2012 Hong Kong Gay Pride Parade, Chinese Netizen Reactions

People in the parade.

From NetEase:

Hong Kong Homosexual Group Holds Parades to Appeal for Equal Rights

November 10, a Hong Kong homosexual group held an “Equal Rights for Gays” parade, the theme of the parade is “Gays Dare to Love”. People in the parade carrying signs and banners, started from Victoria Park, headed to Chater Garden in Central. They expressed that they’re striving for equal rights, including the right to marry.

Two gay men.

Gay people who participated in the parade said, “This year is very different, because many public friends have bravely come out of the closet. We hope they can be our examples, to make more gay people bravely step out, to make more people who know gay people understand that gay people are all like this, that gay people are ordinary people like us.”

A cross-dressing man.

A woman in the parade.

Gay dancers.

The parade.

According to the organizer, the scale of this year’s parade is bigger than last year. People who joined the parade include several Legislative Council members. And gay people who are from other areas of Asia also came to join the parade.

Some Hong Kong stars in the Gay Pride parade.

Gay people are parading in Hong Kong.

Hong Kong stars speaking on stage at a Gay Pride parade.

Many stars in Hong Kong participated.

He Yunshi is giving a speech.

He Yunshi [a famous singer & actress in Hong Kong] giving a speech during the event.

Reporters a taking photos.

Stars in the parade.

Stars in the parade.

Hong Kong stars in the Chater Park Gay Rights parade.

Comments from NetEase:

zlg990 [网易广东省深圳市网友]:

Personally, I think it’s better if you keep a low profile. Although I understand/accept you guys, there are still many people who oppose [homosexuality]!

fmy51 [网易辽宁省大连市网友]: (responding to above)

Something that is inherently against natural law and moral principles and yet you guys show off with such fanfare. Go ahead and fuck whoever you want to fuck, but you also want society to show you sympathy and support? Maybe the Family Planning Commission will…?

网易天津市网友 ip:125.39.*.*: (responding to above)

Stupid, allowing gays but forbidding lesbians has huge benefits…

zlg990 [网易广东省深圳市网友]:

At first, I thought the bald guy was Li Daimo [a famous contestant from the famous Chinese singing contest show “The Voice of China”, who is also gay.].

流氓小亨 [网易江西省九江市网友]:

So many? I’ve always thought it would be really satisfying to sleep between two lesbians and have them be props.

lhfeiqin [网易贵州省毕节地区毕节市网友]:

Gay friends walk together in life, those days are no more, one anus, one lifetime.

双飞一次短五米 [网易北京市网友]:

Today is a holiday, if the many diaosi can’t take it [bachelorhood, being single] anymore, then learn from our Hong Kong compatriots, and find a boyfriend to jerk it off.

[Note: This comment was made on November 11, which in China is known as Singles Day.]

网易山西省太原市手机网友 ip:218.26.*.*:

I don’t know how other people think, but I feel very disgusted seeing this.

平凡的果岭 [网易广西南宁市手机网友]:

I don’t support [homosexuality], nor am I against it, but I definitely oppose large-scale promotion, as it affects minors. Some people aren’t supposed to be gay at all, but go try it simply out of curiosity or to follow a crowd. You don’t have to be ashamed of this [being gay], but there’s absolutely nothing worth being proud of. Keep a low profile, it’s better for everybody.

A homosexual parade participant interviews with the media.

Comments from QQ:

腾讯深圳市网友 tiger:

I’m always trying to convince myself, to make myself regard and treat these people in a rational manner, but I’m very sorry, I can’t do it! To say it a little vulgarly, reproduction is the foundation for human existence, and the union of male and female is a rule of the nature. A human being both psychologically and physiologically normal wouldn’t do something this universally shocking, so there’s only one explanation: these people are sick! And gravely sick! It’s like a bunch of congenitally mentally handicapped yelling to other people all day: you should accept us, we are the normal products of human social development!!! I’m very sorry, you guys are wrong, you guys are those that will die off due to natural selection. You have the right to exist, but please, don’t presumptuously bring this virus to all the normal human beings!! Can I beg you guys to not do so, please?

腾讯巴彦淖尔市网友 画面ヾ定格在:

If we legalized marriage for you guys, would this world not descend into chaos?

腾讯网友 过往烟云……: (responding to above)

Actually, they’re also people, they too don’t themselves to have a problem, and they too want to be like ordinary people. It’s not like gay people are stealing, robbing, killing, or setting fires [committing crimes], so what is it about them that can’t be accepted? I think it’s not easy for them, too.

腾讯江苏省网友 漫步人生:

The foreigners [in the photos] are all there laughing at this joke. Sigh, I feel ashamed for our countrymen. But I kind of wish they were all male homosexuals, because this way, there would be more women [for the rest of us], and at least I’d no longer be celebrating Singles Day!

腾讯网友 灯火栏珊处:

What’s going on? Is homosexually no longer curable? No parents in the world want their children to be gay…

腾讯网友 小べ情歌:

This reminds me of Gor Gor Zhang Guorong [Leslie Cheung]… Why was Hong Kong media at that time so unwilling to be understanding of Gor Gor…

腾讯宁波市网友 超越:

Products of both psychological and physiologically perversion.

腾讯网友 只为单身‘狂:

How should I say this? We accept the existence of this phenomenon, but don’t encourage people to emulate it.

腾讯网友 钓鱼岛是我们:

How do “gays” love each other? Are these kind of people perverse/deviant/sick? Just sweep out this kind of garbage for good and be done with it, so they don’t pollute social morality! Those who support me, ding!

腾讯苏州市网友 雪野牧狼:

A sick product of a sick society!

What do you think? About homosexuality? About gay pride parades?

Homosexual men at a gay pride parade in Hong Kong in 2012.

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  • Cleo

    I’m just thinking of the potential for financial and immigration fraud especially by organized crime because there is even less cost to faking a homosexual marriage than there is a heterosexual one.

    • Germandude

      Oh god, please let it rain brain so that Cleo can be enlightened…

      • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

        I dunno, Germandude. I think Cleo makes a good point. She/(he?) didn’t oppose it(gay marriage) but just that there are some valid side effects that should be considered.

        • Germandude

          Ok, but could you then please explain to me how faking a homosexual marriage would be cheaper than faking a heterosexual one? I don’t know where Cleo is coming from and so, don’t know the laws of her country, but considering that in many countries, including Germany, homosexual marriages are not yet legal, one would assume that it’s more expensive for a gay person to first marry another from another gender in order to get a greencard/allowance to stay in the country and divorce at a later stage.

          Not 100% sure on this because I am not a legal expert but thanks to the EU, many gay couples marry legally in Denmark (1st country that allowed gay marriages). However their marriage status is not yet legally binding in Germany (and many other EU countries) and thus, not benefitting married gay couple tax-wise.

          If it wasn’t for our stupid president’s party, Germany would have advanced into the 21st century on this topic already.

          • dim mak

            Cleo has mental problems and should never be paid serious attention

            That must’ve been the one post in years he’s made without alluding to a Japanese conspiracy

          • Germandude

            Please forgive me for that I am not reading CS for that long. ;-)

          • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

            Yeah, I see your point. I suppose I’m looking from a USA standpoint although there are still many states that don’t recognize gay marriage. I suppose I didn’t think all the way through when I agreed with Cleo but for some reason I just feel it would be more difficult for authorities to spot a scam homosexual marriage. Please keep in mind I am not homophobic nor do I really feel compelled to make a real argument on the matter. It’s just a hunch.
            Btw…it’s not so much about the laws of Cleo’s country as it is the laws of his/her home planet

          • Germandude

            “I just feel it would be more difficult for authorities to spot a scam homosexual marriage.”

