European-Chinese Couples: AJ and Natalie

Intercultural couple: AJ from China and Natalie from England.

AJ is from Beijing and Natalie is from England. They met on the streets of Beijing and tell their tale of how their love has led them to start a new life together. This 7-minute film explores their unique relationship, discovering each other’s culture, learning to trust one another, and has a touching ending as Natalie meets AJ’s parents during Chinese New Year.

We shot this in mid-January, probably the coldest period of Beijing. They actually live in Sweden now, and were visiting for Chinese New Year. Because of the style of documentary, we were really not sure what we’d be getting going into AJ’s parents home and I had no idea what their response would be to the questions I had AJ ask them. But I think their response speaks for itself.

All relationships must have compromises. When shooting, Natalie told me that it was quite like going through a big introspection; having to talk about all aspects of their relationship. Theirs is one with visa difficulties; Natalie is British but AJ can’t get a visa for England. Natalie would like to live in China, but AJ is quite reluctant to go back after living abroad for so long. So Sweden became a

sort of in-between for them. Either way, “where to live” is a common difficulty for intercultural relationships – but extended communication is one way they are able to find a solution.

One thing that is not in the film, but that we see a lot on the street, is that at the beginning AJ would always want to carry Natalie’s bag. AJ said, “It doesn’t matter if you are my girlfriend or my friend, I’ll say, ‘let me help you.’ She would say, “No, it’s my things, I can do it myself.’” AJ knows that Natalie’s culture makes her more independent than the Chinese girls he dated before. Natalie saw this as AJ being quite controlling in their relationship, but after some time she saw that this style was AJ’s way of caring and loving her. So now, if her bag is heavy, she’s quite happy to let AJ show his love.

Intercultural couple: AJ from China and Natalie from England.

This is part of a series of short documentary films about real-life European-Chinese couples conceived and produced for the Delegation of the European Union to China. View the other featured short films below:

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  • kfjdkj

    Sweet. Heart warming…

  • Gay Azn Boi

    Very cute video.

    Now I’m waiting to see all the comments by White guys saying Asian guys are stealing their women :p

    No but seriously, I think they are very cute together. I believe in many ways White/Asian couples are perfect, whether it’s between a White man/Asian woman, Asian man/White woman, White man/Asian man….etc. After all, you can’t spell Caucasian without Asian ;)

    Myself, I’m a gay Asian boy, and I’ve only ever dated White men.

    • mr.wiener

      Would you ever date another asian guy or a black guy, you ‘ol potato queen you?
      You are right about the ensuing shite storm of comments this will spark though. I’m going to buy an umbrella and some windex.

      • Gay Azn Boi

        Haha. Yeah, I’m a potato queen, and damn proud of it too. And no, I wouldn’t date anyone non-White. You can come up with all kinds of explanations (e.g. growing up in a predominately White neighbourhood, lack of fair representation of Asians in the media, brainwashed into hating my own race….blah blah blah) but at the end of the day, I like what I like, and I make NO apology. Period.

        :)

        • Yeah…brainwashed…..luckily you can’t concieve…more asian chicks for me!!

        • mr.wiener

          enjoy

        • I think the harsh comments towards you come from people who feel rejected! ^^

          • Gay Azn Boi

            I think so too.

      • Rick in China

        I don’t imagine many white guys would be angry about a white girl dating an Asian guy.. at least not people who travel in the slightest or are from coastal/bigger cities around the world. I can’t imagine anyone really caring..who do you expect the shite storm of comments to be from?

        • mr.wiener

          I was actually expecting Jennster and co. to start up on how ugly white chicks are and how could any Chinese man find them attractive. This would get the ball rolling and a free for all shite storm would have started.
          I’m really pleased this hasn’t happened. [yet!]

          • Rick in China

            Oh, I didn’t even imagine that scenario – altho now that I’m clear, tht’d be a really fun one to see :D

    • Super Bunny

      your more than disgusting! low dog~~~~

      • Gay Azn Boi

        Go away troll. And learn how to spell.

        • Super Bunny

          people as u make me sick.
          i treat people all the same,i scode at him often in fact,oh sorry, forget to tell u,he is a white guy with a huge cock what u dream of.

          • Gay Azn Boi

            I treat everybody the same way. It’s just that when it comes to dating, I will only date White men. And yes, I like White guys with big cocks.

            Problem?

          • LeilaM12

            Given how bad her English is, I’m curious where she is from. (Gender deduced from an older comment on not having to deal with men anymore). Gay Asian Boy: Enjoy the dick and ignore her. I think fetishes (aka ‘preferences’) are perfectly fine as long as they are not of the “Asian women are more likely to accept that I won’t let her work outside of the house” kind.

          • Super Bunny

            take a look around in china, most women work as donkey already.
            i am sure ur a very selfish man, no woman can get a bit from u,and maybe that’s the reason your still single.

          • 3ayo

            Interesting, you don’t like men of your own race? Not that I’m judging, just curious. I’m bisexual myself, but I couldn’t imagine not being attracted to men who look like me. Oh well, different strokes for different folks as the saying goes.

          • i’ve always been attracted to girls from different origins since childhood and i never found white women very attractive just like i remember an old asian friend of mine has never been attracted to asian girls, he told me he finds them unattractive.
            Then again perceptions may change overtime, for instance i’m now dating a white girl from Iraq and she is stunning! (i guess thanking america for the war in Iraq is unappropriate huh? :p )

          • Gay Azn Boi

            I think I made it very clear that I’m only attracted to White men. And once again, I make NO apology for that.

          • 3ayo

            That’s fine. I honestly could care less, and never expected an apology, seeing as I’m not a gay Asian who may take offense. I just found that interesting, and yeah I saw your other comment after I posted mine.

          • Yes problem….you need to broaden your horizons

          • Gay Azn Boi

            Why is that? Can you explain? I don’t understand….since I’m very happy with my White bf.

          • Guest

            Uhmm no, I don’t. Who are you to tell me I need to broaden my horizons?

          • Ummm…who are you to even be commenting on something that wasn’t even directed at you….I’m your local neighborhood friendly Spider Man ^_^

          • mr.wiener

            “Problem”?….nope competition methinks :)

        • linette lee

          請你寫中文.

      • the ace of books

        Oh, Eattot, what a disappointment :( Why you gotta hate?

        • Super Bunny

          r u gay too? if not, fk off! none ur business.
          if ur white, u should ask him to eat shit, maybe he is glad to listen to ur order as long as u let him fuck ur ass or fuck his ass.

          • the ace of books

            Whether I’m gay or not has nothing to do with the question. As for “none of my business” … well, hon, you must be new to the internet :)

            Anyway, I was just expressing disappointment at your sudden and vehement outburst of vitriol. I guess it’s been too long since I saw you post – I remember an Eattot full of merriment and gay (the other kind) naivete, who frolicked cheerily around cSmack, blurting out silly little irrelevancies whether they were called for or not. Ah, but I see those halcyon days are past – this Eattot has grown up, if not matured, and she must needs hide her slowly-boiling anger at the world under a new username, like her old medical mask.

            O well. Troll harder :D

          • mr.wiener

            Consider yourself part of the club. You have to be christened with a spray of Eattot’s saliva and gall.
            I’d wash that if I were you, it may stain.

          • the ace of books

            I was wondering what that burning sensation was…

          • SuperHappyCow

            Dude, Chinese girls are fucking hilarious.

            “maybe he is glad to listen to ur order as long as u let him fuck ur ass or fuck his ass.”

    • I say good luck to them and wish them a very happy life

    • I’m not gay and preferences are all fine and well….but you just have an insecure inferiority complex taken to another level

      • Gay Azn Boi

        Well, I disagree. Preferences are preferences. You can’t change who you like. I’m not insecure or anything.

        How would you like it if you find yourself attracted only to (insert race) people and you’re accused of having an inferiority complex?

      • or maybe he is from a more confident category of people and all of you are just nutcases trying psycoanalyse him to cover up your own insecurities? Let the poor guy shag who the hell he wants! i don’t understand what all this persecution is about

    • dim mak

      Why don’t you like Asian boys ;_;

      • Gay Azn Boi

        I just think White guys are sexier. Can’t help it.

      • Gay Azn Boi

        Also, generally speaking, White guys are bigger and have more muscles (at least the ones I’ve dated), which I like. I just feel more comfortable/secure with a White guy, especially when we’re cuddling, but with sex as well :p

        • dim mak

          >forever a twink

          Yeah.. same here :>

          • Gay Azn Boi

            Lol I’m 21 so pretty soon I will no longer qualify as a twink :(

            And what about yourself? How old are you? What kinda White guys do you like? Where do you live?

          • dim mak

            Early twenties, glad I still look like a teenager

            I live in Vancouver and I like all kinds of guys and gals :3

          • Gay Azn Boi

            So you’re bi?

            Cool. We’re both Canadians. I’m in Toronto :)

          • Chinese

            Bi? now the stereotype got strengthened.

    • I feel this is an incredibly racist perspective you harbor. Are you inferring all other combinations of races are inferior?

      • Gay Azn Boi

        Racist??? I simply stated that I date White men exclusively, and that makes me a racist?

        Please do not abuse the term “racist.” It is already greatly misunderstood and overused.

        • This following statement is what I’m making a reference to. YES I feel racist implications can be inferred from this statement of yours.

          “I believe in many ways White/Asian couples are perfect, whether it’s between a White man/Asian woman, Asian man/White woman, White man/Asian man….etc. After all, you can’t spell Caucasian without Asian ;)”

          Therefore I ask again, are you inferring all other combinations of races are inferior?

          • Brett

            G.A.B. was just focusing on those “combinations” because thats what this article is about and thats what he can relate to. He didnt say anything about other races being inferior, you did.

          • Gay Azn Boi

            Thank you!!!

    • elizabeth

      You don’t like Asian boys even though you are one. You must have wished you weren’t Asian.

      • Gay Azn Boi

        Oh please not this again…. -__-

      • mr.wiener

        Like likes , like like likes m’kay?

        • elizabeth

          South Park’s too outrageous for my liking. I prefer Tom and Jerry.

          • mr.wiener

            ………….[background noise , piano music and someone screaming like they are being fed into an electric pencil sharpener]

          • elizabeth

            You can be so funny sometimes it’s difficult to dislike you.

          • mr.wiener

            Try harder. It’s good to have goals :)

    • Brett

      I have Asian fever and I dont care who knows it. Asian girls are sexy as hell… Gay boy, who cares what others say, do what you want. Most people in the world would probably condemn you for only liking men, then they have the balls to condemn you for being attracted to a certain race’s men. You just cant catch a break dude. Sorry.

      • Gay Azn Boi

        You’re absolutely right. It’s hard enough for me as it is, I don’t need anymore shit from people. I like what I like. PERIOD.

  • a Villain

    Is this video available on any Chinese streaming sites? Cause Vimeo seems to be blocked from within China and it would be nice if Chinese people also had the chance to watch this.

    • LeilaM12

      Good point, especially as this is supposed to public diplomacy by the EU for China.

    • wahnwhaaa

      It’s all over 优酷,Just search “中欧合璧”,and there are other videos too

    • Kai

      If you’re in China, you’ll see the video through Youku. If you’re outside of China, the video embed is Vimeo.

  • Super Bunny

    so nice!

    not watch romance films for long long time,the scar of my first love hurts me so deep but i do like this.

    maybe we do not need dramatic start and crazy wild passion just common and real care and sincere.

    i dream of love all the time but one day i find out i am already too old so i choose to marry.

    • Super Bunny

      i also wanted to know how a woman can get a path of pure love can lead to marriage, sexy body with good face or just a rich daddy?
      i am also happy i do not have to deal with men any more.

      • linette lee

        But you are married. Your husband is a man. So you have to deal with a man. Not a chinese man but a white man. As long as he loves you and you two work hard to support each other and the family, it’s a good marriage. Lust dies, but love and support will last for a life time.

        • mr.wiener

          “Where is fancy bred[lust]? In the heart or in the head?”
          “Fancy is engendered within the eyes, once fancy’s fed then fancy dies”.

  • Cleo

    At first glance, she looks like Selma Blair but then she also looks slightly like Natalie Wood. I hope all NICE foreign women have positive experiences with Chinese women and if they marry, they don’t have to share the burden of discrimination.

    • Cleo

      I mean Chinese MEN – I make SO many typos when I comment on the internet – it’s like I have a brain tumor!

      • mr.wiener

        I’ve often suspected this of you too after reading your posts :) However I also hope “all NICE foreign women have positive experiences with Chinese women and if they marry, they don’t have to share the burden of discrimination.”…..kinda racy, but a worth sentiment indeed.

      • lonetrey / Dan

        Isn’t there an edit button for comments now? >_>

      • dim mak

        Judging by your other posts, you probably do have a brain tumor

        Get checked

      • the ace of books

        Oh, Cleo.

        Anyway, I like this comment either way you look at it – “nice foreign women having good experiences with Chinese wo/men.” Either one! But hell, why limit to nice foreign women? What about nice foreign men? Or non-nice foreign women? Or downright unpleasant foreign men (& women)? (Ehn, those I think we can leave by the wayside.)

        Anyway, a nice little sentiment :)

    • I really hope that all the nice foreign women do have positive experiences with Chinese women.

      • Kate

        When I was in korea I had some nice experiences with korean woman who are more open then one would think ^_^♥

      • mr.wiener

        …and film it and post it on line afterwards :P

      • SuperHappyCow

        And that all men, the world over, get to watch.

        Or is that not what you meant to say?

    • linette lee

      I hope nice foreign women have nice positive experiences with me chinese woman. I don’t want them to feel cheated. ;)

  • thmswhnr

    The documentary looks potentially interesting, but I was looking forward to the Mainland netizens’ commentary about how the mighty Chinese are conquering the global gene pool, one 老外美女 at a time.

    • JanMan

      You are a real sicko. Ain’t you not, have some more positive comment about their relationship instead of deliberatively trying to create some diatribes against the Chinese.

      • red scarf

        He does have a point there are the comments from the Chinese netizens.isn’t the point of chinasmack to post that is big on the internet in China and post on that they think?

        • GiannaFox

          No. It’s because these types of relationships are rare.

          • JDEast

            and there is a very short explanation for why they are rare!

          • red scarf

            Oh and do tell us then. I know quite a few Asian men – white women couple.

          • Lyly

            Maybe this is the case where you are from but don’t assume its like this everywhere else. Where I have lived (New Zealand and Australia) it is uncommon. I know this because I have an Asian man as a partner and we rarely ever see others “like us”.

          • JackieChun

            these relationships are rare because alot of Asian men don’t find long term relationships with white women attractive, alot of them don’t stay thin, they wear way too much makeup and they age very badly, white people look 10 to 20 years older than what an Asian does at the same age, most Asians also don’t want mixed babies, alot of Asian women don’t realize that until its too late

          • Whitegirl

            uhm excuse me !? you might be asian but you have no clue !!! i am just going to ignore your comments about white women becuase they are so false there is no point in addressing them but as for mixed kids,….. I have yet to meet an asian guy who DOES NOT want them !!

          • cc

            JackieChun has a very valid point, white woman when they hit 30 just begin to fall apart and turn into fat arsed slobs, unless that is, they have a few quid tucked away to buy all the keep me looking younger crap.

          • JackieChun

            I’ve been to plenty of baby showers, the mixed babies rarely get as much attention or smothering as an Asian or a White baby does

          • mr.wiener

            How is that even possible? Are you trying to tell me that people, family and friends of the parents, will shower less attention and praise on a baby, the only baby, at a baby shower because it is mixed!?!

            Sir, I believe you are talking through your sphincter..

          • linette lee

            In every race there are pretty and ugly people. Like asians, many white/black/spanish women and men are still very attractive even when they are 50 yr old.

            Mixed people are unique. Many of them are very pretty.

          • Zappa Frank

            booommm

          • moody

            You Sir obviously know very little and it shows.

            Asian women age way better than white women before they reach menopause, then, once menopause reached, in the blink of an eye the asian woman look a 105yo.

            open your eyes and look around you.

