Hillary Clinton: ‘China Will Pay Price for Supporting Syria’

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton listens during a meeting of the "Friends of the Syrian People" at the MFA Conference Center July 6, 2012 in Paris, France. (Getty)

From NetEase:

Hillary Clinton: China and Russia Will Pay the Price for Supporting Syria

The third “Friends of Syria” conference opened on the 6th in Paris. Sources report that 100 national and regional organizations attended the summit, while China and Russia continued to boycott it. On one side was “Wikileaks‘” high-profile release of 2 million documents involving Syria that will “embarrass the West and al-Assad’s regime”. On the other side was the Western media hyping that one of al-Assad’s most trusted generals had “defecting to Paris”. On the 6th, international public opinion on Syria has become even more climactic than the current crisis in the country itself. The third conference’s attendees jointly declared a demand that Syrian President “Bashar al-Assad step down”, but still have yet to come up with a concrete strategy for accomplishing this. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton claims “progress cannot be blocked” [actual English was: “holding up progress…is no longer tolerable”] and that “Russia and China will pay a price” for their obstruction. French President Francois Hollande also claimed that those supporting the Syrian government will be seen as collaborators to the crimes it is committing, but mentioned no names.

The Paris summit the third “Friends of Syria” conference following those in Tunisia in February and Turkey in April, and China and Russia refused to take part in all three meetings. Agence France-Presse wrote on the 6th that Hillary Clinton urged participants during the meeting to “reach out to Russia and China.” “I think China and Russia may believe they will not pay a price for standing with the Syrian regime” [actual English was: “I don’t think Russia and China believe they are paying any price at all, nothing at all, for standing with (the) Assad regime.”], she said, mobilizing the conference participants to make it clear to China and Russia that “their behavior cannot be tolerated, and they will pay a price for it” [Actual English was: “The only way that will change is if every nation represented here directly and urgently makes it clear that Russia and China will pay a price. Because they are holding up progress, blockading it. That is no longer tolerable.”]. Like the two meetings before it, this meeting gathered together the Syrian opposition, but no representatives from the Syrian government attended.

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Hillary Clinton at the Friends of the Syrian People Conference

Also joining in on the party is “Wikileaks.” Its website claimed on the 5th that it will make public over 2 million emails involving the Syrian government, politicians, and corporations. The information would include how Syrian authorities plan to transfer and move their assets, and how it will purchase electronic equipment from certain Western companies. “Wikileaks” founder, Julian Assange, claims the content will embarrass Damascus as well as expose the “do as I say, not as I do” hypocrisy of Western countries.

Compared to information leaks, unity of the inner circle is a far more dangerous problem for the al-Assad regime. Media within Syria claim, Syrian elite armored unit and Republican Guard Brigadier-General Manaf Tlas defected on the 5th, and presently has already entered Turkey with 15 other military officials. The people from Damascus that Global Times reporters contacted believe this is the first incidence of betrayal amongst al-Assad’s inner circle since the beginning of the Syrian crisis. Tlas was responsible for the president’s protection, and was one of al-Assad’s few confidants. His Father, Mustafa Tlass, was al-Assad Senior’s right-hand man. On the 6th, Agence France-Presse quoted “reliable information” saying Tlas and his family are currently flying towards Paris.

On the 6th, “Arabia Online” said the conference in Paris is no longer discussing whether or not al-Assad should step down from power, but instead which country will receive him when he does. “France, America, and the UK said they would not, and it is not likely China or Russia will. Where Bashar will go has become a tricky problem.” Russia has been denying discussions with the United States regarding where al-Assad will go. On the 6th, Russia’s Kommersant quoted “information from the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs” claiming the government thinks al-Assad only has a 10% chance left of retaining political power. Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said on the 6th that Russia Russia does not at all stand on al-Assad’s side; and that Russia supports dialogue as the proper way to solve the Syrian conflict.

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Leaders at the Friends of Syria conference

Comments from NetEase:

网易上海市闵行区网友:

It will unfold just like Libya. History will majestically flatten out all stumbling blocks in the path forward; the Great Unity of the world is not far!

网易上海市网友:

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton claims “progress cannot be blocked” and “Russia and China will pay a price” for their obstruction. French President Francois Hollande also claimed that those supporting the Syrian government will be seen as collaborators to the crimes it is committing, but mentioned no names.
Makes sense!

俺是一农民:

Hold fast to protecting Syria, do not tolerate foreign powers controlling its politics/government, it should be self-determination by the Syrian people! It is clear that China and Russia’s position have a moral foundation. At the same time, it must be made clear that protecting Syria does not mean supporting al-Assad’s dictatorship. == China and Russia do not have the capital or political space to back out of their position on Syria. Russia’s interests in Syria are greater than those of China’s. What China is considering is if Iran will be able to hold up independently after Syria, to the extent that it’ll lose its southwest buffer. I understand and support the [Chinese] government!

奧斯卡影帝:

Stupid cunts who put down our country, if you don’t like China you can get lost, go change your nationality, are you capable of that? Just because you’re not doing well in life, you go complaining about government policies and the system, why don’t you take a good look at yourself? No culture/education, no character/class, just what makes you qualified to say anything?

[Note: This comment was one of the earliest posted comments to the above article. It could be a reaction to a few earlier Chinese netizen comments that expressed vague agreement with the notion that China will one day pay a price or that “dawn” will one day come to China, but it could also very likely be a preemptive comment against Chinese netizens who express critical views about their country.]

bryantogo: (replying to above)

Seriously agree!

有关布门: (replying to above)

A pair of SB.

123.147.*.*: (replying to above)

[奧斯卡影帝 and bryantogo] are SBs. Lousy wumao slaves!

892172056: (replying to above)

It’s my home, so why should I leave? If we left, then you trash would have succeeded! And you know what, I intentionally want to fight with you bastards to the very end!

网易湖南省手机网友:

All the states of the US should rise up and demand independence! We would support it.

网易云南省手机网友: (replying to above)

Occupy Wall Street is useless, just need the various states of the U.S. to demand independence on their own.

ye77hao: (replying to above)

Do you understand what federalism means? The various states of the United States of America already have highly independent administrations/governments.

dsxdxx:

South Korean Media: China over the span of 30 years has given 636.5 billion yuan RMB in aid to North Korea. 2012-07-07 03:36:00 From: Global Times
The incident of the North Korean Military bullying Chinese fisherman…seems like the story of The Farmer and the Viper
If it weren’t for the War to Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid Korea back then, the entire Kim dynasty would have long ago ended; that the Kim dynasty is still around today is completely because of our help…
If it hadn’t been for our protection and our objections in the U.N., America would long ago destroyed North Korea’s nuclear facilities…
If it weren’t for us every year providing massive amounts of aid to perpetuate the North Korean government…
If…

[Note: This commenter is commenting on this article about another article, because the commenting is closed and not allowed on that article.]

fseaside: (replying to above)

Back then, the War to Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid Korea was for national defense [to protect ourselves]. The goal of sending troops to North Korea was prevent the American army from reaching the Yalu River and threaten China.

不沉默的羔羊: (replying to above)

[Above], I’m truly speechless! It’s been so many years, and you still haven’t woke up, having been sold and even helping them count the money, just how long will you continue being confused?!!!

jasonhw: (replying to above)

What [fseaside] is saying is fact, and no matter how many years pass it will still be fact.

poiuyt88: (replying to above)

Facts your MB, that’s the result of reading history textbooks too much, who says that’s fact?

网易广东省汕头市手机网友: (replying to above)

The Red Guard, aka wumao.

大汉回梦: (replying to above)

The Red Guards were also protecting their country, and never had mercy towards Chinese traitorous dogs. The Red Guards had their own beliefs/convictions. What do American running dogs have? Do you understand the saying “the dogs will be eaten once all the rabbits are dead”?

blss:

Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said on the 6th that Russia Russia does not at all stand on al-Assad’s side; and that Russia supports dialogue as the proper way to solve the Syrian conflict.
The Polar Bear has retreated, the weight is all on the Panda now.

Hillary Clinton with other leaders

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  • 安健

    On the 沙发 with Hil-Dog.

  • Capt. WED

    Off topic Sofa:

    When you guys gonna “report” on the American that got merked in Beijing???

    Oh yeah and 3….2…1…. Paging HongJian to aisle 5.

    • mr. wiener

      “Merked”? This doesn’t involve a pubic wig does it?

    • Dr SUN

      pretty sad that, murdered for no reason what so ever.

      • Canadian_Skies

        Sounds like I missed something.

      • kodi

        Oh snap! He probably did not get the memo reminding him of where he was…….. “This is China”

    • moop

      well at least Yang Rui is happy

    • fredf

      “American stabbed to death in downtown Beijing”
      http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-07/12/content_15571746.htm

      • Gianna

        It’s funny how one of the respondents mentions that xenophobia is well and alive in China, when in America it is actually worse. At least the killer is mentally ill, but you hear Americans hate talk about Chinese nonstop, and this comes from, supposedly, mentally sound people.

    • The Enlightened One

      Yeah,

      Happens more than we are led to believe. They just do their best to censor it to keep the false sense of security here in China.

      I heard a story of a foreigner that was killed in a club by some Triad because a fight broke up next to him. The Triad assumed it was the foreigner causing shit and took a butcher’s knife to his intestines. Guy was killed for no reason.

      I heard of another that was crow-barred to the back of the head by a school because he was going to report them and causing trouble for them with the embassy (not exactly the best way to avoid the spotlight…).

      I heard of many other close instances, I knew a guy who was pushed from a building window, another guy who was threatened at knife point in a classroom.

      I wonder if the story will show up here… since it obviously involves foreigners. Nice how they don’t delay to show the rape story, let’s see if they show the foreigner getting stabbed story in Beijing by a crazy guy that the Chinese government let go even though they knew he was mentally unstable.

      If you link the sequence of events, you could say the Chinese government indirectly killed a helpless old foreigner.

      • How funny that I know lots of foreigners in China, and I have never heard about anything of this sort.

        • Little Wolf

          Yes, because China is such a happy, peaceful utopia, right?

        • The Enlightened One

          Maybe they just don’t tell you either because they don’t trust you or they don’t want to embarrass you.

          I have 1000 stories I could tell you.

          Foreigners getting jumped, attacked, having entire bars full of people/ crowds in the streets against them because they simple didn’t end the dispute quickly and get the hell out of there.

          Were they in the wrong in most cases? Some, yes. But it didn’t warrant an entire lynch mob… and right or wrong that’s what they got.

          • And again, I am assumed to be Chinese, even though a quick click on my name would show that I am not.

            The truth is that you are less likely to be involved in violence in China than in the UK, unless you really ask for it. On the other hand, I can imagine a crowd of Chinese people automatically siding with a Chinese if they were fighting against a foreigner, regardless of who was right.

          • The Enlightened One

            Sorry,

            My bad. I did assume you were Chinese by the name and the picture (when not blown up) made you look Chinese (dunno why).

            You are right, you usually won’t get into trouble without asking for it. But there are still quite a few instances where trouble comes looking for you.

        • The Enlightened One

          Personally, I try to stay calm in these situations. I am 6 foot, 235 pounds, and have extensive military and martial arts training. But even I know that is not enough to take on 20-30 angry citizens.

