Chicago Group Beating of Asian Teen, Chinese Netizen Reactions

A group of teenagers kicking and beating a Chinese boy in Chicago.

On Sina Weibo:

@YouTube精选: Outrageous! Recently, this “Chicago Asian boy beaten by group” video has been spreading on various foreign sharing websites: The 17-year-old boy not only had his sports shoes [sneakers/trainers] and wallet robbed, he was also repeatedly beaten by the 7 thugs! [怒] While bullying and robbery can be found in every country… At present, Chicago police are already investigating this matter.

An animated gif of a group of Chicago youths beating up a single Chinese boy.

12/01/18 UPDATE: An edited copy on popular Chinese video sharing website Youku that currently has nearly 1 million views and over 9000 comments over 300 pages since it was uploaded 1 day ago.

The above microblog post featuring the above video was posted just after 5pm today. In less than 4 hours, it has been forwarded over 2200 times and has nearly 900 comments. It is not “viral” by Chinese internet standards (yet?) but as requested, below are a selection of the Chinese netizen reactions and comments. Please note that in addition to the comments below, many comments expressed disbelief, outrage, and strong condemnation of the attackers.

Comments on Sina Weibo:

爽歪歪汉堡:

[弱]

小狐狸戊:

Sigh, better transfer schools.

辣鱼欢:

[怒]

Mr_Fixit:

Must learn some self-defense.

我叫尹小菁:

Where’s the Chinese kung fu?

志在权倾_:

Descendent of corrupt officials, deserves to be beaten.

Wai_Nam: (responding to above)

How do you know he’s a child of government officials?

往日寂忆:

Fucking foreign devils, overseas Chinese should stick together, or else they’ll always be bullied.

刘宗配音:

Don’t make this more than than it is. The middle school student videos from Guangdong these past few years are much more cruel than this. It’s a common phenomenon around the world.

爱学英文的克里斯:

Human flesh search these bastards. Fuck

加个卤蛋:

If he’s the child of a civil servant [Chinese government official], then he deserves to be beaten!

A Chinese young man being dragged and beaten by a group of Chicago youths.

DrDrr:

Fuck, American pigs.

响马屯:

Immediately gouge the eyes of one of them, and the rest of them will all be [scared] stupid.

孙巍律师:

I watched half of it and I really couldn’t watch the rest. Poor kid…

ck5000:

When foreigners attack people in China, no one dares to do anything about it either… It’s happened so many times now.

猫_Blue:

“If he’s the son of a corrupt official, then he deserves to be beaten”. This kind of comment is really unbelievable, why is the hate for no reason transferred [onto the child]?

美国代购-gogo:

Overseas students abroad, you must take care to protect yourselves.

王欢无泪大欢:

These bastards are sick, both beating and filming it, even uploading it onto the internet…

盐颜男子:

The United States is place where the strong prey on the weak, and safety in public can also vary greatly between different places. This kind of thing is very normal, it isn’t just against Asians, although Asians happen to have relatively weaker physiques.

军港嘟嘟:

Why [did this happen]? 7 against 1? [怒] Nowhere is there peace~

laiyx2001:

Every country has scum.

Ellis_Luk:

First worry about our own country’s school violence.

中华人民风雨同舟:

Throughout history, white people have always been inhuman! You think China are the Indians [Native Americans]. Whose child is this? Encourage him to learn martial arts.

Stephen_史提芬:

If you don’t want to be bullied abroad, learn martial arts… Laowai are all afraid of Chinese kung fu.

July-77th:

shit you Fucking American

清河卧虫:

Can anyone explain what happened?

Limochio:

All we have to do is beat up some Chicago person here [and it'll be even].

洋洋洒洒Patrick:

Human scum can be found anywhere.

DArchie:

In the video they yell “Chinese negro”!… Are Chinese people very black?… I never knew America was this frightening~~~!!

吴宗宪2010:

Beating kids is wrong, a crime. But considering the probabilities, this may very well be the son of a corrupt or naked government official [one whose wife and children are sent abroad]. In that case, I have to applaud this!! Well-beaten!! Beat him to death!! Beat him until his large intestines fly out of his anus!! Oh yeah!! I welcome all black people and white people to wildly beat the son and grandsons of overseas citizens of Chinese origin!! Curb corrupt officials from fleeing abroad!!

凡怒:

Americans have human flesh searched them out. Of those beating, three are Chinese. The one in grey is named Wesley Wu.

Joseph_Lyricson: (responding to above)

Fuck, that’s really quick… Requesting the truth [of what happened].

凡怒: (responding to above)

This thing is really big in America, they even have their telephone numbers already.

A gang of Chicago teens beat up and rob a Chinese boy on video.

429105730_f20e9f:

Don’t let me see laowai right now.

Sunshine_Jason:

Strongly demand the local police investigate this incident.

开元真爷们:

Hope he’s a little Japanese or bangzi!

嚧小宇:

He was pretty fast running away.

