Spikes Under Chinese Overpasses To Prevent Sleeping Homeless?

Pyramid shaped cement blocks placed underneath overpasses in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, China, possibly to discourage homeless from sleeping under them.

From NetEase:

Guangzhou and Shenzhen install cement spikes under overpasses to guard against the homeless

Recently, new “landscaping” has appeared under the overpasses in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, featuring a lot of individual pyramid-shaped pointy-little pieces of cement covering the entire overpass floor. Some netizens say this was done by chengguan to guard against homeless sleeping under the overpasses and affecting the appearance/image of the city, but the city management officials deny this. Southern Metropolis Daily

Pyramid shaped cement blocks placed underneath overpasses in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, China, possibly to discourage homeless from sleeping under them.

July 1 evening, under elevated airport highway’s Huangshi entrance, over a hundred square meters of flat cement ground has been covered with cement spikes.

Pyramid shaped cement blocks placed underneath overpasses in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, China, possibly to discourage homeless from sleeping under them.

Pyramid shaped cement blocks placed underneath overpasses in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, China, possibly to discourage homeless from sleeping under them.

Pyramid shaped cement blocks placed underneath overpasses in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, China, possibly to discourage homeless from sleeping under them.

Pyramid shaped cement blocks placed underneath overpasses in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, China, possibly to discourage homeless from sleeping under them.

Pyramid shaped cement blocks placed underneath overpasses in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, China, possibly to discourage homeless from sleeping under them.

Pyramid shaped cement blocks placed underneath overpasses in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, China, possibly to discourage homeless from sleeping under them.

July 1 evening, under elevated airport highway’s Huangshi entrance, over a hundred square meters of flat cement ground has been covered with cement blocks.

Comments from NetEase:

中石油CEO [网易山西省朔州市网友]:

American homeless not only get free food provided for them every day, there are even volunteers who regularly come give them medical checkups.
If a certain country [China] keeps cracking down on the homeless, the homeless will end up having to go to public places to sleep.

印小兄 [网易浙江省杭州市网友]:

One shouldn’t go too far…

84721791 [网易山东省网友]:

Why not just bury/plant landmines?

清风泛舟 [网易广东省网友]:

Affecting the city’s appearance/image? Unbelievable! You bastards.

李未未 [网易山东省潍坊市网友]:

I seem to see a bunch of graves for government officials.

印小兄 [网易浙江省杭州市网友]:

Looks like a bunch of small graves.

夏小阿碗 [网易江苏省盐城市网友]:

Chengguan, this is inexcusably wrong! This is inhuman!!

网易江苏省常州市网友:

This is you forcing people to cause trouble.

网易广西南宁市网友:

[Can the government please] use taxpayers’ money to do something meaningful!

chengfeir [网易广东省中山市网友]:

How a country treats its women, children, and disadvantaged determines how civilize that country is. This time, China has once again made us feel ashamed.

网易河北省石家庄市网友:

You guys doing this is basically forcing these people who have no way out to rise up!!! Why not build some homeless shelters! If they had a place to go, would they still go under the overpasses!? Are you guys fit to be the people’s public servants!? If we ordinary common people truly were the masters [of the country], public servants like you guys would’ve died a hundred times already!!!

操蛋宫乌猿 [网易山东省潍坊市网友]:

Instead of thinking about how to provide a better social security/safety net system, you guys spend all day thinking up these lousy ideas, just how did I end up electing you guys?

沙吹来的风 [网易山东省潍坊市网友]:

What guarding against homeless? It must be to prevent people from parking there. There must be a paid parking lot nearby.

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  • Dr SUN

    On the sofa, spike up your ass . OUCH !!

    Chinese Social welfare at it’s best, move them on so they are not our problem .

  • Keircules

    I remember in Guangzhou by Xiao Bei there was a small homeless community living underneath on the the sky walks, The came the asian games and that was quickly destroyed to, but they but in a path way with nice landscaping and steel bars over anywhere else the homeless would sleep. This looks more like an attempt to prevent illegal u-turns, and electric scooters from going anywhere they want

    • Genki

      Totally Agree with you, Using this as an attempt to prevent illegal u turns sound logical.
      And Theres still plenty of room to sleep between the spikes, maybe its even comfortable.