          I had one incident when a Chinese man said someone rude to my wife (also Chinese) and a security guard (in a public place) tried to restrain me as a walked toward him.

          I threw the 140 pound guard out of the way and the police came. They weren’t very intimidating with their clothes almost falling off them. But I immediately cooled myself down because it was a public place and I didn’t want to end up on ChinaSMACK as “Crazy foreigner beats up police”. Anyway, the one guy I pushed immediately starting saying I beat him and punched him.

          I started saying in Chinese, “Do you think that if I hit him he would still be standing?”… “Is this how REAL Chinese men act (crying over being pushed)?”

          Anyway, they checked the video (there was a camera) and it only showed me pushing him. We dealt with the situation peacefully… but when violence does happen, it usually happens and ends quickly.

          The one thing I was amazed with… was how quickly the police got there. It was damn fast, and I think it was because there was a foreigner involved.

          Do they normally show up in like 5 minutes in cities with a population of 12 million during rush hour over a minor dispute?

          • Little Wolf

            TEO: Please tell me you didn’t fork over any cash. I seen too many foreigners hand over money to the little fuckers that started the fight because they fold at the very mention of having to go to jail or their Chinese wife has negotiated a “face-saving” settlement which always consists of the foreign guy paying out money when if they would have just kept their mouths shut and waited it out, the cops will eventually get frustrated and send you on your way.
            Little Wol

          • The Enlightened One

            Hell, NO!

            I would much sooner be deported than pay some asshole for acting like a total prick. I know some of you may think it is a bit brash but a man needs to have some morals and beliefs. If you let them take that from you… you aren’t worth spit.

            Every ounce of me wanted to destroy the guy, but that’s where the training comes into play. More than likely this guy wanted me to beat the hell out of him so he could get money or get me deported. If the place had no cameras and no people around… I probably would have went for it.

          • linette

            how quickly the police got there. It was damn fast, and I think it was because there was a foreigner involved…..

            You got special better treatment then because you are foreigne. The police came immediately to dissolve the dispute.

            I want to see you on China smack news fighting with the crazy Chinese drivers for driving so crazy. hahaha….
            “Foreigner fights with aggressive Chinese drivers.”

      • jin

        so much hate, just gtfo. all your posts are all about bashing china for this and that. so what if foreigners die in china, it doesnt always mean that its because they are foreigners, foreigners get killed in thailand too, in cambodia, in soo many fking asian and african country. and asians get killed in america too. so whats your point?

        i heard a story of a chinese guy in america that robbed and shot in his own store.
        i heard of another story that a chinese guy got ganged and beaten to death.

        i heard of many other close instances, a far family friend of mine got killed in america for no reason (just crime) after being there for 1 month.

        so whats the point of your story and hate posts?

        • The Enlightened One

          Oh great, I got me a stalker.

          Listen to Jin, I am not bashing China… these are the stories I was told and the experiences I have encountered. Of course, I could have experienced them in other places. I don’t hate China, I think China is full of interesting (something joyful sometimes unpleasant) experiences.

          The point of my stories are that they happened. I can voice and type whatever the hell I want and I really don’t care if that offends you.

          This site is about China, Chinese related articles and experiences in China… get over it if not all of the posts are peachy-fucking-keen.

          You are free to discuss stories or experiences you have encountered too… stop being such a damn fen qing or wu mao.

          • jin

            it doesnt offend me, i just like to argue.
            and you talk almost always negative stuff about china.
            while its could happend to any other country, you have to keep in mind that china is still full of ignorant old people that still lives in the past. they dont know how to interact with a foreigner. and…. what is fen qing and wu mao btw?

          • Scott

            Jin asks “what is fen qing and wu mao btw?”

            Look up “angry youth” (憤青) and “government shill” (五毛黨).

          • Chad

            Not all of your points are peachy-fucking-keen true. In fact, none of them are. They’re all raging loser foreigner-type BS that’s all too common around here. Thanks for letting everyone know your physical measurements by the way. We appreciate and totally care about that.

          • The Enlightened One

            No problem Jin, sometimes we only see what we want to see.

            Debating is fine. I have no problem with that.

            @Chad

            Little boy, how could they not be true? They are stories of what happened to foreigners I know personally and myself (far less than others).

            You think crowds (in China) won’t gang up on you if a dispute occurs? They may not always gang up physically but definitely verbally until some physical action starts. I am not saying they are out to get you, it’s just that 9 out of 10 times, this will happen. If you THINK it isn’t true, then go ahead and test it. We will see you end up on ChinaSMACK next.

            Since you focused on my physical stature (which I mentioned because it does not allot me to act like a prick in a guest country) you must be a little insecure, intimidated bitch or some huge fat ass. Don’t be mad at me because of your shortcomings, exercise!

          • Jin

            Its always the white guy who come to China get a local wife and earn his living here yet keep bashing the hand that feed him and his family typical.

          • moop

            Jin, we have every right to criticize china and complain about chinese society. we live in china, we interact with chinese society. we all complained about our own goverments when we were in our own countries, and now that we are subject to china’s laws and society we do the same here. theres nothing wrong with that. foreigners follow the laws of china better than most chinese. i see people breaking the law everytime i leave the house. so fuck you girly

      • Gianna

        Somehow this sounds questionable. I think you’re just trying to get people to pack on more hate on Chinese, than it already is. Your post sounds exaggerated and kind of paranoid.

    • red scarf

      Its not big net news, do you think Chinese netziens would care, they would claim that Chinese is safer than the West, in fact there many Western countries who have similar or better homicide rates than China.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Homicide-world.png

      I say if theres shit going down and your a foreigner get out of theire ASP as any one who sticks out will be a foci point.

      • The Enlightened One

        I agree, if you are going to do something.

        You better do it fast… knock them out, don’t argue… don’t point fingers and don’t give the gawkers enough time to gather. Act confused, and just keep walking naturally.

        Usually, the thing that gets you in trouble is the flapping tongue of the other guy. He will start spewing that you have done ever evil thing under the sun to get the crowd on his side and it’s not hard when they all consist of Chinese people looking for something to vent their frustrations.

        K.O. and go!

        • Kevin

          That’s just pathetic.

          I run a beer bar where you’d expect there to be flash points every night and the only arseholes I get are inevitably Westerners.

          You may be a man-mountain but you’d still look fairly shagged with a knife sticking out of you.

          There was a guy here who claimed to be an ex-CIA agent and a retired navy seal. he was a complete cock head. He couldn’t fight sleep.

          Such are Americans. Full of talk and shit.

          • Kevin

            Oh yeah, forgot.

            Someone should take that bitch out and shoot her. She’s a serious risk to world peace.

      • Little Wolf

        Well, I’d say my chances of getting killed in traffic in China far outweigh my chances of getting mugged/murdered in any Western city. So “safe” is pretty how they define it.

        TEO: I wish more guys had your attitude.

        • The Enlightened One

          Hey LW,

          I think we are quite similar actually. We are both tough bastards that have big hearts but won’t take other people’s shit lying down.

          I, however, did knock out one guy for stomping a kitten… seems like the kitten was fine after but the dude wasn’t.

          • Little Wolf

            TEO: Yeah, sounds like we’d get along just fine. Regardez!

          • jeffli

            Righteous TEO!

  • mr. wiener

    Suggested song of the article:
    “Shit list” by L7.
    All other suggestions gratefully accepted.

  • MrT

    Just puked up when I scrolled down to the last picture in the above article.
    Fucking has been failure dipshit in the middle and the evil witch to the right.

    • MrT

      note the stupid smug grin on his chops, like he just dumped is load over the witch.

  • B*tches, Leave

    With allies in the middle east, invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, termination of political resistance in Lybia and now Syria … in 50 years US will own the middle east (last drops of oil). Guess Iran is next :)

    • Amir

      Of course, and Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Qatar, Arabia, and the Arab League will support NATO’s actions. The Shi’a dogs must go.

  • Duke

    The American government is evil and twisted. They have no right to call anyone out on anything. You cant even vote in America anymore and the police are buying drones. Media is run by a small group of corporations which also bought and paid for the government long ago. America is a shell of what it should be due to rampant corruption for over a century and the marriage of government and big money. All countries are the same in that regard.

    • moop

      i agree with some of what you said. but lets be honest. corruption in america reached its peak around the Tammany Hall days and if anything the government has paid for the media, not the other way around. last time i checked msnbc didnt have the ability to print money out of thin air… but why is it americans can’t vote anymore? i’m not sure what you mean by that. i agree that america is a shell of what it should be due to expansive government and corpratism, but also through exploiting people’s fears and using it as an excuse to strip away rights for a sense of security, and the populace being too intellectually lazy to try and understand basic economic concepts that if they indeed understood wouldnt lead to so many politicians pushing for supporting the myriad of moral hazards that they engage in

      • Duke

        I meant what has been happening in the delegate process for the republican party. People trying to vote and getting arrested, hands broken and hips dislocated. Others getting voted in then stripped of all titles by the establishment. Its starting to resemble late 30’s Germany.

        • moop

          you a ron paul supporter? is there another libertarian on chinasmack?

          • Duke

            It is what it is regardless of what I am. There are videos of it all happening on youtube. If the majority votes for one guy, yet the other guy keeps winning. Something is wrong with the system. I don’t agree with everything RP says, however if what he says moves people to vote for him, I think people should be allowed to. Did you know that delegates in Mass. were made to sign papers saying they would vote for Romney or lose their position. In Louisiana they just arrested anyone that wasn’t for the establishment, Oregon they tried to leave the building with the paper votes etc. etc. These kinds of things were happening in almost every state. Whether you agree with RP or any other politician, that kind of thing shouldn’t be happening in the “land of the free”. If that makes me a “libertarian”, so be it.

          • moop

            i am libertarian, which is why i was asking. not making a dig at you

          • Duke

            Good for you buddy. We are a big group of people getting bigger. Will we reach our goal? Who knows. I’m guessing black flag operation before or during the Republican national convention with mobs of angry people tearing things up(paid for by the gov). They send in police and the military to “keep the peace”, somehow RP supporters get arrested too, somehow Romney wins the nomination(again) and everyone just sits and takes it or there is revolution in America to stop all the corruption. Hopefully not with bullets but if a big event got the message of true peace and liberty out to all Americans loud and clear. It may be worth it. BTW I hope I’m not right about with my prediction.

    • USA IS THE BEST

      WOW, you have a warped perspective of America, even if you are an American living in America. Last time I checked 10 to 20 years ago or going backward to the founding of America we had real problems then. 20 years ago Asians were considered unimportant in American mainstream, they would not be considered for CEO of a company or TV or anything. 50 years ago a black man would be tortured and killed for looking at a white woman. Now the most powerful man in the world is black. I am sure a Chinese American will get a chance to be president soon, maybe our ambassador to China will try for it. If America had not outsourced jobs to Germany, Japan, South Korea and, China, then what would those countries look like today? Answer, probably the same as they did 50 to 60 years ago. You want to know what America is, America is about sacrificing for others, for you, to better the world as a whole. Lets not forget what the Japs did to you and what they still would be doing if we had not won World War 2 single handed.

      • ACE

        YOU MORON are living in a dreamland.The EVIL WHITE TRASH financed both sides during both world wars & you morons are just pawns. RESEARCH on the REAL HISTORY & WAKE THE FUCK UP!

