Victim’s Family Now Demands Money They Had Previously Refused

Zhang Miao's husband Wang Hui and Yao Jiaxin's lawyer get into a fight.

In 2010, a young Chinese man named Yao Jiaxin hit a young woman named Zhang Miao with his car. Noticing her memorizing his license place number and afraid that she would cause him trouble, he took a knife and stabbed her eight times until she died before fleeing. He was later put on trial, convicted, and executed in 2011.

From NetEase:

Family of the victim in the Yao Jiaxin Case demands restitution, gets in fight with lawyer of Yao’s father

February 8th after 11am, Xi’an, Yao Jiaxin victim Zhang Miao’s father Zhang Pingxuan, Zhang Miao’s husband Wang Hui, and lawyer Zhang Xian arrived at Yao Jiaxin’s father Yao Qingwei’s home prepared to demand the 200,000 Yao Qingwei previously offered. In 2011, Yao Jiaxin’s father Yao Qingwei’s offer of 200,000 yuan was refused by Zhang Miao’s family. With regards to this, Yao Qingwei said “the 200,000 was borrowed and has already been returned, and since they already refused it, I have no obligation to give it again.” At the scene, Wang Hui and Yao Jiaxin’s father Yao Qingwei’s representative lawyer got into a fight, and were taken away by police.

Family members of Zhang Miao in the infamous 2010 Yao Jiaxin case where a young Chinese man repeatedly stabbed a young woman to death after he had hit her causing him trouble.

February 8th at 11am in the morning, Xi’an, Zhang Miao’s father Zhang Pingxuan, Zhang Miao’s husband Wang Hui, and lawyer Zhang Xian arrived at Yao Jiaxin’s father Yao Qingwei’s home prepared to demand the 200,000 yuan they had previously rejected.

Family members of Zhang Miao in the infamous 2010 Yao Jiaxin case where a young Chinese man repeatedly stabbed a young woman to death after he had hit her causing him trouble.

Photo is of February 8th, of Zhang Miao’s relatives waiting downstairs to demand the 200,000 yuan they had previously refused.

Zhang Xian, the lawyer for the victim's family in the Yao Jiaxin case arrives to watch the victim's family demand money they had previously rejected from Yao Jiaxin's parents.

Soon, Zhang Xian (front), who had previously remarked on weibo that he wanted to come see the face off, also arrived at the residential complex where Yao Qingwei lives.

Zhang Miao's husband Wang Hui and Yao Jiaxin's lawyer get into a fight.

Arriving at Yao Qingwei’s home demanding restitution, Yao Qingwei’s lawyer Ma Yanming (right) and Zhang Miao’s husband Wang Hui (left) got into a physical altercation.

Zhang Miao's husband Wang Hui and Yao Jiaxin's lawyer Ma Yanming in a fight.

Zhang Miao's husband Wang Hui and Yao Jiaxin's lawyer Ma Yanming in a physical altercation.

Zhang Miao's husband Wang Hui fighting with Yao Jiaxin's lawyer Ma Yanming.

The Yao family's lawyer Ma Yanming telling the Zhang family's lawyer Zhang Xian to leave.

Yao Qingwei’s lawyer Ma Yanming (left) tries to convince Zhang Xian (right) to leave the residential complex where the Yao family lives.

The Yao family's lawyer Ma Yanming telling the Zhang family's lawyer Zhang Xian to leave.

Zhang Xian, lawyer for the victim's family in the Yao Jiaxin case, being escorted by police away from the home of Yao's parents.

Zhang Xian being forcibly taken away from the scene by police.

Zhang Xian, lawyer for the victim's family in the Yao Jiaxin case, being escorted by police away from the home of Yao's parents.

As Zhang Xian is being taken away by police, he doesn’t forget to wave to the surrounding crowd and media from the patrol vehicle.

Zhang Miao's father Ma Pingxuan walking away from the Yao family's home after unsuccessfully demanding 200,000 RMB in restitution for his daughter's death at the Yao JIaxin's hands.

After Wang Hui, the husband of the “Yao Jiaxin Case” victim Zhang Miao, was taken away by police, Zhang Miao’s father Zhang Pingxuan was unsuccessful in getting the 200,000 yuan and left Yao Qingwei’s home.

From Youku:

Comments from NetEase:

网易江苏省苏州市网友:

Today I saw on other discussion forums a statement, which I’m reposting here: Finally understand why Yao Jiaxin committed murder at the time, as it is now clear [the victim] was unusually troublesome [demanding and unreasonable, as evidenced by her family].

jakeyhrj [网易四川省成都市网友]:

Wow, first,
I really feel sympathetic with Yao Jiaxin’s father right now.

Zhang Miao’s husband is really inhuman.

巴蜀汉 [网易重庆市网友]:

Totally shameless, they already compensated you guys with a life, and you still come demanding money!

wsfxnzzx [网易宁夏银川市网友]:

Rural people are very troublesome, Eight Stabs [nickname for Yao Jiaxin] was right.

wapty [网易重庆市网友]:

In the face of all this ugliness, I don’t feel like expressing a point of view.

黄石道人 [网易山东省青岛市网友]:

Already demanded a life, now demanding money, that’s just insisting on being shameless!

网易浙江省嘉兴市手机网友:

When someone robs you, they ask, “Do you want your money or your life”. Does the Zhang family not even understand this rule? I can’t watch any further.

