Beijing Lesbian Couple Seeking Marriage Registration Refused

Elsie and Mayu are walking out of Dongcheng District Social Service Center .

From NetEase:

Two Lesbian Lovers in Beijing Rejected for Marriage Registration

February 25, Beijing, lesbian lovers Elsie and Mayu headed to the marriage registry in an attempt to register their marriage, but were politely turned down by the working staff.

Elsie and Mayu are standing outside the Dongcheng District Social Service Center.

Elsie and Mayu standing outside Dongcheng District Social Service Center.

Elsie and Mayu are leaving Dongcheng District Social Service Center.

Elsie and Mayu leaving the Dongcheng District Social Service Center.

Elsie and Mayu are talking to a reporter.

Elsie and Mayu being interviewed.

Elsie and Mayu are talking to actor Pu Cunxin.

Elsie and Mayu talking to actor Pu Cunxin while on their way to Dongcheng District Social Service Center.

Elsie and Mayu are kissing each other.

 Mayu are kissing each other.

Elsie and Mayu kissing before trying to register their marriage.

Elsie and Mayu are walking out of Dongcheng District Social Service Center.

Elsie and Mayu walking out of Dongcheng District Social Service Center after being turned down for a marriage registration.

Elsie and Mayu are kissing on the street.

Elsie and Mayu kissing on the street.

Elsie and Mayu are holding hands.

Elsie and Mayu holding hands while on their way to Dongcheng District Social Service Center

Comments from NetEase:

国军威武 [网易山东省青岛市网友]:

Resolutely oppose lesbian marriages, vigorously promote gay marriages, you understand [know what I’m getting at].

十五年前能下河洗澡 [网易北京市网友]:

Pu Cunxin sure is low-profile [humble, unpretentious]~~

gree_fuzhaoc [网易海南省网友]:

Very curious, how do they keep sexually happy?

trrduke [网易广东省深圳市网友]: (responding to above)

Sexual happiness is of course brought about one’s own hands!

天下三玩家12778304 [网易江苏省淮安市网友]:

Nine-Yin soybean milk machine, good soybean milk is all it ever makes.

养老空帐是工人阶级的青春 [网易浙江省宁波市网友]:

LES, should be responsible for single men.

经方中医 [网易浙江省金华市网友]:

I think it’s disgusting!
Two perfectly good children, and instead of learning good things, they instead go learn that Western homosexuality stuff?
If you are really lesbians, then go ahead and love each other, and just keep it to your own bed.
But instead you parade your laughable behavior in public, under scornful eyes,
And consider doing so as noble, as proud, and even treat it as trendy/fashionable!
I simply do not believe you two girls won’t have children in the future,
and when your children see your photos and videos from today,
what will they feel?
How will you explain?
Would you explain that you were young, ignorant, and fearless?
Or that your dirty cunts were simply seduced by dildos and thought it represented great and glorious freedom and human rights?

烈烈烈 [网易四川省成都市网友]: (responding to above)

In my opinion, [people should] show more tolerance toward this group of people… Although I don’t endorse it, but since they have already made this kind of choice, there’s no need to forcibly separate them… Of course, I’m just making an irresponsible remark, because if my own children did this, I don’t know sort of reactions I would have.

漂泊今天 [网易北京市网友]: (responding to above)

The problem is that today’s homosexuals are becoming more and more high-profile/bombastic. Children are not mentally matured, and are easily influenced by these things (gay culture). Research shows, when children in adolescence, and when adults are frustrated in relationships with the opposite sex, they can very easily change their sexual orientations when tempted by the same sex, and become homosexuals or bisexuals. The chances of our children being influenced by homosexuality is getting larger and larger, aren’t you afraid?

xq18701028388 [网易北京市网友]: (responding to above)

If homosexuality were made [illegal] like prostitution, I’d like to see who would still do it. Sad. And it would be even more sad if it was legalized. We can only keep our distance from these types of people.

网易广东省深圳市网友 ip:14.120.*.*: (responding to above)

Homosexuality is like the urge to relieve yourself. You have the right to go to the bathroom, and please close the door. But you can’t just urinate and defecate wherever you please! These loud out-of-the-closet homosexuals are exactly like the wantonly defecated poop on the streets…

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  • Rick in China

    Unsurprising result. What’s surprising is that it’s a story. What’d they really expect to happen in China… seems like nothing more than an attempt at passively protesting which will have zero influence on the masses.

    • Kai

      I dunno about that. Part of the LGBT movement’s aims is to increase exposure of homosexuality so that it becomes less of a taboo phenomenon, getting the masses to accept it as “normal” instead of “strange”, so there’s less marginalization of LGBT members and their interests (like the right to get married).

      Stories like this wouldn’t be published in the past because it’d be seen as possibly promoting LGBT, so the publishing of it can be seen as society becoming more comfortable with discussing the issue. Those against homosexuality even often see reporting like this as a liberal conspiracy to mainstream homosexuality, so I don’t think it is surprising that this is a story.

      The reporter/editor could have their own agenda in publishing such a story, or they might not have any agenda at all, and simply think it is newsworthy by whatever criteria they have. One news report won’t likely have much influence on the masses, but aren’t most shifts in social norms the result of gradual changes? The habit of smoking didn’t become passe because of one report, but because of tons of anti-smoking reporting over time.

  • slob

    One of the comments from a Chinese netizen :

    “Two perfectly good children, and instead of learning good things, they instead go learn that Western homosexuality stuff?”
    Will it ever stop?

    • Kate

      well you know western civilization is just ruining china. Western men manage to steal all chinese women and the only ones left over are gay, which is also our fault.

      • Dr Sun

        Oh no !! back to the small penis v’s big penis argument.

        Time to make some popcorn and await the trolls.

        Thank’s Kate.

        • Kate

          ^_^♥ Well you can eat popcorn, I happen to have a baked ham, sweet and salty fried fish cake, homemade potato salad, strawberry pudding pie, and southern sweet tea! Ill mail you a plate :)

          • Ko

            This is why you’re fat

          • Kate

            Yeah probably (^_^)

        • quake

          america pushing chinese girls to disgrace themselves

          • Dr Sun

            you know she’s American, not Chinese, right ?

    • Timea B

      yeah cuzobviously homosexuality never existed in China LOL. These netizens should go and look up their own history. They would be suprised to find some very gay emperors in the precious Chinese lineup!

      • La Mano Gaucha

        Very gay indeed…

        • the ace of books

          Happiest men in the empire, I assure you!

