Beijing Taxi Passenger Pricked by Hidden HIV Needle, Dumped

Beijing taxi passenger pricked by needle containing HIV.

From The Beijing News, NetEase, Sina, iFeng, QQ:

Needle Pricks Taxi Passenger, May Contain HIV

10 pm on Aug 21 in Beijing, Xu Tian (pseudonym) took a taxi, and was pricked by the needle of a syringe hidden in the magazine rack on the back of the front seat. He was sitting in the back seat, planning to cross his legs, “Just as I lifted my right leg, the car made a turn, and the moment my body leaned over, my leg was suddenly pricked a little above my right knee.”

He found a needle in the magazine rack on the back of the front seat and pulled out a used syringe, which contains some substance of light yellow color.

Taxi driver Gong said he had no idea where the syringe had come from.

The blood test results by Ditan Hospital showed Xu Tian negative of HIV, but it will take 3 more tests in 3 months to rule out the possibility of infection.

On the 22nd, Xu Tian arrived at the Haidian district Dongsheng police station near where the incident happened, hoping that police can contact the forensics center for him, to test the contents of the liquid inside the syringe. “But the police said this was considered accidental injury, that it doesn’t reach the requirements for opening a case, and they can’t have the forensics center test without a case,” Xu Tian said.

Xu Tian said, the blocking drugs he was taking had strong side effects, making him sick; he vomited as if he “was drunk”. And he has to suffer all this for 3 months.

But what made him feel worse was that his girlfriend who had been with him for 3 months broke up with him upon hearing this news, “I am 37 years old now, I was planning to take her home and let her meet my parents during the coming Spring Festival, and we were even planning to get married.”

Comments from NetEase:

内阁总理大臣李鸿章 [网易山东省济南市网友]:

This kind of thing is what needs to be seriously investigated. This kind of shit is even more disturbing of public order than bank robberies. If he really gets AIDS, then the victim may also develop a desire to get revenge on society… JC uncles, first set aside your bonuses and hurry and solve this case, okay?

网易加拿大网友:

There are too many perverse people in this society these days!! Although a lot of the responsibility lies on the taxi driver, he’s still a man willing to take responsibility!! Hope that passenger will be fine!!

网易四川省成都市网友:

Xu Tian takes a taxi to go out and is pricked by a needle, the nation’s capital is so great and powerful!

网易美国网友:

The girlfriend is the highlight of the story. Can’t have sex anymore…

wangzhen4303 [网易山东省淄博市张店区网友]:

May this person who left the needle have a horrific death.
If people left needles around like this, who would still dare to go out in public, afraid to even sit fearing needles in the seat cushions.

网易辽宁省手机网友:

An accident, won’t take the case, but if you don’t investigate how do you know it was an accident!! If this doesn’t cause a panic, then what will? Lives are already endangered!! Unbelievable!

舆论导向 [网易浙江省金华市网友]:

If it was about arresting prostitutes, the police would immediately open the case.

范冰冰李冰冰柳岩公用情夫 [网易河南省郑州市网友]:

Fuck, is there any place left in China where people can live without worries?

caowumaotama0 [网易香港网友]:

These days, there are too many people with dark hearts…

aragorn1998 [网易美国网友]:

…If it really is AIDS, his life is ruined, better not be reincarnated in China in the next life.

The Needle Found In the Taxi

From People.com.cn:

Beijing Police Actively Investigating “AIDS Needle” Incident, Asks City Residents For Clues/Leads

On August 27, results of the unknown substance samples by both Center For Disease Control And Prevention of the city and the district show positive for HIV-1.

The Beijing Public Security Bureau said via its official microblog @平安北京 that the police is now trying their best to investigate and they also call on citizens to provide useful clues. Insiders may call 110 to contact the police.

Comments from Sina Weibo :

济宁校园:

How can you even take precautions against such things?

度胜金:

Dear everybody in Beijing, please be careful.

miowo盖世宝宝:

In the future we’ll have to carefully observe every corner with a magnifying glass before taking a seat in public places.

爱奇艺迪凯特:

I remember there had been such news ever since a few years ago, but all of them were covered up as “rumors”.

我爱听广播999:

Check the surveillance footage.

詹盛旭:

Looks like underwear made of stainless steel is going to be the next best seller.

Jessi思:

Viruses probably can’t survive long in the open air, I reckon the passenger is going to be alright. Best wishes.

渤渤牛:

Is this case that complicated? Isn’t it just some random HIV infected drug addict who shot up in the taxi, and left the needle there? Investigate my ass.

dido9146:

Looks like I’ll have to learn how to drive a car…

峻叔大:

Let me imagine for a moment: What if it turned out that the criminal is a car dealer whose business went drastically down because of the Purchasing Limits on Cars in Beijing and he came up with this scheme to compel the ordinary common people to go buy their own cars?! Because wouldn’t people who plan revenge on society choose buses where there are more people, so that they could make the horror even bigger?

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  • Middle Kingdum

    SOFA safer than Beijing taxi!

    • Snicker

      Didn’t check before you sat down, did you!

    • Average Zhou

      you should have said “infected HIV needles hiden in the cushions of my fucking sofa, not safe anywhere!!!”

  • Poltergeist

    Sofa! Can it be?

    • Poltergeist

      Of course it couldn’t be. Just got off my Heroin trip :-(

  • B*tches, Leave

    I believe that we all will get hurt on the streets here.
    The level of incompetence and ignorance in China just amazes me more and more.