网易香港网友:

If someone commits murder, then they must pay with their life, but when that life is given to you, then they have no obligation to give you money, a life for a life.
So you now going to demand money is too shameless.

网易山东省青岛市网友:

The notion of a life for a life needs to be changed. The injury that Yao caused is not as simple as giving a life for a life. This didn’t happen to you, so you will never feel what they feel. If that were the case, then corrupt officials could just give back the money and not have any legal responsibility.

网易江苏省网友 [lhyua8]:

Their son’s life is lost, and you want them to give you money? When they had promised to give money, it was in exchange for their son’s life. Now that their son has been forced to bite the bullet, you want them to give you money?

yishenganyi [网易辽宁省大连市网友]:

They wanted a life and now they want money too. He killed someone, and paid for it with his life, that’s fair. Yao has also served as a warning for everyone. I really don’t know what should be done in the future when encountering this kind of situation.

网易广东省深圳市网友:

Money is truly something people are obsessed with! No matter what, just looking at Zhang Miao’s husband’s big fat waist and Zhang Xian’s mentality of going there to watch the fuss makes me really disgusted!

网易浙江省嘉兴市手机网友:

Yao Eight Stabs, you can rest in peace now. You’ve used your life to prove that [rural people] are troublesome.

网易青海省西宁市网友:

Pay for a life with a life, pay for a debt with money. Yao Jiaxin has already been executed, what else do you want?? When the court was passing judgment, you were so self-righteous. This 200,000 was Yao Jiaxin’s parents trying to use 200,000 to save their son from death. The victim’s family didn’t want the money, only wanted Yao Jiaxin’s life. The rest of us were filled with righteous indignation, so much that the people’s anger would not be appeased if he [Yao Jiaxin] didn’t die. Now that Yao Jiaxin has been taken out and killed, both sides are made equal. So for the Zhangs to now fucking run to the Yao Jiaxin’s parents and cause trouble, they should be stabbed 80 times!! ~~ Create a Yao 80 Stabs! No one will feel sympathy for the Zhang family! You brought it upon yourself, who would care~

纯天然奥特曼 [网易广东省广州市网友]:

Looking at the comments, Chinese people are truly sad. The attitude towards Yao Jiaxin back then, and the attitude now. Haha…

无所谓111 [网易上海市闵行区网友]:

An unspeakably greedy rural person, coupled with a lawyer made famous by causing rumors, have shown me once again human nature’s ugliness, dirty to the extreme.

网易广东省东莞市网友 [dersary]:

According to the country’s laws, the victims family of course have the right to demand civil compensation/restitution! Criminal murder and civil compensation do not conflict with each other, nor is there such a thing where one can pay money to purchase a life!

lxg84726 [网易重庆市网友]:

Since the Zhang family has already rejected Yao Jiaxin’s father’s 200,000 in restitution, this is an act of relinquishing one’s interest, which has the force of law, therefore you have no grounds for again demanding this money afterward — You can’t go back on this as it is against both reason and law. Here I ant to remind the Zhang family — Watch your behavior, don’t let the world’s people go from sympathizing with you to despising you.

What do you think?

  • http://www.wtchina.freeforums.org Elijah

    This story is disturbing on several levels….

    Stabbed a girl 8 times rather than possibly pay money…

    Family then demands money after a few years despite refusing it before…

    Money, money, money…. Worship it, it is your God.

    Stay classy china.

    • mr. weiner

      Umm….I don’t get it. The murderer’s family promised money, is rejected. He is executed. Then they demand the money? Do they have a legal leg to stand on?

      • http://www.wtchina.freeforums.org Elijah

        In china?

        Yes, the victim’s family might have a possibility of demanding payment from the killer’s family, even though they had nothing to do with it and actually offered already.

        It’s flimsy, but it’s there. Which speaks volumes about the justice system in china….

        • Greg Miles

          In developed countries you have what is called the Statute of Limitations and the Law Reform Miscellaneous Act, and the Inheritance (Family and Dependants Provision) Act which provides a cause of action to family members to act on behalf of the estate of the deceased.

        • DRaY

          what do you mean by”speaks volumes about the justice system in china”…… a murderer got executed, sounds like a legal system that works. All that B/S about the money is just cultural chinese nonsense that foreigners will never accept. Get over it.

          • http://candosino.wordpress.com terroir

            It does speak volumes about the legal system if no one has any faith in it.

            Bad ass “reservoir dogs” revenge family may have gotten justice served with that sentence, but as they don’t believe in the justice system they need to bring their lawyer out to help street brawl for a civil case that they try to settle without going to court and all that due process stuff.

            They may seem greedy, but in this capitalist world what is there but money? what else matters? Why would a death sentence comfort these people? Courts are just some formality that doesn’t concern actual people.

            That said, it’s too bad they had pictures taken so that we see they are proving to be the worst that they can be.

        • Stimpy

          I don’t think that this is the case. Once rejected, you cannot ask for the compensation two years later.

    • Ray

      There is something weird going on here, so did the murderer’s family actually tried to pay off the death sentence with 200,000? Does that actually work if the victims accepted? Does the law just look the other way and the murder is “resolved” outside the court room?

      • jin

        ray youre dumb arent you?
        they dont try to pay off the death sentence,
        its called COMPENSATION.