    • Terrik

      Well, aren’t they always talking about their 5,000 years of glorious history? More than anyone else? Perhaps it should be rephrased to “Chinese homosexuality stuff”

      • Hongwu Emperor

        Homossexuality is something quite old really. be it in asia or classical europe [greece.rome,etc]…

        • mr.wiener

          If we could have a window to the past doubtlessly we would see gay cavemen.

          • manujoro

            Hahaha! A particular type of horny gay pre-historic man even has a scientific name: Homo Erectus!

          • mr.wiener

            lo nice one

          • Hongwu Emperor

            lol, that was smart

          • Jahar

            Sorry about this, but, can we call them gayvemen?

          • mr.wiener

            Only if they are the pitcher, not the catcher.

    • La Mano Gaucha

      To be honest, that Chinese comment was “typical” and retarded, but I think that *many* mainland folks would support them getting married. They even make a rather cute couple and obviously love each other…

    • quake

      far worse things are happening lesbian is dwarfed by black men f@#$ chinese girls

      http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1686841657

      • La Mano Gaucha

        As far as the imbecile local posters are concerned, that’s about as messed up as some “monkey” shooting his wad on the red flag.

        Anyway, I loved the way she talked dirty at the end. I would have popped a much bigger one. Nice girl!

      • mr.wiener

        You are not supposed to post porn on here nimrod.

        • vincent

          Didn’t you know this is all part of his “research”, tsk tsk quake you could have made a pie chart or something.

          • BiggJ

            Yeah, a cream pie chart. hahah

          • vincent

            hahaha good one!

          • mr.wiener

            His keyboard is stuck together.

      • filabusta

        Thank goodness you picked a link thats also available in China.

    • mr.wiener

      I thought the Chinese invented everything. You mean we in the west invented lesbians? coool!!

      • filabusta

        So that’s what pride means.

        • mr.wiener

          I always wondered why we had those pride marches. It’s to celebrate this massive cultural achievment.
          And nascar and tractor pulling are celebrate ignorance.
          I’ve learnt so much today :)

          • manujoro

            We, Chinese, invented the missionary position! In your face!

          • mr.wiener

            We invented French kissing…..And the dirty Sanchez, on your face!

          • manujoro

            lol… and for which you thank you!

      • slob

        I guess we invented homosexuality, rape, abortion, divorce, and pregnancy too.

        • Nick in Beijing

          that is right, because in china children are born from their mother’s armpits.

          • carmouflagger

            Man, you just painted a weird-ass picture in my head :|

          • Hongwu Emperor

            No, the armpit theory is good, but another one is better. It’s legendary… our people is born from a massive slab of jade coming out from the mountains…
            Every time someone is born, the earth trembles and a slab of jade appears, giving birth to another warrior!!

            lol…

  • thmswhnr

    They could probably qualify for asylum in some perverse Western homosex-loving nation, having faced this kind of discrimination and humiliation in a public forum.

    • Archie

      Like many other Chinese who fear or despise having to live amongst their own country men. Thank god for perverse homo-sexual loving nations who will accept people who may not be as “perfect” as others who should have no interest in doing so impose on them.

      • MonkeyMouth

        The Island Of Misfit Homosexuals?

  • 5355tet

    That is so hot, omg..i got a boner.Wuuuuuh….spruit

  • BiggJ

    What about these 2 queers?

    http://news.echinacities.com/detail/65867-Elderly-Gay-Couple-Tie-the-Knot-in-Beijing

    Why can they get married and these 2 dykes can’t? Don’t seem fair to me. It must piss all these chinese guy with no girls seeing more girls they can’t get….what a shame.

    • BiggJ

      I say let them do as they please. They ain’t hurting anyone. It’s not like being gay is new or anything. I can’t see them getting too much attention in china. I see girls holding hands and shit all the time. Same for guys. If not guys a worse, Hard to tell who is gay and who’s not. And who cares anyway. Seeing gay people is like tripping on muchrooms…..Just go with it. :)

    • Red Scarf

      Because one is a “wedding ceremony” which under law has no legal acknowledgment and the other is applying for a marriage certificate/registering a marriage which is subject to the laws of China.

      • BiggJ

        Yep you’re right. I’m wrong about that.
        See that chinese people??? It’s ok to admit when you’re wrong.

  • BiggJ

    What do you call pickled bread?????

    Dill dough. :)

  • PixelPulse

    Sad story, I hope they can be able to get married in China in their future.

  • Chang Liu

    Haha “Resolutely oppose lesbian marriages, vigorously promote gay marriages, you understand [know what I’m getting at].” thats one way to remove competition i guess.

  • Gay Azn Boi

    Wow…..is all I can say.

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      I’m insanely bored and tired right now, time to harass GAB. Do you guys have gay marriage in Toronto? If not, do you think gays should have the right to marry? If yes do you ever think you’d get married? Just curious.

      • Gay Azn Boi

        Gay marriage? Homosexuals get stoned to death in Toronto.

        • Germandude

          So weed is legal in Canada? Is that what you’re saying?

          • HEMINATOR

            haha

          • Washington Bullets

            You should really check out British Columbia

        • linette lee

          …. Homosexuals get stoned to death in Toronto……
          hahaha…it’s nobody business what’s your preference for partner. You should be with the person you love. Life is too short to worry about what other people think. People call you homo, so you call them hetero. no problemo..

          • Gay Azn Boi

            Yup :) You know, there was a time when I cared a lot about how people saw me, and it used to bother me to no end. It made me feel that there was something wrong with me and that no one loved me. Then, as I matured, I realized that the problem was myself. It wasn’t that no one loved me; it was because I didn’t love myself. It took me a long time to finally accept who I am and, when I did, I realized what a beautiful thing it is. Now I’m with my wonderful bf whom I love to death.

          • MonkeyMouth

            Mom, Dad, I’d like you to meet my boyfriend, Luca. Luca, I’d like you to meet MoM…YAYAAURARARGHGHGGHGHGAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Wick

            I don’t know what warranted this comment to receive down votes. I think some people here desperately need to do some self-reflecting of their own.

          • Gay Azn Boi

            Haters gonna hate..

          • linette lee

            I don’t see how is it a benefit to get a marriage certificate in China. It’s not like in USA you will be entitled to tax benefits if you are married and have kids. You want to be in married status so you can adopt kids in USA. In China no such thing. So big deal with the marriage certificate in China. Just be gay and stay with your lover and adopt a kid beggar on the street. One happy family. Nobody’s business. You can just tell people that is your sister you are living with.

          • applek11

            I’m a bit curious. When did you discover you liked guys? Or did you always know?

          • Gay Azn Boi

            I discovered that I like guys around the same time you discovered that you like girls.

        • Elijah

          Yeah… That’s bullshit.