            I can’t follow this to be honest. How can anyone judge that? There are broken hetero marriages that are kept alive only for the reason of gaining tax benefits while literally being dead marriages for years already. Or there are people that marry and live years in different cities if not even countries. I wouldn’t know how it would be any different for authorities to spot a scam marriage no matter if homo- or heterosexual. Fakes and scams happen or can happen no matter what. Judging another person’s relationship is almost impossible, especially when some bloke from the local authorities is sitting behind his desk, judging on total strangers’ private life.

            I am not thinking that you are homophobic, neither am I. In fact, as a young guy I made a lot of jokes about “homos, gays, fags, whatever I called them”, just because all my soccer mates did so too. Later I had a good friend in school who was outing himself and the shit storm that got over him was unbearable but he was one of those guys that got the talent to make other people overcome their prejudices. And I also got to know some other gays/lesbians that were really suffering from all the prejudices and discrimination being thrown at them.

            I for myself came to the conclusion that you are either a cool person or you are not. Just don’t bother me if I tell you not to do so. I am married to a woman after all ;-)

          • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

            Ok….I have considered this and all I really meant was that Cleo brought up a side of gay marriage I had never considered and that there might be some new kinds of measures needed in order to determine if a gay marriage is a scam, though don’t really know what they would be.(Will the interviewer ask 1 of the applicants to suck his wife’s dick to make sure he’s really gay?)
            And I once got stuck with a gay dude at a house way out in the desert for a couple of hours waiting for my friend to come get me and it was no fun having this persistent fucker who wanted me….bad. Kept putting his hand on my leg and pleading ” Come on. Just try it.” He wasn’t a bad guy and I didn’t want to do violence on him, he was just annoying as hell. After that, I realized it must be awful to be a lady sometimes. I mean….to have some disgusting jerk hitting on you and touching your leg and not taking the hint that he’s wasting his time.

          • Germandude

            That awkward moment, when you are all alone with a gay not being able to run away ;-)

          • Genki

            Gay marriage is legal in Denmark since 2012. According to Wikipedia the first country in the world to legalize gay marriage is the Netherlands(2001) followed by Belgium(2003) ect. Guess i just wrote the most useless comment ever.

          • Germandude

            Mate I am confused now cause I don’t find the article again. If I remember correctly, Denmark allowed gay marriages since 1988. That’s the legal side. Since 2012, Denmark allowed gay couples additional rights.

            These laws permit gay and lesbian couples to get married in the Church of Denmark and go through the standard procedures. Legal wise, it was allowed since 1988 and acknowledged by the government.

  • Stoob

    Good luck to them! It’s nobody’s business who, where, why or how you get frisky with another consenting person. There’s always been gay people, there always will be gay people. Societies everywhere need to get over it!!

    • Shaniqua1990

      well they want to make it eveyrones business by having the parade in the first place…

      • http://www.facebook.com/alex.k.tso Alex Ka Wei Tso

        No, they have the parade because close-minded heterosexuals are the ones trying to tell them about things that are not their business… civilized heterosexuals simply don’t care, to be honest…

        • Shaniqua1990

          wut, looks like its the other way around given the huge parade and all

  • Zappa Frank

    anyone can do everything with his own ass. there may be a point that if gay lifestyle is relevant there may be less children, but it has no sense in china.. and besides gays are not that much to make this thing relevant.

  • Johnny_Basic

    It amuses me, reading the inane comments left by the locust netizens, as they dumbly try to make sense of something so utterly alien to them.

    Seriously, a mainlander casting his gormless gaze over civil society in action evinces about as much understanding as a pig looking at the insides of a watch.

    • mr.wiener

      That’s just mean! …but kinda funny too.

    • Zappa Frank

      are telling that in america or europe you would have different kind of comments? those are the same kind of commets you can find anywhere

      • ASDF

        NO. Your point is invalid because Chinese people are retarded pigs. Your comment is uncivilized because I hate mainland locusts. You cannot argue against me. I am the voice of internet reason. Ching Chong.

        • linette lee

          you hate mainland locusts but not all mainlanders are locusts. There are huge numbers of mainlanders who are not locusts living in harmony among other hk citizens. These mainlanders also contributes to hk gov’t and support hk gov’t.

          The trouble ones are those mainland tourists breaking hk laws and regulations. Calling hk people dogs and british wannabe. The worst ones are those who are pregnant make last minutes crash visit to the hk emergeny room to obtain hk id for their new born. They don’t pay tax to hk gov’t but will utilize all hk resource. Those are the real locusts.

          • MrT

            I HK next week so will take a big dump in the street. Then have a baby. All for free!

          • Kim

            why are you living in hk if you don’t like mainlanders? you should be in england with your english family, and sucking the poo poo out of a white englishman’s bum lol “mwah mwah mwah, how can i please you my white english master.. i hate all chinese people, i am not chinese, i am hong kongese” lol good one troll

          • Germandude

            Kim is the living proof that the one child policy also has its good side. Imagine his parents would’ve created another retard…

          • Kai

            Dang, you guys need to stop assuming certain people are mainland Chinese…

          • Germandude

            The way he is talking about Hong Kong(ers) leads me to believe that he’s indeed Chinese.

          • Kai

            Understandable, but you’d be surprised. It’s just really a bad idea to assume anyone is a mainlander on cS. The number of actual mainland Chinese commenters on cS is extremely low for some obvious reasons, like the language barrier. In fact, you have a better chance of being correct by accusing people of being trolls than mainlanders. Overall, just cautioning you guys not to jump to conclusions.

          • Germandude

            Come to think of it, what I said was: “Kim is the living proof that the one child policy also has its good side. Imagine his parents would’ve created another retard…”

            This is still a valid point, even if Kim is not a mainlander. Should he be German, I still feel bad thinking of his parents having created another retard. One is enough in his case I would assume.

            He is wishing others or their parents to get cancer, wants to put people into a gas chamber and throws other insults without bringing anything of value to a discussion. That’s upright trolling and deserves to be treated as such.

          • Kim

            What do you have against people from China? Did I say I was from there? Typical racist German lol how many Jews did your grandparents throw into the gas chamber over there? A few million? lmao HEIL HITLER!! lol

          • elizabeth

            Basically, as long as you hold a different opinion, you must be a stupid backward mainlander despite 5000 years of history.
            Don’t ask me why.

          • Kim

            HAHAHAHAH!!! I’m not from China.. I’m not even Chinese lol shows you how fucking dumb you are. Are you Chinese? If you hate Mainlanders, then you must hate your family too, troll.
            Now, your mother is going to fucking die of cancer because of your dumb comments. Stop trolling.

          • elizabeth

            Hold your horses Kim, I was just sharing my experience with you. Apparently, that makes me a cancerous troll :)

          • Kim

            lol

          • Jennster

            actually we don’t really care about english sites. most commentators who are pro-china are not even mainland chinese.

          • Kim

            germans like to eat shit, no? i heard scat porn is popular in germany?

          • Kim

            and the way you are talking leads me to believe germans like to eat eat shit

          • Jennster

            I may be critical of chinese from other regions on the internet but deep down i’d never deny my own heritage or talk/think that away about my fellow chinese in real life. Whenever you look down on your OWN people, think of how you get treated in a non chinese country in a similar way.
            However, I would prefer taiwanese and hongkongers who are overtly arrogant to stop calling us mainlanders but just Chinese. If you keep calling us mainlanders, non Chinese will think Chinese people keep fighting against each other and it is embarrassing, because most mainlanders are more united despite problems associated with how the govt handles it (erasing languages and identity etc).

          • linette lee

            Why do you consider “mainlander” a derogative term? When people use “mainlander” they are just telling you Chinese from China. It is not something negative. Chinese are from many different regions and they live under different gov’t and culture slightly different from one another.