无恶不作的小霸王_:

So a Cantonese speaker becomes a “nigga” [汗]

Cayenne-Z:

Fucking Americans!

Mini-端:

I hear there are already new developments to the matter, that there are even Chinese people amongst the attackers. A wise man doesn’t fight when the odds are against him, running away is the right move. Then go home and buy a baseball bat, maybe an aluminum one, then find them and beat them to death one by one. [怒][怒][怒]

細嘉tm:

Any place where there is people is scary.

valderfieldsS:

Laowai are all this vicious? Are they as vicious as our chengguan? [思考]

无恶不作的小霸王_: (responding to 凡怒)

No way, Chinese beating Chinese? Fuck.

BigRaymond:

I’m here to read the comments – - I wonder what the comments would be like if it were Asians ganging up and beating a laowai?

龚小7:

In this kind of situation where one is being bullied, one has to target one person. Even if you’re beaten to death, you still have to go after one of them. At this moment, you have to go all out against one of them, bite off his ear, and not let go even if you’re beaten to death.

哈哈哈呜哈哈哈:

A sharp contrast to how laowai are treated like gods in our country.

曼波哥:

Why is the one thing I keep hearing: “f*ck you nigger”?

selen_chan:

How can this happen?! [怒] So lawless!!! [哼] Hope Chicago police will justly deal with this and not cover it up. [右哼哼] Doesn’t matter if this Asian boy is Chinese or not, we should all be concerned for him. [悲伤] These fucking Americans have truly embarrassed their country!! [愤怒][愤怒] Forward this forward this! Let even more people know about it!

Tony_Stark沈琦伟:

Upon arriving in America, the first one one should do is spend some money buying a handgun and learn how to easy it. Keep it on you to protect yourself, in order to protect yourself against this kind of situation. The moment a bunch of overconfident thugs see a muzzle, they’ll run faster than even dogs. Even if you open fire and kill a few, you’ll be judged not guilty according to American law.

林延ping:

@美国驻华大使馆 #美国驻华大使馆 [United States Embassy in China] The person the laowai in this video are yelling at is Chinese, so everyone forward this to the American Embassy.

我叫洛梓潼:

How come the person who filmed this didn’t help him?

tenffy王小灰:

Our own people bully our own, much less foreigners. Always thinking our country is so strong and powerful, but is it the people or the government that has nothing to do with us that’s strong and powerful? Not many people understand this.

Jerry小乖:

To be completely blunt, in the eyes of laowai, Asian males are just competition for their jobs and Asian women are just there to service them.

小雯纸Alice:

TMD racial discrimination yet again, what are Americans so cocky about, a bunch of… I don’t even know what word to use anymore to condemn those Americans… [怒][怒][怒]

胡鸿希:

The comments are even more upsetting than the video. [Some of] you only fucking know how to how to make meaningless stupid remarks.

梦落长门:

Everyone add @美国驻华大使馆 [to their comments to forward it to the American consulate Weibo account].

小芹卓玛Mia:

It could very well just be the child of an official or rich Chinese studying abroad. If he’s beaten, then so be it. Even if they beat him to death, who cares?

christine杨:

Information of one of the hoodlums: Johnny J Li ,PHONE#(773)8231160.

christine杨:

The phone # of one of the thug’s parent: Wan S Lau (773) 8231160

christine杨:

The phone # of one of the white thug’s parent: Alejandro Palomino,Mother: Mariel Palomino。(773) 8935231

很多蛮牛:(responding to above)

Google has free telephone calls, as long as you have an American IP address you can go on Google and call a North American phone number for free~~ Do you want me to call and say “Your son is a fucking bastard???”

A teenage boy hits another Chinese teen in the face with his sneaker during a gang beating in Chicago.

自我_Xiao:

Take a look, the vanity of Chinese people wanting to emigrate abroad, serves them right for being beaten to death! Anyone with a bit of national pride would not go abroad. Foreigners think Chinese people are fools. Foreigners don’t dare to be so cocky in China unless they want to be beaten to death! Why I fucking JB hate the most are those ABCs! Think you’re so niubi, right? Go out and you’re just like a dog! [弱][弱][怒骂][怒骂][鄙视][鄙视]

可爱的Supe雷雷:

I wonder what kind of treatment foreign students get in China? Are there also people who would attack/beat them? Or simply look at them favorably with curiosity and envy? When seeing someone from Chicago in the future, first give them a beating!

Veranatay-詩牛:

More or less there’s always some discrimination by laowai toward Chinese, so I don’t envy living abroad at all.

梦落长门:

Possible offender: Johnny J Li (773) 8231160 3518 S Paulina St Chicago, IL 60609-1228 Possible Parents to this offender: Wan S Lau (773) 8231160 3518 S Paulina St Chicago, IL 60609-1228 Chi Lau 3518 S Paulina St Chicago, IL 60609-1228

懒人零羽Strobist:

On YouTube, it says 4 of the people in this are Asians, maybe Korean or Chinese, because of the Li and Wu surnames.