          Canada was the third country in the world to adopt gay marriage legislation.

          Any other complaints about the country that you don’t want to associate with but are more than happy to receive benefits from?

          • Gay Azn Boi

            Can’t tell if trolling.

  • adsf323523423423

    “Resolutely oppose lesbian marriages, vigorously promote gay marriages, you understand [know what I’m getting at].”

    I’m guessing they’re talking about forcing women (even if they’re lesbian) to marry men ’cause of babies and the low supply of women in China. But they’re okay with gay men marrying because men are in overabundance in China. Actually now that they mention it i wonder if that’s actually the case – that China is more against lesbian than gay marriages because of the gender imbalance within the population. that’s kinda selfish.

    • 二郎神

      no, it’s probably a 腐女 (fu nv) who is a girl who gets wet over gays :>

    • Jahar

      he’s probably just joking…. you the “if all the guys marry guys, then i get all the girls for myself” joke

  • adsf323523423423

    “Research shows, when children in adolescence, and when adults are
    frustrated in relationships with the opposite sex, they can very easily
    change their sexual orientations when tempted by the same sex, and
    become homosexuals or bisexuals.”
    hahahaha!! omfg!! i wonder what sort of ‘research’ they are doing in China to come to those sorts of conclusions!

    • Archie

      I suppose with up to 40 million men unable to find partners, they might be trying to encourage homosexuality in some ways. Nobody wants 40 million unhappy men wandering around looking for something to do. Last time that happened in China resulted in the Nien rebellion.

      • donkeykong

        Quite possible.

        “Political scientists Valerie Hudson and Andrea den Boer suggest that the rebellion was fueled, at least in part, by decades of female infanticide caused by the floods related economic misery, leading to a large population of frustrated young men without any women to marry, perhaps as many as a quarter of all young men in the area being in this category of “bare branches”

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nien_Rebellion

        • Washington Bullets

          This really seems to be the case. What do you think is going to happen with all of these men who can’t find mates? First, all of the “LAOWAI ARE STEALING OUR WOMEN” threads and now it’s on to “OUR WOMEN ARE STEALING OUR WOMEN!”.

          Christ, it’s like the United States media frenzy with where all the jobs are going.

          • DragonShotz

            “Very curious, how do they keep sexually happy?”
            I’ts all related to this kind of question…lol. A 3 legged dog with basic sex knowledge could steal women from most of these guys.

          • manujoro

            Actually this is meant as a joke, but you need to read the original to understand it (that’s if you read Chinese, of course). It’s wordplay. 幸福 (happiness) and 性福 (sexual happiness) are homophones. I’m not even sure if the second word really exists in the dictionary or it’s made up by the autor.
            Whether or not it’s a good joke, that’s a different question. I personally find it quite funny. And the comment replying to it is even funnier (Sexual happiness is of course brought about one’s own hands!). Once again, it sounds better in Chinese.

        • filabusta

          Very interesting. I thought you made that up.

      • Hongwu Emperor

        Pick the Nien Rebellion, now multiply the formerly 40.000 unhappy folks, by one thousand, and we have the possible scenario to a future clash lol :X
        oh… my…

    • Kai

      Dude, you’ve never seen similar research by religious-right organizations in the West (and especially the US)? Your mind will be blown.

      • A guy

        In the west they blame it on godlessness, in china they blame it on foreign influence.

        Real reason is the same. They are afraid that they secretly are gay, or that there children may be “turned gay”.

        • Kai

          I was responding to @229b9343ad063e93d8905eacbdd1ecda:disqus who wasn’t referring to the commenter who blamed homosexuality on the West.

          • A guy

            you brought up Religious-right organizations, and my comment was in agreement that ignorance is everywhere. Quit being so defensive.

          • Kai

            What? How was I being defensive? I just thought you were talking about the commenter who blamed homosexuality on the West which is being discussed in another thread whereas this thread is about questionable “research”. I thought maybe you got it mixed up and was just clarifying. It’s not like I disagreed with you or anything.

            Maybe it was I who mixed things up by thinking you were talking about the blaming of homosexuality on the West. I can see now how your comment could just be a general statement.

    • PandaPanda

      78 percent of internet posters make up ‘research’ or statistics on the spot.

      • carmouflagger

        Like you just did? :)

    • A guy

      My wife is getting on my nerves I guess I’ll go eat a dick a she suggested.

      I was rolling when I read that shit. Laughing on the outside, but crying for humanity on the inside.

  • Dr Sun

    So much for social harmony.

    Great looking couple and good for them on having the courage to attempt this and bring this issue of discrimination out to public attention (even though it will only last a very short time, before it is overtaken by the huge social issue of public spitting).

    Elsie and Mayu, you rock !!

  • Cleo

    I blame weak minds influenced by Western media for the PDA. I don’t think it’s natural nor feminist to put on a show.

    pretentious

    • Appalled@everything

      and the name Cleo isn’t pretentious at all

  • I don’t know why I expected Chinese people to be fine with homosexuality. I have no idea why the disdainful anti-homosexual comments, or otherwise just uneducated ideas about homosexuality, surprised me.

    • Kate

      Its because your expectations are to high, try lowering them to cynic level and you’ll be less disappointed :)

      • La Mano Gaucha

        Word…

      • Sorry, I dropped the ball this time

    • BiggJ

      It even in western countries, Homosexuality is not excepted….it’s just tolerated more then other places. China just seems to have less of a tolerance for it.

      • No one said that there aren’t ignorant people in other countries. You speak to me as if I have no idea that this exists in a western country, where I’m from.

        • BiggJ

          I don’t mean to sound like that. Not too many straight people anywhere “accept” it. They just tolerate it. That’s what i’m trying to say.

      • MonkeyMouth

        i would almost say the opposite is true….almost…..(you mean ‘accepted’, not ‘excepted’, i’m sure, though..)

        • BiggJ

          yeah “accepted” is what I mean. But why would you say the opposite is true?

          • MonkeyMouth

            i think its more tolerated in china…. no hate crimes that i heard of… no hate speech i’ve heard (much). back in ‘merica, its all fag this, fag that…. gay bars getting molotov’d, schoolyard bullying, etc…
            never been to europe before, but heard its more chill over there

          • the ace of books

            Far as I’ve seen it’s not that it’s more tolerated, it’s that it’s less talked-about, combined with the fact that there is less violent crime here than in the States. Certain Americans, unfortunately, consider being a dick to others a constitutional right (and will quote First Amendment at you when challenged on their dickery). China, OTOH, has people just never ever talking about it, or not believing people when it’s talked about. Being told you doesn’t exist is a different kind of hurtful.

