‘Manly Women’

Learn the latest Chinese internet meme that may reflect a new trend in Chinese people’s opinions about gender roles…
女汉子

[nǚ hàn zi]
noun.
Manly woman. According to Baidu Baike and Hudong Baike, this Chinese internet meme refers to “women who look feminine on the outside but are ‘pure men’ on the inside.” These women are characterized by not being particular about manners or bearing; they are cheerful, candid, optimistic, “capable of bearing responsibility”, and have a “strong heart”. Their “aura” is relatively stronger and thereby are more likely to influence others.

From Sina Weibo:

#The Cutest Manly Woman#

Russia’s most adorable manly woman has gone viral, with her loli face and muscular body attracting a circle of onlookers [people’s attention]! Recently, a series of “The Most Adorable Manly Woman” pictures went popular online, a 17-year-old Russian beauty with the face of an angel but muscles more rugged than a man’s. She can rival Nezha in the cartoon series A Hundred Thousand Bad Jokes. Netizens quipped: “Sure enough [she has] the face of an angel, and the body of a hunk!” What do you think?

Julia Vins and Nezha

Julia Vins and Nezha [last]

At time of translation, this topic has generated 370,549 discussions.

Manly women's stunts

Manly Women’s Declaration and 20 Standards – Would rather be a manly woman in the world of men than play mind games in the world of women. [If you meet] over 10 standards, you are a “manly woman-to-be”; if you meet over 15 standards, you are a “standard manly woman”; if you have all those 20 habits…then, please allow me to call you “Brother”!

20 standards for being a manly woman.

[Translation of the text:]

It is said these are the 20 standards for being a manly woman. [If you meet] over 10 standards, you are a “manly woman-to-be”, if you meet over 15 standards, you are a “standard manly woman”, if you have all those 20 habits…then, please allow me to call you “Brother”!

1. When unable to remove the cap on a bottle of water, keeps trying instead of asking for help.
2. When it’s too hot, will “run naked” at home.
3. Often laments, “what a hassle it is to be a girl.”
4. Likes to tilt back head and pour down the chips in the bag into our mouth.
5. Like using foul language when chatting online.
6. Even in summer, willing to go to Old Hotpot [hotpots made with used soup] restaurants with no air conditioning.
7. Able to change the water container on the water dispenser/cooler all by yourself.
8. Loves playing online games like Warcraft and League of Legends.
9. When it’s too late, will directly go to bed without showering or brushing teeth.
10. Don’t like wearing makeup and seldom take selfies.
11. Very easily becomes “bros” with guys.
12. When eating outside, likes sitting cross-legged or shaking one’s leg.
13. Thinks shopping is a hassle.
14. Seldom goes to hair salons , nail salons, beauty salons, etc.
15. Usually washes an apple and then eats it directly [without peeling, paring, or cutting it].
16. When at home, often doesn’t wash face or hair.
17. When travelling, carries own luggage.
18. Can’t stand girls who are coy and speak coquettishly, thinking they are affectedly unconventional.
19. Even when wearing high heels, dares to run like crazy to catch the subway or the bus.
20. Even when people of the opposite sex are present, you dare to order a large portions [of food].

When you have a son, he should be like Sun Zhongmou; when you marry a woman, you should marry a manly woman! Wink (Rage Comic on iPhone → http://t.cn/zjKgLAz)

[Note: Below is the rage comic with the original Chinese captions translated into English. Here is the original Chinese version.]

Manly woman girlfriend translation

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  • Stefan Yi-Cheng Xu Mattsson

    white women too manly, I prefer my Chinese women.

    • Refractions_of_Error

      Like this you mean?

      • I love Sexy Chinese girls

        nahh..

    • Refractions_of_Error

      What is manly about this? Put the vaseline DOWN!

      • Stefan Yi-Cheng Xu Mattsson

        Asians are more gracile than white, lower BMI and more child-like features. I prefer cute girls over hot girls.

        White women always complain that it’s so difficult to get as thin as white models. Asian girls are normally as thin as a western model.
        I prefer thin girls over chubby and stocky western women. For instance I am not attracted to Asian americans too.

        • Refractions_of_Error

          “…more child-like features…”

          Pedophile tendencies perhaps.