  • mr. weiner

    sitting on my previously refused sofa

    • http://www.wtchina.freeforums.org Elijah

      Pfft! You can have it…

      I had already stabbed it 8 times to get rid of the evidence, but that still didn’t work…..

      Anyone want to start a bidding war or a tactless joke of a retarded meme?

  • SuperJun

    wow it is sad to think the Chinese believe a life for a life is equal treatment.

    • Genxi

      When is beast commits a murder, it is very reasonable to get rid of him/her immediately from society. Sacrificing a beast’s life in exchange of an innocent human is very much worth it.

      • URMOMM

        u dont understand what the Poster before u said

        what he mean is

        that a Murder Live is not nearly so high as a innocent person who just walk over the street

        u would be ok if i kill u and then myself? i doubt

        • Genxi

          Obviously killing me is not ok…if one wants to be a suicidal, they shouldn’t take an innocent life with him/her. However, in the case of murder (with the murderer wanting to live freely afterward), then that’s when the “a life for a life” comes to play. You’ll have to understand Chinese culture to understand that statement fully.

      • 山炮 ShanPao

        Genxi, if someone killed my family member I would not want to see them dead. Firstly, I would want to see them punished for their crime with life in prison. I would say that execution is almost a luxury to the guilty party when faced with life inside the chinese prison system. Secondly, if someone is convicted for killing is it right to punish them with their own crime? Thirdly, in this case your point is flawed. You say that sacrificing a beast in exchange for an innocent human is worth it??? The way I see it is that the innocent human was killed, the murderer was killed and the innocent person is still dead… thats 2 dead people and no compensation.

        • Genxi

          Maybe in the U.S. it is cheaper to keep the prisoner on life sentence than having them bite the bullet. Like what you said, there would be two dead people and no compensation, but if they’re kept alive, they will sure put a drain on society just to keep them alive in China. In the end, however, this is more of a subjective topic rather than objective. I respect your point of view, but if I was killed, I would want to seek justice by having the murderer executed — I wouldn’t think my family be very happy seeing the murderer kept alive for such a sick act.

          • 山炮 ShanPao

            Why does everyone on this website (and seemingly everyone I meet in China) make the assumption that I am an American without any reason whatsoever. I will make it clear. I am not american and quite frankly I think america is a CUNT of a country. There we go, back to frantic masturbation.

          • Genxi

            I’m sorry to recognized you wrongly. May I ask for your nationality?

          • staylost

            There might be a clue in his profile picture, Genxi.

            Though who knows, Nelson probably left children all over the world, that scurvy dog!

          • 山炮 ShanPao

            I am Kenyan, and yes… I am white fyi.

          • Genxi

            Oh cool, I didn’t know that Kenya let foreigners be Kenyan nationals? I wouldn’t have guess, haha.

          • staylost

            Genxi, what in the wide world of science do you mean by not being sure if they “let foreigner’s be Kenyan”?

            No matter what way you look at this question it has to be the most ignorant thing I’ve heard in years. Are you even from this planet?

            I honor you, master troll, with the master troll badge of honor!

          • donscarletti

            Genxi: Good thing he’s not Rhodesian, talking that way to one of them is likely to get you a bottle to the face.

          • 山炮 ShanPao

            So first you thought I must be a lao wai, which meant that I must certainly be an american and now that you know I am white you think I cannot be a Kenyan national.

            Firstly, I am a Kenyan and always have been. I am however of british descent. There are over 60,000 KENYANS of british descent who live in Kenya alone and are KENYANS by birth and a few hundred years. Some of us have been on the continent for over 300 years. There are millions of White Africans on the continent… most notoriously in South Africa… yes those several millions of white people in South African are not foreigners as you put it, they are African. Now fuck back off to whatever rock you crawled out from and read a book or two.

          • Genxi

            I’m sorry. I did not meant to be a troll at all. Yes, I am ignorant — thus why I asked. Again, I am very sorry for the offense and anger I’ve place upon some of you.

          • Genxi

            @staylost

            I said I “didn’t know” because I know some countries such as Japan won’t let foreigners be Japanese nationals unless they are of Japanese descent. If I dismissed the possibility of my question, then I’d sure be the most ignorant fool in this world to not be open to all consideration.

          • PeterScriabin

            根系 (just a guess): hope the incredible rudeness, and lack of basic civility, of the folks you got involved with here, does not put you off coming back here.

          • 山炮 ShanPao

            yes peter, life is rough.

  • hanyucha

    Dude, the dude is dead, don’t go bothering the family, saying that though the fight pictures are fantastic. He socks that guy right in the ear – cauliflower ear time!

  • Hongjian

    That guy with the cigarette in the mouth while catfighting looks badass as fuck, even though he looks pretty pussy doing so, as his body-language signals me that he’s an bloody amateur in street fighting.

    FUCK. Somehow I want to open up a training course in China to teach some of these fuckers how to beat each other up for real, instead of this catfighting shit.

    • http://www.wtchina.freeforums.org Elijah

      Won’t that chip your mani/pedi?

      Best to let the men handle this fraulein…

      • Hongjian

        Got no such things. My nails are always neatly trimmed, since I actually use my hands for something else than just to fuck around.
        Old habit from the military times hardly dies. After all, I woulnt want nails to break if I pulled the pin from a hand-grenade before I throw it into a house full of brown people, nor do I want it to break if I have to fiddle out those shitty ammo from the chamber, because it made my standard issued shitty fucking overpriced plastic rifle jam again.

