But most of its GDP is consumer spending. Spending – not saving & investing. The high-tech components of the USA economy are not Yankee homegrown. Lots of migrants and skills from around the world – which ultimately will one day return to their homelands.

    China’s path is right. The suffering of the few is for the benefit of the collective. Ultimately when China and other regional powers can reduce America’s influence to its own backyard is the day when the American reserve currency farce will come to an end.

    China has been working on infrastructure and being a global workshop all these years. We don’t have the global brands, but we will get there. We have to start at the bottom, but we own the bottom and the trouble is that there is a race to the bottom. If you look at a lot of goods in life, the constant price competition is causing a race to the bottom and therefore eventually China will dominate. Perhaps not through artistic ability in everything, but by sheer volume and scale.

  • guizi

    As a Japanese, I had not cared much about the fact that Japan was the world second economy until the world media started talking about China overtaking Japan for the last few years. Japan was the number 2 economy for the last 40 years, so what?

    Around 2010, China is going to surpass the US. I look forward to seeing the reactions of Americans.

    • guizi

      After waking up, I saw my own comment and found out that it was not well written. Haha.

      My meaning was that I have not cared about the number 2 status all my life, and the world media is just making a fuss. verry strange.

      • bobiscool

        lol

        kisama wa guizi desu ka? nihongo ga hanashite kudasai.

        • guizi

          kisama（貴様）は、けんかの時にやくざが使う言葉です。

          Kisama is a word used by gangster when they are quarreling. please be careful.

          • bobiscool

            betsumi ii’n janai?

            I used Kisama because I assumed that you were a chinese guy pretending to be Japanese. That’s what your comments sound like, plus why would a guizi call themselves guizi?

            I don’t have much against real japanese people, and I’m chinese myself. But I do dislike Chinese people who pretend to be Japanese. Especially the Chinese people who, after going to Japan suddenly feel that they’re superior to other Chinese people. That’s just disgusting.

            P.S Yakuza keeps the streets safe. :) Yamaguchi-gumi no kodokai banzai! :p

      • Oscar

        I guess most Chinese in the post above agree with your attitude towards GDP. That’s why they all focus GDP per cap, for individual, only their own life matters.

      • Dan Danger

        Don’t know where you get your figures for China passes the US in 2010 and that must have been a typo. Even Chinese economist do not put China becoming equal to the US economy, even it a weakened state, for another 30 to 40 years. And that assumes the US will not, in the competive manner they thrive in under pressure, resolve the problems they currently are facing. The same is true of the military situation. China is decades away from being a viable threat to the US and it powerful allies.

        Sadly this is how many Chinese people see things. Not China growong anf being a part of the world community, and one that other nations can look up to and respect. They are more than content to bully and cheat their way to the top and once there exact revenge on nations that did something, real or perceived, to China in the past.

        It is primitive and medaevil mentality but one that is sadly too prevalent here. Though we can see too, from places like Chinasmack, not universal.

  • Curt

    When I first heard this news I totally expected that half of the netizens would make the connection and say “Little Japan!” Shocking.

  • Dan

    I highly doubt you will surpass America anytime soon, with all of the problems you face, wake up and take a long hard look at your own country first, lol. ;-)

    • Dan

      Hey, I just wanted to revise my comment. I really like what Dan Danger has to say, because I work with Chinese students at a university here in the midwest. One thing I want to point out, and I won’t apply this to all Chinese students that come here but a large majority from what I’ve seen, have that attitude Dan Danger mentions above. And God forbid you mention anything about their country. I even mentioned how I can read stories about what happens in China on the BBC news and they were angry that westerners had “access” to China’s domestic business. It really amazes the hell out of me how they can have anti-western propaganda all over their news, all of the time, but we can’t mention one word about theirs. Also, rankings based on economy doesn’t mean the quality of life is that great for the Chinese people. I really feel that will catch up with them sooner or later. Also, I love how “nationalist” some them can be, and then switch suddenly to want to try to stay here in America and get a job here. Hey, they want a better life, I’m totally supportive of that, but please keep that nationalist crap back at home and open up your mind to new ideas, PLEASE! China comes up on the world stage, and they still act like their still stuck after WWII. I’m really not trying to insult China and Chinese in this comment, and I have many great Chinese friends, even my girlfriend is Chinese, but man, sometimes the mentality they have gets overwhelming. Thanks for hearing me out.

  • JB

    Since the Sino-Japanese War Chinese and Japanese are still in disrespecting eachother in needless competition and material greed.

  • Law

    I’m white and French. I have been 4 times in Japan for a total of 9 months. On the other hand I live with a chinese woman (my wife), and has been in Shanghai for two months.

    What I can say is, Japanese people are one of the most refined people I saw. They might not be perfect, but they are highly refined regarding to gastronomy, arts, esthetic, and of course social relations. Japan is refinment. Being in Japan was always a great pleasure for me.

    Now and according to a real experience, I can say in a very calm and rationnal way, that chinese people are one of the most dirty, uneducated, uncivilised and rude people I ever saw.