          • Alphy

            Alright I would agree it is kinda of rare, but all of my ex are white and I am Chinese.

      • thmswhnr

        You must be new here. Don’t worry, this isn’t some twisted fantasy of mine, but an allusion to a previous post titled “Chinese Encouraged to Emigrate to Defeat Foreigners”.

    • alien

      why is that? so everyone can forget manners and the environment? haha forget it bro

    • Alexander

      Can’t conquer any gene pool as long as the one child policy is still around…. it is estimated in the year 2050, 1/3 of China’s population will be age 60 or older…….

    • disqus_eg0xp3H1cG

      the gene pool is actually more potent if the mother was Chinese and not the father. Science…

  • elizabeth

    Natalie is so pretty. It would be awesome to have a sequel – them visiting Natalie’s parents during Thanksgiving and her parents’ responses. I wish them life-long happiness.

    • LeilaM12

      British people don’t do Thanksgiving.

    • She’s English. They don’t celebrate Thanksgiving.

      • elizabeth

        Thanks, skipped my mind she’s British. Just wrote what came first to mind, after Christmas, which some don’t consider worth celebrating :)

      • SuperHappyCow

        God damn, that’s hilarious.

    • DoublePanetrationBuckley

      She looks like a boy, no wonder she had to settle for 1 ugly mother. especially when his gene pool of a mother is a wonky-eyed minger.

      • GiannaFox

        She looks like a boy? Then you haven’t seen other western women. Get yourself a new pair of glasses.

      • linette lee

        Natalie is pretty. Nice face and body. She is so cute. Nice voice too.

      • mr.wiener

        Jealous much?

  • andy

    white guys arent nearly so insecure. Good luck to these two!

  • Akhemu

    the shots are nice the quality, its pleasing to look at. it has a bit of the sepia tone all over it. how will they carry it out into documentary manner? so far its more like a movie. like watching a moving figures on papyrus or old scroll.

  • 5000 years of history…

    He’s traitor! She must be happy with a small penis.

    • you are an idiot and you have penis envy you low life

    • themig

      yep thats right its his contribution to ethnic cleansing of whities. reminds me of my youth

    • LeilaM12

      Treason on Chinese vagina?! Also: There is already a shortage of Chinese women. You should thank him.

    • I imagine youre a foreigner pretending to be a chinese person. how can you watch such a nice video and think these kinds of things? Shes dating him and met his parents, clearly she’s happy with his cock.

    • Rainer

      Gee the “small penis” again!
      As it was you who initiated the funny topic, I’d like to tell you Natalie actually feel lucky about finally finding a way not to end up with a loose pussy in a single year, like all her female folks. :)

      • Good retort! I guess there’s always a silver lining.

    • Gay Azn Boi

      Ah…….here we go again……..the small penis stereotype for Asian men.

      Notwithstanding that I’m responding to an obvious troll, there is something I need to say about this topic.

      I’m an Asian boy, I have a small penis, and I’m very comfortable with it. I’ve never had the thought that my penis was inadequate. My bf, who is White, has a much larger penis than mine. But since I always take the bottom role (being penetrated) when I have sex with him, it works out perfectly. I never top, so having a huge penis is of no use to me.

      My point is that whatever stereotype is associated with your race (positive or negative), take it with a grain of salt. You don’t need to take pride in it, but you certainly don’t need to feel ashamed.

  • Lucy

    I know that there are insecure guys on both sides of the fence, but why are Asian, and particularly Asian-American men so much more insecure about interracial dating than White men?

    Most White guys I know are happy for a couple if it’s an Asian guy with a White woman.

    Whereas I know Asian guys who will try to actively sabotage a relationship between a White guy and an Asian girl (I’m an Asian girl myself).

    • That’s precisely right. I have the same observation. Which is what makes snaps like the one made by Gay Azn Boi on this story seem an awful lot like psychological projection.

    • linette lee

      The Chinese guys around me prefer to date russian girls and white spanish girls. How come?

      There are a lot of chinese female with white male couples I see. I am beginning to see more white spanish girls with chinese boys couples and are getting common.

      • lol! Date Russians? haha! Well from my experience of China. Chinese guys “date” Russians because those girl usually are poor, and come to China often to work in the night club industry (with extra services if you get my meaning) I met a group of Russian dancers in a shithole city in Jiangsu province (the kind you might think “traditional” but also the kind where illegal stuff is more tolerated than in biggers cities like Shanghai) and Chinese guys treated these girls barely better than the way they treat KTV girls (or hookers). When i got into this shit bar in that shithole city, after overcoming the shock of seeing other white people there, i soon realised that those girls were working there as performers and i could very well understand why those Chinese men who are more used to “buying” girls rather than trying to seduce them would find them attractive: they are not Chinese, they are available for a fee and i must admit some of them are fuc*ing stunning!

        • Rick in China

          I think you’re speculating and maybe a little too much. Actually, Russia and China are a good match for white women/asian guys – namely, Russia has a shortage of men. China has a shortage of diversity and females are often much more ‘requiring’ of a man to put his balls in their handbag, while they carry it..plus, they’re neighbours, so it’s not so inconvenient logistically – it’s bound to happen.

          • ah sure, totally agree on that….it’s not like i’m against it or anything. It’s just a specific memory that i mentioned and some general impression based on what i’ve seen :)

          • dk2020

            What about Central Asian countries like Kazakhstan? I can definitely see the mix of Russian and Chinese in the people ..

        • GiannaFox

          Wow, and you know absolutely the entire Russian female population. Please, get out in the world more and read less propaganda shit online.

          • What’s this extra sensivity here? . I did make a big generalization about Russian girls in working in night clubs in China, sorry if that seemed offensive, i didn’t mean it in a downlooking way. However before you tell me to travel more maybe you should have read the line where i mentioned i actually met these girls in real…i didn’t fantasize it on the internet.

          • GiannaFox

            Dude, Of course I am sensitive, because I am partly Russian myself. I don’t know where you went in Russia or with what kind of people you surrounded yourself, but making such generalizations is too much. Russia is huge, and it has a huge female population. Even though I personally don’t have a good opinion about Russian women in general, must admit, I also think that you putting them all in one box isn’t fair either. It’s just not fair, man, not fair. I am not saying that you are lying, because that was obviously YOUR experience with them, but generalizing them is just not fair, man.

          • fabulous

            Partly Russian? ha.
            Perfect excuse then.

          • GiannaFox

            …………you’re lame. you sure as hell found ONE little part of my whole comment to pick on, and that is the most unimportant one. fuck off.

          • fabulous

            Ms Fox. I think you have me confused with someone you have talked to before.

            The point of my comment (by the way, I’m fabulous) was that your excuse for extra sensitivity was weak to the point of being funny.

          • GiannaFox

            ms fabulous, i think you completely misread my earlier comment. you missed the part where i said that you picked on an unimportant point of my comment, be it funny to you or not. keep your sarcasm/irony to yourself, it is not necessary, nor needed.

          • fabulous

            Ms Fox. I don’t think a person’s motivation for ever-increasing indignation is an unimportant element in a comment.

            I don’t think I misunderstood. You said that you are part-Russian, implying that you don’t consider yourself Russian first-and-foremost. Mr Gogodancer made a comment from his own experience which you interpreted through your own schema, instead of reading it properly or putting it into context. Using your limited connection to the original comment as a justification for righteous anger. Following this line of logic I will be busy getting outraged about any comments which contain Irish, Scottish, Portuguese, English, homosexual, agricultural, multiracial, interracial, scientific, mathematical, educational, football or Kiwi content. You’ve either set an exhausting precedent or you’ve become a caricature of people who seek justification for unleashing their pent up frustration.

          • Hey, you obviously didn’t read my comment…i said i met those girls IN CHINA! And i’m very respectul of girls..i don’t view woman like a commodity…i just described a scene i witnessed in China. And i never said ALL Russian woman as in “in the whole world” i said those i saw coming to China and working in the night clubs and even though i admited to a generalisation in my previous comment as an apology i did in fact categorize quite a bit, i said: Russian+Poor+China+Nightclub ….obviously i wasn’t talking about all the Russian girls who don’t correspond to these criteria. Anyway.. i still apologize and i’ll try to be EXTRA carefull with words in the future!

          • Periandros

            It’s true there’s a fair amount of Russian prostitutes in China. In fact there’s a lot of prostitutes in general in China, as well as developed South Korea too. In fact something like 1/4 of all South Korean married men admit to regularly visiting brothels with their friends.

            So much for that Nice Guy(tm) image that Asian-American men like to push of themselves and blame for their failings with white and other women.

        • BigCAD

          Same story Hangzhou’s dirty corner Xiaoshan.

    • DisqusUsername

      Because Asian woman are considered attractive by everyone. Asian men aren’t desirable in the western world. Speaking in generalities, White guys and Black guys think Asian girls are attractive; White girls and Black girls don’t think Asian guys are attractive, so its not the same relationship. Just consider what that does to your perception of self worth: an Asian guy see a lot of Asian girls and White/Black guys hooking up, but not a lot of the reverse. So that obviously makes them a bit more hostile towards the idea of interracial dating because they’re not in the picture. Then, you’ll start to see some Asian guys feel a certain way when they see an Asian girl with a non-Asian guy- namely insecurity and jealousy.

      That’s my perspective as an Asian American guy anyway. You did nothing wrong; its all on the Asian guys to get over their jealousy.

      • I think this video is a great way to show what an interracial relationship is like. As far as everyone thinking asian women are attractive, it’s not exactly true. I live in CA with the highest concentration of asian people in the entire USA and a lot of people I know don’t think asian girls are attractive at all. In fact, it’s usually seen as weird to date an asian girl most of the time. People usually just assume it’s out of some fetish or stereotyping, even when that is not the case at all. I’ve only dated 2 in my entire life as it was bound to happen living here, but just dating those two earned me the stigma of ONLY liking asian girls even though that’s not the case at all. I’ve dated nearly every race there is, but once you date an asian girl that’s it – you suddenly only like asian girls. I’m glad this video can show a human side to dating outside of your race. More people should do it, and if they do, they should do it for genuine reasons like the parents were talking about. I actually get kind of annoyed seeing people date INSIDE their race as we live in 2012 and by now you should have the balls to get out of your little bubble and mix a little. I’ve also seen people date interracially for completely ignorant reasons. Usually black males and asian females are on the short end of the stick in that regard as they are constantly stereotyped and fetishized, but I’ve also seen couples like the one in this video who purely care about each other regardless of race and stereotypes. That’s how it should be.

        • ASDF

          Asians are too pedamorphic, Blacks are too peramorphic, Whites are somewhere in between.

          • Jennster

            I find Whites the most peramorphic but it could be what they eat.

            For blacks, they have nice smooth skin, but i am not from USA so I wouldn’t know what african americans look like.

            For asians, it depends on perception. Peramorphic people might think asians look young. But asians tend to think whites look old.

            p.s. i look 5 -7 years younger than my real age no joke :D

          • mr.wiener

            Jennster hon, you’re not just pedamorphic, you’re pedantic :)

          • Jahar

            I agree with ASDF. Asians tend to age slowly( in the beginning), blacks tend to mature physically quickly, and whites are in the middle. Look at Greg Oden and Lebron James. they looked like they were 30 when they were in High school.

          • Jennster

            I’ve seen plenty of Whites that look 40 when i heard say they are 28-9. Maybe these are of the British stock (from NZ, Australia, UK, USA)? They go downhill after 25 years on average. But not so much for the whites coming from colder climates. I don’t have much exposure to blacks sorry.

          • DavidisDawei

            Jen,
            Sun damage, being over weight, smoking, drinking (booze) all contribute to looking older than your actual years. Genetics also play a role.

          • mr.wiener

            Could be living in the tropics, higher humidity perhaps? I’m in my late 40’s and apparently I look like I’m in my mid 30’s [you may snort derisively now].
            False modesty apart ,all my sibs back in oz really do look their age. The dry hot climate there really gives you skin like a crocodile handbag as you get older.
            Make no never mind to me. I like being older.

          • DavidisDawei

            Post a recent photo Wiener – put Kate to shame

          • mr.wiener

            Hard to beat Kate, she’s a looker. But here goes nothing…

          • DavidisDawei

            I was expecting the guy with pins in his face – isn’t that your old avatar?

          • mr.wiener

            ’twas me from several halloweens ago. How the hell do you put an avatar in disqus anyway?

          • DavidisDawei

            If you have it saved as an image, you should be able to upload as you would your photo when you log into discus – yes?

          • linette lee

            Is that really you?

          • SuperHappyCow

            That’s fucking bullshit. I know lots of towering white kids in highschool that could hookup with women in their late 20’s because of their age, while all the black guys I know are shorter than my 6’2. Silly motherfucker.

          • Jahar

            Blacks tend to look like men at a younger age(to me). How is that bullshit? If
            you disagree with me, fine, but if you want to get in a childish
            insulting mach, then, I said nothing about height. Learn to read retard. And how does being able to hook up with women because of their age mean anything? I can hook up with women because of my age too. Your logic sucks. For some reason in your pea sized brain being tall is an age.

          • SuperHappyCow

            “blacks tend to mature physically quickly”

            No, let ME apologize to YOU for attempting to read YOUR poorly constructed post. Did it ever cross your pea sized brain that the only black people that stand out to you are the ones you think look older than they are, and that you’re just projecting your 1950’s era pseudo intellectual racial “science” bullshit onto other people?

            If that’s not the case, please, do inform me on how you went about discovering the ages of all those “more mature” looking blacks, and comparing your findings to how old your dumbass thought they were.

            If you can’t please be so kind as to shut the fuck up, you twat.

          • Jahar

            That doesn’t make any sense at all. yeah I only see mature looking black people? Just like I only see younger looking Asians, right? Asians often think white people are older than they are too. Does this also greatly offend you? Also, I fail to see what bothers you so much about this.

            I’m not projecting anything on to anyone. I’m giving my opinion. And I
            don’t think it’s that uncommon. And I’m not pushing for anyone to agree with me.

            As for how I find out how old people are, I tend to go with the classic, “how old are you”, or, just guess, based on them being in my school. Usually high school students are 16-18, and uni students are 18-21. Not that tough to do.

            Keep it up with the name calling though, I’m sure your mom would be proud. And if you’re going to talk about my “poorly constructed post”, try a little harder to use somewhat decent grammar. Do you mean ” your dumb ass?” because I don’t have a dumbass. Or did you want to call me a dumbass?

          • SuperHappyCow

            You’re a dumbass making dumbass comments about YOUR dumbass opinions. I’m sorry, but my typing is pretty goddamn clear.

          • Jahar

            “You are a dumbass” “You have a dumb ass”. Huge difference. This post is better. Anyway, I’ve been reading as much as I can online on the subject, and it’s pretty hard to find anything concrete. But what I have found points out that generally, black people reach puberty at an earlier age, Asians at a later, and whites in the middle. These things are hard to quantify, of course, because of all the other factors involved. I still don’t know why it’s so touchy for you.

          • SuperHappyCow

            It’s not touchy, it’s just bullshit propaganda, and a persistent attempt to make the claim that “oh, black kids are violent, and scary” whereas “asians are nice pacifists.”

            But when you saw that video of a bunch of Asian kids beating up another, and tons and tons of people completely skipped the racial speculation phase and immediately jumped to the conclusion that they were “violent, deadly, dangerous” blacks, you never made a connection with your ridiculous preconceptions about MASSIVE, DIVERSE GROUPS OF PEOPLE.

            That’s why YOU are a fucking moron. Stop posting, thanks.

        • GiannaFox

          People date within their race because that is their preference. You can’t just come out and make them feel guilty for dating their own race…And there are plenty attractive Asian women out there, especially in Asia. Maybe the ones over there in L.A. aren’t all that because they have been sculpted by Western standards, different diet, etc etc. that makes them look more rough around edges, who knows. But you can’t say that they aren’t attractive as a whole. I don’t know, my opinion.