        • mrd

          your a bit right,truth of it all is yes the west governments are evil masters of manipulative, satanic sacrificing scum,and yes the Asian governments are similar ,all they BOTH! care about is there own selfish need, not for greed but control,if you research it is coloured by where you reside as they have rigged it this way,knowledge is power,but is is also control,what we all really need is a world revolution we need to kick ALL of em out,not just one goverment they all need kicking out all the wealthy all these leaders no matter which country they reside ,they are all rotten to the Core ,no wonder we got groups like anon,wikileaks etc showing up calling for world revolution and governments doing there best to smear em as idiots and terrorist,ppl should be afraid of there goverments not the other way around ALL HAIL ANONYMOUS

          • USA IS THE BEST

            One World Government? Besides the people that would run it would be the same ones you want to get ride of. To much ranting and Utopia crap in your paragraph.

      • 404 name not found

        What an ass! O.o

      • Kevin

        No, no, the most powerful man in the world is yellow. He’s called Hu Jin Tao and he owns America.

  • B*tches, Leave

    Although US is pointing at Russia and saying evil things, but the thing is that they’re both evil governments … US just hides it better (media). I don’t remember seeing any news reports on Russia when the drunk Yeltsin was in power. Yeltsin was an idiot, just the way US liked it. Now they have that Putin guy, who makes them more sweat that the USSR did, I now I see all kinds of news, documentaries, reports on how evil Putin’s Russia is, forgetting that he actually created a power house from nothing but ashes … of course there’re downsides, but everything has …

    • Somethin Somethin

      Yeah just what the world needs more sliding moral standards for it’s leaders to go by. Building a house out of oil revenues ain’t that hard, you ever see ‘the Beverly Hillbillies’? Saudi Arabia has a non-functioning autocratic repressive regime, but they’ve got an economy humming in the middle of the desert. That makes everything ok right?

    • USA IS THE BEST

      Putin is ex KGB. Of course the west hates him. If you Chinese were to walk down the main streets of any Russian city including Moscow, you would get attacked by Putin’s followers, the far right. They are racist and attack anyone who does not look Russian or white. Just remember that next time you praise Putin.

      • ACE

        WTF! ANY COUNTRY that has the GUTS to stand up against the EVIL TRASH usa gets my respect so To HELL with the EVIL TRASH! the EVIL TRASH usa is a much more dangerous place to be in you MORON!

        • USA IS THE BEST

          You must be from a Axis of evil country.

          • mr. wiener

            No he’s just a twit with a grudge and a lack of sexual partners.
            Got the pin out of my shoulder today Ace. Any chance of seeing you down at the Jeelong rd Brazilian Jujitsu academy this weekend?

          • ACE

            Apparently the HOT-DOG or sausage prick is desperately seeking a showdown.just to be fair,I’ll just let one of my servant(65 years) have a photo of BITCH clinton & he’ll hunt you down instead.And when he does,he’ll give you FOND memories of your old man.You’ll need more than just pins!

          • The Enlightened One

            Oh please,

            Big talking bitches like this only know how to slap girls in public and blame everyone else for it. He doesn’t know how to fight his way out of a wet paper bag.

            He probably thinks Brazilian Ju-Jitsu is the dance where the Brazilian women shake their asses to the beat.

            Damn internet warriors and their threats.

          • mr. wiener

            Actually going to the BJJ dojo is the safest place to fight. There is no way the laoshi is going to allow an experienced fighter to beat on someone with no proven skills. You might learn something and even make some friends ACE.
            I have nothing to prove mate, acting like an over hormonal twit is a young man’s game.

          • Gianna

            TEO, as much as I do not like your responses, I must say that you’ve got quite the sense of humor. I lol’d at your mr. wiener reference. LOL

  • xoff

    “All the states of the US should rise up and demand independence! We would support it.”

    This comment is priceless, could you imagine if the former independent provinces went rouge? How about letting Tibet be independent or supporting a revolution?

    • mouse

      Its not that foreign, its what the TEA party wants!

      • A-Dog

        Yeah, the Tea Party currently holds 17 seats in Congress for the express purpose of overthrowing the US government from within, like a Earl Grey Trojan Horse.

  • linette

    South Korean Media: China over the span of 30 years has given 636.5 billion yuan RMB in aid to North Korea. 2012-07-07 03:36:00………

    Oh shut up South Koreans. Shut the hxll up. I don’t see you spending billions and billions each year feeding the starving North Korean women and children providing clean water and blankets for your family. You are dirt cheap and rather spend your money on plastic surgery and expensive cars and kissing American asses trying to get military protection. Why? You feel like you lost face because China is spending billions each year on saving your family and you can’t afford to? If China don’t feed the people of North Korea, you think the NK military will? They let the women and children died first. They will rather use the money to make more nuclear weapons than feeding their own people. What you want China to do? Bomb North Korea military? They are your family that will be your job. YOu do the dirty job.
    You can’t blame China for wanting the American military nowhere near their border. They are hostile toward China. Would you want China to send military or aircraft close by America border. I know I don’t.

    • moop

      you do realize that the top givers of food aid to north korea are china, the US, and…get this… south korea and japan as well. these 4 countries account for over 75% of all total food aid to north korea since 1995.

      • linette

        good, can’t just let the women and children starved. Whatever South Korea is doing is nowhere enough. They need to get more involved spend a lot more money and help. And stop constantly bad mouthing China spreading defamatory statements on the international news about it. The Chinese is laughing at your pathetic apathy toward the whole NK crisis.

        • The Enlightened One

          Well, it is quite possible that NK government doesn’t really want their help and doesn’t let them get involved.

        • moop

          they are doing enough. they are doing too much. they should let the koreans starve. it might lead to a collapse of their awful regime. as one of the top givers of aid, you calling them apathetic is laughable. the prc actively and directly supports the north korean regime that enslaves, murders, and starves its own people. south korea indirectly supports this because food aid is stolen by the military and rarely reaches the people who need it. the prc, by openly and frequently declaring them as an ally, legitimizes the north korean regime and they strenghten the north militarily as well which is a tool used to… starve and oppress their own people.

          • linette

            no moop. You can’t let the Korean starve. The people that are starving are women and children. Don’t you see them on the news? They want none of this. They just want a peaceful life to raise their children.

          • moop

            again, the us, china, and sk are not letting the people starve. the nk government is doing that. the nk regime takes the food and gives it to their military while the people starve. they also grow poppy instead of food. no matter how much food is given, the situtation won’t and hasnt changed. we are exacerbating the problem. nk needs to be cut off from all aid and either destroy itself or rise from its own ashes.

          • The Enlightened One

            It’s kind of amazing that they have the balls to do what they continue to do while they are accepting all of this aid.

            It’s obvious they don’t care about their people. North Korea is a huge problem. You can either go in and try to remove the government killing millions and causing millions of people to swarm over to SK and China. While the brainwashed folk will reject the change…

            Or you can continue to give them aid while they act like jackasses and possibly cause more people to suffer or die over a longer duration of time.

            Both options really suck. Perhaps moop is right, the only answer is to stop giving them aid and force their government to change?

            Is there any other solutions?

          • Rob

            Linette (and others)

            As it happens, the people who starved during the famines that swept through North Korea were not “women and children”. In many cases the first to die were the men as their bigger frames meant they needed more sustinance to keep them alive. It was a horrible process in which the fittest and biggest normally died first, leaving the women and children to fend for themsleves and of course, in many cases, eventually starve too. If anyone wants to have a good account of the lives of North Koreans I suggest reading ‘Nothing to Envy: Ordinary lives in North Korea’ by Barbara Demick to start.
            It is also quite naive of people to think that China’s stance on North Korea is purely anti-US military, as it is largely economic and a consequence of a fear of mass migration as well. Research first, comment second.

          • Somethin Somethin

            Read an article a few years about this in Time or the Atlantic, I can’t remember which. It was talking about the comparison of East and West Germany’s reunification. It talked about how unbelievably awful it would be for the two countries economically as South Korea would be forced to shoulder the 75 years of utter neglect North Korea has gone through under the Kim Regime. China, the US, and SK all know this and are more or less willing to allow the state to continue onward because for it to fall would mean all of them would have to spend a lot more than few million a year in food aid to bring it back from the brink. OF course I’m not saying this is the only reason, but simply pointing out the article and the perspective it gave.

        • hess

          How about China send less weapons and technology and more food?
          Also, you’re a fucking retard. Honestly, is there anything you have the slighest clue about?

          • linette

            I have more clue than you. Piss off.

          • Kevin

            China can afford to rescue North Korea. We’ll just use our trillions of American dollars.

            Then you’d shit yourselves.

    • xoff

      South Korea has a mine field to keep them out, China gives them money to make sure 20,000,000 people do not flood across the border when the government fails.

      There neither Canada nor Mexico who border the United States wold consider allowing troops on the border considering they are their largest trading partners, respectively.

      • Brett Hunan

        North Korea also has a mine field to keep them in. (Well, they say it is to stop an invasion, but who are they trying to kid?…)

      • mouse

        Dont fuck with Kim Jong-Un

        He’s the real deal

        • Brett Hunan

          What does that even mean?

          • mouse

            North Korea is Best Korea

        • linette

          OMG. You are a N korean official. Get lost.

    • moop

      besides, south koreans have a legitimate beef with the prc. you see the prc sells weapons and technology to north korea that has been used to kill south korean citizens. the prc directly supports the north korean regime and considers them an ally and close friend.

      • linette

        And SK is friend with USA using their military to threaten NK and China. So what…..goes both ways. A balance in power. The crisis is starving people in NK. Let’s take care of that.

        • moop

          yet SK and the US havent directly attacked NK. NK is always the aggressor. again, aid, especuially the prc’s aid keeps the north korean regime in power and it is the military regime that is keeping the people from starving. the only way to end the starvation is for end the communist military’s rule. this can happen by the peasants starving and rising up or direct military conflict.

          • linette

            I don’t think China is a big fan of NK regime. They are running out of patience. China and USA should definitely leave NK and SK alone. They will come together eventually.

          • moop

            holy shit i cant type, tahts what 2 hours of sleep’ll get ya

          • linette

            Get off the computer. Get get some sleep. You are here too much and not getting enough fucking. I mean sleeping.

          • linette

            what am I typing?

          • moop

            i am at work on my lunch break. no sleeping for me until tonight

          • GodsHammer

            Linette, North Korea is much bigger than s.korea and while the south koreans have been building a society, the north has been building military. so, left to their own devices, the north overuns the south in a couple weeks… and a contributing member of the asian community is crushed and replaced by a newly strengthened group of control freaks with a proven track record of playing the spoiled brat. bad idea imho…

          • Brett Hunan

            GodsHammer

            In what way is N. Korea much bigger than S. Korea???

            Nothing you wrote makes sense to me.

      • linette

        I think China is most interested in keeping USA military nowhere near their border. If USA military leave SK, the situation would be better for both NK and SK, and between China and USA. Why USA is spending billions for SK anyway?? Both China and USA are wasting their taxpayer money. China should be using those money to help the rural people in CHina. USA should use money to fix their economy. Let Sk and NK deal with each other.

        • moop

          ever heard of a mutual defense treaty?