  • Snicker

    “We have determined that the duration of survival of HIV-1 in syringes typically used by injectors of illicit drugs can exceed 6 weeks.” D’oh. http://cig.salk.edu/extra_html/meds_iv_drug_facts.htm

    Get rid of those drug-taking foreigners. Chase them out! And all taxis should be Hongqi, WTF with this HIV-ridden Hyundai?

    • Snicker

      Anyway, AIDS is a foreigner disease. That guy has nothing to worry about, and his gf knows it – she was just looking for an excuse. 37 and not married! Mistake!

      • Are you for real? The odds are greater that you’ll naturally develop that new Chinese aids, no sex required, before you’ll ever catch the traditional kind from a foreigner.

      • Dr SUN

        China has a Huge HIV / Aids problem mostly from dirty needles ( injecting drugs) the needles are domestic not foreign.

        The drugs often are foreign, from Burma, Loas, Cambodia, the “Golden Triangle)
        Sex related HIV transmission is almost entirely Chinese to Chinese ( via their use of Chinese/ Asian prostitutes)

        So sadly Snicker the USA, Britain etc didn’t invent AIDS and they didn’t/ don’t spread it in China, the Chinese do.

        • Joe

          Actually AIDS was almost certainly developed by a western pharmaceutical company, probably Merck. It was intentionally spread through tainted vaccines to gay men in New York. Eugenics in the west is still alive and well. it has merely gone underground and masquerades today as “sustainable development”. Westerners are masters at manipulation/marketing. Sustainable development is such a friendly sounding euphemism. Needless to say, gays are not considered sustainable.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            I too believe aids is a manmade disease. there was an urban myth some years ago that some african scientist found the cure for AIDS, traveled to the United States to alert the government and some other scientists and was executed.

          • Joe

            Also, all nonwhites are considered unsustainable as well. SARS was a bioweapon designed to exterminate East Asians. The black population in the U.S. was suppressed successfully after the CIA introduced crack into their communities.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Joe, a lot of people are still unaware of Cointelpro. It’s a good subject for people who want to look it up, don’t believe in government conspiracies. America’s government can be really shifty when it comes to destroying groups of people. USA will never be as obvious as Hitler because they need the other countries to follow our example.

            I try not to think too much about conspiracies though, these things have a way of coming to you when you dredge them up.

      • Getrealson

        Troll! If not a colossal Fuckwit!

  • Glowndark

    according to this dude doc, HIV (in syringe) will only live for a few minute outside of human body.
    http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Q8895.html?ic=2003
    i think that beijinger will be just fine, unless it get injected the whole dose in that syringe.

  • Scott

    I am waiting to see how long the reasonable, humorous, and clever quoted Chinese comments – ten in all – will be exceeded in number and stupidity by those following.

    • Mao Ze Shenme Dong Dong

      Scott no friends! Ner ner ni ner ner!

      *Blows a raspberry then chucks a brown eye*

      • mr. wiener

        Is that ‘strine I hear?

        • jeffli

          Oi! thats a bit ‘ows ya father!
          I’m off to the ‘rub and tub’ to have a few ‘shag and sheers’

          The ‘kitchen knife’ ‘ll be waiting for me so I better hit the ‘frog and toad’

          where did I leave teh ‘bees knees’ for the ‘Kingswood’ then?
          struth! corr blimey guv, stone the crows, if he didn’t throw a wobbler! You want some ‘dead horse’ on those chips?

          Yeh mate,….yeh…Hooroo then cobber.

          Dad! I dug a hole! its filling up with water!

          • Dr SUN

            Well after all that, I’m off for a rub down with a damp edition of the Radio Times.

    • Getrealson

      Scotty!

      What does a Beijing taxi and China-smack have in common?

      Full of annoying little pricks! BOOM-BOOM-TSSSHHH!

      • grovesman

        You get 1 internets.

        Bump

  • Rick in China

    I like how it becomes a HUGE news idea as soon as he mentions “AIDS needle” without any reason to believe it contains or transmitted HIV. I wouldn’t be surprised if he planted a needle himself hoping to get some compensation for all of his distress.

    • Rick

      1. Plant infected needle.
      2. Perpetrator stays putt.
      3. Blackmail immediately ensues e.g. “I have the retrovirals if you give me X yuan.”
      4. Needle contains utterly nothing.

      Sheesh…

  • Mrnightcat

    Whilst the risk is there, it’s a mistake to place all concern on HIV when Hepatitis B and C infection should be more concerning possibilities. Chill out and take a HIV test in three months, for now get bloodwork done for more common infections.

    • donscarletti

      If you have just been pricked with an HIV full syringe, pumping yourself full of antiretrovirals now is reasonably likely to prevent you from getting HIV. Giving yourself all the medication in the world cannot cure it after 3 months of incubation.

      Getting HepB as an adult will make you sick as a dog for a couple of weeks and it will never happen to you again. That said, I had my Twinrix before coming to China, stung like a wasp and cost a fortune (not covered by government healthcare) but no reason to believe it’s not worth it.

      HepC is nasty, but still preferable to HIV.

      • Don Scarletti… Given that “IndoBOOM” has now been activated, I sure as hell know that there are shedloads of Hep B carriers in Indonesia. What the figures are like in China I don’t know. But any whoremonger should seriously consider the vac (if not done) or booster (if last done 10+ years ago). However, ToEFL gentlemen are delightful cuddly men who do not have to use whores…

        • donscarletti

          The numbers are staggering, 10% are carriers of Hep B, even more in remote areas. Wear rubber, even with the vaccine, even with women who consider abortion to a valid method of contraception, even when those sold in local store feel uncomfortable with your girth and most brands don’t fit your length, just put it on every time. Seriously.

