Golden Retriever Dog Skinned Publicly On Street In Shanghai

Golden Retriever dog skinned publicly on a street in Shanghai.

From Sina:

Netizen captures man skinning golden retriever on the street, city residents one after another express condemnation

“Too cruel”, “too bloody”… Yesterday noon, accompanied by innumerable netizen condemnations, a “Golden Retriever Skinned On The Street” video spread online. Within the 5 minute video, a Golden Retriever over 1 meter long held by its neck was skinned on the street. When this reporter found Miss Zhang who had taken the video, she said this scene made her entire body tremble, prevented her from sleeping well, and that posting this video was to call for even more people to to take care of and treat well their pets.

A news report video: (dog’s body partially censored)

Note: You can watch the original 5 minute video here.

Golden Retriever dog skinned publicly on a street in Shanghai.

Comments from Sina:

新浪广东深圳手机用户:

Do people who wear fur products know how they are made? It’s peeled off alive! Does anyone think this is cruel?

新浪浙江丽水手机用户:

No matter what, just please treat animals well, okay? Don’t use the excuse that we are high-level animals so we can decide whether they live or die however we please. I imagine no one wants the one and only animal our children seen in their lives to be humans, right? If we continue to make this mistake, in the end, the ones we are harming are our descendants.

新浪天津手机用户:

Seeing someone kill a living thing, my heart is especially uncomfortable [saddened]. Hope when they are being killed, they can find it in their hearts to forgive this bloodthirsty human race!

新浪山东济南手机用户:

Actually, people these days are really such hypocrites, saying how sad it is when they see a dog die but when they see a person die, they all run far away. When an animal is hurt, they can spend money to get it medical treatment. When they see an elderly person who have fallen on the ground, they’ll dodge to a side. Treating animals well is a sign of people’s progress. Seeing a person get hurt yet refusing to do something is a sign of people’s regression.

新浪山西运城长枪:

Killing dogs or killing pigs is very normal. The news media these days have nothing better to do, and people [paying attention to this] have nothing better to do either.

A local security guard watches the man skin the Golden Retriever by the side of the road in Shanghai.A woman passing by stops to question the man skinning the Golden Retriever by the side of the road in Shanghai.

Comments from KDS:

梵 天:

To be honest, China not suffering a 2012 would be the real disaster.

大卫杜夫:

Someone is going to say, “How could Shanghainese be so cruel?”

FLY D:

This must be human flesh searched!

么想法了呀:

Waidi [non-locals, here non-Shanghainese] slaughtering and selling dog meat are even more frightening, a bunch of doggies all stuffed in cages, using tongs to pull out whichever one the customer sets their eyes on, beating their head with a metal club until it passes out and then drained of its blood from its neck, skinned, and gutted.

麻辣兔头:

Have those who eat cow meat [beef], sheep meat [mutton], pig meat [pork] thought about it before? What about those who wear fur products and down products? Are dogs deserving of sympathy but not other animals? The animal kingdom has carnivores and herbivores, and this is just the embodiment of a worker from a slaughterhouse.

瞎混混:

Very normal. Electricity bills jump 200% and there is no place to complain.
While killing a dog is [suddenly] a big deal.

[Note: Recently, many Shanghainese residents have noticed sharp increases in their electricity bills, with many suspecting that the electricity company is defrauding everyone. One woman shared the story of her boss's tenant, a foreigner, who saw his electricity bill jump from 1000 RMB per month to 5000 RMB. Many Shanghainese residents expressed hope that the foreigner will give their complaints against the electricity company more "force", encouraging him to appeal to Western media and his country's consulate/embassy.]

肏肏:

I won’t say anything, except to just watch your own dog, and not let it be captured or become a stray~

无聊的猪:

Certain hypocrites should go to the wet markets. How come you don’t go condemn those who kill chickens, ducks, and geese, those who kill fish and the link? How come you don’t go human flesh search them?
Do you wail at the sight of pig heads hung in front of the meat stalls?
Don’t take your personal preferences and impose them on others.
China has a tradition/history of eating dog meat.

39度7:

For such a behavior to actually appear on the streets of Shanghai, what a tragedy [embarrassment].

这样不好:

The mistake was brazenly doing this on the street. Even though I too have a pet dog, I don’t actually think there is anything wrong [with this].

盘子一吕炮:

From a legal perspective, there is nothing to comment on, especially if this dog is indeed first died before the owner abandoned or handed it over to this person to handle, then that would even more normal. After all, a pet is considered property, and how the owner chooses to handle his property is the owner’s right.