林延ping:

These seven stupid cunts have already been arrested, as well as human flesh searched.

小芹卓玛Mia:

Using the internet expecting the truth, now that’s idiotic.

林延ping:

WESLEY WU – grey hoodie, main kid attacking the man, deleted facebook. EASLEY WU – big puffy jackey with fur hood, blue striped adidas pants RAYMOND PALOMINO – white guy with no mask TODD RAMOS – grey and black hoodie JOHNNY LI – blue hoodie and blue snap back on DANNY HUI – dr

神策圣堂:

This is exactly why I think Chinese people, even those working in foreign companies, who give themselves an English name for no reason are all SB. Did your parents not give you a name? Even your laowai boss, have him call you by your [Chinese] name, and they will actually respect you for it…

御姐控Levi:

So this is what America means by “human rights”? China’s [pro-America netizens] should sober up.

發光二级管:

This kind of thing also happens every day in China.

hyacinth82:

This isn’t racism! It’s just a bunch of immature foolish kids!

梦落长门:(responding to above)

It may be, but at present we don’t know the reasons [behind the beating]. No matter what, I trust the majority of ordinary Americans couldn’t do this kind of thing! It’s better [for everyone] to be more rational, even if we’re very angry!!

Funny_苏同学:

Racism is not something that can be solved/eliminated quickly.

christine杨:

It seems like 5 of those in the video are Chinese.

christine杨:

We can only say that there are bad people and good people everywhere. ╮(╯▽╰)╭

频道堵塞:

Translation: Who told you to not stay in China, who told your parents to immigrate, and not obediently stay in China drinking Sanlu?

坐警官天:

Asian? Hope he’s Japanese.

stojakovic2006: (responding to above)

If this is how Japanese people are treated in America, the treatment of Chinese people may be even more sad. I think he’s Chinese. Asians are a small minority in America. This problem is not as simple as whether he is Chinese or Japanese.

坐警官天: (responding to above)

It’s normal. Forget America, it’s like this even in our own country.

吴卬:

Americans beating Americans, what are you guys getting so excited for?

陈龙zero:

Chinese people are second-class citizens in America, whereas Americans are first-class citizens in China.

What do you think?

A lone Chinese teenager is beaten by a group of Chinese and white teens in Chicago, Illinois, United States.

Thanks to chinaSMACK readers Jeremy, Greg, samgyapseol, and others for letting us know about the video on YouTube.

  • Nas

    why cant we all jus live peacefully

    • Takeru

      its the Human race …

  • Tie Ridge

    Hello I am an American an I can tell you this happens all over america. These guys are just like the blacks in the u s. they never fight 1 on 1 always have to have many to fight one. The good thing the idiot posteded this so the police can arrest at least 2 of them that showed there face. I tell all forginers visiting the U S. DONT TRUST ANY ONE HELLO

    • http://www.truecrimereport.com/ Capt. WED

      Not trying to go against because I don’t want to piss you off because you may jump me too. But a lot of young people if they want to jump you they do it with at least 2 or more. It’s just the way it is. All is fair in love and war. It’s like USA bombing Iraq. It’s just not going to be fair most of the time. Also remember it’s mostly teenagers doing these kinds of stuff.

    • E Puff

      And being a black person myself, that’s bullshit about black people being afraid to fight one on one. I have no idea what planet you live on or why you just tried to perpetuate a lie like that thinking that no black people were around to oppose you.

      • TAKE5

        What’s funny puff is Blacks have said the same thing about whites, they never fight you one on one.

        • E Puff

          I’ve never heard black people say that about whites. Black say some critical things, but that is something i’ve never heard.

          • SuperHappyCow

            Yeah, neither have I. I hear black people say bad shit about other peoples, but that’s strange, and I think untrue.

          • Darnold Bum

            Actually I have. As in “Every time a black man (singular) tries to get ahead whitey (implied collectively i.e. plural) put his foot on the back of his neck” Your other comment~ right on.

          • E Puff

            those two individuals are doing what white people have been doing — enjoying the anonymity of the internet. they’ve been using it to make all of those racist comments that they wouldn’t dare utter offline — enough about cracka ass crackas, true story – I met obama when I was in chicago going to college and let me just say whew that man was hot.

          • SuperHappyCow

            Darnold, I’m pretty sure you’re not educated about the prison-industrial complex, or who actually writes your laws.

            Move along.

        • Carmel Kid

          This to all in general. As an American who happens to be black, white, and native american all rolled up into one. I haven’t seen any particular ethnic group who doesn’t have a certain percentage of hateful punks and cowards. It’s a shame the discussion even went there but, people are people.
          What I can say is that it’s too bad bad a group of me and my buddies of different ethnicity’s didn’t stumble across this event. The poor kid getting beat would have ended up their shoes after we whooped their little @ss’s. The little racist punks should be locked up.

        • Blacklinguist

          I am Black and I have never heard anything like that.

          • Blacklinguist

            I am Black and I have never heard anything like that.
            What planet are you from!?

