Corrupt Chinese Official Arrested in Vietnam with Mistress

Former Baoding City Mancheng County Land and Resources Bureau Director Song Jianzhong arrested by Vietnamese police and being handed over to Chinese authorities, after fleeing to Vietnam with his mistress while under investigation for corruption and bribery.

From NetEase:

Hebei Corrupt Official Who Fled to Vietnam with Mistress Captured

In January 2013, Hebei Xinhe County Police notified Guangxi Dongxing Municipal Police that between 2008 to 2011, the former Director of Baoding City Mancheng County Bureau of Land and Resource in Hebei Song Jianzhong used his power to illegally profit and collect 1.5 million RMB in bribes, and when faced investigated by the relevant departments fled to Vietnam with his mistress. Photo is of about 6pm February 5th, Mong Cai Municipal Police in Vietnam handing the suspects over to Guangxi Dongxing Municipal law enforcement officials. Picture by Zhuo Huang/CFP.

Former Baoding City Mancheng County Land and Resources Bureau Director Song Jianzhong arrested by Vietnamese police and being handed over to Chinese authorities, after fleeing to Vietnam with his mistress while under investigation for corruption and bribery.

After receiving the stated information, Guangxi Dongxing Municipal Police started the cooperative law enforcing mechanism, sending a notice to Mong Cai Police in Vietnam on investigation cooperation and dispatching police force to Mong Cai to coordinate the arrest. 

Former Baoding City Mancheng County Land and Resources Bureau Director Song Jianzhong arrested by Vietnamese police and being handed over to Chinese authorities, after fleeing to Vietnam with his mistress while under investigation for corruption and bribery.

After over 20 days of investigation, in the afternoon of February 5th, Song and his mistress, Ren, appeared in Mong Cai, Vietnam. Mong Cai Police successfully arrested the two.

Former Baoding City Mancheng County Land and Resources Bureau Director Song Jianzhong arrested by Vietnamese police and being handed over to Chinese authorities, after fleeing to Vietnam with his mistress while under investigation for corruption and bribery.

February 6th, Dongxing Police transferred the two persons to Hebei Police for further investigation.

Corrupt Chinese government official Song Jianzhong's mistress arrested by Vietnamese police and being handed over to Chinese authorities.

Corrupt Chinese government official Song Jianzhong's mistress arrested by Vietnamese police and being handed over to Chinese authorities.

Corrupt Chinese government official Song Jianzhong's mistress arrested by Vietnamese police and being handed over to Chinese authorities.

Comments on NetEase:

芙小小2世 [网易四川省成都市网友]

Only 1.5 million. That’s nothing. If it were 1.5 billion, they would have treated you like a god; you could have been free and happy, getting promoted to even higher positions! 1.5 million in the Bureau of Land and Resource, this is something only clean officials could do. Looks like you were excluded.

网易山东省济南市网友:

Wow~~~ Just 1.5 million, just one mistress, that’s a clean official!

网易广东省深圳市网友:

I’m a young public servant who just started working at the Discipline Inspection Commission [China's anti-corruption organs] who due to inexperience made a serious mistake, causing the day-to-day operations of the municipal government to nearly come to a standstill, and now comes before you to make a self-criticism, in hopes that everyone can learn a profound lesson from my experience!

This is what happened: The day before yesterday, our Discipline Inspection Commission Secretary received a notification saying that a CCTV reporter wants to come report on our city’s progressive example in clean governance, and through research by the city government, has selected the bureau chiefs/directors of several of the more clean and honest government departments to participate in a symposium. The Inspection Discipline Commission Secretary wanted me to notify [those selected].

Because it was almost time to get off work at the time, I explained things too carelessly when contacting their offices, only saying a single sentence on the phone: “Ask your bureau director to come to the Discipline Inspection Commission tomorrow.”

I did expect that upon receiving the notice, the Land and Resources Director would piss and shit himself on the spot, suddenly have a heart attack, fall unconscious, and need to be sent to the hospital for emergency care, his condition remaining life-threatening to this day.

What I never imagined in a thousand years that the Finance Bureau Director would that night run to the city’s Anti-Corruption Bureau and turn himself in.

The city’s Education Bureau Director was even more unfathomable. Without even eating dinner, her took several of the key personnel and “March 8th” red-banner holder female teachers of the city’s magnet schools and together vanished. Reportedly they were seen in Canada two days later.

The Industry and Commerce Bureau Director murdered his mistress that night, having determined that it must’ve been that bitch who sold him out.

The Health Department Director committed suicide by taking poison, and even left behind a list of names accusing them of corruption.

What was even more unimaginable was that the city’s Public Security Bureau Chief ate a bullet in his office, killing himself! Before doing so, he left a final note with a single sentence: My death will protect a lot of people, so I hope they will take care of my family.

During this time, the operations of the city’s various departments and bureaus descended into paralysis and chaos. All of this pain was caused by my careless approach to my work. Reflecting upon this pain, I feel extremely guilty, and perform this self-criticism, hoping that my superiors can give me one more chance, be lenient, and see how I will behave in the future…

黑框卫答应 [网易广东省广州市网友]:

Such an ugly woman, and she can still be a mistress? There must be a problem with the aesthetic tastes of government officials!!!

正义的炽天使 [网易澳门网友]:

Death penalty!

网易山东省临沂市网友:

Former Sinopec chief Chen Tonghai got a death sentence with two year reprieve after embezzling and receiving bribes worth nearly 200 million. This bureau chief only took 1.5 million. Compare it.

临时工大队长 [网易福建省厦门市网友]:

Our village head’s BMW 750Li is worth more than that. That woman too, just what kind of taste does that woman have to have found such a poor dude.

小楼西风 [网易黑龙江省齐齐哈尔市网友]:

It took an international police force to finally catch a small fish. What about those big fish and great white sharks? How many of those have been caught?

十月香 [网易北京市网友]:

Kill on site! With so many Chinese people already, what’s the point keeping these bad guys?

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  • elizabeth

    What about those who bribe officials? Are they also arrested along with each of these cases?

    • MonkeyMouth

      if that were the case, there’d be hundreds of millions of folks in jail. including my wife, who recently had to bribe the fire inspector just to fucking SHOW UP to carry out an inspection of her new business’ premises.

