Local Government Official Beats Woman in Front of Her Child

A local deputy secretary in a town in Shandong province is caught on video manhandling and kicking a woman in front of her 3-year-old child.

The video below accumulated over 1.3m views within a day of it being posted online…

From QQ:

Shandong Binzhou Woman Beaten by Deputy Secretary for Picking Flowers in the Town Government Courtyard

A woman in Shandong province surnamed Zhang had picked Chinese roses from the courtyard of the Botou Town government building. When this was discovered by personnel of the the town government, she was to be fined 1,000 yuan for the “crime” of damaging public facilities. Zhang thought this was completely unreasonable and refused to pay the fine. So, the town government cut the electricity for both Zhang’s store and the surrounding stores. To avoid her neighbors being affected, Zhang then paid the fine. But on September 9, two young ladies were again found picking flowers in the town government courtyard, and were similarly fined 1,000 yuan each. However, these two ladies were extremely upset about the punishment, and when the Botou Town government workers thought it was the previously fined Zhang inciting them, they once again cut off the electricity for Zhang and her neighbours’ shops. Zhang did not understand what the town government did, so she brought her child to the town government “seeking an explanation”, only for the scene in the video to occur.

Comments from QQ:

无法改变:

So this is the so-called serving the people?? So these are our parent-like government officials [officials who care for the people as parents would take care of their children]?? So this is our modern local government?? May I ask: Are you the local government?? Or are you local gangsters??

红塔山:

Truly losing face for the Communist Party!!! Can [our country] use an official like this???

烈焰星神盖亚:

First of all, a man hitting a woman is already shameful, much less a local official that’s supposed to care for the people as parents care for children. Is this kind of person qualified [for the position]?

亚当斯:

A bunch of big men, even well-dressed big men, beating up a young woman–just what kind of society is this?!

铭宏洋科技:

Where the hell is the woman’s husband? Does this deputy secretary want to go to hell?

夏末秋凉╮淡抹了谁的年华:

And there’s even such a little kid nearby, how can they beat his mother right in front of the kid’s face~ So outrageous~ Is this even human? How would you feel if you were beaten up in front of your kids? What would the kids think~ Bastards~ I strongly demand that he be removed from office~ Let’s see how arrogant he is then~ What is there that can’t be dealt with reasonably with words? With an ordinary commoner, you need to patiently and properly explain things, because not all people are like you~

百事可乐:

The more I watch this video, the angrier I get. Everyone find out where the guy who is doing the beating lives!! And then beat him to death!!

貴族ヤ潮流、:

Sigh!!! How come people like this don’t go [or aren’t sent] to Diaoyu Islands? What a talent!!!

萧崁枫纭:

There are only too many civil servants like this, nothing to be surprised about. Too many.

蓝色火焰:

Relax, her son will avenge her in the future… in what way though??? Everybody guess.

追夢┉ゥ:

Getting paid with the people’s hard-earned money yet doing this kind of thing. He’s not human. He doesn’t even know who are the ones feeding him, and I bet he’s nothing good at home either.

何去何从:

Is patriotism about loving these bastards? Why should we be patriotic then?

所见的、都是皮毛:

Must remember this dog. If I was your husband, I’d definitely hack him to death.

伊爱源:

Even if the woman is in the wrong, there’s no need to beat her. As a leader, is this the quality of character you have? Even if this video was made intentionally to give you trouble, there still has to be someone willing to be duped. If you had just a bit of good character, you wouldn’t have people trying to give you trouble anyway. I hope our country will severely punish this kind of government leader.

冷月寒心:

Animal, bastard, garbage, what kind of people’s servant is this! Doesn’t even deserve to be human!

Comments from Sina Weibo:

曹要瘦:

Fuck. Is this secretary still human! Human flesh search him and ruin him! His behavior is just like the smiling director and the committee member who beat up the airline stewardess!

RoBoTiCa:

Aren’t all Party secretaries like this? Other than bullying the ordinary common people, do you expect them to go to the Diaoyu Islands to protest?

v5-李李举个栗子:

Hurry and go to war. Fuck, none of us want war, us ordinary commoners all want peace, but I really wish for war, to reshuffle [the state of things in China, start again]. Even losing is fun, because fucking at least these scumbags won’t have it well either. We can’t punish with them while we’re alive, so let the artillery shells without eyes kill these scum. To hell with the slogan on TV saying they [government officials] are the sons of the people, [they’re just] animals.

清风明月无人疼:

That flying-kick had some skill to it! It’s a shame it wasn’t a kick at the Japanese but instead our own compatriots!! This kind of person should be exiled to the Diaoyu Islands! I trust when the Japanese sees that, they’ll no longer want to contest [us for the islands].

普青小Joe:

There’s no sound, what was said at the time, does anyone care? Everybody gets angry as soon as they heard it’s about officials.

菲菲飞兔:

This is how people’s trust in the government is destroyed. It wasn’t a coincidence that this was filmed, but the fact that a person who’s capable of this can become a party secretary is worth thinking about.

yply678:

[怒骂] These Communist officials are animals dressed in human form, beating up a mother in front of her three-year-old kid as soon as they stepped out of the door, and then continuously going after her and beating her even when there was no resistance or threats. What they did is horrible, unforgivable, and deserving of death! May the Sina webmaster who dares delete this weibo post and this video get retribution and a horrible death!

阿弋2009:

Game over for yet another stupid cunt of a deputy party secretary. Seeing him reminds me of the evil tyrants and landlords of the evil Old Society [feudal or pre-Communist Revolution China].

盐汽水:

If the Chinese People’s Liberation Army were as gei li [bold] as this, and if the Chinese government were as gei li as this when dealing with foreign countries, would we still have any fear being unable to reclaim the Diaoyu Islands? The pity is, like Iraq and Libya, this government that seems so gei li towards its domestic affairs are soft balls [wimps, useless] when it comes to foreign countries.

秦瑜明:

Using violence in front of children! Can one not be an official unless one is inhuman? Must a person become a beast when they become a government official?! How did this fertile land become increasingly barren, with more and more weeds and pests out to swallow up everything!

The deputy secretary is kicking the woman.

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  • BigJ

    Don’t pick flowers around here bitch!!!! hahah
    sofa?

    • Rick in China

      I’m totally against guys hitting girls, but yeh – don’t pick the flowers bitch. Have to be pretty fucking stupid to go to a gov’t facility and pick their roses, WTF? In ANY country.

      • BigJ

        Yeah but what other country would resort to violence against a little woman for the same crime? Even if a man was beat for the same crime…it’s still fucked up…well this woman will be in re-education for sure.

        • Rob

          True, in the US they’d just have them arrested, fined, and then sent off to the rape room… i mean prison for a while. No reason to dirty your own hands in that matter.

          • Vorteksio3 .

            Shut the fuck up, you imbecile.

        • Actually, quite a lot of countries would. Arrogant officials who think they can get away with anything exist in much of the world.

          • Muay Thai guy

            Haha, I truly wonder in what shitholes you’ve been, but in much of the civilised world they would simply replant some flowers and maybe give a verbal warning.

          • You know, your “civilized world” includes just a small part of the actual world.
            I will tell you two countries I have been to, where the officials are just as bad: India and Egypt.

      • linette

        What is this thing about China people always destroying plants. Like the china tourists go to Taiwan botanical garden and they are stepping and climbing on plants killing them even though there is a big sign saying keep off from the plants. It’s not your plant so stop touching it. Go buy your own plants. It’s like common sense. They are indeed a very strange species.

        The big men shouldn’t hit the woman. If she is verbally abusive and screaming non stop just handcuff her and take her back to police station for report. In uSA the police throw you on the ground if you don’t cooperate and handcuff you. China gov’t indeed don’t follow procedures.

        • Rick in China

          I saw a video recently of 2 cops pulling a woman over for talking on her cell phone, she was angry about it – they were putting her in the back of their police car and she started to resist a bit. They body slammed her – twice, half suplex. Afterwards, they fist bumped.

          • Rick in China

            My bad, the video was in the US..yes, you’re right re: “throw you on the ground and cuff you”

        • Jin

          in usa if you dont co-operate, you get to feel taser therapy. Then cuffed, fined and then jail

          • markx

            Saw a video of some English cops arresting a very uncooperative guy; they dragged him over to a grassy patch before heaving him to the ground and cuffing him. Very gentlemanly indeed.

            In the US, they drag you to the gravel or asphalt road before they hurl you to the ground. Then as many big cops as possible pile on, taking special care to grind your face into the road. Blood flow and removal of teeth apparently gets bonus points.

            There is no need to resist if you happen to desire this treatment; should cuffing be deemed necessary the ‘softening up procedure’ as described above is now already standard practice.

      • patko

        There is always going to be that one scumbag that will try to justify shit like this. You are that scumbag now, good job sir. People who are not in connection with reality make such statements.

        Picking flower, getting kicked, hmm very reasonable indeed. In a neurotic mind.

        • Boris

          Flowers, my arse! She was trying to flog them a copy of The Watchtower. Fucking Jehovahs Witnesses. The bitch got off lightly!

          • C.

            first time i lol’d at a cS comment, a golden star for you.

        • She should have paid the fine as it was destruction of property. She’s destroying plants. So she was definitely in the wrong. It doesn’t excuse his violent behavior afterwards, and no one suggested that it did.

          • mormollio

            She did pay the fine, but two other women came to pick flowers and the officials assumed it was her making them to do it. So they cut of her power again, she was there to ask for an explanation and got her ass beat.

            Personally I do believe you should leave other ppls flowers and gardens alone, but it’s a flower. Those officials couldn’t give a damn about that flower, they were just being ass holes.

      • Shanghairen

        Rick, you really got right to the main point of the story here. I didn’t even watch the video–reading about the rose picking really pissed me off.

    • Cooljackal

      I think according to the article, she didn’t pick them the second time. The government thought it was her. So it would seem that she did learn her lesson.

    • jiayi

      It’s considered rude to be a woman in China.

      • TEM

        Korea too (N and S), as well as throughout the Middle East.

        • XiaoHei

          You have no clue about the Middle East, do you? On a housewife level, maybe women have it bad. On a public level, women can slap the crap out of you on the street for no reason other than staring and they will get all the support they need. I live here!

          • Capt. WED

            yeah like how sexual harassment is high as fuck in Egypt Amrite ;)

            Chinasmack: a place where you can go and be racist and shit.

          • XiaoHei

            Egypt is considered a part of ‘Africa’ dude. I specifically meant the GCC countries where I stay and which is the proper ‘Middle East’ for many. Consider this…(woman here applies to a citizen in one of the GCC countries)
            1. If you are a woman here you need not stand in a queue
            2. If you are a woman you shouldn’t stand in a public transport bus. A man has to vacate his seat for you
            3. Free education forever, even education abroad. All sponsored by the government
            4. If you are a woman you can tint your car windows as black as you need
            5. And many more benefits…

  • eattot

    i look down and dislike most of men….as i always said, i would like to be a robot…
    my soul mate is a guy not interested in girls at all,and he is my classmate still a virgin.pure like a fairy…

    • Bob Loblaw

      Your soulmate is Edward Cullen ?

      • Xiongmao

        Go back to your law blog dude.

    • Bo Xilai For Emperor

      LOL Whaatt???!!!!

    • Cooljackal

      Your comment is very much like all those standard emo chinese girl status updates you see on qq.

      • eddie9684

        second that, expressing deep emotions in QQ chinese style FTL

    • Aituo

      Hahaha FRIENDZONED!!

    • eattot

      men make the world dirty…

      • Nanny Hiccups

        90% of all murders in this world are committed by men. THey should be caged, their sperm harvested for reproduction purposes.

        • Cooljackal

          “Don’t argue! You cannot win, you cannot beat a woman in a arguement. It’s impossble you will not win. Cause men, we are handicapped when it comes to arguing cause we have a need to make sense”

          -Chris Rock

          • lonetrey

            -snort
            AHAHAhahaha, what a succinct summation of my thoughts on this.

        • the ace of books

          um

          uh

          uuuhhhhh

          wh-

          ….I just don’t think there’s anything you can say to that. And here I was thinking Andrea Dworkin had gone out of style.

          • Yesway

            It had.

            Until a very vocal group in the US started bashing women at every turn, creating laws that are increasingly creeping women out.

            That’s why feminism is reviving now.

        • moop

          yeah, and how many of those murderer were raised by women???

          • Yesway

            Daughters get raised by mothers too.

          • moop

            yeah, and those daughters apparently raise murderers. hurrrrrrr. my comment was not a serious one. men are genetically predisposed to aggressive behavior and naturally have more strength, it makes sense that most murders are committed by men if you take all of nanny’s loathsome sentiment out of it. what is not needed is this kind of collectivist ideology that most mouth-breathers seem to hold to. racism and nationalism all have their roots in collectivism, its the same kind of thinking used my misogynists and feminists alike

          • Yesway

            Looking forward to seeing someone pointing out women do stupid things because they were raised by their fathers.

          • moop

            how many children of divorce are raised by fathers (not many considering the current legal situation)? how many families are there where the father works and doesnt spend time raising their children? most children arent raised by fathers. men do a lot of stupid things and women do a lot of stupid things. men’s aggressiveness and women being too emotional are the basis for most of the stupid things men and women do or say.

          • Yesway

            If you put it that way, you can also blame fathers for not raising them. Many women work while at the same time taking care of the family, yet get blamed solely for what their kids turn out as.

            You make a good point in the end, though I would add that aggressiveness stems as much from emotions as tears do.

          • linette

            It’s a medical fact that men have a lot more testosterone than women, and one of the effect of testosterone is aggression. Testosterone also heighten sex drive. It effect not only phsically like thicking of bones and more muscle mass, also effect their brain psycologically.

          • mr. wiener

            If women ran the world we’d have a war at least once a month, but only for a few days.

          • Rod

            …and then peace rallies afterwards, with lots of puppies and hugs and talk about how beautiful you are and how I wish I could be as pretty as you.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Nice try. A penis is the one thing majority of murders have in common since the beginnng of time. Women, we create life, men – they destroy it. Unless you threaten to abort their offspring. They don’t care about offspring of course, just the wasted sperm that created the life.

          • BigJ

            Wow Nanny….Some guy must have really hurt you in the past to think like that. Did some guy get you pregnant and leave you? or cheat on you or something?Gay woman will sometimes talk like that. I don’t mean to sound like a dick, i’m just trying to find out why the hate. I understand men do crazy shit from time to time…men and woman are different in many ways. You should not hate the differences but try to understand them. I don’t hate a dog for barking, I may dislike it barking all the time…but I understand it’s in it’s nature to do so.I don’t like a lot of things woman do, but I still love them, Even the ugly as shit ones ;)

          • linette

            ………..If women ran the world we’d have a war at least once a month, but only for a few days…………..

            hahhaha…lol. You are so crazy. Yes, and sometimes it comes late, and sometimes it comes early. It’s totally unpredictable.