            “What’s funny puff is Blacks have said the same thing about whites, they never fight you one on one.”

    • Takeru

      My son lives in LA – he told me that , too :(

      • vadavialcu

        So it must be true. Thanks for the tip.

    • SuperHappyCow

      See what I mean? This story isn’t even about blacks, yet black people get casually thrown under the bus as if they own jumping people.

      Remember Rodney King? Yeah? How’s that logic working out for you?

      I wish there was a freight blender large enough to fit idiots in.

      • Darnold Bum

        “Pretty sure” is not positive such as “I am positive, I know more about the Ameriacn prison sytem than you”

    • response

      are you an idiot all of these guys were white

    • Blacklinguist

      You’re not American…you can’t even spell…what is posteded…it’s posted. Every American knows how to spell foreigner…And it’s their, not there. First of all it is not all Blacks that do this. It is the gangbangers that double team people, and not just Black gangbangers, it is also White, Mexican, Puerto Rican and even Asian gangbangers, as this videos shows. Gangbangers are terrorist in this country, and I am sure that they have them in every country incuding China. I, like a most Americans was outraged at this video. I am a Black American. Stop blaming Americans for this act.

  • Takeru

    Reading Chinese comments about us Japanese arent better …

    • E Puff

      Yeah that japanese comment was dirty. You know what? Chinese people it seems, are treated so badly by their own government, it’s like they are collectively suffering from stockholm syndrome. Because of the restrictions on speech, and maintaining social order. they are not allowed to criticize their own government so they take their anger out on other races and people in other countries. I don’t know much about Chinese history but I read some articles about Mao Zedong and how many millions allegedly died because of him and yet no mention of that, they talk about some old ass battle with america that most american people don’t even know about.

  • E Puff

    hey, back to the topic of this video of the kid being beaten up… three things.

    1.) American kids are a bunch of fat asses who lost their breath after chasing the boy for five seconds lol.

    2.) the chinese boy began to fight back only after they threatened to take away his school work (why you want my book bag!)

    So you can beat him, take his shoes and money, but don’t you dare touch his bookbag.

    3.) To his credit, the boy was able to not only take a beating, get up, talk (without crying or whimpering), but also resist at some point and eventually trick the idiots into giving him some space so he could run off.

    4.) If he had not run, they were going to kill him.

  • Samantha

    “Every country has scum”
    Every where there is violence, everywhere there is corruption, piracy will never stop, criminals will replace the last just the the rain will never stop coming and earthquakes will never stop shaking Taiwan.
    Just because these things will never stop, doesn’t mean it isn’t worthless nor should we sit back and do nothing of it. This boy is not not “no one” he has an identity, the trauma this boy experienced is UNFORGETTABLE and it wasn’t his choice to be born of the son of a civil servant. Just because global affairs never stop doesn’t mean we can’t do anything about it; because the people who lazily acknowledge this as nothing more than another mediocre affair are the true scum.

  • Takeru

    my apologies , guys

    my comments always show up under the wrong posts :(

  • Doesntmatter

    This person is going to die from cancer, she needs a bone marrow transplant and desperately needs a match http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzXnmxSCMO8&feature=related
    Please register if you are an Asian American

  • Dan

    Lil’ fuckers can’t fight one on one………pieces of shit all deserve a bullet.

    • The Dude

      I whole-heartedly agree!

      I’ve seen it in my country and in China.

      I’m no old man, but in my day everyone would form a circle and let them go at it and slap anyone else who attempted to get involved. The generation two years down were quite the opposite.

      Fukin’ animals.

      Where’s the honor? Shameful… in any country.

  • Lin Chong

    At least 12 national and 3 state-wide surveys have asked probability samples of the general adult population about defensive gun use. The two most sophisticated of these are the National Self-Defense Survey done by Marc Gertz and Gary Kleck, Ph.D. in 1995 and a smaller scale survey done by the Police Foundation in 1996.
    The National Self-Defense Survey indicated that there were 2.5 million incidents of defensive gun use per year in the U.S. during the 1988-1993 period. This is probably a conservative estimate, for two reasons. First, cases of respondents intentionally withholding reports of genuine defensive-gun uses were probably more common than cases of respondents reporting incidents that did not occur or that were not genuinely defensive. Second, the survey covered only adults age 18 and older, thereby excluding all defensive gun uses involving adolescents, the age group most likely to suffer a violent victimization.
    The authors concluded that defensive uses of guns are about three to four times as common as criminal uses of guns. The National Self-Defense Survey confirmed the picture of frequent defensive gun use implied by the results of earlier, less sophisticated surveys.
    A national survey conducted in 1994 by the Police Foundation and sponsored by the National Institute of Justice almost exactly confirmed the estimates from the National Self-Defense Survey. This survey’s person-based estimate was that 1.44% of the adult population had used a gun for protection against a person in the previous year, implying 2.73 million defensive gun users. These results were well within sampling error of the corresponding 1.33% and 2.55 million estimates produced by the National Self-Defense Survey.