      • elizabeth

        Hmmm…she’s setting a precedence that would enslave her to corrupt officials. If she could prove that she was forced to pay…I’d rather take my business elsewhere.

        • elizabeth

          Sorry,…precedent…

          • MonkeyMouth

            then you obviously dont now how things ‘work’ in china. cant take business anywhere without greasing someone. it wasnt a big payment, and i was mad about it, but if we didnt do it, then ba-zam! no fire certificate, and therefore no business.

          • Dr Sun

            TIC- This is China !. Corruption is so ingrained in the Government culture, anyone doing business or working in China sees it going on around them everyday at every level.
            The sad truth is that to get rid of it would require firing every government official, ie 80 million CPC members and replacing them. Somehow I can’t see the CPC doing that, can you ?

          • elizabeth

            Who knows there will come a day when they would have to, when China loses her shine and needs to do something about it because investments will not keep coming in if investors find themselves on the losing end having to pay the hefty costs of setting up business.

            If China is content being an economy driven largely due to the scale of it’s market, and there are investors willing to play that game, then I doubt it will become first world hub. I would liken that economy to a market of cheap imitation goods cf. genuine markets.

          • MonkeyMouth

            shine?? what shine? you mean the shiny, oily film on the leaves after it rains? Lets hope that investors will be as idealistic as you, but unfortunately, they wont. they just want the bucks. its a mad mad mad mad world

          • elizabeth

            I like that metaphor – ‘oily film’ on the leaves ‘after it rains’. Idealism is unrealistic, I know, but that’s one of the few things that I need in order to find direction in this mad mad world.

          • MonkeyMouth

            idealism is too far under-rated these days. keep it up1

          • MonkeyMouth

            its a mad mad mad mad mad world,huh?

          • elizabeth

            That’s why I think it’ll not work to keep arresting corrupt officials as long as there are people giving bribes.

            I’ll take my business outside of China. There are other ways to tap the market. If I give in and go with the flow, then I will have to accept it because I can’t expect miracles if I am part of the problem.

          • MonkeyMouth

            see your point. feel bad for all of these poor folks that end up in the govt’s pocket. really…. makes me sick to my stomach. but if its soooo ingrained, its more about choosing a battle (as an outsider). tell ya what, i’ll refuse to bribe next time, and letcha know? so far no one else has come-a-knockin with their nubby hand out… but when they do… i’ll have a slap in the face and an excuse letter from ‘elizabeth’ ready. ;)

          • elizabeth

            I understand that there are those who are forced and those who do it for competitive advantage. Ideally, we should look at the issue case by case. Yes, it’s about choosing battles.

            Best wishes to your wife and her business and may the knocks on the door be from family, friends…and customers.

          • MonkeyMouth

            thanks, Liz. thats a sweet thing to say. much apprecitated

          • Dr Sun

            I think you miss the point Elizabeth, it’s not that most people want to bribe the official, you have too, they (the officials) expect it, they wont act without it.

          • elizabeth

            As I have mentioned to MonkyMouth, I understand the some are being forced and at the end of the day, it is really about what we want and our own circumstances.

            My original point is that arresting corrupt officials alone will not work. It’s becoming more of a show to placate the angry masses rather than a serious resolve to flush out the grime which now seems impossible. Apparently, scapegoats are also sacrificed in the process and this is too savory for my stomach.

            I am glad to be a foreigner although we are discriminated against in many areas including business. I’d keep my toes off the quick sand and say a prayer for China under the coconut tree

    • quake

      lobbyists always get away in any country

      • elizabeth

        One step at a time. What is needed is a strong message to all parties that it is unacceptable. It may be painful initially, but what is good that does not come at a price?

        • quake

          the only lobbyist i ever heard of going to jail was Jack abramhoff. do you think Apple or bill-gates would be sent to jail for lobbying in USA or china? much less Huawei

          • elizabeth

            Lobbying is legal and regulated with a high level of transparency in USA. It is not the same as bribery in China.

            Jack Abramhoff was convicted of fraud, tax evasion and conspiracy and not lobbying. I am not aware of any illegal activities Apple, Microsoft or Huawei engaged in, so I cannot comment.

        • Alice S

          There are far worse things than corruption.

    • donkeykong

      What about those that bribe teachers in China ?
      The schools are full of teachers that demand bribes for good grades, reference letters, etc.

      • ScottLoar

        Shanghai tv runs a short showing a doctor, a teacher, a policeman being offered bribes and indignantly refusing. Now there’s another short of the businessman who tries to convince a friend who refuses, makes a briefcase full of money, but finally is shown in jail as that friend comes to visit.

        • donkeykong

          You believe everything that you see on TV ???

          • ScottLoar

            No, of course I don’t believe everything I see on tv, but when I see an anti-corruption commercial on Chinese television I do 1) recognize it for what it is (I also read and understand Mandarin) and 2) the commercial tells me authorities recognize the problem of corruption and are trying to educate the citizenry against it. Now, what am I missing? What have I failed to understand? Please tell me.

          • MonkeyMouth

            you are missing everything. those ads are just there for show. for a lark, call the number they provide, and see what they say. Lemme guess, you are a 23 year old Meten English teacher from Overland Park, Kansas, arent you?

          • ScottLoar

            No, you guessed wrong about my age, background, origin, unlike my comments about you who cannot construct a complete, coherent sentence in your mother tongue, English.

            And the commercials (I called them “shorts”) do not give a phone number. Say, do you really understand anything I’ve written? I’ve given two examples of the government’s exhortation against corruption directed towards the citizenry and you – and donkeykong – question my credibility? This is not about belief, opinion, or (I had thought) not about intelligence: Why not look to your television if you’re in China and look at these anti-corruption commercials? They do exist, they are exactly as I said.

            These shorts are in the Chinese tradition of public exhortations to morality. Can’t you even understand that?