          • Germandude

            Regarding Europe, it depends. In western GER for example, no problem. The gay capital of Europe is Cologne. No problems there. Go to a city in Eastern Germany and it will be very different at least in the smaller towns.
            In the Netherlands, it’s pretty open, but the hate towards gays often comes from Arab immigrants (same as in most of Germany).
            France the same again: places with a high density of Muslim immigrants and gays are facing a tough time.
            Then again, go to Eastern Europe, places like Poland, Bulgaria and Romania, and being openly gay is like a dance on a blade.

      • PandaPanda

        Which “Western countries” are you referring to? Most countries in Europe -especially in the west and north- homosexuality is accepted and not frowned upon. Are you talking about the backwaters that is USA?

  • Ruaraidh

    It always makes me laugh when people believe children can be influenced by homosexuality. You’re born with genes that influence your sexual orientation, people who think it’s something you decide for yourself or are influenced by are probably gays in denial.

    • Kate

      I agree. Hetero and homo sexuality tendencies are not black and white, some people are more prone to one or the other or both and this changes s they age. Sexuality is grey muddy area.

      • MonkeyMouth

        but here, is definitely ‘black’ and ‘white’… blaming the west again!!
        (…….instead of learning good things, they instead go learn that Western homosexuality stuff?)

    • applek11

      I think it’s somewhat influenced by your surroundings. I don’t think most people are purely homosexual or hetero….. so if you thought you were hetero and a homosexual situation presented itself, then yes I think you can ‘turn’ gay

      • lmao no that’s not how it works sweety. i didn’t one day browse 4chan, see a vagina, and think ‘wow that’s hot’.

  • Sanchez

    Nothing brings out people’s true ignorance like discussing homosexuality. That idiot who claims that homosexuality is the Westerners’ fault should be the poster child for ignorant fucks worldwide.

    • donscarletti

      Ignorance is originally a western problem, that guy was probably just saying ignorant shit on the Netease because he saw ignorant shit being posted to western discussion threads and thought it would be fun to copy.

      • donkeykong

        “Ignorance is originally a western problem”

        What ? Ignorance is everywhere, it is not eastern or western.

        • MeCampbell30

          Sarcasm, learn it.

          • donscarletti

            What bothers me is not that the three people who modded me down thought I was being serious.

            What bothers me is that the three people who modded me up might have thought so too!

          • Kai

            LoL, now that’s an insight into cS’s commenter community.

      • mr.wiener

        We invented ignorance too!?! Cooool!!

        • MonkeyMouth

          this comment is going to start a heated debate with the koreans…;)

          • mr.wiener

            Koreans hmm? Challenging, very challenging.

      • filabusta

        Beware: Snark Ahead

  • Righteous American

    Thats some hot asian lesbian action! more plz.

    • Gay Azn Boi

      What is it with you heteros? You’re turned on by lesbian action but disgusted when it’s two guys. Why the double standard?

      • girls like watching two guys and they also dont mind watching two girls. For male its consider disgusting because alpha male dont like to be penetrated, its a sign of submission for them. Here is an article for you

        http://www.japancrush.com/2013/stories/boys-who-love-boys-love-manga-on-the-rise-claims-article.html

        • Rick in China

          Are you high? “girls like watching two guys” – that’s a pretty bold, general, and very untrue statement. Any time I’m watching a movie where two guys get down, or Spartacus or something, any female present responds with disgust. It’s not an anti-gay thing, it’s that they weren’t at all interested or ‘liked’ watching the physical aspect of that kind of relationship.

          I’m sure there are plenty out there who like watching, well, pretty much whatever is out there to watch. Everyone has their thiing, but to say “girls like watching two guys” just tells me you’re an idiot.

          • oh ops should have wrote SOME girls, how did i miss that magical word

          • Rick in China

            That’s better :D

          • applek11

            It’s probably cuz the two guys involved aren’t hot enough. I personally would only watch if both are youthful pretty boys.

            Also many many many girls in China love the boys love phenomenon. How many? Like all the girls in middle school (or something to that effect)

            I’m assuming you guys don’t pay attention to the Asian girl pop culture stuff cuz it’s been wildly popular recently amongst youths. Even boys are starting to get in on the trend. (Although I don’t see many girls like this in the west at all……)

      • Easy. We like vaginas, we don’t like penises (that aren’t our own). In lesbian action, there are at least two vaginas and no penises. It would be like saying “I like vanilla cake, but I hate rat poison. I would like to have two vanilla cakes rather than a vanilla cake and rat poison or two doses of rat poison. Know what I mean?

        • Gay Azn Boi

          Yeah man, but it just seems hypocritical. Like ok, we’re gonna discriminate against the male homosexuals, but not the female homosexuals.

          • Just because a guy doesn’t choose to beat off guys playing swordfight, but will willingly masturbate to lesbians scissoring, it doesn’t mean he’s discriminating against gay men. It just means that he likes girls and not guys.

          • the ace of books

            Thanks for putting this clearly. Hetero preference does not automatically equal discrimination.

          • A guy

            The huge amount of disgust that is shown may be due to the fact that in most culture’s homosexuality is viewed as not manly. So a mans overt disgust at seeing two guys go at it is him being defensive of his own masculinity.

            I can’t speak for everyone, but anytime I see naked people I get a little jazzed especially when they are engaged in sexual behavior, not horny just interested. Some men mistake that feeling for arousal and have to bury it under “eww gross” or some other statement. As to what women feel about gay sex I have no clue, I have had several female friends that like to watch it, but most don’t, and all lesbians I have known don’t like watching it.

            I like watching women go at it cause I like watching women period. It is a simple question with a simple answer. When I was coming of age I looked at a naked women and popped a chub I looked at a naked dude and thought looks nice but never even got to quarter mast.

            I hope this can satisfy your curiosity.

          • Gay Azn Boi

            Most certainly did :)

          • applek11

            Yes, the ‘not manly’ thing about homophobic people bother me so much.

            I think in the western culture not many women like watching gay guys do stuff. But from I saw on the Chinese internets, it’s actually really popular! Not necessary two gay guys but two very attractive guys, Chinese girls would fantasize about that. There’s been some super famous gay couples that’s earning money cuz they are gay and good looking and girls love them!

          • cc

            Go watch some ladyboys, i think there quite sexy

        • TheDon

          lol that killed me…very good analogy. no country for peniises making out.

      • MrT

        Does he really need to answer that twig gatherer.

      • applek11

        That’s ok, (Chinese) girls like guy on guy action ;)

  • linette lee

    Good for them to have the courage to try to get marriage license. I bet China has many male gay couples. You really don’t have women shortage problem if china let the male gay couples come out without discrimination.