          You know, William the Conqueror probably didn’t find chain-mail comfortable and Caesar probably didn’t like the Lorica, but there will be many battles to fight and your little general need only be defeated once to ruin the campaign.

  • MrT

    Typical Chinese woman.

  • lonetrey

    Wow. If the girlfriend left him because of this incident, I’d like to kick her ass. For playing with this guy like that, leaving due to having the mere possiblity of HIV.

    If not, perhaps they just had a fight and things didn’t work out. Idk.

    I remember hearing about cases like this in health class, high/middle school. Kids asked the teacher about HIV needles sticking someone in the movie theaters when they sat down and came with a sign “You’ve been infected with AIDS/HIV” or some bullshit like that. The teacher calmed the class down and told that it’s highly unlikely for it to be transmitted that way.

    • linette

      Needle stick you still need to go the the hospital. They will put you on Prophylaxis with combination antiretroviral therapy for like a month when tested positive. Then you will have to come back for retest like a month then more tests 3 months so on. It’s annoying.

      • Mao Ze Shenme Dong Dong

        At least he would save money on not needing condoms anymore.

        • Dr SUN

          Why’s that ?

          My guess is anti- virals for the rest of your life cost more than condoms any way.

        • They say people infected with HIV become very horny, as the body is convinced to go spreading the virus. The virus is after all a living organism. How much barebacking is occurring in CN? If it’s anything like VN, a lot.

          • Chris

            Who says that? The same doctors that said women’s body rejects legitimate rape? Non sense.

      • Middle Kingdum

        Hmmm . .. Linnette seems to know an awful lot about treatment for being stuck with AIDS needle . .

      • Chris

        If you test positive, no point in prophylaxis anymore. That being said, man, had a friend take HAART for splash injury. He puked his guts out after just a week, and couldn’t take it anymore.

    • Rod

      Haha. I remember those rumours too. I saw this story, and at first though…”Wow, so it was true!”. Then I realized that no one is really sure if the needle had HIV in it.

  • Getrealson

    This whole story smells of bullshit! Something you’d read in a tabloid paper/magazine – very cliche! If it is true, take an AIDS test in three months and find a woman who’s not a CUNT!

    • Rick in China

      I looked again at the story and photo – and I think it’s bullshit too. If the taxi turned right and he was lifting his leg, how much of a hard core right turn was it that his knee dug that far into the front seat and into a needle – if there was a ‘hidden needle’ in the pocket infront, wouldn’t it have been facing up/down? how high is the pocket, seems he’d have to have a perfect circumstance and an extremely hard right turn to manage to get a needle to stick through the pocket and into a spot above his knee rather than into say, the tip of his knee if it ‘bumped’ the pocket. Reenactment I say! Where’s Taiwan media when we need them.

      • linette

        It’s very easy to get stuck by a needle. It’s quite sharp. If you throw a needle at someone, they can get stuck.

        • Rick in China

          Obviously, linette – but physics matters. Where and how someone gets stuck is determined by angles and force. Where he got stuck – from a taxi pocket, which rests flat against a front seat – seems a little bit like an extreme circumstance in which the taxi must have swerved a very hard right, enough to throw his body against the front right seat and put his knee deep into the back seat while coming up at the same time. He would have had to be, 2 inches? or more into the front seat’s back at the exact time as he was quickly bringing his leg over to cross them according to his story.

          The needle, he claims, was in the back pocket. It must have been pointing downward, flat against the back seat. This would put it at a slightly \ angle, away from his knee due to the front seat leaning back a little. His knees must have been against the seat or the taxi must have been able to swerve such a hard right it threw his body forward as well. I’m sure there are hypothesis explaining how this could happen, I’m just saying I doubt it as likely as he is a 37 year old failure who figured he’d try to get some compensation and sensationalize a story for internet fame.

    • Getrealson

      And if your Ex comes back – FUCK her!

  • Jeff

    Is there a link to the pic of his former girlfriend?

  • Dr SUN

    The HIV dies in less than 5 minutes exposed to air, however who knows what was in the syringe and if any of it got injected.

    PS , nice girlfriend !

  • Bono the tax dodger

    I’m not particularly tall but I’ve never tried to cross my legs in the back of a car. There isn’t much space. Think this story belongs in the Sunday Sport!

  • Cleo

    Is this a test run of Japanese germ warfare?

    They’ve been openly torturing the Koreans outside of Western media coverage but they aren’t open with us. Korea is like their date rape victim or rape victim locked down in their cellar for years but China is the ultimate kill and Japan needs to fly under the radar.

    Hmm, I’m sure some people wouldn’t leave even if you were in a wheelchair like Stephen Hawking or thrown down a well thanks to a twincest freakshow and your hair turns white while someone is waiting for you up top. (I never understood why The Bride with White Hair was such a popular HK film – it looked ghastly and screeching to me.)

    • Dr SUN

      ROFL

      WTF so funny

    • mr. wiener

      Read Cleo’s post……….My brain is full of fuck.
      Cleo’s post are truely like the vid from the well. Read at your own risk.

      • linette

        hahaha..it’s a conspiracy of the japanese. A germ warfare HIV needles.

  • White Guy in America

    The two places you are at greatest risk to get stuck with a dirty needle are at the Beach and in a Hospital. Also in your food on a airplane as happened recently.

    • Dr SUN

      What beach do you go to and where do you eat ? oO

      • Rick in China

        Jersey Shore, apparently

  • Ryo

    Did any of them think to test the shit in the syringe?