    • mankouzanghua

      these statistics have been debunked by David Hemenway (for example see his paper in the journal Chance:
      http://www.stat.duke.edu/~dalene/chance/chanceweb/103.myth0.pdf )

      to summarize, drastic overestimation is typical for any small likelihood event where measurement accuracy is less than 100%. the reason is that, even if the errors in reporting are random, most misclassifications tend to be false positives. most people have not used a gun to defend themselves against a crime.

      to illustrate, say you’re right and somewhere around 1.44% of adults have used a gun to defend against crime. you then do a survey of a representative sample of 10,000 adults. there would be 9856 chances for people to falsely or mistakenly report that they used a gun to defend against a crime (.9856 x 10,000), but there would only be a possibility of 144 people falsely or mistakenly reporting that they DID NOT (.0144 x 10,000). if the reporting has 99% accuracy (i.e., 99% specificity & sensitivity), the survey would have estimated the number of times people used guns for self-defense to be almost 4.2 million (not 2.5 million as they found). if accuracy is lower, like 97%, the survey would have estimated over 7.5 million incidences of defensive gun use.

      if you deny any of these you can set up a table and multiply these out yourself (or look up Bayes’ theorem). (also you can see how little of an effect there is due to changes in sensitivity (i.e., under-reporting), and how extreme the changes are when you change specificity, further driving home the point that the argument above about this being a “conservative estimate” is ridiculous.)

      likewise, if there were actually only 1000 such cases of people using guns to defend against crime (not 2.5 million as they claimed), the same survey of 10,000 randomly selected adults with 99% reporting accuracy would estimate that the number of incidences was over 1.7 million. if the reporting was 97% accurate the survey’s (likewise ridiculous) estimate would be around 5.2 million. lol

      if you question whether the reporting would really “only” have 99% accuracy, you should try conducting a survey sometime. a small subset of people will misreport about anything and everything possible: whether they have a library card, whether they voted, their age, their kid’s height, whether they are a member of the NRA or subscribe to a particular magazine… studies attempting to corroborate people’s responses to these kinds of items find that 83% to 98% accuracy is on the high end. taking into account the potential for misidentification of events, social desirability and other motives for being less than honest (i.e., i want to show that my decision to get a gun was correct), people being annoyed that you called them up, disconnection from reality, etc., 99% accuracy in reporting would be a very good and desirable level of accuracy to shoot for. (pun intended)

      basically, even if you do your best to design a good survey and interview procedures and get 99% or greater accuracy, the results you obtain are still shit because of the event’s low baserate. you could promptly wipe your ass with the paper the results are printed on, because any statistician will understand this overestimation effect and any unbiased person will understand that the results (2.5 million) make no sense with any other (much more reliable) information.

      what someone should do is conduct a study where there is some independent verification – for example, either police reports or another person’s confirmation of what happened.

      as is, these data are meaningless (and also hilarious how bad these people got PWNED, although people continue to report their conclusions because they don’t understand statistics).

      • Lin Chong

        Speculation about the flaws in surveys estimating large numbers of defensive gun uses resemble UFO buffs’ beliefs that the federal government captured aliens from other worlds at Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. The reason most people do not share these beliefs is not that they can be proven false; they cannot, since it is impossible to prove a negative. Rather, most people reject them because there is no credible evidence that they are true. It is the same with speculations about the gun surveys’ supposed flaws. Since it is impossible to prove a negative, one cannot prove that massive misreporting of nonexistent defensive gun use incidents, or misuse of statistics [I teach a graduate level class in this, btw] did not occur in the gun surveys. There is, however, no evidence whatsoever that such massive misreporting did occur.

        Faced with such overwhelming survey support for the idea that defensive gun uses are common, some pro-control scholars belatedly adopted the view that surveys simply cannot yield useful information about how often they occur. Faced with defeat on the field of empirical evidence, they suddenly developed a radical skepticism toward all survey estimates.

        Self defense is a basic right and part of the first law of nature—that you have to stay alive. For anyone wishing to waive that right, I believe that is also your right. The Brady Campaign against the Constitutionally protected Second Amendment will welcome you!

        • mankouzanghua

          speculation? misreporting in surveys is unavoidable and, by the laws of statistics, will lead to overestimation of rare events.

          speaking of Roswell, i’m surprised that you don’t believe aliens are visiting earth. a random digit dialing phone survey using the same methodology as your gun studies found that 1.2 million americans are in contact with aliens from another planet. is it your opinion that bizarre people (and the psychological processes that let people misidentify and misreport their experiences) are randomly polled only when the topic is aliens? by your logic this 1.2 million would be a “conservative estimate”, right, because who wants to look like they’re insane?

          the problem is not with survey measures per se. it is with any imperfect classification of a rare event. survey measures with high accuracy can yield reasonable estimates for events of higher frequency. by the same token, a medical test with high (e.g., 99%) accuracy for a rare condition will yield a massive number of false positives. people know this and use tests accordingly, yet no one (to my knowledge) refers to it as “radical skepticism” toward all medical tests.