From Liba:

Even if the entire world abandons you , at least you have me. 55555555 [crying sound] I want to cry just looking at this

Saw this image on weibo [Sina or QQ microblog].
I admit I cry easily…哭

A photograph of a homeless man and his faithful golden retriever.

  • ##BlothaLonely##

    o yeah… so—faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • john digmeme

    Did a Shanghainese commenter honestly just call this guy Waidiren? Um, pretty sure I’ve seen another video right here on Chinasmack about dog killing in Shanghai. This seems to be a pretty common occurrence, and if anything, Shanghainese seem to be embracing this aspect of their culture – skinning a dog on a public street makes that plainly obvious. It appears to me that Shanghai is slowly getting ‘real’, commenters referring to others as WD are living in a fantasy.

    [Note from Fauna: Just because it happen in Shanghai does not mean the person is Shanghainese, right?]

    • b. prichard

      Sure, he may or may not be Shanghainese. But this internet poster has no reason to automatically assume that the guy skinning the dog is waidiren.

      I’ve certainly heard more than a few Shanghainese people instantly respond with “waidiren” anytime something unappealing happens in Shanghai, regardless of whether they are in any position to know.

      [Note from Fauna: I did not say this internet poster has a reason to assume the guy skinning to dog is waidiren. I just point out that john digmeme make the same mistake.]

      • mankouzanghua

        if some guy in NYC, London, Sydney, etc came out on the street and started skinning a large animal, wouldn’t you speculate that he was from out of town? i think i would.

        • john digmeme

          This is the second article about killing dogs in Shanghai – and lets be honest, Shanghai is not NYC, London or Sydney for obvious reasons (ProTip: NYC, London and Sydney are not in China)

          • mankouzanghua

            it’s the same idea. it’s not a normal thing in a location, even if you saw two news reports where it happened. (pro-tip: an analogy explains something with reference to something more familiar or easier to understand. it’s like a crutch — but i’ll say upfront, an analogy, unlike a crutch, is not corporeal!)

          • john digmeme

            New Yorker = American = Sterotypically does not eat dog meat
            Londoner = English = Sterotypically does not eat dog meat
            Sydneyite(?) = Australian = Sterotypically does not eat dog meat
            Shanghainese = Chinese = Stereotypically avid consumers of dog meat.

            I am fully aware of what an analogy is, what I meant with my last post is that the elements you use are not even analogous in the context in which you place them.

            Maybe you live in Shanghai and know that this doesn’t happen often; but, the rest of us out here in cyberspace, reading repeated articles related to dog killings in Shanghai might be led to believe differently. We may start to ask what the difference is between a WD who hangs a dog on a public telephone pole and skins it in plain view, and the hundreds of native Shanghainese who walk right past like its nothing unusual?

          • john digmeme

            P.S. Can’t believe I misspelled stereotypically three times in a row….

          • mankouzanghua

            if it happened often in shanghai it wouldn’t be news on kds, right?

            my analogy refers to skinning any large animal in this public way. i could be incorrect, but it’s my understanding that country people and city people tend to look at animals differently in China just like they do in the US, England, Australia (i.e., city: pets, interesting organisms; country: utility in the form of calories and labor)

          • john digmeme

            Then it certainly makes sense as you put it, I didn’t originally understand it that way. However, around here, if I saw someone skinning an animal on the street I would think them to have a mental issue (like the American man that f**ks pigs), not as a country bumpkin. In some western cultures, people use dogs to herd sheep for example, and the difference between pets and livestock is usually quite pronounced regardless of whether the person comes from the country or city.

            Due to the stereotypes, the media and the google searches for “dog meat shanghai” confirming their existence, that it seems hypocritical for a Shanghainese person to refer to another resident of the city as a Waidiren for killing a dog when I’m thinking, ‘haven’t you or someone you know eaten dog meat?’. It allows laowai like me to take the comment out of context, and makes Shanghainese lose face in our eyes for its unwarranted pretentiousness and condescension. Ironic, hey?

            [Note from Fauna: Shanghainese people know that some Chinese eat dog meat. Some Shanghainese people eat dog meat too. However, the KDS netizen is assuming the man is a waidiren because he believes Shanghainese people would not skin a dog on a public street. He is not saying the man is a waidiren because he thinks only waidiren eat dog meat.]

    • john digmeme

      Yes – just because it happened in Shanghai does not make this person Shanghainese. But, with the increasing regularity of these incidents, it certainly looks to be turning into Shanghai culture (at least from an outsiders perspective).

      [Note from Fauna: I do not think you can really say "increasing regularity". Vivian post photos of a dog being beaten to death last May. I post this video a few days ago. I can find animal abuse stories in many countries very easily but I do not think it is "increasing regularity". Also, skinning dead dogs on a public street is not becoming a part of Shanghai culture and eating dog meat has always been acceptable in China for many Chinese like in many Asia countries.]