    • Dr SUN

      The police refused to send it for testing , they could see not case (sorry money in it for them)

      • Ryo

        You’d think the victim would gladly pay the hospital for such tests. But I guess saving that few hundred bucks is more important then finding out if you have HIV or some other serious shit.

  • The Enlightened One

    LoL… What a bitch…

    Way to stand by your man!

    Story sounds like crap anyways… but who knows in China… any retarded plot turns somehow into reality…

  • with finger nails that dirty ,he should rather be worried about other illnesses than Hiv.

    • Rick in China

      Or it’s possible that his girlfriend left him because he’s a 37 year old street sweeper, not because he was potentially infected with HIV – as a 5 yuan prostitute she probably gave it to him long ago.

      • mr. wiener

        You can get prostitutes in China for only 5 yuan!!?!

        • The Enlightened One

          Sure can, they just come with HIV!

        • linette

          Wiener, what are you talking about?

          Where I live you can get prostitutes for free. You don’t have to pay at all.

          • The Enlightened One

            LoL Linette,

            You are setting yourself up for a lot of jokes there…

            Don’t make it too easy =P

          • Dr SUN

            Slamming door…….. screeching tyres.

            Knock… Knock !!!

            Linette it’s me I’m here for my freebie

          • The Enlightened One

            Yeah, so I will just swing on by after work. So what time are you FREE? lol.

          • The Enlightened One

            Is it like happy hour?

          • Linette I think this “free prostitute” thing is probably slapper Caucasian females making love to US Marines in nightclub washrooms. This is a trans-Atlantic thing. The only exception to this rule is Nelson’s pub in Sembawang, Singapore. Do elaborate…

          • mr. wiener

            “Free prostitute” is a little like murdering someone to death.

        • Rick in China

          There was some story about 5 yuan prozzies, so I thought it a suitable response :D

          • linette

            Go to western countries. You will find tons of women sleeping for free at the bars. So many of them. They will sleep with you even they have husbands or boyfriends. They won’t ask you for apple three piece set.
            It’s happy hour for you men every night Monday to Sunday. Come and swing by. No problem.

          • Dr SUN

            First it was a condo, now it’s apple 3 piece as well, this is a kinda expensive concept of free you have Linette.

          • linette

            ……condo, now it’s apple 3 piece as well………

            I’ve never ask any man for condo or apple 3 piece set. By the time I do ask he will be my husband and the father of my child already. Is it too much for a wife to ask her own husband for those things?

          • if chinese women weren’t such whores. chinese guys wouldn’t have ended getting trapped by deceptive white succubus :(
            http://www.centurychina.com/plaboard/

          • Kukuku

            @linette: Yes it is too much. The price of those things relative to the average Chinese income is absolutely unreasonable and any woman who will put this kind of burden on her husband does not deserve that man’s companionship.

            The sex better be extremely good because that’s pretty much the only thing Chinese wife seem to be able to give in return for all their materialistic demands. A Chinese man would be better off single and paying prostitutes when he wants sex.

          • kukuku That’s quite a toughie. But also women from PH are renowned for expecting the buying of land and supporting of relatives. Surely a farmer’s daughter from 1000km squared of rice paddy and potato fields in E Thailand who exports to SG and speaks English, or a single rich Singaporean woman, are better catches than CN? I know and have had many CN women interested in me. I fully concur with what you are saying dude. The minute their English is sufficient, they think they are a remarkable commodity; as if SG, HK and diaspora had never existed.

          • linette

            Yes it is too much. The price of those things relative to the average Chinese income is absolutely unreasonable and any woman who will put this k…………………

            What are you talking about? Are you saying Chinese men can’t provide basic needs like home, food, and education for his child and wife? We are not talking about mansion. Just simple living quarters in some regular neighborhood. A real man would not expect his wife and child to go “homeless and starving” raising his family. My father is not rich but he is a real man.

            http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/housing/story/2012-04-03/us-homes-lure-chinese-buyers/53977638/1

          • k

            Linette, I don’t think western women sleep with men at bars any more so then Chinese women probably do. Women are typically conservative when it comes to sleeping with a strange man, which is why men try so, so hard and often fail to get “some”. Sure, there are always “those” women, the ones who get drunk and have low self esteem or bad judgement and have many “one nighters” but most do not. I’m a young western female and have a husband and I can honestly say I do not and have never went to a bar every night of the week, sleeping with strange men. I mean come on, most western women I know have some level of decency standard that is usually very high, just like Chinese women.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Linette, by saying that chinese men cannot provide for their wives or families is just another way that some of these guys on try to emasculate them. I find that chinese men on the whole, are more loyal to their wives and more committed to their families than western men in western societies who have an exceptionally high divorce rate. China’s divorce rate is comparatively low, an obvious sign that these men are more committing to their families than so many men in western societies.

          • Rick in China

            @Linette
            You said earlier, about the “3 piece set”, “Is it too much for a wife to ask her own husband for those things?”

            Then you said, “A real man would not expect his wife and child to go “homeless and starving” raising his family.”

            Which one is it. Does not having an apple “3 piece set” equal starving and homeless? You’re, once again, contradicting yourself and all over the place. Read what you write before you respond imo or you just look foolish and scatterbrained.