        • staylost

          Good plan, I didn’t realize you were already on video here on chinaSMACK. It must’ve been embarrassing to almost kill yourself and your instructor with that grenade while your whole unit watched. I guess with that on your record typing on the internet with Americans and homosexuals is more your cup ‘o tea.

          Break your nail and almost deep six yourself once trying to throw a grenade, shame on your manicurist.
          Break your nail and almost deep six yourself twice trying to throw a grenade, shame on you.

        • Guangjoe

          Hongjian you are a little bitch. What’s wrong, angry at your mother for sucking that laowei dick? If I were you i’d be happy as fuck. Got you that Deutschland passport, so shut the fuck up with you cyber tough guy shit.
          German army this, German army that…..if you had any balls you would be over in Afghanistan.

          Anytime you want to meet up just let me know.

          Du hurensohn, ich lebe in Berlin. Ich ficke deine mutter du opfer. eierlose affe.

          • Guangjoe
          • eurotrash

            Hongjian is neither German nor an educated human being. Btw, everyone which writes German here makes grammar mistakes like Beijingers spit around… Luckily in Netherlands we learn how to impersonate. Geert Wilders would give those pussy cat fighters a run for their money, well any westerner would i guess. Chinese might have invented Gung Fu but u still fight like girls. Bring in some Dongbei women….

          • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

            faggots. In America they would have tasered the shit out of him.

            What a bunch of faggot Chinese cops.

            The West is so violent typically they don’t fuck around. Or maybe it’s because of the smaller stature.

          • mr. weiner

            Hans:”Himmelherrgottkriegdonnervetterzemillion!! Helmut you haf put ze oumlouts in der wrong place again”.
            Helmut: “Shieser! Cherman is such ein ficken difficult language.”
            Hans: “Achtung Spitfier! zis is eine job for Deutcher Grammar Mensch.”
            All: “Deutcher Grammar Mensch!!!”……..

            Sorry, couldn’t help it. Feel free to inpersonate an Australian. Worst entry gets a slab of Fosters.

          • Hongjian

            “German army this, German army that…..if you had any balls you would be over in Afghanistan.”

            >implying I wasnt.

            Actually, I’ve never wanted to fight for Germany’s jewish masters. One time was enough. I think they should just take their compensation money, their free submarines and shut the fuck up already and stop manipulating the whole western world.

            >Du hurensohn, ich lebe in Berlin. Ich ficke deine mutter du opfer. eierlose affe.

            Du Hurensohn, ich lebe in Berlin. Ich ficke Deine Mutter, du Opfer. Eierloser Affe.

            I’m usually not a grammar-nazi, but when I do, I’m a grammar-Sturmbannführer.

            Lustiges Judenpack hier… Du solltet einfach mal zurück in den Ofen klettern, denn ich glaube nicht dass Du schon richtig durch bist…

          • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

            Hey I watched that video with sound this time (I mute my sound before coming to this site because of all your annoying ads) and basically it was some drunk language teacher at a local high school who got into a confrontation with THE FUCKING SECURITY GUARD, which cops were then called, and this guy hit both the security guard and the cop. He got 10 days in jail plus 300 rmb fine. In some parts of America that would mean a deportation bro not to mention heavy tasering. The West is way more police state in some aspects than China. People automatically think China is like such super police state when it’s not. It’s just too chaotic for that. It’s hard to imagine what it’s like unless you lived there for a extended period of time, it’s no where near a police state. It’s authoritarian nanny state.

          • Patrick

            @Mr Weiner

            Ok that was good you got me to laugh

    • 山炮 ShanPao

      **** reads another post from Hongjian where he asserts his masculinity to strangers on the internet – yawns – contemplates Hongjians inferiority issues with his size/masculinity/sexuality – slight smile, scratches balls and scrolls to next post.

    • Pete of Perth

      Where’s the flying through the air and kicking people 40m? Shit, I’ve been duped by all those chop-socky movies.
      To rectify this misconception of the all mighty power of martial arts I must immediately hire Hulk Hogan to train these chinese pussies how to throw a punch and how to grow a badass mo.

      • Hongjian

        common misconception.

        flying around is the amateurish shit that people should not do, if they want to beat someone up.

        using elbows and knees, and target throats, eyes, genitals and stomach in a rapid and violent barrage of multi-directional strikes within the smallest possible action radius is the best strategy.

        only faggots do kungfu.

        • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

          Pete of Perth is BATMAN no doubt.

          • mr. weiner

            No Batman was the founder of Melbourne.

        • Ray

          “using elbows and knees, and target throats, eyes, genitals and stomach in a rapid and violent barrage of multi-directional strikes within the smallest possible action radius is the best strategy.”

          That sounds strangely like wing tsun.

          • E Puff

            we just calling it going fucking medieval on your ass lol

          • staylost

            Its also karate, through and through. I remember laughing so hard the first time I saw a karate demonstration.

            “First you kick them in the crotch, then poke their eyes and elbow their throat. Kick their stomach. Now slap their crotch with the back of your hand and poke at their eyes again. As they fall kick their crotch really hard, and then run away to diffuse the situation.”

            Dirty fighting is winning fighting, I suppose.