          “There is, however, no evidence whatsoever that such massive misreporting did occur.” first, the misreporting need not be massive. what causes the problem is that (1) any misreporting tends to be false positives and (2) any false positives cause drastic overestimation. both of these are because the event is rare.

          BTW i support the right to own and carry a firearm, but that’s based on my value (and my perception of the prevalence of this value) that it’s wrong to take away people’s responsibility for their and their family’s safety.

          but still, that doesn’t alter the fact that these survey results are nothing more than a demonstration of what occurs when you use an imperfect measure to identify cases of an event with a low base rate.

          • Lin Chong

            There is no way that anyone can argue with your circular logic. Have fun in your little world…

          • mankouzanghua

            wow what a flame-out. please say what is circular about my logic.

            i’ve shown that people misreport about any topic you can imagine and that even a little misreporting leads to drastic overestimation for a rare event like this. which of these do you dispute, or am i supposed to suddenly believe you because you teach a graduate level class on how you can’t prove a negative?

            have fun in your world where 1.2 million americans are in communication with the aliens

  • E Puff

    Update on the beating: one of the boy’s father is on tv /news crying that the punishment is too severe. The dad was also a sheriff deputy for 30 years.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/dad-turned-son-filmed-beating-punishment-harsh/story?id=15426344

  • E Puff

    there are a lot of americans on blogs, social networking websites, and on youtube making angry videos about this beating — funny how americans are angry about the kid being beaten up while chinese netizens here have said that the kid deserves a beating for going to america. all seven, including the girl have been arrested. a few years ago 6 cheerleaders beat a girl badly and videotaped it. See the video here. That was five years ago. All of those teenagers are still in jail today. this one was hard to watch too because the girl was crying and begging:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D64OU_IC9h8

    • SuperHappyCow

      Sometimes comparing America to other countries makes me really proud. Hahah.

      Other times, not so much. ; )

  • Ron

    “WESLEY WU – grey hoodie, main kid attacking the man, deleted facebook. EASLEY WU – big puffy jackey with fur hood, blue striped adidas pants RAYMOND PALOMINO – white guy with no mask TODD RAMOS – grey and black hoodie JOHNNY LI – blue hoodie and blue snap back on DANNY HUI – dr”

    Chinese readers may not be familiar with the names of people in America, but Palomino and Ramos are NOT white. They are Hispanics.

  • Ron

    “So a Cantonese speaker becomes a ‘nigga’?”

    Those punks are gang members. That’s what they call everyone. They are trying to be disrespectful. I hope they go to jail, where a lot of prisoners will be very disrespectful to them.

  • DQD

    This is the kind of human filth you find in America. I am an American, and I have lived in China for 13 years, and I have always been treated with kindness and respect. It shames me to see this! I’ve noticed that some Chinese people say that this boy deserves what he got simply because he might be the child of a “corrupt official”. No matter whose son he is, he doesn’t deserves what I just saw in this video. American civilization, if there ever was such a thing, is in rapid decline. If I were a Chinese parent, I would think very hard before sending my child to such an uncivilized country. When I was a boy, if there was a problem between two people, and words failed, a fight was inevitable, but we were taught that it had to be a fair fight: one-on-one. “Ganging up” was considered immoral and cowardly. I cannot stress how revolted I feel right now. I feel such shame.

    • Deepzen

      Oh Jesus Christ man get ahold of yourself. ” feel such shame”??? WTF were you one of the kids handing out the beatdown? Was one of the kids yours? It’s just a beating. No one died. American civilization is no better or worse for this shit than for Jerry Springer. Yes ganging up is cowardly, but most kids ARE cowardly. You’re overreacting as much as the Chinese…

      • DQD

        Maybe shamelessness is part of the problem in America. Furthermore, I don’t believe I’m overreacting. I think a feeling of shame and disgust is an appropriate response.

      • Johnson

        First off what is with all of the foreign devil, laowai, white comments? Half of those kids were wearing masks, and probably not all white. It would surprise the shit out of you idiots if three turned out to Chinese themselves wouldn’t it?

        Seriously you are crying about this? This is tame in comparison to what happens on a regular basis in big cities in the States. There were no weapons, it lasted 3 minutes and they went easy on his head. The kid’s ethnicity probably had nothing to do with it (they weren’t shouting any racial outside the cliched trying to be street “nigga”) -he was alone and looked weak period.

        And for those who said he needs to learn self-defense – come on now, there were six people. Everyone takes a good ass-whooping in their life, this kid took one and didn’t give up his bag. Hat’s off to him (and he’ll live)

  • sf_fridae

    Most of the bullies beating up this Chinese guy were also Chinese too. There were only two Non Asians involved in this incident.

  • http://thebinaryboy.blogspot.com Mark

    I live in America and I am ashamed of these horrible teenagers. They are the trash of America. Please do not judge Americans based on the actions of a few. Every country has violence and horrible people, but this is not common in the USA. This type of violence happens almost exclusively in big cities, like Chicago, New York, LA. In 95% of the US, this would never happen.