    • Nick in Beijing

      It’s true Linette.

      My girl’s ex-room mate is gay (male), several of her childhood friends have grown up to be gay, and because some of the closest people around her are gay she has other gay friends and a few lesbian friends.

      Some of her gay and lesbian friends set up sham marriages because their parents don’t know about their sexual orientation, so after they get their marriage certificates and move into an apartment, they just go back to their normal life styles but go to family dinners on occasion.

      It worked well for them until the parents started demanding grandsons. When the pressure got high all of those “couples” were forced to get a divorce because they simply couldn’t do it.

      I feel really sorry for them. They’re all really nice.

    • pimpinbear

      funny you mention that cause I believe that gays in china are even less discriminated then in western countries/societies, cause of the simple fact that chinese people anyway care less about what others do. Its a pretty much selfish society driven by self interest alone, that leaves less room, time and serious concerns about other peoples or their neighbors crap.

      I had several openly gays within my staff of workers, talked with them on several occasions and never heard that the other staff was discriminating against them, neither in their private lives. Chinese just doesn’t give a shit I guess. In western countries the chances are MUCH higher that you can get pretty much beaten up just cause you displayed your homosexuality publicly…its not cause chinese people are less violent, its just cause most doesn’t give a shit and have better things to do then to worry about such things. In western countries people just got too much time on their hands….

      In my opinion people should not make a too big of an deal about homosexuality, and by that i also mean the pro gay movements. It should of course be tolerated but please don’t promote this shit…same with religion BTW….keep it to yourself. Hold hands and kiss in public if you wish to do so, but is it really necessary to over promote it ? Its just a fucking sexual orientation, no big deal, and by no big deal i mean that it should also be no big of an deal for gays…..

      • donkeykong

        Gays in China are often forced or pressured by their parents into getting married to people of the opposite sex.

        The need to provide a grandson for the parents is so great that many gays are never allowed to be honest about their preferences.

        So, I would say the discrimination against gays can be greater in China due to the fact that many of them are forced to marry and have children.

        • pimpinbear

          thats a bad argument, we talk about discrimination in general by the societies.

          You talk about personal familiar issues….and BTW, what does it mean by “forced” and “pressured” ?? Does it mean that the mother or father put a pistol on the sons/daughters head?

          Sounds to me like an excuse my friend. I was “forced” cause i don’t have the balls to man/women up in front of my parents, so i will just bow down/bend over instead of be the person i really am ?

          There is no force, there is just a weak personality and character and a wrong setting of priorities based on senseless culture values from the stone age….

          Its like with most other things in china, parents pimp on their children for most of their lives. And they do so by making same sort of excuses like “its for their own good”, but in fact its just for their own selfish good first !!! However…

          • applek11

            Well by pressure, it means they either marry and produce a grandson or get alienated from all their family. And sometimes their parents get so pissed off they come down with a stroke or something, and they would feel guilty for not taking good care of their parents. So no, technically not a pistol pointing at their head. But the consequences are still severe.

            It’s also just different from your view from a western culture cuz family is a very very important unit. IT’s just part of the filial duty thing. My family moved to the US and if I were gay I would definitely not compromise with them on it. But I can see how when everyone in the culture is like that, why ppl would want to do the ‘normal’ thing.

            (Also I’m experiencing a bit of it, being single, and thinking that I may just want to be forever single but my parents are very very much trying to convince me to marry)

      • Gay Azn Boi

        Lol. I’m curious. Which “Western” country do you live in? Bcus I live in Canada, been to the States many times, and I almost can’t believe you.

        • Rick in China

          His perspective likely limited to the US Midwest based on what he’s saying..you know, the closet republican gay states :D

          • Gay Azn Boi

            Yeah but he said in “western countries” so I’m like wtf…

          • MonkeyMouth

            can count out the canadians… not much ‘fag-bashing’ goes on there. gotta go down to ol’ dixie (get it?…dick-see?) where all them repressed bible-belt republicans are

          • pimpinbear

            i also think that not all hate crimes against gays are reported in the US or Canada or in europe, simply cause they are not identified as such. This has several reasons, like reduction of sentences and serving of prison time when prosecuted under hate crime law, or to keep a better public profile in general. I would bet that there are a good bunch of murders and other forms of violence happening without us even knowing….and then there are also all the sick violence one gay commits against the other…Jeffrey Dahmer comes to mind and some other sick fucks.

            Now of course its not PC to say that he did it cause he was gay and that of course wouldn’t be the whole truth, but fact is that he WAS gay, even he did it out of his sick perverted mind based on his “twisted” way of executing his own way of homosexuality looking for sexual satisfying. Would he have done the same things without being gay? Most likely yes..!

          • MonkeyMouth

            haha…. exactly…. but i do know of gays being ‘forced’ to marry here in china. and for that ‘gay employees’ talk, i bet if you asked the other employees if they think anyone is gay in the office, i bet most of them wouldnt even know who was gay or not

        • pimpinbear

          in the US it might be different (at least in most parts of the country), even i have heard of violence against gay persons in the US too from time to time.But I should have been more precise and take european countries as an example, even its highly tolerated in mid and north europe, it can be really dangerous for homosexuals to display it in public, mainly in parts of countries/cities with immigrants (mainly muslim background), but even in most countries in southeast europe it can become dangerous for life and health….google it, or go to youtube and type in violence against gays, or gay parade in croatia, serbia, or other countries, and see how hooligans beat up homosexuals which tried to organize a gay parade….i am not kidding…

          • pimpinbear

            BTW, while in the US physical violence against gays might be less then in europe, or less of a chance that it can occur, I would argue that the psychological “violence” is bigger. In many parts of europe you can end up with a bloody nose displaying your homosexuality, but i doubt that any one would go on the street displaying signs with “god hates fags”, “fags are beats” on them, like in the US…

            2nd BTW:

    • applek11

      Yes, recently there’s been a lot of stories about tong qi, or women who were married to gay men and didn’t know about it (until now). Apparently it happens pretty frequently, cuz Chinese families force their children to marry. (and I know this very very well)

      I’ve also chatted to some random gays in China and read some stories of others, and a surprising lot of them actually want to a ‘normal’ marriage+ lifestyle too

      But I agree, in those cases, they’re better off just not marrying instead of ruining some poor girl’s life (and giving that opportunity to others….)

  • linette lee

    A nation so over populated they can use more homo.

    • quake

      or just turn surplus hetero males in soldiers and human missiles against japan and ANZUS

      • mr.wiener

        Do you have anything of your own to say?