        • DRaY

          hehehe… Hongjian, just called Chinese people faggots… hehe….
          funny.

        • Tengu

          I always said , I ‘d rather have you soften up a room for me than any of these other clowns.

          Never forgot the psychological impact of heavy arterial spray on any other combatants. Slice the armpits, inner thighs, sides of the neck.

          How’s the jungle agree with you…trip coming up…short, we’ll have you back in a week.

    • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

      HONGJIAN. BITCH. I AM SICK OF YOUR PUPPETRY.

      • Hongjian

        KILL ME BABBY.

  • http://www.qq.com/1325279774 Kedafu

    about 12am china time

    once again
    this is

    song of the article

    Pink Floyd
    – Money

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjI4ODY1MDAw.html

    love!

    • http://www.wtchina.freeforums.org Elijah

      Problem is that song can be used for soooooooo many articles related to chinese culture.

      Not that I’m complaining, it’s fucking phenomenal.

      PS. Yes this article is related to chinese culture

      1 – stabs the girl to “absolve” himself of paying later on

      2- demanding monetary compensation for something that CANNOT be quantified (ie: Life )

      3 – mianzi….

      • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

        Okay Batman.

        Oh please. While I’m sure China has major issues with it’s culture but I don’t like it when you take one *specific case* to say something about China as a whole while millions of people in China has nothing to do with this. If you can do that, then I can pick some random case off httx://www.truecrimereport.com and basically say the exact same things. (Or fuck, find some case that is directly relevant to this case here I’m sure I can find one out of ALL THOSE FUCKED UP cases out there.)

        1 – blah blah someone in a heinous crime.

        2 – Some other fucked up thing related to this case which we can then draw some conclusion about the system in one form or another.

        3 – FUCKING some FACE. Yes of course Westerners think about FACE; just look at the commenters on this website; just look at your gay foreign policies and adventures.

        ….

        Another fucked up thing about you guys is whenever something fucks up in your country, you shift blame, either it’s “the government” (yeah democracy guys *clap clap*) or it’s some corporation. But when something fucked up happens somewhere else, it’s immediately blame the culture, ie the fucking people.

        • http://www.wtchina.freeforums.org Elijah

          At first, when I read you initial reply here I was wondering what exactly you were smoking, then I read your later replies, thought back to your other posts and realized that you actually do have some pretty severe mental issues. I’m not saying that to insult you or diminish you, but rather to say that you should consider talking to someone and dealing with those issues. I wouldn’t recommend medication unless it was imminently necessary.

          Back to the topic at hand, allow me to explain:

          1. Yes heinous crimes happen everywhere in the world, no matter the race or nationality, this was NOT my argument at all. My argument was that he would rather kill some random stranger on on the chance that she might demand money later on. I’m sorry to say, but this happens in china quite frequently and I’ve never heard of it happening in Canada. I would rather go to jail for a few years rather than take a Life. Simple.

          2. In many countries, people are able to sue others for pain and suffering, but it’s strictly bad taste to ask for “compensation” for a Life. The chinese government is complicit in reinforcing this notion by providing evaluations (for lack of a better word) for the cost of a lost Life (ie: 100,000RMB for all the victim’s family of some horrible accident). If someone I loved was murdered, I’d be devastated and no amount of little bits of paper would bring her back or satisfy me. How could I put a number on something like her Life and live with myself? Disgusting to the extreme.

          3. Face… Yes Face… Get used to it… Soooooooo many problems in china are either started by “face” or made significantly larger because of it or by it. As long as this happens, people will call it out. For example, rape in South Africa is endemic, it has become the norm rather than an abhorrent crime. Because it is so widespread, should people stop mentioning it? Has it been taking off the table as a problem? Same thing with face.

          Been a pleasure as always Cap.

          • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

            I only have a few seconds to response so lets make it quick.

            1. What does it matter what the reasons are for killing her. Killing someone for whatever reason is wrong. What matters is murderers are twisted people; they freaking murder!

            2. Just recently there has been a few cases in the West where basically some rich guy hit and run some other person and then settled with the family for huge sums of money and walked. Or another hit and run case where some wallstreet guy for the super rich walked on the basis that he was important to the ECONOMY. So tell me how could people put a number of people’s lives like that? As for the set price on paying vicitm’s family, maybe that’s how the chinese system works because it’s socialist.

            3. I’m saying the term FACE may have interchangeable terms in other places. Well maybe china do have a FACE thing. I just see it used a lot as a code word for basically crap that humans do.

          • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

            #3. Chinese people do love money I agree with you on that. What I thought you meant with what you wrote about is you tried to tie the concept of FACE to getting compensation. It’s just I think there can be other explanations beside the trite FACE thing again. How about they want to get paid. The girl is dead, that sucks, but fuck it let’s at least get paid. A lot of people in a lot of places would do the same thing. Maybe not you because you may have had a comfortable middle class life. For others it’s not so simple. Then again, read my #2 above. The truth is money can be used to dampen that emotion pain you feel for your loved one. Sure it doesn’t replace anything but it’s money.

          • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

            I was also saying you can’t take this one specific case and then use it support how you think greed in China as a whole. The people involved in this are all sick. But still, I don’t know if someone murdered my sister I’d want that guy to pay in all ways possible. You are making it out to be that it’s all about the money when it could be about that, but it also could be about people being emotional. I mean especially when you are talking about murder. That’s just another side to consider.