    These teenagers are shaming their families and country. They should be punished severely, and chances are that they will be in time. Sometimes it takes a while, but these kind of criminals are usually found out.

    I have many friends from China who study here in Ohio. In the past three years, several Chinese students have died in terrible car accidents. I makes me very angry and sad to see any harm come to these students who come to America to study. This is one reason I began serving as a host friend to some Chinese students, 3 years ago.

    I dont know if these asian student is American or foreigner, but watching this video hurts my heart badly. If I was there, I would have come to his defense. No one should be treated this way. I only hope that he will fully recover from his injuries and that he will not judge all of America, or Americans by the actions of these evil teenagers.

    We, as a society (in US and in China) should not allow this kind of violence on any person. If we just stand up against it, we will prevail. There are many more decent people in our countries than there are evil thugs like these. But we must be courageous enough to stand up to them and stop them.

    If the young man in this video reads these comments, please understand that most people find this to be incredibly intolerable. And many of us would have stepped in to help him. On behalf of the US, I can only tell him how sorry I am and I hope he can prevail against these evil actions. I hope and pray that this experience can be used to make him a better person and that it will serve a larger purpose in his life.

  • AshLikeSnow

    What is up with this assumption that this guy is the son of a civil servant. The vast majority of Chinese living in america are not even wealthy, let alone government officials.

    Most of them immigrated to the US with very little money and looking for a better life – not because they are filthy rich.

    Don’t know if the Chinese have ever heard to the “California gold rush” or the “continental railway.”
    Or if they know that ALOT of Taiwanese came over in the last 3-4 decades. OR about the refugees from the cultural revolution.

    • Takeru

      Very true – only few live in the US long time and became doctors or lawyers – they worked hard for it ! No reason to bash their kids for their own failure !

  • thamar

    Poor guy as it happens in every place as senseless crime exists everywhere no one here can deny. Just hope we don’t sell out our intellect and start blaming fingers on racist issues, blah, blah, blah….There should be a follow-up report on how he is being treated after the incident. I bet allot are showing him love and sympathy despite what the evil kids had done…oh yes, remember they will never report the good deeds.

  • AG

    I love listening to you idiots calling us white people foreign devils.

    I have lived in china for 7 years and I can honestly say that i Have never met a country that treats its own like such garbage.
    GOvernment destroying homes at will, people push elderly to get a seat on the subway.
    Its disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    • Takeru

      A friend of mine who studied in China – she is Japanese like me – confirmed that . but this is no reason act like them , too , right ?

    • http://youhaeseriousissues.com Capt. WED

      I’ve seen and have participated in giving up seats to the elderly.

      Government destroying homes at will… not really, people do get paid it’s not all forced. For the cases where it’s forced they are things called imminent domain in other places which I can point to.

    • Uncle Sam

      Sir, I have seen those same things in the US with out question. For all we hate about each other, we find the same in ourselves. Probably why this site is so popular.

  • Moe

    Come on guy! In mot American nor European, but a foreigner. Stop pointing fingers without even knowing where these kids from. Half of them are Asians for god’s sake and you started smashing foreigners in china. Where is this hatred coming from???? Millions of Chinese live abroad, you can’t just start disrespecting foreigners in china!! God gave u a brain, use it wisely. You hurt someone here & probably 100′s of Chinese overseas are gonna hurt after it

    • mindful utterance

      You are correct in your analysis. I read over this blog from time to time and I felt I have to comment. Firstly, I am an American of German and Irish decent and I here a lot of you who blamed white people and America for this video and not human nature itself. Now, I understand that people are tribal by nature and whenever China and America are mentioned, it automatically turns into a penis measuring contest.(Pardon the Pun) Look, I have respect for these Chinese culture and it’s people. It has been one of few cultures I enjoy read about and study. I especially enjoyed The Importance of Living by Lin Yutang. Given all the stereotypes about whites and Americans, I want to say that in an instant I would stick up for a Chinese citizen being bullied or jumped in my presence. That’s the thing, I am loyal to my principles/morals and not blinded rabid nationalism. What is peculiar is that the opposite of all the stereotypes about Americans. I have multiple degrees in hard science and I am in stellar physical shape. But alas, as the brilliant “E Puff” phrased it I am nothing more than a “cracka ass cracka”.

  • Laurent Coq

    The MAJOR problem here is that 3 guys doing the beating are actually CHINESE.

  • Sumnigga

    Face can be seen, would be easy to find out who the rest are. Just give them REAL jail time. This time they just beat someone up, next time they will kill. Better give them lengthy jail sentences.

  • http://thebinaryboy.blogspot.com Mark

    Amen. Thumbs up!

  • Hyona

    I think this is disgusting and so cowardly by these low lifes to attack and robb this poor guy. They are pathetic and incredibly unintelligent by being 7 against 1 and also filming the event, I hope that everyone of those boys gets their punishment and all I can say about their future is that they will probably be in jail or something. I have never experienced anything like this in my home country but there is bad people everywhere and there will always be like that whether you like it or not.
    I hope that the victim gets well and know that he is so much better than these punks.