    Don’t search any excuse like “you can’t generalize, etc..”. I do generalize, and I do it objectively ! For X chinese mans and womans I met during the last 2 years, that’s only what I saw.

    Having cohabitation with all the chinese I met since the two past years, my wife’s dozens friends, ex-boyfriend, ex-boyfriend’s new girlfriend, many different roomates, dozens of random meetings, AND ALL the chineses I’ve met in Shanghai (the so called most developper and civilised city). I’m now able to say in a calm and rationnal manner, that chinese people are possibly the worst scum on earth. It’s always really choking for me to remember about some episodes of my life with the chinese. 

    Listen to me, you can’t compare China to Japan in any way, it’s just another world.. How much people here have been to Japan ? The immigration regulation is actually so serious, because the worst thing which could happend to Japan is a massive chinese immigration !

    You will probably not believe it. My mother had family in Poland before the fall of the Berlin wall, their refused to think France could be better than their country. Finally they came here, they was so shocked about how high was our living standards. The same thing could happend to any of you travelling in Japan.

    Building 400m skyscrapers will not make you a civilised country. You just aren’t. Shanghai, the city itself, is incredibly soul-less, cold and ugly. I’m sorry if it sounds quite “hating”, probably it is, because I have really been chocked by you. You are truly barbaric and heartless. You don’t need to kill and eat dog penis and testicles for being barbaric, no.. you are when you walk, you are when you talk, you are when you stare, it’s ingrained deeply in you, so deep you think your attitude is normal. That’s the worse.

    You all think your life and your manners are normal.

    China need 100 more years to civilisate and become a real country. If you can, which is not really sure.
    Your only force in the world is having an armada of slave workers that no one can compete with. Not more than this.

    Unfortunately for you, most of the people who was in China will agree with me. I talked to so much you cannot imagine.

    China, you have to educate your people, and educate yourself. I talk about very, very simple MANNERS.

    Hating Japan won’t change how mediocre you are. That’s just Jalousy.

    • vic2u

      So much hate for the Chinese, your g/f fly away, did she?

      “I’m now able to say in a calm and rationnal manner, that chinese people are possibly the worst scum on earth.”

      Did you say that to your China gal too?

      Better yet, you should say that to the Chinese people in any city in China, they allow whiteys to have their say in public.

      You claim you are French but jones may want proof?????

      • Law

        I certainly can assume that. Chinese people like to hate as well. I’ve been hated too. Why couldnt I hate them back ?
        I will never forgot my experience in China. Some of our problems was just related to rude mainlanders, but not all. It’s too easy to blame mainlanders for everything.. Actually I am confidentely considerating all of you as brutal and unmannered riff-raff.

        Statistically if there is 0.01% of good chinese people there will be 13 314 600. So I’m certainly sure that there are good chinese around here.. whom I’m not lucky enough to meet them

        I noticed Chinese people are so proud of how developed China is. The question is where is the development? You have too much pride and nothing to show for it. Most of you even do not know how to use toilets without painting the whole floor with your shit. I’ve been in some third world countries and I can tell you I never saw such a pestilence, but only in China. Are you not ashamed ?
        We are in the 21st century. I advise you as well to learn to say “Hi, Thank you, Good bye”. That would be a good start before pretending being developper. Don’t you think so ?

        My wife know what I think about China. And I have my reasons. After living some of the episodes we lived, she won’t enter in a debate with me. She know I feel hurt.
        Now, did we went extremely unlucky in our trip ? I don’t think so. I found dozens of blogs with terribles feedbacks and experiences of foreigners after they had travelling in China.

        Nationalism make people blind, exactly like americans who think not supporting war is an anti-american attitude. But if they are truely american, they would save their troops from being murdered by their greedy political and financial elites ! Same for you, if you are real chinese, fight for your heritage and culture, educate your people, be brave enough to look your problems in the eyes. Why can’t you agree with me ?

        1 – Because of your inability of criticizing yourself (recquier courage and honesty) but essential to work on the problems and overcome.
        2 – Because of your ignorance, which stems from living in a society in which you never have to talk to anyone who isn’t like you.

        You are ruled by an oligarcgy of ploutocrats. I can’t understand what’s your problem, what you become, so materialistic, obsessed by money, cruel, rude, heartless. Give me an explication.

        Now I really enjoy to brainwash people against China. I never had such a hate. I really understand why the japanese kicked your ass by the past. They call you “pigs”, that’s exactly what I saw. Btw I tend to not believe to the nanjing story.

        My wife is now living in France since 3 years. I saw her evolution and indeed, she changed her mind about so much things ! I know she realised about the TERRIBLE lack of manners, sensibility and empathy of the chinese. Because it’s really, really terrible.

        Who in the world can deal with chinese people ? They are the worse. I have been in South Korea, Thailand (not bkk but north close to Myanmar, very poor) and all I can say is China is a living hell with dead walking bodies. Your heart and sensibility has gone away.