  • Brett Hunan

    I love dogs, and I know this is pretty out there for being in the city, but where I lived it was common. Dogs, goats, pigs, sometimes even cows were killed and skinned in public.

    Did anyone ever read Ma Jian’s “The Noodle Maker”? The government used to commission this to citizens.

  • vince

    That is just sick…

    • Tommy

      I had a girlfriend with a golden retriever dog. Golden retrievers are considered one of best types of dogs to own. They are extremely sociable, they want to follow directions and they love people. Many breeds of dog are stupid rats, but golden retrievers…

      • mastersausage

        I second your sentiment about golden retrievers. They are intelligent and civil, and the best breeds. It’s unconscionable to subject a golden retriever to such “thousand cut” Chinese torture, or mistreatment of any kind. All people of the civilized world should loudly condemn such barbaric act by the Chinese.

        On the other hand, dogs of black or brown color are of a lower breed, they are violent savage beasts that will attack you in alleyways. Except a few domesticated ones, most of them can be eaten anyway the Chinese want.

        we shall joke about black dogs, the Chinese but under no circumstance, there should be any jokes about eating a golden one!

        • zagny

          that’s just wrong. sorry. i despise chihuahuas but i still would never, ever say that it is more ok to kill one type of dog over another. not all are equally smart, but if treated as they deserve dogs can be loyal and loving till the day they die. you can find that if (a lot of dogs) in a city are vicious and cruel to people it is most likely because they have met nothing but harm from humans since their birth, hence their reactions to people.

          no dog should be mistreated.

      • kissmyass

        yes but what if the dog is naturally died before skinning!!
        he is just in the wrong place to do the job
        otherwise i dont see any problems….
        recycling the hair!!!!

        • vince

          to each his own i guess, also ur an apathetic turd, peace!

        • http://www.lovelovechina.com Crystal

          If the dog died naturally, then it is stupid to try and consume it. How can you be sure it didn’t die of some disease that you won’t get by eating it?

        • shelby
  • Peasants…

    Still no hope for the drastically outdated countryside peasants in China to catch up with their more modern counterparts. At least they’re putting an emphasis on education and they’re getting wealthier so they’ll only have to wait another two or three generations before the rural peasants stop living in the middle ages.

    China would be better off if it weren’t such a large country. Places like Shanghai would have been better off as a nation state of its own.

    • Chad

      Oh shut it. There’s nothing wrong with eating dogs. To suggest that it reflects a lack of education is just sad. It’s just Western culture to look down on it and in turn East Asia of course is sadly brainwashed into suddenly thinking that eating dogs is wrong. Personally, I think it’s pathetic how China is all of a sudden sympathetic to dogs just because Westerners think so. I would never eat a dog, but the Chinese should learn to think for themselves and accept their culture.

      • kissmyass

        i am hungry already………

      • http://www.ethansenglishcafe.com Ethan

        There’ is nothing wrong with eating dog, butchering them int he street on the other hand… I would also consider butchering a sheep or a cow on the street to be a pretty messed up thing.

  • cdn icehole

    I have no problems with this as long the meat is to be consumed. However, I’m surprised that a Golden Retriever would make the cut as food. I was under the impression that only a certain breed of dog would be suitable for people.

    It would be in the best interest for the restaurant owner that his staff follow standard health codes when preparing food.

    And I thought PETA nut jobs only existed in The West.

    • Alikese

      Certain kinds of dogs are cheaper than others so they’re used more, but you could eat any of them. I heard a story yesterday that when Manny Paquiao was you they had to kill and eat their family dog to stave off starvation.

    • Bob

      PETA is more concerned with the trained goldfish magician.

      Just like in the US. they’re more interested in killing dogs than adopting them.

    • Rick in China

      “I have no problems with this as long the meat is to be consumed.” It must be a Canadian thing..that was my bro’s rule whenever I tagged along on a hunting trip.

      Still, it’s sad to see a beautiful animal and great pet be ripped apart on the street, regardless of the ‘logic’ behind it.

      • http://www.ethansenglishcafe.com Ethan

        Yeah, I see it like Dolphins, sure we COULD eat htem, but why? They are incredibly smart animals and there’s already so much meat out there of less intelligent animals whynot just eat them?

        • guizi

          Cultural understandings is difficult. I cannot tell you are trolling or actually asking for an answer. Perhaps you are trolling as your questions are like this. sorry no time to give you a long answer.

          smart? maybe we should eat corn, it has no brain. and we can save time to raise other animals.
          abundant? there is so much corn out there.