          • linette

            nanny, I feel the same way. Just look at my father, uncle, my brother, and my other chinese guy friends. They are not rich but they are real men. They would not allow their women and child starved and homeless. It’s unacceptable to them. If you walk into those ivy league school in USA there are many Chinese guys. It’s much more easy to find professional chinese guys compare to other race. My brother and his friends all graduated from ivy league school. They are all professionals in suits and tie. They get snatched up by asian or nonasian girls really quick before they even graduated. There are not enough professional guys going around for all the professional girls in major cities. :(

          • Linette… America is a big place. The population density is simply not the same as the EU. Have you tried Texas and maybe Dallas? Maybe there’s not the freedom to move between cities like a woman can do in Europe? (Try Amsterdam maybe or Frankfurt…)

          • linette

            k, There are whores and good women in every countries. I am not saying only western countries have whores. Wiener said you can pay 5yuan for chinese prostitute, so I said you can get it for free where I live in USA. That’s all.

          • linette

            richardnorth
            no no no, I like where I am. The only other place I will move to is back to Hong kong. I can’t live anywhere else. I am too used to big cities fast paced 24/7 lifestyle. ;)

            I am in no hurry…except my mom keeps bothering me. lol.

            Who knows.. Maybe eventually I will just decide not get married and practice prostitution to get sex from men. I want to be paid for it you know. hahahahahhaha…..lol.

          • mr. wiener

            Linette.
            Sorry to quibble over words, A “whore” could be a working girl, or a lady of easy virtue ,whereas a “prostitute” by definition is a person selling sex for money. Soooo you can’t have a “free prostitute” unless they are perhaps handing out free samples in order to drum up some trade.
            What time was happy hour again?

          • Nanny Hiccups

            @linette, I do find that there is an unfair distortion on how chinese men look and behave coming from some of the foreigners who visit Chinasmack. Now, I have my grudges for the way some of the chinese men act when it comes to race, but it is something I feel I should overlook if I’m going to be an honest person. They are not, in my estimation, What foreigners make them out to be… which is effeminate, emasculated, poor husbands who are dirty.

            These western guys are in COMPETITION with chinese guys for Chinese women so they are going to depict the competition in an an unflattering manner to their advantage. The chinese women who won’t date them are “whores”. The ones who do date them are also “whores” in their eyes.

            Westerners are masters of manipulation, deception and slander. I am hip to their ways.

          • linette

            Rick in China

            It’s more like So what if I ask my own husband to buy me
            “3 piece set”, “Is it too much for a wife to ask her own husband for those things?”

            I don’t need 3 piece set and I doubt I will really ask my future husband to buy it for me okay.

          • mr. wiener

            “Westerners are masters of manipulation, deception and slander. I am hip to their ways.”
            Generalize much? You’ll find sneaky buggers in every culture. And I’m curious….If, as you say, westerners are all masters of manipulation, deception , slander and the like what does that make you? You are not a Martian after all.

          • linette

            mr. wiener..a whore is a whore. To me a whore = prostitute. One gets paid the other one don’t.

            I often wonder if you are not going to respect yourself and sleep around with many men..why not just get pay for it. If you look like cindy crawford you charge them a high price. If you look like rosie o’donnell you charge them a low price. Understand as you age your price will be lower. You can pick and choose your clients. A girl should never provide free sex to any man other than her fiance or husband. I think this should be a universal rule for all women. You don’t need to go to ivy league university to learn that.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Westerner is really just a polite word. I do not belong to this group of westerners, actually. Yes, people in every country or culture slander other people, but none have the media output of western society or the ability to do as much damage.

          • Poltergeist

            Nanny Hiccups wrote:
            “They are not, in my estimation, What foreigners make them out to be… which is effeminate, emasculated, poor husbands who are dirty.

            These western guys are in COMPETITION with chinese guys for Chinese women so they are going to depict the competition in an an unflattering manner to their advantage. The chinese women who won’t date them are “whores”. The ones who do date them are also “whores” in their eyes.”

            I am sorry Nanny. I am following Chinasmack for quite a long time already and I often come across your comments which are, in my eyes 2 things: 1. childish and 2. a result of cluelessness

            You have never been to China it seems. Plus, you seem to have a problem with “Westerners”. None of my business. But the stuff you write here so often is just so completely wrong and a result of having no clue what’s going on here, it just hurts.

            Just to make it clear first: I am married, in no competition to any Chinese guy when it comes to girls, nor do I regard Chinese girls that don’t date me as “whores” (lol, I date nobody) nor do I think Chinese guys are “effeminate, emasculated, poor husbands who are dirty” (as you put it).

            On the other hand, I am totally sick to always read how dirty we Western guys are, playing, cheating the girls, not caring the families and anyways, when the wife is too old, we simply divorce to get us a young, unexperienced chick.

            Let me check. Not a single friend I have here in Shanghai fits that stereotype. I am not saying that it doesn’t exist. Maybe even proportianally more often than somewhere else. But what I find hilarious is that you seem to believe that the Chinese guy, in general is caring and the dream husband, as I read out of your description.

            Have you ever thought about that a lot of marriages here (as in the West) are just a social status that is pressed on them through history, culture, society and family? Many girls and boys marry in the age of 23 not because they found the “love of their life” but because families pushed them to “finally get married”. After that is done and having figured out that often, it’s not the perfect match, yes, many Chinese guys go to prostitutes or have lovers (damn, there is a whole industry for this here) while the wife knows about this. Why? Losing face in a divorce is a pressure for the locals here that YOU, Nanny Hiccups, seem to have ZERO idea about. But of course it’s cool to talk about stuff online without a clue beacuse “Hey, what harm done?”. If you had any idea how your statements in other threads where you talk about how you meet your tuesday dude and get his money, make you look like, well prostitute…

            And you might be interested in searching “China love links” on google. Start a search for girls between the age of 23-33 with the status “divorced”. You will be surprised by the numbers. Also, please pay attention to how many of those have a kid already. But be careful, you might be reminded of yourself, because I think you perfectly fit the search criteria I just mentioned. Probably you got a white ex-husband and now are online for your revenge on bad white dudes?