          • MonkeyMouth

            you’re such a mook. i changed my mind. you’re from connecticut, not kansas. i call you a shithead only because its fun. i enjoy beating up trolls like you. first comment you made yto me, you reached soooo far as to summarize my WHOLE LIFE. and then you have the nerve to call me and donkey stupid. well, this donkey and this monkey are gonna whoop you right outta cS. and its also worth mentioning that its a rookietroll’s mistake by pointing out other commenter’s ‘grammar’. uhh… i type fast and dont proofread all that thoroughly, so you can stick that up yer keester, too.
            credibility? i dont give a fuck enough. i know you aint credible. you are a spoonfed richkid who believes in the republican party. you believe america is a free country, and that voting makes a difference. good luck, asshole

          • ScottLoar

            That’s much better. Laugh as you will but please, for the sake of everyone’s patience, don’t give your opinion on comments posted here.

          • MonkeyMouth

            are you the moderator for this site? you ‘speak’ for everyone?

      • elizabeth

        Are there? Is it done secretly or openly? What the schools should do is to limit the value of gifts to, say, less than 100 yuan. Any teacher worth his/her salt should be satisfied with the token of appreciation for the hard work. Any teacher not worth the salt will probably not take the risks for that amount. I wouldn’t advocate total ban of gifts because it is the custom of some cultures to show appreciation through gifts. And it is rude to reject them. Limiting the amount would then allow teachers to refuse the gifts with a valid excuse without appearing rude or disrespectful.

      • MonkeyMouth

        its rife in schools, too. I knew a student who lost her scholarship cuz she didnt bang her teacher. true story. and this is a grad student from a top 10 university

        • Wick

          Anytime someone wraps up a story by saying that it’s a “true story” is usually bullshitting. It’s similar to other statements like, “I’m an honest person”, “I’ve got a big dick”, and “I love titties!” The things that are, don’t need to be said.

    • Dr Sun

      unfortunately the “bribe” is a given, if you don’t bribe officials they wont do their jobs. It’s so a part of doing business that if you don’t offer or accept bribes, you wont be trusted and you wont get the contract, the job, the business licence, etc……

      • linette lee

        Dr, Sun. Look who’s back. You haven’t come visit CS for a long time.

        • Dr Sun

          Sweet of you to notice Linette

          • linette lee

            Yes, I wonder why you don’t post. :)

          • Dr Sun

            Oh, just was busy, you know how expensive wives, mistresses and girlfriends are.

          • linette lee

            You are a busy man. ;)

      • elizabeth

        Yes, it’s very much a chicken or egg situation. But if the government is serious about stamping out corruption, the issue should be addressed in all fronts. Otherwise, I doubt it will work. As long as there is supply, there will be demand, where money is concerned.

        • Dr Sun

          Many Emperors tried to stamp out the corruption of officials, all failed, even after Executing or exiling thousands upon thousands of them and their families.

          • ScottLoar

            Because there is no system of check and balances, no outside interests to report or investigate, just reliance on Confucian probity and a sense of shame. Years ago I realized that doesn’t go far as I read the word “Justice” carved on the plaque behind the lawyer in Taiwan who was shamelessly trying to bilk me of some petty cash.

          • Dr Sun

            that’s the problem with a one party state, right ?
            All the government and officials, media, police etc all belong to same club.

          • ScottLoar

            In large part, yes. Even a state ruled by one party can be tolerated if there is 1) universally recognized rule of law and 2) an alternative party and interests that look for the faults of the ruling party and can bring it to accounts for those faults.

            When the ruling party defines the law and has sole exercise of the rights of citizens then you have… well, you know what you have.

          • elizabeth

            That goes to show there is a loophole/problem somewhere else other than corrupt officials but apparently the government isn’t looking intently into it. Makes on wonder if all these arrests are only cosmetic ‘lip service’.

      • elizabeth

        And if they drag their feet, find a way to make it known to netizens…and let them do the rest :D

  • jjongdouche

    Like the west doesn’t have it’s own yucky officials. You only have to take a look at the list of Tory & Labour MPs with criminal convictions – mostly odd illegal sex rituals involving prostitutes and underage public schoolboy bummings – and they make this guy look like a featherweight. It’s true what they say about those Eton alumni. The UK isn’t a large nation either. Nowhere close to 1.4 billion or whatever it is but it has more than it’s fair share of perverts. Everyone knows it, too. The British cabinet and their deviant country matters have always been a joke. It’s not very funny when it involves such victims i.e. children being molested by these greedy fat repulsive beings. I don’t think I could begin to compute the situation in the US.

    • mr.wiener

      “Captain we have incoming criticism coming from a western allience ship de-cloaking off the starboard bow”.
      “Shields up! fire deflection lasers and prepare counter criticism torpedoes”.

      I think this automatic reaction to the slightest bit of criticism launched at China is getting to be a bit like muscle memory now. Sprecken ze duckspeak?

      • jjongdouche

        You sound like a writer for Glee. I didn’t make it past your first sentence, your word diarrhea was that witty, really. Anyway. Depends what you mean by ‘criticism against China’. If what you’re saying is that I think China is somehow superior to the West, I’ll dare say Britain is a damn finer country than China anyday. But every single nation in the world has it’s dirty secrets. Perhaps China has the most of all. I think the problem is the West portrays Chinese people, especially Chinese men as being these asexual innocent people with no desires, so when scandals like this emerge it seems all the more disgusting and perverse, because our original perception of Chinese people is skewed again, and we realise they do weird crazy things and have sex just like every other people on this planet, and it just seems odd because it catches us off guard. It’s easier to look at Chairman Mao and think he was faithful to his wife than Bill Clinton ever was, even though we all know what big fat slags they both were. A Chinese guy getting all that tail seems freakish. Are you saying there are no Western officials with mistresses? Has nobody in the US government been found guilty of extortion before? I’ll be waiting for the news of the Chinese Jimmy Saville or Sandusky soon. Not too long ago there was a Shanghaiist article about the organised rape of two pre-teen girls by officials that made me sick to my stomach. It made me ask what kind of disenchanted commie uncaring society could produce such scum and give them such power. And then when I researched my own country’s officials, guess what – they’d been there done that ten times over, a good 30 years before this story even emerged. So you can say what you mean want. But then it doesn’t matter, because we can’t hear you over our free healthcare anyway.

        • Rainer

          The difference between the rape of girls by Chinese officials is it was done by “commie”, while your “own country’s officials” were doing the same “democratically”. Thats also why they are allowed to do it even “ten times over”.
          As this exceptionalism can be extended to any scandals, BBC molester of Stafford Hospital, the West can always talk about hairs freely while having a bald-head.