      • xiaopengyou

        But the cars are going the same direction on both sides. And in the first pic, the underpass has no cars at all. Can’t see how these things will significantly deter homeless people either. Lay a plank of wood over the spikes and you have a nice bed that wont conduct much heat from the ground. Maybe it’s for acoustic reasons, like to prevent echo or something.

        • cardaver

          It could be acoustic, but I wonder why the government won’t tell people what it’s for, as opposed to just denying that it’s to deter homeless sleepers. This seems to often happen in China, people accuse the officials of doing something, the officials just say no, but don’t provide an explanation as to what they actually are doing.

          Maybe I’m the ignorant one here, maybe refusing to explain your actions has something to do with face, I don’t know Chinese culture that well, but if they just did explain, common people would have a lot less to complain about, I think

          • Dan

            Happens so often. Officials do a thing that’s actually somewhat logical, but don’t bother explaining the purpose. Someone snaps a photo and everyone starts bitching about it like it has some ulterior motive. Government *maybe* responds to it by disclaiming the alleged purpose, but not explaining what it’s actually for. Everyone screams at the officials some more.

            This thing looks more like it’s to dissuade parking, u-turns, etc. I have seen the benches that are designed to keep people from sleeping on them, but they are typically in higher traffic areas and it just makes sense.

            Now… when you see crap like this overseas (especially in the US), the purpose is flat out obvious, even stated and boasted “we’re getting rid of the homeless scum”. Based on the Chinese comments, they honestly have no idea what the hell they are talking about, but this is fairly common for 公知 and 公知 wannabees.

        • Keircules

          Dosen’t Matter that the cars are going the same way, I can’t count thee times I had to dodge a taxi on the sidewalk. One way streets? a suggestion, sidewalks? an overflow for crowded roads. Under an overpass? turning lane. This is the reality.

    • https://acrossthetasman.com/forum.php 山炮 ShanPao

      china has much less homeless than America, UK, France et al combined…. words said. Suck my dick if you dont agree… its true.

      • oOWOo

        lol… I have never seen a homeless or a poor person in China… :-)

        • http://www.wtchina.freeforums.org Elijah

          Totally agreed.

          I also find the complete lack of prostitutes or child beggars to be especially strange coming from decadent and imperialist Canada.

          • whiskersthecat

            The only poor person I saw in China was myself when I looked in the mirror. You see, I only own ONE Chrysler and no fake gold necklaces.

      • Ray

        ^ He probably speaks the truth! China probably does have much less homeless compared to the amount of homeless in America, UK, France et al all combined together!

        • Bruce Tutty

          Perhaps, but with all the past lies,and so much ignorance of the world when it spoken of, how can anything coming out of China be believed?

      • pada

        While some naive Chinese small-towners who only saw America thru Hollywood kitsch posted a “American homeless get free food provided for them every day”, they were too ignorant to realize the root of issue—Kelly Thomas could’ve still been alive and kicking if these cement spike things’d been installed in Fullerton county.
        Jail the good-for-nothing county officials and an acquittal to five heroic American cops who weigh a total of only 1000 pound!!!

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kelly-Thomas-Police-Beating.jpg

      • El Puma R.

        Yeah, that’s if you say “homeless” . how about the people who have a home but can’t even afford basic healthcare and basic education? in that case, China and India get all the awards.

        don’t use such excuses so you can feel better with yourself, It’s absolutely negligent for you to say that.

        • https://acrossthetasman.com/forum.php 山炮 ShanPao

          your telling me america does not have millions who cannot afford healthcare?

          • Young Man

            Yeah, America has shitty healthcare but I coem from the civilized world (Australia, Canada, UK, Ireland, New Zealand) where we have the NHS which, if any Chinese person suggested it, would be dismissed as the ravings of a lunatic.

          • moop

            “I coem from the civilized world (Australia, Canada, UK, Ireland, New Zealand)”

            so the US isnt civilized?

          • Bruce Tutty

            No we don’t considered the US to be civilised, due to how many countries it invades, and how many people globally get to suffer at your hands

          • moop

            i’m willing to accept that argument, even if i dont agree with it bruce. what i don’t accept is how Young Man implies in his post that not having universal healthcare is what makes the US uncivilized

          • Bruce Tutty

            I agree with him. The US has a profit making industry, not a healthcare system in the real sense.