        • moop

          china is more concerned with keeping a democracy form their borders than the US military

        • The Enlightened One

          Linette,

          I don’t know about that. SK is much stronger economically but NK is stronger in military. There is a significant chance NK will attack SK if the American army is out and China would most likely back them up.

          Think of it, China could not risk losing their buffer. If SK somehow won (with both sides going solo), they have strong ties to the US. SK would probably allow America back in afterward to put pressure on China.

          It’s like a Mexican stand-off, a Chess match where if you make the wrong move, you will lose a substantial amount of influence. Can’t risk it. The people always caught in the middle will be the poor citizens.

          I agree with you that each country should mind their own country first, but that’s not how they think. They really could care less about the people.

          • The Enlightened One

            Nothing against you Linette.

            You are simply leading with your heat (which would probably be better for this world). However, politicians only think of the next building block to grabbing more power.

            That’s why they are politicians after all, the love of power and control. You think it is to help the people? Maybe a tiny fraction.

          • The Enlightened One

            *heart… edit command please =(

          • linette

            It’s always the selfish people who are in power destroying the lives of others. They need to died. Go have cancer.

          • The Enlightened One

            Yeah but that’s not enough, I like to think that when people die they get a sort of run through of all the pain/suffering/happiness etc. that they caused while they were alive.

            If this is true, these kinds of people are in for A LOT of suffering.

          • jin
          • Duke

            Let’s also not forget that during the Korean war America was the only nation in the world with the A-bomb. Eisenhower was advised to use it on the Koreans and their allies but decided to pull out instead. All he had to do was push a button. He didn’t that’s the only reason they are still there. Learn your history people.

          • Kevin

            Last time America got involved in Korea didn’t turn out too great. Then there was Vietnam. You are not the world police. You can’t cope in this part of the world. Stick to picking on Guatemala and Grenada. You even failed in Cuba.

            Shut up and eat more.

          • Dr SUN

            Kevin the USA is a very young and juvenile country , just a few hundred years old, they still have a lot to learn.
            Unfortunately their trying to do it by copying the mistakes of others.

    • Brett Hunan

      手掌-脸。。。掴

      • linette

        yes Brett…facepalm. So what…….bite me.

        • Brett Hunan

          Easy does it. I just think you shouldn’t get so emotional over the comment posted by a Chinese netizen to to express disgust over China helping NK.

          Did you read the original article? http://news.163.com/12/0707/03/85PHPLRV00014JB6.html

          You are right, people should take care of their own countries, but China has done just as much (arguably more) damage on the North side as the US has supposedly done on the South side.

          I do wish that you would not become so up in arms about SK all the time. I also wish there was an accurate way to translate “facepalm”…

          • linette

            facepalm would be 手掌臉上. Now students of Chinasmack. Repeat after me. 手掌臉上.

            More blablabla argument regarding Sk and Nk crisis. Threatening peace in the world for Usa and China. How’s chunky that troll from Koreabang. Maybe I should go there and troll him.

          • Brett Hunan

            I have never read or heard “手掌臉上” before…. Does it carry the same context as “facepalm”? Is it commonly used?

          • linette

            We don’t really use the expression facepalm so no exact translation. But if I have to translate it will be 手掌臉上. We usually say 頭暈 instead of facepalm. You make me 頭暈 or 頭痛. That would carry similar context as facepalm.

      • Dr SUN

        Weiner, sorry Brett you know this a English language web site ?

        I know smart ass trolls like to post in Chinese, but come on, don’t use google translate to do it.

    • Foreign Devil

      Stop moralizing Linette. China is one of the few countries in the world that actively supports and empowers the N. Korea dictatorship. Without China the N. Korea dynasty would be nothing. N. Korean people are starving because of their dictator’s policy and failure at international relations. So N. Koreans starving is mostly the fault of your Chinese government’s continual support of the Kim dynasty.

    • donnachadh

      You admit yourself that the North Korean regime is likely to use any aid to build nuclear weapons (with South Korea in mind) and yet you criticise South Korea for not sending North Korea more aid. I believe if you think about your opinions for a few minutes you will realise that they don’t make sense.

  • slob

    I can see why he banged Monica…

    • The Enlightened One

      Yeah, in some of those pictures she really does look like a bitch lol.

      But that’s probably the only type of woman that will make it in politics.

      • al

        My best friend is a Secret Service agent and he was around for the Obama/Clinton campaign 4 years ago – him and all his Secret Service buddies told me that Hillary was a total flaming bitch, whenever the camera isn’t on her she is screaming and throwing things and cussing out the security guards that are paid to take a bullet for her, like a child in a perpetual tantrum. Disgusting woman from the sound of it. He also told me that Bill Clinton stopped an entire motorcade to holler out the window at some chick walking down the street. Cool guy.

        • linette

          Hillary, she is the one wearing the pants. I respect her.

          • The Enlightened One

            That’s true, since Bill often had his pants down… =P

          • linette

            hehehe…lol. Bill is so silly. He got caught.

        • Kevin

          My best friend is a secret service agent………and he told me……

          Bollocks!!!

      • Little Wolf

        She kind of looks like my mom.

        • mr. wiener

          Yeah, mine too. Except my mom [and yours too I imagine] is not a scary bitch with frown that could stop a clock.
          In that top photo she looks like a bulldog chewing on a wasp.

          • moop

            it takes a village

          • ACE

            Do mankind a favour,just don’t show us your real picture!

          • mr. wiener

            That is actually my real photo, I’m just made up for halloween. Any chance of you showing us your manly features Ace?

      • donnachadh

        What about men? Do they also have to be ‘bitches’ to make it in politics?

        • The Enlightened One

          Yes. Corporate bitches.

          • linette

            Then what you call men in power as CEOs?

          • The Enlightened One

            Shareholder’s bitches.

        • Chad

          No, they just have to be assholes.

          • donnachadh

            Powerful men are accused of being ‘assholes’ when they abuse their power. Powerful women are accused of being ‘bitches’ just for having power. If a female politician is not regularly accused of being a ‘bitch’ (for doing things that every politician does, and that are only noticed because she is a woman) then she is likely not much of a politician.

          • Chad

            Spare me the feminism. There’s plenty of respected powerful women who aren’t regularly labelled as bitches. For example, Indra Nooyi, Melinda Gates, Michelle Obama, Christine Lagard, Beyonce, etc. Hilary Clinton IS a bitch though. Not merely because she’s a woman, but because that’s what she is.

          • donnachadh

            Women in business and politics are much more likely to be referred to as ‘aggressive’, ‘power-hungry, ‘self-centred’, etc. than men in the same professions. If you can’t see this then you are seriously blinkered (but then again you do consider ‘feminist’ to be a term of insult.)

    • Rod

      I thought she looked pretty hot in some of those pics.

      I like the new haircut.

  • Jahar

    The translation from english to chinese to english sounds like Hillary is threatening to kill China.

  • Zappa Frank

    hillary is just a barking dog.. usa will never dare to do anything against china, KFC would never allow.

    • linette

      KFC?

      • mouse

        linette is a north korean agent, they just outed themselves

      • Zappa Frank

        kfc the american brand of fast food.. my meaning was.. too many interest for american comapanies in china.. they will never allow any conflict..

        • linette

          I thought so.

          • A-Dog

            So Zappa, your knowledge of the US extends all the way from English teachers to KFC. Let me guess, you think Micheal Jackson is a senator and Kobe Bryant is a political advisor to Obama. You are truly worldly.

  • Zappa Frank

    a conflict between usa and china would be a disaster. I mean, how can explain to all the americans english teachers in china, arrived here without anyjob, likley virgin because considered just trash in their own country.. arrived here in china, where they can find a job teaching their own language (wow), and doesn’t matter if their degree is ridiculos, false or they don’t have any degree at all.. here where they can find easily a girl (in many case their first one), and even if they are ugly, old and fat..they can still find a pretty young ones that say “you’re handsome!”….where they can fell cool for first time… i mean, how can you explain to them all that it’s all over?
    Hillary Clinton is really heartless…

    • moop

      most of us here arent english teachers. and none of us are talking about a war between the us and china. you fail

      • Zappa Frank

        thanks for your judgment, i really apreciate it.
        neverless is false, or you can give me some details, or i’m pretty sure that most americans here are english teachers…. the situation i described is undeniable…
        and that i was talking about a war is just your opinion, conflict has many meaning.
        guess you feel hurted.. did u find yourself in what i said maybe?

        • moop

          i am referring to people on this site. your audience. most of us here are no english teachers. i am not an english teacher and i am american and run the marketing department for an international media group that spans 3 continents. a majority of my american friends here in beijing are not english teachers. again, no one on this thread is advocating war. you’re a moron. a hateful, spiteful, and jealous tool

          • Gul

            Three whole Continents? That’s incredible. I am so impressed. Two continents I’ve heard of? Two. No big deal. But Three? Really, really great. Fantastic. And international. Well, I guess you’d have to be, to be on Three Contintents, right? Haha, wow. Three. Cause no country is on three continents. Two sure. Egypt. Russia. Turkey. But Three? No way. Wow. I’m really impressed. Three Continents.

            Fuck you, you jackass.

          • moop

            let me drink the sweet milk of your tears ya pussy

        • LeRajah

          I’m an English teacher! What of it? I’ve got a BA in English, I passed all the exams to get certified as a high school teacher in Florida, but since I graduated right after the Recession hit, they were laying off teachers so I couldn’t find a job teaching there so I came to China to teach instead. Since I’ve been here I started working on my MA in English through Mercy College back in the States and I’ll graduate in December.

          So what’s your problem with English teachers? Did you have a bad experience with one? I’ve heard stories of those who came here to get drunk and party, but all of the teachers I know are serious, hardworking professionals who sincerely care about their students’ progress in the English language and as independent, well-rounded individuals.

          So while my feelings aren’t hurt by what you said, because frankly I don’t know you, I do question your reasoning for generalizing that all teachers in China are layabouts.

          • Little Wolf

            LeRajah: No need to defend yourself here. Nobody gives a single fuck what ZF has to say. He’s an imbecile.

          • Li Wen

            Well said, LeRajah. Notice that Zappa hasn’t responded.

          • LeRajah

            Obviously, Little Wolf. Just tired of all the teacher bashing I’ve been hearing lately from other sights and various people. Quite a few of my friends are teachers and they’re great people, so it just irks me to hear us given a bad name even by imbeciles.

            Thanks, Li Wen. I know. He’s got an abundance of words until he’s called upon to account for them.

        • doobie doo

          “Undeniable”….yes that rant laid out undeniable proof of twattily squat.

          I weigh 72kg, less than i did in high school, and watch in horror as chinese children are becoming blimpified monsters because their ignorant parents are acting like ignorant americans and shoving 100grams of sugar in their face every half hour…..that is undeniable….China WILL be the next USA in the obesity epidemic…THAT is undeniable! So enjoy your America-is-fat jokes, they ain’t gettin’ any slimmer…..but realize that clock is ticking, before you end up sounding ironic, as China is a decade away from a diabetes problem that will swallow an entire generation.
          Undeniable

          you really sound angry, either you can’t afford to pay what is demanded for a good teacher, have been ripped off by underperforming pseudo-teachers, or have some underlying angst, perhaps relating to a masculinity-inferiority complex…This internal anger issue is quite common in men with less-than-attractive significant others, as returning home every day is just another depressing kick to the nuts and perfect breeding ground for unfounded feelings of jealousy and spite…..i’m going to guess #3 is the culprit

      • Little Wolf

        NEW BRETT HUNAN:CYBER-SLEUTH ON THE LAWSUIT THREAD!