        • linette lee

          true, Chinese girls are boring. They all have that same hair style, make up, skinny body, and oval face. Same style.

          These are some no-name models. They are not popular, but in general, they all look the same. So many of them. They are everywhere.

          http://www.gossipgamers.com/booming-chinese-games-market-revenue-predicted-to-reach-38-billion-by-new-year/

          http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_DZed4YY5w04/SJwoDQ-O3oI/AAAAAAAAB1k/GbBrHaqB2Sk/s400/elanne00723969.jpg

          • SuperHappyCow

            What the fuck? How can anyone take that comment seriously?

          • Jennster

            Do foreigners watch fei cheng wu rao and bai li tiao yi etc?

            Just wondering, do american chinese look like these girls/guys in the videos below or different? Bai li tiao yi/shui neng bai l itiao yi are the shanghai based versions of matchmaking shows.


            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWxi-1qqoXc

          • linette lee

            I don’t know what the other american chinese watch. Most people watch on their own computer. As for me I only watch Hk, UsA, and some taiwan tv and movies. I don’t watch china tv but some china movies are pretty good like those directed by Zhang Yimou . When I go to chinese stores they all watch hk TVB channels.

            These guys and girls look nice. They dress more “Asian” style. They look stylish in an Asian way. It’s very asian I guess.

            The american chinese dress more casual like gap, abercrombie fitch , ralph lauren, banana republic, DKNY, nautica, north face. They love LV and coach bags.

            I love ralph lauren sweaters. I like victoria secret tops. I like the jeans and pants from gap.

            What do you like?

          • MrT

            Piggy eyes in Honk Kong

        • SuperHappyCow

          True that, homie. I agree with all of that except for the dating within races bit. People should date whoever they want to. Criticisms for dating outside of ones race are silly, however.

          My friends often used to make fun of me for liking ALL asian girls a lot. So if there’s a Japanese or Korean chick nearby I’d get shit. Some friends even made fun of me for living in Korea Town, but it’s silly, because I’ve pursued mostly African/Black women, and only ended up dating a couple of Taiwanese girls. That’s it. Of all the girls I’ve been after that’s only two out of some 10+, but apparently I still have a fetish for all asian women.

          • dk2020

            Are you black? You grew up in LA?

          • SuperHappyCow

            Yes, no. I grew up in New York, but live in LA. I dated a Taiwanese woman(10 years older than me, and goddamn sexy), who introduced me to sex, which is essentially the only reason I’m interested in, or attracted to Chinese or Taiwanese girls. Never been into Korean or Japanese women any more than I am any other girl at all. The only women right now that stand out in my head that I’m attracted to, is this dark skinned Chinese girl that I know peripherally, and this incredibly sexy and thick(NOT FAT), black woman I saw on the train weeks ago. Nothing particularly racial.

      • Indeed, the problem is that there isn’t much going both ways. However i’m suprised that this insecurity also afflicts American Chinese..i mean, i’ve worked in China for a few years and the American Chinese i encountered looked fine, i could understand white girls not liking Chinese locals because most of them don’t fuc*ing take care of their appearance but American Chinese look fit, and dress alright (i mean, compared to the Chinese :p everything is relative :p )

        • Kai

          What we’re attracted to is not just shaped by how the other person looks or dresses, but what we’re socialized to find attractive.

          • Rick in China

            I don’t think that’s true. There are way too many instances against your point of “socialized to find attractive”, and I think that it’s also evidenced by beauty traversing cultures in so so many regards just out of what can only otherwise be described as natural attraction. I think the whole “socialized to find attractive” may have been the mainstream case at one point, but let me give you one very big example of why that’s not the case now: Gays. Gay people were socially taught it’s wrong and their instinctual attraction was absolutely immoral and unacceptable – yet they triumph, and it’s becoming more and more acceptable to like who you like for whatever reason you like them without modern society saying “you’re a fucking heathen”..while those people still *do* exist, they don’t seem to have a huge impact on what the people involved in the relationships continue to be attracted to.

          • Kai

            I said “not just”. I think our conceptions of beauty and desirability being in large part socialized by pop culture and the prevailing social norms of our times is definitely and undeniably true.

            Why did many Chinese people at one point in time think bound feet were sexy? Why do a lot of Japanese men find girls with crooked teeth cute? Why do so many men today prefer shaved over hairy bushes? Why is there such a thing as being “fashionable” and being “unfashionable?” When did the tanned look become hot?

            I think you’d agree with me here. I didn’t say socialization trumps everything all the time. We can be bombarded with advertisements and media that says seafood is delicious yet still find the taste unpalatable to ourselves. There is nature and nurture. I was responding to Gordon’s surprise by why many Chinese-Americans are also afflicted by insecurities of this type (if not, in my opinion, more so), and much of the phenomenon is meaningfully related to the place of Asian males and females in mainstream Western media and thus socialization (see my other longer comment here).

          • Periandros

            No Kai. Endogamy is a phenomenon observable in all mammals, if anything, Western media is far less the narcissistic circle-jerk that East Asian media is (look at any historically themed East Asian film outside of say, Japan, which admittedly is capable of introspection).

          • Kai

            No Kai what? What part of my comment is false (or disagreeable) to you? How does endogamy weaken my points instead of strengthen it?

            Your characterization of East Asian media relative to Western media strikes me as irrelevant to what I’m talking about.

          • Periandros

            Endogamy is important because it undermines your whole “everything is learned” argument.

            Fact is, majority of Asian women prefer Asian men. What these arguments really boil down is the butthurt about not being able to get WHITE women, it’s very rarely about not being able to get Asian women.

            The reality is, white guys are just a convenient scapegoat for how otherwise unattractive/unlikeable asian men don’t have girlfriends.

          • Kai

            I never argued “everything is learned”. Your inability to read undermines your attempt to undermine my argument.

        • Jennster

          ABCs have better clothing style but worser features imo. China Chinese dress really bad (generally speaking) but has nicer features.

          Hmmm, take this Beijing dude in this video for example:

      • TrickyNishidake

        Asian men are also shown to be effeminate, asexual, greasy, short, nerdy, or a combination of those on the majority of Western media. Quite honestly, I don’t think most of us are really helping to change those notions. Blame culture.

        I don’t think there’s a inferiority complex in Asia, but there is in North America.

        • Gay Azn Boi

          Hmm. I don’t understand what’s wrong with being feminine (gay or straight). I’m one of those effeminate (gay) guys, but I’m not flamboyant or anything. I take a lot of shit from people as a result. It pisses me the fuck off.

          • Kai

            Just like you simply prefer white guys, some people simply prefer men to be “masculine” (according to the definition they’re raised with).

          • TrickyNishidake

            Nothing is wrong. But it tends to go against what is considered to be attractive.

        • Periandros

          >Asian men are also shown to be effeminate, asexual, greasy, short, nerdy

          They really aren’t you know. The overriding ‘stereotype’ if there is one is of a martial artist. The geek image thing is applicable to both Whites and Asians fairly equally in popular media.

      • Yesway

        There are quite some Western girls who think Asian guys very attractive. Especially with the advent of asian pop culture in western countries, their number has been steadily growing. And not all white men are happy when Asian guys date white girls, because it undermines their idea of being universally desirable.

        • Jennster

          e.g. son dong woon from b2st (best looking guy i’ve ever seen imo).

        • Periandros

          >it undermines their idea of being universally desirable.

          I don’t think we believe we’re ‘universally desirable’, but we certainly believe we’re far more desirable on average to our women. I’d say dating statistics bear this out.

          • Yesway

            White men used to travel more and had more opportunities to meet women from other countries. Women who date guys from another group usually get more flack from their own group than guys.

            However, women are catching up and caring less and less about this, while also having more opportunities to meet guys from other countries.

            Know Asian guys that have plenty of non-Asian girls adore and date them. They just have the right (cool with life, not complaining) attitude.

        • JankyFosci

          I’ve noticed this as well. YOUNG women are very into asian culture, namely korean music and japanese pop culture. It’s becoming huge in Europe and South America and is reasonably large in the US too though it’s still more of a cult following there. A surprising # of girls i knew in high school ended up going to S. Korea to “teach english” and ended up dating korean guys there. Girls that I never expected to be into asians.

          • linette lee

            Really? That is strange. I live in USA for many years and I watch USA television and movies all the time. The Americans don’t know anything about japan or korea pop culture. You will not see korean and japanese celebrities on NBC television and extremely few in hollywood. Where you get this idea from? From Youtube?

            I do see American born japanese or American born koreans extremely into their own pop culture and that’s about it. And let me tell you….they are crazy obsessive house wives and teenagers. Like those crazy American teenagers obsessed over justin bieber and one direction. MY lord.

          • JankyFosci

            … if I said it’s a cult following in the US, why would I imply that they are going to be in Hollywood or on NBC. The USA is not part of Europe and South America. /facepalm

      • Periandros

        No DisqusUsername: Undesirable Asian Men are considered undesirable by everyone. Asian men in general are considered more desirable by Asian females. just like White men in general are considered more desirable by White females.

        All peoples are endogamous. Lots of people are undesirable. Undesirable Asian-American males just use postcolonial verbiage to explain away why nobody wants to date them. Undesirable white males do not have this luxury, they can’t blanket-blame an entire race for the fact girls don’t want them, so I feel more sorry for them than I do Asian Males to be honest, who seem to act like entitled brats half the time when it comes to dating.

        However, I’m sure somewhere out there, there’s at least a few Asian-American males who don’t like being lumped into this whole “We’re losers with an identity politics axe to grind” thing Asian Males have created.

        • Web_of_Lies

          Edit: Oops, got the terms endogamous and endogenous mixed up. Oh well, too lazy to fix my post!

          If you meant culturally endogamous, I can see your point. However if you meant people are racially endogamous, then what you’re stating is way off base and not true. People do not inherently give preference solely on race. It really depends on cultural, environment and media exposure they’ve been acclimated to. I’m a prime example of that. I grew up in a small town full of White people and as such only found White woman attractive until my parents moved to the city where I had more exposure to different cultures and races. So it`s no surprise Asian Americans that grew up and only been exposed to White culture prefers their partner to be White.

          I do agree with your statement that Asian males need to stop the blame game. I don`t believe Western media has intentionally vilified Asian males, after all Asian males would be equally to blame for taking on these roles in films.

          • Periandros

            >way off base and not true

            Except it is true. Even when controlling for other variables, endogamy is observed in mammals at a subspecies level including humans as a preference, generally speaking. I wish I had the citation to hand, but I’ll hunt around for it.

            It’s amazing that people still believe that everything is culturally conditioned, or at least, everything that may sit uneasily with them is culturally conditioned. Liberalism is just as against science as christian fundamentalism when it goes against its tenets (egalitarianism) I suppose.

          • Web_of_Lies

            So you are saying that humans inherently show preference to each other based on phenotypes that only account for a fraction of a percentage of our DNA and which have only diverged perhaps a couple hundred thousand years ago? Empirically, you can look around and see that is not true. This racial tribalism that you’ve stated in another post is derived from centuries of, dare I say it, cultural superiority.

            Check up Jared Diamond, he’s was a believer in cultural and geographical determinism.

          • Periandros

            >that only account for a fraction of a percentage of our DNA

            This is a red herring, we share 98% of our DNA with chimps. Small differences can reproduce huge results, which is why absolute DNA differential at a base level isn’t used to assess genetic distance, the Fixation Index is.

            >which have only diverged perhaps a couple hundred thousand years ago?

            The claim that there has not been enough time for evolution to act on non-superficial traits is not scientific. First because nonsuperficial traits take no more time to evolve than superficial traits. More importantly, reasonable selection parameters allow for significant differences to arise between populations in 100 years, much less 100,000. See Henry Harpending’s research on this, he illustrates how a 1 SD difference in a hypothetical trait, with a lower additive heritability than intelligence, could evolve in 500 years (The Ten Thousand Year Explosion).

            >Check up Jared Diamond

            I have, GG&S is bunk for a number of reasons I can go into in more detail if you’d like. Note that Diamond espoused a belief in genetic testing to establish who should be allowed into Israel or not as a ‘real Jew’ in a past paper he authored, he’s not exactly a very consistent fellow.

            Broadly speaking, while Diamond’s right that geography determines development, it also determines natural and sexual selection as well, leading to divergence by default.

        • Kai

          I agree that Asian-American males can use “postcolonial verbiage” to blame their lack of success or insecurity, but that doesn’t mean people’s preference aren’t shaped by environmental socialization or that postcolonialism overall is without validity.

          Who are the people who think “everything” is culturally conditioned? You seem to be arguing against a straw man.

          • Periandros

            My problem is that the gripe is always, or nearly always centered around white women. Said Asian males seem to expect white women to have as pronounced a preference for Asian males as they do for their own males. That’s unrealistic and reeks of entitlement, not even the kinds of Western bankers who party with SPGs in Sing are so entitled.

            Re: Postcolonialism. All Cultural Marxist discourse tends to be based on blanks late models of cognitive development in one way or another, it may not necessarily espouse them, but genetic explanations are completely ignored, so it’s the same thing functionally.

          • Kai

            But you said “no” to DisqusUsername. Why? What were you disagreeing with that he wrote?

            You’re still arguing against a straw man, which is the “Asian males” that “seem to expect white women to have as pronounced a preference for Asian males as they do their own males”. No one has argued that here, have they? If so, please quote them. Otherwise, you seem to be personally getting into people’s faces for no good reason.

            Regarding post-colonialism, I think you’re using a straw man to categorically dismiss it. That’s not intellectually honest. For example, I don’t think postcolonialism is mutually exclusive with genetic explanations at all. Trying to argue that to dismiss it entirely strikes me as being convenient so you don’t have to deal with the valid observations and arguments that come from postcolonialism. Those observations and arguments are observations and arguments all the same. Just because they’re labeled with “postcolonialism” doesn’t automatically weaken or strengthen their validity or persuasiveness except to people who have a vested interest in promoting or dismissing certain notions with labels. Intellectual discourse requires reconciling with valid points without resorting to out-of-hand dismissals based on generalizations.

          • Periandros

            >For example, I don’t think postcolonialism is mutually exclusive with genetic explanations at all.

            It is if you understand anything about Marxism.

            Postcolonialism can be critiqued on other grounds though, namely in its approach to Western colonialism as something that is historically sui generis, which, if you understand macrohistory and evolutionary psychology, is dishonest or willfully ignorant.

          • Kai

            You’re still using labels to conflate things. Focus on the valid points instead of trying to broaden them in order to dismiss them categorically. That’s all I can say at this point.

      • JankyFosci

        WHAT? Look up interracial marriage statistics for the US on Wikipedia. White male-asian female relationships are the most common interracial relationship,yes. But african male-asian female relationships are VERY rare and I’ve noted this in real life. Where the heck do you live that you see that? Asian male-white female relationships are one of the most common interracial relationships as well (proportionate to the # of asians in the US) and I see this in real life as well. I think you need to stop projecting.

      • SuperHappyCow

        But Asian women aren’t considered attractive by everyone. I rarely feel attracted to Korean or Japanese girls as opposed to very dark skinned black girks, or girls from Taiwan. It’s not as simple as what you’re pretending it is.

    • Yep! that’s insecurity indeed! :) I couldn’t care less if a white girl dated a black or asian or whatever… because i assume she’s a grown up who can make reasonable decisions. Perhaps asian guys trying to sabotage relationships (and i know very well what you mean) is a mix of insecurity(obviously) and also disrespect for woman, meaning that they have been used to telling them what to do all the time but nowadays asians girls are on “the open market” (if i may use this kind expression :p ) asian guys are like: “f**k! what do we do? let’s control them, let’s convince “our woman” that it will never work with “foreign men” bla bla bla…
      I assume you are talking about Asians in America, right? I actually come from France and interestingly enough, asians here(mostly Viet, Lao) even though they are kind don’t like to mix that much (friendship, and especially relationships)
      Might sound suprising but i think the most open and friendly people in France are usually black ( i assume being more imposing physically helps a bit to overcome ones insecurity complex)

      • Kai

        Part of the reason why you don’t care if a white girl dated non-white is because you don’t see it as a threatening trend, combined with a pop culture dominated by a non-white culture that fosters a social environment that marginalizes you and fetishizes white women.