          • moop

            there are only civilized people, not civilized governments. if people were to exhibit the qualities that that governments do, we would not consider said people to be civilized. there is nothing civilized or compassionate about a government using guns to force people into doing what the majority think is “right”. government is force, and whether you live in the US or any of the other “civilized governments” mentioned above, any kind of abstaining from paying taxes towards legislated morality would be met with FORCE. that is not civilized behavior. it is bullying. it is self-righteous and morally bankrupt

          • Little Wolf

            Who are you, Bruce? The Planter’s Peanut guy? Yeah, you’re fucking civilized.

          • tai wai

            there are only civilized people, not civilized governments.

            And people that put their own pocketbooks above the health and well being of their countrymen are not civilized people. They are selfish and morally immature. This would describe many Americans, I’d say.

            government is force, and whether you live in the US or any of the other “civilized governments” mentioned above, any kind of abstaining from paying taxes towards legislated morality would be met with FORCE. that is not civilized behavior. it is bullying. it is self-righteous and morally bankrupt

            Taxes are not theft. Not paying taxes IS theft. Breaking the law. And lawbreaking is usually met by force, yes. What would be the point of laws if they weren’t enforced?

            Oh, wait, I get it. You’re saying that a law you don’t like shouldn’t be enforced, because you don’t agree with it. Because you’re selfish and uncivilized.

            Meh.

          • moop

            “nd people that put their own pocketbooks above the health and well being of their countrymen are not civilized people. They are selfish and morally immature. This would describe many Americans, I’d say.”

            this would describe MOST people in the entire world, i’d say. there is nothing moral about forcing other people to succombing to your will. thats what oppressive totalitarian regimes do, it’s their MO. some of us actually think what is truly moral is doing something to help yourselves instead of being morally lazy an relying on others to do so (and rather inefficiently as well) for you.

            “Taxes are not theft. Not paying taxes IS theft. Breaking the law. And lawbreaking is usually met by force, yes. What would be the point of laws if they weren’t enforced?”

            income taxes are legal theft. any tax that is not consumption based is legalized theft. again, if people acted like governments do, we would call that person an asshole. your argument holds no water. do people who do not want to pay taxes in order to protest the US war machine doing something immoral? are they stealing? as if just because something is a law it automatically becomes just. the patriot act is law, does that make it just?

            “Oh, wait, I get it. You’re saying that a law you don’t like shouldn’t be enforced, because you don’t agree with it. Because you’re selfish and uncivilized.”

            no, you dont get it. governments tend to understand the power of the purse. and i’m not saying a law i dont like shouldnt be enforced. i am saying some laws, especially those which constitute legalized theft, are not moral nor are they just.

            selfish and uncivilized… lets see. you rely on a government to enforce your vision of morality on others. i suppose mandating people go to church is OK too? if people choose not to comply with moral legistlation, you supports violence and the barrel of a gun to enforce your ideas of what is moral… i see. you’ve really opened my eyes. morality should be legislated via alms for the poor, but should not be legistlated when applied to things like drugs, prostitution, homosexuality, abortion, or anything else deemed morally sensitve by the public. statists like you are hypocrits

          • moop

            “some of us actually think what is truly moral is doing something to help yourselves instead of being morally lazy an relying on others to do so (and rather inefficiently as well) for you.”

            yourselves is supposed to be “others”

          • Little Wolf

            Aw fuck….are we really gonna play “my developed country is more civilized than your developed country”?
            Seriously?
            It’s all been done before but we can all re-gurgitate the classics if you want.

            Your shitty and boring soccer vs. American football? The metric system? How we saved your asses in World War 2? Your creepy, limp-wristed handshakes? How all you uppity fucks have benefitted from all that US aggression and merely form 1 big 51st state and all you can do about it is make snippy remarks on internet forums? So suck it up bitches.

    • Robert

      I doubt that, look where the spikes go, all the way up to under the walk way (3rd picture), this is definitely a deterrent against homeless people, and for the money they spent on doing this they probably could have opened up a small center for the homeless instead.