        This is far more important than anything Zappa Frank has to say.

        • Brett Hunan

          Read it, love it, slightly disappointed that Brett left with only eattot, but overall it was really funny.

          If there are any artists here at chinaSMACK, I would love to see pictorial interpretations of the series.

    • linette

      My girlfriend is a teacher in USA public school system. It’s not an easy job nor an easy major in college. I don’t know about China and how one study to become a teacher. In USA however they take teaching very seriously. These are the people responsible teaching their students. Majority of the USA teachers need to be licensed and pass state examines. They need years sometimes like 4 to 6 years master degree studying in colleges. They need to be very knowledgeable in the subject they are teaching. They do lesson planning…takes a lot of time. I think you need to understand and pay more respect to USA teachers. Those come to China to teach English means that they are knowledgeable in a second language. They are bilingual….which is not easy.

      • 平凡人

        I believe not every “English Teacher” in China are qualified teachers from the State. I have spoken to some teachers from the International schools here in China, some have never been a teacher in the States. Some are teaching because their husbands are working in China and they want to kill time. They are not highly paid and that works fine for the school to be seen as having “imported” teachers. Blame the people who run the schools, they need to be profitable.

      • k

        I am a certified elem. Teacher in the USA and yes, it is difficult to become a teacher and teach. I spent 4 yrs in college, had to pass 4 liscensure exams, maintain a 3.0 (even I graduates with a 3.5), do 225 hrs of practicum work plus one semester of full time, unpaid student teaching and I had to submit a gigantic portfolio of my work to my state to get my liscense. More then the avg. college student does. Anyway teaching is incredibly stressfull especially when you are teaching children with so many different backgrounds and home lives and you have 25 of them vs. 1 teacher and you have standardized testing on top of the million other little jobs you have, like report cardz and actual lesson planning and talking to parents and oh, maintaining management over 25 children who may or may not be feeling cooperative. It is a hard job but most teachers love it. Unfortunately where i live there are SO many teachers without a job, 500+ applying for ONE position opening. So I went to Korea to teach cause I love teaching and kids. Not all Eng. Teaches are horny, culturally retarded and insensitive white males looking to make quick money and boink local women. Some are sure, but some, like me, are not interested on boinking local women and getting drunk and really actually love teaching.

        • The Enlightened One

          Well, you would have trouble boinking local females since you are a female. That’s of course if your picture is correct.

          Nice looking female there ;)

        • linette

          When teaching in USA, the teachers need to follow guidelines given by the board of ed. They can’t just teach whatever they want. There are guidelines, requirements, and methods they must follow when they do their lessons planning. It’s no joke. On top of teaching a class of 25 or 30 students the teacher also have to do behavior management to put the students under control. That would require the teacher to have some kind of understanding how to manage behavior problem students. You can’t hit them or talk down to them. Students don’t just sit still for 8 hours and listen to your lessons. They misbehavior. You are expected have to certain passing grade. If too many students fail on tests then it’s your fault….not the students. That means they don’t understand what you are teaching. You are responsible.

          • PolarBear

            Teachers in USA are not that good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0__9s3A2pcA Watch: 2:40.

            “47% of Americans teacher’s come from the bottom third of graduates.” I don’t think that’s really good quality. How these graduates are even allowed to be teachers if they suck at school? And this is in big mighty USA.

        • Scott

          Your English grammar, punctuation and expression are so poor I’m obliged to doubt you are a native speaker of English; you confuse even the simplest prepositions and misspell the simplest of words.

    • Krank Shaplappah

      Cute! Good ape-ing skills (wow); you’ve got one-dimensional retard speech down to a science! Use of the “in spirit” Ctrl+V and Ctrl+P from across the history of ChinaSmack to make boringly predictable fuckbag comments is a nice touch (in many case their first one).

      [-Too bad both spaces before the beginnings of parentheses and punctuation outside of them are dead giveaways for English composition proficiency. You gotta be more careful next time if you want to ninja our asses into “foreign-minority-incredulity”

      -btw – love it either way.

    • The Acidic Hasidic

      I run a 5 star hotel in beijing, before that i worked at alibaba/alipay.

      Both of which =/= english teaching.

      I could get a job in the states no problem. but they pay me ridiculous amounts of money to do a job any chink with a high school education could do because they like the idea of a white american jew running things.

      Also what the fuck does your post even mean? Moreover how does this relate to the topic? You start off by saying ” a conflict would be a disaster” then launch into tirade about english teachers and ugly virgins.

      I dont think the 10000 or whatever english teachers in this country having to go back home constitutes a disaster.

      • Capt. WED

        LOL. I hope America / Israel nuke Beijing so you faggot ass can burn.

        • Gianna

          Why would you wanna have a whole city killed over a guy you don’t like? Yeah, American thinking at its best. And this is especially highlighted in your Hollywood movies. lol

          • Amir

            Why do you watch films if you are so repulsed by such cultures and the nations they belong to? You are some hypocrite.

      • Capt. WED

        Why most Jewish people are some of the most racist people around? LOL.

        I’m not joking man, not just because you said chink, which frankly a lot of people call chinaman behind their backs. But I’m serious, why jews are straight up racist?

        • Capt. WED

          Oh that right. Your culture thinks other people are what they call it….some sort of people below you or something? I can’t remember cos I don’t spend my time hating on Jews. You know some do though.

          • The Acidic Hasidic

            i know some racist kikes. I know some racist goyim and niggs and chinks and camel jockey’s as well.

            You may think we have a monopoly on most things in this world, but i assure you we don’t have one on racism.

            but a serious answer, id estimate 97% of the jewish people i know arent racist. that 3% is mostly bigotry towards muslims. I’ve never heard that our culture considers others “inferior” because it doesnt.

          • Capt. WED

            K at least you admit you can be racist.

            You may be “not racist” most of the time.

            However if you’re action against some are racist, you still racist.

            Hey as long as you convince yourself it’s not racist.

      • linette

        The Acidic Hasidi..stop calling us chink. That is just rude. You folks get pissed when we call you jewish this and Jewish that. Shalom to your yamaka.

        • hess

          Then stop calling people laowai?

          • linette

            ok…that’s fair. I will stop calling you laowai and you stop calling me chink.

        • The Acidic Hasidic

          yeah i guess you got to know that ive been married to a Chinese woman for like 3 years to really understand that i write chink because its significantly shorter than “Chinese person”

          I dont think i have ever been pissed when somebody called me Jewish, because that is the correct “pc” terminology.

          I still dont get pissed when people call me a kike because im not 13 years old. Im not going throw a fit because somebody called me a bad word.

          • mr. wiener

            How about “Yid”, that’s nice and easy to write too. Sadly the easy of writing is out of proportion to the pain and anger its use can cause.
            You seem like a nice guy, I don’t want to lecture you. Please don’t write “chink” in the future.

    • Bertolucci

      ahh-hahaha. good old prejudice, how i missed you.

      I know an English teacher. No hair, 2 teeth left. Must be 50 or 60 years old. New hottie every week. True story. He’s my hero.

    • pada

      -“Hillary Clinton is really heartless”?
      Either as an kommissar for American people or as a loose pussie for Bill, she must be like that or look like SS officer in a.m. pic, so heartless that Bill finally made White House famous by turning Oval Office into Oral Office overnight.

      Hillary is only too arrogant to know, no price in this world would be dearer any longer after America paid the price for Iraq War which she wholeheartedly VOTED for,

      And last, well, fck the shit stirring mischief making dissension fomenting bad blood making dramacating provocating inciting instigating bitch.

      • mr. wiener

        If you listen really carefully you’ll be able to hear the utter indifference…. there it is!

        • Dr SUN

          God it’s fun on here today, Mr Weiner.

    • Bai Pifu

      Okay, okay. It is easy to see that Zappa was that kid in your English class who thought he was the coolest in the class because his belly was bigger than the others and thought he could buy any girl in the class because his father was some rich, fat, drunk ,corrupt official. Then the new foreign teacher walked in the room and all the girls went crazy and the boys were thrilled bc they could now talk to someone who has a clue how to play basketball. Poor Zappa sat in the corner listening to all the girls say how handsome their new teacher was and was so enraged by this foreign praise. He then looked down at his bao zi filled gut and swore that he will learn English so he could bash foreigners bravely on his semen covered laptop, from the dangerous location of his bedroom.

    • jin

      not all teachers in china are loser -.- dont generalize people.
      some are just interested in china, in the culture and other stuff.
      thats the reason they are in china, teaching english or working at chinese company.

    • Foreign Devil

      You get what you pay for Zappa. Don’t expect a Masters degree experienced teacher when you just pay $1000 USD per month on average for English teachers. Do you know how low a wage that would be in USA? That is poverty wages dude. And it’s not our problem if your girls like us!

    • donscarletti

      Wow, and here I was thinking about the nukes when I should have thought about the English teachers. Oh, and let us not forget about Americans losing their supply of General Tso’s chicken and cheap railroad workers at the same time.

      • Linette

        donscarletti, are you Taiwanese?

    • Greg (the smart one)

      Zappa Chappa – the reason it’s so easy is, well, have a look in the mirror.

      98% of Chinese males are fucking ugly. Halitosis breath, beer belly with skinny arms, ciggie stuck out the side of your mouth, rat’s nest hairdo, etc. And you treat Chinese women like shit.

      Simple really Zappa, even for a mouth breather like you.

      I’ll keep on pillaging your women until you change the above about yourself.

    • Dr Hung Low

      “and doesn’t matter if their degree is ridiculos, false or they don’t have any degree at all.. here where they can find easily a girl (in many case their first one), and even if they are ugly, old and fat..they can still find a pretty young ones that say “you’re handsome!” ”

      It doesn’t say much for the local men if the local women prefer the above rather than them.

      Why are so many Chinese men so insecure and inadequate when it comes to the opposite sex?

      • The Enlightened One

        I have met some really upstanding Chinese guys in mainland China that had no trouble getting a Chinese or foreign girl. Want to know their secret?

        It’s called confidence, being well groomed, knowing how to talk to a woman and treating her with respect (before they found another one). What is so difficult about that?

        These guys usually turned in playboys though because they knew they were like one in 10 000 000 lol.

  • Capt. WED

    Paging Hongjian to Aisle 6, we got major spillage here, a big wet one…

  • Capt. WED

    wow people got defensive fast…

    • Bruce Tutty

      and the only comeback seems to be swearing…not a lot of intelligence going on there

  • dilladonuts

    This is soo dumb. How often in the past has America supported some other b.s war’s to benefit themselves? iSH is lame son.

  • DR Jones

    As punishment, the US is going to present, free of charge, Hainan island to the Japanese.

    • Dr SUN

      Their welcome to it horrible humid place with terrible food.

  • XiaoHei

    The world’s policeman in action, once again…

  • OHHAI

    Could you try to translate the comments from more neutral websites in the future? Most of the NetEast boys tend to be extremists from my experiences

  • The Enlightened One

    This is way off-topic but I thought I should ask since quite a few of you are in China:

    I am interested in martial arts especially the effective ones. Sanda or Sanshou seems very effective as it is similar to Muay Thai (taught to the Chinese army), I have always had an interest in Wing Chung as well (because of IP Man and Bruce Lee).