        • cc

          yuo can harvest my sperm with your mouth any time.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            @cc – I volunteer your mother for this duty.

          • cc

            Thats ok, you get sloppy seconds though.

        • jeffli

          @nanny hiccups
          +++THey should be caged, their sperm harvested for reproduction purposes. ++++

          I just come back from a harrowing experience getting TCM massage…the masseuse tried to milk me and I hadn’t killed any one yet! lol ;-|

          [but I would like to know who I have to kill for a decent BJ!]
          roflmao

          • CND Icehole

            Tubby, white Canadian girls give the best head. They are all amazing at it. Hit any bar in any city or small town and any province or territory there and mingle with the hippo-chicks. They are fucking awesome. Smart, funny, and totally playful. Best suck you will ever have.

          • Efe the foreigner

            i second what CND Icehole just said. i am from michigan, but have been sucked by a white and “big-boned” canadian chick. and it was glorious. after, we got high and watched trailer park boys. i secretly loved her …….

        • mr. wiener

          And women should be confined to homes and only allowed out wearing burkas? I don’t think it would fix anything

          • Nanny Hiccups

            The burka thing is why all men must be conquered and systematically destroyed for a female dominated world until, we can change the way they think, and perhaps use science to lower their testosterone producing capabilities. Say no to war!

          • Cooljackal

            Nanny,

            Have you ever worked with or in a group of mostly high-powered female professionals? I mean a group of men can be mean to each other but a group of women can be vicious! Especially in the corporate world where a power structure exists. And you want THAT to be the norm? A world power structure like that with all women?

            There is no reason to think things would be much different in a female dominated world. The best thing is to have a balance, like everything else in life.

          • mr. wiener

            Nanny I know you are just trolling. Surely you are not suggesting your 2 sons should be locked up and milked for their seminal fluids? ….That is unless you have already?….Does anyone have that number for child services?

          • Kodi

            If women could somehow be given the same power men have or at least an equalizer (weapon of some sort) to vaporize an offender on the spot, then I think everything would change for the better.

            How often do you hear about women going on a rampage and killing people? How often do women incite war or violence? When a woman kills her husband or any man its usually because that man has scarred her by means of rape and intimidation. I think we need to evolve in this world an learn how to protect the integrity of womens suffrage.

          • Efe the foreigner

            let the stoning commence

        • I knew you were a Hilary Clinton supporter!!!

          • Nanny Hiccups

            i have an iron uterus that cannot be inseminated by a mere man.

          • BigJ

            “i have an iron uterus that cannot be inseminated by a mere man.”

            So what animal got you pregnant the first time??? :)

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Animal? ew beastiality. Only a man would come up with something that gross :o)

            It’s easy to penetrate a girl. But now, I am super woman! It takes a certain invincible man for me and most are weak! :D

          • donscarletti

            I think younger girls get penetrated more often because men are willing to put in far more effort to do so.

            It’s an evolutionary numbers game. Having an uninseminatable iron uterus is common amongst older women, as is genetic mutation (downs syndrome, etc). Males are most likely to expend more effort to court a mate that will concieve and bear healthier offspring.

          • mr. wiener

            Nanny says:
            “i have an iron uterus that cannot be inseminated by a mere man.”
            mr. wiener says:
            …..Beware of the man with a dick of depleted uranium.

        • markx

          I bags inseminating nanny…..

        • Nanny Hiccups

          Hey big j, I don’t hate men at all. I even have a boyfriend. Or two.

          • BigJ

            That’s good, just from some of your comments I got the impression you pretty much hated everything with a dick.:)

          • Jin

            Nanny Hiccups looks like it would have a dick..the thing is just obese

          • Nanny Hiccups

            dick is good. just the rest attached to it hehe

          • BigJ

            It’s started to become clear to me now, Comments like Jin makes make you think the way you do. :) I understand now. :)

          • fenqing basher

            @big j

            Are you honestly trying to understand that frustraded aged angry at the rest of the world chick?
            She is the typical example of those “how to blame men for my f%#$ up live” blitches
            Now, since she started aging, not getting the attention she used to in bars and clubs, thus spending her evenings posting in the web while the kids eat pizza and watch Tv. Boring dont waste your time

          • BigJ

            fenqing basher
            Haahha , yeah man I see chicks like everyday,but if I had to pick sides between her and Jin….well she would win.

        • TEM

          I’ve seen so much bad shit from men (well ofc from women too, but not as much) that if caging all the men up would solve the world’s problems I wouldn’t mind being caged up. Like lock me up now.

          However it would really screw up the world, which is why men like me exist to shut up women like you who don’t think before they speak.

          Some food for thought – Who raised those evil men like that? Their fathers AND oh so right mothers.

        • Jon

          You want to harvest the sperm of murderers for reproductive purposes?

          Or did you mean all men should be caged for the actions of a few? In that case, feel free to harvest mine with your mouth.

        • fenqing basher

          What all murders have in common is a wired mother, mom not spending time with them instead hanging out in the net and bars.

        • Pete of Perth

          Song for the day

      • cc

        My offer of squirting hot jizz all over your boat still stands.

        • My dear, your image here is disgusting. Does chinasmack do any moderation here?

          • cc

            It is the image of the most beautiful and useful part of the female anatomy. Obviously there is no need for a prude like you in this world.

          • Rod

            Wut… I thought it was a leaf.

          • cc

            Sheltered lives the pair of you

          • TEM

            I thought twas a dried pear. But now that I zoom in

          • Efe the foreigner

            cc is a poetic vagina, i dick your style baby

        • eattot

          why fucker as u do not tatoo a dick on ur face, it what should be inside your brain and face.

          • moop

            haha, priceless

          • cc

            eattot baby, come on lets get it together, a new avatar picture of you with my jizz dripping off your nose. oooooh i’m getting all tingly just thinking about it.

          • cc

            oooooooooeerrrrrrr

      • emerald

        “Women does that too….”

    • BigJ

      So your soul mate is homosexual chinese guy??? And why do you want to be a robot??? hahahahah

      • eattot

        he is not….i know him.

        • BigJ

          Then what is his reason for not being interested in woman?

        • kaka

          So what you’re saying is:

          “My overtly camp male friend, who has no interest in women sexually, but is definitely not gay – because I know him, but is really well informed about make-up, fashion, and all my favourite male pop-stars – is my ideal husband because in an attempt to make sure that I fit in with the social ideal of chastity, my father, despite his many affairs, generally low opinion of women, and weekly trip to KTV on “business”, made sure that I see sex as something dirty, unless it is within marriage and for the sole purpose of making babies – which has left me with a fear of any male who wants to stick his penis anywhere near me before he has bought me a ring and an apartment.

          … because a man wanting to have sex with a women is not a generic imperative in any way… you might as well say all men are dirty because they breath, or eat….

          All parents fuck up their kids, but at least they could do it with a little nuance…

          • eattot

            fuck off!
            u think good chinese men are so sick as white. either fucker or guy?
            my friend is definitly not gay,he goes travle often,running and biking often,never speak or behave like a sissy.
            my father besides bad temper,no other bad.fuck off!

          • Irvin

            gay gay gay gay gay

          • eattot

            gay!

          • Middle Kingdum

            Is this eattot for real? Her friend can’t be gay because he travels, runs, and bikes, not like a “sissy”. LOL

            What a moron.

          • BigJ

            “my friend is definitly not gay,he goes travle often,running and biking often”

            Thanks for letting us know that gay people don’t travel, run or ride a bike.

            HAHAHAHA I guess the lesson to be learned here is guys who just walk are homosexuals. I guess I should watch my “back” next time a guy is just walking behind me. :) He must be up to no good:)

          • Jahar

            That’s awesome. Traveling, running, and cycling is definitive proof of non-gayness. So how do all those guys in the gay club get in good shape?

            Also, behaving like a sissy. I know a higher percentage of straight chinese sissies than gay white sissies. I think.

          • jeffli

            So Whats wrong with gay any way?
            Even gay or not wtf is it to you? you bunch of of teen hairy fairy white trash Tinkerbells!
            Yeah I’m checkin’ you out ‘sister’ Jahar (biatch) M K (twat)
            BigJ (lil’ balls) and Irvin (schmuck!).

            Puppy fuzz ball boys!

          • My little brother does all of that stuff and he’s still as gay as the night is long.

            If he’s really into staying fit but isn’t interested in women…seriously it does appear that he’s gay. Maybe he hasn’t realized it yet, but yeah…

          • C.

            Damn. I thought I was gay because I fuck men, but since I also travel I guess I’m straight.

          • kaka

            oh, sorry eattot, if I touched a nerve. I meant to, but I take no real pleasure in it.

            To be honest, I was just intrigued by your reaction to the fact that your friend sounded that he might be gay – repressed for sure, but still gay.

            I wanted to see whether your aversion was based on your knowledge about your friend, or a completely fucked up view about gay people based on zero knowledge or understanding – your notion that all gay people are physically unfit non-sportsmen with girly voices and mannerisms would suggest the latter… equal in it’s absurd rationality as is your opinion of “white men”.

            In your opinion, out of interest, which is worse; homosexuality or homophobia? No, don’t answer… the answer is clear…

            However, I’m more than willing to take your word for it, about your friend, and accept that despite spending what sounds like vast amounts of time with you, he simply doesn’t find you the remotest bit attractive sexually. That’s fine. To him, you’re just like anti-viagra.

            Although, not being homophobic myself, I can’t agree with your point about travel, running, biking, or sissy behaviour – most gay people I know tend to be pretty sporty, and very few speak or act like a “sissy”. So, I don’t think we can rule anything out about your friend at this stage… and if he is gay, hopefully one day he will feel comfortable enough to be himself… although given your reaction to the possibility – i can understand why he wouldn’t feel comfortable in doing so now.

          • Muay Thai guy

            Haha, nice one

    • The Enlightened One

      eattot, do you take drugs sometimes?

      • Bo Xilai For Emperor

        Angel dust plus some shrooms

        • 文志明

          I love your name :)

          • Bo Xilai For Emperor

            Thanks, isn’t he truly inspiring?

      • Jin

        she sniff glue and fatty handicap is just a hater

        • Yesway

          It really seems to bother some guys here that a woman tells you she likes a man that does not conform to what you think a man should be like. And some responses to it have been childish, not to mention lacking in originality.

          • Jin

            The world was just fine when women know their place and was kept in the kitchen and bedroom.

            Women are just gossipers and all they do is create issue and drama case in point Eatcock..i mean if this woman didn’t pick the flowers and then try be a hero this video wont have existed?.

          • Yesway

            Dream on: women only in the kitchen and bedroom? That has never happened. In the west the closest to that was in the fifties, but before that (and even during that decade) women worked anywhere from factories, farms, hospitals, schools, markets, to shops and work places.

            Interestingly, men who complain about women not being in their place are usually not good at competing with anyone (m/f) when it comes to their careers, so they try to cheat by attacking a group (women in this case).

            Confident, competent men never seem to feel the need to do this, because they can hold their own against women and other men.

          • Bo Xilai For Emperor

            @yesway: please go and read what eattot writes, she condones war and a corrupt autocratic gov’t, we didn’t diss her because she’s a woman, we diss her because her mind is in the cuckoo’s nest

          • Jin

            Eatmycock and Li Zongrui (aka Justin Lee) would make the perfect couple. Lets set them up on a blind date.

          • Yesway

            In several comments she gets solely dissed for her admiration for that guy and that was clearly what I responded too.

          • linette

            likes a man that does not conform to what you think a man should be like
            amen..;)

            For some reason in the the western culture
            male whore = manly. Male virgin = sissy. But when it comes to women they won’t hesitate to call her a whore if she sleeps around. What is wrong with their moral?

          • Bo Xilai For Emperor

            @yesway: Because every word eattot speaks sounds like Hitler screaming “sieg heil”

        • Rod

          Is she handicapped too?

          • Efe the foreigner

            allah willing

    • Poltergeist

      I hope eattot gets what she wants: a virgin stupid guy. Hopefully they will not produce children so that eattot is the last person polluting this planet with stupidity from her family tree.

      Then again, I am probably asking too much, because poor and uneducated people usually produce most of the children. Lost cause here…

      • linette

        Poltergeist, stop talking shxt. What’s wrong with people being virgin? Are you that sinful that you’ve lost your mind? Sleeping around like male whore is better than a male virgin who wants to save it for his future wife? You don’t know his situation so stop talking nonsense. Do not attack people like that.
        Let me tell you folks something. One thing that I admire about Asian culture is that the old tradition Chinese culture you keep your virginity for you spouse. This is something that’s nonexistence in western culture. It might sound strange to you nonasian. But it’s our traditional culture that we treasure virginity. If a male or female sleeps around we call them “used.”

        • Bob Loblaw

          “If a male or female sleeps around we call them “used.” ”

          Wich provokes a series of negative aftermaths.

          For example what you call “used persons” don’t have any other option than going after laowais to find love because their peers refuse to see them as eligible mates onced they “popped the cherry”.

          By the way you say “male or female”, but I would say mostly female virginity is concerned.

          It also creates a twisted vision of sexuality by putting social pressure into the equation in the same fashion our old judeo-christian vision of sex uses guilt to prevent young lads from enjoying their prime.

          So no, the worshipping of virginity is not exclusive to Asian culture it’s just that it’s mostly religious in other parts of the world. The success of the chinese-made artificial hymen in the arab world is another example.

          Now I don’t say we should all behave like bonobos but overprotecting one’s virginity is not healthy.

        • Nanny Hiccups

          i agree, it is good to save oneself for a spouse. this is why western culture have so many children out of wedlock.

          • Bob Loblaw

            Then what about divorce ? Given that nearly one third of marriages will end-up in a divorce, is it really worth it to wait ’til the wedding ?

            “Thou shalt make love with someone you love once you’re still young, simple as that.” It should be in the Bible.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Most marriages in AMERICA ends in divorce because Americans don’t try hard enough to keep their families together. The guys think they are young enough to get someone younger and prettier and the women feel they are better off by themselves.

            China doesn’t have a divorce problem. Their divorce rate is very low. :)

          • Xiongmao

            Marriage is an institution imposed by the government and the religious. My brother and plenty of my friends live with their SO and have children without being married, and lo and behold, the world is still turning.

          • moop

            most marriages end in divorce in america because divorce and custody laws overwhelmingly favor women, its women who arent willing to work things out, it is women who initiate divorce most of the time. this is an indisputable fact. of course then you have places like china, where women are trapped by their own legal system and society and have no real incentive to get out of bad marriages and stay in them so they can maintain their financial situation and not lose face.

          • Shit nanny….you’re just trolling again or just plain ignorant. China now has more divorces every year than marriages and is increasing all the the time. http://www.echinacities.com/china-media/china-s-marriage-crisis-5000-divorces-a-day.html

            Anyway….this is a really old story. I saw this on China rant blogs at least 5 years ago and have to wonder why they would regurgitate this news-worthy event.