      • radbab

        why help when you can PUNISH!?

        seriously, they treat homeless the same in parts of the US. In Palm Beach they even have those pyramids to deter regular folks from walking next to the road. Got no car, buddy? You’re not welcome!

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  • DCONN

    Thats shameful. They treat them like their not human. How a nation treats its orphans and poor reflects its moral aptitude

    • swat

      Give me a break….

    • Anon E Moose

      Consider this a promotion for the socially undesirables, the
      underprivileged of the PRC.

      Instead of being considered Locusts, they are now upgraded to
      annoying Pigeons, or Rats w/ Wings as we call them here in the West.

      • asdf

        They’re not even attached to the floor, if some homeless guy wants to sleep there he’ll just kick the pyramid things out of the way.

    • Nanny Hiccups

      I agree! Look at all those countries that abuse their countries. They have no pride or dignity. All the countries with prominience and wealth respects its citizens.

      • Nanny Hiccups

        I meant abuse their citizens…

        • mr. wiener

          I hate it when countries abuse themselves. That’s how earthquakes happen.

        • lonetrey

          But “abuse of their own citizens” is probably a statement that can be applied to all countries…. it’s just in varying degrees.

          But I get what you meant, some places just do it so much more than others.

  • moop

    they should put these on the sidewalk too. it would keep the cars from riding all over the sidewalks and people might actually look where the hell they are going in general

    • Kong

      lol Ding

    • El Puma R.

      Absolutely

      • mr. wiener

        Genius! Something like the dragon’s teeth on the siegfried line.

  • 404namenotfound

    “What guarding against homeless? It must be to prevent people from parking there. There must be a paid parking lot nearby.” That’s more like it :|

  • Ryo

    Really don’t think it’s for the homeless. They usually sleep in front of stores that have closed for the day. I mean, no matter how dumb they are, a simple wooden board on top of those spikes will make a nice living space with free security around you in case someone want to jack your stuff and run.

  • Mop

    In the first pic, the stone pillars are so spaced out that they can be used as a headrest!

  • red scarf

    Waste of time and money, what will happen is they will chip away at it over time, or they will get a plank of wood to put over it plus levelling it out.

  • 文志明

    Outsiders always think, self-claimed socialism countries ought to provide the best social welfare for their people at a primary role, and so the governments must be smarter to handle such a problem.

  • redgirl

    4×8 plywood.

  • Misaki

    >just how did I end up electing you guys?

    ?

    Oh, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China

    “According to BBC News, state media regularly reports on vote buying and corruption during these [local] elections to discredit wider implementation in higher levels of government.” lol ._.

  • Chef Rocco

    Too much guess and speculation.

    The management unit of the overpass has clarified that they built these spikes 12 years ago to prevent jaywalking. Also, they said that it is not safe for homeless to sleep there.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/dfpd/2012-07/03/content_15546341.htm

    • xiaopengyou

      That makes no sense at all. In pic #1, there’s no road. It didn’t stop the guy in pic #4. And in pic #5 the overpass is what, 3ft tall? Anyone who’s walked the steps of the great wall on a rainy day could easily navigate this. A simple fence would have done a better job, and probably a lot cheaper too.

      • Dan

        Sure, but fences have a habit of being cut apart and sold for scrap. No one’s gonna bother stealing concrete spikes.

      • radbab

        or it’s against car and scooters making U-turns on those. That’s the only reasonable explanation.

        Actually those spikes are quite un-Chinese. Could’ve sold this valuable space as parking space and make even more money!

  • redgirl

    Spikes Under Chinese Overpasses To Prevent Sleeping Homeless?
    Spikes Under Chinese Overpasses, To Prevent damaged tyres?

  • Jeff

    Now where am I going to sleep tonight?

    • redgirl

      Overpasses?

  • bustanmente jones

    could also just be to stop cars parking there, there seems to be lots of space between some of the spikes, a person could fit in there, I’ve seen Chinese people sleeping on fence chains, they can sleep anywhere!

    • Ryo

      They don’t need spikes for that. They can issue them a 200rmb ticket instead.