    Not really into that Shaolin stuff but anyway… I was thinking of doing one of those camp things for a few months. I guess there is a few good ones in DengFeng and a one good one in Qufu. Anybody try this sort of thing? How did it turn out?

    • Little Wolf

      The Hangzhou Boxing Club has a a kung fu coach that teaches at night that is totally badass. (I usually consider kung fu pretty much useless for self-defense unless the fighter is really exceptional) I don’t know what his style is. I usually go in the daytime when nobody is there to hit the bags, etc. It’s my kind of place. The heavy bags are wrapped with duct tape, the iron is rusty and it smells like socks. None of that Bally’s 24hr Fitness spandex shit. I’ll find out for you.

    • mr. wiener

      Anyone doing Brazilian Jujitsu in China? I go to a pretty good dojo here in Taiwan. Will start going back again next month. Combined with a bit of Mua Thai you have a potent fighting form.

    • LeBateauPolice

      Yeah! Fuck Politics!

      I also want to know:

      I will be in Beijing soon again for quite a long time and I want to continue my Krav Maga classes…Anyone knows a location for that?

      • moop

        i’d check cityweekend or thebeijinger

    • The Enlightened One

      Krav Maga, Brazilian Ju-jitsu are all awesome martial arts.

      I don’t really mean a gym. I mean like a camp or retreat… sort of like this:

      http://www.shaolinskungfu.com/index.html

      If anyone is thinking of doing something for August and September… I think I am gonna try this for a couple of months. I am keen to try a Muay Thai camp too.

      • moop

        http://www.kravmagabeijing.com/

        this one starts tomorrow ya dummy. you late lucy. you silly goose

        • The Enlightened One

          Ah crap, I could of really gone for this too.

          Damn it all!

          • Connor

            my friend was traveling with me and decided to stay in dengfeng(shaolingsi) for a month and he loves it. he is paying $130 a week for food and board + training 3 times a day.

          • The Enlightened One

            Got a website?

            I may check into that one if its pretty good.

            Thanks!

    • Gianna

      I did some SanDa at the Shaolin Temple here in Germany. I believe it is better than Muay Thai, and much more practical for real life situations. Wing Chun has some useful moves, but the punching methods are not very practical (the boxing), as they expose you too much. But the defense is good. Still, SanDa is the most practical, and it contains grappling, pretty much a whole array of effective moves that you would need in a real life fight. Of course, I’m a girl, and grappling for me means the death of me, as I’m petite and thin. But for a guy, it’s awesome. You’d have to train into that longer than just a few months, though, if you want to become good at it. Shaolin martial arts are very good for health, but the Shaolin monks always train in SanDa for practical reasons, while the other styles they teach, mainly Shaolin Gong Fu and Tai Chi, are mostly for the art of them.

  • eattot

    The 11th Chinese Bridge—Chinese Proficiency, i just watched this.
    i love to watch foreigners speack chinese,ahahaha! anyone here watch this too?
    several boys and girls are truly so beautiful, much better than those so called big stars.

    • hess

      And I love to watch Chinese people wright English.

      (pun intended on the wright)

    • 404 name not found

      This folks, is the dictionary definition of ‘trollin’

  • NATO bombing runs on Beijing… Any takers?

    • pada

      Well, if NATO could manage to borrow enough money from Beijing.

      • mr. wiener

        Monkey craps in hand…winds up for the pitch…Throws….retires satisfied to beat off.
        Until tomorrow then pada.

        • pada

          Doctor: From where did you learn all these?
          Mr. Wiener: From the pain.
          — Extract from Plague by Allbert Camus, ;)

          • mr. wiener

            You’re not a plague pada, more like a fungal infection.

          • pada

            Mr. Wiener,
            Plague of fungal, your impressive way of arguing just reminded me of Bubya whose instruction I’ll never feel tired of quoting and you’ll never be tired of following:

            —-“Drug therapies are replacing a lot of medicines as we used to know it”. lol!

          • mr. wiener

            Gosh you’re right, I should have rebutted your excellent point by bringing up another french existential writer.
            Silly me , I’ll never be able to properly compete with you in the douchebag stakes.

          • pada

            Oh, Mr. Wiener, you are trying hard to impress me you even know Allbert Camus was “French” or “existential” or “writer” as well. But coming to “French” your beloved Texan Helmsman will always piss you off in the “douchebag stakes” by

            —“The problem with the French is that they don’t have a word for entrepreneur”. Hahaha!

            (You still have every right to love him, boy, since I agree it wasn’t he who invented term “Freedom Fry”)

          • mr. wiener

            Is that the best you can come up with, another tired rant about Dubaya?
            Listen…………………………………………………………………….. ………………………. That is the sound of not a shit being given.

          • pada

            oh mr.wiener, i sure know how you hate to hear him tanished like this while i have loads of them to ruin your smoggie weekend like this by your twice elected leader, demoncrazily:

            —-“there’s an old saying in tennessee — I know it’s in texas, probably in tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. fool me — you can’t get fooled again”.

            oliver boy still want more or more chance for me to shame you guys not dare to switch on light to see your flushing face in mirror? ;)

          • moop

            pada, you really are pathetic. wiener isnt even american. you really are a fool. you keep trolling and patting yourself on the back. you have done nothing worthy of that. you are trash. you’re like a small dog nipping at someones heels, sure its annoying, but it can’t hurt anyone. no one here cares that your grandmother was a japanese comfort woman and that your bastard for a father slithered out of her cunt a mongrel. its no surprise you grew up to be a piece of shit who harbors hatred for all things non-chinese. did daddy beat you? did he touch your no-no spot?

          • pada

            Wow! moop again, look up to see who’s “small dog nipping at someones heels” like you and wiener covering each other’s ars, and listen to yourself to know who is at his best defending his high IQ president with foulest mouth. I sure didnt expect ivory from a dog’s mouth and know well that, when it opens, the sunshine from other unwiped end can be seen.

            You must feel proud of your home town where Bushit with reddest neck were born and where your dad molest you on daily basis as tradition requested him to and where your momma as heavy as refregirator always has “ammo” on her Christmas list who can climb tree faster than cat when in her homemade fur-coat and where your sister is forever shirtless, giggling to any strangers with a shotgun.

            And as to you country boy moop, howdy, after swallowing the fat as you know how to survive on the south battle field, is dreaming of NY stock market which, with your vivid imagination, must have a fence around it. “I aint no redneck, yall know I am edhukated” lol!

            Last, screw your beloved ex-president, since he misguided me to the wrong direction with

            —-“Border relations between Canada and Mexico have never been better.” hahaha!

            [Note from chinaSMACK moderator: Enough, you two. Let it go. Move on. You two are worse than Elijah and Alan.]

          • moop

            dear moderator, if you would enforce your policies of no trolling, it wouldnt have gotten this far already

            “5.Trolling: Repeatedly and consistently harassing other people.”

          • mr. wiener

            Technically I’m the one guilty of trolling as I actually bothered to reply to pada’s inane postings.
            I’ll not do so in the future.

          • whiskersthecat

            This is hilarious. I’ve never been able to understand how insulting Bush would somehow hurt anyone’s feelings, other than Bush and maybe his family. Or perhaps the hit 90’s band Bush. They were pretty decent.

          • pada

            Dear moderator,

            I promise I’ll follow the rule and stop harassing Moop and Bush “repeatedly and consistently” as Moop felt it to “have gotten this far already” and I’ll “let it go and move on”, to next topic.

          • terroir

            Note to moderator: sooo… what happens now? “See you all tomorrow when we do this all over again, but in a different context?”

            This is cS. People specifically come here for that. Your telling people not to fight over a subject that only ever has two possible contentious counter-opinions is like using a rape joke controversy to not promote someone’s new cartoon show.

            [Note from chinaSMACK Moderator: We try to discourage arguments that have become predominantly personal in nature and have gone on long enough to be considered flooding of the comments section.]

  • SteveLaudig

    Ask the Native Americans, Mexicans [at least twice], Cubans, Filippinos, Hawaiians, Vietnamese and dozens of other countries, how they liked the way the US resolved their territorial dispute. The US needs to keep its violent moral sewer at home. Think: Indian Treaties and breach by the US. The USG, until it treats honorably with Native Americans, has nothing to offer the world as an example of how to deal with conflict. the USG spent 150 murdering the native inhabitants. The US gave billions to Chang Kai Shek and cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Chinese. The Japanese haven’t fully apologized and the US hasn’t recognized the need to.

    • moop

      single tear

    • whiskersthecat

      I would play a violin but instead I am wailing the American national anthem on an electric guitar as a majestic bald eagles soars above. I bet you’re wearing blue jeans, aren’t you?

      You just got freedom’d.

    • terroir

      Hi, I’m going to play mp and why-sky out with the appropriate music:

      BUDDA-BA-BUDDA-BA-BUDDA-BA-DOW!
      Whaaaaaaaaa-eeeei!
      (repeat 8x, and then a refrain of “USA” before burning out in a blaze of glory)

      (Note: that isn’t a band: it’s just two double bass drums and an overdriven guitar being played by a bald eagle that isn’t wearing a helmet while motorcycling)

  • ACE

    The evil WHITE TRASH are at it again.This UGLIEST BITCH is always babbling thru’ her arse ‘cos no man wants to FUCK her!

    • mr. wiener

      See Ace, there is a woman out there for you after all!

      • ACE

        WHOA!!! IF you admitted your mom looks like this piece of GARBAGE,then your looks are??? By the way,think your parents should’ve named you DICK! And remember that BIG-FOOT 4X4? it serves the purpose just right – RAM that thing UP the BIG FAT ARSE!!!

        • Little Wolf

          C’mon Ace. Even my sister’s 8 year-old daughter could come up with a better burn than that.

          Anyway…you might have a chance with Hillary. All you’d have to do is get a lot of plastic surgery, a penile extension and change literally everything about your personality.

          • Dr SUN

            now that’s funny

  • tony

    AMERICA IS A BULLY DELETE THIS IF YOU WISH BUT YOU ALL KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE, THEY HAVE HAD FALSE FREEDOM FOR TOO LONG AND DO NOT WANT TO PLAY NICE IN THE WORLD MARKET

    • mr. wiener

      It won’t be deleted unless you are posting under multiple names and even then not often.
      Now we get to see your posts in all their imbecilic caps lock glory ,twice, forever.

      • Dr SUN

        LOL !!

    • Gianna

      Caps Lock or not, the guy is actually right. It just sounds radical, but it is a reality everyone realizes, but never speaks of.

  • Kim Jung iLL

    China has always support killing and inhumane activities, this is nothing new. China cannot be trusted.

    • Gianna

      Frankly, every world power has done shady stuff behind the scenes to get where it is, China is no different. But if you go read the real history behind U.S.A., you will realize that USA has claimed many lives, including those of their own, and still does, and it won’t stop until it reaches its goal. It claimed more lives than you could ever imagine, more than China ever could, all for the sake of their selfish governemnt’s interests, and all for the sake of STAYING as a dominant world power.