            If I tell you I am Chinese, does that give you enough information about me? If a man tells you he is spanish from a spanish country, will you have any idea which gov’t he lives under? Or his culture?

            I am very proud of my chinese heritage. We are all chinese but many of us also want to be more specific of our origin. We always reply by saying I am chinese from hong kong or hkers. Or chinese from taiwan or taiwanese. Or chinese from singapore or singaporean.

            I have American friends asking me questions about my life living inside China and how was school in China after I told them I am Chinese. What should I tell them? I don’t know. But why? I thought you say you are chinese and you migrate to USA. I am chinese and I was raised in my homeland. But I don’t know life inside China…….eventually I do have to tell them I am chinese from Hk or hker. I was raised under hk gov’t system and never been inside mainland.

            So don’t get offended when chinese use taiwanese, hkers, or singaporean. They are not ashamed of being Chinese. They are not looking down on China chinese or being arrogant. They are just telling you their origin. If you don’t like the word “mainlander” then just chinese alone is fine. But other chinese will still ask you where chinese.

            “Mainlander” is not a negative word. “locust” is. But you are not a locust so we are not talking about you or any other china chinese. We are just referring to the China people who are stealing from hk gov’t and hk taxpayers. Why should we use kind word to describe the thieves?

          • linette lee

            This is why we use the word locust. Those who keep breaking hk laws just to get hk ID and free hk services without paying a dime to hk gov’t.

            http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/1226852/1/.html

          • Kim

            hong kong people love to eat shit out of a white english man’s bum.. hk people love gwai lo lol

        • ASDF

          [THE STATEMENT ABOVE IS SARCASTIC]

          ….for those who can’t tell. Although i don’t blame you because the comments i’m trying to criticize are already so stupid, there is very little room left for exaggeration.

      • LeilaM12

        Not “everywhere”, but rather where one of the Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) plays a role. Many European states are almost atheist and there this kind of stuff plays very little role. China and Russia are different since homophobia is more related to “manly men autocracy”.

    • Rick in China

      Historically China has always had homosexuality, only recently has it been “cleansed” and pushed out of normal public life..altho it was even more recently re-legalized. Paintings poetry etc mention homosexuality and emperors often had boyfriends as well as wives..it’s not “alien” to them as a culture, it’s alien to modern ones who were raised in a post-cultural revolution environment where brainwashing on morality/obligation/pride became the ‘new’ cultural norm.

    • ross

      Utterly true & mean as hell. I think I’m in love with mister Basic.

    • lonetrey / Dan

      Ahahaha quite an interesting way of phrasing it

    • Flambart Photography

      Absolutely! If mainlanders could realize how lost and clueless they became through so many years of cultural isolation. Sad but true. There may be a light to help them understand civil society, Let’s help more and more to open their narrow vision and let the sunshine in.

    • themig

      taiwan and israel is of course the most anti-gay of all societys

      • mr.wiener

        I find it hard to tell when you are being inane or sarcastic, which is this?

      • http://www.facebook.com/noah.altman Noah Altman

        Clearly, you have never lived in Israel.

      • dim mak

        Tel Aviv is gay central, son

    • Adam Lanphier

      I am disgusted by your comment, but I can’t stop laughing…

    • Dripping Third Leg

      Is Hong Kong a civil society ? I thought it’s run by a few underground communists delegated by CCP from beijing. More importantly, what it is to be proud of being gay when the only difference is you suck cocks and get busted in the rear end day and night ?

      • http://www.facebook.com/alex.k.tso Alex Ka Wei Tso

        They say they are ‘proud’ mostly because there still exist stupid bullies more concerned with the happiness of others than with his/her own life. From what I understand, it’s valid to feel proud when there is still this idea that you should be ashamed of what you are…

        It’s something deeper, it has social and political roots that can be noticed in most civil rights movements, such as the black movement, or the feminist movement, where they fight against the domaining idea of their inferiority… so, to say ‘we are proud of being ____________ (gay, black, women, etc)’ is more or less like saying “we are equal, we are no less, we are who we are.”

        This is portrayed in patriotic discourses as well, From Latin America, to Middle East and China as well… (altough in this case, imho, I believe the aim is mostly to achieve superiority and dominance than equality)

        • Shaniqua1990

          man they do sound insecure

    • Dripping Third Leg

      Today you sympathize with homosexuality, tomorrow your sons and daughters may stand with pedophilia and necrophilia. It’s all about where the bottom like is drawn..

      • hess

        then lets draw it just under homosexuality

    • ASDF

      I agree. homophobia is uncivilized, but sinophobia is necessary. Although both are forms of discrimination, gay people are at least human. Mainlanders on the other hand are just pigs and locusts. Thus as civilized people, we must display respect and understanding for everyone except mainlanders.

      • Anon992

        (Presuming this is ironic) It’s a valid point.

        That old conundrum for liberals everywhere.. should we tolerate intolerance or be intolerant of intolerance. The former is to ignore a problem and the latter is to contradict oneself.

        Let’s face it… the birth of an opinion is nearly always the birth of a contradiction.

        • ASDF

          Then I guess that makes me intolerant of intolerance towards intolerance. . . not really.

          My point was actually about stereotyping and making false assumptions. not intolerance. Homophobes assume all Homosexuals are sick minded. Sinophobes assume all mainlanders are homophobic.

          You assumed that Johnny Basic was not making false assumptions, but merely being intolerant of intolerance. However, in order for you to make this particular assumption, you needed to first agree with Johnny’s assumption that all mainlanders are indeed homophobic. Now what does that make you i wonder?

          Sinophobia seems to be deeply embedded in everyone nowadays, just like Japanophobia was back in the 30s. Could this be the result of brainwashing perhaps? No way! . . . there is no propaganda in our free democratic society!

          • Anon992

            Hmmm Japanese not popular in the 1930s, I wonder why#…. I hear the Germans were also subject to a few jibes in that era too. Yeah, you’re right, we were probably all brainwashed into thinking their jingoism, hubris and fascist attitudes were a threat to our freedoms.. haha. Bad example.

            ASDF, it’s a generalisation. *Generally*, mainland Chinese are anti-gay. Obviously not all. This is based on 1, The Chinese comments above 2, Numerous interactions 3, The fact that gay parades are regularly banned or shut down in China. 4, A lack of laws protecting gay rights. If you honestly want to argue that Chinese culture is forward thinking on the subject of gay rights/attitudes then you are being either woefully or deliberately ignorant.

            You should stick to the 2 good points you raised. 1, Is it acceptable to be intolerant towards intolerance# and 2, it’s unfair to copy and paste Western levels of liberality to a country still in its development (I guess that’s what you were trying to suggest with the Japan point).

          • mr.wiener

            Actually I think it is difficult to precisely compare western and asian anti gay prejudices.

            Whilst western thought on the matter had the bible to fall back on ,[cherry picking at it's worst:] “A man shall not lie with another man as he does with a woman, God hates this” yet ignoring or glossing over other biblical prohibitions such as the menstruation of women, prohibitions on pork or other types of food, Wearing of blended fabrics, working on the sabbath etc.

            Chinese have never been vehemently against gays, traditionally there has been more of an…indifference to them rather than fear or outright hatred. As long as you prepetuate offspring and carry on the family line most Chinese didn’t give two hoots if you docked your boat in poo harbor.

            The reason why they don’t want to have gay pride parades is because the Chinese govt is highly reactionary to “western” influences and doesn’t see it as conducive to “social order”.

            In other words, “stay in the closet sissy boys”.

          • ASDF

            Anon992, it’s a generalization The’re just saying “Generally”, there are more homosexuals who are sick minded and dysfunctional. Obviously not all. They’re not anti-gay or anything. They’re just making generalizations.

            Also, if you honestly want to argue that democracies were more “free” than their fascist counterparts of the same era, then you are being either woefully or deliberately ignorant.