          • ScottLoar

            Ranier’s Logic:

            Rape by “commie” official – bad, reported by the West
            Rape by “democratically” official – bad, and 10 times more because not reported by West

            Which proves the West are immoral hypocrites.

        • mr.wiener

          I’ll dum it down a bit if you like. You are deflecting….as in: “Yeah but this also happens in….etc”.
          Not denying the western democracies are not a den of thieves and horse trader, but I don’t think it was the point of the article. Just some sad act and his slightly frumpy bit of fluff being handed back by the Vietnamese who are probably heartily sick of such people.

          • Guesst

            The scale of the corruption is over the “Great Wall.”

        • MonkeyMouth

          your healthcare aint free. mine (canadian) aint free, either. dont pretend. when austerity hits our respective countries, watch out. we’ll have people dying in our hospital waiting rooms in droves.
          and oh, ya… very insightful when you say men in china get horny sometimes. Point is is that government folks are power hungry. they are bored, jaded, strung out. these mooks are chasing their own dragons. Like when you save up enough dough, and try caviar. then caviar becomes abalone, etc etc etc. Rich assholes get bored, and their tastes become more and more sophisticated. “MM… never fucked a bald one before…MMM”… its as simple as that. And unfortunately here, its ten times worse because the boys’ club that is the CCP are so cliquish and corrupt and the general population are so afraid of them, its a perfect storm. “go ahead and sue me if you want, my father is blah blah blah” “Oh, daughter LiLi, just close your eyes and have him do what he wants. Think of our future!”

        • DragonBallSack

          Bill Clinton poked a few girls… that is it. If you are the Chief of the worlds most powerful tribe and can’t dip your spear in a few consenting adults, something is wrong. Mao on the other hand made a habit of screwing underagers, bareback all while he had some misc. STD cocktail. Hundreds… documented. Please don’t compare. Slick
          willy was an amateur perv.

          • donkeykong

            Yep, nasty Mao thought that screwing hundreds of underage teen virgins would prolong his life and cure his STD’s.

          • Hongwu

            And that’s because the bastard liked stuff like western theories [communism,etc] and their way of life, industrialism that whole crap.

          • Dr Sun

            As opposed to what ?
            The Confucianism that preceded and made China the stagnant country it was

          • ScottLoar

            I will not let Slick Willy slide on by. He did it to an impressionable and some would say thoroughly pixillated 22 year-old White House intern while in office and in his office, then had the gumption to lie to the public and to the public’s prosecutor, compel his personal secretary to lie, and the members of his cabinet to publicly defend him as well. Acting on good faith Madeleine Albright, the US Secretary of State, publicly pronounced the President’s innocence, only to discover that Bill Clinton lied. That he still shows his face in public is testament to the dementia of some of the US public and the shameless brass of one Bill Clinton.

            As an American I don’t hold accountable the conduct of those in other countries (Mao, Profumo, Berlusconi), but neither can I excuse the conduct of the 42nd president of the US simply because others did “it” when in office. Yes, the married sometimes do it on the outside, but not with those in the organization who depend on you for a living and not with those who lack any sense of the consequences like a mixed up 22 year-old girl.

            So saying, I welcome correspondence from independent and aware 乘女 who may be lurking here, thank you.

        • donkeykong

          ” I think the problem is the West portrays Chinese people, especially Chinese men as being these asexual innocent people with no desires….”

          Ridiculous.
          Anyone that has ever visited China has seen that prostitutes are everywhere in China, and it is obvious that many Chinese men go to those prostitutes.

          You can’t walk a block in China without seeing the KTV’s, massage parlors, hairdressers, baths and other businesses that offer prostitutes.

          • Guesst

            Funny you mention that. I’m in China now (Chongqing) for Chinese New Year with my wife and children. Yesterday, while they went shopping and I had the “guard” of the hotel show up at my door with a prostitute (ShaoJie). Took me ten minutes to get rid of them.

          • Dr Sun

            was she hot ?

          • Guesst

            The guard? The prostitute? My wife? Or your mother?

          • Dr Sun

            Well I know my mothers hot, my father married her, but I don’t think you’ve met my mother she lives in England. Your wife and daughter were out shopping, but as your still with them “was” would be in the wrong tense, the guard I assumed was male so that only leaves the hooker?
            Did you really need that spelling out for you ?

          • bert

            edgy!

          • hess

            Sure it wasnt a (XiaoJie)? Theres no way to get rid of the 烧姐’s without the help of Mr. Muscle

        • BigCAD

          You sound like a writer for Glee. I didn’t make it past your first sentence, your word diarrhea was that witty, really. Anyway.

        • Guesst

          The difference is western countries have THE RIGHT to challenge authority. Try doing that in China. Don’t worry though, the way Western countries are going, we’ll be China soon enough.

        • Guesst

          And how the hell do you fix anything by simply saying “duh… well others are just as bad…” ??? Most people aren’t simply “bashing” China but offering ideas and suggestions and rolling their eyes at the lack of caring about issues that affect theirs and their children’s lives.

          • Guesst

            …. so, acceptable is being “just as bad”

          • Guesst

            If your friend jumped off a bridge, would you? HELL YA MOM!

        • Tjh14

          I notice the last part of your name is Douche.

        • bert

          “I think the problem is the West portrays Chinese people, especially Chinese men as being these asexual innocent people with no desires”

          Thinks that “the west” is the same as blogs and chinasmack posters. Thinks “the west” is anything not China.

      • tengu

        We know enough not to wear lousy jeans with a Chanel jacket!

        • mr.wiener

          I’m sure you’d look wonderful in Chanel. :)

      • MonkeyMouth

        “but Captain, I’m a DOCTOR, not a UN peacekeeper!!!”

        • Guesst

          I like you

          • MonkeyMouth

            (blushing)….

      • quake

        China is on top of he western allience

        China Passes U.S. to Become World’s Biggest Trading Nation

        By Bloomberg News – Feb 9, 2013 3:36 PM ET

        China
        surpassed the U.S. to become the world’s biggest trading nation last
        year as measured by the sum of exports and imports, a milestone in the
        Asian nation’s challenge to the U.S. dominance in global commerce that
        emerged after the end of World War II in 1945.