          • Jin

            The reason why divorce rate in China is low due to women knowing their place. They cook, clean and shut their mouth when the men is around something clearly western women have not been educated to be. This video just prove what happen when a woman try to rebel she clearly got thought a lesson in woman manners.

          • Middle Kingdum

            I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or if you’re just stupid, but plenty of Chinese marriages end in divorce. Especially in the last five years.

          • Ooooops! I have confused this with a similar story that happened several years ago where a woman was killed by some rich fuck hotel owner because her toddler picked a few flowers in the lobby. (If I recall, he got off, scot-free)

            My bad.

          • Jin

            save any Chinese kids and PR yourself as a hero lately?

          • Whoa Jin! You’re a real macho man. Maybe we can convince Fauna to give you your own advice column.

          • Nah…..just the one kid, so far.

            Paid anybody to take a shit in your mouth lately, Jin?

          • sonny

            okay, let’s take a time out and look at the facts…

            crude divorce rate:
            USA (2010): 3.57
            ten year trend: steady decline

            China (2011): 2.13
            ten year trend: sharp increase

            as usual, both countries are pretty much in the same boat — likely to be identical by the end of the decade.

            my personal opinion, china and the us are more alike than different. anyone else agree?

            sources:
            http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/marriage_divorce_tables.htm
            http://www.stats.gov.cn/english/pressrelease/t20120120_402787463.htm
            http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-06/21/content_15517559.htm

            *crude divorce rate = # of divorces divided by population times 1000.

          • grovesman

            Nanny – The divorce rate in China is exploding. Divorce rates in Shanghai and Chengdu, for example, are in the high 40’s percentile.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Moop, for the first time we agree on something. Yes, western women have no real incentive to work things out. If the guy is a douchebag we have every reason to leave, and take our children with us, while collecting his money. That’s what I did. Never had to look at his stupid face and had the benefit of still being financially supported IN addition to making my own money. He got the shorter end of the stick, plus the kids hate him.

            Whereas divorce in china is rare but steadily becoming less stigmatized hence the small increase in divorce. More than half of American marriages end in divorce. I read an article last year about a small increase in divorce in China but it’s nothing to sneeze at. Yes, an increase, but still less than what we have in the west. Women have everything to gain leaving a marriage, including alimony.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Little Wolf, I do not troll!! When I say troll, I mean I am not taking the debate as seriously or as angrily as other people. I never call anyone names or insult them and it’s even rarer even if someone is attacking me that way first. I meant what i said, i’m just being blunt. im sure o thers think the same way but don’t admit it.

          • moop

            “He got the shorter end of the stick, plus the kids hate him.” sounds more like you ruined his life just because the two of you didnt get along. thats no a good thing. every man should get a pre-nup. if he didnt beat you or traumatize you in someway there is no reason for a man to have to go through that kind of shit where his finances are in ruin and have his former spouse turn his children against him. unless he beat and raped you i’d say he doesnt deserve to be punished for the rest of his life simply because the two of you failed to get along

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Moop , I didn’t ruin his life. He wasn’t nice, is all I will say of him. I was the one who was destroyed and broken until I got away, needless to say like someone running away in the night for dear life. And yes, he tried to force me to come back and I had to hide out for a while. The kids hate him because he was a jerk who only calls when he wants to talk to me, and ten years later still begs me to take him back. And yes, he has to give me a large portion of his income, and nope, I won’t be getting married any time soon so he’ll just have to keep paying. My youngest is four years away from turning 18, so he has some time yet before the child support starts. The best thing I ever did in my life was get out of that terrible relationship from a man who literally tried to keep me under lock and key. The type of guy who yelled at me if he caught another man looking! Like I can control where someone else is looking. It was a nightmare.

          • moop

            still not a reason to ruin a man’s entire life. he didnt force you to marry him at gunpoint. if you’re a bitch and he wanted to get out, what can he do? nothing. and the system would still award you his paycheck and the kids will still be in your custody. you took advantage of the system and you destroyed a life. not exactly something to gloat about

          • BigJ

            “He got the shorter end of the stick, plus the kids hate him.” Yeah moop, what she said was cold blooded. unless like you said she was beat or whatever then its ok. I know first hand woman can be more resentful and just plain hateful then men. I have a question for men…. What if another man came came along and took 1/2 your shit turn your kids against you and made you pay him money every month?Well one of us would have to go….It would be a fight to the death…no joke.

          • moop

            the feminist lobby has gone from wanting equality (as if that could be legislated) to lobbying for (and getting) special treatment and privileges under the law. look at what they did to georgetown, forcing a private catholic university to fund their students to have abortions. thats like the government forcing a muslim restaurant to go against their religious beliefs to start serving pork.

          • linette

            pre-nup? Moop, that sounds like a very good idea for both men and women. Let see. Divorce where children are involved. wife gets half of the house and cars.
            Then…

            monthly expenses.
            Rent = $1200
            medical expenses for kids like insurance= $600
            clothes = 100
            food = 400
            utility = 1000
            transportation like gas and car insurance = 800
            babysitter(mon-fri) because mommy works full time = 1200
            house cleaning lady plus doing grocery for kids because mom is working no time = 600
            tutor for kids helping homework daily= 300

            $6300 per month divided by two = $3150. That will be his monthly child support plus any unexpected expenses for kids. The father will be responsible also to take care of his kids one day of the weekend. The mom will take one day of the weekend too.

            perfect…:)

          • moop

            as long as the laws are heavily biased against men then yes, men should insist on pre-nups, and these prenuptials should be in men’s favor to offset the legal system that keeps children even in bad mother’s custody. Men almost always lose. most women dont seem to understand that a marriage is a partnership by two equally willing people. one party (the man) should not have their life ruined because they can’t get along with their spouse. there is absolutely no moral justification for it

          • linette

            I don’t understand how a woman can ruin his life? He just need to pay half of the bill and move on. He can pay his half of the childcare monthly and move on to find a new life.
            The only problem arise if he refuses to pay monthlly child support and the state is after him. That is the only trouble he will have.

          • moop

            you don’t see how a man having his children taken from him is ruining his life? you don’t see how a man losing the home he paid for with his own labor ruining his life? you don’t see how a man giving half of his income to the very same woman whom he thought he would spend the rest of his life with, and who now is ripping his life apart destroying a man’s life? if the man fall’s in love again does he have enough money to move on and start a new family if he is giving half his income to his former spouse? no.

          • linette

            you don’t see how a woman having to raise her children on her own is ruining her life? you don’t see how a woman losing half of the home she paid for with her own labor ruining her life? you don’t see how a woman giving up her income from her full time job to pay half of childcare , when she thought she found the man of her life but turn out he’s unfaithful ,cheated ,and irresponsible breaking her heart. And now she has to divorce him. if the woman fall’s in love again does she have enough money to move on and start a new family if she is giving her income to pay for half of childcare, not to mention all her time to raise the kids? no.

            Now please pay half of the childcare expenses monthly payment of $3150.
            And don’t say babysitter, house cleaning lady plus grocery, and tutor are unnecessary expenses. Mom is working full time also so no time to be stay home mom. Someone has to do those chores. Public school expect guardian’s participation in the child school work.

          • Brett Hunan

            Why is it that when people get divorced, everyone assumes it was the man who cheated and the woman is the victim? I know many cases, personally, which turned out exactly opposite. If it was the woman who cheated, should she have to pay all that money to the man until he decides to remarry?

            linette, I think what moop is trying to bring into this conversation is a bit of reason. Both you and Nanny Hiccups need to try and start to see things from men’s perspectives. Maybe moop needs to think about the woman’s side more, but I think right now he is just arguing your (you and NH) unreasonable acceptance of ruining a man’s life out of spite, more than saying “women need to get kicked down a level”.

          • moop

            “you don’t see how a woman having to raise her children on her own is ruining her life?”
            Do you? Raising a child is a punishment to you? Raising the children is a privilege, one that is removed from the man 90% of the time by the courts and the wife’s lawyers.

            “you don’t see how a woman losing half of the home she paid for with her own labor ruining her life?”
            no, the woman doesnt lose the home, she normally gets it in a settlement.

            “you don’t see how a woman giving up her income from her full time job to pay half of childcare.” no, its the tradeoff for having the privilege of raising the children. i am not arguing against child support. i am arguing about the system completely biased in the favor of women.

            “if the woman fall’s in love again does she have enough money to move on and start a new family if she is giving her income to pay for half of childcare, not to mention all her time to raise the kids?” of course she does, she has half of her old husband’s income and her own full income, she’s doing pretty well for herself at the expense of others isnt she? why do you view child-rearing as a punishment? do you think in custody hearings the father is like “please take my kids”? men do not initiate divorce, even if they are unhappy. women on the other hand have a sense of entitlement and have a system that rewards them for not seeing their marriages through. there is plenty of incentives for a man to not leave his wife and children, what incentives are there for women? not to mention how selfish women are for destroying their own children’s lives as well just because their yoga instructor is cute and their husband has been distant lately because he’s under a lot of stress and PUTTING FOOD ON THE FUCKING TABLE.

            you want to take my children? you won’t get a dime. kids need clothes for school? sorry, not giving it to my ex-wife, i’ll by it for them directly. Need school supplies? better ask dad, because dad isnt giving a dime to mommy.

          • linette

            no brett, moop is saying why men have to give up their property and pay so much money for childcare ruining their lives because now they don’t have money. He also saying that women turn kids against the father. At least that’s what I am getting.

          • eattot

            nanny:
            at least u get paid,a lot of chinese women after divorced or whatever get nothing.either those are broke ass, or they run away hide up forever…
            how many men u know raise kids?women are so much better than men at this point…some men even breed around,then get lost.

          • Brett Hunan

            linette I dont think he is arguing against the idea of child support at all. He is arguing that the system favors women and if you look up some statistics, you may be compelled to agree with him.

          • linette

            In a divorce , no matter who’s at fault, whoever is cheating or not the children need to be taken care of. Both mom and dad should pay half of child care. I can only say both mom and dad should not bad mouth each other in front of the kids. It will cause psychological trauma. Not healthy.

            And moop, men can always write on pre-nup the wife doesn’t get the house if he bought it. But if it was bought by both party then sell it and split the money. The same with cars.

            Monthly childcare has to be split. What do you mean she gets her own income and also your half? She has to pay half of childcare from her own income full time job. And husband has to pay half of childcare from his own full time job. You are not making sense.
            He needs to spend time taking care of kids too not just her. He will watch them sat and she will watch them sunday. fair enough?
            Everything split in half money and time.

          • linette

            Brett, you think it’s fair for the mother alone to spend all her time and energy to raise the kids by herself without help from the father? Men need to understand children are not a piece of toy you can just neglect and give some food. You need time, money, put in work and effort and energy to raise them and direct them. BE THEIR PARENTS. That is called parenthood.

          • Brett Hunan

            linette there are so many inherent flaws in your argument. Do you think men don’t try their absolute hardest to get custody? Men also want to be with their children… A lot. It is usually the woman who gets custody. If the system were fair, custody would go to moms half the time and dads the other half. The statistics are skewed much more in favor of women.

            Next, most men and women cant afford their child support payments. Your prices are unreasonable, considering the average American makes far less than 60 thousand a year. Could you support your husband and the children and yourself while paying up to 70% of your salary in child support? Meanwhile the husband works full time and gets to keep his salary. Thats the way it works.

            Yea, people get to fight for their kids, but the woman usually wins. If the mom wants sole custody than ld be able to pay at least half the cost of raising the child(ren) plus all of her own living and transportation costs. Usually the man ends up paying so much that the woman gets a new Gucci bag and matching shoes every season while the man moves back in with his parents.

            Seriously, do you really think that every mother would be a better parent than the father? Sometimes the dad is clearly going to be better for the children but the mom still wins in court. It happens time andhundreds of times over, every sindle day.

            Also, if child support were fair then it would be a standard payment for every family, not what it should cost the mom to maintain her comfort of living. Whichever parent isnt in custody should be allowed to purchase everything the children need directly, NOT make tax-free direct deposits into the mom’s bank account.

          • Brett Hunan

            shit, that should read “if mom wants sole custody than she’d be able to pay…”.

            Also, you arent reading what I write. You are responding with completely separate ideas than the ones I present.

          • linette

            Brett , I am basically saying no matter who’s at fault that caused the divorce, both mom and dad are responsible paying half of the childcare cost. And no, the men are not responsible for paying for her “comfort” or her gucci bag. The things that I listed above are not considered luxury and comfort.
            Rent, utility, healthcare, transportation, food, clothes, babysitter, cleaning lady, tutor are not considered comfort goods. They are necessity for raising kids if the mom is never home working full time outside.

            And what do you mean the wife gets half of her husband and gets to keep her own salary? I gave and estimate like $6300 total and he pays half and she pays half. She has to pay $3150 a month also out of her own working pay check too.

            And I am surprised that you say the number is too high. I thought you are from jersey. Ask your friends in new york and see what they will tell you about the cost of living in major citiess in usa.

            I am not against if the father is a better person than a drug addict mother, the kids should go to the father. No problem there. I am sure the judge will consider.

            What is wrong with you and moop today? You two are father or father to be. How can you not understand the money and time takes to raise kids?

          • Nanny Hiccups

            ha moop. What makes you assume I destroyed his life? For one, his family owns a bunch of property and I didn’t get any of it. I left him so I moved out and didn’t get to stay in the home.

            Secondly, he’s a dumbass who didn’t help with the kids, left all of the burden on me, bear in mind three small kids who were all a year apart in age and all under 3 at the time. When I left he refused to let me use one of the cars, while me and the kids moved around even in the dead of winter with snow up to our knees . Imagine a baby on your hip, one in a stroller, one holding your hand while , still in college, working part-time, trying to support us , trying to get them to babysitters, standing in defeat in tears some nights hile he sat around living like a big shot not caring about our well being. As my best friend said, he it wasn’t that he didnt’ want me to succeed, he didn’t want me to succeed without HIM. He wanted me to suffer so I would come crawling back. So I got the courts involved.

            It was child support and our court dispute that lead to me getting my fair share so I can take care of the kids, finish school, and live comfortably. This fool wouldnt’ even change a diaper because I wouldn’t take him back.

            So now, I take him to the cleaners instead. Every three years I can request an increase and I do! Brett, that is incorrect that the woman can get 70%. It goes by state. Here, I get 25% of his income. So they still have the benefit of two parents who have money to provide for them!

            The reason women are shown favor is once again, because of the discrimination, and how men often used the kids and money to force women to stay in abusive relationships.

            Some years after we broke up, my ex had a kid with another woman who complained that I was getting more money from him than she was. I told her too bad, she knew he had kids before she decided to pop one out, thinking he would take care of her. She left him, took him to court, and demanded that they force him to pay her what he has to pay for my children. The court told her no. Flat out. The first children, by law have priority and their income will not change because he decided to have additional children. So unfortunately for her, she receives a very tiny amount of child support because they are not allowed to take more than 25% of his income. He told me “she wants what you have.”