        I don’t think insecurity and whining about it is going to help, but I don’t think its that hard to understand why Asian men, especially in white societies, feel disadvantaged. You have to step out from everything you take for granted and try seeing the world through their eyes. Not everything they think is true or born from intentional malice, but its really hard to deny the fact that there is such a thing as a dominant culture and society that can shape people’s preferences and behaviors, especially when its on things that cannot be changed (like skin color). If we socialize people to desire “white”, then everyone with a darker skin tone is ultimately disadvantaged as objects of desire.

        The media can affect girls’ self-image and self-esteems. The media can also affect Asian guys’ self-image and self-esteem. If the world were different, it could do the same thing to white guys as well.

        But the world ended up this way for one reason or another and that can’t be changed. What Asian guys need to accept is this, and that insecurely whining about it doesn’t really help them become more attractive. Just because you’re disadvantaged doesn’t mean you can’t still succeed. It may be unfair that you have to work harder and that there are less opportunities available to you, but the world is imperfect, humans most of all, and you have to play with the hand you were dealt. Of course, more enlightened societies will be understanding of and recognize your disadvantage. Then may then try to help level the playing field for you out of ideals of human equality. But you can’t live life waiting for others to be considerate of you and your circumstances. It’s something a society should aspire to, but its unreliable. People are always going to be self-interested and greedy. Don’t waste your life whining.

        Okay, complaining about it and saying doing so is catharsis may be acceptable to most, but there is a point where it veers into pathological insecurity and just obsessiveness, and that in turn becomes you sabotaging yourself and closing yourself off to the opportunities that remain.

        For Asian guys, there’s a difference between approaching a white girl and getting rejected, and refusing to approach a white girl just because you’re so certain she will reject you. If you do the first, you at least have the argument that pop culture, media, and white-society may have predisposed her to not possibly entertaining an Asian guy as a romantic interest, and it could be true. If you do the latter, you ultimately have to blame yourself. You surrendered to that pop culture, media, and white-society. You have to blame your decision for at least some of your failure there.

        Does any of this make it less “fair” that Asian guys are disadvantaged? No, but whining about it won’t change much of that, unless your whining is somehow actually motivating yourself to improve, which I doubt. You’ll never get the girls that treat your skin color and race as of paramount importance, but you can develop other assets that other girls consider more important in their potential love interests.

        • Well in reply to you 1st and 2nd paragraph…I’m half british, born in France. Anglo-saxon looks are not considered an attractive type here so perhaps i can relate a bit to this topic here. Girls here prefer darker skin guys (latin type). And speaking of threatning trends, i’ve seen white girls with non-white guys since i was a kid, i never realised it was a trend. The key to the problem is confidence, you simply have to learn to be confident(not the asshole type confidence) about what you are and what you like to do and girls simply like that. (i’m not saying all this just to disagree with you, i’m just adding to what you wrote :p )

          “Just because you’re disadvantaged” ? that’s nonsense man! I hear this self victimized stuff since i bloody started learning chinese 6 years ago. Always moaning about how the poor chinese are victims of the evil white men. Gotta stop this right now. Appart in specific situation,the problem in man woman relationships resides in one-self, you can’t blame “the others” all the time for not being successful. If you are a minority then you are rare, and rare is pretty attractive usually and since i don’t think America has that strong prejudice against American Asians then i suggest you use this rarity to you advantage.

          Talking about being rejected? come to France man, you will fuc*ing know what being rejected is all about it here and will understand that rejection is not specifically targeted to the local asians! :p

          Man, i was interested in your firsts few observations but then i realised you just put an “excuse” on your own insecurity…not having the balls to speak to girls isn’t specific to Asian guys. It’s like that with everybody. Just saying “it’s because i’m asian” isn’t fair! When i’m unsuccessful with girl i don’t go around saying “oh! it’s because i’m white!”
          Alright! let me give you some advice (take it or leave it of course) Simple as hell, if you like a girl, try to find an excuse to talk to her, or just say hi if you think she’s easy to talk to. If she react well, don’t act this silly american arrogant acting show…just be nice and chat about whatever you are interested in. If she doesn’t react well, be polite and leave, she’ll realised that she probably acted like a bitch and perhaps change her attitude towards you as the evening (i assume) goes on. If when you talk to her you feel she’s a stiff cow with who you can’t speak naturally, or if she doesn’t change her attitude after being harsh…then she is simply a bitch and you shouldn’t waste your time talking to her.

          Like i said take it or leave it (don’t want to hear any bullshit about anybody telling me i don’t know what i’m talking about)

          • Periandros

            You’re just encouraging him you know, being nice and altruistic with some people doesn’t work, it just encourages the festering, malignant victim identity he’s built up over the years.

            What works is ignoring the person in question, or challenging them and beating them head on in a debate so squarely they don’t come back.

            When these Asian-American males whine about not being able to find girlfriends, just ignore them. When you try to give them advice, or be nice to them, they just take it as weakness, and you end up invariably stroking their childlike ego anyway.

          • x1sfg

            Jesus Christ. The only person here whining is you. At least Gordon and Kai at least discuss the issues at hand. You’re just twisting others’ arguments in a way so it’s easier to knock down, when it just makes you look stupid.

            There are only two things people should hate in the world: Intolerant people and the Dutch

          • SuperHappyCow

            True that, homie– Wait, what?

          • dk2020

            LOL why the Dutch?

          • mr.wiener

            Austin Powers reference.

          • dk2020

            I haven’t seen those movies in awhile ..
            remember this flick from the 80’s? it’s actually pretty good ..

          • x1sfg

            It’s a quote from Austin Powers. I found it fitting because that quote is contradictory, pretty much like Periandros

          • Kai

            How does you being half-British respond to my first and second paragraphs?

            I’m uncertain why you think I’m making excuses when I’m explicitly criticizing the Asian guys who incessantly whine about this stuff and am telling them to man up. I’m approaching this from what I consider an objective perspective being able to see both sides of the issue and I feel you’re trying to pigeon-hole me as an insecure Asian male because you can see what I look like and I am willing to articulate the arguments involved. That’s not cool of you. I’m really hoping you just didn’t read my comment properly.

            For example, I never said not having the balls to speak to girls is specific to Asian guys. Where did that come from?

            Dude, I’ve dated plenty of girls, of different races and cultures, including white, and I’m married. I think your advice on chatting up girls and the whole “take it or leave it” attitude towards me is misdirected.

          • Fair enough…i just made the assumption that your comments where about yourself. Then just change all the “you should’s” in my previous comment and change them to “they should’s” there you go!
            (And the “half British” line was related to the fact that..I am also a minority in France)

        • Periandros

          Kai, you’re a typical Asian-American male. You hide your insecurity and racial hatred behind a muddle of ‘post colonial’ verbiage. If you could actually be a man and admit that you’re just racially hostile towards white men and don’t like seeing them date asian women, whereas you attach an air of triumphant ‘conquest’ to asian men dating white women, then I’d actually have a degree of respect for you, unfortunately, like most Asian-American males, you choose to hide behind this purpose-built vernacular of ‘muh systematic oppression’, lol, as if a wealthy Chinese businessman’s son on the West Coast is somehow less privileged than a kid of a poor Appalachian farmer. What a load of nonsense. Let me guide you through a few home truths.

          Fact #1: Whites are portrayed in a far worse way in East Asian media than Asians are in Western Media. The whole ‘Long Duck Dong is why I’m not a winner’ routine is getting old when you consider the sort of stock villain presentation Whites are given in Chinese films.

          Fact #2: All women are endogamous. This includes Asian Women, most Asian Women prefer Asian Men, most White Women prefer White Men (ceteris paribus of course). Your real point of butthurt is the latter though, you are so entitled that you actually, legitimately expect White Women, as a whole, to like Asian Men as much as they do their own race.

          Fact #3: Can the ‘orientalism’ and ‘fetishism’ shit. We all know Chinese Males fetishize blonde, white females ten thousand times more than White Males do to Asian Females.

          Fact #4: Not a single White Male I know who is dating an Asian Female attaches the same air of triumphalism or ‘conquest’ to it that Asian Males who are dating White Females do. So much for the whole ‘Hurrr we AMs are so much more well adjusted in our interracial relationships!’

          Fact #5: It has been said thousands of times on here, but I’ll reiterate it once more for your benefit: You were/are treated with far more respect, dignity and kindness as an Asian in a Western Country than a White person would be if they ever tried to ‘integrate’ themselves into mainland China. Part of you knows this deep down, I’m sure.

          • Periandros

            >Then may then try to help level the playing field for you out of ideals of human equality.

            Also, this is quite frankly disturbing. Are you suggesting their should be Government-sponsored social engineering and entitlement schemes to help Asian Males procure White girlfriends?

            You have an entire subculture of weeby white chicks to exploit for goodness sake, if anything you have it EASIER than whites with asiaphilia, because asian women at least hold their white partners to some kind of baseline standard. White weeby girls love anything with a Epicanthal fold, literally. I’ve seen quite frankly hideous looking Korean men with White women who wouldn’t stand a snowball’s chance in -hell- back in their own country.

          • Kai

            Dude, Periandros, you’re wearing your prejudice on your sleeve here and the straw men are running amok.

            I’m a typical Asian-American male. Judging by what I wrote, that means the typical Asian-American male is one who openly characterizes certain Asian-American males as insecure and indulging themselves in incessant whining? You’re not arguing against me, you’re arguing against an imaginary opponent and shitting on me personally in the process. Not cool.

            Where the hell did I indicate I have problem with white guys dating Asian girls? Where did I attach an air of conquest when Asian guys date white women? I said nothing of either sort. You’re being a dick to me for no reason.

            A wealthy Chinese businessman’s son on the West Coast will have his advantages over a poor Appalachian farmer’s kid just as the poor Appalachian farmer’s kid will have his advantages over the Chinese businssman’s son. Their advantages and disadvantages will also be different in different girls’ eyes depending on what each girl is attracted to or turned off by, which will in part be shaped by their socialization.

            Regarding your “truths”:

            1. East Asian media is less internationally influential than Western media. But what actually matters here is that one doesn’t negate the other. They’re not mutually exclusive.

            I understand you apparently are very sensitive towards the complaints Asian-Americans have about how they’ve been portrayed or type-casted in Western media, but you’re whining just as much as they are now.

            2. What the hell? I don’t think that at all. In fact, I quite openly recognize that people tend to stick to their own kind. Recognizing that pop culture and media can shape people’s preferences does not translate to me feeling entitled to white girls liking Asian guys as much as they like white guys. What the hell is wrong with you?

            3. I can’t really quantify how much more Asian or white men fetishize Asian or white women versus the other. I recognize that both fetishizing exists in abundance.

            4. I didn’t say AMs are better adjusted in interracial relationships. Why are you being a dick to me?

            I do think there is more triumphalism or “conquest” attached to AM/WF relationships and its precisely because of the underdog phenomenon. The same thing exists amongst BM/WF relationships. It’ll go away when it becomes more common.

            5. You seem really bitter and its clouding your objectivity and judgment. I think both Asians and whites have been victims of prejudice in both places. I don’t see the problem in recognizing both. I don’t see why one apparently can be used to negate the other. Isn’t that like responding to a criticism of China by pointing out that the same thing happened outside of China? Both are legit. The problem is if someone is trying to justify, excuse, or dismiss one with the other.

            In response to your second comment, I don’t understand how you read my comment to be me suggesting government-sponsored social engineering and entitlement schemes. You need to read in context:

            It may be unfair that you have to work harder and that there are less opportunities available to you, but the world is imperfect, humans most of all, and you have to play with the hand you were dealt. Of course, more enlightened societies will be understanding of and recognize your disadvantage. They may then try to help level the playing field for you out of ideals of human equality.

            In the context of pop culture and media, this would be as simple as resisting type-casting in roles.

            I have no idea what “weeby” means and a Google search didn’t help. The comment about Asian women holding their white partners to a baseline standard is simply offensive and appalling. You come across to me as being as shrill as the insecure Asian men you’re apparently having an apoplectic fit about. Please calm down and be civil. You’re behaving like an ass.

          • Fuc*ing agree with that Fact#5!!! I know quite a lot for expats who have been living in China for 10-20 years, all from various back grounds…not only Western White guys, but also Blacks, an Algerian guy and others. All of them speak excellent Chinese, better than mine which is already pretty good after 6 years of studying. The stories they have told me man…nuts!…they obviously love China but the discriminations they endured or saw, the conniving little pricks trying to sabotage relationships with Chinese girls, the down right racism and prejudice.
            I know that we WHITES are so eviil and and so meaan towards those poors foreigners coming and enjoying €40billion annual welfare for foreigners we give in France but the bullshite i heard or saw in China, it’s just….amazing.

          • If you want to hear a story that describe how a part of Chinese men can be little cunts read this story :
            I was with my Algerian friend (married to a japanese woman- 2 kids) invited at a wedding in China. Not far from us at one of the dinner tables was a group of Chinese guys and an Egyptian guy. The Egyptian guy, very nice, awesome educational background but didn’t speak Chinese. These Chinese guys decided to “pick on him”. Why? I would think it’s because of all the frustration they have in their own shit lives and when they see a defenseless foreigner, very much like a pack of hyenas, they want to attack. So they tried to get him completly drunk to humiliate him..you know chinese honor right, they drink 1 glass of baijiu but you drink 10. The well mannered Egyptian guy probably knew something was up but too polite to say anything and also probably didn’t think him just being a foreigner was reason enough to attract problems, well with insecure dickheads it is. When my Algerian friend realised what was going on he decide to challenge the pack leader to a drinking duel(not declaring it officially but it was obvious to everyone). The “Awkward fun” tone was set (love it! :D). After a while the chinese guy “went for a pee” Obviously is was so affraid of getting humiliated in front of everybody (especially in a situation where he was the dickhead and that, oh my god, a foreigner challenged him) that he wanted to go make himself vomit in the toilet. The Algerian being wise to that one ran after him to stop him and was also followed by some Chinese guys wanting to “protect the nice chinese against the evil foreigner”. After 2 Zidane headbutts, the wedding was ruined!

            You see that kind of shit often in China if you open your eyes a bit, but at the end of the day the Chinese just shout to rally the troups and all the insecure, prejudiced, racist pricks drope by and all the Chinese think that it must have been the foreign people who did something wrong. :p
            (Don’t missunderstand there is also a lot of cool stuff about China! :D)

      • SuperHappyCow

        It’s amazing when people say shit like that. Now that I think of it, I’ve only known three “imposing” black guys over the past 6 years, having lived in many U.S. states. This shit about certain races being huge, and others being tiny is starting to seem like B.S. to me.

    • Rick in China

      Regarding this couple and the short blurb (haven’t seen the flick but i want to wait to watch it together with my girl :D) I’m absolutely happy with the fact they seem truly in love, and overcoming their difficulties…that’s how life *should* be.

      Maybe the anti-interracial thing is a projection / lack of self confidence issue, maybe it’s upbringing…it exists all over – they picked the right place in going to Europe rather than the middle of USA, I read recently that 20% of republicans polled think interracial marriage should be *illegal*. Not looked down upon, but illegal in terms of criminal detention, and that seems like the same sort of mind-set you’ve mentioned with many “Asian-American men” or whomever…

      • linette lee

        ……………republicans polled think interracial marriage should be *illegal*. ……….

        Then they must hate obama. He is half black and white.

        • Rick in China

          Many republicans hate Obama. It was public, and clear in their speeches.. well known republican leaders saying things like “The republican goal is to prevent Obama’s success and prevent his re-election” — oh, SO many things were said, youtube search and you’ll find out :D Not just nobodies, but “respected” (in republican terms) elected officials.