          • http://www.wtchina.freeforums.org Elijah

            *Say he only has a few seconds*

            *Spends the next half hour leaving 3 separate comments*

            *Repeats what was previously said without further explanation or reasoning*

            *Invited to re-read what was written, no fine-print included, all out in the open*

            *Will come back with more nonsensical screaming lacking any purpose*

            *Trolly Troll is Trolling*

      • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

        http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/charlotte-church-stands-alone-as-hacking-victims-settle-6676524.html

        What.The.Fuck. is up with the fuckers on this website and the constantly finger pointing?

        The West Is Nothing But Money. Are you Fuckers Live in the Same Reality As I live In?

        • E Puff

          chinese are afraid of their government. the west are not. we would throw a pie at the president’s face if given a chance . take a beating for it, but anyone of us would do it lol. ps, i like o bama andmet him (before he was pres and just a professor) and would never do that.

          • SuperHappyCow

            You would actually, most definitely be labeled a terrorist and extradited to Egypt.

        • Naoko

          Capt.WED… your reality is living in your small crap apartment… working your food cart on a corner… eating fake eggs and over priced junk food, cooked in cooking oil from the gutter. With a mouth full of bad teeth and greasy hair. Your girlfriend or wife is probably getting rimmed by some white foreigner and comes home with a smile on her face. You probably studied English all your life… you can write a little, but you can’t speak a lick of it. A yellow monkey who doesn’t have the intelligence to realize how truly shitty your country is to live in.

          I wish you could travel outside your country… and see what it’s like to live in a country that is clean, where citizens respect the law, not just trying to find a way around it. You speak from a position of no experience of the outside world.

          Here’s Chinese culture in a nutshell… I went to Shanghai for a visit in 2009. When I arrived at the hotel… I saw a taxi driver pissing at a public toilet… not inside it… on the outside. There was no charge to use this bathroom. Indeed… a lot of you are truly monkeys.

          • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

            True. We are a culture of farmers with no class. A country that is mostly still undeveloped “3rd world” with some limited “developed” parts. I for one don’t know how it is for poor people in other 3rd world countries but I do know that in the US if you want to draw some parallels the only people that come up are those “low class” people that are commonly referred to as “trailer park trash.” But I don’t look down on them, and almost all of them are rich by definition being from “developed” countries. Many times more materialistically rich than a similar “class” in China. So I’m not sure which part that is disgusting to you, the class part or the Chinese part, probably both.

            All that is true. Chinese people really don’t know what they’re missing. I mean it’s mostly their fault. They don’t have anyone to blame but themselves. Oh one thing you are wrong about is I actually do have a lot of experience outside of China. LMAO. I do, really. And if I want to be a hater about it I will just say the US is awesome because they did the whole manifest destiny thing so now they have a lot of truly beautiful land. Fuckin the best bro. But where were we. YOu are trying to piss me off about us being monkeys. You know on this website yeah I do get really pissy sometimes but that’s because I’m depressed not because I give a shit about the superiority of Chinese culture. I don’t feel bad about it. Because I was born into this culture so there is a lot of things I like about it because of that, because I lived it, I know the intimidate details of my culture which I appreciate (for example I love my mom’s cooking). It’s like if you were born into latin culture, you live it, you are latin, of course you love your culture. Do I think my culture is superior? No I don’t. Is my culture shit in an absolute sense. If is the case so what I still love my culture. Also I’m atheist being called monkey is nothing. No it carries no negative connotations to me therefore I don’t care. BTW there is nothign wrong with pissing. Especially when you are drunk. but I know what you are talking about lol. Chinese people pissing, that could be quite a culture shock.

            Oh basically that’s exactly it. Culture-shock. You think we’re monkeys. Hey. So be it. I could care less. I think the Chinese people should be mature enough to not give a fuck about what other thinks. And I also think Naoko should be mature enough to handle someone calling him a faggot on the Internet (invented by the Americans; the best).

            As for my wife’s extra-curricular activities, well if I can’t satisfy her then that’d be 100% my fault. So another non issue. If you want to twist that into a cultural superiority issue, I don’t have a problem with it. A few white dudes (or black dudes) fucking Chinese chicks is of no concern to me. Mao Zedong said women holds up half the sky bro. I love women. They are human beings with rights. So no I don’t have problems with it.Basically…. I’m not mad. U mad! Of course I don’t deny there are sexism issues, like everywhere else. But I do know that the male/female imbalance is putting pressure on this issue. Also at least in the cities women in China have a lot of rights. I would even say probably no where near as bad as Japan is probably. Now you may say so why are you alive then? Didn’t you mom abort a girl for you to exist? No. My mom is an educated women with no male/female preferences like that. I’m here purely by chance.

            Naoko shut the fuck up.

          • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

            Well that’s the thing. The developed world love us right now for making cheap shit.

          • Naoko

            I hope you weren’t crying when you wrote this… please don’t let my words hurt you. You are a man of China… be proud of your banana culture. As far as shutting up… that kind of primary school talk will only fall on deaf ears.

            So live it up in China… and swing from tree to tree. In other words… better you than me.

          • s4v

            totally feel you capt. wed.
            you are cool guy and your opinion on China is right on spot.

            all countries have their shit/fucked up part of society. china is no different. what matters is that you see it, the entire picture.

            and naoko you are just a hater.