      • linette lee

        ASDF…you are no doubt really retarded for making tons of nonsense statements.

        • dim mak

          He’s obviously being sarcastic

    • Anon992

      I like the comment that says…

      “The foreigners [in the photos] are all there laughing at this joke.”

      Haha.. whoops. Wrrrooong.

      In addition, this ridiculous want to turn everything into a face loss currency is starting to real annoy me. Just judge for yourself you moron!!! Wait… no, don’t. You’ll just defer to your Chinese conditioning. Okay, okay, keep guessing what foreigners are thinking about you.. JUST GET IT RIGHT NEXT TIME.

    • dim mak

      Are you that Scottish fuckwit under a different name? I thought you ran away from this site

    • erguotouplease

      help me with this.coz i obviously chouldn’t understand WTF are you doing here ?you all hate china and mainlanders. but you keep reading and posting on a website called “china smack–hot internet stories ,pictures, &videos in china” ?!!!
      guess you just proved you are no smarter than pigs after all ~
      @Johnny_Basic:disqus
      @disqus_2HDP4sMt4n:disqus @… you know i am talking about you

      • linette lee

        Don’t you just get so pissed after reading so many racist comments against Chinese on this site? I know what you are saying. I get so pissed too. :(

        • erguotouplease

          shake hands. >O<

  • Flambart Photography

    Great example of freedom, open-mindedness, civil liberty and values. The sad point is to see how mainlanders, specially men (small dictators with king mind and few experience in life) show their hatred and ignorance. Mainlanders are culturally living in an island, disconnected from the 21st Century and apart from world values. HK, keep strong! Keep setting the good example of plurality and freedom!

    • patko

      I think the mainlanders are correct on this one. While homosexuality should be recognized it should not be celebrated. Neither should it be regarded as normal human behavior. Most gay people I have met are not mentally balanced out and all the liberals will jump in anger at this statement but I am merely going on my own observations and unlike the masses I make my own conclusions.

      The woman are ussually more agressive and emulate the male character consciously. If they are not agressive then they are very sensitive and emotionally feable. To me homosexuality is a phenomena of psychological damage. Somewhere along the line these people have been hurt greatly, perhaps by their dads or mothers and they develop in such a way as to be disconnected form their feminin or masculin side. There are also woman who are damaged and who will not identify with homosexuality. These woman will usually be hardcore feminists. Woman who don’t seem to have a feminin side and who’s sole goal in life is to be as masculin and “strong”, “independent” as they can. These woman “don’t need” men to survive and they are proud of this.

      The world we live in is a seriously fucked up place and as a result fucked up beings emerge from it. In the same way there are people who fall in love with objects and men who have sex with cars (litterally). These sexual preferences are more easily dismissed by our culture as having no merrit because no other person is involved. Yet those who feel they cannot judge homosexuality have opened themselves up to a world where sexual boundaries do not exist. And as you show in your comment, these people even hold pride in their liberal views of normalicy.

      This is truely a decrepit age, where up is down and left is right. Freedom is flaunted as the only moral compas, which is basicly no moral compas. Because these people would want you to believe that anyhting that does not hurt another person is by definition not wrong doing and a preference and each preference of an individual should be respected. Not respecting someones preferences is somehow (in their minds) the limitation of freedom.

      This view is wholy wrong. People who fall in love with toys are not normal and have severe psychological damage. People who fall in love and are sexually attracted to children are severely psychologically damaged. In the same way people who dissociate themselves from their gender are not normal.

      I have yet to see a person who is incredibly balanced in his personality and reality that is homosexually inclined. These are conclusions on MY OWN observations and because I have derrived them from my honest and objective search for truth I can stand by them with confidence. I am not invested in my own world view, if you have a counter argument to my opinons I would like to hear it. But not many arguments are made except “its normal and if you don’t think so you are crazy”. People who advocate homophillia are ussually of this opinion. Like the religious fanatics they recite mantras in a repetitive machinal way (ussually) because they have been taught to recite them.

      And their minds are no longer open for other possibilities, infact the very utterance of a difference of opinion on the matter will trigger agressive behavior on their part and discust.

      • LeilaM12

        Yes, of course pedophilia and objectophilia are the same as homosexuality. /sarcasm off

        DUDE, please inform yourself on what consent is! And what sexual pleasure and desire are! Children can’t consent and will be damaged, physically and psychologically. Objects can’t consent, but damage doesn’t matter. How on earth you cannot see why a relationship between two horny and/or in love adults is completely different is beyond me.

        • patko

          I talked about this logic you are now laying out, you seem to have skipped that part.

          As stated in my text, liberals and people who accept homosexuality do so in the name of freedom. They believe that anything an individual preferences (if it does not hurt anyone else) is concidered to be good and normal behavior. Preferences are sacred to the freedom toting liberal and limiting preferences or judging preferences is ALWAYS wrong. If a person likes to eat shit that person cannot be seen as abnormal in the mind of a liberal because eating shit as long as it does not hurt anyone is a preference.

          I know pedophilia is morally not the same as homophillia but I’m not talking about morality. What Im talking about is the fact that liberals will protect homophilia as something normal, something the gay man can’t do anything about. A man is attracted to another man and this is entirely normal in the liberal mind. Yet a man can have this SAME EXACT attraction to children. In this case the liberal cannot stand behind the above mentioned principle; Here he will condemn the sexual preference of the pedophille even though he clearly states that people do not have control over what they are sexually attracted to.

          This is a glaring hole in the liberal logic. Either we look at all people as having been born with a sexual preference that should be respected (but not neccesarily permitted) or we conclude that there is such a thing as normal sexual behavior (ie man and woman). Any deviation from this behavior must have its roots in the psychology and is therefore not natural but brought on through external elements (abuse etc..). If we agree that it is indeed psychological (as I believe it to be) then it concludes that this condition as any other psychological condition can be “treated”. If you do not believe in this statement which is very controversial in the world today this means that you do not believe that pedophiles can be cured of their perverted ways.

          But you DO believe pedophiles can be somewhat treated. Yet when it comes to homosexuality applying the same logic will result in a sea of discusted faces. Discusted faces at your apparent primitive state of understanding.

          Let me tell you this, there is nothing simple and straightforward about this homosexualitiy business. Yet the masses all hypnotized through consensus and peer pressure will act as thought the matter is a simple one. Anyone who does not share the same understanding must be a primitive monkey. The people who think like this are morons. In a population the majority will always flock together in a main stream of thought.

          The masses therefore are very slow at adapting themselves to new ideas. It takes great effort for an idea to change when it has been held and fought for their entire lives. Yet the individual who is open to truth and objectivity can very easily change opinions and views. It concludes therfore that the individual is superior in his understand of truth compared to the masses (provided ofcourse he is fair minded and intelligent).

          You however are a lazy man. You do not think for yourself. Infact you are afraid to think for yourself. As the 5 monkey effect shows you stand by a belief of which you have not thought about yourself. But you stand by it purely because not doing so will result in non acceptance of the group.

          There are two things we can do as a person. Either we accept all kinds of behavior as long as they do not hurt another person or we accept that there is indeed a boundary that when crossed enters the domain of madness and insanity.

          I am one for the latter. I think t is important for people not to get dragged away by their desires. All forms of extreme sexual interaction and lude behavior are a direct result of people indulging their desires. People of your opinion will respect this behavior. In all religious texts and phylosophies it has been said that desire is mans worst enemy. Buddhism which sees the indulgence of desire as the most wicked is the forerunner in this camp.

          Yet it is exactly the liberal which will laugh at religions and embrace his materialist views of baselss morality. Truely a despicable set of ideas. You are lost.