  • O.R. Gazm

    What’s the other side of this story?

    Maybe this Chinese dude sold those kids some fake Iphone or ShanZhai rolex watch, shoes, bags wallets…

  • Uncle Sam

    Its sad that I as I read the comments I am reminded that the ignorance of one can only breed ignorance in others.

    Racism has been obstacle we have fought to over come in our country since our founding. A fight we still struggle with today.

    I hope these bullies pay dearly for not only what the have done, but the cycle of hate that continues from it.

    And shame on every American white and black who are both acting like idiots on here. No wonder the world thinks we are ignorant. We only act like it every chance we get. This isn’t about our prejudices against each other, it is about the how it is so pathetic that our internal hate spills over on others.

    That makes us both look pathetic and neither is making an honest effort to end it.

  • Jeff

    That Chinese kid got owned! he should be lucky they werent blacks robbing him cause they would have gang raped that boy

  • Big J

    Wow there are some ridiculous comments on this board.

    The other kids weren’t all white for the record, so the white comments are null.

    Did some jack-ass actually try to equate this to the US military invasion of Iraq? Not even going to begin to point out why that is asinine.

    People have also suddenly taken to talking about black people: These kids are in Chicago, a city with a tradition of gangs. Beat downs are not a black thing, they’re a gang thing – white gangs have been doing this in Chicago since the turn of the century. Hopefully that curbs the racist talk (I do like the capital B in black though not in white)

    Only in America do you see this type of filth? People are stoned and beheaded in the Middle East, gang rapes happen daily in Sub-Saharn Africa, and drug wars have left over 30,000 people dead in Mexico. Think before you write yeah?

  • MadeInChina

    So if i wear red & a pair of jordans. i’m a nigga too?

  • MAX

    I SWEAR TO GOD I CAN KICK THEIR ASSES

    SONS OF BITCHES

  • Marlon

    this is fucked up. fighting shouldn’t occur in any school. that kid goes to school to learn and become a dignified citizen. I don’t even like asian people, in fact i despise them(time in prison)(Canada) but kids shouldn’t have to deal with bullshit like that especially when, from a first glance, he seems like one of the good ones. and the worst part is because they didn’t kill him and because of their age even if the police succesfully capture the trash they won’t end up doing much time or even getting help with their(evident) mental illnesses

  • Dconn

    This happens to alot many teens in Chicago, not just Asian. It happened to me too. Its just Chicago. tough break kid,he’ll be ok

  • ace

    美国人看这样的事情也不高兴。警察已经有抓到他们了。听说多半是亚洲人。

    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&forum=2&thread=1940750&page=2

  • GodsHammer

    I just read this and all I can say is, wow…a bunch of FOBs beat up another FOB in retaliation for another pack beating….that said FOB victim was allegedly a perp in…and we the CS commenters end up angry about American blacks? You are all such hopeless self hating, complex nurturing bunch of pantywaist, nancyboy faggots. No matter what topic is on the chopping block, finding a way to bring your fear of black people into the picture somehow…fucking pathetic.

    • carmouflagger

      Word!

  • kodi

    Thats totally uncool and the bullies should be placed into reform school

  • Jay

    Coming from someone who use to be pick on it highly angers me to see these things. The torment one endures when place in such situations is horrifying! I wish he did know a little Chinese kungfu! to put those ” ” in place! These kind of people are truly trash and heartless!

  • itsmedogg

    he we go again, just another piece of shit story used to fuel the 五毛党 and fan the 分清. What they don’t bother to comment on is the following:
    1. The crime was solved because one of the kid’s parents turned in his own son. I get a load of that EVER happening in China. Being wrong is not nearly as horrible a crime as being against a “compatriot”. And turning in a family member? Fahgettaboutit.
    2. The kid was getting was just getting payback for Beef he started anyway. No one mentioned that he and 19 of his friends jumped 2 people from a rival clique.
    3. All but 1 of the people attacking this kid are Chinese. And guess which kid is the only one doing any time in jail? The white kid. The rest all got released as juveniles. Who says there’s no justice.
    4. Coming from New York Chinatown, where almost everyone I knew was in one Chinese gang or another, this is like everyday stuff. Chinese people on the mainland think the world is one big conspiracy against them. Wait to you buy your study abroad visa or immigrate via financial investment and find out the people you have to worry about the most are your fellow 同胞!I dont expect anyone would want to shed light on those facts and risk losing great fodder for the displaced nationalist self-resentment that passes for “patriotism” here these days. For the Chinese who really love their homeland for the right reasons and believe in the rule of law being blind, I will always stand with you. The rest of you, go fuck yourselves.

  • david

    I am not afraid of kung fu. i would be more concerned that if I used it against these punks that one would pull out a gat and click/boom.

  • Fucker

    lol China

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