            That’s the way the law works and why I call him a dumbass. Women clawing after his income, it’s all stupid to me. I only take what is due the children until they are eighteen years old. I actually have my own money now and don’t need him. The kids are teenagers now.

            Furthermore, children belong with the mother. That’s just how I feel.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            @linette

            food = 400

            I wish it was only 400 for food lol. We spend $200 a week on groceries. I think the average family spends between $800-$1000 a month on groceries.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            @moop you want to take my children? you won’t get a dime. kids need clothes for school? sorry, not giving it to my ex-wife, i’ll by it for them directly. Need school supplies? better ask dad, because dad isnt giving a dime to mommy.

            See, moop this is exactly what happened to me and in the end he made the kids suffer more than I did. And he used to say “MY” kids like he owned them I was just the hired help, and that was very annoying. I hate when men say that. He’d come by my place, hug the kids, play with them, throw them around, then leave me with the responsibilities because he felt that he should have to give me a dime for leaving him. Wrong! He should have been paying half of the children’s expenses. He gave me money sometimes ,but only if I was “good” or pleased him in some way (not sexually you pervs).

            In the end, I ended up getting money for the kids, which paid most of my bills while keeping my own money, which allowed me to have a lot of money for things that I wanted.

            This is why I don’t date men who have children. I don’t want money for our household going to some other woman. So think very wisely about who you choose guys, and whether you have kids.

          • My parents divorced when I was 7. I am the second oldest of 6 kids and firstborn son so naturally I was my dad’s favorite and he tried to remain active as possible on weekends but after a few years my mother had trashed him so bad about leaving her with 6 lousy kids we just didn’t want him around anymore and he just stayed away. Add that to teenage angst and a few other factors and we pretty much hated his guts. When I was 23, he came for a visit and we went for a drive and he had decided I was old enough to know the truth and he had explained how he had come home from work early and found my mother fucking our next door neighbor(who was also married and I used to play with his son) As he told me, I realized that I had been there and saw the whole incident unfold(well, not the fucking part) I was standing in our driveway clutching my “Munsters” lunch pail and heard screaming and a lot of pounding from inside the house and all of a sudden a guy came flying out the front door and landed on his back followed by my dad and my screaming mother. My dad picked the guy up and threw a John Wayne style “hay-maker” across his jaw sending the guy flying backward some more. This went on several more times as this was how my dad walked the guy to our family station wagon and loaded him inside and drove him down to the Huntington Beach jetty where my father confessed he had broke the guys arms and legs and a lot of other damage and left him for dead. He wasn’t worried about the consequences since in those days you could still get away with “crimes of passion” . It turned out the guy survived but never a word was spoken about it and my dad never even dealt with any cops. He told me he still tried to reconcile with my mom for almost a year without success as apparently “my mom could never forgive herself”. He also tried to get custody of us kids. My youngest sister hadn’t even been born yet and a paternity test was done to see if she was even his.
            So…in a flash his marriage and dreams for his kids were shattered.
            To his credit… he paid his child support every month on time even all the years we hated his guts and wanted nothing to do with him and continued paying for my sisters after they turned 18 and continued through college. He never trashed my mother ever and never looked for sympathy for the shitty hand he’d been dealt. In the end, things turned full circle for him, all his kids reconciling with him and he died in 2004 extraordinarily revered by his children.

            I’ve never told my mother what I knew or confronted her to explain why she did what she did and don’t really harbor any bitterness towards her. She is actually a decent mom, but a lousy dad and raised 6 kids alone and certainly paid for her mistakes many times over. I just feel sympathy for both my parents for what happened and it sucks when you have to accept your parents are human beings and not flawless.

            Nanny…you make me want to vomit with your sense of entitlement to fuck over your ex and your constant congratulating yourself of raising your kids by yourself. Boo fkn hoo. There’s always 2 sides to the story and reading how you boast here the way you use men for whatever you can get , I’m certain I would side with your ex. Good luck ever finding a man that’s worth a shit.(one that doesn’t need to buy you baubles or used cars while being stupid enough to get friend- zoned by you)
            Linette, I’m not real impressed with you either and frankly, expected better from you.

          • mr. wiener

            Agreed, another brain fart from Nanny. Your life is your own to live and f*ck up, don’t expect a round of applause for it.

          • Brett Hunan

            Linette, cleaning lady? Not comfort? Food for the wife, clothes for the wife? You think that sometimes mothers don’t benefit from child support payments? NH has bragged about getting these comfort goods and calling it her “fair share”.

            “And what do you mean the wife gets half of her husband and gets to keep her own salary?” I was confused with the numbers you gave and the numbers which are fact. You state that the cost of raising a child is about $6,000/month. Are you insane its $12,000 per year in the US?! The average cost of raising a child costs around $1,000/month including food, clothes, rent/mortgage, transportation, sporting goods, birthday gifts and other variables. Even that changes on a month to month basis.
            Half and half would be $500/$500. It is true that most non-custodial parents (mostly fathers) pay about $300 per month on average. But there are plenty of outliers who end up paying much more than they can afford and the mother is making profit on it. I don’t know if this happens often, and it probably doesn’t but don’t act like all single parents slave their entire lives for the benefit of their children. Many single parents hold 1 job and are able to manage their situations accordingly.

            “And I am surprised that you say the number is too high.” It is too high! Millionaires don’t spend that much on their kids per month, even with private schooling and vacations and whatever.

            Unfairness of child custody court decisions-
            • 54.9% of custodial single mothers were awarded child support in 2010.
            • 30.4% of custodial single fathers were awarded child support during the same year.

            “…father is a better person than a drug addict mother…” Why would the mother need to be a drug addict for the father to be a better choice? What if the father has more free time to spend with the child, is more responsible, is more interested in raising said child, is more mentally stable, lives in an area with better schooling, has a stable job and stable living conditions, is involved in the community, wants to coach the kid’s sports team? What if the dad is just genuinely better? It doesn’t seem to be a possibility to you. The mom has to have some sort of addiction to be a poor parent but that just isn’t reality… more like a tv series on TLC.

            I can understand just fine as to how much money, time, and emotion raising children involves, thank you.

            We have gotten away from why I originally posted on this thread and that was because you and NH make it seem like divorcing a man and taking the kids and making him pay money is fair, just because he’s the biological father. If he knew that the woman would be such a terrible person and prevent him from seeing his kids, I doubt he would have ever considered sharing the gift of having a child with said woman. Honestly, you should reflect a little on what you wrote here today because men get the short end of the stick (82% of the time) when it comes to custody.

            NH $200 a week for groceries may be normal when the children are adults and eat out twice a week, but from adolescence through teens my mother paid less than $100/week on groceries for the three of us boys, herself, and dad… maybe because she bought raw foods and not processed overpriced garbage.
            Why should your ex pay for your education?
            70% isn’t incorrect. It just isn’t common and may only be as many as .0001% of cases but there was a documentary recorded about a guy who was thrown in jail for contempt of court because the wife and him agreed on a settlement, 50% of his income, and the judge (a woman) said “no, you can afford more than that. 70% sounds fair” and the man argued with the judge. I will try to find the name of the documentary so you can watch it, I think it’s on 1channel.ch.

            LW, I think your story is one of many similar ones. Some of my father’s friends were great guys, but after the mother got custody it became burdensome for the children to meet the father every week. They ended up cutting off communication and the men were considered ‘thoughtless, assholes of a parent’. I also had a neighbor who had custody of his 2 kids. After a few years the kids never even wanted to see their mom. It just becomes a hassle after a while.

          • Brett… you’re so right. The only thing “unique” about my situation is that I was only kid in my school with a single parent. My family was dysfunctional before it was fashionable.

            My own marriage ended in 1993 and the only “rights” I got to my children was the right to pay child support and didn’t meet my son until he was 3 and now haven’t seen him since 1997. I’m with moop all the way on this. I rarely gave cash to the ex, opting to purchase items that they needed but I still can’t even imagine how much alcohol and medical marijuana I’ve paid for over the years for the ex. It all comes around though, she’s been married 3 times since the divorce. The first one was an unemployed alcoholic that turned out to be gay and sued HER for alimony and half her business(she had a beauty salon) He was awarded neither….but still :) Second was a guy I knew from my fighting days who has the distinction of winning a 2nd place trophy at a karate tournament that only had 2 fighters in his weight class. The 1st place winner was an amputee with no arms. He was one of Bruce Lee’s first students and after divorcing my ex, he got married to Bruce Lee’s widow and co-authored a book with her about Bruce. What a fucking douche.
            Current husband is a blackout alcoholic who recently disappeared for several months and turned up homeless 2 states away. I know this because my daughter called me to rant she had to drive the ex to get him out of the rehab the cops had put him in.

            Shit…..I almost feel sorry for her. Almost.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Well Little Wolf, the difference between me and your mum is a.) I didn’t fuck some other man. Hell, I don’t do that now and I’m single. I have practice abstinence since my divorce, my ex husband was the last man I have ever been with. b.) I didn’t trash him to my kids, I pretended for years he was a good guy and lied to them about why he wasn’t living with us. They did not find out until they were in high school (maybe a year or two ago), when they met their half sister while visiting their grandma. They were okay with it but realized he hadn’t put in the effort to spend time with them. He doesn’t call on birthdays, the only thing he does is money. Kids don’t care about that shit, they would rather have a parent.

            As for congratulating myself, I do that everyday. Don’t need an applause from you. Bleh

          • Nanny Hiccups

            I don’t know if this happens often, and it probably doesn’t but don’t act like all single parents slave their entire lives for the benefit of their children.

            We are, my whole life has revolved around my kids. Why do you think I haven’t gotten laid in ten years? It’s important to be a model of virtue for them, and to dedicate my life and time to ensure these children are upright and decent. lol

            NH $200 a week for groceries may be normal when the children are adults and eat out twice a week, but from adolescence through teens my mother paid less than $100/week on groceries for the three of us boys, herself, and dad… maybe because she bought raw foods and not processed overpriced garbage.

            First of all, we don’t eat overprocessed garbage. The reason why I spend so much on food is because we only eat fresh and healthy foods. It is FAR MORE PRICEY for healthy food than it is for the cheap stuff. A bag of apples cost 4 dollars and a pack of 100 cookies cost 1 dollar. Why do you think most poor and low income people are extremely obese? Because they can only afford large amounts of unhealthy food. We do treat ourselves to takeout once a week. Or maybe once every two weeks. Whatever I eat, they eat. I treat them like little adults. They are very sweet kids. Their father was an asshole. I know you’re a guy and he’s a guy but everyone who was there kn ows he was an ass and it’s become a family joke. He was so possessive I didn’t even see my own family for two years. Itwas a very difficult period, where I felt like a prisoner. Why do you think I am so independent and afraid to allow a man to share my household or remarry? Don’t want some idiot thinking he can control me. I only date guys who accept my terms and allow me to be in control. Older men, much older men who are too tired to chase sex, want companionship, and just want to spend money and time with someone pretty. It’s a win-win situation.

          • linette

            Divorce settlement with two kids. Kids lives with mom.

            dad lives by himself:
            -works 40 hours a week. Mon to Fri. Leaves home to work 7am comes home at 7pm.
            -makes his own dinner =15minutes sandwich and cold beer, sit down on his sofa and watch TV.

            Total hours spend on kids 0 x 5 = 0 hour.

            -does his own house chores, laundry, cleaning, grocery for himself only. (not much to do. He lives by himself)
            -takes himself to doctor when he is sick (hardly ever sick.He’s an adult)
            ——————————-
            mom lives with two kids 6yr and 8yr old:
            -works 40 hours a week. Mon to Fri. Leaves home to work 7am comes home at 7pm.
            -makes her own dinner =15minutes sandwich and cold beer, -makes dinner for 6yr old wants cheese n mac, 8yrs old wants chicken and rice. Feed them cause 6yr keeps crying and won’t eat chicken with rice. =1 hour.
            -do dishes and clean up the kitchen and table and floors with rice all over. =1 hour
            – do homework with kids, science project, book report, study for test = 2hours
            -give the kids a bath = 1/2 hour

            Total hours spend on kids =4 1/2 hours. x 5 = 22 hours

            -does her own house chores, laundry, cleaning, grocery for her and the two kids. (The house looks like it went thru WWII. Toys on floor. Cookie crumbs and roaches. Juice and milk spills. The kids change their clothes three times a day. Kids get themselves dirty all the time. laundry laundry laundry.. Take them to grocery in the weekend and it will take 3 hours…never in and out. Kids are like eating machine. Always out of milk and cereal.
            -take the kids to doctor when sick at least once every two weeks. The principal call you at work saying your 8yr is sick and please pick him up.
            -Teacher and parent(mom) meetings.
            -6yr old sick with vomiting high fever in 1am, run to emergery room carrying your sick vomiting 6yr along with your crying 8yr old. Mom don’t own a car. Take the bus. Mom spend the night in ER with sick crying kids no sleep and have to work the next morning. Finish? take the crowded bus home. No car.

            I think mommy needs a homework tutor, babysitter, and a cleaning lady.
            The bills should be 50/50 between mom and dad. Thank you very much.

          • Mongojian

            Nanny Hiccups wrote:

            “Why do you think I haven’t gotten laid in ten years?”

            Well, there is an explanation to that.

            1. record what you are saying for a day and play it to yourself
            2. go to a mirror and look at yourself
            3. read your posts on Chinasmack

            Do that while you are sober and you might understand…

          • linette

            @Brett, monthly expense of $1000 is all you need for raising two kids living in where? Not in big cities in usa. You’ve been away from USA too long. You don’t know the cost of living in big cities. $600 you rent a basement. 1200 you rent a 1 or 2 bedrooms apt . You need $1000 just to cover utility cost monthly. Go find out cost of living in big cities.
            The numbers and expenses are reasonable for a family living in a big city. And I am saying the bills should be split 50/50. Dad and mom both share the bills equally.
            And yes, you do need a homework tutor and babysitter daily. A cleaning lady should come twice a week. It’s not comfort. It’s necessity because both mom and dad work full time.

          • BigJ

            Linette…
            “you do need a homework tutor and babysitter daily. A cleaning lady should come twice a week. It’s not comfort. It’s necessity because both mom and dad work full time.”

            Bitches just need to learn to live within their means.

            ” You need $1000 just to cover utility cost monthly”

            What the fuck are they doing??? leaving the AC on and water running all day when they are gone???

          • linette

            little wolf, you shouldn’t be responsible for paying for your exwife drug habit or handbags. You should only be responsible to pay 50% of the total cost of childcare. She should pays 50% also. She should be working also so she can pay her share. So a babysitter is needed to stay with the kids. If you want to split the kids homework and house chores time you can do that also. She does mon,wed,fri and you do tues,thurs, sat.
            Kids need shelter, food, clothes, medical insurance, transportation. Those bills needs to split in 50/50 between dad and mom.