            Grow up!

          • tai wai

            I am sorry Nanny. I am following Chinasmack for quite a long time already and I often come across your comments which are, in my eyes 2 things: 1. childish and 2. a result of cluelessness

            “I’m just trolling lol”

            * continues spouting nonsense*

            Anyway, her opinion of men does seem to be ridiculously low, but I guess this place needs some misandry to help counter-balance the misogyny.

            Actually, I’m beginning to think that most people on this board just hate everyone else, period.

          • Brett Hunan

            Everytime I read these linette+Nanny Hiccup threads… I never had a daydream about murder before these two became buddies…

          • linette

            I never had a daydream about murder before these two became buddies…

            oh what do you know. You know nothing. You don’t have a clue about living and struggling to survive in big cities.

          • linette

            …… But also women from PH are renowned for expecting the buying of land and supporting of relatives…….

            richardnorth, my parents don’t need my support. They have their own property and jobs. But I will be there for them whenever they are sick. I will never be too far from my mom and dad. We are family. :)

          • Brett Hunan

            Linette Im not sure you understood my post. I dont know why you are talking about “struggling” and “big city”. I was referring to your instigating NH to make the absurd posts that she does. It blows my mind.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            ah Brett, she’s not instigating me. I think those posts are funny. You guys have not learned to discern whether I am trolling or not, even after all the outlandish things I have said lol

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Ah, Poltergeist… allow me address you point by point sir!

            You:
            Just to make it clear first: I am married, in no competition to any Chinese guy when it comes to girls, nor do I regard Chinese girls that don’t date me as “whores” (lol, I date nobody) nor do I think Chinese guys are “effeminate, emasculated, poor husbands who are dirty” (as you put it).

            I understand that you have never said those things. I am referring to the ones that do. They make said comments regularly on Chinasmack. That is only what I am referring to. And yes, many of these guys ARE in competition with Chinese men for the women, and regularly boast that their phalluses are exponetionally larger than that of the chinese male.

            You:
            On the other hand, I am totally sick to always read how dirty we Western guys are, playing, cheating the girls, not caring the families and anyways, when the wife is too old, we simply divorce to get us a young, unexperienced chick.

            But that is exactly what Western guys do, at least here in America. They are always otu for someone younger and prettier, This of course, depends on his social standing and income. Most regular guys are content with their current spouses, having resigned themselves to the realizing they can’t do any better. Of course there are the guys who love their wives. My point is that, western guys act like they are saints compared to Chinese ones.

            But what I find hilarious is that you seem to believe that the Chinese guy, in general is caring and the dream husband, as I read out of your description.

            Actually, I do not believe Chinese guys are caring and a dream husband. I believe they are small minded, nationalist, racist little twerps whom I have zero respect for. I take great care to avoid talking to them on Chinasmack.

            Have you ever thought about that a lot of marriages here (as in the West) are just a social status that is pressed on them through history, culture, society and family?

            Um no. Most families would be upset that their children have married so young. This is not the 1800s.

            Many girls and boys marry in the age of 23 not because they found the “love of their life” but because families pushed them to “finally get married”.

            Absolutely wrong. NEver heard of such a stupid thing. Young people are still in college at this age.

            Probably you got a white ex-husband and now are online for your revenge on bad white dudes?

            Unsubstantiated.

          • Brett Hunan

            NH Id be careful of trolling too much if I were you. The site could ban you if you keep it up and keep admitting it… then again, they’ll probably say its harmless or some shit.

          • linette

            Brett Hunan
            I don’t understand what you mean by instigating. Most of my posts are jus replies to people here making absurd remarks about Chinese people. It’s like they say chinese girls are whores and I say you can find whores in every race. All chinese guys are this and that and I say not the chinese guys that I know. Not my father or my brother or the C male friends.

            Nanny usually just say something like she agreed with me. That’s all.
            You really think nanny is a slut sleeping around with men for money? A woman worked so hard her whole life raising 3 kids on her own? Think again.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Thanks Brett. But I don’t think I’ll get banned because I actually contribute to the topic, stirring some good discussions. I provide many valid insights as well. I admit, I do think it’s a little funny when the guys get pissed off lol especially when they are so misogynst themselves. I thought it time they get their just desserts.

          • Poltergeist

            Nanny Hiccups

            I wrote: “Many girls and boys marry in the age of 23 not because they found the “love of their life” but because families pushed them to “finally get married”.”

            To which you replied:

            “Absolutely wrong. NEver heard of such a stupid thing. Young people are still in college at this age.”

            This just proves that you have absolutely no clue about what you are talking about when it comes to China and Chinese culture. Not everybody in China is marrying at that age, true, especially when they are studying. But the pressure is there and still, especially in smaller cities, people marry THAT early because of family’s demand.

            Think of how many Chinese do study and how many DO NOT study. Chinese marry significantly earlier than Westerners due to the fact of pleasing their families. Wedding markets are even found every saturday/sunday in Shanghai. Posters of girls and boys with their CVs in the parks, where mothers try to find the right person to marry. Matchmaking at its finest.

  • Nanny Hiccups

    Men are foolish. Why would she stay with him now? I do feel for him though and his situation.

    • Fenqing basher

      hehehe,
      you seem quite desperate when it comes to men, guess no one wants to deal with your mude swings? Or why would you spend a Friday night in August posting on Chinasmack?

      well one good advice, Stop blaming others – your live sucks because of YOU!