        U.S. exports
        and imports last year totaled $3.82 trillion, the U.S. Commerce
        Department said last week. China’s customs administration reported last
        month that the country’s total trade in 2012 amounted to $3.87 trillion.
        China had a $231.1 billion annual trade surplus while the U.S. had a
        trade deficit of $727.9 billion.

        • ScottLoar

          Dear Quake;

          Bloomberg News is blocked in China for reasons you and I well know, but congratulations to China on passing the US as the world’s biggest trading nation. But, please do not take that congratulations personally, it will not give you more face.

          Please help me understand:

          1) What is “the western alliance (sic)”? I cannot find this term in any reference.

          2) In what areas has China advanced relative to its own position years ago (e.g. personal income, technology) but is still declining relative to US advances (e.g. personal income, technology)?

        • mr.wiener

          Congrats on being no. 1 , I’m sure your own efforts contributed to this.

          Can’t find the quote for you right now, Some one made the contribution a while ago that China’s best etiquette now resided in Japan, it’s best confucionistic ideas in Korea, it’s best calligraphy in Hong Kong, it’s smartest people in America, it’s richest in Canada, it’s most compassionate among the poor, it’s most unscrupulous in power and it’s brightest hopes for the future packed into crowded school buses drink san lou milk powder.

          I applaud China’s efforts at lifting so many people out of poverty and hope as it’s international standing rises, so to will the lives and fortunes of it’s people.
          Happy new year mate.

          • Hongwu

            best etiquette in japan? I doubt that. they are westernized as all of asia [minus some minorities in china, laos,etc]

            confucian ideas?? korea? they are more into tech,education and other shit.

            The rest I agree with you

    • ScottLoar

      “I don’t think I could begin to compute the situation in the US.” Then perhaps you can defer to an independent press, judiciary, commissioned agencies, investigative reporters and the public’s taste for scandal in the US to satisfy your reckonings and compare. All this would be news, just go ahead and look it up. Or do you think that if the UK is bad then the US much be proportionate to population that much worse?

      • jjongdouche

        Take a seat, Santorum. Have you shown your politics lecturer your Disqus archive yet? Who let you back on here anyway.

        • ScottLoar

          Your ridicule is irrelevant. But, you sell yourself low by currying favor defending tu quoque fallacy, just for the sarcasm “Like the west (sic) doesn’t have it’s own yucky officials”.

          This is not a question of which is morally superior, East or West, China or its arch enemies of the current age the UK, the US and Japan. Instead, look to the institutions and rule of law which inhibit officials’ abuse of office and bad conduct. Or, jjongdouche, at least try to understand. Just try.

          • Jahar

            ridicule being irrelevant is irrelevant.

          • ScottLoar

            As yours is irrelevant ridicule.

          • Guesst

            And so ends a wonderful debate…

      • MonkeyMouth

        scandals in the US= too numerous to mention. the dif: not a lot of grassroots corruption. if any, in fact. cant bribe your way into getting a drivers license for example. but them seppos at the top= corrupt as fuck. go read that book “confessions of an economic hit man” if you want a taste.

        • ScottLoar

          See my comment to jjongdouche about institutions and rule of law. Yes, you can’t bribe your way into getting a driver’s license, but that doesn’t mean officials are without corruption. Say, MonkeyMouth, ever heard of Rod Blagojevich? He was found out by reports, FBI investigation, and the public prosecutor. Most importantly, his abuse of the public trust was regarded as criminal and not an accepted part of his official privileges. You can see the difference, yeah?

          If scandals in the US are “too numerous too mention” it is because those scandals are uncovered, published, and prosecuted. An anonymous report in the US is enough to trigger investigation by journalists, members of the opposition party, and people just looking for dirt. Morally debased? Everyone likes that kind of story, if only to say to themselves “I’m not THAT bad”.

          • MonkeyMouth

            never heard of that dude…. but not surprised it happened and all that. never saying the good ol’ usa is immune to bad govt. in fact, their govt is perhaps the worst of the worst. was just pointing out the fact that grassroots bribery, etc is far far far far less common there. but…. senor loar, the corruption in america is SELDOM reported because its against its interests. the media is controlled by financiers who dont want to truth to be told. toooooo numerous to mention. throwing this blagojevich or whoever under the bus is the same as the chinese throwing this dude under the bus. covers the big story, and satisfies the public to a degree.

          • ScottLoar

            From MonkeyMouth:

            “the corruption in america is SELDOM reported because its against its interests. the media is controlled by financiers who dont want to truth to be told. toooooo numerous to mention”.

            That you believe such nonsense is example of the failure of elementary education, further proven by your grammar.

            MonkeyMouth is embarrassingly typical now, one befuddled by his own life and so without discriminating understanding or an analytic mind turns to conspiracies to explain matters. Such simple explanations are comforting and satisfy a dwarfed mind, yet he perversely believes he understands a higher truth that the rest of us just can’t get. 400 years ago MonkeyMouth would be looking for witches to burn; today he’s got “financiers”, “the media” and other bogeymen to blame for his inability to understand.

          • Guesst

            If you don’t believe that mainstream media is (at least moderately) controlled by the government (just about any nation these days), then I don’t know what to say, except keep reading mainstream media. I’m not defending China, but the world seems to be giving up on politics and letting the media and the powers that be control them. True for China (obviously), the U.S., Britain, Canada, and Australia… you want examples, just ask.

            Or just keep watching Fox and feel nice and cozy.

          • MonkeyMouth

            atta boy…… take Lenny back to Kansas

          • bert

            Anyone who thinks they are truly informed by the media anywhere is a pure dolt.

          • ScottLoar

            We were talking specifically about the US media being controlled by “financiers” (bankers is the bugaboo, eh?) and now you volunteer government. The US press, television, magazine commentary controlled by financiers? Proofs, Guesst. The US press controlled by government that cannot even stop leaks from being published, talked about? Proofs, Guesst.

            To lump the Chinese media – television, press, published commentary, which from its very inception serves the state – with that of the US or UK which from its very inception was made as a medium for criticism, entertainment, and popular expression, and continues independently of government (excluding censorship under the most extreme circumstances such as war, and often national security is breached in the name of press freedom as well) is either willful ignorance or base propaganda.