        • Alex

          hello

          • Refractions_of_Error

            Excellent! Hahahah!

          • biggj

            haha, Yeah, I knew a guy that thought like him. Now he can’t be 500 feet from any school. hahah

          • The Enlightened One

            I think it has to do with insecurities. They want to control the “little girls” rather than be man enough to see their partners as equal and strong.

            I like strong, tough women. I want to know that if some guy talks smack to her, she is tough enough to smack that loser in the face until I get there.

          • EmotionalManboob

            What a feminist fool, white knighting beta male sucker you are.
            Feel sorry for you dude.

            You have so much to learn.

          • Stefan Yi-Cheng Xu Mattsson

            I have never said that I like children, that’s something all you guys extend it into. I like young-looking adults, simple as that.

            I just like girls who for example like Hello Kitty rather than Sex and the City.

            Western girls are just too much like Miley Cyrus.

          • biggj

            I kind of know what mean…..but listen to what you’re saying. You are attracted to someone who looks really young and acts really young like wearing hello kitty and little pink book bags and shit. Children are like that.What you are describing is a child. It’s like saying I want beef but I want it look and taste like chicken. Really you don’t beef at all….you really want chicken.

            So when you see female Asian children you must have some kind of attraction to them…and that is makes it weird.

          • Stefan Xu

            Look, I am just 19 years old so naturally I would like girls around my age. I also only date girls who are younger than me since I not attracted to girls older than me. Since I’m a teen myself what’s wrong for me liking teen girls?

            Am I pedophile?

          • biggj

            You’re 19 which means you’re an adult. Kind of weird a 19 year old dating a 14 or 15 year old. So whats going to happen when you are 40 and still attracted to 13 year olds? That makes you a pedophile….more or less.

          • Stefan Xu

            I’m not attracted to 13-15 year olds. I am attracted to asian 18-21 year olds and they happen to look as old as western 14-15 year olds. Asians look younger than they really are.

          • Stefan Xu

            For instance my girlsfriend is the same as me 19.

          • Zappa Frank

            you’re just 19? well for me it’s ok, when you’re so young is quite normal to have this kind of rigid ideas about what you like. When i was 16 i liked just black girls and dated just black girls, it wasn’t easy since in italy there aren’t many black girls…and thinking about it now it was weird

        • Zappa Frank

          that’s true but it’s also about asian males like you that even in adulthood conserve some childish features. it’s called Neoteny and among asian people is stronger than among other humans (not just whites)

    • mr.wiener

      Your loss sir.

    • Alex

      Enjoy having to take care of a grown-up baby

      • Stefan Yi-Cheng Xu Mattsson

        Asian girls act as their age, while white girls act as their 5-10 years older than their age. Like 20 year old white girls acting like they’re in their late 20s.

        • biggj

          Asian girls act 5-10 younger then their age. a 20 year old girl acts like shes 12. Well and white girls do act older is a lot of cases.

          • Stefan Yi-Cheng Xu Mattsson

            sure, I asians act younger. But that’s a good thing in my opinion.

            White girls think and talk about sex and alcohol in their early teens…

          • biggj

            “White girls think and talk about sex and alcohol in their early teens…”

            And that’s a problem? lol

            I just don’t like immature girls myself. The girls i know in china some are cool but most don’t have a clue and I can’t relate to them…if I was 16 I could.

          • nimei

            Instead here when they’re 24 and in a stable couple they figure out they haven’t had enough experience and fuck around with everything that has a dick

          • Refractions_of_Error

            And asians start working in massage joints in their pre-teens.

          • the ace of books

            Son, I really want to ask you: what’s good about women behaving like children? That’s a good portion of half the population infantilizing themselves just because society thinks it’s hawt. And that shit’s just creepy.

            Better that people (not just men, not just women – everyone) try to meet and deal with the world as sapient and aware adults, instead of telling half the population they’re only worthy in their 妙龄, and the other half that “shit, it’s all downhill after 18/20/24!”

          • I love Sexy Chinese girls

            This Childish behavior came from Japanese anime characters. It’s kinda annoying when girls in their 20s act like a 12 years old girl.