          • http://www.ethansenglishcafe.com Ethan

            I’m a vegetarian so I agree completely. Eat vegetables, leave the animals alone.

          • guizi

            Ethan.

            So this was a troll from a vegetarian. I was not expecting that.

            But sorry. I think you failed. You seemed to want to say that we all should eat vegetables, and the reason why we should do so is in my commnet as you agreed. But I dont think people will become vegetarian after reading my comment above.

        • http://thecapitalinthenorth.blogspot.com jixiang

          Are dogs considered to be any more intelligent than pigs or cows?

          • Kathleen Auclair

            More intelligent than YOU!

          • Jezebel

            Actually pigs ARE more intelligent than most dog breeds.

  • Tommy

    Now, that’s ruff!

    • Gut

      I wouldn’t want to see that view walking down the street. If I did no biggy…

      Side note – If anyone every says “ruff” the response should always be – “Just the way your mother likes it!”

      Not directed towards anyone. Thanks Tommy, your comment reminded me of this.

      • Tommy

        Just the way yo’ motha likes it!

      • Ethan JRT

        “No, not in the Rs.”
        “That’s not what your mother said last night, Trebek!”

    • diverdude

      lol (ruff) I never forget watching this dog restaurant guy dragging this dog off to the back of shop to butcher it. The dog had to be physically dragged by force (had a collar w/ lead around it’s neck) it was soooo scared ! I was very suprised to realize that the dog somehow instinctively knew what was about to happen to it.

      But, we are carnivores. We eat animal flesh~ gross, but there it is.

  • Cleo

    The Japanese did this to Chinese people but by using the animals is the only way China can express this without having to deal with Japanese politics. Think about it – who has time to do this and who would do this at this location.

    • Sunshine

      That’s an interesting notion.

      More background information needed to this story, please.

      I feel sick looking at the photos, though. I wish I wasn’t so curious :(

    • Bob

      Are you trying to say that this was a foreigner who just decided to slaughter a dog on the streets as a subversive plot? Got any good conspiracy theories to share?

      • mankouzanghua

        it’s my guess that Cleo was saying that the guy was imagining the dog was a japanese as he did it. Cleo has some issues with japanese, but we mostly learn to find entertainment value in these psychoanalytic rants.

  • Bob

    Better to train your dog to find you rabbits to eat than to eat a dog.

    You’ll get more meat out of training your dog than slaughtering it.

    Even so… the companionship of a dog, especially a golden retriever, is worth more than most human friends.

    • john digmeme

      Very astute observation, I didn’t even think about this – though in the city, I think your best bet is to train the dog to find weasels.

      • http://baihaifeng.blogspot.com Dr. Jones Jr.

        Weasels? Is there any city where weasels are a common urban pest? Try rats. Plenty of them in cities generally and Chinese cities specifically.

        • Kim

          I might have seen a weasel in Beijing today. Was definitely not a rat.

    • Heilong79

      your right, its out dated and unnecessary, esp such a large dog like a golden retriever, it seems to have lived long enough to have reached full size, its a horror to think if this dog was stolen or its owner chose to give it up and then it gets eaten. Also Shanghai people are no different than any other Chinese except for a little western influences and a bit of cash that went to their heads and blaming wai di ren or some outside element is always such an easy scapegoat rather than looking into the mirror facing up to the reality

  • john wayne

    WTF? I am really shocked that this is taking place in the big city. I can understand if the guy was out in the desolate countryside and was starving and had to eat because there was no food but this is flat out criminal abuse / cruelty.

  • Chef Rocco

    He might be one of those performance artists, when they feel bore, they tend to scare common people with their “arts”.

    • kissmyass

      hahaha,a very big chance!!! art or shit !!!who knows

  • dim mak

    That’s what meat looks like people, you eat it everyday. I don’t see why he has to do this in the middle of the street though.

  • eattot

    this dog is so big! maybe they steal dogs from other places.

  • China Minions

    Yummy, yummy. juicy dog meat hot pot !

  • Johnny Blaze

    Dang, this is making me hungry. Bring out the grill and buns and let’s have some dog burgers or some sloppy joe’s or taco’s too lol. What we call pets here is dinner there lol. Take that Peta!!! Can’t wait to go there and have more. Nothing like having some mut kabobs or Dog/Cat fried rice Yummy!!!!

  • LookiLoo

    I’m going to make the assumption that the man who did this was trying to make a point.

    Nobody ties up a dead dog on the sidewalk and skins it in public… This is not a case of harvesting meat, or getting its skin to make clothes, this is a statement… but a statement about what???