            I don’t watch Foxx television, I don’t know what it means to be accused of watching it, but I don’t watch the Playboy or sports channels either although I am a straight, married male.

          • MonkeyMouth

            wtf are talking about????? Dont you know who rupert murdoch is?? You dont know nuthin…. you are being so stupid as to even judge my whole LIFE.. (MonkeyMouth is embarrassingly typical now, one befuddled by his own life and so……..)
            Dude, i am not like you who think the wars in the middle east provoked by america are for freedom. I am not like you who think the medical industry actually want to cure disease. I am not like you who think that the army on america;s streest are there to save us from jihadists. I am not like you who think the patriot act is there to ensure american freedom and democracy… need i go on? you sound soooooooooooooo brainwashed. dig a bit deeper than CNN and foxnews next time you want the news, dude.
            my ‘dwarfed mind’ challenges you to a battle of wits any day of the week. so watch it, charlie

          • jjongdouche

            http://www.sunray22b.net/paedophile_perverts_in_hmg.htm

            In Daily Mail English so even you can understand.

          • ScottLoar

            No, you miss the point, so I repeat:

            “This is not a question of which is morally superior, East or West, China or its arch enemies of the current age the UK, the US and Japan. Instead, look to the institutions and rule of law which inhibit
            officials’ abuse of office and bad conduct. Or, jjongdouche, at least try to understand. Just try.”

            Look up “tu quoque fallacy”, because you still don’t understand. Just enter and click, it can’t be simpler, then read the definition. Or if you want Chinese look to The Bedbug Argument:

            臭蟲論是20世紀中國重要作家,魯迅先生提出的。魯迅先生批評當時的中國人,被批評時會聲稱其他國家也有同樣的錯誤,來掩飾自己的錯誤;其名句:「凡中國所有的,外國也都有。外國人說中國多臭蟲,但西洋也有臭蟲。」。[1]現今社會,臭蟲論是用來批評不擇手段,企圖掩飾自己錯誤的人。臭蟲論亦是邏輯謬誤,被外國稱為「Tu quoque」。

          • Chang Liu

            Hey lay off the Brits. They have a long esteemed history of public school abuse which translates to sexual perversion in later life. It is their cultural idiosyncrasy. Where would the Brits be without a bit of good ol’ fashioned self deprecation and perversion?

          • quake
      • starsky

        UK is land where white girls and black guys get raped in turn

        • mr.wiener

          For f*ck’s sake will you quit posting those lame arse vids and obsessing about inter racial rape!!

    • Charles

      @jjongdouche:disqus your rant is as crazy as it is stupid… are you seriously going to compare western officials to Chinese officials? There is no such thing as an honest Chinese official. The are all completely corrupt because that’s how the system is set up. Of course every country has it’s corruption… but the West, by and large, can’t hold a candle to China. If you live in China and have any real-life experience, you know this is true and you are being disingenuous.

    • bert

      Then white do all non-white countries want to go to white countries? Oh yeah, the life is still better there.
      I don’t think you could compute your way out of a bucket of gutter oil.

  • donkeykong

    “Such an ugly woman, and she can still be a mistress? There must be a problem with the aesthetic tastes of government officials!!!”

    I would hate to be a Chinese woman. The Chinese people are so quick to judge
    women only by their beauty and label them as “ugly”.

    Men are only judged by their money, and women are only judged by their beauty.
    So very sad and superficial.

    • mr.wiener

      Apparently they are sad acts as criminals go. He only stole $1.5 million RMB and she’s kinda homely.

      • tengu

        Shows a lack of initiative on his part, didn’t steal enough, mistress is ugly, bad taste in clothes. Who wears a quilted leather jacket in Vietnam? I think they could all take a tip from anyone with any sense and learn what a proper break is for pants!

      • MonkeyMouth

        maybe he pissed off gary glitter down there in viet nam

    • jjongdouche

      As it is. Chinese netizens are renowned for their preference of taking the high road.

    • dave

      I think this is more a “male online” thing, not a “Chinese male” thing.

      I mean, when your girlfriend is an airbrushed and PSed model or AV star, of course regular girls can’t compare!

      • bert

        No, this is a Chinese thing. I hear girls in China pick on another girl’s look more than guys. If it isn’t their bf or gf then they are “ugly” or “poor” or a “farmer”.

    • gumiho

      That’s an “ugly woman”? looks pretty good to me.

    • Chang Liu

      Wow out all the issues this article throws up this is the comment you pick up on? Seriously? How does that comment tell you anything about the condition of Chinese women? One idiotic comment and all Chinese people are sexist now? Casual internet misogyny is common every nook and cranny of our interwed. So is casual racist generalisations.

      • donkeykong

        My experience from many years of working in China for an international company tells me much more about sexism in China.

        • Chang Liu

          Be more specific. Tell me one example of sexism that is unique to China and doesn’t happen anywhere else?

          • donkeykong

            Certainly not unique to China. But, it does seem to be much more blatant and frequent in China.

          • Chang Liu

            Than where exactly? Are you comparing like for like or apples and oranges? Hint. the only other country that is similar in size and length of patriarchy and developing economy is….? Oh thats right India and country is a shiny beacon of equality. Give me a break.

          • Chang Liu

            You know, to some extent I agree with you. BUT you have to keep in mind the difference between gender equality in China and West whilst both are protected by law one is imposed top-down by communist ideology (China pre-communist was probably one of the worst countries for gender equality marred in a long history of patriarchy and misogyny chiefly thanks to confucianism which can still be felt in China but more prominently in Korea and Japan) and in most of the liberal West (excluding some notable countries like Switzerland) equality were earned bottom up by long protracted period of struggle. Which is why one is more superficial and the other more resilient. I agree gender equality isn’t where I would like it to be but considering what we had before only less then half a century ago it is heaven on earth.

            Don’t just take my word for it. The most recent gender equality index the world economic forum
            (http://www3.weforum.org/docs/GGGR12/MainChapter_GGGR12.pdf) places China in no.69. Now lets do a quick comparison of this data against countries which can be meaningfully compared to China e.g. India (economic and population size), Korea and Japan (cultural heritage). India is placed 101 and Korea and Japan is at a miserable 108 and 105 respectively. For reference the top 4 countries are all Scandinavian with USA coming in at 22, Brazil 62.