  • http://www.accessfbchina.com/ Rod

    Seems pretty lowly to come back after the fact and try to squeeze money out of them. What else is new.

    • DRaY

      In the states someone would have filled a civil suit and we would both get our lawyers and start with mediation and a court case if needed. at the end of the day even if no one wins, both families would have shelled out about $2K each. Atleast the China alternative was mildy entertaining for me on a Friday morning. haha China has its eccentricities, learn to live with it, all large countries have fucked up problems.

  • donscarletti

    Kind of justifying Yao Jiaxin’s actions now aren’t they? How could he have known he had hit a girl from this kind of family?

    • staylost

      This blows my mind. I can see how one can criticize the girl’s family. I can’t see at all how that is related to stabbing someone to death or has any relevance in justification.

      Just because a family is greedy, that doesn’t justify murdering them.

  • URMOMM

    the Father should give the money to the family

    serious no matter how they act in there pain,

    u can say 1 live for another

    but i feel the murders live was not worth the live of this Girl by far

    • Sunju

      The father did not kill the girl.

      • Rick in China

        Exactly. Also, the ridiculous thing here is – they wanted the money but they also wanted justice. They were offered money – presumably with the expectation they request leniency – and refused, because they demanded justice……they got it. Now the bitches have the nerve to go back after the son has been executed, and demand money from the father.

        The girl is the victim here. The son is the culprit, and justice (if you believe in capital punishment) was served. The father of the culprit did nothing wrong and should not be held accountable. The family of the girl who was the victim – they’re roaches.

  • Curren$y

    These niqqas should get stabbed as well!
    SEE THESE ROCKS

  • typingfromwork

    Adding even more woe to an already sorrowful story- this is fucked up. Whenever money is concerned people will abandon all dignity to get it.

    You already had your justice. You already refused the money. Let it go.

  • Tony

    Does China have any mandatory liability car insurance requirements? If not, it should seriously consider it.

  • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

    It’s called a FAMILY FEUD.

  • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feud

    fuck these fuckers in the article though. Why don’t they just really kill off each other so I do n’t have to read their bullshit on this shitty website.

    • SuperHappyCow

      amerikkkunts

  • SuperHappyCow

    Who took these pictures? Rofl. So many of them look staged because the pictures are so well timed.

    • http://candosino.wordpress.com terroir

      Must have been a sunny day with a fast camera. this thing is so dirty that I can’t imagine anyone staging it.

      But then: I’m thinking with logic.

      • Tengu

        Leave logic on the sofa where it belongs…you need a ginger infusion!

        Nio I’m not offering!

  • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

    What do you Chinasfucker think about this

    http://www.truth-out.org/chinese-fascisms-global-consequences/1327694358

    I may just be an idiot but I never was brainwashed by the Chinese system okay but I feel there is a lot of parallels can be drawn with Amerikka. (You may say but you parents; well shit do I believe in the superiority of the Chinese people? No. Do I believe in China has a right to take over it’s neighbors? No. And I actually think Tibet has a right to self determination.)

    A lot of things in Amerikkka is hidden beneath the surface due to all the PCness. This is just more self righteous bullshit from a liberal. Fascism it’s what’s for dinner. Look out from your ivory tower once in awhile you fuck.

    P.S I’m in Beijing right now meet me somewhere we will fight this shit out.

    • staylost

      I agree. The heart of American and Chinese culture are astonishingly similar.
      Very ignorant, very patriotic, very giving, relatively hard-working, not wanting to conquer the world, but wanting to be left alone.

      However, fascism? I don’t really see it in either country as a mainstream attitude or culture.

      Also, my guess is that most of us on this site have long left our ivory towers.

      I’m sorry to hear you are in Beijing. I hope your lungs can forgive you someday. You could come to Hangzhou… but I don’t like to fight Chinese style. A mob beating or dancing around like a peacock…

  • fx

    i thought i would see the news about ‘China investigates Chongqing policeman Wang Lijun’ on here bit disappointed

    • Rick in China

      Quick way to get ‘harmonized’. They’re in a mad dash to delete all the posts discussing it on things like Weibo.

  • jeffli

    Its sad, very sad that this family uses a members death to extort money like that,

    Another indicator that Chinas culture is not well developed and average education level is very kow

    • Rick in China

      It isn’t extortion. They refused the money as a means of accepting a lenient sentence, and demanded the guy gets strict punishment – which meant he was executed. The point here is they wanted their cake and eat it too – after he was executed, THEN they demand the money they previously refused. The father was only trying to buy lenience for his son’s crime – the family had the gall to both demand execution, and demand the ‘lenience purchase’.

      The victim is the girl. Feel very bad for her. The 2nd closest to a ‘victim’ here is the murderer’s father. He did nothing wrong but has had to sacrifice and be put in difficult positions as a result of his son’s action, and the assholes in this story are: the murderer, obviously, and the family of the victim.

  • staylost

    The problem here is that money is seen as relevant in criminal law.
    It doesn’t matter if the family forgives the murderer and becomes his pal, for money or for mercy. The government would still need to apply its correct punishment for people that think that life is only worth a few thousand RMB.