      Anyway, I could say all I want, and sound rather drastic in my speech, but the reality is that this behind-the-scenes history is a very sharp, ugly reality that no one speaks of, or few, or they simply just don’t know of it out of ignorance. Truth stays the same, there is a shitload of foreign blood on America’s hands, and one day, it will have to answer for it all. And hopefully, China will be the one to give them a slice of humble pie one day. I hope.

      • Amir

        Goth lesbo ranting again, get out of Western countries and go to China, if this site isn’t blocked there.

  • Capt. WED

    US the supposed enlightened we’re not racist no way
    country…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFtqQwn-9UM&feature=player_embedded

    Just think this can happen to the beloved Japanese people in America, what else they hidding?

  • Capt. WED

    American people’s hurt feelings :(

  • Capt. WED

    You people are full of shit (THE PEOPLE ON THIS WEBSITE OF COURSE!)

    • elizabeth

      Including yourself.

  • Capt. WED

    BUT AMERICA IS DEMOCRATIC! WHERE THERE IS NOTHING BUT RAINBOW AND INDIVIDUALISM AND WE TREAT EVERYONE EQUALLY (WITH RESPECT TO THEIR PLACE IN THE NARRATIVE)!

    HURT AMERICAN FEELINGS!!!

    • moop

      yet you’re the one bawling like a bitch on the internets

      • Capt. WED

        at least I’m not a double think fake ass racist.

        Americans is fake as fuck. your feelings hurt.

        • moop

          my feelings arent hurt. its pretty awesome when a bigot calls someone else a racist. you’re the one who seems butthurt with your constant psychobabble about america

          • Capt. WED

            don’t matter cos you still faaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkeeeeeeeee

          • Capt. WED

            preempt but Chinese is nothing but fake shit.

            You fake fuck.

          • moop

            why is that? you’re the one acting like a full-blown retard. no one in this thread has been acting butthurt about the article. none of the americans and westerners on this site have done that on thsi thread. so what that fuck are you talking about? in fact, all the butthurt has come from people like you. read the comments by posters on this site. see who made all the butt hurt comments. you can pretend we all have our feelings hurt, but no one here is acting liek it

          • Capt. WED

            LOL. Plenty of people on this thread letting out their grievances, why you getting on my ass???? Being called fake, inconsistent, hypocritical hit a nerve there? Oh there is more to it huh? YOU admit what I’m saying is true. LOL. Admittance of guilt.

            “The evil WHITE TRASH are at it again.This UGLIEST BITCH is always babbling thru’ her arse ‘cos no man wants to FUCK her!”

            Ask the Native Americans, Mexicans [at least twice], Cubans, Filippinos, Hawaiians, Vietnamese and dozens of other countries, how they liked the way the US resolved their territorial dispute. The US needs to keep its violent moral sewer at home. Think: Indian Treaties and breach by the US. The USG, until it treats honorably with Native Americans, has nothing to offer the world as an example of how to deal with conflict. the USG spent 150 murdering the native inhabitants. The US gave billions to Chang Kai Shek and cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Chinese. The Japanese haven’t fully apologized and the US hasn’t recognized the need to.

            Except my angle is Murikkka is evil and fake but racist and inconsistent and hypocritical too. Oh noe that cross the line for fucking multinational CEO, that fucked up his perfect little world. LOL. Go fuck yourself cos you know it’s true.

          • moop

            incoherant babble from a schizofrenic shit stain. i’m getting on your ass because the spam a bunch of incoherent posts strung together like you are having a conversation with 3 different versions of yourself. you’re just as bad as the american racists you profess to hate because you’re a bigotted fool as well.

          • whiskersthecat

            Capt. Cock
            You are still so unstable after all this time.
            Please try and relax.
            Your butthurt anger over America and all things American is so…I don’t know…cliche? Pathetic? Babyish? All of the above.
            Please, we want to love you. We really do. But you won’t let us.

          • whiskersthecat

            And Cock, aren’t you a Briton?
            If not, what are you?

  • Hongjian

    Yeah, cool talk here, Hillary.
    Just like with the Iranian Oil Embargo, it was just all talk and no actions afterwards, as China, along with India, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan etc. were all exempt from the US transaction sanctions in dealing with Iran.
    This here will be the same. All talk and no action. As long as Putin wants his War-Harbour in the mediterranean, nothing short of an invasion will further US/Saudi Arabian/Quatar/Kuwaiti/Israel interests. I’ll enjoy seeing Spesnaz and Iranian special forces going around killing traitors and rebels in Syria. Maybe they will be lucky and catch a few CIA operatives and british SAS commandos too. Make sure to treat them well, and show their faces to the world media – and then, with a dull knife, behead them all and send their body parts back to England and the USA as minced meat!

    This should be the price to pay for the impertinence of attempting to defy vital Russian interests in the region. Because in opposite to China, Russia knows how to deal with the enemies of their Motherland.

    • mr. wiener

      Yes the Russians have really proved themselves the regional badasses. Their brilliant drubbing of Chechnia, elegantly handled hostage rescues and who could forget the time they liberated Serbia and made Nato give their starving troops food.
      Make no mistake, don’t mess with the Russians….or they’ll sell you one of their aircraft carriers!

      • whiskersthecat

        Haha I liked the one where they rescued the hostages in the theater but killed a bunch of them with a mystery poison gas.

        • Gul

          The “mystery gas” was nothing more than a super strong opi9ate akin to oxycontin x1000. Though many died (peacefully, thankfully) of n overdose, many were saved by administering an opiate blocker. There were definite mistakes, including the security forces trying to be secretive about the antidote (moron cops, always making things worse) nut in the end they saved far more lives than they lost. And thankfully those that were lost – though it is cold comfort – were lost peacefully and humanely, not from a terrorists bomb ripping them to shreds while they slowly died, pieces. of their body scattered across a burning theatre.

          • whiskersthecat

            10 people held hostage. Cops rush in, guns blazing, killing the terrorists and accidentally shooting four hostages (but in a way that they felt nothing and had no idea, instant death). But they saved six, which is far more hostages than lost. VICTORY

          • mr. wiener

            It doesn’t do much to inspire confidence in the russian military or security apparatus however.

          • terroir

            Those odds are so bad you wouldn’t even pass the level if that was a stage from “Rainbow Six”.

        • linette

          What? where is the link? I want to read. That’s crazy. Aren’t they supposed to bring in the negotiator first? That reminds me of that crazy Philippines tour bus where they killed many HK people. It was crazy. The Philippines police did every wrong and ensured the death of those poor HK people. I am boycotting Philippines. I will never step foot on their land.

          • Gaius Baltar

            How much do you know about the police or hostage negotiation? Sometimes bad calls are made, the british SAS have also fallen foul…

    • mr. wiener

      …..Oh, I forgot the time they showed the Georgians a thing or two. Wooohoo, Georgia! turned that budding military superpower into their bitch!

      • Charles

        LOL – sweet!

    • Bo Xilai For Emperor

      Hongjian, how many 5 cents cheques have you received from the Politiburo of the CPC? Did you have to sleep with an old hag from the CPC in order for you to “hop the fence” to make comments on here or did your mom sleep with another Frenchman in order to launder all your precious dirty government 5 cents to France and while waiting for green card, oh wait you might already be in the US, my bad…

      • Gianna

        Why do you feel the need to bully and insult him just because you disagree with what he says? Don’t have anything actually intelligent to say?

  • elizabeth

    Whether or not Russia and China or any other country wants to pay the price or not is none of Clinton’s business.

    By all means mobilize with your clout, but issuing threats, or similar such, means you are desperate, throwing your weight around.

    • Gianna

      Completely agree.

  • herro mistel

    What most people don’t realize is, there is world war 3 going on and it’s not like before. The battleground is the developing world (minus the superpowers) – Syria, Sudan, Angola, Philippines. Chinese side is financing and supporting their side, US is doing the same for theirs. No one wants direct involvement as it complicates things and has economic consequences (US and China being interdependent). The news reports it as “rebels” and “government” but really it’s just 2 sides who are equally right/wrong.

    • Kilkenny

      If it comes to superpowers, I would personally prefer to live in the world, where USA are dominating rather then China.

  • Nanny Hiccups

    I don’t believe Clinton said this. Those words are too threatening and if anything, American politicians, especially one whose husband is the former president, certainly know how to temper their words.

    • mr. wiener

      I’m sure she said something along the lines of “Bill if you don’t stop chasing skirt you will pay bigtime. I’ll get you impeached and castrated!’
      Just my sick imaginings.

      • linette

        mr. wiener…hahaha..you are so crazy…. ;)

    • Kilkenny

      What Clinton said is right and I personally support her words, although I am not American. China gets mad because of the Arab Spring, because it threatens her interests in exploiting African resources while the dictators, that now end their days in prison or with a dagger in their asses were allowing or supporting China doing so. The only thing I doubt that China would really “pay the price” as its economy is too connected with the American and they don’t need any serious confrontation. That’s just words to keep them a bit more calm and reasonable.

      • Gianna

        Are you kidding me?! America OWES China BIG time! It’s NOT the other way! And the Chinese are not exploiting Africa the way USA would. They are trying to help themselves while helping the people there. Investing into Africa is not a bad idea at all. You can raise something magnificent out of the ashes, it has happened before. China is establishing itself as the next world number one superpower by investing into lands that virtually no one wants. At least they are not going killing off the population like USA does with pretty much every country they set foot in that is on their interests’ radar. We all know now that the winners are those that have the economic upper hand, not by physical defeat. And China owns USA big time in that respect.

        • Gianna

          By the way, have you heard how the Chinese government is buying land in USA, to create their own cities? Look it up.

          • Gaius Baltar

            And?

        • Gaius Baltar

          The debt could be paid off if a higher import tariff was imposed on Chinese goods. Then the USA would pay off the debt they owe to China that way.

  • fenian

    The Empire grows. US oil companies already help themselves to China’s oil.
    That is not enough for them.
    America hates you all. It always has.
    Those who think different are the ones who would sell their country for a few dollars. Finding traitors and liars in China has never been difficult or expensive.

    USA is increasing it’s already large fleet in the pacific, and upgrading it’s bases in Japan and Phillipines. India was bought for a few jet fighters. Now why do you think that is?

    • mr. wiener

      Wow, for a fella with a nationalistic Irish name you’re very anti-yank. The US is increasing its fleet size? Where are they getting the money? Got any links on that?

      • Gianna

        China? lol

    • donnachadh

      You forgot to mention that 9/11 was an inside job.

  • RC

    The Syrian government are busy murdering their own citzens, grabbing young children, women, shooting them in the head, generally opposing the rights of Syrain citizens to choose their own leaders. Of course the Chinese communist party supports this, these are people with the same minds, use oppression, lies and murder your own fellow citizens to stay in power. The communist party which constantly lies and claims not to interfere in other countries, pumps Chinese tax payers money into the criminal leadership in North Korea, which again is another oppressive murdering regime. Where you find evil dictaters in the world you will find the Chinese communist party supporting them.

    • mr. wiener

      I don’t think the Chinese govt has an “evil-o-meter” tm which they use to gage which of the worlds tyrants are dictatorial enough for them to do business with. The only reason they choose to side with these states is for their resource or stategic value.
      The western world states have allied or supplied some of the nastiest dictators in the world for the same reasons. The reason they want Assad’s arse on a platter so much is because he he is no friend of theirs and a threat to their interests.
      He is just making it easier to remove him PR wise because he is being a homicidal prick, although not a patch on his old man.