      • Law

        As you can’t understand what I’m talking about, I will detail carefully all of my experiences in China in the next episode, I’m yet quite tired.. I’m curious to know if anyone could find excuses to the behaviours I have been subject. Being honest, I just could have kill some of them if I wasn’t in their country.

        That’s my experience, what can you do about ? Will you deny it ? It would be very stupid.

        And for being clear, I’m not a settler. Anywhere I go, I don’t act like some westerners can act. Not like a king, not like a prince, just an average, modest, civilised, polite man. I never wanted to despise nor hurt anobodys feelings.

        But you riff raffs, made me what I am. You have to assume that.

        • Chef Rocco

          LOL, nice reading.

          Just a friendly reminder: no Laowai calls Chinese “mainlanders”, if you can modify that and pay more attention to your English grammar, your may brainwash (as you call it) more people. Keep on your efforts!

          • Law

            French and english share the same latin roots, so it’s pretty easy to murder the language thinking I’m right.

            By mainlanders I meant “peasants” = Those who actually infest the major cities, drive all the taxis, and so on..

            Btw what is incredible, you chinese guys are 95% pussies. I just had to become serious and they all shut up or run away so fast. What a coward culture. I just could have slap any of the agressive piranhas I met, but again that’s not my country, I don’t want to be put in jail.

            You really lack testosterone. That’s what your girls like about us.

            You better pray for your shit brothers and cousins in France, I will not make any gift to them anymore.. Believe me someone is gonna eat my anger deep in the mouth. I will not tolerate your shit-people to place any loud word against my wife or me.

            Dang why are you emmigrating everywhere on the globe.. Just stay home..

            So.. everybody think my story is funny ? Where are you all from, chinese bilinguists ? Foreigners in China (hilarious choice!!! you are true winners :)) ?

            I am educated. I have manners. But assuming it’s not your case, and you’re the same riff raff, then just stay in China forever.

            I’ll be in Japan for 1 month in august with my wife. I can’t wait to discover more of the inner country. People there are definitely gracious hosts.

            What do you know about ? Been there already ? lol..

            Being honest my wife don’t like the japanese, it’s doctrinal in her education. I conviced her. I know once she saw the other side of the sea, she will face the truth. Japan is a great country.

          • Exman

            I fucking love cunts like you. You have a Chinese spouse yet you respect nothing of her country. Kill yourself, or come here to Australia, and I’ll show you just how much testosterone a Chinaman can have. When I slash your jugular and then extract your organs by hand. You deserve no less, for a racist, generalising, judgemental pig. The French are meant to be well mannered and well spoken, you sound like one of those racist bogans we have back here in Australia.

        • Exman

          Look, I admit that Chinese society needs serious help, but you mustn’t be so fucking rude in your views. Keep it in your own mind. Want a piece of mine? We were the worlds most wealthiest and one of the greatest powers, brought down by foreigners. Yes, Qing Dynasty, brought down by European powers, then all the World War II trouble with the Japanese which lead to Civil War afterwards and Cultural Revolution. You fuckwits have a HIGH standard of living and people because of your theft from other countries. You have made us this way, so you may as well either shut the fuck up or pay compensation for the dilution you have caused to our society.

      • Law

        A proof ?? Ok just google it to be sure I didnt copy:

        Je suis français, j’ai 25 ans, et j’ai décidé d’avertir les gens à propos de ce qu’est vraiment la Chine, si méconnue, j’aimerais les avertir à quel point votre peuple est sale, incivil, non éduqué, malpoli, brutal et souvent barbare. Mon histoire avec eux s’est installée par la force des choses, puisque j’ai trouvé une petite amie chinoise. Peu à peu, je tombais des nues quant à l’attitude et aux comportements de tout les chinois que je côtoyais, l’apothéose ayant été mon voyage à Shanghai ponctué de toutes sortes d’accrochages, puisque je ne me laisse pas faire, avec des gens plus proches de l’animal que de l’humain. Je manque de temps mais pas d’envie de vous détailler chaque épisode de mon expérience sur ce territoire infernal, un enfer qu’ils ont crée eux mêmes et qu’ils méritent.

  • Big Ears Tututoo.

    Why must Japanese and Chinese youths argue who’s best. Can’t we just all go to Whilster to ski and look at ski bunnies in cute little touques? Or move to Some sexy beach in California and look at girls in sleek surf suits?

  • kodi

    China is like 100 times the size of Japan and has many more natural resources 25 times the population and about 2% the creativity or innovation of Japan. If I was Chinese I would shy away from drawing attention to the fact that China is just now catching Japan in GDP, then compare side by side the quality of life in both Japan and China then you will see that China is still so Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar behind. Just by sheer population size and the fact that the government is able to acquire whatever it wants whenever it wants China should have passed Japan a long time ago. They are slacking if you ask me. They need to take part in a little less corruption and a lot more modernization of their society.

    • Exman

      2% Creativity? It’s there buddy, it’s all there. The government and society is suppressing people’s minds. The Beijing art scene is one of the best in Asia, we have Ai Weiwei, Cui Jian and other such radicals. And I must say Japan is a little too creative some times, some things there are just outside of moral boundaries…

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