          • Gay Orc

            “These are conclusions on MY OWN observations and because I have derrived them from my honest and objective search for truth I can stand by them with confidence”

            Patko you silly cunt. Would you like to hear some conclusions from MY own observations of you derived from the very little that I know? You’re a total goof.

          • Michael

            it’s kinda sad that you have to revert to imo the lowest form of language – name calling. if you have a point to make please do it in an educated manner like patko has. if you cannot then maybe you should reflect on your own beliefs.

          • Michael

            wow, I really like to read your comments, your logic is very clear and you are very articulate. where can I read more of your stuff? thanks~!

          • Kai

            I don’t think LeilaM12′s response represents the logic you preemptively struck against.

            You yourself laid out the criteria you feel liberals use to accept homosexuality in the name of freedom, which is as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone. You then accuse liberals of hypocrisy for not accepting pedophilia. However, they’re not seen as the same thing, which is what LeilaM12 pointed out: Homosexuality between two consenting adults is substantively different from pedophilia where an adult preys upon children society considers to not have the capacity to give consent. Hence the child is taken advantaged of and a victim. This is a material difference you need to acknowledge if you’re going to compare the two.

            Liberals (or nearly everyone?) condemn pedophiles because it hurts someone: the child. Liberals (and a growing number of people in this world) don’t condemn homosexuals because they don’t see the consenting adults as being hurt by their choice.

            You said a lot of things, mostly irrelevant, but you did not remotely preempt this rebuttal by LeilaM12. You in fact set yourself up for it.

            There are more than two things we can do as people or as a society. You’re using a false dichotomy when the world is shades of gray. Different behaviors are tolerated to different extents based on the society’s consensus on how tolerable or intolerable they are. Society’s attitudes change over time. Whether the changes are for the better or worse is often subjective.

            And for the record, your views are closer to the masses than the “liberal” view you’re arguing against. Most people in this world still regard homosexuality as deviant, as something being “wrong” with that person mentally. The trend is towards greater tolerance and acceptance, but its hardly the prevailing sentiment amongst most people in the world. I’m not sure why you think your views and conclusions are uniquely yours or that you’re so different from “the masses”.

          • DavidisDawei

            Wow – I agree; these are not simple issues because it involves topics most people consider revolting. I would prefer a bullet to the head instead of homosexual relations.

            One of my best friends came out 15 years ago – before that I never stopped to really consider gays’ feelings. Over the years, I have had many frank discussions with him and his gay/lesbian associates to try and gain an understanding of their point of view.

            Maybe I would not be open to any discussion if I didn’t have a close friend come out.

            Just like Chinese and Americans share common ground; so too do gays and straight people. Since this is Chinasmack, I wanted to add this comparison. My first time in China surprised me how similar our two countries are (there are also many differences).

            I focus on the things that brought us together as friends. These outweigh our differences. I hope that our friendship is strong enough to work thru our differences.

            I personally do not put pedophilia in the same category as homosexuality because as objectionable as both may seem, one involves sex with a minor, which is never justifiable.

            If I had children, I would Not want them exposed to sexual issues of any kind on TV or in advertisements – neither homo or hetero sexual.

            In the USA, unfortunately any idiot can have a child and many of them do not know what it means to be a good parent. This is why so many people now believe government must fill that role.

            Nothing wrong with sex and discussing these issues with your children; sex is one of life’s greatest pleasures, but I hope if I have children, they will wait until they are mature enough to make these decisions on their own.

            We could discuss this for a month and not get thru all of the issues –

            Cheers,
            Dave

          • J.D.

            Know it’s been a while since this was posted, but I still want to respond to it.

            “As stated in my text, liberals and people who accept homosexuality do so
            in the name of freedom. They believe that anything an individual
            preferences (if it does not hurt anyone else) is concidered to be good
            and normal behavior. Preferences are sacred to the freedom toting
            liberal and limiting preferences or judging preferences is ALWAYS wrong.
            If a person likes to eat shit that person cannot be seen as abnormal in
            the mind of a liberal because eating shit as long as it does not hurt
            anyone is a preference.”

            This, I think, is inaccurate. While Liberals do stress the importance of individual freedoms, most won’t automatically claim that anything that gives the individual more power is always going to be good or normal. If, for an abstract example, murder were suddenly legalized for the sake of giving individuals more control over their own actions and rights, I’d imagine most Liberals would be outraged. Liberals only stress individual rights when they don’t step on the rights of other individuals, or else their goals would be self-defeating. Likewise, if it what someone is doing would harm themselves, like eating shit and getting deathly sick from it, then that can’t exactly be endorsed or allowed either.

            “I know pedophilia is morally not the same as homophillia but I’m not
            talking about morality. What Im talking about is the fact that liberals
            will protect homophilia as something normal, something the gay man can’t
            do anything about. A man is attracted to another man and this is
            entirely normal in the liberal mind. Yet a man can have this SAME EXACT
            attraction to children. In this case the liberal cannot stand behind the
            above mentioned principle; Here he will condemn the sexual preference
            of the pedophille even though he clearly states that people do not have
            control over what they are sexually attracted to.”

            What Liberals will attack is only the Pedophile acting out on their desires. Most Liberals (from the ones I’ve met) seem to look at Pedophiles not as evil or disgusting, but rather with a kind of pity. Most seem to realise that just the same as Homosexuality, Pedophilia isn’t a choice (though, again, acting out on that desire is). The main difference is that Pedophilia WILL harm other people – the child involved, and to a much lesser extent, the Pedophile, and thus it’s considered wrong.

            And I just want to say that using the word “normal” really doesn’t mean much of anything. Broken down into it’s simplest form, “normal” is just another word for “average”, and that really isn’t a very compelling argument against something. A white man in Asia, therefore, isn’t “normal”, and an Asian man in the US isn’t “normal”

            I’m not telling you not to use it, but it just does not change or argue for anything effectively, or even at all.

            “This is a glaring hole in the liberal logic. Either we look at all
            people as having been born with a sexual preference that should be
            respected (but not neccesarily permitted) or we conclude that there is
            such a thing as normal sexual behavior (ie man and woman). Any deviation
            from this behavior must have its roots in the psychology and is
            therefore not natural but brought on through external elements (abuse
            etc..). If we agree that it is indeed psychological (as I believe it to
            be) then it concludes that this condition as any other psychological
            condition can be “treated”. If you do not believe in this statement
            which is very controversial in the world today this means that you do
            not believe that pedophiles can be cured of their perverted ways.”

            This ties in heavily with what I said above, but I promise you that it’s virtually 100% certain via modern research that Homosexuality is something brought about because of genetics and evolution. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html).

            “But you DO believe pedophiles can be somewhat treated. Yet when it comes
            to homosexuality applying the same logic will result in a sea of
            discusted faces. Discusted faces at your apparent primitive state of
            understanding.”

            It’s know that they can’t be treated – though you can keep them away from children.

            “Let me tell you this, there is nothing simple and straightforward about
            this homosexualitiy business. Yet the masses all hypnotized through
            consensus and peer pressure will act as thought the matter is a simple
            one. Anyone who does not share the same understanding must be a
            primitive monkey. The people who think like this are morons. In a
            population the majority will always flock together in a main stream of
            thought. ”

            “homosexualitiy business”? And I suppose there’s a “gay agenda”, too? And as for the “hypnotized masses”, you are right, but you’re also coloring it wrong. In America. during the 60s, the masses were “hypnotized into believing that another form of “degeneracy” was normal, and that the answer to the issue was simple. And in 1967, that simple-minded thought lead to the legalization of inter-racial marriage. Now, I don’t claim that these two issues are exactly the same, but MANY of the arguments made for and against it and the history behind both of them have numerous similarities. Were they wrong to have made such cultural declaration that a black and a white marrying was “simply” right?