    • Gianna

      You sound very hypocritical, if you’re American, that is. You accuse China of doing all these things you say, but USA is no different whatsoever.

      You Americans really are notorious for pointing your fingers at other nations, while you’re guilty of the same damn thing. *rolls eyes*

      • Gianna, relax about this Hillary Clinton article.

      • Rafasa

        You white people are hilarious. No unity amongst you. If there really was a day when Islam does overtakes the West, you think harlots like you will be spared just because you also despise America?

  • Capt. WED

    oh btw I don’t think US is some #1 evil or something. It’s natural to look out for one’s own interests (but that don’t mean you can do altruistic things at the same time). Bending the truth and upholding a narrative is part of that process. It is what it is.

  • Mao’s Dong

    Chinese and Ruski govts are simply fearful of what may happen if THEIR people start to insurrecting against THEIR OWN rampant human rights violations and corruption.

    These pseudo democracies / capitalists are just hedging their bets. That, and they don’t want another hard line Islamist country next door to them.

    • Gaius Baltar

      China already has a muslim country within their borders. Begins with X.

  • Cleo

    Seriously, examine the atrocities reported to be happening in Syria and tell me that they are not echoes of the torture and rapes of Chinese families by the Japanese. Same with Rwanda and Sierra Leone and both times the US and China played the same game that China was tacitly complicit in these atrocities. What do you think this is really about? Can you accept how deep and committed the conspiracy against Japan and Germany goes? Or is this really the Chinese government you know?

    And ask yourself would you EVER side with a government that supports or commits such planned acts of mayhem? Because I have never heard any Chinese defend Tibetan rapes but the Japanese individual citizens when they are not imitating Lin Daiyu’s neurotic overempathy for fallen blossoms – have had NO problem with what their government and they themselves and their family members have done to the Chinese – so much so that Ishihara is consistently reelected, Akihito et al. is permitted to play the Weeping Angelic Tartuffe – oh these Daleks – how Prince Charles really meant it when he called you and not the Chinese “waxworks” in his HK handover rant.

    We are SO SICK of having to have this world and its collaborators forcefed the violations committed against us. This world and every one’s personal life would be so much better if we were just good people.

    • hess

      JAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPANJAPAN. Just piss off already

      • linette

        hi hess…what’s up with you today? Who should piss off today?

        • mr. wiener

          I think he’s just ticked off with Cleo’s incessant raves against Japan, no matter what the topic.
          I can sympathize.

        • Jeffli

          Hess and Cleo sitting in a tree
          KAY EYE ESS ESS EYE EN GEE!

          Japan is cool. they got fresh squid!

          • mr. wiener

            You don’t have days when you feel down do you?

          • Little Wolf

            Friggin Jeffli is high on drugs that ain’t even been invented yet, wiener.

          • mr. wiener

            He’s a Kiwi.
            So, he’s high on Lanolin…BAAAAAA!

          • Cleo

            Well, lucky you for having such great taste when Japan’s Octopus Porn advocates gangrape.

            LOVELY, you BELONG on their team since you find that “cool.”

    • James

      I’m sure there are parallels with the goings-on in Homs and the Siege of Changchun, too. I wonder if PRC sympathizers have had NO problem with what their government and they themselves and their family members have done to the Chinese – so much so that PRC is consistently governing China…

      It’s a two-way street. You might consider leaving history in the past, or at least being a balanced hater.

      • Gianna

        You cannot ask of her to leave history in the past. That’s like asking to ignore the truth, when this just cannot happen. Or is that you want her to leave history in the past so as to fit your own ideals? You obviously are pro-West, and Japan is all pro-West, of course you are going to support any nation that is pro-West, but completely ignore what it has done in the past, because your own government has done the same. As long as it all serves the interest of the West, everything is okay, no? You’re asking for too much of her to change her views and FORGET something that cannot be forgotten and CANNOT be left behind in the history just because it doesn’t serve you well. A little ignorant there, eh?

  • nn

    A country is strong or not really depends on its economy. Just by looking the not good situation of China’s economy, US is getting on its way of giving the pressure. I guess the same thing happens when US economy getting down, and China steps over US. But they use different strategies, China indirect, and US direct. But I know there won’t be a war or a big crash on either country. It is just a balance sometimes over one side over another. But I do care the employment. If the economy is getting down, the employment is not good. I just want a good job, a good pay, and a nice life. And of course, good leaders for wishes.

  • Dr SUN

    China is the “sleeping Colonial power” trying to quietly colonize Africa and Asia (for now), soon their military will follow to protect their investments.

    So far as they are doing so on the money they have and do steal daily from their own country men and women, but once they what a return on their money invested, in will go the army = colonialism.
    the chinese tea club for majiang will be +1 to a member in Africa

    • Gianna

      To colonize implies to invade. I don’t see China killing off entire oppulations in Africa and Asia. Stop reading Western media. It is anti-China propaganda and it has nothing to do with the actual truth.

      • Gianna

        *populations

        my bad

      • Gaius Baltar

        Sources to prove that?!

        • breed11

          How about sources to prove your anti-Chinese paranoia. The Chinese have learned from the ugliness and backwardness of Western imperialism. They won’t go half way across the world to colonize. When people stil fought with swords and spears maybe, but now there are so many guns, you can’t rule other nations.

          • Gaius Baltar

            I simply asked her for her sources. Nothing more, nothing less.

          • breed11

            What about the Chinese people that have been killed in Zambia just because they were Chinese. You cant point at that and claim all of Zambia hates the Chinese. Gaius Baltar you’re just prejudiced against Chinese people. Plain and simple.

          • Gaius Baltar

            Prove it or what you assert is meaningless.

          • breed11

            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19135435 Here’s an articles from the BBC about Chinese managers that were killed. Here’s your proof. You really don’t know anything.

          • Gaius Baltar

            Strawman argument designed to wind me up. I happen to be a graduate, well read, and no I don’t believe in mensa tests or any such nonsense. School of life is a far better teacher than any school or uni.

    • breed11

      China has done a lot of good in Africa and Latin America, building roads and bridges, much more than West ever did. They have offered these places trade and not colonization. Europeans hate the fact that China is just a more mature superpower.

      • Gaius Baltar

        It is not altruistic, where are they teaching chinese language, helping the poor and starving? It is not give and take, but all take.

        • breed11

          How is it taking for them to build roads, bridges and schools. What is wrong with you? You would rather these counties have nothing, but aid coming from the West, which is small and pitiful, than engage in trade and have higher growth, which is happening from Angola to Brazil. Why would they teach Chinese? English is the language of the world. That’s what we’re all learning. Don’t speak on things of which you don’t understand.

          • Gaius Baltar

            Africas resources got nothing to do with it then? Funny how it is still hard for Africans to get visas, reside in China, is it not?

          • breed11

            What are you talking about? Africans don’t want to go to China. They prefer to go to Europe and America. Why are you so obsessed with trying to prove the Chinese are as evil as the West was. Americans need a visa to go to China, unlike Japanese who don’t need it, and China owns their debt. It doesn’t mean China wants to “colonize” America. It is hard for everyone to get visas to other countries. It is hard for Indians to get visas to China, and the opposite is true. It’s due to economics, not discrimination, they don’t want a flood of new workers.

          • Gaius Baltar

            They don’t? How many are there working as english teachers, or doing the rag trade in Guangzhou? Have you ever talked to someone from West Africa in China, I mean, REALLY talked to them and got to know them. Some of them fake education certificates just to get a job teaching and who can blame them. Even 4,500 rmb a month is better than nothing, and they can seek out clothing trade opportunities while sending some money home,

          • breed11

            What are you talking about? I know a lot of Africans and rather than go to China to get jobs they want and should fix their economies and create jobs. China used to be very poor, but they changed that. Stop talking about Africans like their victims. You don’t realize how patronizing you’re. Most of the Africans I know would prefer the Chinese over whites any day of the week.

          • Gaius Baltar

            Not talking about them as victims at all, met many friendly and kind people from Africa in China. Africa is not China, China is a country not a vast continent of differing countries, a whole gulf of a difference. If I came across as patronizing I am genuinely sorry, but what you probably think as chicken feed in China is to some a better life. I think you need to stop reading the guardian over a skinny latte in Starbucks myself, again nothing personal, I just like to play devils advocate. And debate is good, it will get your blood boiling and keep your mind sharp!

  • anonymous

    @奧斯卡影帝: you people are not even free to comment on a article. ur comment is edited and praised for scolding those who are against ur dictatorship, you people are just meant for 3rd class manufacturing , carry onn.., u are good at it.

    • takasar1

      but this “3rd class manufacturing” means that they own you… i’m sure they can carry on doing that

  • SO just because China does not follow the USA and gives soft support to Syria whom the US and Eu supported for years just like every other despot leader around the world. Now they want to foul China for not being their dog???? As an american I would never want my govt. to bend in such a way and not act in the interest of my people…

  • KongMingQin – General

    We’re the sons and daughters of Yan and Huang, The Celestial Empire!!!
    We WONT back down in face of this ”hilarious clinton” and those vermin that follow her government… ”China will pay the price for suporting Syria”… is that true? or an stupid Internet Rick Roll?? how she DARES to say that about China?? They we’ll have to say ”You guys gotta pay a shitload of debt instead of ranting here like DOGS”

  • kodi

    I don’t think the government in Beijing supports Syria, they simply don’t support governments interfering with a countries internal issues. In a way I can understand this. Sometimes this gives foreign powers sway over shaping who takes power if a transition of power takes place. Furthermore, Beijing also does not want foreign powers standing in their way if they open fire on their own citizens again.

    I was in a meeting with a security official in Beijing and I was promoting riot control equipment to them in hopes of landing a contract. I was surprised to hear his opinion that our equipment was useless….. HAHA that was an eye opening moment for me because what he said next was very different from the way we see things in the West. He said, “Why would we use this when we can simply use guns?” To this I replied, “Well you can’t just kill them (protesters) all.” He said, “We can try, besides if we use riot control equipment then they will simply move to another place and continue protesting. However, if we use real bullets and kill a few people the others will be afraid and stop what they are doing.”

  • Gianna

    I support China. America should quit sticking its nose into other countries’ affairs. Oh that’s right, they have profit to suck out of them. This Clinton bitch has a lot of guts to say that China will pay the price. No it won’t. America will, though, because it has a shitload to pay for, worldwide.

    • Rafasa

      Shut up, lesbian.

    • Totally agree The USA has had its day and its time for it to sit down and keep quite, it is already trying a invade china by surrounding it. China would crush them with out a moments hesitation.

      Shut up Rafasa you troll

      • Xiao Zhou

        I personally think both the United States and China have flawed governments. I’m tired of people picking between the two, overly glorifying the USA or China.

  • Gianna

    Whisker, I don’t want to, and I can’t. Don’t tell me what to do, and you have no right to try to shut me up.

  • Xiao Zhou

    There is NO best way to resolve the conflict. I read several Chinese and English forums, and there’s Chinese people hating Assad, Americans adoring him, and people who just don’t care one way or another. Assad is brutal, and the rebels include terrorists.

    As an overseas Chinese student, I think both the West and Russia should just lay off. The Gulf states and Iran will be able to balance each other out and prevent Assad and the opposition from gaining too much power…hopefully.

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