            I think that is fair. That is why a pre nup is important for both men and women. Understand all expenses must be 50/50.

          • Linette, you seem to think I had any say in the matter or that I was dealing with a reasonable person. It doesn’t work that way. Even in Bizarro World.

          • linette

            BigJ
            water bill, gas, electricity alone is not cheap.
            I live by myself and my winter gas bill monthly is $200 and I don’t turn on my heat all the time.
            I guess if you don’t use phone, cell phone, internet computer connection, and cable tv, you can cut the utility cost to $500 a month just pay gas, electricity and water.

            You do need a baby sitter. Mom is working leaves the house 7am to 7pm. Kids can’t be alone at home.
            You can rent a basement $600 in a poor bad neighborhood to raise your kids.
            You don’t need a tutor to help kids with homework. If kids don’t understand they will give up and don’t want to study. Let them fail and drop out of high school.
            You don’t need to hire a cleaning lady twice a week neither. Let the house be dirty with roaches. Mom is working full time outside.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            @linette I hope mommies don’t have roaches around their kids. You know those things cause serious respiratory illnesses. Ew!

            But anyhoo ,I am not listening to these guys long sob stories… waaaaaaaah woman wronged me! waaaaaaah I haven’t seen my kids. Maybe if you weren’t in china chasing girls you would have time to see your kids. Duh! I do not believe these pitiful stories or lies. It is rare for a woman to be bad and common for a man to be horrible. Women have it much harder than men and we all know it. All of a sudden, every guy on chinasmack was a victim of a woman. Get out of here!

          • mr. wiener

            Everyone has been a victim or a victimiser at some stage. The important thing is not to let it sour you too much. Blaming other people for your life is not a way to let go of the hate or the hurt.

          • linette

            Nanny, At my job I know three women who are single parent. All three of them have two small kids. Those are the lunch topic everyday. They always worry who’s going to pick up the kids after school. They need to run out using their lunch time at work to take the kids to doctor. Go home spend 2 hours to do homework and son’s teacher is calling complaining about her son. I am not blind. I see how stressful these single mothers are.
            One of the mother called me 1am in the morning crying over the phone begging me to drive her to emergency room. Her 6yr old was vomiting with fever. Her 8yr cried in the background. I got up and took them. We stayed in the ER the whole night. She doesn’t own a car. If I didn’t take her I wonder if she has money to take car service. I saw everything and I am not blind. Where is the father?? What is he doing?

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Oh I believe you Linette, hell I had to leave work for two hours just the other day to take my kid to the doctor. It’s a predicament to be sure. It’s like, you can never be 100%. You have to be at work so you can’t be 100% at home. You need to be home so you can’t be 100% at work. I used to feel guilty. If the kids had a play or a recital or assembly at school I would have to leave work and then my employer is wondering why I have to take off. If I stay at work then my child is on stage singing his heart out with no one to tell him how great he was… looking out at the crowd sadly while the other parents cheer their kids.

            I do not recommend single parent hood on any woman. If you can find a GOOD man who will love you for all the right reasons then cherish your relationship. Pick your husband wisely so that there is no divorce.

          • ” Where is the father?? What is he doing?”

            See that’s just it, linette. You don’t know. You don’t know the circumstances or the terms of the divorce. The father might be somewhere dealing with the situation the best he can. Maybe she never even called him, not wanting him involved. Where are the grandparents? Why do they put it on you to drive to the hospital? Maybe there is something really dysfunctional about her if she can’t even call her own parents. Or maybe the guy is just a deadbeat piece of shit. Unless you know both sides for certain don’t just assume it’s the father’s fault.

          • Boris

            Nanny Linette,
            It begs the question, if you’re so busy, how come you’ve got so much free time to write such lengthy posts?

          • linette

            Hello Boris, I am not busy. I am single living by myself not married. I don’t have much house chores because I don’t have kids messing and dirtying my place. I don’t have to do 2 hours hw each night with kids neither. I am not a divorced single mom raising two kids on her own with some child support.
            I am very happy with where I am now at this point in my life. I earned it. I studied hard in college. Now I feel safe and in control. I am financially independent and happy.

            I am reading a chinese novel on the internet while chatting with you. I like to read. :)

          • Brett Hunan

            NH every parent has to leave work sometimes to take care of kids. Its not a burden that only single parents have to bear. If you want me to be your personal shopper I can prove to you that all you need for you and the kids to eat healthily is $100 per week. And you are wrong about the poor only being able to buy junk foods. They buy them because they like them and the foods are already prepared so they can keep their asses on the couch while watching cable TV and enjoying the other luxuries that they would rather spend their money on. You’re not fooling anyone with the excuses you give to defend laziness. Most of the people in America living below the poverty line smoke, drink, have cell phones, buy accessories, many do drugs, plenty own cars, and most eat expensive junk foods which do in fact cost more than raw foods. I dont know where you get your information but you are wrong.

            Linette think what you want but the truth is that you have absolutely negative idea as to what it takes to raise a child. Lala Land is a nice place to live until they throw you out and youre stuck in the real world with the rest of us. Then again, I am starting to believe the rumors that you are the same person who used to post under the names Epuff and Notorious

          • linette

            Little Wolf, why would you suggest to burden the grandparents with this kind of responsibility? They are probably 70 80 yr old or sick. For her to call me means she was desperate.

          • Brett Hunan

            NH maybe you spent your life on your kids but I didnt mean single experiences. You cant argue that there are plenty of single parents who get custody who arent fit enough to take care of a plastic fern, let alone a child. Not everyone who gets custody should have custody because they put themselves before the kids.

          • linette

            Lala Land is a nice place to live until they throw you out ………..

            I don’t live in a lala land. I am surrounded by older peers and co workers and I see with my own eyes how they live. I see people in happy marriages. I also see people end up in divorce. Parenthood is wonderful except when you have to raise kids on your own without your husband involvement. I see how difficult for those single moms.
            And I don’t live in a lala land. I am a very realistic person. So get lost.

          • Why? Because my father’s parent’s were always friendly and helpful with my own mother as are alot of people’s grandparents. And when I was 8 they were in the 50s. Is it really that farfetched for grandparents to help with their grand- kids? Do you even need to ask?

          • markx

            I’m with Nanny re “controlling bastards” (and they are not always men, it’s just that women rarely combine the pathogenic jealousy with physical threats or force).

            These people who would control your life and even your thoughts are really people you MUST escape from. By any means.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Brett, you are wrong. It is IMPOSSIBLE to eat healthy on a hundred dollars a week for four or five people. WRONG. Im not going to debate it becasue you have access to the internet. There have been numerous credible documentaries about why poor people are fat and unhealthy and it’s namely because healthy and organic food expensive. You ever shop at Whole Foods? This is why I grow my own vegetables in my patio garden in the summer. If I don’t want high fructose corn syrup, sucrose and all that crap in my food, I have to pay more money for a healthy diet. When my kids were young and I didn’t have money we ate unhealthy for a couple of years because the cheaper food was inexpensive. I bought canned goods, like processed spaghettis, etc and spend about 150 dollars a month on groceries back then. Compare that to 200 a week (sometimes more) for the healthy diet we eat now.

            Linette is perfectly correct in her statements about how difficult life can be for single mothers, especially low income families. Your comments, and Little Wolf’s show how removed you are from these experiences. You quote the price of what it costs to feed a single man. Well, you can live on about 50 bucks a week. Kids need all kinds of nutrition.

            As to Linette being Notorious , Epuff, et al. You are painfully naive! Ridiculous.

            Boris, the internet is a good place to be while the kids are sleep, especially whenthey are young. hell, back when my kids were small I couldn’t go out and party so I got on the internet to read, listen to music, and do other things. YOu can leave the PC and tend to the children as necessary. Dumb question.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            @MarkxThese people who would control your life and even your thoughts are really people you MUST escape from. By any means.

            Indeedly. I don’t think people understand how oppressive a controlling individual can be.

          • Brett Hunan

            NH we can stop after this, but you dont have to eat organic to eat healthy. Wholefoods isnt the lone produce store in the world. Shit, I live in Korea where produce is around 50% more expensive than America. Buy a book on nutrition before you argue with me. Honestly, how can you say I am lying before you research yourself? Stop buying soda, chips, cookies, sports drinks, processed cereal and basically anything else in a box and you can cut down on spending. It isnt that it is impossible to spwnd less, its that you refuse to change your shopping habits to suit your income.

            BTW growing your own food is a great idea. Why doesnt everyone? Ive got a hydroponic window garden with tomatoes, lettuce, assorted greens, green beans, basil, hot peppers, and limes. I only have to buy fruits and root vegetables to keep me going.

            I never said it is easy for a single parent. Im just saying you embellish a lot and linette knows jack shit about reality. BTW yea I was hinting that the rumors are you and her are the same person. Along with epuff and notorious.

          • linette

            Nanny , don’t continue the topic of child care anymore. The men here in chinasmack will not agree. You are single mom working and raising three kids alone. They are men traveling around the world to different countries. And that Brett Hunan don’t know jack shxt about how difficult life can be in the real world.

        • the ace of books

          Except, linette, that Western culture is irritatingly schizophrenic about virginity. If you sleep with people they’re like “ugh you’re such a slut” and if you don’t they’re like “ugh what’s wrong with you”. So really there’s no winning.

          Except there’s no winning when you marry the first person you date, either, because lol at the idea of that very first person being Perfect 4 U. Hormones ain’t no substitute for getting to know a person, and figuring out what’s hormones and what’s not is half of what dating is about. Virginity – s’fine if you have it, s’fine if you don’t, but really it’s better to, yanno, not have the social pressure to marry to damn fast.

          HELL YEAH THE ACE OF BOOKS KNOWS HOW TO GET OFF-TOPIC

          • the ace of books

            *so damn fast.

        • grovesman

          lol…linette

          How many Chinese men do you think are virgins before they marry? For that matter, how many Chinese women do you think are virgins before they marry in this day and age? Exactly how many Chinese born after, let’s say, 1985, do you think live a strictly Chinese traditional lifestyle?

          And FYI – that “old Chinese traditional culture” was exactly the same culture (with regard to many social norms) in the USA before the 1960’s. So it doesn’t sound strange to a non-Asian. Your limited view/experience of non-asian cultures seems to be that they were and are a Sodom and Gamorrah.

          Peace!

        • Poltergeist

          oh linette,

          I am not against virgins at all. And believe it or not, I dislike those playoboys that are changing girls like underwear as much as you do (probably). What I meant to bring across is: eattot’s comments on chinasmack are usually so dumb, it’s almost unbelievable that she is not trolling.
          And since the majority of the people on this planet are stupid, those happen to often influence decisions (how come the world is so fucked up)?

          All I am saying is that eattot could contribute to mankind by not producing children like her. Would be good for the average IQ on this planet…

          • Poltergeist

            Oh and another thing about this “western divorce rates are so high”, while in China “they are so low”.

            First of all, how many marriages in China are kept alive because of the “don’t lose face” shit?
            Second, just as an example, go on e.g. ChinaLoveLinks and search for women between the ages 25-35 with the status “divorced”. Since that will probably not surprise you so much, just check out how many of those women have a kid already.
            It gets really interesting when you see info like “I am divorced for 3 years now…..my son/daughter is 4/5 years old now”.

            Anyway, lost cause, because in the eyes of linette, eattot and Nanny Hiccups, only white guys are assholes and are obviously just bad-mouthing the Chinese samaritans.
            I wonder if you girls are locked up at home and explain us the world through information gathered through the internet.

          • sonny

            @poltergeist re: divorce stats

            i don’t know what sources (if any) they were referencing, but i posted the official stats above. the numbers are actually pretty close and will continue to get closer if current trends continue.

        • Poltergeist

          I read your post sonny and I agree with you. However, I rather follow the tradition of talking shit without looking at the other side of the coin. It’s easier for judgement reasons, you know?

          The parents of a good Chinese friend had an argument about her playing Mahjongg in a group of 5. Herself, another lady and 3 guys. Her husband of course didn’t like it, he insulted her for this (like “sth must be going on”) and they fought the whole evening about it. Next morning they divorced. It took them 5 minutes to sign the divorce paper. A week later, they realized they overreacted. But since marrying again would be expensive and troublesome…

          • sonny

            lol, yeah, i know what you mean. your story reminds me of gene simmons’ situation. a piece of paper from a judge doesn’t make two people married, it’s a personal commitment before anything else. guess we should take all of this with a grain of salt.

          • linette

            Marriage is not to be taken lightly. It’s a serious matter. A life long commitment. Two people sharing the rest of their lives together building a family. You don’t get married because your parents force you, and you don’t get divorced over some silly fights. You walk away and cool off. Try your best to work things out especially when kids are involved. You made that vow that you will commit and love your spouse in sickness and in health. So don’t say “I do” if you are not going to.
            “will you love him/her, comfort him/her, honor and keep him/her, in sickness and in health, and forsaking all others, keep yourself only for him/her so long as you both shall live?”

            And infidelity and domestic violence are crimes commited against your love, trust, and your marriage. You better NOT commit it. It’s dead serious.

          • Poltergeist

            linette…

            the fuck are you talking about? Rather than giving me a statement/comment/feedback on what I tried to bring across, you come up with some random shit about marriage.
            Awesome… got anything new?

          • linette

            Poltergeist
            Just random thought and not talking to you. And don’t fxcking read it.

          • Poltergeist

            linette, you commented on my post with “don’t talk sh*” in the first place, while you had no clue what I was talking about.

            So please forgive me that I tried to squeeze some sense out of you…

        • Alex

          Keeping virginity is admirable?

          From a correct point of view, is ironic and almost comic when somebody boasts about presenting their virginity as a present/gift, the best present, the most difficult present. We’re talking about the preface of coitus. So, if the utmost goal is the optimization of the present, what about giving experience, dexterity, “craftiness”, gracefulness….the “know-how”.

          Girl: to show you my love I give you as a gift my clumsiness(from having no idea), the included pains from the first time, and my bloody extravasation.

          Guy: ah..gee…thanks… o_0

          Anyways, I don’t know how not every women feels humilliated when they speak about virginity like that. It’s comparing a person to a electrical appliance with a seal of warranty that loses value after it’s first use. And some women even defend that stigma that has been hurting them subce inmemorable times!
          The hymen has a biological function against possible infections when the kid is growing up. When puberty has been reached(hormonal changes) the body can defend itself without the need of a hymen.
          Actually most of the time it breaks from physical activity. So yeah, that’s it function, nothing else. But the idea of the virginity and the hymen was all invented to control other people’s sexual liberty.