          News recently in US, a lady tried to kill her husband by running him over – he was hiding behind a telephone pole, then the eventually drove over him while he made a run for it (several people called 911, can hear those calls) – she hit him and pinned him under the car/against a divider in the road and he is in critical condition..why? Because he didn’t vote, and Obama won. CRAZY people out there :D

        • Periandros

          Yes, just like how even ‘advanced’ Chinese such as Singaporeans hate Eurasians.

          There’s a reason all the Eurasians in Singapore identify more with their European side for example, maybe Chinese people should have treated them a little better instead of using the racial violence of the 1950s and 1960s to attack them and physically abuse them (for example, during the Maria Hertogh riots).

      • PixelPulse

        I remember that poll but wasn’t it in a far right website where that sort of thing is expected? I dont really remember, but I doubt all republicans thing interracial marriages should be illegal.

        • Rick in China

          It was 20% polled in 1 specific state I think, not “all republicans” :D don’t be silly…

          The whole point was that those people even *exist*, and that number of people in 1 red state is pretty staggering in this day and age, to me, anyways..

    • dim mak

      Nerdy people are always more insecure regardless of race. And Asians tend to be nerdier. It’s an upbringing thing.

      I used to get supremely asspained about AMWF when I was younger. But after increased socializing and fucking around with all sorts of people, the butthurt is largely gone.

      • dim mak

        Pah
        Not AMWF, WMAF

      • Periandros

        The thing is, nerdy whites usually just get bitter about better looking whites.

        Nerdy Asians have a tendency to claim that, at least functionally, that the white race as a whole is the reason they can’t get a girlfriend.

    • hun

      i dont know why u interracial couples keep announcing that you’re going out with a different ethnicity, do you need attention becuzz no one currs.

      • Nilerafter24

        Unless you’re dyslexic, you should probably read the title of the article again.
        Lucy’s comment is relevant to the subject matter whereas yours isn’t.
        So why don’t you take your puerile comments to some other site like Yahoo! where people can appreciate your immaturity and vacuousness.

        ”This is thurr interrrnett and if you ain’t gatt anythin’ relevant to say, y dont u jus, like, you knurr, go sumwurr else”

    • JankyFosci

      Where do you live? I know many couples of both types and have NEVER seen anyone trying to sabotage them or heard of any issues involving race (except for parents). Perhaps you’re projecting your own rare case onto the world.

      • Strangerland

        Race??? I post about women suffragate and feminism as the major reason why asian ladies considered to be more attractive than other non-white ladies in general. But yes about the part where their lighter skintone may resemble white skintone is probably disturbing for some. I don’t find it that much disturbing- honestly even blacks have their own problem with the lighter the skintone is- the more they seem prettier for other blacks. Even in non-black non-white society, lighter skin tone is “prettier”. I just want to point out that subconciously, asian ladies light tanned skin tone closely resembled what the white wants to see- so it didn’t hurt the eyes. You have the stereotype traditional housewife material with lightly tanned skin tone the white ladies tried to emulate with their tanning sessions? Really don’t hurt the eyes at all.
        Again, I don’t speak for majority so if I’m wrong about you then it’s great. Let’s just say I was in badmood yesterday and all of the shallow reasons why asian ladies considered attractive were gettig on my nerves. I just find it repulsing toread the web full of physical attributes with no one bothers to try deeper reasonings. Race is not the main part, in my eyes. In my humble opinion, it ties deeper with feminism and suffragate movement- but maybe I wasn’t wise enough to blab on cs.let’s chalk it up to me being unable to stomach the cheesy peanut gallery discussion here- I was in a bad mood yesterday. Good day to you all.

        • Strangerland

          Oops sorry janky, thought you replied to me. Dang I hate cs new comment system. Doesn’t matter though I won’t come back here again in the future I’m sick with the peanut gallery here. Good day everyone.

    • Strangerland

      All the talk about asian ladies considered attractive is shallow reason for me. I think it’s more about feminism and suffragate movement. If we’re beig honest, white ladies started it all- in the modern movement that would shape women’s movement everywhere. As the result, subconciously everyone see them as “non-traditional” female archtype. If we’re being honest, we see white ladies as the ones who’s more likely to ask for more equal treatment, they wouldn’t put up being second class citizen, they’re aware of their rights and would more likely to fight back tooth-and-nail for fair treatment be it in marriage or in work. Though such generic concept doesn’t work in real world- I gotta admit it’s much more difficult to imagine same depiction from non-white ladies. You don’t have to look far, even on the web you can see it yourself: asian ladies generally considered to be meek, obedient little housewife material, girly girl, would put up more with husband’s misogynist treatment, wouldn’t assume breadwinner position and wouldn’t wear the pants at home etc etc. see what I mean? I also want to say they’re considered more attactive than darker skinned ladies because their lighter skin tone make them ideal enough to relive the traditional housewife role that white ladies generally had scoffed at.
      And thus we have the main reason, subconciously perhaps, of why Asian ladies are considered to be more attractive. I may strike some nerves here, but this is my honest observation. It’s all tied back to that- women movement for equality and men’s unwilligness to let it happen, however subconciously it may be. I’ve observed how some third world ladies fighting their society’s traditionalist view of women (one that developed countries-majorty of which were whites- already claimed as ancient relics) and even their own menfolks considered them to be “unwomanly, she’s being too westernized, she’s going to poison all of the ladies here and we’d have no more good-obedient-housewife material anymore if we let her be.” And would see them the same way men in general see a white woman: not someone they can disregard easily. I find it frustating that people only see this issue from a point that seems shallow in my eyes though.

      • Strangerland

        Oh and so sorry for the errors in my rant- i can’t seem to get used to iphone’s keyboard LOL.

    • Frankly, I don’t care for Asian women and White men couple. I just hope there is some balance and the Anglo-American media doesn’t keep pushing down my throat every time I turn on the TV. Take for instance this new movie Atlas Cloud. Asian men are rarely seen on TV, when they do, they are never pair with a woman, and when they do, it is always platonic. Never a sex scene between AM with any woman. So when they do have a AM sex scene with an Asian woman. The AM is played by a white guy.

      Do you see how fucked up white media are? No wonder the AM doesn’t care for WM, the White man has been pushing this couple down their throat since they stepped foot in Asia.
      Here is another nice WM/AF couple:

      http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/09/ex-preacher_brian_lee_randone.php

      • Periandros

        >No wonder the AM doesn’t care for WM, the White man has been pushing this couple down their throat since they stepped foot in Asia.

        I don’t see a particularly high representation of Asian Females with White Males in Film or TV to be honest. The most high profile representation I can think of right now is that Korean with his White girlfriend in The Walking Dead.

        You can’t have it both ways either as far as media representation goes. Chinese representation of anyone non-Chinese is downright shitty, and many orders or magnitude worse than the way the way the West portrays you. This is to say nothing of Korean media’s obsession with portraying White Women with Korean Men and fetishistic portrayal of the former.

        Also, please don’t make distinctions of Europeans based on Anglocentric perceptions, we non-Anglo Whites hate you too :)

        Funniest thing about this of course is that it was a 19th century Chinese racial theorist who first advocated the mixing of White and Oriental.

  • MrT

    Marmite!

  • Germanicus

    I wonder how many of the crazy Asian American male crowd you’d see ranting and raving in this thread about “orientalism” or whatever other verbiage they learned to conceal their racial hatred beneath if this were a White Man with an Asian Woman.

    Gotta stroke their egos, right ChinaSmack? Deep down most of them are the equivalent of angry little boys.

    • themig

      in past years too many impressionable white boys grew up with these pearl cream and suzie wong commercials on tv .thats why they came to objectify asian women just like the Xiongnus did 3000 years ago

  • Karan

    Stupid boy, got danm cute girl special in her own ways..mixed beautifull race

  • 3ayo

    Ah cute couple. :) I wish them the best.

  • JayJay

    Sounds like she is from Surrey or Hampshire.

  • Billy

    I am also a white guy and have a half Chinese son and I hope what ever insecurities that seem to plague Asian men in regards white women will be gone by the time he has become an adult. I am more than happy to see any Asian guy in a happy and loving relationship with any woman whatever their colour. This is the thing Asian men who accuse white guys in reltationships with ‘their’ women don’t seem to understand – our kids are Asian too so why on earth would we want our sons to struggle in finding a future mate?

  • Nice looking couple. Let’s be honest. AM/WF couple are ten times better looking WM/AF couples. The reason being, is the later are usually made up of pretty mentally screwed up WM. I can’t tell you how many incident of White men killing their Asian girlfriends. Here is a couple. I dare any of you refute me. Frankly, I have never seen a bad looking AM/WF couple.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20101124da_spat_over_name_for_baby_sparked_slays/

    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-05-21/news/27064952_1_queens-man-crime-lab-criminologist

    • Jennster

      “I have never seen a bad looking AM/WF couple.”

      ^ Me too. Asian guys are more normal imo.

      • Kate

        Me and my husband, I think we are a well groomed not terribly tragic looking am/wf couple ^_^♥

        • Chinese

          You look beautiful! Your husband looks ~ not bad.

          • mr.wiener

            Good thing he’s not white. Gay az boi would be after him… grrr!

        • GiannaFox

          You are gorgeous!

        • Marc Andres

          Kate you’re way too hot for him. Lucky dude!

        • Germandude

          Nice pic Kate. I suggest you to stop posting pics of yourself though. After what happened to that moronic Scottish teacher, you should be a bit careful with what you post here about yourself. Just an advice.

        • I told you. You guys are a nice looking couple. Never seen a bad looking AM/WF couple.

        • dk2020

          Good looking couple ..

    • dim mak

      After reading your twitter and disqus comments I find it hard to take you seriously

    • mr.wiener

      consider yourself refuted.

    • PixelPulse

      Whats up with people always shitting on WM/AF couples?

    • Periandros

      >Let’s be honest. AM/WF couple are ten times better looking WM/AF couples.

      I find that hard to believe. Literally the only White Women that display a pronounced preference for Asian Males are weeaboos who may or may not have some kind of mental illness (observe them at anime conventions for example). This isn’t really something you can contest either. It’s anecdotal, but everyone with any experience of relationships between White females and Asian males knows it to be true.

      At least the Asian Women who date White Men have some kind of standard of normality.

      • JankyFosci

        Actually he/she is right. Look up some interracial videos on Youtube. The asian men/white women womens are full of VERY good looking couples, The asian women/white men ones… not so much. I’ve always wondered why this is. I’ve a feeling it’s because asian men tend to be much more superficial.

        • Periandros

          I just went to youtube, I couldn’t actually find any WM/AF videos, the only thing that searching it brings up are… Asian Male / White Female videos created by… Asian Males. I wonder why White Men don’t feel the need to create such videos, odd, right Janky? It’s almost as if White Men don’t have your crippling lack of self-esteem. It’s -almost- as if Asian Men have more of an obsession with White Women than White Men do for Asian Women.

          • Marc Andres

            For someone who claims not to be insecure you are sure doing one hell of a job convincing everyone how bitter you are about Asian males. Insecure much?

          • Periandros

            I’m not sure I understand you. I stated that I went to youtube, punched in the search keywords the aforementioned poster alluded to, and the only thing that the results returned were videos of Asian Males with White Females created, almost invariably it would seem, by Asian Males.

            I wondered why there were no Asian Female with White Male videos created by White Men, and then I realized that White Men aren’t pathologically insecure and actually have souls.

          • Marc Andres

            Haha, sure bud. You’re doing a fine job showing how White males can be just as insecure as these Asian Americans that you rant about.

          • fabulous

            You are doing a wonderful job of trying to create an argument when you can’t find an argument.

          • JankyFosci

            The greatest irony is that you’re apparently the most insecure person on this site regarding interracial relationships. The fact that you attacked Kate after she brought up her asian husband speaks volumes about you.

          • Periandros

            Janky, you proactively follow youtube videos which display slideshows of interracial couples with bad backing music. This is a self-admitted hobby of yours, as it is many other Asian Males seemingly, as AM/WF videos outnumber the reverse on there by a huge margin.

            Why the obsession with White Women though? I’m curious. You do realize only a White Man and a White Woman can produce a White girl in the first place, right? So why hate the male that produced the kinds of girls to chronically masturbate to?

          • JankyFosci

            Nope, a famous youtuber I watch happens to have a white girlfriend and the related videos led to those ones. Nice assumptions though. What we all DO know is that you attacked Kate unprovoked just because she has an asian husband. THAT makes you pathetic. Keep trying to act as if the asian males are out to get you though lmao. In reality, no one cares about you. That’s why you lash out for attention.

          • Periandros

            >Nope, a famous youtuber I watch happens to have a white girlfriend and the related videos led to those ones.

            Sure thing dude. I totally believe you.

            >Keep trying to act as if the asian males are out to get you though lmao.

            The only thing you chronic masturbators are out to get are realdolls. We only need to read through your comments history to see your passive aggressive hypocrisy towards white men with asian girlfriends/wives.

          • JankyFosci

            You must not be very good at Youtube then.

            Here:

            http://www.youtube.com/user/romanpr1nce/videos?view=0

            This guy alone has made a half dozen videos of white guys and asian girls.

          • Periandros

            I’m sorry, I don’t follow youtube-centric racial conflicts. Keep up the good fight though Charlie Chan, I’m sure we can count on you to leave lots of abusive messages on his userpage at least for the glory of the Mongoloid race. Right?

        • GiannaFox

          I noticed a trend with Asian men picking caucasian women, they tend to be quite pretentious. Of course, this doesn’t hold true of them all, but the general trend that I noticed is that they look for asian-like traits in the caucasian ones: the thinner and more delicate she looks, the better, the less angular her features, the better, and stuff like that. So, a white woman with asian-like qualities basicly, at least when it comes to body weight and overall femininity. And with Asian guys, I noticed that white girls generally go for the westernized type of Asian guy with more angular features, taller, broader, more athletic etc..with a proportion of them who go for the classic feminine, pop singer type (the ones that date asians because they have a thing for asian pop stars or moviestars). So, yeah, this basicly pushes for either to look good in order to successfully attract and raise interest. That’s just my observation.

          • 3ayo

            What are Asian-like qualities regarding femininity? I know that many western women may not be as feminine as they were in past generations, but whatever traits Asian women have that make them so feminine are not what I’d label as being unique to them. I don’t think we can paint all western women with the same brush, and often times we forget women on other continents (Africa, South America) that are just as feminine, yet for some reason aren’t taken into account.

        • I think it is both. Honestly, Asian men have the odds stack against them in the Anglo world. So when it comes to WF, they really expect the AM to be good looking to be dating them. So when an AM is good looking, he has standard, so he doesn’t date some not so attractive WF. Hence, then they do meet, both are usually good looking. The WF has the power in this regards, but the AM also has standard. You rarely see an ugly asian guy with a hot white girl. NEVER so you can see the odds are against AM, while you do see many ugly ass white guy with good looking AF. So the odds are in favor of WM.

      • GiannaFox

        LOL You are probably talking about yourself here. By the complete shit you just said above, it looks like you are the one with the mental illness.

        • Periandros

          >You are probably talking about yourself here

          Are you 12?

          >By the complete shit you just said above, it looks like you are the one with the mental illness.

          If you want to flat out deny that White women with a preference for Asian males are generally xenophilic weeaboos, be my guest. The comforting philosophical gymnastics we employ as a species are extremely resilient to reality after all.

          • GiannaFox

            Funny, I was just thinking the same about you. Are YOU 12?

            I really dislike jerks like you who like to generalize and diss entire groups of people just because you may have happened to have had bad experiences or simply just hate on them.

            I mean, you were criticizing a whole group, talking like it’s a universal fact, when it is just your mere opinion. How can you expect anyone to take YOU seriously? What kind of adult talks like that? You are being a hypocrite by calling me immature.

            I would understand a few women you’ve seen, but a whole fcking group? Like ALL? This just hurts my head thinking about the nonsense in that.

            People like you piss me off to no end. Why can’t you fcking be reasonable? Why the hell generalize and call it fact?