  • E Puff

    they deserve compensation for all the lost wages the deceased young woman cannot bring into the family. In addition to the moral reasonings for forcing this man’s death. He did not deserve to be spared as he might have killed someone else later and try to buy his way out of that. Evil murderous people should not be in the world to harm others. Including the executioners who do away with them.

    • nereis

      Then they can sue it from the estate of the deceased, from which I gather there is nothing now.

    • mr. weiner

      Um, so you think evil murderers don’t belong in this world, but the people whose job it is to effeciently [humanly] get rid of the murderers don’t either? I don’t mean to knit pick, but I think you haven’t really thought this through.

      • E Puff

        in some places, three people push a button and none of them know which one’s push actually caused the prisoner’s death.

        • mr. weiner

          ?Oh , that’s o.k then.
          How is the book coming along. Any ideas?

        • Rick in China

          What he’s saying is, what you said makes no sense. “Kill the killers. Oh, and kill the killers who killed the killers. Oh, and kill the killers who killed the killer’s killers.” Oh…. and….

          wtf? Making it so “we don’t know which one killed them” doesn’t remove the fact they executed someone. The killer still exists. Basically what you’re saying is ignorance is bliss, in your case I’d say you’re likely a very blissful person.

          • banana man

            blissful person is an understatement in her case….someone who believes in the burning bush and talking snake and walking on water …hmmmm ! Thats the beauty of this religious folks and their way of thinking:

            “three people push a button and none of them know which one’s push actually caused the prisoner’s death”

            fucking double standard motherfuckers ! In fact that could be a chinese idea, it sounds more like a chinese “logic” then an american.

  • Foreign Devil

    What’s up with that police car? Looks like some kind of ride at Disney World.

  • david

    i dont know the whole case but if a woman was killed in hit and run. the driver needs to pay a large fine and a LENGTHY JAIL SENTENCE

    • GodsHammer

      He paid the ultimate sentence. And how does money help the family? When they got over their grief they decided that some money wouldn’t have been that bad either. Very poor taste. Karmic storm brewing…

    • mr. weiner

      Click on the fella’s name at the start of the story ” Yao Jiaxin” that will take you to the wiki page. ‘Tis a morbid tale.

  • Tengu

    Never trust an attorney in a “Members Only” jacket and a mock turtleneck…he looks like an extra from “Jersey Shore.”

    I you don’t see Italian shoes and tailoring find another attorney.

  • lxpatterson

    What I don’t understand is why he didnt’ run her over with the car a second time. In “civilized” north america, you would get no more than 10 years at worst for vehicular homicide or dangerous driving…the stabbing leaves no ambiguity about his intention.

    At least that’s what happens routinely do on this side of the pond since we North Americans are “advanced”.

  • KJS

    Capt. WED

    You’re an angry SOB. No one is safe from your wicked tongue – you take shots at anybody We should be friends.

  • banana man

    Yao Jiaxin aka “8-Stabs”, now how is that for a name ? :-)))

    typical chinese BS, nothing unusual. I experience such BS every week. You fire someone, pay them their salary out according to labour law, and they come back again and again asking for more money, even when they are fired during their probation period. Yelling outside the company, sit in the middle of the office floor, throw PC out of the window, threaten to kill his self, lay on the office desk yelling and crying for hours, refuse to leave the building, and occupying 3 more staff which must talk with them the whole day cause they suddenly demand ridiculous things.

    Thats typical china style, nothing unusual in this report, fighting while the cigarette is in their rotten mouths, lawyers which behave like savages, and suddenly asking for compensations publicly trying to let the other side loose face in front of cameras. What a BS !! This people show how the common chinese behave and act in public. Thats 95% of them. One really has to cherry pick to find someone out of the 5% who has the capacity to develop to an educated human being.

    • mr. weiner

      Coala Banana is that you? If not I want to know where you went to make clones of yourself. Damn those North Koreans. Does their depravity know no bounds?

      BTW. I’ve wanted to know for a long time, admit it ya little mongrel, You’re Belgian aren’t ya? Whoohoo! pedaphillia and chocolate jokes to follow :]

      • banana man

        its me my friend, i thought that banana man sounds more professional…:-)….

        North Korea ? not bad at all, was there twice ! interesting it was ! definitely much cleaner then china….

        Belgian ? Nope ! mooore southier and moooore eastier and you are getting closer:-)….the land of the barbarians, where the folks live which can’t be educated. The ones which one day treat you as a brother, pay you dinner, and the next day with no significant reason pass by to punish you and your family hongjian and CaptWed style…

        • mr. wiener

          Croatia?…..hmm I’ll have to make rapist jokes instead:P

  • http://www.mylaowailove.com 陶陶谈老外

    Yao Qingwei’s lawyer seems to be very persuasive.
    If in the court he also fights like that, his clients can be calm.

  • Tie Ridge

    Yes this is normal in the United States . You get the death pentalty and the family sues for money.

  • d cadman

    it’s a matter of choice , he had it. he killed someone knowing there would be a price to pay (ie his life). She did not . if all murders are forced to give back more then was taken i bet crime would go down.

  • Misaki

    The “child owes parents” idea leads to such strange situations, like having the option to settle criminal cases out of court by paying the parents. Of course it is the parents who are responsible for this being possible. Maybe it is time for China to create a social security system instead of parents being forced to rely on children in their old age. The “four grandparents, two parents, one child” pyramid-focus thing only applies to families with just one child, and many rural/migrant families are not like that.

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