    • donscarletti

      Reminds me of a particular episode of South Park where they were trying to prevent the future from occuring by making every man become homosexual.

      “Back to the pile!”

    • MrT

      Just send them up in balloons if your concerned about population control.
      Works for Kong Bongers

  • Is it so bad that I would feel more sympathy if they were hot? I mean, really, I have to reach much further down into my heart to generate affection for average looking lesbians denied marital rights.

  • “Ain’t nobody’s business but their own.” is a line from a [admittedly] Western blues song, but it reflects an ‘Eastern’ philosophy. as if geography matters. Intolerance of difference is a widespread trait in the West also yet one rarely hears bigots argue that particular point.

    • MonkeyMouth

      ‘t’aint no one’s business what i do’ by Frank Stokes

  • KAMIKAZIPILOT

    What’s with the attempt to disguise their faces with those little distorted eyeglasses. I bet someone can still recognize them if they knew them. Is there really a reason to hide their identities? BTW despite the half-ass attempt to disguise them, I think they’re both cute.

    • donkeykong

      I agree, they are both cute.

  • Archie

    This comment made me laugh, “Children are not mentally matured”. Based on many of the comments, and on videos that are all to common like the guy yesterday who was trashing computers at the airport because he missed his flight (and the cowardly response by the security there), and then all the grown men standing on streets popping off fireworks, and the large swathes of grown women dressing in childrens style clothes, and the infantile mindset of university aged students, I’d say large proportions of the population are not mentally matured.

    ps. Does anyone think that the pixelation of eyes is really hiding anyone’s personality?

    • Paul Schoe

      Given the high position in the CCCP of the guy who missed his flight, and the uproar on the Chinese Internet when the video of his behavior was displayed, I am surprised that ChinaSMACK did not translate and publish that information. It is a pity that we now have to search for other news sources than ChinaSMACK to get info about what happens in the China blog-sphere.

      • Kai

        Fauna just posted it and its definitely a number of days late (at least 4 by my count).

        But be fair, cS is often late or completely misses stuff. There are tons of stories on the Chinese internet each day. I don’t think any one source could possibly cover all that is legitimately noteworthy. It also isn’t a good idea to use cS as your only source for what happens on the Chinese internet. cS publishes like one post a day, man.

      • Paul Schoe

        @Fauna, my apologies to you, it seems that I was too fast. I guess all the sexual oriented topics of the last month, left me wonder if ChinaSMACK still was interested in any other items that happen in China.
        Thanks for posting the info.

  • Germandude

    Where is the report from a desperate Chinese guy with the topic “Chinese girls, don’t sleep with yourselves, Chinese men need you” or such like?

    • x1sfg

      They are too busy furiously masturbating to lesbian porn while grumbling about those foreigners. Forever alone.

    • the ace of books

      Just wait for it…

  • The Acidic Hasidic

    During the mid-late 1850’s most southerners were convinced slavery was near an end. Yet there were people who still fought so adamentley to keep their slaves and even a whole war about it. Today we judge these people as wrong

    If you ask most people (even in china) they are convinced in the not to distant future homosexuals will be able to marry. Yet there are so many people who fight so hard to keep gay marriage illegal. Doesnt it bother them that history will eventually judge them as being wrong?

  • Gay Azn Boi

    They hatin’ cus we like to eat da poo poo.

    • quake

      Jewish controlled america hollywood did far worse look puting chinese women only in lesbian roles. i admit its hot however

      • Alphy

        Huh? Have you not watch Charles Angel or Stargate? What about a huge list of movies and TVs that have Chinese American Actress? I don’t remember them all being in lesbian roles. You either have color glasses or only watch a certain type of shows.

      • Jahar

        All the asian girls i see in lesbian porn are lesbians.

    • Day eat da POO POO!

      • Gay Azn Boi

        You know, the funniest part for me is seeing the ones in the audience taking notes on what the guy had to say.

  • HEMINATOR

    Bombastic

  • Bugs Bunny

    i do not mind marrying a girl either…

    once i liked a girl in high school, she looks like faye wang a lot,but a bit better.big eyes,good face shape,short hair as a boy and tall…everytime i saw her my heart beated very fast,guess she noticed me too,we often stared at each other…
    she looks like a pretty boy from cartoon…yummy!

    • Gay Azn Boi

      I’m sure your husband would like to know about this.

      • the ace of books

        Does it matter?

    • Alphy

      Oh wow… lol… Not sure if this is the forum to unleash your inner most secret, but hey I don’t mind, go right on ahead.

    • linette lee

      I had a girl crush on a russian girl too. She is really tall like 5ft 10in with broad shoulders and a Keira Knightley body type. She has this gorgeous face structures with perfect skin with short dark blonde hair. She is not macho or anything just very pretty like a boy doll. I bet if she wears lots of make up she can be a supermodel. She is beautiful. She can easily get many boyfriends or girlfriends. She sort of look like brigette nielsen but more pretty. And she has a russian accent which I really love. I always look at her when I see her and she will stick her head into my room to say hi to me with a smile when she passes by my area. My heart beats with excitement just getting this “hi’ from her. But I don’t want to be her friend or get to know her. It’s too strange. So weird. I don’t really know her. We never exchange names. lol.

      http://www.patric-wolf.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/brigitte-nielsen-every-body-tells-261219.jpg

      • MrT

        Do you have the urge to feed her when you see her?

  • Alex

    Coincidence? I think NOT

  • MrT

    Both are worthy of a bullet.

    • mr.wiener

      You aren’t.

      • MrT

        I’m sure I deserve a clip or two emptied in my general direction

        • mr.wiener

          I’d give you a paper cut, but nothing else.

    • the ace of books

      Naw, man, leave that kind of comment to SuperHappCow.

      Or, if you must imitate him, at least use the proper format: “Everyone involved should be shot, including the Marriage Certificate.”

  • Appalled@everything

    Not one single Chinese comment could be found that advocated gay rights in China? Not one? I find it very hard to believe.
    It is fine to grab a handful of laughably ignorant and uneducated comments and throw those on chinaSMACK to excite and enrage us, but to not also put the counter-argument is really irresponsible.

    Many Chinese are openly gay, and many other straight Chinese also are perfectly fine with it. This story and these comments paint a bleak picture that isn’t entirely accurate.