            Jesus fcking Christ. And you expect to be talked to like an adult. I can’t believe the hypocrisy and lack of critical thinking and common sense in some people. I shouldn’t even be bothering replying to you altogether. My bad. I prolly should stop getting on Chinasmack altogether. It hurts my head with the ignorant, arrogant shit that’s being said on here, and then you dare be even sarcastic to defend your point of view. Disgusting.

          • Periandros

            Don’t use vernacular like ‘diss’. It makes you look like an urban yoof (yes, that’s a euphemism).

            I am criticizing a whole group. Groups are defined by certain shared values or outlooks, or else they wouldn’t be a group, they may diverge from this mean to a certain extent, but the vast majority cluster around it and thus it becomes a defining characteristic and why they’re considered a group in the first place, whether it’s racial-phenotypical, or whatever. In the case of white women who like asian men, nearly all are weeaboos. There’s no way around this.

          • SuperHappyCow

            Periandros, can I shit in your b-hole?

          • dk2020

            Periandros is such a negative Nancy ..

      • LOL…you seriously are delude. AM/WF are tens time more normal than WM/AF. AM/WF are both have to be strong willed to go against the grain, while WM are usually loser and AF has some mentality messed up idea about her identity.

        Why do you think there are so many WM who kills their AF? Not just shoot them, but in such brutal manner. See my link.

        • Periandros

          >AM/WF are tens time more normal than WM/AF.

          I’ve never met a woman with a pronounced preference for Asian Males who wasn’t an anime fanatic. I’m not trying to insult you here, it’s just reality, everyone who knows these types of couples knows these types of women, and they are most assuredly not normal.

          Contrary to what Asian-American males say, there is no ‘type’ of Asian female who goes for White guys. They could be an engineering student going for a nerdy white dude, or a hipster liberal arts student going for a white dude in an indie band. The pool of asian females who date white males is more heterogeneous. Also, the whole “Asian woman who says she hates Asian men and will never date them” is just a convenient strawman invented by Asian-American males. They don’t actually exist. Trust me, I’ve dated Asian-American females, and I like them, if they existed, I’d know.

          >AM/WF are both have to be strong willed to go against the grain

          What grain? The only people who care are your own racist parents 99% of the time anyway. Not us.

          >Why do you think there are so many WM who kills their AF?

          Are there? Are you sure the rates of spousal homicide are significantly higher for this pairing? Can you provide some statistical evidence for this assertion?

          Let’s not forget all the Southeast Asian mail order brides that have been beaten and/or killed by their Korean peasant husbands after all. And for every white guy who kills his Asian girlfriend, there’s a Joji Obara esque equivalent in the Far East. Like I said, the posturing at being a nice guy thing is a reflexive attitude on the part of Asian Americans, Asians in Asia feel no such compunction to adopt this dishonest position, they don’t need to pretend to be nice.

          Your obvious neuroses would be interesting to study. You do realize the white women you crave all have white fathers/brothers etc? And that these same women you obsessively fetishize could not exist without white men in the first place? Do you just forget this convenient fact when you’re going on one of your AsiaFinest-esque rants?

          I think it’s time for Asian-American men who are unsuccessful with women to accept that they would have been unsuccessful were they brought up in America, China, Japan, Korea or Outer Mongolia. They’re simply unassertive and can quite easily be outcompeted by men of their own race. The only difference is, if they’re raised in the US or another Western country, they have a useful scapegoat to blame all their woes on, rather than actually addressing their own inherent flaws which would manifest themselves regardless of the racial makeup of their home country.

  • Armin Van S

    Beautiful! Thanks for the video (:

  • Kate

    All I know is the euroasian babies are super adorables ^_^♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

    Case in point my little one :) half korean (dad) half white (me) but looks like her dad mostly.

    • Super Bunny

      your baby is so cute ,and u dres her like a toy,haha !

      i wish to have girl too.but i will dress her like a small punk ,haha!

      • Kate

        Tyvm ^_^♥ It was her halloween costume ^_^ Girls are awesome but I really want a boy too, ideally 3 boys, 3 girls :)

    • Periandros

      It’s funny how you females with a thing for Korean or Chinese men bring them, and your offspring, back to Western countries.

      What’s the matter, if Korean and Chinese men are so great, why won’t they accept Eurasian children? Why do they treat them so much more shittily than largely White societies do?

      • Kate

        My child isn’t treated “shittily” in Korea, infact koreans go crazy over her and her korean family very much adores and loves her. Secondly dude you don’t have a clue in a cold day in hell as to why my husband and I are living in the usa right now. Although we are moving back to korea in March to live and nether decision has anything to do with how our child is treated by whites or asians.
        A thing for asian men? I love my husband not because he is asian but because he is an awesome person. He is sweet, loving, loyal, funny, hardworking, smart, and our personalities are wonderfully complimentary of each other.

        Thirdly go crawl back into whatever little mean, spiteful, racist hole you came out of. You are just a mean, bitter person hatin on anything you can.

        • Periandros

          Then tell me you have the balls to send your child to school in South Korea.

          We’ll see how nice all those wonderful Koreans are then. We both know what would happen if you did that.

          And keep in in mind these are the same people who, in the US, have a chip on their shoulder for DECADES about being called a ‘chink’ once in 6th grade.

          • Marc Andres

            lol Periandros you’re so bitter bro. Sad as fuck HAH.

          • Periandros0248914@hotmail.com

            >bitter

            Not at all. I’m not the one who has authors academic papers about how the white man engineered society to make women not like me. That’s your average Asian race-hustler in an ‘ethnic studies’ department.

            The sad part is, those people actually exist.

            I never used to dislike Asian-American males, just when I discovered the depth of their hatred for the western societies they demand accept them as one of their own.

            We’re just very different people. Asians place a big emphasis on face, we Westerners are more about hypocrisy. That’s why a racially tribal, racially hostile, hateful little Korean male ranting and raving about ‘white racism’ is so irritating to us.

      • SuperHappyCow

        Dude, why are you such a fucking hater?

        • dk2020

          I think he needs a girlfriend .. so angry and bitter .. not just against Asian males but errybody ..LMAO .. straight up douchebag.

        • Periandros

          I’m not.

          Asian men who don’t push identity politics, hate white males and further racially balkanize western countries can date all the white girls they want. I’m cool with them.

    • the ace of books

      Your baby is ridonkulously cute. Congrats :D

  • I can’t help but to wonder is foreigner code-word for white people… This would be a much more entertaining documentary if said foreigner was a black woman. All type of hell would break loose… Reality TV FTW lol..

    • dim mak

      It is… many asians exist in a world where there’s only 2 relevant races: asian and white. Even ones that live in a multicultural country think like this

      • well that’s unfortunate

      • hess

        I’m from Sweden (wich has 22% “non-ethnic” Swedes) and I think i can proudly say: Piss off fagturd

        • whats your problem.

          • Anotherswede

            Good question Anthony. Trouble is there’s idiots in all countries and hess and mine is no exception. I’m also from Sweden and believe it or not, hess words are not representative for us as whole. The majority of us aren’t so ignorant and homophobic like this example. We can be a bit rude though, since we act more xenophobic then we are =P.

            dim mak: I really hope it’s not so. Being white I take much for granted, I know, but I really find other cultures very interesting. In fact, I wish I can save enough to go to China also some time. There’s only so much you can read about a different culture then your own and it’s totally different from experiencing it. Good or bad, experiencing new cultures then you’re used to let you grow and become a better person =).

        • workboots1

          Swedes are kaffir lovers.

      • surfingthewoods

        wow people, chill out. And enough with the delusion. Foriegners in Asia especially when used in positive context mean white people. ANYWHERE in Asia, not just China. Take it from someone who belongs to that culture. Not all chinese are racist, but Asia hasnt gone through the same race tolerance movement as USA and so is neither as informed nor as accepting of darker skinned people. This is a fact. It shuldnt and doesnt affect love but I can tell from personal experience that this woman in the video got a very sweet end of the deal. And that is not the experience of the few if any dark skinned people who have had a romantic relationship with chinese/japanese/korean. There are a lot of individual factors that matter, but dont glaze over something like this. It is insulting to be the people who are excluded (i.e. races other than white and east asian).

        Also, to the misinformed, the comment before that asians only think there are two races…. Thats an extreme comment, as again not all people are like that. However I have met wayy more east asians than any other race that have this kind of thinking. I just like to classify them as shitty and intellectually impaired people, instead of blaming their race for it. Because that insults the good asian people… But it is not a comment that came out of nowhere.

    • PixelPulse

      The word people is usually a code word for white people. If you didnt mention a persons race most people will usually assume white, its sort of how the world came to be now-a-days.

      • fabulous

        The word people is usually code for “most people I know”.

    • Jennster

      Foreigners encompass all races but the majority in China are white people. Unlike China’s more homogeneous asian neighbours who tend to call out people by ethnicity and races, Chinese just use ‘Foreigner’.

      • red scarf

        No, the majority of foreigners in China are Asian people but I rarely see them being called laiwai even when their being bashed. Can you really tell a Korean person from an Chinese person in a fleeing moment in Beijing rush hour. Its a lot easier to tell a white person and an Chinese person apart simply there a big visual clue, but could you tell a German apart from a French simply based on their features?

        • Rick in China

          Demeanor maybe :D

          • G$

            A Korean and a Chinese even in rush hour, yes, absolutely. Once one has spent enough time in any asian country, it is really not that difficult, assuming the person is observant and studious enough.

          • hess

            bull fucking shit.
            I’m Swedish and I can’t tell the difference between a German and a Swede until they open their mouth

          • Jahar

            It’s not that hard. Koreans aren’t generally that hard to pick out. Europeans vs. N. Americans are easy to spot too.

          • The Acidic Hasidic

            1000 RMB says if i give you a test, encompassing korean vs chinese vs japan and euro vs n american faces you wont score more than 70%

          • rollin wit 9’s

            test his balls mate!

          • Jahar

            it it’s just random faces and not hand picked, I’d say I could get 80-85% N.Americans vs Euros, and 90% of Koreans vs Chinese. Not so good at Chinese vs Japanese. Either way, 70% success would be pretty good, considering N.American whites came from the same stock.

          • Zappa Frank

            i’m afraid your score is impossible..

          • Jahar

            I’m telling ya, it’s really not that hard.

          • Zappa Frank

            it 30 years i live in europe, i think i know what i’m talking about. Take off clothes and hairstyle and i can assure there’s almost no difference between europeans and americans white guys. Gene pool is almost the same so where do you find the difference? Facial expressions?

          • Jahar

            Well, for one, i’m not looking at them naked, but i don’t know how to explain it. I’ve been traveling around Asia for 5 years, and i generally have no trouble spotting Europeans. Especially eastern Europeans. Different lifestyles will show on most people. Shit, the difference in appearance between mainland Chinese and all the others is usually quite obvious. One of the big things is the way people carry themselves, and their mannerisms.

          • Zappa Frank

            ok if you are talking about manners, carry themselves around and so on.. i trust you, is true, there are differences easy to see..

          • jon775

            Yeah, the fatty is the american.

          • Jahar

            Brits, Americans, Canadians, and Aussies top the charts for fatties, afaik, so you can’t really use that stereotype.

          • Jennster

            Yeah Germans and Swede/Norwegian tend to look similar :)

          • Jennster

            I can tell Koreans apart from han Chinese by looking at their eye shape, cheekbone strucutre and face contour and dress sense and language LOL. The difference is their DNA (one is O3 and the other O2b). Do Swedes/Germans share similar dna?

          • jon775

            Dress sense and language, obviously, but not eye shape or face structure. Han Chinese don’t look the same and you will find all sorts of eye shapes among han Chinese. They are not genetically homogeneous. The Chinese in northeast China and Koreans have overlapping features. Only when you get to the southern part of China can you start to see a clear difference. There are also overlapping features between Japanese and Koreans.

          • Jennster

            what i mean by han chinese is the pure ones that resided near the yellow river and moved down to the yangtze. their eyes still look different to a koreans if you look closely. even easier if there is eyelid.

          • RAWR

            Your statement is silly. There is no such thing as a pure Han Chinese considering they’ve been mixing with other people in China for 5000 years. China’s first dynasty, the Qin, were a non-Yellow River Valley people who originated as nomadic horsemen.

          • Jennster

            han dynasty is origin of the han chinese which originated from the yellow river and absorbed those from the yangtze. That is why the capital was at the middle of the country at xi’an. look at the ‘japanese and korean share similar dna’ articles also where the han chinese occupied the similar land mass at the time.
            Btw, are you Chinese?
            You seem to be clueless about our history.

          • Zappa Frank

            do you have an idea about europe history? yes we can say we share a lot of DNA. I’m quite sure than even see a difference among a german, spanish, french or italian is not that easy.

          • RAWR

            Korean traditional dress is actually derived from Han Chinese dress, whereas modern Chinese dress is derived from Manchurian dresses (a group in northeast China/Korea).

          • linette lee

            Han dress is han dress. How does han dress look anything like manchurian dress. The chinese wear both dress during different era.

            han dress
            http://www.ellemagasin.com/images/wpic/8/458_p_g430.jpg

            manchurian dress
            http://www.popularasians.com/forum/content/attachments/46661d1318309340-tracy-ip-war-beauty-2.jpg/

            Now we all just wear qipao for special occasion such as chinese new year or on our wedding day.
            http://www.mic-chic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/218213544415598870_1zSeGxwd_f.jpg

          • linette lee

            Agreed, White people look like white people. Black people look like black.people. Asian people look like asian people. You can’t tell until they open their mouth. but they do have that “stereotype” look.
            Like swedish other people will assume you are blonde. Italian other people will assume darker complexion…. etc…But it’s never 100%.

          • mr.wiener

            The swede will probably have better English.

          • Well…to “hess” I must sound like Sheldon always telling Raj about India culture but, in fact, there are alot less blondes in Sweden than people think. I suppose this myth was started because of the number of famous actresses coming from Sweden that were blonde.
            hess: When I lived in Sweden, it seemed that your country had a pretty open immigration policy as long as immigrants agreed to assimilate into Swedish culture and society. They were not allowed to form ghettoes or “China-towns” and made to spread out where the apartment complex just had (for example, 1 Turkish family among the Swedish tenants. Now you say it’s 22% non-Swedes….have they just given up on this policy?

          • hess

            Theres loads of “ghettos” in Sweden. (with “ghetto” I mean areas that consists of mostly “non-ethnic” swedes). And I know theres less blondes in Sweden than people think, I have brown hair and brown eyes myself. You can google “Rosengård” and see how thats a perfect example of why you should assimilate people and not let them cramp in and form their own ghettos.

          • Germandude

            So in Sweden it seems to be the same as in Germany. Turkish and Arabs sticking inside their community, whole streets of pure foreign families and shops and later on complaining how bad the government/society did on integrating them?

            Well, at least we are not alone then…

          • Oh…I knew you knew that,(about blondes, I mean) I was replying to mr.wiener. I just remember right before I left there was a TV show about how alot of Turks were clustering in a small city(Linkoping, I think) and people were concerned and after reading about Rosengard, it seems they were right. I had always thought that the way Sweden required assimilate immigrants was one of the smart things they did. (even though it would never work in USA) It seems sad that that it was allowed to spiral out of control.

          • rollin wit 9’s

            så mycket skitsnack ey. If he can tell he can tell.
            Walking down the street in HK, I spotted a girl inside a deli and knew she was korean and all i could see was her back! Went in to test my balls, and sure enough she was speaking korean. vad säger du nu?

        • hess

          if he were eating a baguette while wearing a black and white striped shirt i could

        • Jennster

          I can tell north europeans apart from say an anglo british face. Germans have more coutour in their features.
          You are right Taiwanese and Koreans make up the most foreigner population in China. Yes they will be considered laowais as well.

          • Periandros

            >I can tell north europeans apart from say an anglo british face.

            No you can’t.

          • Arianna

            Taiwanese being considered laowais in china?? Are you kidding?