  • 平凡人

    Spikes can be dangerous is someone trips and fall on it. Spending money to install spikes is not going to solve the problem, they will still find places to sleep which may be more secluded. The spikes only ensure that these homeless people are not seen by the general public which includes foreigners and “leaders”. Another “face” project. LOL

    • radbab

      > Spikes can be dangerous is someone trips and fall on it

      think of it as an extension to the one child policy. The government really doesn’t care if there are less people.
      Otherwise they’d probably do something about all the other things that kill people here, like pollution, cigarettes, fake food, total disregard of traffic laws (seatbelts anyone?). No, I don’t think safety is of anyone’s concern here.

      • 平凡人

        guess you are right in this case.

    • http://www.bestvpninchina.com Rod

      Perhaps it’s an attempt to crack down on falling.

  • http://www.kalanstar.com KopyKatKiller

    I thought China was the promised land built on Dengism? Homelessness is a Western problem, errr, right?

    • El Puma R.

      of course ! no homeless in China, nor handicapped people. Also there’s no people with mental disabilities whatsoever.

      Poverty, crime, protest, strikes, they’re all problems of the “foreign devil”. China is a safe, clean, quiet, unpolluted and beautiful place.

      For those who don’t know me, I’m being truly sarcastic.

      Though China is beautiful, it makes me sad how hard many Chinese people try to make it look like shit.

  • Nanny Hiccups

    This is why poor people become desperate enough to resort to a life a crime. Hard to get a job when you stick because you have no shower. Hard to get a job when you have no clothes. Hard to think clearly and rationally when you haven’t eaten in days. Life is hard enough as it is so why make it harder? If all one wants is a little place to sleep under a bridge, why not let them?

    • B-real

      Wrong, homeless people can shower in the same public shower that the other poor people who have shelter. Homeless can clean their clothes the same way the other poor people can clean their clothes. I don’t know about you but there are plenty of good cheap foods homeless people can eat for just 5 mao on the streets. If they haven’t eaten in days is because they chose not or are severely mentally disabled and that is where you can blame the GOV for not protecting and treating humanely. Homeless people chose to live off the grid, they chose that life. They don’t work for they don’t pay taxes in result they shouldn’t live in, on or under my bridge. They shouldn’t be seen unless shitting, pissing or rummaging thru my garbage or begging for money. They want rights they should be a productive member of society or face the consequences of Government sweeps. There are the exceptions like little kids and the handicap but sane minded drunks and crooks made their choices and they have to live with it.

  • Nanny Hiccups

    This is why poor people become desperate enough to resort to a life a crime. Hard to get a job when you stink because you have no shower. Hard to get a job when you have no clothes. Hard to think clearly and rationally when you haven’t eaten in days. Life is hard enough as it is so why make it harder? If all one wants is a little place to sleep under a bridge, why not let them?

  • El Puma R.

    Shame? losing face?

    don’t cry now, you’ve brought this upon yourselves, and I’m sure you forgot about it 5 minutes later. And the homeless are the ones who get to suffer, so you can sadly wait for hours inside your car in a traffic jam, wasting fuel and polluting while you talk to your xiao san on your iphone4s and later tell your friends how happy your life is. Keep doing it, come on.

    I want to watch it all go down (great song . Tool – Aenima)

  • Brochacho

    These spikes are build to prevent cars from shortcuts or crashing into everyone else if there was an accident.”Just because it is written(this article) don’t make it true.”

  • whiskersthecat

    You’re telling me that a Chinese man can’t find a way to sleep on those?

    • eattot

      your avatar is so cool and pretty,hahaha!

    • Nanny Hiccups

      Is your cat’s eyes yellow? I love tuxedo cats. This one is just like mine but mine is black with the white fur around the neck, and also has the white mittens. But the one in your avatar looks like he/she has a real mustache. very cute ~

    • whiskersthecat

      Haha thank you, to the both of you. I aim to please.
      Sadly, though, this is not my cat. It’s just some cat I found on the internet. My real life cat has a boring face without a mustache. Pathetic, I know.

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        • whiskersthecat

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          • mr. wiener

            sux to be popular huh?

          • jeffli

            Looks like my pussy!

          • jeffli

            Whiskers needs a shave!