            I am certainly aware of institutionalised sexism in the government position of China. Speaking from personal experience my auntie who for most of her life laboured in the Justice department failed to the promotion she sought for after and certain point (she by all accounts was a very capable woman who forgone having children to focus on her career) now she runs a successful private law firm. However once she LEFT the bureaucracy she experienced a swift success in the private sector. In fact some of the Richest women in the world are are disproportionally represented by Chinese women from the PRC, and that is telling.

          • AnthonyLudovici

            I think women were happier under confucian/traditionalist systems to be honest.

            Women like to feel protected and safe. It’s very dangerous to allow a woman free reign when she’ll take all her influence from pop culture like Lady Gaga, which basically results in her being promiscuous/behaving unladylike.

          • Chang Liu

            Really? I respectfully disagree! You know the thing that spurred recent change was a landmark study done in the US in the 1950s (where you had your prototypical system of men as breadwinners and women as domestic goddesses fantasy where able to realise itself on a mass scale thanks to the post-war economic boon). The findings where shocking. Overwhelmingly the women interviewed where unhappy. What you refer to as the golden age of traditionalist family arrangement where in fact domestic hell for a lot of women who find themselves unwittingly upholding male dominated fantasy which they realised they fulfilled but wasn’t what they wanted. We all know what happened since then.
            Back in the days when resources are scarce, where reproduction was risky and being physically stronger conferred bigger advantages, I could see how under such circumstances patriarchal societies evolved which kept women little better than objects. However we live in different times now. There is no rational or scientific reason for women to enjoy less freedom, education welfare than their male counterpart.

          • Hongwu

            Gender equality is a must, if we truly believe that everyone was born equal under heaven.

            But promiscuity [both male and female] needs to be punished with slow-slicing, executions and punishments to the entire family of the transgressor.

          • Chang Liu

            Promiscuity has always existed. It is just one of those things made easier by modern technological advancements in contraception. I for one think having more sexual partners in life has lots of benefits to society.

          • Hongwu

            Left avoid going kamikaze against confucian thought… China had gender inequality even before confucian thought stepped in [which was about the days of Han Wudi]. what about the thousands of concubines during the warring states? and those buried alive with their former husbands?? at least a part of that ended durign confucian days.

          • Chang Liu

            You forget before Han dynasty China still had slavery. The Confucian I refer to is the Confucian Revival or Neo Confucianism from the Song dynasty. Massive strides where made in terms of Gender equality during Tang dynasty where women began to take part in commerce, owned and passed down property. All that was taken away during the Song dynasty where the Neo-Confucians emphasised womanly ‘virtues’ and confined them to little more than man’s property.

          • bert

            China still has slavery. Wake up you horse blinder wearing retard. Stop reading books that mention a few examples of how China had such a fair and equal system for all people during a period of a few months. I am sure ALL of these women amounted to about 10 females, but of course all the books you read will make it sound like most women enjoyed such a free and open system.

            Getting a history lesson from a Chinese person is so typical and boring.

          • Chang Liu

            Yeah and not reading makes you understand things better. What a moron. I’d rather be boring than an ignoramist any given day of the month.

          • bert

            Making feet look like a little pig hoof so that they can masturbate the man.

          • anon101

            women and men need to be equal? does that mean next time a woman hits you, you can turn around and smack them one? no? oh, so women cant be equal, and wouldn’t want to be equal either. They like to retire earlier than men, they like to enjoy longer life than men, they like men opening doors for them and they like being able to act like a b**** for a couple of days every month. They like to know that if they divorce you they will most likely get your children they like to know know they are female and very different from males.

            so no, i dont think women and men are equal, not in the courts, not in our our bodys, not in our minds. the last two are the main thing that will mean we are never equal. our own minds tell us we are not. generally people pushing for equal rights are the ones who are ashamed of their own brain. if you meed someone on the street, you may not remember their name or what they were wearing, you may not remember exactly what was spoken, but you will remember if they were male or female.

    • http://twitter.com/RedHotRussia Augis Barkov

      I think that judging mistress by beauty is the correct approach.
      After all, she is mistress – not wife and not friend.

    • Lila

      I agree so very sad.

  • ScottLoar

    Perhaps this serves notice that even an official bilking less than the cost of a middle-class apartment in Beijing or Shanghai will be caught. If so, judging by the quoted Chinese readers’ comments, the lesson seems to be lost, e.g. “Our village head’s BMW 750Li is worth more than that”.

    • Dr Sun

      I’m guessing this guy, being such a small potato and only embezzling such a small amount (by Chinese Government Officials standards), could not pay for the necessary protection in the PRVN.

      • ScottLoar

        I think you are more than likely right.

      • Chang Liu

        Whats PRVN?

        • Jake The Peg

          Private Room Vegetarian Nightclub

        • Dr Sun

          Peoples Republic of Vietnam = PRVN, it’s a common abbreviation similiar to CPC= communist party of China, or PRC = Peoples Republic of China.

          • Hongwu

            Always thought it was PRV…

          • Dr Sun

            just goes to show you still have much to learn Hongwu

          • Hongwu

            In the end those are just acronyms. just like north korea is DPRK [democratic peoples republic of korea] and so on…

          • bert

            Ho Chi Min hated commies for the most part but he needed someone to help give him weapons. He was fighting for Vietnam not the international world of communist buttplugs. He regretted getting involved with hard core retard communists.

          • ScottLoar

            Actually the correct acronyms are CCP and RVN.

          • Chang Liu

            I thought it was CPC.

          • Chang Liu

            Cheers

  • MonkeyMouth

    ya…. parading a small fish around while the ‘great white sharks’ as the commenter above describes then as, go free. Its a small small step in the right direction, i suppose, posting these on the net. but as implied… this guy probably just pissed off the wrong person.
    that ‘self criticism’ comment is frikkin priceless! get him/her to write full time for cS… then at the very least the ‘jokes and humour’ articles can have some semblance actual geaity. seriously, that the funniest bit i have ever seen or heard from and easterner.