          • k

            Thank you Alex, 100% agree with every thing you said. The idea of “virginity as a prize” is just something invented by men to keep control over women’s “sexuality” and to make women, who don’t accept that a husband and marriage as their most desired goal in life, to feel bad about having sex. And you’re right, how the hell can you even prove virginity? The hymn breaks all the time from physical activity, like riding a bike over a bumpy road. And just sayin’, but sex is a very big deal breaker in a relationship. Let’s say you’re some naive chick, never had sex with your partner, and on your wedding night, he revels his 3 inch penis and horrible sex moves. Im sorry, but that’s a deal breaker just like a woman who has a bush the size of the amazonian jungle and horrible body odor. I don’t want a man who is a virgin, I want a man who knows what he is doing and if I were a man, I’d want a woman who knows what she is doing.

          • linette

            Girl: to show you my love I give you as a gift my clumsiness(from having no idea…
            Come on Alex, being a virgin for girl or boy also means less chance of them carrying diseases like HIV or STDs. Which population have more risk of STds or Hiv? virgins or whores?
            But those disease can also be transmitted thru needle use like needle stuck or iv abusers.

          • moop

            “The idea of “virginity as a prize” is just something invented by men to keep control over women’s “sexuality” and to make women, who don’t accept that a husband and marriage as their most desired goal in life, to feel bad about having sex.” and women dont use sex to their advantage and hold that over men? i guess you also support horrific legislation like title 9? feminism is just as ugly as chauvanism

          • moop

            “korean pure blood”

            koreans actually are the most genetically pure group of asians as opposed to the han chinese who are very genetically diverse

        • k

          Really Linette? Really? Asian women are just as “sexually active” as an western woman, and if they say they aren’t, they’re just liars. Some of the sluttiest women I have ever known were Korean women, who had different men coming and going, but acted like an innocent, flower who had no idea what sex was. It was all an act, just like I’m sure many Chinese women put on. And FYI, the USA is still a very christian country and in some parts, “save till marriage” is still a very heavily pushed idealogy based in Christianity. My entire life, I grew up in heavily Christian areas, with a church at every corner, and they always preach “save till marriage” and many people still follow that. I guess you must be basing your opinion on people who live in cities or on american tv, but in reality, there are many ultra conservative people who are very religious in the USA. And please, don’t hype up asian culture as some how “morally superior”……I think the difference between western and asian girls is that western girls are just more upfront and honest about their sexuality where as asian girls (from asia) just like to pretend they’re all “pure” and “chaste” and “innocent” when in fact, they are sleeping with just as many people. It’s all an act. Cause truth is, asian, white, black, hispanic all have sex and lots of it and not one group is more superior in their sexuality then the next. Also this assuming that you consider someone having sex out of marriage a bad thing. It isn’t. Only irresponsible women get pregnant out of marriage, but for most women, who know what birth control is, they are welcome to do whatever they want with their bodies and shouldn’t feel ashamed for liking sex.

          • linette

            K, I agree with what you are saying. I am aware of that. Christianty just like old chinese tradition preach “save for marriage”, but in today’s world both western and Chinese most don’t follow it. Yet you still have some do. I am not saying Chinese old traditions are morally superior. I was just replying to the comments about “virgin men = sissy” or something must be wrong with the men. In Asian society, many of us will just take it that he is very traditional and his mom taught him well. He can be as good looking as rock ji or godfrey gao and still be a virgin. And we still drool over them and like them even more for being such good boys. They are still sexy.
            But in the west it seems like a crime and they put man + virgin = sissy or gay.

          • k

            Well generally men who have no sexual experience are seen as undesirable just because men who have never had sex are ether a) still young boys b) are very ugly or in some way undesireable to women (bad body odor, poor social skills, weird) c) very religious and is waiting till marriage to an also ery religious girl d) have a medical disorder that prevents them and most women do not want men who have no idea what to do or how to take charge during sex….well some older cougers get off on “teaching” young guys but….thats a different discussion in itself. If a 25 yr old man told me was a virgin, it would be a huge turn off because I would think there must be something wrong with him if other women havent wanted him.

          • k

            Speaking of STD and race, asian american women have a significantly higher STD rate then white women in the USA because they have more risky sex.

            http://hyphenmagazine.com/blog/archive/2010/05/study-finds-disturbing-std-rates-among-asian-americans

            It isnt about virgin or non virgin when it comes to STDs..its about not being an idiot and using a condom.

          • linette

            That study was done by one dude a professor in Boston University back in 1990s. Not a medical guideline.
            Asian American? Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Indo, philippines, nonchinese malaysian, thai….hmmmmm? and back in 1990s….another hmmmmm??
            In the years of 2000 East asian like Chinese many immigrants are money investment and foreigne students seeking for higher education. The quality of immigrant is different.

            And just like some dude professor koreans claim some findings in korean ancient culture or korean blood or the korean race. Not a guideline.

            Condoms don’t protect you from STDs or hiv. You are still at risk of acquiring it.

          • k

            Actually linette that article says the study was done in 1995 and then again in 2001 and both times it found asian women to have a higher std rate and this is something that is easily measured as opposed to trying to prove “korean pure blood”, so its probably an accurate study. Point being, not knocking asian women, but point is, they are having just as much risky unprotected outside of marriage sex as everyone else does.

          • linette

            men who have no sexual experience are seen as undesirable just because men who have never …………….

            @k, this is exactly what I am talking about. In the western culture and society, if a men is still a virgin at age 25, he will be either accused of being gay or a loser or something is wrong with him. Or the a b c d you mentioned above. In Chinese culture and society we will just say maybe his parents are strict. He’s a good boy. I knew Chinese guys that are nice looking in their early 20s in ivy league college and they never had girlfriend in their whole lives. Their moms are very strict. They will be like top of the class , play tennis or basketball with a nice body, and play piano or violin. They still live with their parents. Probably still virgin. I also have seen many ugly guys with many girlfriends. High school drop out. Probably lost their virginity at age 13.

            So now you understand the difference in Chinese and western culture and how we perceive things differently in our society.

          • moop

            linnete, what you described not only doesnt sound like a man, but barely sounds like a human being. forced to study his entire life, forced to study violin/piano, forced to not have contact with females, forced to go to the school his parents want for him. sounds like the shell of a human being. i’ve met chinese people like the one you’re describing. they have the social skills of baked potato and cant cope with any changed in their lives.

          • linette

            i’ve met chinese people like the one………..
            moop, I’m one of them.

          • moop

            so, i dont know you as a person. you could be completely inept at social situations, the internet is no proof that you turned out OK. for all i know you are having a tea party with stuffed animals in your bedroom while using your computer

          • Bob Loblaw

            “Condoms don’t protect you from STDs or hiv. You are still at risk of acquiring it.”

            It is absolutely true that condoms do not offer a 100% protection, but still they’re the best thing we got outside of abstinence and should never be neglicted.
            A quick glimpse at the STD infection rate amongst young people in Japan is a good reminder of the condom efficiency and necessity.
            Japanese youngster are quite ignorant when it comes to sexual education and the use of condom is far from being systematic. As a direct consequence Japan has one of the highest STD rate among developped countries.

            Let’s conclude with a fun fact. There are only 5 body fluids that transmit the HIV virus. These are blood, semen, vaginal secretions, pre-ejaculatory fluid and breastmilk.

            That’s all folks !

            sources :
            http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3890689.stm
            http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jscott/gifuinfo/std.html

          • BigJ

            Linette…..Would you marry a “man” who still has his mother controlling his life at the age of 25-30. That is just a child in a man body.I’m sure he’s great at math, but has no clue how to have a relationship with a woman. He don’t have to go around fucking everything that moves, but what’s wrong with dating? If I asked a guy why he was a virgin and he said “well i’ve been on dates, but no girls i would consider marrying.” I would not make fun of this guy. He just has good morals. His parents raised him right and allowed him to make his own choices.Now if a guy said” Oh well, my mom won’t let me have a girlfriend….” I would laugh in his face. Parents are not suppose to control their kids life. They should teach them right and wrong and let them make their own choices. And learn from mistakes they will make.I’d rather make my own choices and them be wrong,and learn from that, then have someone telling how to live my life.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Linette, this may not be helping your argument but I agree with everything you said about a man’s virginity. I’m in my 30s so it would actually be strange to meet a man who is around my age and is still a virgin. However, I feel is perfectlyl normal and acceptable for a man in his 20s to save himself for marriage. I think to wait until the 30s will lead to psychological problems and sexual deviancy.

            I would not prefer a man with a checkered sexual history and would prefer a man who has not been with a lot of women. I don’t like lustful guys or guys peer at me with a desire for sex. It’s a huge turn off.

            A man who is accomplished and worked hard his entirely life is commendable than some guy as you say who lost his virginity at 13. Here’s another tidbit. Guys who lose their virginity as teenagers are not able to last in bed, ie, they blow their wad in two to five minutes. Guys who wait for some reason, can have sex for longer stretches of times.

          • linette

            moop, many folks living in big cities like Hk and big cities in USA are very competitive. My brother and I grew up living in a very competitive environment. It’s considered normal to get good grades and do well in school. We get embarrassed if we don’t. And we don’t need our parents to tell us. It’s just the environment and the society we are living in. If you fail class then something is wrong with you. If you have time in the summer you should do something useful like learn some sport or summer job or play instrument.
            My brother and I worked through out our college years. Never had boyfriend or girlfriend. We dated other people. I know I did. But nothing serious. I didn’t have time. We were always so busy with school and jobs. We lived with our parents and worked so we had money to spend. We took out student loans. Life is like that. Nothing unusual.
            Now I am older. I am independent. I am enjoying what I worked so hard for. I am happy with what I have now.

          • linette

            with stuffed animals in your bedroom while using your computer…
            haha…no,
            More like watching youtube while chatting with you. Or doing my papers on my laptop while chatting with you.

          • linette

            Would you marry a “man” who still has his mother controlling his life at the age of 25-30. …….

            no, I won’t marry to any man who can’t make his own decision 18 or 45 yr old. Man needs to be man. They need to run the show.
            Other than that, I agreed with everything else you said.

          • Hi k, Linette… The article on STDs is useful. However it is vague. There is a chance that Asian women go get tested more regularly or willingly for say chlamydia, a common and entirely treatable condition. One STD is different from another. Also, there are a whole raft of Asian prostitutes and escorts in NY who may be bare-backing. But this means at the other end of the spectrum there are faithful, health-aware good girls. Verdict still out…

          • linette

            richardnorth, hello, where have you been?

            The biggest problem with STds is that it can cause other complication especially in women. The virus can spread into the uterus and fallopian tubes causing pelvic inflammatory disease. It can lead to infertility.
            The virus can be passed from a mother to her baby before or during birth. The infection of a baby may be successfully treated, but in some case a baby can be permanently disabled or even die.
            The virus in females also may be associated with cervical cancer.

      • Efe the foreigner

        why just hope that stupid people wont procreate, theres this awesome thing called eugenics. all the kids are doing it! check it out yo!

    • Alex

      What does not being interested in reproduction and not getting laid have to be with purity?

      I guess you would have to get into his brains, these kind of kids are the ones with most twisted thoughts.

    • Middle Kingdum

      Your “soulmate” is Da Shan?

    • Irvin

      Eattot and her brain farts again.

    • El Puma R.

      yet another chinese girl barking at the wrong tree.

    • mr. wiener

      Eattot, I never picked you for a fag hag :)

  • BigJ

    How many chinamen does it make to beat a woman???? It seems at least 10.
    In all seriousness…..Why did the other guys let this guy kick this woman??? At the very least they should have held him back. Wow….just wow….I don’t know even what to say about this…..and they cut the power off to not just her house, but the neighbors too.WOW….really….for real???really???

    • The guy who was beating her might have been their boss, for instance.

      • BigJ

        Yeah man, you’re probably right. Still a shame :(

      • Xiongmao

        Honestly, in the West this guy would probably never have been promoted to a position of power. Even if, he wouldn’t have kept his job after this. Also I do think there are plenty of Westerners who’d stop their boss if he’s in a rage or drunk out of his mind. Not in China though because -let’s face it- too many people are sheep.

      • cc

        No he wasn’t the boss, the boss would order a minion to kick the shit out of her.

  • I love China.

    If that young lady were my wife, I will cut that dude’s head and all those bastards with him.

    • Rick in China

      If that young lady were your wife, you’d be married to a ridiculously stupid bitch and I’m sure the two of you would have ridiculously stupid babies – that is, if a 3rd party told you that you have to take your clothes *off* and put it in her *vagina* in order to procreate.

      “Cut your own head”, dumb fuck.

      • I love China.

        Are you that lady beater on the video? You seems so upset that someone caught you on act. Gay lover!

        • mr. wiener

          Lady beater= Gay lover…..interesting logical progression.

      • The Enlightened One

        Rick, the last article (on rape) now this one…

        Me thinks you do have some kind of underlying hatred towards women.

        It’s like you always choose the argument of the view against the woman lol.

        • the ace of books

          “Me thinks you do have some kind of underlying hatred towards women.”

          Kinda starting to get that vibe too. Rick’s got some weird shit going on …

        • Rick in China

          I’ve got no hatred for “women”. I also don’t choose sides based on sex. Like I said above, I’m against guys hitting girls. That guy was a fucking tool for even trying to hit her – especially with all those other guys around, he should be ashamed.

          But does that mean I should say “Oh poor little girl”? She behaved like a retarded peasant, destroying someone else’s (or in this case government) property and thought she should walk off without a fine, and started talking shit when they confronted her. She was retarded. I never said that excuses the guy’s behavior, in this case, neither of them are “victims” – the guy deserves a beating, the girl deserves.. I don’t know, to be laughed at for having the common sense of a rock.

          • k

            Rick, if I read the article correctly, in the video, she was confronting them for turning of her electricity a 2nd time, even though she did nothing wrong the 2nd time. She already paid the price the 1st time, this time the officials were in the wrong and she was angry about them turning her electricity off again. Honestly, if the officials had turned your electricity off a 2nd time and you did nothing wrong the 2nd time but they were blaming you for someone else’s actions, wouldn’t you show up to the government building a little pissed off too? I know I would.

      • BigJ

        Yeah Rick…. The girl is not to blame for getting beat…She is to blame for picking flowers on government property…but that’s all. That’s not a reason to beat her. Call the police…that is their job.

        • Rick in China

          I never implied it was. I said earlier I’m vehemently opposed to violence against women. That doesn’t excuse them for being absolutely moronic and picking flowers from someone else/government’s property.

          • Ray

            Yea I’m against women beating too!

            But all women that get beaten and raped are stupid and its always their own fault because they are retarded. Ofcourse I have nothing against women because I am clearly stating that fact right now in this sentence which should absolve me from all indication of me being a sexist.

      • Nanny Hiccups

        what’s so wrong with picking flowers? You can pick a flower outside of teh white house where the president lives and no one will bother you, kick you, or beat you up. this guy was just posturing and being a bully. it’s pathetic. a flower? Something that will die anyway? Crazy.

        • Rick in China

          Hahaha, you can’t pick flowers from the White House’ garden. You, my dear, couldn’t even get to the white house’s garden. How about you make yourself a garden and I’ll come pick all your flowers? No problem, they’ll die anyways, right?