      • Nanny Hiccups

        Me? desperate for a man? Actually I went dancing friday night and on saturday night i went bowling with my new bf. So sucks to be you. He might be my future husband if he plays his cards right lol

        • Tengu

          2 dates, one of them is “bowling”nand your talking “future husband” . Too bad they’re aren’t any good synonym for desperation, “Cave of Trophonius” is nice, but cumbersome. Sucks to have your life.

          • David.is.Dawei

            Tengu,
            You are such a chump. If you have nothing to add, write nothing at all.

        • Fenqing basher

          If he plays his cards right? ;-)
          You are really a spoiled little brat.
          But between you and me, i think he is smart enough, thus promising things to you that he never really meant (old trick btw), meaning he doesn’t give a rats arse and drops you soon for the next chick.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            I’m the prettiest girlfriend he’s ever had. I don’t think he’ll trade me for anyone lol. And we are going out this friday too. He’s really handsome. He looks like DB Woodside. Don’t think i am stupid enough to show him my spidery ways, I am cloyingly sweet to him. I know how to seduce and entice a man, I am an expert at that. We’re on a three month schedule. If he does what I want for three months, then we can get to the next level, if you know what I mean :o) Of course, he is completely unaware of my time frame. So he had better be good.

            Just remember, every man I have ever dated or been involved with were dumped by me. Not the other way around. I am always on the prowl for someone better. I know who butters my bread!

          • fenqing basher

            Nanny hiccup

            You think you are the prettiest thing he ever had, or better that is what he is telling you.
            On the other hand, even if you guys marry, you are going to fade, if he is smart his bank account will not.

            Thus he’s is going to attract competition, competition much younger than you, while you spend time in the spa to straighten out those wrinkles.
            I don’t say that’s a good thing, but considering the fact on how you are selecting your mate its a given fact. No real honest men would deal with a chick like you without considering revenge down the road.

            Good luck :-)

        • Fenqing basher

          I just came across one of your posts above:

          “China’s divorce rate is comparatively low, an obvious sign that these men are more committing to their families than so many men in western societies. ”

          Nanny Hiccup, you really have no freaking clue whats going on in China , do you? Well i will waste no time trying to explain that to you. But:

          Chinese women are attracted to western men because they are in general more polite, honest and true and of course better in bed.

          What makes things perfect for both sides is that a lot of foreigners are married to a ranting blitch in the west and finally are able to get a taste of true harmony by being together with a Chinese women (while the blitch in the west is wasting that tiny remainder of her youth by waiting for hubby to return home ;-)

          Sooooo, since you are so convinced about Chinese men, i highly recommend you come over here and enjoy ;-) LOL

          • tai wai

            married to a ranting blitch in the west and finally are able to get a taste of true harmony by being together with a Chinese women

            There’s some truth to this.

          • Kukuku

            The best girlfriends are young to middle-aged mothers. :)

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Chinese women are attracted to western men because they are in general more polite, honest and true and of course better in bed.
            How Puerile!
            Hahaha you just proved my point above how western men perceive themselves to be in competition with chinese men for chinese women lol You think you are more of a perfect match for women who are culturally suited for their own men.

            Chinese women like westerns because being with a foreigner gives them face, not dick! You have more earning potential. You live in a free society, and her offspring stand a better chance than being with someone in China, a communist country with questionable human rights.

            Do you think if a woman had the choice between marrying an extremely wealthy government official or businessman in China, or some average-guy westerner she wouldn’t choose the wealthy chinese man? Of course she would! It’s what you can give her, that she desires not necessarily anything else. She stands to benefit from that. Most western men are cute, of course. I live in the west. But that’s it.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Sooooo, since you are so convinced about Chinese men, i highly recommend you come over here and enjoy ;-) LOL

            heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell no.

    • mr. wiener

      hmmm….Your compassion on this one leaves a little to be desired. Boot is on the other foot?

      • Nanny Hiccups

        I said i feel sorry that it happened to him. But you certainly cannot blame the girlfriend for being afraid. i can see both sides unlike men who are so short sighted.

        • mr. wiener

          He hasn’t even been diagnosed with HIV yet and her arse is out the door…….That’s cold.
          The side I’m seeing is that if the roles were reversed there’d be people baying for his blood.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            i think he would do the same thing. i would be out too, unless i sincerely loved this person. i would take care of him for as long as he needed me. the article below the first two versions of the story says the needle was in fact, infected with AIDS.

            That’s really sad. but like i said, the woman is in protection mode.

          • Kukuku

            Don’t forget you’re asking Chinasmack’s cheap whore to show real compassion.

          • Where there are a critical mass of people of Chinese ethicity does this happen? The answer is no in Singapore – this has not happened in the twenty years I have followed events and lived there. There are cabs everywhere. There are loads of people with HIV in America and EU – I heard of one story like this – it must have been twenty years ago again. It looks and smells like utter crap to push the poorly funded and inadequately supported police (in terms of CSI) to their limits.

          • mr. wiener

            Kukuku that was uncalled for.
            Disagree if you like ,but keep the playground taunts to a minimum please.

          • Kukuku

            You’re right I’m sorry. I did not mean to call her cheap.

          • eattot

            kukuku:
            ur such a mfer….
            in your eyes all women are whores,unless they let u fuck for free.
            what a mfer…..

          • linette

            exactly, men like kukuku thinks if girl don’t let him fxck her for free, then she is a gold digger. So many men are like that. So sad. The only man I will be fxcked by is my potential husband. When I marry him, he will be the man I spend the rest of my life with. He gets all the free fxck he wants for life from me. daah….