    • 3ayo

      It would. A lot more chaotic given how rare BWAM relations are, and hell Black/Asian in general. I would’ve had to come into this discussion ready for a battle. lol :D

      • SuperHappyCow

        Not nearly as rare as people think. It would just seem as such considering that European and Asian people develop relationships at an extreme rate.

        • 3ayo

          Well I suppose it depends on area. I haven’t been to the west coast, but have lived in the south, mid-west and east coast and haven’t seen many. I have heard though it’s a common occurrence in the Caribbean, and of course among many of the Chinese workers in African nations.

      • Zappa Frank

        Black women and asian men? in africa is not that rare..

        • 3ayo

          I just said that in my other response.

    • Well in Chinese education at the present time…a “foreigner” still describes a white guy. An american friend, a former philosophy teacher told me once he made the following experiment: he asked american kids and chinese(from china) kids to draw A FOREIGNER, the result was that the american children were unable to draw a “foreigner” based on that sole information, they (obviously) needed a bit more (like at least skin color) however the Chinese kids drew (obviously) a white guy with a big nose because that’s what they are taught foreigners are. The aim of this experiment was just to see if this aspect of Chinese education had improved in the recent year, it hasn’t a lot. I can already hear fanatics going to tell me that we are sarcastic china haters bla bla bla, but au contraire i love it.
      Another anedocte which was funny, probably less funny for the black guy it involved in China: I saw a black student in Sichuan university in 2009, don’t know which country he was from since i didn’t talk to him but the 2 kids playing nearby obviously knew that he was a “黑国人”! hahaha which mean “black country guy”
      He wasn’t very happy about it and told the kids there is no such thing. Ah kids!! still it’s a bit sad….

    • Alain

      I’d agree, the guy’s mom had pictures of white people on her fridge. If natalie was non white, an indian or arab or of afro carribean heritage, I would bet the parental reaction would be VERY different!

    • Silent Observer

      word

  • dim mak

    Ah, but would you date someone darker than you?

    I’ve had a few Indians, female and male

    Highly recommended :3

  • El Puma R.

    What impressed me the most about this video is how open minded and nice The guy’s parents are… so the result you get is a nice guy who can actually be likable in the eyes of western women. I don’t know about other parts of china but here in dongbei it’s really hard to see people like that. I liked it very much, for a moment it made me see China from a different perspective.

    • Gay Azn Boi

      What if he brought home a black girl? :p

      • Chell-bell

        I also wonder abut this. I would like to know other peoples opinion on this? Is it acceptable as long as the foreigner is white? or is it universal/ a foreigner is a foreigner is a foreigner?

        • Kai

          It’s safe to say that a whole damn lot of Chinese are discriminatory and prejudiced against blacks or darker skin colors (even amongst their own people) so no, there are certainly differences between foreigners in such Chinese eyes. You’ll have Chinese who can accept all foreigners, some who can accept none, some who will only accept other Asian foreigners, or some who can be won over if you or your family are good/successful/wealthy/influential/ridiculously good looking people.

          • Chell-bell

            Ah I see…. I should have assumed for a reply like that… Ill hold off from meeting my bf parents until I’m either successful, wealthy or influential :/ god help me..

          • Kai

            LoL, I think your boyfriend will know better than I would. Talk to him about it and see what he thinks. If he wants you to meet his parents, I’d say that’s a good sign. The successful/wealthy/influential thing is common to most people, not just the Chinese. The average person and parent in this world will admire and value practical real-world things like success, wealth, and influence…but I was more or less making light of things with that (hence the “ridiculously good looking” part). Whether or not you’ll be accepted depends on a large number of things, not just whether or not you’re a foreigner or not.

            Even if being a foreigner is one factor, other factors will usually be involved. They’ll likely care first and foremost about whether or not you’re good to their son, if you seem to take care of him and have his interests and well-being in heart. They’ll care about whether or not you look healthy and can bear children. They’ll care about what your job is, your educational background, and your family background. Overall, odds are that his parents will consider and look for much of the same things your parents would consider and look for in your boyfriend. There will be some differences, but most of the time, its overall not that different. There just might be some different priorities. Talk to your boyfriend about it. Good luck whenever you guys do meet the potential in-laws.

  • AJJ

    Super-awesome adorableness.

  • My older sister is so fat.
    Everybody say it: HOW FAT IS SHE?
    Ok…..my older sister is so fat, there is a photo of my 3 other sisters squeezed together into a single pair of her jeans. (I am not joking) She got married to a Japanese guy who is about 5’3″ and 97 pounds dripping wet and was pretty normal and so for awhile my family thought it was a scam marriage for a green card. But we kept quiet about it since she seemed happy enough and was old enough to make her own decisions and frankly we were just glad that she had somebody despite the disturbing images of what goes on in their bedroom. That was in 1998 and fast-forward to going on 15 years later and they are still married and going strong.They bought a house together in 2007 and the guy got his US citizenship a long time ago, so they certainly proved us wrong and are just a regular couple despite the huge height/weight difference.
    Just goes to show that “every pot has a lid”.

    • mr.wiener

      Is she so fat she once went down the beach , sat down, got up and walked 100 yards before she realized she had a skinny guy wedged between her arse cheeks?

      Is she so fat her belt size is “The equator”?
      Is she so fat when she gets on the scales to weigh herself the scales read “get off me,you fat bitch!”
      Ok… that’s out of my system. My sister is big too and tall. She tops out at just under 6″ and married and Irishman built like a tree stump, a short tree stump. 5 kids later and still going strong.

      • haha…yep…something like that. I’d say she’s about 5’6″ and 275 pounds. The odd thing is she never was at a loss for men. She was always bringing her latest boyfriends to Thanksgivings and Christmas and they were all normal looking and slim. 1 guy was a guitar player in a pretty popular band(TSOL) and could probably score alot of hot girls but I guess he just had thing for the “Plus-sized Ladies”. Go figure.

        • guess she must have a good personality. though you are her sister/brother and yours seems not so good. ^_^

          • Yeah, maybe you’re right, random Internet person that I never met before :(

          • mr.wiener

            Careful LW! A quick check of his disqus account showed he has 575 comments and 3100 points [gasp!]

            The schwanz is indeed strong with this one, hence his propensity…nay, his right to form snap opinions of others and generalize mightily.

            He even does little pictographs :0 (!) He might find your lack of faith disturbing and choke you telekineticaly.

            I really shouldn’t have eaten all those sugary foods this afternoon.

          • sniff…sniff…. All I ever wanted was to be loved….sniff….is that so wrong?

          • Akhemu

            how is it that you manage to get so much point for so little comment? is it bribery? or youre just well like? hm well which is it!? share with us your secret! we demand it!

          • SuperHappyCow

            Bazinga!

        • Kate

          You know many men are into big girls. They just like the body size like how some guys like rail thin, some guys like heavy and I think most guys like normal. But yeah there are men who love fat girls….kinda odd that it was a japanese dude cause in my experience, asian men, out of all men,tend to like slim and small girls but then again when I was in korea, I saw a really fat korean girl, like 200 lbs, with a really sexy muscular korean guy. I guess the dude was into more curves.

          Everyone has a type ^_^

      • DavidisDawei

        Reminds me of the time I was in line behind BBW, and stamped on her jeans was a Big “GUESS”. I turned to my buddy and said ” What do you think 250?

  • B*tches, Leave

    I’m Asian and I have an European girlfriend (I won’t tell nationalities) … there’re guys out there, who have a fetish for Asian girls … I have a fetish for White girls … only thing what makes me super-duper mad is the gawkers on the street … once a bus stopped in front of us and everyone in there was looking at us holding hands (even pointing fingers like in a zoo) … eh, China China … I love you and I hate you :D

  • patko

    The guy looks enlightened I bet he has an impeccable character.

  • Bluethunder

    ”最后是包容,对吧“ This was translated as, “Last of all, be able to forgive each other.” I think it’s better translated as, “Lastly, there should be tolerance, isn’t that right?” 包容 bao rong implies tolerance, 原谅 yuan liang implies forgiving for something done wrong. It’s an important sentence because Natalie appears to cry from this statement from the father, as depicted in the clip.

  • paneraman

    how many films will it make when it films chinese girls with African/Arab boyfriends….

  • I respectfully disagree. (So good for me,right?) If you think American girls have monopoly on drama queens then you are “nuttier than a fruitcake”. My first Chinese gf had to be disarmed 4 times for trying to stab me (I could have left but nowhere to go) and I finally walked out when she snuck up on me and dumped a Thermos of boiled water on the back of my head. Luckily, my hoodie kept the hot magma water from going down my back and kept the burns to a minimum.Walked out with the clothes on my back and 42 kuai in my wallet and 1 electric guitar. Went back the next day to find the rest of my equipment destroyed and the only clothes were the ones that I had sent to the laundry and the nearly 1,000 dollars she was going to change to rmb……gone. Most people on this forum will think I must have deserved it but, in fact, I had only been here a little over a week, not nearly long enough to really develop an attitude about the place. Now, in 11 years I’ve had several nice girlfriends but that first girl wasn’t the only wacko. Glad that things are working out for you, though.

    • Akhemu

      what happen to the girl now? is she in jail or she has become a completely new person? people with extreme behaviour like this usually turn out into a murderer/something just as grave or a extremely nice person who rarely gets angry anymore and try to do good things no matter how little. When I read it, the girl reminds me of me 5 to 6 months ago. I was like that too my rage from small hatred it grows worse and worse until a lawyer and police were tracking me for what I did and about to do. The reason I didnt become a murderer or something worse, was because whenever I see news of murderer and I read the detail or watch some documentary that involve worst kind of criminal, even watching movie, I actually see myself as those villain and not in a nice way. In a disgusted way. I was so disgusted I actually cried and decided to change. I ‘ woke up’ and try to repent for every single thing that I did to everyone, i became nice, more caring and not easily angered. Even tried to find religion (didnt work out) but I found art and unknown artist instead (like you). So with that girl she will either be so disgusted that she will change completely or she will become one of the human scum, since her behaviour is not average but extreme, so the change will also be extreme.

      Anyway just want to share something about me here, I never done it before in csmack, never thought id say it but its good to be… good. (because being good is so boring you know, well it used to be)

      • haha…..it’s funny you should ask about her, Fire (can I still call you that?) since I was just out walking and ran into a friend of hers a few minutes ago. At the time, she had warned me that wacko girl apparently tried to hire some cops to have me chopped up and dumped in the river so. It was probably all bullshit but I was new here and didn’t know if it was serious or not so for a coupla weeks I lived a kind of underworld life sneaking out early in the morning to buy a baodze for 1 kuai. I didn’t know how long I was going to have to stretch out that 42 yuan. I couldn’t even call my family to send some cash and a ticket out of here. In 2002, to call USA you had to go to the China Telecom and pay 75 kual for 3 minutes and 25 per additional minute. I had never used a computer in my life and didn’t have e-mail. So I was in quite a predicament. When the wacko girl’s family was told about the water scalding incident and subsequent “murder-for-hire” they sent her away to Shenzhen. I have been fortunate in that I’ve never had the pleasure of running into her ever since, though it is something I always dread. Though it was only 10 years ago, I’m certain that all these foreigners that show up here with their iPhones and GPS and Skype on their Macbooks could never relate to my situation. Anyway, her friend hasn’t mentioned any trouble about the girl so hopefully she has changed but I doubt it and think it would just take somebody pressing the right buttons and she’ll be making the headlines.
        I appreciate you sharing a part of yourself here…. I can only say that we all have a dark side and it is good that you are concious about what can happen if you’re not diligent with your life. I would like to recommend 2 books for you that I consider mandatory for anybody striving to become a human being. “The 9th Configuration” by William Peter Blatty and “Veronika Decides To Die” by Paulo Coelho, (They made movies of both those books and they suck. Read the books) My other advice is…..avoid that “mr. wiener” guy. He’ll make you do bad things :)

        • mr.wiener

          Never trust a sausage maker…..MWuhwahwahwahwa!!

        • Akhemu

          Of course, call me Fire. You have a colourful past Little Wolf, how
          is it that you manage to survive in that situation? did you sell your
          guitar for extra money or found a part time job? and how did you pay for
          the lodging or did you move out of the place and stay on the street?
          that would be damn impressive. Given that you are new there and without
          contact it must have been difficult, to be alone in a new place, with no
          way to communicate with anyone that can support you and to survive, you
          either found luck or you are really street smart and willful against
          fate! Not to mention just surviving on bao and fear of murder. If you
          are a foreigner you probably feel like you cant rely on local police
          because they will only side with the local. Just in case one day I or
          others find themselves in this situation we at least have some guideline
          based on your experience. Ill check out those books, thanks Little
          Wolf. haha mr.wiener, hes Aussie isnt he? he posted his picture in some
          thread forgot which one looks like Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine. He probably like west coast eagle too.

          • Well, I had met a Filipino guy who had a small bar and he let me crash on a cot in the back until her friend(the girl I ran into yesterday) came by and told me it was safe and her father was a Dean of English at a local university and she set me up with some little gigs going to some middle schools and just chatting with the students and I was able to call my family and get back on track and the rest…..well I guess we’ll have to wait til the movie comes out :)
            To be honest, I had been in worse and more serious jams before and as a result I’ve learned that it’s amazing what you can do and the hardships you can face when you don’t have any other choice. In that way, I suppose that I am lucky in that I was able to appreciate the lessons I’d learned. I keep this on my screen-saver to remind me every day:

            Why do I succeed?
            I succeed because I am willing to do the things you are not.
            I will fight against the odds.
            I will sacrifice.
            I am not shackled by fear, insecurity or doubt.
            I feel those emotions—drink them in and then swallow them away to the blackness of hell.
            I am motivated by accomplishment, not pride.
            Pride consumes the weak—kills their heart from within.
            If I fall, I will get up. If I am beaten, I will return.
            I will never stop getting better. I will never give up, ever.
            That is why I succeed
            Still have the guitar, it’s just a basic ESP/LTD H-100 but it’s really comfy and besides it’s been with me on 4 continents so I’d probably sell 1 of my sisters before I’d give up that guitar. Also, it has magical powers and the only way to kill mr. weiner is to plunge it through his heart.

          • mr.wiener

            My heart is located behind my left knee and doesn’t pump blood as you understand it but more a sticky kind of ketchup like substance which is converted to mustard as it goes around my circulatory system.

          • SuperHappyCow

            Bro, you’re fucking crazy. : P

          • Akhemu

            haha yeah, hell, ill watch it, it has a lot of interesting element… a la Lawrence of Arabia but more as a survivalist, they dont make this kind of movie anymore.. that’s too bad…

            This principle you shared, its powerful, it moved me, I feel it when I read it, its poetic… thank you for sharing this. I will keep this in mind. Much appreciated.

    • I agree on Chinese girls being nutcases too!

      and “nuttier than a fruitcake” is a nice touch

  • Guest

    First of all I don’t subscribe to any of this negative stereotype. I’m a Chinese guy and I’ve dated five Chinese girls in the past and one white girl. I’ve also met many Chinese guys who have partners too. I have encountered plenty of Chinese men who are equally just as aggressive in getting their girls as many other men are alike. The difference is Asian/Chinese men just don’t reveal themselves much and they’re often quiet and reserved type of people making it look like they appear weak.

    It has nothing to do with race, it is decades of propaganda coined by Westerners propagating negative stereotypes that Asian men can’t do this, White men can do that, Asian girls go for this, and all. All it is, everyone is subscribing to these absurd artificial stereotypes.

    For everyone’s information, both Asian men and women are attracted to each other even those those Asian men and women who might say they are attracted to people outside their race.

    A lot of people are wondering why there are more WM-AF than there are AM-WF? The answer is very simple, Asian men especially Chinese in particular is, they care about looking after their own heritage.

    Statistically (and fortunately), there are more AM-AF couples than there are WM-AF & AM-WF combined simply because like attracts like.

  • didn’t see many of those in 2.5 years in China…but fair enough

  • Beijinger in Shanghai

    Nice looking couple. And nice propaganda from the EU.