  • mouse

    I could sleeo on these

  • radbab

    > city management officials deny this

    some reasons…

    1) it’s against the homeless but admitting so would mean losing face: There are no homeless people in the glorious socialist country. it’s all lies!

    2) some official runs a concrete pyramid company and wanted to funnel away tax payer’s money. Note the shoddy quality in the 2nd last picture. It’s all coming loose again

    3) locals show no common sense and are deaf to reason – like not crossing streets/highway/whatever unless there’s a fence, a minefield or some annoying concrete pyramids in their way.

    4) it’s cheaper than Shanghai’s grass and flowers(?). And rock..err..concrete gardens can be beautiful too. Just ask the Japanese.

    either one all of those 4…

  • Archie

    • Foreign Devil

      feel sorry for the animators that had to animate that. It was not funny or clever at all.

  • Foreign Devil

    THey are obviously there to discourage cars from parking and driving on the surface. Cars drive and park illegally everywhere in CHina.

  • http://www.beijing.tumblr.com Diana

    Not every American homeless gets food and medical care. There are too many homeless mouths too feed and bodies to take care of. A perfect world like that is impossible. 每个美利坚的流浪汉不可能都能吃到饭。有太多这种人。这样十全十美的世界是没有的。

    • B-real

      sorry but yeah they do if they decide to take those options. its out there for them in quite an abundance.

  • B-real

    This is so not for Homeless people but it knocks 2 birds in 1 stone. I believe its to keep the cars from operating in unwanted spots or illegal parking, plus it diverts flooding or build up of garbage. If anything if it does target homeless people its actually protecting them from harm being as though construction engineers from China don’t really make safe structures on a consistent basis. This method is Cheap, for when someone decides to role in, it will damage the car first or a remold of a shitty spike for 20 RMB of instant concrete instead of putting in an order for brand new structurally sound guard rail can cost some money.

  • Shanghairen

    The Chengguan have a team of masons?

  • http://chinasmack jason

    I was homeless last summer of 2011 I had 2 sleep everywhere I could find I even slept in a public bathroom I was tresspassing nd got a warning I couldnt go there anymore I coudnt sleep under the highway cause I’m scared of loud noises nd I can’t believe this happens in chengguan wow this is juss horrible god bless the homeless nd may they be blessed there soon I got out of homelessness after my bday nd got back on my feet I am so happy may chenngguan relize what there doing nd change it

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  • Justin

    I would say those spikes were probably more likely used to keep people from driving outside of their lanes. This is all just speculation.

  • wacky

    homeless problem is common all across asia, usually villagers who cant make it in the city ended up become homeless or build up some illegal structure, of course the city government would not let these people to “ruin” the city’s beauty. especially if those homeless and illegal are not the citizen of the city.
    anyway i rarely saw homeless when i lived in guangzhou.

    • al

      you rarely saw homeless here in GZ? sorry to be rude, but did you also rarely open your eyes? there are certain areas literally teeming with them, especially around san yuan li, all up and down jichang lu up to xinshi, all around the train station area, and generally all throughout baiyun and parts of haizhu and yuexiu districts as well. almost any overpass i walk under has sleeping homeless or their belongings (bedrolls, food, bags, etc).

  • peye

    Looks to me that it is a means to prevent car parking here. Perhaps it is also a measure of safety.

  • Lord Starck

    Why not use barb wire? It’s more filigran.

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  • Cigar

    The behavior of Chinese government will leave a ruthless impression to Chinese civilians.

  • Andrew from Melbourne

    These concrete spikes are definitely to try and stop the homeless sleeping under bridges.
    Every city in the world has homeless people – we should be doing everything possible to help these people NOT to make life more difficult.

  • romain

    Wish the Chinese leaders who decided that become homeless in future.

  • George B

    I suppose the homeless must be protected against sleeping to death.

  • bobfairlane

    That is easy to defeat. Find a board and lay it on the spikes, or knock loose some bricks and make a small platform to lie on.

  • bobfairlane

    Either it’s to deter the homeless from camping, to prevent errant drivers from going there, or you guys have some MASSIVE pigeons!

  • Peter

    He who builds anti-homeless spikes should sleep on them. He should sleep on the bed he made for others.

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