        • lonetrey

          Secret service would be surrounding you with guns for trespassing >_>

          Afterwards, you’d probably get to keep whatever flower you’ve picked though. lol

        • Poltergeist

          God damn it Nanny Hiccups!
          I am planning my next trip to Washington D.C. only for picking up flowers in the White House. I will call Barrack in advance just to make sure that I am not disturbing him and his family, while having a dinner on the veranda. The FBI already gave their okay.

          LOL, you should change your name to Nanny Hilarious!

        • k

          Nanny, you can not pick flowers outside of the White House. Have you actually ever tried to do that? The last time I visited Washington D.C and was around the Capital and the White House, there were tons of armed guards with automatic assault riffles standing around watching and if you even accidently wondered into a “non tourist” designated area, they immediately would loom over you and escort you back.

      • k

        That was unecessarily vulgar Rick. He was just stating what any man would be feeling if they saw another man beat their wife. I know my own husband would try to defend me if a group of chinese guys were trying to beat me up. And don’t bring babies into this, they’re adorables and innocent. Normally, I try to see your side on issues, but I can’t this case. These men were wrong to blame her for picking roses the 2nd time, which she didn’t do, and they were wrong to cut her electricity off again for no reason. They were even more wrong to use violence against her, when a call to the police would of been just as easy and appropriate. There is no justification here for their actions, and this woman was a victim.

      • markx

        Rick, she seems like a person of some determination and strength to me. I imagine I would like her.

        I’m sure she’d be a bit much threat to a manly guy like you…. (though you seem a bit of a ‘rule-following minion’).

    • Jin

      First it was her own fault for going around picking private property flowers..not just private but a CHINESE GOVERNMENT PROPERTY you have to be pretty stupid to do such a thing.

      If you lived in China and experienced some of the Chinese women you know they can drive a person crazy to the point of murder. Granted he should not have lashed out at her but its a product of her own doing.

      She didn’t get hurt and learn a lesson not to be stupid and do reckless things.

      • mr. wiener

        You really think she learnt a lesson from this other than hatred of petty officialdom?

      • k

        There is never any excuse what-so-ever for a 200lbish man to beat up on a 100 lb woman, especially in front of a little child, who could of easily tried to “defend” it’s mother and gotten hurt. I don’t care how infuriating or inciting that woman was, the man had no right to even touch her (to think other wise, justifies domestic abuse in a country where it is already a rampant problem). He should of called police to come get her if she was badgering him, but putting his hands on her like that, is an absolute wrong and he needs to be in prison for assault.

      • markx

        Jin…. BOW to authority you USELESS prick…!!

        THIS is what is wrong with the world … write down a rule, and then it does not matter WHAT it is or what the meaning or intent was…

        You will then get a heap of USELESS morons telling you:

        “YEP, them’s the rules… shoulda followed the RULES…”

        Jin… you now epitomize to me EVERYTHING that is wrong with this world…

        • Jin

          Every country have rules and laws, we also have rules and laws how to behavior with people or family and work place.

          If you do not like it pack up and go live in a the forest and you can be as feral as you like.

          No one “beat” up anyone from this video they were just trying to get her off the goverment property which she was trespassing on.

          They have work to do why should they have to waste time calling and waiting for the police when all they wanted was for her to leave?

          • mr. wiener

            I predict your attitude on the matter will change the first time someone in a position of author mistakes you for a nobody [or perhaps recognizes you as a nobody] and gives you a good bitch slappin’.
            I can almost hear the sound of shrill screams and squeaky denunciations punctuated by the steady sound of a hand smacking a face now.
            I hope someone films it.

          • markx

            Private rule No. 1, Jin:

            If a government rule or law seems unreasonable, excessive, or improper, or is excessively applied, and you are in a position where you can, you should protest!

            Many a country has come to grief because people believe all they are told and then blindly follow the rules associated with that belief. (Japan and Germany spring to mind, some other great powers perhaps now teeter on this brink).

  • rollin wit 9’s

    Lets all beat up BigJ for sitting on a government sofa.

    And just out of curiosity, when you all envisioned the sofa in your heads, what color was it. It was red for me. Dunno why but every time i think sofa and c.smack the sofa in my head is red.
    Please input id like to know what color the sofa is in your heads. Serious comments only.
    ( i know im asking too much when i say that –; )

    • Rick in China

      A pink dildo shaped sofa. Only fags call “sofa”.

    • BigJ

      When I envisioned this sofa the color was “commie red” and as I was sitting on it I was getting head from this woman while I gently patting her on the back and telling her” everything will be alright”.
      SPLASH!!!!

      • Tranxenne

        you forgot : “while her 3-year-old son was watching”.

        • BigJ

          HAHA, you got me good there. :) I forgot he was watching hahaha. Oh well, he learned a lesson on how to properly treat a woman. :)
          And before all you girls have something bad to say to me,….it was joke:)lol

        • Efe the foreigner

          checkmate

    • linette

      Lets all beat up BigJ for sitting on a government sofa………

      BigJ, no matter what you do, don’t sit on the China gov’t sofa. If they catch you they will beat the shxt out of you. You know China corrupt officials are not big on following laws. Just make sure you have money to bribe them to get out of beating. ;)

      • BigJ

        They only physically pick on their own kind…. I have nothing to worry about:)

    • lonetrey

      Sofas are generally beige, black, or white in my mind. I don’t know, I seem to go with non-flashy colors for furniture.

      • rollin wit 9’s

        i agree. not that i would ever buy a red sofa. but somehow its stuck in my head.

        As for you BigJ i doubt yours is completely ‘commie red’ lest you have perfect aim ^^; (note to self: never sit on the sofa in BigJ’s place)

        • BigJ

          I swear the stains were there BEFORE I bought the sofa….honest… haha:)

      • Efe the foreigner

        for the love of all thats good, please explain this sofa thing. i cant sleep because of this sofa thing, i have spent hours searching for the original…… help a cracker rest peacefully……

        • BigJ

          I don’t understand it either, I just know if you are the first to post of one these things, you just make some stupid comment about a sofa. Chinese people love that shit . haha

  • rollin wit 9’s

    was she trying to text for back up, continue playing cell phone game or what? I love how chinese cant focus on the issue at hand LOL. Getting beat to death and still playing with her cell phone.

    after continuing playback… this has to be something cultural. I just dont understand sitting on the ground being extra passive while your surrounded and getting hit, kicked and yelled at. Never saw my bosnian, viet, korean, american, jap, german, swede, french, brazilian, mex, and all other friends sit down like that. NEVER!

    • She is sitting down because she thinks this will stop them from hitting her, which seems to work to a point.

      As for her texting on the phone, it is a bit strange, but perhaps she is trying to call for reinforcements.

      • the ace of books

        What Jixiang said, on both counts. What I’m wondering is who was filming – the above-mentioned ‘reinforcements’, maybe?

        • BigJ

          I think her husband was filming while pissing his pants :)

    • Xiongmao

      I’d think she was trying to call the police or something or at least text for help. It’s highly illegal to prevent someone calling the police in any society. That the fat corrupt bully is trying to take her phone is 15 automatic days in jail in China and at least a charge or two. The assault alone would land the guy 2-6 months in jail in the West.

      • Kukuku

        “That the fat corrupt bully is trying to take her phone is 15 automatic days in jail in China and at least a charge or two.”

        AHAHAHAHAHAH! MY SIDES! AHAHAHAHA!

        • Xiongmao

          I’m speaking about what the law says, I know it’s never going to happen if course. Preventing people calling the police is actually a pretty serious matter legally.

          • simon

            Actually, if she had called the police i think they would automatically place her in jail for 15 days haha

  • MrT

    Chinese men weakest species on the planet.
    It will be the women who beat the Japanese into submission and win their Island back.

  • Thunderbird

    I really appreciate the Chinese culture and language.. but sometimes I get myself thinking… what a disgusting country…
    Kinda, look at these beasts surrounding the woman.
    THANKS GOD I live in Japan!

    • Rod

      Do you live on the Bukkake Islands? If so, then you’re actually in China!

      • hooots

        Japan is the Bukkake Islands.

        • Thunderbird

          again, THANK GOD I live in Japan ^^V

  • Cynic

    Who knows how much obscene yelling and disturbance she caused before these guys wanted to beat her up.

    I’ve seen Chinese women argue unreasonably. She might have deserved worse.

    • BigJ

      Just call the police…..let them take deal with it. This guy is like fucking Judge Dredd….”I AM THE LAW!!!”Put down your weapon/Iphone and prepare to be judged!!!! haha

      • Bo Xilai For Emperor

        LOL hahaha, oh hey the remake is coming this fall isn’t it?

        • BigJ

          Yeah, that’s what made me think of it :) I watched a preview for it the other day, it looks pretty good:)

          • linette

            I AM THE LAW!!!”Put down your weapon/Iphone and prepare to be judged!!!! haha………

            hahah…that’s a good one. Alll the china officials think they are judge dred. They beat the shxt out of you and judge you right there. terrible… I saw the poster of judge dred on a bus.

          • Bo Xilai For Emperor

            I sure hope this remake won’t be as bad as the total recall remake, the ending sucked ass literally

          • BigJ

            Yeah the new total recall was kind of shit…..I don’t know why they used the same names but totally different story. Most remakes are kind of shit…like the new “Conan” movie.

          • Cooljackal

            Yup, the old movies were campy but entertaining. You should watch the following old arnie movies:

            Commando (one man taking down an entire drug cartel)
            Raw Deal (one man against the mafia)
            Predator (one man [kinda] against one alien)
            The Running Man (one man and woman against the system)
            Total Recall (one man and woman against a corporation)

            I didn’t include Terminator because the style was a bit different.

          • Bo Xilai For Emperor

            Yeah, the recent remakes are kinda ruining the old classics…I sure hope they don’t remake “Forrest Gump” with Robert Pattinson

          • rollin wit 9’s

            @coolJackal: you forgot Kindergarten cop – one man taking on an entire kindergarten class.

          • rollin wit 9’s

            am i trolling? The answer is no.

          • rollin wit 9’s

            was I trolling there? The answer is yes.

          • linette

            entire kindergarten class….I love arnold in the movie kindergarten.
            One kid in the movie was like what is your father’s occupation?

            “My daddy looks at vagina the whole day.”

            He is a gynecologist. hahhaa..lol…;)

    • Xiongmao

      Dumbass. I have no doubt she’d been kicked out before and was still venting (with good cause since she wasn’t the one who’d taken the second round of crappy flowers). In that case you get security to escort her away or call the police. Unless you’re a total retard you don’t go out there yourself to assault a 90 pound woman with a child. No, this guy needs to go.

    • Misiooo

      Not in front of her kid.

    • Brett Hunan

      Sooo… because you have seen a Chinese woman act unreasonably before, this woman may have deserved worse than the beating she recieved… even though we don’t know the full story from this article. Good logic jackass.

    • markx

      Cynic, Sep13, 2012 at 12:03 pm said:

      “…..Who knows how much obscene yelling and disturbance she caused before these guys wanted to beat her up…. I’ve seen Chinese women argue unreasonably. She might have deserved worse….”

      Bloody Hell. Cynic. Hard to believe you really think like this? You can make your twisted ratty mind think up a scenario where those men are actually being reasonable? (…and obviously you still fail in the effort …. perhaps if she had been using a flamethrower on them physical attacks may have been justified…)

      What is wrong with some of you people?

  • Big Ben

    So what’s up with the “harmonious society” in China? Why does this man/pig need to hit a woman? China still has a long ways to go in order to be considered a civilized country. Government officials beating females is not going to help China develop.

    The locals need to find this government official aka Mr. PIG and take him to a local butcher. This PIG needs to be slaughtered. At least the locals will get a free BBQ….

    • the ace of books

      “This PIG needs to be slaughtered. At least the locals will get a free BBQ….”

      But … I don’t think you can get fava beans OR a nice Chianti in China…

      • mr. wiener

        Green soy beans and Mao Tai then. Any beans is good with human beans.

        • the ace of books

          But snozzcumbers is good with nothing.

          ….aaaaaand I’ve just realized that 苦瓜 look a whole lot like mini-sized snozzcumbers.

  • the ace of books

    “There’s no sound, what was said at the time, does anyone care? Everybody gets angry as soon as they heard it’s about officials.”

    Always so easy to spot a 五毛党. As if shoving her the second they walk out the door, then ganging up on her and kicking her around while she’s talking would be excuseable in some mysterious context. That it’s in front of her kid just pushes it across the line.

  • The Enlightened One

    Okay, she was maybe foolish to charge in like that… but IT WAS the government’s mistake if you read the article clearly enough. Two other people picked the flowers and she was blamed for it because they thought she was trying to taunt them after the first incident.

    So, of course she is going to be upset because all her neighbors are all pissed at her yet again. Sure, she probably went a little crazy but does she deserve to get beaten by a government official with her son there watching?

    This is why so many foreigners think Chinese men are incredibly weak and definitely the inferior gender in China.

    • the ace of books

      I was with you til the last paragraph.

      I’d like to offer an alternate reason for the dickishness: it’s not because they’re men, it’s because they’re in power, they’ve gotten there by being little emperors, and they’re behaving like they did when they were five, essentially. “Mommy gimme gimme, you won’t gimme? (kick) gimme (kick) gimme!”

      I wouldn’t say that all Chinese men are like this, but when a certain type gets some power in his hands, he figures the world to be at his beck and call. It’s like kids on the playground: pecking order by size, only for “size” substitute “status”.

      Also, let me note not all in power act like this. Playground analogy again: it’s only the kids nobody likes, because they’re little dicks.

      • The Enlightened One

        I agree with you partially. Not all Chinese men are like, but guys like this are certainly creating a strong stereotype.

        The problem is I see a lot of men shoving around their girl friends, smacking them in public, roughing pulling them by the arm and generally acting like they own them. And these are people that are not in power.

        If the people in power set an example like this, the rest of the people think they can do it too.

        • Nick in Beijing

          Just this morning coming out of the subway on my way to work I saw a guy, maybe 19 or so, lower class migrant worker, yanking his girlfriend by the arm and throwing her around in circles to keep her off balance enough that he could keep pulling her.

          Of course no one nearby lifted a finger to help or said a single word. I shoulder checked him against the trunk of a car as I walked past, and just kept walking (not going to get deep into a confrontation with another Chinese guy over this kind of shit), and looked back.

          He seemed to clam up after he lifted himself off the hood of the car, but I’m sure as soon as I was out of his line of site he went right on back to what he was doing.

          Poor girl.

          Stupid guy.

          That’s not to mention all the times I saw men telling their girlfriends and wives in commanding voices to do things like: Tie their shoes for them, open the door for them, hurry up and get that open seat and then let me sit down.

    • Wu

      100% agree. Its the Chinese women I worry about.

      8-10 Men come out, start pushing around 1 little woman. Right away, 2-3 other women show up, grab the kid and try to get between the men and the first woman ( didnt really get to mixed up in the pushing, but I would guess they are asking them to calm down ).