          • Kukuku

            So we have two women admitting, one after the other, that money and materialistic considerations are the key to opening their legs.

            How honest of you.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            No money no honey… :o)

          • eattot

            kukuku:
            we all admit your a mfer, fuck off!
            plus: eithter a broke ass or Grandet,what a loser!

          • Nanny Hiccups

            @Weiner, thanks.

          • mr. wiener

            You are welcome, I like to keep things civilized even if the double standard you are applying to relationships is making my head spin.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            I’m trolling lol

    • Snicker

      Anyway, they were only together 3 months. He was getting pretty hot and heavy for a 3 month relationship. If I’m not mistaken, spring festival is still 5 or 6 months away. So basically, he met this girl on a website and they had met a couple of times at Haagen-Dasz “because he loves her” and now he complains that he planned to take her home 1/2 a year from now, but she dumped him?

      Did he even ask her if she wants to go home with him in 6 months? Seriously doubt it.

      Based on his hair-trigger marriage offer, she probably just doesn’t want to get mixed up with some desperate 37 year old who is so skinny he can roll is jeans up to his crotch…

      Seriously, a relationship of 3 months is still in probationary phase – what’s he complaining about?

  • eattot

    the cat:
    come out, i need you to do a small favor for me !!!!
    after u reply i give you my msn to talk about it.

    • Cat reporting for duty.

      • eattot

        my yahoo is whiteapple919, a funny help…

        • I sent you an email (I guess that’ll work?) as I don’t have Yahoo messenger.

        • Snicker

          “I’ll give you my msn!”
          “Here’s my yahoo!”
          “qq?”

          How romantic, they’ve both got qq…

          • QQ is nice by candlelight

          • Cat-man. I’m jealous even if no-one else is. Take care dude. Your efforts have been fruitful.

          • mr. wiener

            Eattot , beware of his barbed…..wit.

          • eattot

            go hell you two..
            everything is dirty in dirty men’s head.

          • whiskers you’re in…she feels mr w and mr north are entirely unwelcome – this means she is fertile – go fertilize dude

        • me a

          Hey eattot, where do you live? i’ll add your qq too

          • eattot

            china, could be anywhere.
            and you?
            but now i hope your in yun nan and your foreigner so that can help me…

          • me a

            nah, sorry but i live in the north. i do have a few freidns in kunming. what’s your problem?

          • eattot

            if your friends are young guys then ok, if old men then no need.
            you can add my qq,can not say it in public,others will laugh.

          • Snicker

            Don’t worry, we’re already laughing!

            So: you are in Lijiang with some friends, looking for some of this “what happens in Lijiang stays in Lijiang” romance…is this the kind of “funny help” you need? :-p

            Gosh…why did I travel to Lijiang with my girlfriend?

          • eattot

            go away, your so nosy, and definitly wrong!!!!!

          • me a

            come on!
            now, if you don’t say everyone will start assuming…and that’s gonna bring even more laughs

  • Justin

    Weird news in China just follows the law of probability. The more people you have, the more weird shit is going to occur, naturally. And given that there is a finite amount of news that people can absorb, then the weirdest crap is likely to be the most newsworthy and hence give people the impression that it is commonplace. I for one am not going to lose sleep about HIV needles in taxi cabs.

  • Justin

    Anyways, I’d also like to point out that of all the ways that one can get AIDS, this would have to be the least fun.

    • Justin, oh, Justin there is one other way… Lara Roxx and Darren James. This is in a place where they NEVER thought this shit would spread. If you’ve heard about it already I apologise for dredging old silt.

  • eattot

    my co-worker, she suffered the same thing in bus….
    was so cared, now a big ugly scar on her beautiful long leg……
    went to hospital,said no HIV,but……
    people are crazy….

    • eat tot That’s impossible. HIV simply doesn’t work like that. Onlyafter three months can you be safely told you’ve got HIV or not. This has been since the 1980s when they worked out you needed 90 days for the body to produce antibodies to attack what is a short-term NON-DEADLY virus but long-term DEADLY one. Tricky.

      • Nanny Hiccups

        maybe she found out after 90 days, Rich…

  • Wago

    never sitting in front seat in beijing taxi ever again…

    • Ryo

      I never sit in the front seat period with the way they drive and their shady cars. Just a fender bender may land the dash on your chest!

  • The Acidic Hasidic

    When i lived near 四惠 in beijing we were waiting outside a hair salon. All of a sudden a bloody needle came flying out of one of the upper windows (of an office building) and landed on the middle of the table. Hit nobody.

    Called the police they didnt care.

  • Expatty

    How long before people start blaming this incident on foreigners?

    • Dr SUN

      Already been done, Its a Japanese germ warfare thing.

  • Foreign Devil

    How do they know the needle contains AIDS? That’s just an assumption. His chances of being infected very very very small.. unless he actually pushed the plunger and they know for sure it has AIDS virus. WHy can’t they conclusively say he does not have AIDS after one blood test??

    There’s no need to investigate unless you have taxi surveillance camera. He picked up a druggy.. who probably shot up prior to or after getting into the cab. and just tossed the needle into the magazine compartment. Case closed.

    Oh and it is a great thing his girlfriend left him. She was a disloyal fickle cunt who would have left on the first sign of trouble anyways.

    • womo

      It’s called sensationalism in journalism. The article tries to make as big a hullaballo about the incident even though the bits of information they’re assuming might be wrong. Pretty much 80% of the stuff you read online will contain bullshit from dishonest journalism.

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