  • Of Canada

    Inflation must be getting out of control in China if people in “international” cities like Shanghai are resorting to eating stray dogs for meat again. Better raise the value of your RMB so people can afford quality meat again.

  • Irvin

    Not making a moral judgment here, just want to say on a personal level I found it very disturbing, it’s almost like watching the SAW series.

    I wished it was a Chihuahua and not a golden retriever.

  • bobiscool

    While I personally find eating dogs to be disgusting, I think it really isn’t that different from eating a pig or cow.

    Dogs aren’t somehow superior to other animals.

    The reason I find this disturbing is, because he did it in the streets of a large city. If you want to slaughter a dog, fine, but do it privately. Why do you have to force a bunch of innocent people which might very well include little children see such a bizzarre sight?

    I don’t think they should have the right to do this.

    • cdn icehole

      “I don’t think they should have the right to do this.”

      And you have the right to tell them otherwise? Did God descend from the Heavens and gave you a second set of commandments? Fuck! I despise PETA idiots. It’s a good thing that I live in the Prairies; otherwise, I’d be clubbin’ those baby seals.

  • Jmi

    plz tell me the dog was dead when he skinned it… i can’t believe someone would skinned a golden retriver.. they are the most friendly dog breed.. truly saddened me… what’s wrong with so many ppl in China?!

  • mankouzanghua

    western countries should get together and pressure china to have this man identified and punished. it’s the right thing to do, right?

  • Eidolon

    Feels very much like one of those weird and decadent “modern art” performances.

  • Dawei

    Well I have no objection to people eating any animal as long as its not an endangered species. In the west people eat beef, pork, chicken etc and no one except vegetarians get disturbed by this fact. To consume an animal that is considered a pet however would be considered highly disgusting. The more the emotional attachment the higher the disgust and so eating dog garners some of the highest while nibbling on a gold fish not so much one would suspect.

    Not so long ago keeping a family pet such as a dog was not so common in China. Now in the big cities it is widespread and some say there are too many pet dogs already. So Chinese are progressing along the familiar western pattern of emotionally separating pet species from food species.

    I do think the only people who can express against eating pets are vegetarians as the meat eaters already apply arbitratory emotional judgments on what animal should be eaten and what should not. Pigs are smarter than dogs for example but get little support, is that right?

    • mankouzanghua

      interesting and insightful comment. the emotional judgment, although arbitrary, is extremely strong, so people will still get up in arms about it even if they can’t articulate why.

      i’m not sure it has to do with emotional attachment to the animal, though, since i suspect that many people who don’t like dogs would also be very disgusted by the idea of eating one. contrast this with people who think live pigs are gross but still enjoy eating them. i guess it must have to do with, as you said, classifying dogs as pets.

    • Tope

      I think the point is more they don’t accept dog as a food source from the get go. Personally I could never eat dog because I have accepted dogs as a better source of companionship and work (sled pulling, herding etc.) than protein. However, I’ve raised goats and pigs who I was just as fond of as my dogs. I was able to slaughter and eat those because from the start I knew they would eventually be on my plate. I may have loved my goat Mittens dearly and cried the morning of her slaughter but she was very tasty in the end.

      I would say the key difference for many between dog and other meat sources is their INITIAL opinion of the dog. When you were a small child if mom said we’re having dog tonight you might never have thought that that was not a perfectly acceptable meat choice. Yes it was your pet and it is sad but it was never a “no-no”.

      The man’s poor choice was not in skinning his dog whether is died naturally or not (many natural causes of death are not transferable by ingestion,) but having done it in such a public place. I would never had slaughtered my animals in public, most people struggle with having known their food when it was living. Perhaps it is more a matter of desensitization? This video just put a concept in front of people who were not desensitized, maybe that is the difference.

  • raysimlee

    It seem that western human being is more outraged by the death of animal than brutal death of human being in the middle east. Human seem to be of lower priority than animal. OK animal do not talk back and will always be agreeable. They do not have alternate religion that contradict to its owner’s value nor believe. However affection, kindness compassion is better be universal – to all beings in the universal regardless. Brutality death and torture to any living being is not acceptable.

    • Guest

      You got it, that”s a good reason, animal can’t talk. And is all about how you people murder these animal’s , what a sort of human do this? I’ll say “beyond barbaric, may he rot in hell

  • raysimlee

    There is censorship running in this web page. I will only accept anti-Chinese comments. I post a few time of different opinion but got refused. This web site is a sham.