      If I had just seen a mob of men push down a person, I would hesitate, and with fewer people on my “side” I would probly try to pull her back, not move right in. Those women were pretty brave by my accounts.

    • Jin

      From the video she was not beaten just pushed around alittle and you can not hear what provoking words was coming from her mouth.

      • mr. wiener

        Oh. I guess that makes it OK then.

      • markx

        I just realized that you must be trolling Jin …. I was thinking surely no-one could be that stupid…. but I forgot about those who simply like to troll… yep, it worked… ya got me all fired up!

        • Jin

          No not trolling just simply pointing out if this woman didn’t do something that she was not suppose to then none of this would have happened.

          She is a victim of her own making so suck it up and learn your lesson.

  • yeah cruel chinese at it again. Chinese have a very rotten society, no wonder they want to get out of china. STUPID FUCKING WOMEN BEATERS. MAY THEY ALL HAVE BAD LUCK IN THEIR LIFE

  • Nanny Hiccups

    i used to think those kung fu movies i watched were ridiculous. the plot always involved a local boss or a local government official or governor who is bullying the people until the kung fu hero crosses his path and trouble ensues. every single old kung fu movie is like this, turns out, china really does have government official bullies. it’s absolutely crazy.

    • The Enlightened One

      Yeah, unfortunately there is no Kung fu hero in these stories. Where is that dude that flying-jump kicked that nutter stabbing those security guards when you need him?

      China needs more people like that.

  • Xiongmao

    What a disgusting piece of shit. If he doesn’t get fired and charged with assault and preventing people from calling the police this country is too fucked up to be correctable. Also, what the fuck is wrong with his slimy co-workers? No one stops the fat fuck. If it’s to stand that she was NOT the one picking flowers the second time this is a gross perversion of justice, not to mention the blackmailing by punishing others for her deeds. Come to think of it, at least a handful of people ought to be fired over this. If someone had done this to my wife in front of my kid, if I were that douchebag I’d be looking over my shoulder constantly, ‘coz one day I’d be there with a bike lock and a pair of pliers.

  • lonetrey

    If I were there, I would’ve intervened. Consequences be damned, I cannot just stand by and do nothing. Unless the guy had a knife or a gun, I don’t see why people didn’t interfere… the worse they would’ve gotten is a black eye.

    • The Enlightened One

      Nah, that isn’t entirely true. China doesn’t work like that…

      Some people are afraid of getting involved because they fear the reprisal from the government. They may get thrown in jail for no reason, their power turned off, whatever stupid ass reason the official can make up. Especially, if the person that intervened was not rich and had guan xi.

      I am with you though, I would have stopped them too. A foreigner MAY be deported… but at least I can look into the mirror every day without feeling like a punk.

      • Kukuku

        Exactly, a bruise will heal over time but one’s honor will remain tarnished if nothing is done. I intervened in the past and will do so again. Guys beating girls here stop when they see a real man standing up for their victim.

    • Dat Ankle

      Even if she was screaming her head off at them, its is no way to act as employees of the state. The fact that so many of them ganged up on her gets me more angry. I really wonder how long China will stay in this state of mind before people start expressing their angry, the lot of them seem to just blow it off on the comment section.

  • hooots

    These men remind me of a pack of feral dogs, except less civil.

  • Pong Lenis

    Come on, she is just getting harmonized.

  • 文志明

    为人民的幸福 by beat up the 老百姓 great job comrade!

  • glenn

    Hitting a girl is wrong enough, doing it in front of a child?
    Oh well, netizens will clamor but the government will ignore.

  • Jahar

    I wonder how many of the people above(Chinese commenters) that condemn this sort of thing are the same guys who get in a brawl at work, or to get on a bus. Or would do the same thing if their boss said to.

    It’s mind-boggling that fisticuffs is an acceptable activity for Chinese professionals.

  • Cassidi

    No man in sight~

  • markus

    “Is patriotism about loving these bastards? Why should we be patriotic then?”

    NO! Patriotism is about loving your contry not you’re government! Why do Chinese people always mix that up!?!

    • The Enlightened One

      I agree…

      But unfortunately, they are strongly brainwashed as young children to think of their leaders as their country. Not all of them accept the brainwashing but the majority do….

      I think it is starting to break though. I can see massive cracks and snaps as people are starting to realize that the government…. well MJ said it best in his song… “All I really want to say, is that that they don’t really care about us.”

    • moop

      because in china patriotism and nationalism are the same thing. most dont know the difference

    • XiaoHei

      Why love the country too? It’s just a piece of land claimed by a group of people.

  • Thunderbird
  • The Enlightened One

    This is exactly what the people of China should do. Every instance they have with the government, they should have someone secretly or openly filming the whole event.

    If things go wrong and the official acts like an idiot/violent whatever… upload it EVERYWHERE… This is possibly the only means the people have to fight the corrupt officials.

    This will teach the government that the world is watching them and to behave themselves, not like a pack of wild dogs. Well, either that or they will just find more stories about bad foreigners and then point to us and blame us… Probably the latter…

  • deloren

    While i dont condone the actions of the official , it is quite clear that he was set up by the woman as well. She must have intentionally said very insulting things to get him worked up to capture his reactions on camera

    • MrT

      yea it was a total Chinese woman set up, classic in every way.
      Still it shows how weak an stupid Chinese men are, fall for it every time.

  • jeffli

    China’s govt officials all seem to be mean SOBs

    So a few girly girls picked a few roses, Big F’n Whoopee!

    that little lady would probably weigh 45kgs? the guy? 75kgs? What a weak piece of trash that govt. official is.

    the poor lil church mouse of a woman gets her 5 minutes of happiness to hold , cherish something beautiful in this stinking rotten world. to hold a rose, to cherish its beauty, to enjoy its hypnotic fragrance, a few minutes of bliss and the sisterfkr govt official wants to belt her. C’mon!

    that is not right under any sun,moon or stars.
    What about those other men? they were brave weren’t they? real heroes!

    Whats the address of this place? Lets flood them with letters!

    • Kukuku

      Ahahahhaha! MY SIDES I SAY! ahaha!

  • diverdude

    small wonder so many Chinese ladies seek to date non-Chinese men.

    • Sean

      This is one of the reasons I hear very frequently, indeed!

  • Dr Dust Cell

    Vid made me lol so hard.

  • Cleo

    In the home province of Confucianism, REALLY? Well, he has to be officially fired and then arrested for assault. He’s hired to push paper not to whack Moms however larcenous.

    Every time, superiors punish these mishires then the government absolves itself. Every time, one of these demons remains in place unpunished showing the masses that this is a world without justice is when the government becomes an accomplice in the crimes.

    • mr. wiener

      Aaarrrgh…..Cleo is making sense!! My brain is exploding!!

      • BigJ

        I think hell may freeze over now lol :)

    • the ace of books

      Cl-Cleo? Is that really you?

  • Getrealson

    Now you know why, when the commies took over and redistributed wealth, the common folk took knives/pitch forks to the wealthy/powerful! Another example of why communism doesn’t work. Chinese will always be Chinese. Poor before/rich now! no difference just a shift in power.

    Look how tough he thinks he is! How fast the CUNT would run if a man approached him with evil intentions.

  • moop

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19409187

    i dont think this will be covered by this site, so thought i’d share it

    • MrT

      BBC= British Bullshiting Company.
      Wonder where James Reynolds is sniffling.

      • moop

        hurrrrrrrr

    • Brett Hunan

      “now no more than two flies are allowed in any public toilet.”

      I swear, officials must get high and laugh about all the laws they write down regarding cleanliness and the environment. They all pretty much sound like that one.

  • k

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo this made me so angry watching the video….what a bunch of pieces of **** to beat a small woman in front of her baby. I wish horrible things to happen to these so called “men”. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

    • mr. wiener

      Angry, but not terribly surprised I’m guessing.

      • The Enlightened One

        I don’t think any of us were surprised.

        The kid probably isn’t even surprised. lol

    • Jennster

      no need to be angry. just ignore those types and befriend the good ones (which you can pick from certain male commenters here)

    • simon

      i think the word “beat” is a slightly exaggerated term, i’d agree she was kicked a few times, but looking at the impact it wasn’t full on blows it was just minor swipes like kungfu kicking the air. I looked at the vid a few times and it looks like she stumbled to the ground herself, nobody physically forced her onto the ground.

      I was reading the comments before i saw the video, and i was expecting a whole bunch of men to be beating the shit out of this woman. I sort of agree with the no force against women saying, but what happens when a woman becomes un-bearable and won’t stop intentionally agitating you, just because you shouldn’t use force against women does it give women free reign to annoy the hell out of men?

      Genuinely not trolling, just something i was thinking about.

  • Jennster

    shandong people smell like garlic.

  • danny

    a man hitting a woman is wrong. but non of us did not know what was said there. i do understand that sometimes people piss other people off really hard. it could be that this woman was trying her luck to get away from the 1000 rmb fine by being talking BS.

  • Efe the foreigner

    four every one dickhead foreigner in china, there seems to be about 20 dickhead chinese. but in the secretariat class, dickheads grow exponentially.

  • Sharillon

    Some strange comments here. “All the fault of men.”

    I experienced totally different situations when I was in China. To me it seemed that in China more women are beating up their husbands/bfs on the street than in any other country. I saw at least 2-3 women each month just kicking and punching their husbands or bfs on the street. Never experienced that in my country or other countries I travel to (mainly europe though)

    • Jennster

      It’s kind of equal equal in terms of this issue. lol

    • MrT

      This is correct, Chinese women do publicly like to beat the men, usually in gangs so the man cant escape.
      People shouldn’t go thinking women are hard done to here. Usually men banging a woman out here is because they get sick of the beatings and snap.

  • Orthodox

    Imagine it was the Tai Chi lady. All those government officials would have been flying left and right after touching her.

    • linette

      Imagine it was the Tai Chi lady….

      hahahha…

  • Sean

    Wow, fully grown Chinese government official beta-males ganging up on a woman half of any of their sizes.

    Chinese men are huge fucking pussies, why is this video surprising?

  • Tony

    Where are all those brave men who rioted when a westerner slapped a woman?

    • Still boiling in anger because they saw a foreigner yesterday walking down the street.

      • Jin

        what u still doing here?

      • The Enlightened One

        Lol…

    • Kodi

      Hey man haven’t you got the memo? THIS IS CHINA! Only Chinese men have the right to beat on women here!

  • When you pick flowers, you’re destroying the plant. They need those flowers to reproduce. This is why China is a barren wasteland of no plants.
    (PS: This is not justifying her being beaten, but it is justifying her getting fined.)

    • MrT

      More flowers here then Holland…

      • markus

        the way they delt with the flower picking was extreem.
        they could have just given her a warning that IF she does it again she would have to pay a fine.

        i dont think cutting off the power to the buildings near her is legal…

        • The fine was justified for the first offense. It was public property and she was picking them. She can either grow her own or go buy them. It would be far better anyway to let a damned flowering plant grow without it being destroyed for the sake a vase looking pretty for about four days.

          • Again, that’s not to say that they have a right to beat her or harass her like that, aside from standard legal procedure after she refuses to pay a fine.

          • markx

            “…not to say that they have a right to beat her or harass her like that, aside from standard legal procedure after she refuses to pay a fine….”

            This above being the point of the whole discussion:

            That their RESPONSE is bad, excessive, unreasonable, arrogant, and wrong….!

            NOT whether picking flowers from a government garden is a good or bad thing to do.

  • Slob

    Look at these fat fucking useless cunts once again abusing their authority. Silly cocksuckers always look the same – Black pants held up by a belt that stretches around their huge bellies, shiny black shoes, white dull shirt, round face with a shitty hairstyle most likely a combover, keys dangling off their belts and their precious iphones in a belt cover.

    Good thing is that these pathetic corrupt fucks don’t have a clue how to punch or kick so she wasn’t seriously hurt. They look like spaghetti flopping about the place when they try hurt someone.

    • Jennster

      LOL. it’s this:
      1. round flabby face with tan skin
      2. hunch backed
      3. hands behind back
      4. walking slow and looking around at random people with ghey expression
      5. black pants held by a belt covering their huge bellys
      6. oversized similar looking black/brown jacket
      7. weird smell

      • bigJ

        Wow…that’s 100% right :)

  • andywattbulb

    Fuck the roses. They have to get pruned eventually.

  • kevinnolongerinpudong

    Who cares about that lady! Only a fellow human being! Protect the Diaoyu Islands!

  • WhitePanda

    I wish they’d take down the picture of the guy getting a blow job while looking at me with lust in his eyes. It’s creepy.

    • Jin

      If she did this in a black country she be gang raped and tortured before getting her head cut off. she she should be so lucky to try this anti social behavior in china and all she got was pushed around.

      • moop

        troll much dummy?

        • Jin

          No..Black countries are the most dangerous with no law at all and she was clearly at fault for being so foolish to start with. Even pick flowers in a public park would make more sense then going into a goverment building and trying that shit.

          • WhitePanda

            You forgot to mention Aids.

          • Jin

            Blacks and Aids are a given..since they are the first to catch it and spread it to the rest of the world.

      • You mean like black countries like Bermuda and Bahamas? Yeah, good call, shit-fer-brains

        • mr. wiener

          Ladies and Gentlemen I give you a good example of the ruling elite of China, rich [in their own minds] , arrogant, bigoted and ignorant:
          Take a bow Jin.

          The Yanks bless ’em always had some agenda about making the world a better place, even if they wanted to enrich themselves in the process. And as we all know the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
          The Chinese will have no such scruples. If they get to the top , and it still remains a big “if” ,God help us all.

    • the ace of books

      Ditto. Every time I look at that picture I make this face:

      http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/are-you-serious-face-seriously

  • the real thing

    dirty chinese scumbag woman beater,try me for size you fat bastard

  • maja

    “Hurry and go to war. Fuck, none of us want war, us ordinary commoners all want peace, but I really wish for war, to reshuffle [the state of things in China, start again]. Even losing is fun, because fucking at least these scumbags won’t have it well either. We can’t punish with them while we’re alive, so let the artillery shells without eyes kill these scum. To hell with the slogan on TV saying they [government officials] are the sons of the people, [they’re just] animals.”

    chills….

  • Kodi

    I would love to get in a boxing ring for two minutes one on one with 50 party officials every day, just so I could have an outlet for my frustrations built up over the last year in China. I like most people, but the only problem is that there are so many non-thinkers and non-feelers. Its like there is no humanity in some people.

  • Wayne Morris

    hey dude, come and fight with me…man vs man…you bloody coward,7 men beating one woman…shame shame shame on you chinese goverment official, YOU DO NOT HAVE COURAGE FIGHT WITH JAPAN FOR DIAOYU ISLAND

  • Neuchy

    I counted 9 or 10 pathetic cowards and bullies in the video, I wonder how many more there are inside the building?

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