            “The masses therefore are very slow at adapting themselves to new ideas.
            It takes great effort for an idea to change when it has been held and
            fought for their entire lives. Yet the individual who is open to truth
            and objectivity can very easily change opinions and views. It concludes
            therfore that the individual is superior in his understand of truth
            compared to the masses (provided ofcourse he is fair minded and
            intelligent). ”

            I agree with this wholeheartedly, but most of mankind just isn’t like that. Generally speaking, we’re group monkeys, and therefore most of us are willing, desiring, even, to be lead. In one way, you have already pointed this out above. Good or bad, right or wrong, make of it what you will.

            “You however are a lazy man. You do not think for yourself. Infact you
            are afraid to think for yourself. As the 5 monkey effect shows you stand
            by a belief of which you have not thought about yourself. But you stand
            by it purely because not doing so will result in non acceptance of the
            group.”

            Again, people tend to go with whatever idea sounds good to them. It doesn’t making anyone who does this stupid or lazy, it makes them human. If you want to change someone’s opinion, then that’s up to you.

            “There are two things we can do as a person. Either we accept all kinds
            of behavior as long as they do not hurt another person or we accept that
            there is indeed a boundary that when crossed enters the domain of
            madness and insanity”

            We already have this “boundary” in place, and homosexuality certainly does not cross it.

            “I am one for the latter. I think t is important for people not to get
            dragged away by their desires. All forms of extreme sexual interaction
            and lude behavior are a direct result of people indulging their desires.
            People of your opinion will respect this behavior. In all religious
            texts and phylosophies it has been said that desire is mans worst enemy.
            Buddhism which sees the indulgence of desire as the most wicked is the
            forerunner in this camp.”

            Just because you desire something does not make it wrong. A starving man “desiring” a crust of bread isn’t wrong, is it? It is only when one’s desire are self destructive or destructive towards others that we must deem them wrong. The desire to love someone of the same sex is not a destructive desire anymore than a desire to be with someone of the opposite sex is.

            “Yet it is exactly the liberal which will laugh at religions and embrace
            his materialist views of baselss morality. Truely a despicable set of
            ideas. You are lost.”

            No thinking man needs God to be mostly good, though being religious is perfectly fine. You only see Liberals as having “baseless morality” because you do not fully or even correctly understand Liberal ideals. You are the one who is lost, my friend.

  • Kate

    Oh what a cute rainbow condom costume ^_^♥

    • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

      Guess we all know what your daughter will be for Halloween next year :D

      • Kate

        Lol well if id been using a condom, I wouldn’t have a baby to dress up :p

  • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

    I’m kind of neutral on this topic so I’ll just post this latest pic that Lili sent. She’s responding well to the surgeries(just had her 3rd) though having to endure alot of pain and not as cheerful as before it all started.

    • mr.wiener

      cool, thanks mate.

    • lonetrey / Dan

      glad to hear it’s going well with no serious complications though!

    • linette lee

      glad little Lili is doing okay. :)

    • Rick in China

      What’s the story with Lili?

      • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

        Hmmm….I guess you were in “The Joint” when Lili’s story was posted. She is a little girl whose body and face were covered with giant hairy moles that caused her to be refered as “Monkey Girl”. The CS forum put aside the bickering and Fauna helped to put a system in place for people to donate money for her surgeries that they could be certain would go directly to benefit Lili and not a new car for some Guo Mei Mei-type scumbag. It was a big success and more than enough money was raised. You can find the story here: http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/pictures/furry-child-chinese-girls-body-covered-by-black-spots-fur.html

        • Rick in China

          Oh – that’s awesome man.. I think I remember the story, I don’t remember seeing anything about a CS-based fund to cover surgery, really good to see something positive come from the forum though. Wish her all the best.

    • Brett

      Thanks LW. Shes a champ.

  • jason

    couldn’t you guys have posted some more positive comments? i’m sure the positive outweight the negative

    • Tin Hau Terror

      Fauna, were there positive comments or is was this sampling representative? If it’s the latter, then I am suddenly willing to believe commentary that China is socially fifty years behind the U.S. If that’s the case, I can’t wait for Chinese Woodstock.

      • Kai

        Frankly, on the issue of homosexuality, the negative outweigh the positive just about everywhere. The main difference is how public it is and what is considered politically correct with regards to speech in public.

        Different websites attract different demographics but with a large popular portal website like NetEase and QQ, you’ll get a reasonably mainstream audience similar to Yahoo or YouTube. A lot of us take “liberal” attitudes for granted but it shouldn’t be hard to recognize that homosexuality still has a long way to go before it is fully accepted by the vast majority of people everywhere.

        I’ve written about this elsewhere but a problem with cS’s methodology of taking the “most popular” comments and translating them is that there are a lot of confounding factors. Putting aside the fact that most people don’t comment so those who are the most opinionated tend to be the most vocal and thus are overrepresented, you also need to be aware of how netizen comments are presented on Chinese sites and how people are likely to vote on comments.

        As Peter said, Chinese sites like NetEase often display the most popular comments first, but think about it. There are literally thousands of comments on the most popular articles that cS is likely to translate.Ddo you think every reader is going to read through all of them and vote for those they like? No, with such an overwhelming amount of comments, people will only usually stick around to see a few of them and vote on those. Therefore, those who post a comment early are more likely to get more votes simply due to time. And those who get enough votes on their comments get into the most popular list. Since the most popular list of comments gets more exposure, they get more attention and thus are more likely to get more votes, which only further cements their position in the more visible popular comments list.

        The other comments that come after get buried. They get less people reading them and less potential votes. Even if the content of their comment resonates with a lot of people, they’re at a disadvantage. There could be tons of commenters who are saying positive things but they’ll have no votes or less votes just because they’re not being placed in front of subsequent readers in the hot comments list.

        These things affect how “representative” these comments are and how representative any cS sample can be. cS does a better job than simply cherry-picking, but there are certainly more rigorous sampling methods.

        So, while this sort of sampling is far from perfect, the sort of sampling still says something, and it can still offer insights, especially about how the Chinese internet works and how Chinese netizens read and vote, if not necessarily just how representative any sentiment is in the overall Chinese population. People just need to be mindful of how representative any sampling can really be. People have to question how the surveys are done, just like we know that statistics aren’t always reliable, and can be made to say what we want them to say. The methodology cS uses still has value, but you have to be aware of the limitations.

        Hope this explanation helps!

    • Peter Barefoot

      We translate comments that are most popular among netizens. There are “most hot” comment sections on many major sites and these comments are from there. Personally I wanted to translate some supportive comments, too. But unfortunately, these ignorant comments got the most upvotes. There were a few positive comments ,though, only to be buried in a flood of condemnations and curses. So they don’t get to represent what most Chinese netizens think of on this matter. Therefore, I didn’t translate those comments, which is a shame.

      • http://www.facebook.com/alex.k.tso Alex Ka Wei Tso

        Bullies everywhere, it’s a problem… unfortunately these comments only make China seem more and more uncivilized.

        • Jennster

          not liking homosexuals does not make one uncivilised. they are just expressing their opinions. don’t u understand democracy?

        • Peter Barefoot

          People tend to dump their shit on the internet.

  • Fire蓝日

    les filles du botanist / chinese botanist daughter is an interesting lesbian love story fictionally occur in china. From the love start to their prosecution based on the conservative view towards homosexual. But their love was beautiful, so spiritual and not vulgar at all and the men characters were those that represent societies view towards foreign things.

    Also Alaskan looks like Asian, quite surprising. Its the environment.

    • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

      I used to live with 2 gay Chinese girls. The butch girl looked just like Chachi(Joanie Loves Chachi) and her lover was really pretty. Damn girls were always leaving their door open when it got hot’n’heavy in there and I was constantly reminding them that sometimes I have to take a whizz in the middle of the night. I seen a whole lotta “stuff” guys. (psssst…..wiener, Bret and moop..I’ll send you a full description)

      • Fire蓝日

        how does her lover look like??? and how does one apply for a full description

        • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

          As I said, she is really pretty and not butch at all. They lived with me for 3 years since me and the girl worked together as duo. She sang and I did all the bass and drums on a sequencer and played guitar for live gigs. She sang quite well and was a finalist in the “Supergirl” competition one year. We were like a family and I know they were certainly happy to have a person that supported their lifestyle and they could be open with. Eventually, her parents forced her into a marriage for “face” and move to another city but she still comes to visit on occasion though I suspect she really comes to town to get away from her husband for a gay rendezvous. I also agree that there alot more gay Chinese girls in proportion to the population than other societies and it’s been around for centuries.
          I was just joking about the “full description” thing. I need to respect their privacy but you can use your imagination or watch any “No Dicks Allowed” videos and get the general idea. Personally, I never really get turned on watching girl-on-girl action. Unless I’m involved :D

          • mr.wiener

            “I was just joking about the “full description” thing.”
            Damn and blast.

    • Rick in China

      “It’s the environment”? You mentioning Alaskans (do you mean Inuit?) here had no relevance to the rest of the post, so I find that strange – however, no, it’s not “their environment”, it’s because they both originate from the same race of people. The Bering Strait was once bridging Siberia/Alaska and modern day Inuit / Native Americans crossed that bridge..which is why people from both sides of the strait feature similar traits. I would wager the weak died out in the travels, which may be why the natives who migrated throughout North America were bad ass – whereas back here, the weak continued to breed like rabbits :D

      • Fire蓝日

        haha.
        you are very knowledgeable Rick. So, nervous for tomorrow?

        • Rick in China

          Thursday..nope, wasn’t nervous during the 9am-5:30pm court proceedings, not nervous now :D Just glad to have it over with.

  • JohnyJay

    May I ask why they’re going on the streets? They have nothing in common among themselves. No culture, political program etc. So why?

    • Kukuku

      Because they want to and they can?

      This may be extremely foreign to you if you are a mainlander.

  • Sean Kung

    Well if Mainland China legalizes gay marriage and promote homosexual maybe they can solve their population crisis.

    • http://www.facebook.com/alex.k.tso Alex Ka Wei Tso

      That’s a practical point of view! And let them adopt kids as well, to aliviate the number of infants abandoned every year by heterosexual couples. At least there will be less childs on the streets.

  • linette lee

    Very nice. People should come out in the open. No big deal. The gay couples should also start a family and adopt kids. :)

    • http://www.facebook.com/alex.k.tso Alex Ka Wei Tso

      Agreed.

  • linette lee

    You see how diverse is Hong kong. No matter you are gay or not gay, chinese , indian, white, black or south east asians. They can all be together in harmony. :)

    Love and support HK gov’t. I hope the hk gov’t hurry up and legalize gay rights and marriages.

    • Shaniqua1990

      except if ur a mainlander

  • joey

    why is Hu Jintao not in the parade? he is gay

  • Middle Kingdum

    One needs only to look at the last male Chinese “pop star” on ChinaSMACK to see proof of gays being popular in China.

  • Kim

    Fucking disgusting.. these Gay Hong Kongers are mentally sick. Please see a
    fucking doctor about your disease. So you think it’s normal for a man to
    insert his penis inside another man’s asshole? Are you ok?
    Do you need some medicine? An asshole is where fucking
    shit comes out of. Hong Kongers, you know shit, right? You eat it out of a white
    Englishman’s asshole all the time lol Hong Kong love white British man’s bum hole.

    • Gay Azn Boi

      Stop trolling please.

      • Kim

        stop being a dick, or your mother will die of cancer

        • Kukuku

          Stop being Chinese, or your mother will die of food poisoning.

    • Germandude

      Probably the worst try of Rap I ever heard…. no rhymes, no sense, no style. Please try again.

      • Kim

        I will try my best next time!

    • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

      “An asshole is where fucking shit comes out of.”
      And a pussy is where the fucking pee comes out of. Yuck! Did you know that some people actually put their mouth there and even use their tongue? eeeeEEEEEEEWWWW!
      That’s why I keep it clean and confine my sexual activity to laying naked on a giant paper towel while 2 women wearing burqas poor ketchup and sprinkle salt on me while I writhe with pleasure yelling “I’M A FRENCH FRY! I’M A FRENCH FRY”
      I’ve tried to keep it a secret, but those gay HKers have inspired me. I’m going to have my own parade tomorrow.
      I’m weird, I’m here. Get used to it.
      Btw…..please don’t use the word “penis”. It really disturbs me.

      • Kim

        Yea, a marriage is between a man and woman, you sick mother fucker… lol you probably have this mental illness because you were sexually abused as a child, yes? Go see a doctor about your condition, before you break yourself ;p

        • Germandude

          Ah Kim, if education would only be available for everybody, you would have had the chance to experience it yourself.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality

          “In East Asia, same-sex love has been referred to since the earliest recorded history.

          Homosexuality in China, known as the passions of the cut peach and various other euphemisms has been recorded since approximately 600 BCE. Homosexuality was mentioned in many famous works of Chinese literature. The instances of same-sex affection and sexual interactions described in the classical novel Dream of the Red Chamber seem as familiar to observers in the present as do equivalent stories of romances between heterosexual people during the same period. Confucianism, being primarily a social and political philosophy, focused little on sexuality, whether homosexual or heterosexual. Opposition to homosexuality in China originates in the medieval Tang Dynasty (618-907), attributed to the rising influence of Christian and Islamic values,[70] but did not become fully established until the Westernization efforts of the late Qing Dynasty and the Republic of China.[71]“

          • Germandude

            Ah and from the same wikipedia article:

            “The Chinese Society of Psychiatry removed homosexuality from its Chinese Classification of Mental Disorders in 2001 after five years of study by the association”.

            You see? Some move on, some continue living in the past. I bet you and your parent are living in a mountain hole still searching for a way to make fire.

          • Kim

            LOL Good one!! Wikipedia!! You do now that ANYONE can log in and edit all that information, right? Base your research on Wiki.. you sure got me! :p well done.. let me guess… are you related to Albert Einstein?

          • Germandude

            Ok troll, not sure if it’s worth replying you, so I give you a statement with a source that you willl like as an answer. Here it is:

            “stop being a dick, or your mother will die of cancer”
            Kim • a day ago
            http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/pictures/hong-kong-gay-pride-parade-chinese-netizen-reactions.html

        • mr.wiener

          Are you talking about marriage as defined by the bible and other culturally related texts?
          If we no longer decide on the correct bride price being this many goats, sheep and cattle for the virginity of your 12 year old child than I think you can safely say we have already redefined marriage.
          The only reason gays want to get married [apart , that is from love] is for the financial and emotional benefits of a long term and stable partnership.
          You are suggesting that they shouldn’t be allowed to do in order to spare your delicate feelings on the matter? How would you like it if The Chinese govt [or any other govt] dictated to you who you could and couldn’t marry?
          Keeping gays from marriage only leads to keeping them where you like them: In their own little sub-cultures and prowling gay beats at night time in public parks.
          Is there a reason you are not telling us about which is why you prefer them there?

          • Kim

            Gays are a cancer in society; they all must be destroyed before they spread.. they are a cancer I tell you. And no, I’m not religious.

          • http://www.facebook.com/alex.k.tso Alex Ka Wei Tso

            Just incomprehensibly furious… let people love who they want and be happy dude… it’s not like they are showing up at your door forcing you to have anal sex with them… (and even if they were, if you’re straight you wouldn’t anyway!)

            Peace!

          • mr.wiener

            Gays are not a cancer. Hate is a cancer.