    • quake

      majority of chinese are PEASANTS and not cosmopolitan city dwellers, who are more likely to support gay rights

      • Alphy

        Hmm but netizens are mostly city dwellers…

        • quake

          internet access is by province and is wide spread in China. you can even get it in Sinkiang, assuming no censorship. the peasants will go to the cafe or library and blurt out pseudo confucian-buddhist conservatism

          • Alphy

            I don’t dispute that internet access is very widespread now in China. However the penetration of users is still far more prevalent in cities. Also China already tipped the point where city dwellers outnumber rural population. I am just saying more than likely the comments are not only from one geographical demographic, and as Appalled pointed out, it is hard to believe no one actually commented for Gay rights.

        • Jahar

          Lots of peasants live in cities. Come to Wuhan. I’ll show you.

          • Alphy

            Jahar, I was in reply to Quake, and by Peasants, he means people who lives in rural areas as he said it in contrast to city dwellers.

          • Jahar

            And I was replying to you. And how do you know what he means? there is a reason half the poulation of China lives in cities now. They weren’t born there. They moved there. From rural areas. And he said it in contrast to cosmopolitan city dwellers. Which are much less common.

          • Hongwu Emperor

            What about conservative city dwellers?? lol.
            Just being BORN in a city doesn’t mean you’re liberal, wants to do anything, allows everything to happen, etc etc.

          • Alphy

            Ya and your point? Once they moved to the city, they are consider city dwellers. Don’t get crazy on me now, the point of the argument I made was simple; I disagreed on the point “majority of chinese are PEASANTS and not cosmopolitan city dwellers”, which in itself is not true. Let’s phrase it this way, do you agree that the comments mostly came from people that live in cities?

            If you want to say that majority of Chinese are uneducated and ignorant even if they live in city just say it out loud, don’t go in round about ways. Just saying cosmopolitan doesn’t mean crap neither, as it just mean you live in big city with that city’s culture, which majority of Chinese do live in now regardless of where they were originally born. You wouldn’t go calling a 10 year resident of New York a peasant even if he grew up in a rural area now would you?

          • Jahar

            My point was i was explaining what i meant the first time, since you didn’t really get it. I don’t know what your definition of crazy is, I was just talking. And you missed my point again. Living in a city does not stop these people from being/acting like peasants. When we say peasant we do not mean “rural area dweller.” As for in NYC, I don’t consider rural residents in the US to be peasants, so no, I wouldn’t think of one in NYC to be a peasant. Cosmopolitan can be used to describe people as well as the city, and i am assuming that the writer was referring to the people, not the city, when he said that. a peasant in a cosmopolitan city is still a peasant. being in the city does not make one cosmopolitan. Also, the vast majority of people in China do not live in cosmopolitan cities anyway. They live in village-like cities(like wuhan)

          • Alphy

            Pointless argument. Your definition of peasant is messed up. What exactly is your definition? It is suppose to be use for describing farmer or people who own farms. People who live in city don’t farm. I stated netizens are mostly city dwellers, you know that is true. You also know it is true that over 50% of Chinese live in cities and don’t farm. Thus majority of people in China are one, city dwellers, and two NOT peasants (people who farm), making his statement completely incorrect. Already then, let’s drop this pointless topic and move on please.

      • Hongwu Emperor

        So what? peasantry is awesome, specially considering China is one of the few countries with a really HUGE amount of it.

        The ‘nong’ is ALWAYS cooler than the ‘sheng’ mwahahahahahaaa!!

        About gay rights; I dont know… many city dwellers around the world are against it, for different reasons [religion,family background,etc] so lets not simply ‘blame it on the countryside’ again.

        • quake

          peasants are also very conservative compare to liberal people in the cities who see shopping malls billboards and i-phone stores etc.
          who do you think america’s blue sates are all cities NY and Losangeles while red states are all idaho-alaska-texas-alabama

          • Hongwu Emperor

            I know that, more over-exposure to insane amount of people,technology,etc makes the people change their ideas, act differently,etc but depending on the nation, almost all people even city-dwellers are conservative, such as Mexico or Iran [more due to authoritarian religious govt]

    • BiggJ

      Yeah very true. Oh well it gets foreigners hatin chinese even more. lol How fun would it be if they portrayed chinese as normal people, lol or put some down to earth comments?

    • Kai

      Click over to the original Chinese source. There are over 4000 comments and the translated comments were all from the “hot comments” (comments that received the most upvotes) section. See this part of the cS FAQ.

      cS doesn’t actively try to “balance”, provide counter-arguments, or otherwise editorialize our content to represent every perspective of viewpoint in China. We more or less expect readers to know that there’s always a diversity of opinions in any group of people while recognizing the significance of sentiments that seem to gain support from certain people in certain situations.

      cS actually translates a bunch of intelligent and educated comments fairly regularly. It’s just that some of our readers don’t really remember them and take them for granted.

      This story, like all stories on cS, doesn’t seek to paint any particular picture of China. It only seeks to paint A picture (one that people who can’t read Chinese wouldn’t be able to read otherwise without translation). It’s up to readers to reconcile this information with everything else they know about China. There’s just no way one can paint a comprehensively accurate picture of China for every single person. If our translators and bloggers went out of their way to present opinions they think foreigners will forget when they’re bashing China, then cS would be accused of cherry-picking to make China look better than it is. We’re damned if we do or don’t, so we’re just going to try sticking to a specific methodology, the limitations of which we openly acknowledge in our About and FAQ pages.

      And yes, for the record, many Chinese are indeed openly gay and many straight Chinese are perfectly fine with homosexuals. Nonetheless, the attitudes seen in these highly upvoted comments do reveal much about Chinese social norms and attitudes, just as ignorant and uneducated comments anywhere do.

      • Nick in Beijing

        Kai. While i understand what you are saying regarding methodology, it would be really nice to see some comment threads that have people actually debating. even if they arent the moat upvoted comments it would provide a lot more material for thoughtful discussion.

        • Kai

          I agree that would be nice, and could provide more material for thoughtful discussion, but I think I’ve already more or less explained how we can’t make that our modus operandi. It isn’t practical and it introduces another sort of potential bias that we consider a stickier problem.

          • Nick in Beijing

            Disappointed.

          • Kai

            Meh, don’t be. cS is provided for free, right? We also welcome contributors, and we offer translation services for a fee as well.

      • Alphy

        Point taken. I went and read some of the original Chinese post, and sadly, they are overwhelmingly against gay rights. There are many debates, but pro-gay rights are clearly outnumbered.

        Oh and by the way guys, the first comment about supporting gay, but oppose lesbian is like the most popular one, it got over 20,000 up votes.

  • Mop

    Oh man, those comments are just disappointing.

  • TheDon

    seeing two girls making out…sexy(it turns me fucking on)
    two guys kissing…gross(the most disgusting thing i’ve seen)
    go ahead and crucify me but my opinion stands…for the sake of other men i ask all gay men to stop kissing in clubs and other public places

    • the ace of books

      Eyelids. They can be activated at will.