  • JankyFosci

    In before a million insecure comments attacking Chinese men. Oh wait…

  • Periandros

    On another note…

    Does anyone else find it funny how the same Chinese and Koreans in the US who refer to Japan and Japanese as ‘Jjokbari/Xiao Riben’ etc, rant and rave about ‘Dokdo’ and the ‘Diaoyutai’, claim the Japanese are ‘hairy dwarves’ and that they ‘gave them all their culture’ which the Japanese then ‘stole’ have the audacity to turn around and claim Japanese and Japanese-American women as their own personal property who are ‘off limits’ to white men?

    Chinese/Korean-American men are freaking hilarious sometimes. Just from an observational standpoint I mean. Even my dog is more mature.

  • Kate

    Yup always at least one bitter white guy that tries to start a thread on hatin those awful white bitches (is your mom one of those too?)

    Dude think whatever you want but I can assure you that you don’t need to be feeling some sense of pity for my korean husband cause I treat my man right, he gets a great dinner every night, a spotless house, sex daily, a beautiful child, I keep myself groomed and slim and we are incredibly close and love each other dearly and rarely argue. But its cool, just try not to fall off your little pedastool.

    All the great white girls out there didn’t and don’t want you anyway, frankly I find men of any race that has so much bitterness and hate towards a whole group of women that is comprised of millions of individuals disturbing and scary.

    • Periandros

      To be fair, white girls who date asian guys do the same thing but in reverse.

      • Kate

        Yeah ok sure whatever you think, sad troll.

        • Periandros

          So you’re claiming only white men do this, not white women in relationships with asian men?

          • Kate

            I don’t know about any am/wf relationship other then my own, so I really don’t know what other white women say in their private lives about any topic. I know I don’t put white men down, my brother, father, etc are all white guys and I love them all. I can safely say I feel no insecure, bitter need to put down white guys cause I am married to an asian guy. I have nothing against white guys, they’re just people too. Some are great and some are awful but the awful ones don’t represent all the great ones. The same is true about white women and black and asians and hispanics and cats.

            However I do notice whenever The topic of white women followed about asian women, there always seems to be a few bitter white guys who can’t seem to praise the good qualities of one entire race then turn around and villianfy and demonize an entirely other race as everything vile in one sweeping generalization That seems to stem from deep seated resentment.

          • mr.wiener

            *Sigh*….Guys….. there are psycho bitched from hell and areshole men in every race. No particular culture has the copyright on this one.

          • Periandros

            I do agree with you about how these men demonize white women. That’s not fair, but white women do it too in reverse.

            In my experience, East Asian females are probably a bit less promiscuous than White Females, but also demand a hell of a lot more in terms of money and material goods.

          • Guest

            have you ever been married?

          • dk2020

            I totally agree Kate .. I’m an Asian American man and I’ve never dated a white girl but I’m perfectly happy with my Chicana wifey. I love Mexican food and culture growing up in LA its hard not to be influenced. But I don’t knock Asian women and i have dated Korean, Viet, Japanese, Filipinas .. I’m attracted to who i can relate to having the same strong family values ..Periandros, I’ll tell you this right now if you’re going to love Asian women but hate the men and culture you’re going to have a really hard time making that relationship last ..

  • Nilerafter24

    I really don’t know why anyone would concern themselves with the relationship of another person.
    You have no claim to anyone’s life unless you helped give birth to them.
    You have absolutely no right to feel bad/good/proud/ashamed/angry/jealous about someone else’s love life.
    No person on this Earth is born for your personal benefit and mental comfort. This indignation felt by butt-hurt people is downright ridiculous.
    If I date a white/Asian woman (I’m black), no one has the right to feel anything at all about our relationship. No one apart from my girlfriends parents have claim to her life. She can do whatever the f*** she chooses. Society shouldn’t dictate her life choices or preferences.
    If you’re one of those people who says ”our women” or ”our men” when referring to the opposite sex of your race, then you really are shallow. You don’t own anyone.

    If you’re not getting attention from a woman of a different race that you desire, then you’re not trying hard enough. If gay people could break out of the social mold that only so recently had them bound to a life of ridicule and hate, then no one should bring up the excuse of race.
    Yes, the influence of media and existing stereotypes is undeniable and means that almost all non-whites are dealt an unfair card but life isn’t fair and never will be. Those who have risen above and succeeded know it’s true.

    I’m happy for this couple because they are living proof of a changing world. Soon, our world will be clean of bigots, racists and race purists and people will be able to love whoever they want without prejudice and malice.

    • Periandros

      >Soon, our world will be clean of bigots, racists and purists

      Nope. The only people among whom racial tribalism is considered taboo are whites. The non-Western world is racially tribal and always will be. Go to Hong Kong, go to Singapore, go to Seoul, these are all advanced, developed places, yet racial tribalism will always be the rule there.

      Non-whites in Western countries quite happily take advantage of the self-destructive altruism of whites, pushing racial tribalism amongst themselves politically, socially and culturally whilst demanding whites be aracial ‘universalists’.

      Reminds me of that Solzhenitsyn quote:

      “Before the camps I regarded the existence of nationality as something that shouldn’t be noticed – nationality did not really exist, only humanity. But in the camps, one learns: if you belong to a successful nation, you are protected and you survive. If you are part of universal humanity, too bad for you.”

      – Alexander Solzhenitsyn, 200 Years Together.

      • Nilerafter24

        First of all, not all white countries consider racial tribalism taboo. Ever heard of Eastern Europe?
        Secondly,
        the non-western world is not necessarily racially tribal. This only
        depends on the racial make-up of the peoples in a given country. America
        doesn’t tolerate racial tribalism because it is essentially a migrant
        country and not a white country. And what you may think is a push for
        racial tribalism among minorities is merely just a reaction to years of
        prejudice against minorities. A call for unity in a hostile environment.
        It will die off soon. There’s no way white people will ever be slaves
        or victims in their own countries. They’re too smart for that.

        Lastly,
        I understand what you’re getting at. White countries seem to be the
        only ones that have to accept everyone with 100% tolerance right? Well,
        history has its implications and consequences. This is what happens
        when you spread your culture, language and try to conquer the whole
        world.
        It could have been Asians and the result would be the same.
        With China being some kind of USA, Japan a Britain and USA some kind of
        China etc

        But my overall point is that we as humans can evolve
        past racial lines and see each other as we once did. We all have the
        same origin. The same homo erectus that evolved into homo sapien, the
        human, which we all are. If difference in melanin levels can cause such
        pain and hate, then we are not yet fully intellectually developed as a
        species and still have a long way to go.

        • Periandros

          >This is what happens
          when you spread your culture, language and try to conquer the whole
          world.

          By your own logic, shouldn’t Mongolians be wiped out as a racial group in their own homeland too?

          Your ‘consequences’ only make sense if you view the world through a liberal prism.

          >A call for unity in a hostile environment. It will die off soon.

          No it won’t. You don’t seem to understand that 1) Racial balkanization is INCREASING in the United States and that 2) There is no ‘set period’ when white people are going to be ‘let off the hook’. That was never the intention. The intention of victim politics is to create unfalsifiable, unquantifiable standards like ‘white privilege’ and run with them. Grievance politics doesn’t have an end. Nor is this some kind of ‘natural reaction’. It’s not natural for people to hate their ancestors and feel ashamed for being successful. The Romans didn’t do that, the Greek didn’t, the Persians didn’t, the Muslims certainly didn’t during the Arab and Ottoman Caliphates.

          • Reila90

            “By your own logic, Shouldn’t Mongolians be wiped out as a racial group in their own homeland too?”

            There’s a lot of differences between Mongolian empire and western imperialism. Mongolian empire accept diversity of religion, culture, and ethnicity. Also, Mongolian empire didn’t commit race cleansing and race replacing. Check your fact. Historically speaking, western imperialism did the most successful in spreading their culture and language to whole world.(without mention the bad things)

          • Periandros

            >Also, Mongolian empire didn’t commit race cleansing and race replacing.

            Yeah, except when people resisted.

            Even conservative estimates put the number of people killed as a result of the various Mongol invasions at 40 million.

            Re: Diversity – All Empires accept ‘diversity’, otherwise they’d be homogeneous nations, not Empires. The world Empire implies a territory ruled over by one group with a multiracial population underneath. All Empires ‘accept’ this to various degrees. The British Raj certainly ‘accepted’ the inherent diversity of India insofar as it didn’t challenge British supremacy there for example.

            The tendency to set Western Imperialism apart comes from a desire from leftists to establish European Colonialism as something uniquely evil, and therefore something deserving of a unique response (i.e. the democide of White Europeans).

            Let’s not forget the various peoples the Chinese wiped out to the last man, woman and child: Baoyue, Sogdonians etc.

          • Reila90

            “Yeah, except when people resisted.”
            No. What they fought are only everyone who interfere them. The Khans have no interest even slight for race cleansing and race replacing. Only soil. Scholarly review can reinforce what I am saying.
            “All Empires accept ‘diversity’,”
            lol talk about the Brits, Portuguese, French, etc..
            “Let’s not forget the various peoples the Chinese wiped out to the last man, woman and child: Baoyue, Sogdonians etc”
            What essay is this? There is no “Chinese” in central Asia. For centuries China never step his feet outside Xinjiang territory.

          • Periandros

            >lol talk about the Brits, Portuguese, French, etc.

            We can, quite happily, the British Empire tolerated diversity insofar as it didn’t threaten its hegemony. That’s the same for every Empire.

            >What they fought are only everyone who interfere them.

            Which happened to be everyone who didn’t accept total surrender and tribute-payments between Beijing and the Duchy of Moscow.

            >The Khans have no interest even slight for race cleansing and race replacing.

            As part of a grand strategy? No. But that was the end result of their policies.

            >There is no “Chinese” in central Asia

            Uh, this doesn’t address the fact the nascent Chinese in the early Imperial period wiped out numerous ethnic groups such as the Baoyue and Sogdonians (Ran Min’s policy towards them is analagous to modern day definitions of genocide, deal with it).

          • Reila90

            “We can, quite happily, the British Empire tolerated diversity insofar as it didn’t threaten its hegemony. That’s the same for every Empire.”
            Slavery, Aborigin, Indian, etc..

            Btw are you seriously have a knowledge in history? all of your essay merely artificial with no written evidence. I could backup some written evidence of my previous comments FYI.

          • Periandros

            >Slavery, Aborigin, Indian

            Are you implying Southeast Asian slaves didn’t exist in China? Most of the slaves who worked on the Great Wall in Qin’s era were of Central Asian Caucasoid descent (possibly proto-Turkic), not Chinese. Anthropological studies on the mass graves that exist there confirm this.

            As for the aborigines, they still exist, the Baoyue do not. Not sure what you mean about the Indians.

            >no written evidence

            What particular assertion would you like me to provide evidence for, butthurt friend?

          • Reila90

            Again, you are wrong. If you mean “Chinese”, i implying the Han ethnic. The last dynasty is Qin/Qinq and they are nomads not Han(which by your term is Chinese). The last great wall was made in Ming era(This is Han btw). The reason for Great Wall to exist is to counter all the northern nomads like Mongol, Turkic, Manchus, etc.. And this wall was made by all indigenous(include Han) without any contact with Nomads whatsoever.

            “As for the aborigines, they still exist, the Baoyue do not. Not sure what you mean about the Indians.”

            Re-read my previous comment. And see what’s the subject.

            “What particular assertion would you like me to provide evidence for, butthurt friend?”

            LOL. Be sourceful or otherwise you the one whose appear to be butthurt troll.

          • Periandros

            You didn’t address any of my questions, you just went off at a tangent about nomenclature, which I never disputed.

      • Web_of_Lies

        Get real, White people are just as racially tribalistic as any other race. Stop putting yourself on a pedestal as if you are an exemplar of righteousness.

        • Periandros

          >just as racially tribalistic

          Not true, there isn’t an expectation of aracialism from dominant majorities in non-western countries because there isn’t a pop culture that pushes that particular meme.

          Please go back to your ‘asian american studies’ and leave the rest of us alone. Maybe you can bitch about WM/AF in an academic setting if you make it all the way!

  • aoko

    they seem like a good couple :)

  • Jennster

    Watch this Qing Dynasty drama, nearly every single one of the ‘prince’ are good looking. WOW

  • Cynic

    chinese men stay away from our pure teutonic women.

    • Reila90

      White people stay away from Asian girls too please.

      • mr.wiener

        Knock it on the head the both of you :(

      • Cynic

        I see you and I are thinking along the same lines. Me likes.

  • Alexander

    A little too fixated on this topic, its a dead horse, time to accept and move on…

  • Ha! She’s missing out……though I guess at least it’s less dangerous than dating a black guy.

    • mr.wiener

      ….Spoken from experience…?

      • No, I just surveyed your mom.

        • mr.wiener

          If my mother was indeed still alive I’m sure she would have had no complaints about black men if she had ever gone out with one, But that would have been unlikely in Australia in the 1950’s
          I was wondering where you got your stats on the dangers of dating black guys? What the other guys told you at “chimpout” isn’t hard empiric evidence I’m sorry.
          I’ll leave your mum out of it. My parents raised me better than that.

          • I grew up in a majority black neighborhood, that’s my evidence. I don’t even think there are more than 1,000 Africans in the whole of Australia, so don’t generalize against me when you yourself are ignorant and haven’t been exposed to the world.

          • linette lee

            You are a freaking moron. You think you are superior than black men because you are white? You probably have a brain the size of a fxcking pigeon. You’re lucky this is online chat because in real life I won’t even waste my time answering to a bird brain like you. The last time I check obama is the leader who is running a nation of world super power. Go climb back into your little hole and stop spreading dumb words from that dumb brain of yours.

          • Word…you tell him Linette! He’s the product of inbreeding…many of those here in America unfortunately that shouldn’t use a computer

          • mr.wiener

            Very well you have my apologies for assuming you were an armchair bigot. I’ve never lived in a predominately black neighborhood on the other hand I’ve never lived in a trailer park . It would probably be unfair to generalize either race based on these experiences.
            Africans are the latest wave of migrants to reach Oz [mainly Sudanese], and as with all the earlier waves of migrants there has been some friction which will probably get worse if [when?] our economy tanks.

    • Chell-bell

      …dafuq?

  • Jahar

    Do you mean mainlanders? or just ethnic(han) chinese? i find handsome mainlanders to be extremely uncommon, but ABCs, taiwanese, HKers to be better looking. But in any case, with over 700 million of them, even 1 in 1000 being handsome that still adds up

  • 平凡人

    Nice, I can see why AJ would prefer a foreign gal. She seems simple and down to earth which is rare in Beijing.

  • this was a nice story, stop trolling.

  • Nick Tan

    Hi Jason. It is a great work that you made this short film and post. I really love it, can I re-post it in Tieba of Baidu? We, a group of guys who marry or date foreign girls, set up a discussion board at Tieba which mainly focus on stories like this and also the cultural relevant articles and pictorials. We will appreciate if you can let us repost this story.

    • Kai

      Hey Nick, yes, please go ahead and repost this. Jason and everyone involved in making the films, including the EU Delegation in China, definitely want these videos to be seen and discussed about. Otherwise, why make it, right? Post it up and come back and share the link with us.

  • lemerchant

    lol as if europe isn’t cultural marxists enough, brussels is trying to flog their multiculti on china.

    i suppose it could be worse, at least it isn’t racemixing with blacks.

    come to think of it, seeing white women with asians is infinitely more satisfying than seeing white women bandwagon liberal propaganda and sleep with the nearest black or muslim they come across.

    • SuperHappyCow

      Fucked two white girls in Beverly Hills yesterday. So easy, too.

      Mmm mmm. :>

  • einnius

    .i really like white girls

  • It’d have been nice if they’d been able to find a gay couple…

  • Elf Queen

    That is so sweet.

    Go sister for all the girls and women who like them some Chinese,Korean,Japanese cuties.

    I have no preferences,all are delicious.

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