    • jahar

      I’m sure you do plenty of things that are “not normal”. Why do you care what 2 dudes are doing with their penises(should be penii, imho)? They aren’t sticking it in YOUR asshole(are they?) Maybe that’s the real reason you guys get so upset

  • G$

    Of course, it’s going to be a this kind of behavior thing I can’t accept it, why can’t you keep your life to yourself kind of issue. If a woman wears skimpy clothing to show off her body it’s okay, but if a gay man tries to wear skimpy clothing to show off his, heresy.

  • Gay Azn Boi

    “Actually, they’re also people, they too don’t themselves to have a problem, and they too want to be like ordinary people. It’s not like gay people are stealing, robbing, killing, or setting fires [committing crimes], so what is it about them that can’t be accepted? I think it’s not easy for them, too.”

    Possibly the best comment from the netizens.

  • Gay Azn Boi

    Okay honestly, right now, I just wish I could hack the retarded Chinese netizens and flood their computers with gay porn. That should teach them a lesson.

    • Kim

      stop trolling, or your father will get cancer

    • MrT

      so people want freedom of speech, but at the same time they don’t want freedom of speech.Just depends on what they saying I suppose. Gay.

      • velvett

        Freedom of speech ends when hate speech starts. Don’t confuse the terms.

  • Getrealson

    Fucking animals! Their saying the gays will corrupt society and taint moral values. This society is as disgusting, apathetic and corrupt as one can get. China is barely above a nigerian slum in terms of a functioning society and they have the gaul to suggest gays have a problem. PIGS!!!!!

  • 3ayo

    I was hoping to see some eye candy. :( Nice to see support from the legaslative council and celebrities though. Some netizens hating isn’t a surprise. They’re entitled to their own opinions just like the rest of us…no matter how ignorant they may be. :) I do find it funny how one called it a “sick product of a sick society.” No mate, that’s pedophilia. :p

  • Shaniqua1990

    gay people say they’re the same as other people except for sexual orientation while speaking in a lisp, dressing like women, walking around with a limp wrist, and so absorbed in their own “gay culture” lmao.

    • Germandude

      Well, you do understand that this is a gay parade, don’t you? In Brazil and Europe, we got carnival where everyone is dressing up in costumes. USA got Halloween where everybody dresses up.
      After those events, people tend to dress up “normal” and return to their “normal” jobs. Except people that think they were born in the wrong gender but that’s a whole different story.

      You, Shaniqua1990 sound like most of the Chinese commenters: Afraid of the unknown. Maybe it would help if you left your PC once in a while and have a look into the world that’s outside.

      • http://www.facebook.com/alex.k.tso Alex Ka Wei Tso

        And I say more: there is no ‘gay culture’, the same way there is no “straight culture”… humanity is so diverse!

        You may think gays are all like this because those are the ones that always appear on television shows, gay parades, and so on… but there are gays of all kind, anywhere.

        It’s the same of watching Carnival in Brazil and assume brazilians party everyday shaking their booties and having sex on the streets… come on, get your facts straight… don’t ashame yourself leaving such superficial arguments here…

        • Shaniqua1990

          there is no “gay culture” lmao. Maybe it would help if you left your PC once in a while and have a look into the world that’s outside.

      • Shaniqua1990

        i like how you deflected the premise of the argument with a red herring. speaking with a lisp and walking around with a limp wrist is not “dressing up for a day”. Gay people do not think they were born the wrong gender, that’s transgender people.

        lmao. you really don’t know wut u sayin?

        • Germandude

          Ok, I wrote: “Except people that think they were born in the wrong gender but that’s a whole different story.”

          Too difficult to understand this sentence? And gay people’s behaviour that you are describing is an exaggeration used by a minority of gay people (at least the impression I got). Shall I know complain that those wanna-be gangsters wear too big clothes, caps and can’t talk a sentence without ending “you know what I am sayin’?”.

          Or that many Rock/Heavy Metal fans have long hair?
          For one it’s the soccer club, football club, music band or what not. For the other it’s being gay, what’s the deal?

  • 平凡人

    It’s their choice. Personally, they can marry whoever they want. By they way, the so-call actress cum singer giving a speech with the wayfarer shades; she looks like my kind of gal.

    • 3ayo

      Lol, I thought she was an effeminate dude until I read the captions.

    • linette lee

      her name is Denise Ho. A pretty girl. She just came out admitting she’s lesbo.
      I support her.

      http://bagua.ifensi.com/article-359927.html

  • alien

    cool. whateva floats your boat however, my ship sails differently.

  • rollin wit 9′s

    I too have been in the closet for a long time but I think I will come out now because I found which shirt I want to wear! It’s got YMCA on it.

  • dim mak

    The problem isn’t sexuality, it’s the sexual minorities use their identity to support all kinds of liberal/leftist ideals because of some misguided sense of “solidarity”. As a bisexual guy, I’m hoping these people remain patriotic and nationalistic and resist falling into the “compassion” trap. Don’t let it divide us like it does in western countries.

    • http://www.facebook.com/alex.k.tso Alex Ka Wei Tso

      It’s hard to be patriotic when your own government consider yourself a second-class citizen. I wouldn’t expect a different behavior… altough there are LGBTs who are not leftist as well. But in a general sense, it’s the “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” rule…

  • MrT

    Well gayness is wide open and public on the mainland, doing good business by all accounts.

  • Kim

    these gay hong kongers should be rounded up, and put inside a gas chamber.

    • Kukuku

      They already live in China. Gas chamber enough as it is.

  • elizabeth

    I have no problem with gays as long as they do not tell me what or what not to think; force me to accept what I find unnatural; or call me a bigot just because I don’t agree with their values.

  • Alphy

    Wow. Talk about a gay fearing nation. HK is a lot more accepting than the mainland. I remember one time when there were suppose to be a pride parade in Shanghai, it were advertised, then got changed to a private party, then got shut down.

    I am no fan of the “gay culture” where many try to stand out by talking in lisp etc, I don’t know what that accomplish but I do respect everyone’s own rights to chose and are for gay rights. It is true that Chinese culture is very anti sub culture. It will be a long time before that change.

  • Alphy

    BTW, I can’t get Chinasmack to load again without VPN in China (shanghai). What’s going on?

    • Nanjing! Nanjing!

      Welcome to communist state controlled media.

  • Gallopavo

    Ahh, I love reading the comments and learning what the biggest idiots and bigots on the www have to say. Why is the world fearful of China, read their minds

  • xiaohouzi

    A society that tolerates activities such as these are actually the most civilized despite all the prancing around in underwear. I’d much rather attend a gay parade than ride on public transportation full of dirty people spitting, smoking, pissing or shitting.

    • mr.wiener

      I have a commission to produce 12 pink imperial stormtrooper outfits for the next Taipei gay pride march.
      Sounds like fun, say hi if you see me there.

  • Phidasan

    Out of all the qualities we see in a person, lets not dwell on who they choose to sleep with in their spare time. Being straight or gay is a choice and that is only a minimal reflection of who s/he is…

  • slergh

    Haha holy shit chinese people are homophobic

  • CreamOfSumYungGai

    The irony to Sino homophobia is, with a 40-some million male to female disparity in [mainland] China, courtesy of the One Child Policy, homosexuality (of the male variety) will only increase in the coming years.

  • http://twitter.com/thetimmalone Tim Malone

    White piggu spreading their filth in Asia. Go home white piggu!

  • darren

    Tell me looking at these pictures gay are ordinary people? They are anything but, and they are just shooting themselves in the foot, portraying themselves as rubbish!

  • Dr Sun

    WOW ! Glad I missed all this homophobic rambling.

  • Laowai

    Doesn’t China have bigger problems to worry about, than two people who love each other?

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