  • Johnny Blaze

    When the shit hits the fan here in the USA the family pet will become Tacos. Gotta eat my meat lol sorry pooch but you will be burgers before i go hungry. Real Talk

    • cdn icehole

      Highly unlikely. PETA will go militant and declare jihad on your ass. They will hunt down anyone who is sympathetic to meat loving people such as myself. The Sea Shepard incident with the Japanese whaling ship is just the beginning.

    • USA TODAY

      Johhny Blaze, NEVER & i hope you rot in HELL for that comment!

  • cdn icehole

    While on the topic of eating animals, have anyone ate a Panda?

    • Chef Rocco

      I wanted to, but since an arm of one friend of mine was almost tore apart by a panda in Chengdu Panda Breeding Centre when he patted on the lovely-looking bear’s back behind the iron bars, I have given up the idea.

      • Of Canada

        Chef Rocco can you tell us more about what happened? We went to the same place one winter and my mother in law and wife were sticking their arm through the bars to hand a panda some bamboo. Having worked in a zoo before I was pretty nervous and made sure to keep well away from those bars. Wild animals are dangerous and unpredictable no matter how “cute”. It’s dumb that they allow people to get that close to them that they can actually touch them.

        • Chef Rocco

          It happened about 8-9 years ago, one of my friends went too far, stuck his arm touching a panda’s back while it was chewing bamboo sitting very close the bars, the panda turned around and grabbed his arm, begun biting, it suddenly became a tug o’ war between five human beings and a bear for an arm, luckily, the panda gave up. We immediately drove back to a Chengdu hospital, otherwise my friend could have lost his arm. It was a traumatic experience for all the people in our group.

          I feel the panda center is quite irresponsible to allow visitors approach pandas, although i remember there were warning signs around. Pandas actually are no different from other bears, they are very dangerous to human, even more so with their cheating appearance of cuteness.

          • Of Canada

            Quite an experience! That’s a long drive to go all the way back to the Chengdu hospital with you arm a bloody mess. Was your friend Chinese or foreigner in China?

            About 2 years ago we were there big mother panda bear up against the bars as you described. . nobody around to supervise. . I don’t even remember seeing warning signs. Mother in law and wife grabbing branches and extending their arms into the cage to hand it to the bear. I”ll have to tell them your story as a warning in case they go back there. My Canadian friend got bit by one of the alpha monkeys on that famous monkey mountain near Chengdu. forget the name. . Wasn’t a deep wound though, luckily avoided infection/diseases.

          • Chef Rocco

            He is a local. I saw a video clip on youtube, same thing happened to other people though the guys were luckier to let go without injury.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tofIAnExhQ4

  • http://dead-cockroach.xanga.com/ DC

    This is why I don’t donate to China when they have earthquakes, landslides and floods.

    • Flea On A Drum

      It is astounding how many tens of thousands (millions?) of unwanted problem dogs fill shelters in the U.S., where it is illegal to kill, or eat a dog. Dogs now have more rights than people do and we should as well change out Pledge of Allegiance to: “One nation, under Dog, with liberty & justice for dogs.” It is sad to see that even China now has become so far removed from nature, food, & survival. Animals know to kill other animals. The animals being preyed on benefit from a ridding of the weak, strengthening the population. That’s nature, whether ya’ like it or not…

      • Curiosity #3

        Yes, that is nature as far as animals are concerned. But we are humans and can make choices. There are those among us – for example faithful Buddhists – who argue that *for humans* it is entirely wrong to kill an animal for the purpose of utility (eating, clothes etc.) You cannot escape your human ethical considerations by pointing to what animals do.
        As for your rant about dogs having more rights than humans in the US, please be serious. That is entirely untrue. Strictly speaking, dogs have no legal rights at all (except arguably, some very limited protections against abuse.)
        Fauna’s site sure is not for the faint of heart. I remember another post here a while ago about a dog that had apparently been severely tortured. It was perhaps the most disturbing piece of Internet “trivia” that I had ever seen. In comparison, if this Golden Retriever was dead before being skinned, I would say this incident was an offense to public manners, no more. If the animal was alive, it was a terrible crime, and in my opinion no different from doing the same to a human.
        I believe it was the Dalai Lama who said “You judge a country by how it treats its animals.” By this standard, most countries get very, very poor grades. When it comes to animals, we are all Nazis.

        • Flea On A Drum

          “I believe it was the Dalai Lama who said “You judge a country by how it treats its animals.””