  • Appalled@everything

    Nice bit of cooperation between Vietnam and China. I hope this man is executed. There should be no leniency when civil servants abuse the public trust for their own gain. Shoot him in the head and show the body on the news.

    • MonkeyMouth

      but if we do that, we’ll have no govt left! boo hoo!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/gordon.gogodancer Gordon Gogodancer

      shooting the people at the bottom of the ladder hasn’t really ever changed anything.

      • ScottLoar

        I doubt people on the bottom of the ladder getting shot appreciate that.

      • Appalled@everything

        Then don’t stop with the bottom of the ladder. The point is obvious. Also, bottom of the ladder? Seriously? The punishment fits the crime, China is riddled with cancer, and as with any cancerous cells, you cut them out, all of them, leaving no cell remaining, no matter how small, or ‘low on the ladder’.

        • ManofEarth

          ‘nother sick lil white trash boy feeling big in china…

          lol

        • Dr Sun

          you really think they are going to arrest, convict and imprison 80 million CPC members including themselves ?

          • linette lee

            …………….arrest, convict and imprison 80 million CPC members including themselves…………

            That will be a happy new year for all chinese in the world.

          • Dr Sun

            Where would we put them all Hainan ?

  • Guesst

    The fight against corruption is confusing and unpredictable.

    Is it real? Well, they’ve arrested a lot of people.

    But they’ve also arrested a lot of the whistle blowers. Remember the ChongQing sex scandal? If not, Google it. Then Google the name Zhu Ruifeng. He’s the journalist that exposed it all. Since blowing the whistle, he’s been detained by authorities, and (as reported) “divorced his wife—rather than subject her to harassment by government officials—and his online interviews and Weibo posts are frequently subject to censorship”

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/china-news/chinese-reporter-with-evidence-against-officials-under-police-pressure-341536.html

  • hun

    Anyone noticed how far they made them walk in shame in the middle of a populated street :o

    Sad thing is, if he had more money he could’ve bribed himself out of this, that’s what vietnamese police are known for.

  • dave

    Happy New Year, everybody!

    • MonkeyMouth

      here comes the sssssssnake!!

  • http://twitter.com/khawachen Karze

    Chinese police arrest only petty officials for corruption but never dared to arrest mighty Grand pa Wen Jo Bo who is worth $2.7 billion. Instead state machinery deploys all its resources to block and hack the newspapers like NYT who blew the whistle on WEN.

    One third of all top Chinese politicians are billionaires and send their children to most expensive school abroad in Europe and US.

    • Dr Sun

      Only 1/3rd ?

    • Guesst

      That story is not as transparent as you think. I’m not on any side on this, but Wen, in my opinion, as someone who knows a lot of the ins and outs, was set up. If I was to explain the whole thing, it would take pages. Short story, Wen busted some corrupt officials, Wen hates his wife who is in bed with said corrupt officials. Did you happen to notice that none of it was in his name. I don’t know if he’s completely clean, but there was a hell of a lot more to that story than was told.

      I’ll give you that it should have been told, but I don’t believe Grandpa is 100% guilty. He’s got a huge history of speaking for the Chinese and getting in crap with his colleagues.

    • Guesst

      Instead of just reading mainstream media, read it, then research it. Cuz if you just read it, you’re just a part of the mainstream media puppet machine.

      • bert

        hahaha! How is anyone going to ‘research’ this? You massive fagot!

  • Cleo

    why would you run to someplace as humid as Vietnam? You could get impetigo.

    • Dr Sun

      Cleo, you do realise that impetigo is a bacterial skin infection- strep (streptococcus) and Staph (staphylococcus).
      Caused by:
      1.Animal bites
      2.Human bites
      3.Injury or trauma to the skin
      4.Insect bites

      And is not found exclusively in Vietnam but in every country worldwide ?

      ps- it isn’t a biological weapon invented by the Japanese either.

    • Alice S

      LOL.

  • dim mak

    Stole a belt buckle, did we

    • MonkeyMouth

      nice one….

  • Kate

    There’s some pretty cute Vietnamese cops there :)

  • vincent

    Well guess he won’t be enjoying New Year / Spring Festival, to everyone else the commenters, staff and even you damn trolls at ChinaSmack have an enjoyable, safe and prosperous year of the Snake.

    • Dr Sun

      you too Vincent

    • mr.wiener

      You too and everyone else as well.

    • ManofEarth

      wish u fucking white trash aka wiener aka sun aka vincent retards some brains for 2013 ; )

      • vincent

        lol I hope you saved up enough for that penis pump you wanted or was it a dildo? I forget :P

        • ManofEarth

          sick white trashes are dreaming again – u still wet lil sissygirlies? ; ) go ask ur friend for some wiener up ur rotten ass =P

          • Charles

            Trash is an uncountable noun.

      • mr.wiener

        Why thank you kindly, and may your chooks turn into emus and kick your dunny down.

        • ManofEarth

          reading ur comments- u sure need some more u sick lil white trash from europe

          • mr.wiener

            Manners are a gift you give yourself sir. Happy new year

      • Hongwu

        Message to nationalists/average angry people: If you truly want to honor your ancestors, we are NOT in 2013… this is surely NOT the Huangdi callendar.

        • starsky

          year of the snake. I am a nationalist also but i want to honor my descendants as much as my ancestors. so I let her use modern tools

    • Alice S

      You too.

  • YourSupremeCommander

    Who masterminded these nasty puke green colors on them viet uniforms?

  • Pro China

    You never know, maybe she has nice tasting pussy likened by this official.

  • Mr. Ed

    These arrests for individual corruption are just PR stunts to appease the masses. The Chinese government has done absolutely nothing to fix the systemic issue of corruption in their country. I fear that change will never come. Not peacefully at least.

    • starsky

      not when its a foreign country that fought china before. vietnam+china police force forever

  • GJGuan

    I bet that number is closer to 15 million.

  • A J

    Everyone knows who is really clean and who is corrupt. Damn you comminists

  • Red Scarf

    Photographs carefully done. I was expecting a boarder line to show up, in which the Vietnamese officers would then pick them up and sling them across the boarder onto Chinese soil. Kinda remind me when Bart Simpson when to get “THE BOOT”.

  • nannasin smith

    it has selected the bureau chiefs/directors of several of the more clean and honest government.

    LM2596

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