    • mr.wiener

      Call me a conservative old bastard if you will , but I don’t really like seeing any over the top public displays of affection, be it from gays, straights , men or women. There is something too “look at us playing tonsil hockey woohoo!”about it.
      Seriously get a hotel room guys.

      • Jahar

        I like seeing it. it makes me feel funny.. down there.

      • KAMIKAZIPILOT

        When I was younger I didn’t mind but now I completely agree with your mindset. I hate the whole “look at us” factor. In fact, I hate attention whores everywhere, no matter the situation or methods they use. To me it’s a sign of insecurity somewhere in their psyche that causes them to seek attention.

    • pimpinbear

      i think there is absolutely nothing wrong with this opinion. I have absolutely nothing against gays, but it makes my stomach sick when i see to males kissing each other. Then i thought about it and realize that most likely gays could have similar problems seeing girls kissing each others or male/female couples ?

      It reminds me what my father told me, something like: you can also have a gay as your friend, but in the moment he goes down on his knees to suck your dick, is the moment you should reconsider your friendship ! :-)

      • Jahar

        because gay friends try to do that all the time, right?

      • applek11

        Well…. I feel weird about seeing girls kissing each other (I’m a girl)

        I also feel weird if two very manly guys kissed (like in brokeback mountain). I’m ok with it if either or both are androgynous though (regardless if they’re ff or mm)

    • Jahar

      I’m so proud of you, son.

  • the ace of books

    Oh, this again.

  • El Puma R.

    I’ll just dare to say what they did was pretty dumb, probably just trying to get attention.

    now they should save some money and go to Holland or some other country that allows gay marriage.

    And I saw some comments saying they’re afraid of the influence of gay people, they are worried, blablabla… in my own point of view I’ve seen that homosexuality in China is, at a great percentage, a product of their social inabilities and not of their sexual preference.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if one day all chinese kids start shouting out loud how lost they are within themselves. No parent guidance, a lot of pressure, no psychologists available and very few stereotypes to fit in.

  • vincent

    Next thing you know there’s going to be some Chinese medicine that cures homosexuality, which will in all probability animal genitals.

    • filabusta

      Endangered bat wing soup.

      • Nick in Beijing

        Endangered bat penis soup. corrected that for you.

        • applek11

          more penis? Wouldn’t that make them even more gay?

    • Jahar

      I heard there is a puddle of contaminated water in Henan, and if you fall in it, you are cured of gayness.

  • Paneraman

    who cares.. Why stick their noses into other peoples’ personal life?

  • A Lu

    They have balls!

  • filabusta

    It’s ok to be gay, as long as you keep the door shut.

    • “Teh gays” is draft dodgers too?

  • ryhor

    I did not expect any other reaction than these above in a country where this topic is not publicly discussed by media or politics. The same “public opinion” prevailed in my country 20 years ago short after collapse of communism regime. Now ca. half of the nation accepts gays and the other not.

  • “Nine-Yin soybean milk machine, good soybean milk is all it ever makes.”

    Don’t see how everyone is so down upon the Chinese comments when they made a perfectly concise Tofu-lady joke.

  • Banlas

    For once (only this case) what Mao did is right, is to eradicate homosexual, gay and lesbian out of the Chinese society. Throw them out, maybe to Japan.

  • Reginald

    NEWS – I tracked them down and neither are lesbians any more,

    • donkeykong

      How did you cure them of the gay ?
      Hot water ??? Tiger penis ????

  • Alex

    They are right when they fear homosexuality.

    Accepting homosexuality in a traditional society is a long process.

    When homosexuality is trully accepted in the future, showing it outdoors won’t be such a big problem.

    What these people don’t understand is by making it bad, they are also making it cool to the eyes of the young people.

    But I honestly think that questioning yourself sexuality is necessary in everyone’s life.

    -And for the regular people commenting in Chinasmack:

    There is only one race, and that’s the human race. Stop complaining about some Chinese people making racist comments and then blaming all Chinese for that. Sometimes, if you get really angry reading the comments, it’s better to just turn off your computer.

  • PandaPanda

    Chinese people are bigoted idiots. Just look at those comments. I went to one of the Chinese sites, and only 1 in 10 comments supported these two. Backwards morons.

  • mattman_183

    Of course this is disgusting! What do homosexuals know about love?! They don’t even wear matching clothes!

  • Robko Byalov

    Reading the comments of netizens = THE DARK AGES.
    The internet is truly the place where idiots are allowed to be ignorant and opinionated with no repercussions.

  • valentino

    I am a westerner and let’s be honest with ourselves

    And accept the reality that our society as westerner’s is very
    much dysfunctional society,

    Homosexuality, bisexuality, trisexuality, Bestiality or animal
    lover and the worst kind of things are common in west

    And everyone knows that Chinese society was and kind of is
    a traditional society, also Chinese people are very open to positive and creative
    changes But since Chinas Open Door Policy China had some positive financial progress and unfortunately
    we also give China some bad western cultural Influences which are not in accordance with Chinese traditions
    and those are some of the side effects
    of western cultural influenza on Chinese people

  • bert

    The problem is that too many of these kids are just making it a fad. “Oh, I’m not the classical pretty girl so I’ll dress like a male and get a gf.” Most likely they will break up in a few years, if not sooner, and find bf’s or at least one of them will. What do I care if they get some kind of permit to have a gov’t approved bond. Do you people think that a piece of paper makes a commitment real? Retard generation nothings. Learn to think, stop being female feelers and be men thinkers, most of you are guys anyway, most women don’t waste their time on these types of sites posting crap like WE do. Yes, I include myself. Gay marriage in the US is not about love it started as a taxation issue. But due to political correctness nobody will bother to protest why married or single people have higher or lower taxes than the other? That is not fair, that is not justice. But why don’t you faggots say something about this? Oh yeah, you were molded to conform to an liberal BS ideology, but you think it is more important to be hip rather than logical. But who am I to say anything about it? I am not Richard Burger! The whole fact that people desire gov’t approval for their union is pathetic.

  • Dave

    “Two perfectly good children, and instead of learning good things, they instead go learn that Western homosexuality stuff?”

    Oh, you have to be fucking kidding me. It was Christian morality that made homosexuality taboo in China. Wo cao, these people make my head hurt.

    “Opposition to homosexuality and the rise of homophobia, according to the study by Hinsch, did not become firmly established in China until the 19th and 20th centuries, through the Westernization efforts of the late Qing Dynasty and early Republic of China”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_China

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Love_play_in_China.jpg

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