          Dalai Lama is a ridiculous charlatan who has never worked a day in his life. He knows nothing about animals. He only wants political control so he can return Xinjiang to a backward theocracy (no, I am not a lover of CPC, either). He is also an incredibly bigoted individual, stating that non-religious people are inferior to those who embrace superstition by bowing down to him and other such con-artists…

          Animals are to be butchered. This can and should be dome in a painless manner, the animal should not suffer needlessly—I don’t think anyone has suggested such a thing, though it is true that some are not as concerned about this as they should be. The world is not perfect. Wasting huge numbers of perfectly good animal (which are going to be put to sleep anyway) while many unfortunates go hungry is immoral and improper.

          Poster, I ask you to think for yourself—do not let others take control of your mind.

          • Curiosity #3

            Flea, I am not going to argue with you about the Dalai Lama. It is not really important WHO said it but WHAT the quote said. I feel that cruelty against animals is just as bad as against people.
            To me, a society cannot be called civilized until it treats its animals with compassion. So there: are you going to insult me as well now?

      • http://www.facebook.com/jessica.reutiman Jessica Reutiman

        You are fucking retarded dude.

  • Placydica

    If it was a Cow no one would care.
    Cows get skinned on a daily basis (Where do you think leather comes from?)

    • WOW!!!!

      Yeah except in USA we don’t skin animals in public streets. No wonder the Japanese, cruel and barbaric as they have been, thought of Chinese as lower class.

      I could try to rationlize that this guy is fucked up in the head, and considering the population of China, there are sure to be some fucked up people. Still, to have this happen in public in Shnaghai, most ‘westernized city’ in China, tells me that China in general is a shit hole. Well, that and the numerous Chinese protitutes in the Bay Area….

      I have lost alot of respect for Chinese after seeing this public display.

      [Note from Fauna: This is silly. Should I lose a lot of respect for Americans after seeing this?]

      • Curiosity #3

        Perhaps your respect can be somewhat restored by looking at the many expressions of shock and unhappiness by the Chinese quoted here on this site. Chinese are just people like everyone else (and so, by the way, are the Japanese). The majority have a healthy sense of what is appropriate, what is right and what is wrong. Then there is the minority that doesn’t. Like everywhere else. The problem in China is that many decades of morally bankrupt and generally uncaring dictatorship have done away with much of civil society. The barbaric minority gets away with much more in China than in many other countries. These days, you can get in trouble with the authorities for coming to the defense of someone who is being attacked in the streets, or even reporting a wrong to them or trying to clear it up on your own (as was witnessed again recently in the context of child abductions where the authorities tried to suppress the parents of the children that had been abducted). China’s system of government is rotten to the core, it even counteracts morality itself. It is the cause of much of the barbarism that you see in that country. (By the way, just to clarify: I do not think that skinning a dead dog is such a horrible thing; it is just something that should not be done in public if you must)

  • BR

    That is a beautiful and touching picture of the panhandler hugging his dog. Of course, we want to treat animals with kindness, but no one(save Vegans or Vegetarians) complains when they are eating a pork chop, a steak or a chicken wing. Non-vegetarians, including myself, have no right to pass moral judgment on this act.

  • bando

    Skinning dogs in public. Shameless but not something new in china.

    Skinning it alive in public. Now that would make my blood boil.

    How about providing abit more information other than the breed of the animal (popular breed many would not think of killing)

  • Vivian

    Seriously what is wrong with people?!?
    Besides that man, I don’t get the pedestrians – who would ever approach them?
    I own a golden retriever. So this definitely upsets me on a personal level. :(
    People have got to learn to love all animals.

  • Fman

    There is a difference between “meat/farm” animals and companion animals, the problem is many Chinese seem unable or unwilling to realize this. I find in Asia (not only China although it is a prolific problem here) there is NO respect for nature specifically animals.

    • Kim

      What is the difference? Pigs are just as smart as, or smarter, than dogs, so it can’t be that. Who made the distinction that one should be eaten and the other shouldn’t be? Also, fish are both companion animals and “meat/farm” animals. I think people in the West seem unable or unwilling to realise that.
      The disturbing thing about this was that it was done in public. And in that it’s disturbing because people want to disassociate themselves from the food they’re eating. It’s not an animal it’s just meat, it’s not pig it’s pork, it’s not cow it’s beef, etc, etc. Don’t show me what it looks like to kill an animal, just serve it up on a platter.
      People have messed up attitudes with the food they eat.

      • cdn icehole

        “People have messed up attitudes with the food they eat.”

        +1 If they only knew what goes on in a slaughter house. For some stupid reason, people think that food magically appear on the super market shelves via some black box. Cow -> building -> beef.

    • guizi

      > in Asia (not only China although it is a prolific problem here) there is NO respect for nature specifically animals.

      Then how do you explain countries outside of asia such as America and Australia have been big polluters of the earth. Here I am talking about not only CO2 but also NOX and SOX, as some will say that global warming is a hoax.

  • Benni

    I can see both sides of this, I’ve always been brought up with dogs as pets. Just because I wouldn’t eat dog myself doesn’t mean I disapprove of it. However, I do strongly believe that just because you’re gonna eat an animal doesn’t mean it should suffer, it reminds me of the forklift incident in the US not that long ago. Even if it didn’t suffer, skinning an animal in public is kinda uncivilized and barbaric. People are ranting about westerners connections with dogs, but if you saw me dismembering a cow back home on the street, I’m sure someone would want to punch on with me.

  • dude

    This is some cruel, fucked up and repugnant shit. Fuck you for doing this to a dog.

  • martin

    All you pathetic idiots will get their come upance. Someone should skin anyone doing this or anyone apathetic to this. I hope you all get a nasty incurable cancer.

    • cdn icehole

      I hope you are the next victim of the Tally-Ban.

  • cathy

    My god people horrify me – I want to skin them and see how they f&**ing like it – I am so mad and horrified that this is real

  • Dan Danger

    This is in Shangahai, China’s jewel of the mainland. Simple, embarrassing barbarism. Who really cares what the GDP of China is since this is what is holding it all together. Ignorant savages. Thank goodness there are decent people here who are outraged, as they should be. Sadly the voice of reason in China is lost by the yells of the violent apes most of the time.

    [Note from Fauna: I have noticed that the voice of reason being lost by the yells of the violent apes is just as true for non-Chinese too. Don't you agree?]

    • http://thecapitalinthenorth.blogspot.com jixiang

      There are now animal right groups in mainland china. This was not true even 15 years ago. People’s ideas are falling more in line with Western standards all the time here in China. How easy it is to forget how low standards were in Europe even 60 years ago.

    • Kim

      Higher quality veal is the result of not feeding calves that well and letting them move as little as possible – moving means more blood travels to the muscles giving the meat an undesirable rose tinge. Not many people eat veal so that’s probably not the best example. The body clocks of chickens are messed around with (ie, not allowed to sleep) so that they’ll lay more eggs more often. Actually most poultry are fed so much that they can barely walk. Farm animals are kept on the brink of death and illness because healthy animals cost more and don’t necessarily mean more produce.
      I think it’s safe to say it’s not just Chinese people – we’re all barbaric and we’re all savages.

      • Chi Cheverra

        In the USA those practices would lead to closing, and seizure of business, and prison time for the owners.
        While I get culture differences, skinning a dog in public, is a bit over the top for internet consumption.
        Esp since it was not in a market.
        At one time I thought I would like to visit China, no more.
        For one, I would never know what I was being fed.
        Monkey is a delicacy in Vietnam, and different cultures desrve to be respected.
        As long as humans are not eaten, dead or alive.And sold for food.
        This is WAY over the top.

  • Ralf

    Fucking Assholes! Skin each other.

  • kate

    pretty f’d up.i thought meat dogs only include rottweilers or some unfortunate tempered dog.

  • Beryl

    fuckers need to be skinned alive himself

  • PALADIN

    typical for the subhuman chinks !

  • Amy (aka Isabelle)

    You chinese are so fucking disgusting, we should kill ALL OF YOU.

    [Note from Fauna: Please do not pretend to be multiple people.]

  • Isabelle (aka Amy)

    When I see this I totally understand why everyone in the world hate china and chinese people. They’re cruel, disgusting, dirty and nasty. The real cancer of the world.

    [Note from Fauna: Please do not pretend to be multiple people.]

  • Zelus et Radix

    Well, apart from the fact that it doesn’t look very hygienic, I see no difference with peeling off a chicken or a cow or a pig or a goat or a lamb or any other animals we Westerners eat. I hope all the alarmed people here are aware that the the animal (e.g. cow) must be killed, skinned and chopped in order to be eaten, aren’t they? Or you are one of those people who think meat just comes out of the freezer?

  • cantabileloves

    replying to 无聊的猪, of course nobody would care if a duck/chicken/pig is slaughtered. That’s because they are bred to be eaten whilst this golden retriever is BRED TO BE A PET. likewise, in some parts of the world whereby pigs are considered as pets, eating them will be inhumane and cruel. it depends how you see these animals – food, product, or pets. but in Shanghai, dogs are obviously treated as pets. so i don’t see how morally correct these slaughtering people can be. they’re cruel.

  • Airy

    The question priorities should goes like this
    1. why is it on the street?
    2. I just hope that it was dead before skinning. otherwise that guy should be shot……
    3. why is it a dog?

  • Tony

    This movie shows who the real foreign devils are!

  • theresa

    OMG we should do that to you also!

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