          • the ace of books

            Actually, now I’m curious where the real inception of this behavior is. Anime’s easy to cite – you see it all over anime and manga – but I’m wondering when it got its start. You look further back in history and women were expected to have grace and beauty and courtliness – no less damaging stereotypes, but at least they weren’t infantilized. So I’m curious when it got considered Hawt to behave 12.

          • Kate

            You know, having lived in Korea and being western. It boils down to this:

            Western people are just a hell of a lot more independent. They’re more mature in a lot of ways. Teens start working as early 15 years old (yes, they have their first paying job at 15, I did). They start driving at 16. Asians don’t. Western teens move out at 18 to go to college, they have a dorm room or apartment, their own car, a job, bills to pay. Asians stay at home with the parents till they’re like almost 30.Socially, westerns are more experienced early on. Schools have dances and a lot of social functions and proms and really promote socializing, where as asian schools don’t.

            I saw a lot of mid 20 year old korean women who acted like teens, waiting on some guy to take care of them while they lived at home with mommy and daddy. Most of the american women I know that age have jobs and homes and cars and are independent of their family and don’t rely on a man to bring in income, they do it themselves. Having lived in both cultures, I really prefer the western culture of indepence over the infantizing culture in asia.

        • Kai

          That’s pretty subjective, isn’t it? Based on what behavior you think is “appropriate” at what age?

          You’d risk digging a hole for yourself but maybe you can give us an example of a 20-year-old “white girl” acting like someone in their late 20s?

          This is going to end up being a minefield of possibly entirely (subjectively) honest but nonetheless likely inflammatory generalizations…

          • Stefan Yi-Cheng Xu Mattsson

            I am not going to give you any example, I am saying generally.
            White people do act and look as they’re older than they really are. White people in they’re teens try to become like an adult as fast as possible wereas Asian people act as they’re still kids in their teens.
            So you think that sex and alcohol is something teens should be interested in?

          • Kai

            Yeah, I know you’re saying generally. I’m just trying to get an idea of what is fueling your generalization.

            Again, when you say someone acts older (or younger) than they “are”, it suggests you have a specific idea for how someone is supposed to behave at a certain age. It’d be interesting if you could help us advance this conversation with examples.

            Overall, I’m tempted to cite the sociological phonomenon of adolescence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescence

            For most of human history, I’d say people in their teens WERE “adults”, getting married, working jobs, having kids, going to war both with “white people” and “Asians”.. It’s only in fairly recent human history that we’ve seen this extension of what was traditionally “childhood” by way of “adolescence”.

            Given the way things are now as well as my own background and what values I was raised with, I’d have to say I’d be slightly worried if my teen was interested in alcohol but not the least bit worried about them being interested in sex.

            Both things are subject to the “forbidden fruit” rule but I think alcohol is the less worrisome of the two. I think it’s quite easy to educate a child to be responsible with alcohol. For one thing, alcohol in general is not particularly “tasty” as much as it becomes an “acquired taste”. I’d probably let my teen taste it and consume some under my supervision so they know it’s nothing special. If your teen ends up abusing it or otherwise being irresponsible with it, it suggests there are bigger problems with your kid for which you are probably at least partially responsible for.

            As for sex, something that is fueled by hormones and arguably has less immediate unpleasantness compared to the taste of alcohol (I dunno, I don’t think people touch their errogenous zones and go “bleh, that’s awful! I’d rather have soda.”), I guess I’m more of the liberal school who believes I can educate my teen to have healthy, responsible, safe attitudes towards sex. I wouldn’t want them to be casual about it but I’m not going to shame them for being interested in it. Sex is fucking awesome, but it’s also a lot of both physical and emotional risk and possible baggage. That’s something I’d hope to impart on them.

            Hard to say if I’ll succeed but that’s my plan. I’m less about forbidding what my teen should or shouldn’t be interested in and more interested in managing their interests. I’m more about recognizing that sex is totally something I and everyone I know was pretty interested in at that age. I don’t think alcohol is that big of a deal compared to abuse of it. I also think there’s a pretty big difference between someone who is 13 and someone who is 19, even though both end in “teen”. I hope that between those 6 years, I’ll be able to ease them into whatever society finds acceptable, reasonable, and responsible at that age.

          • Wololoo

            When we are already at this topic, what are some good line for writing to chinese girls on Momo for having sex with them? Just go straight forward, invite them to my home and hope 5% will answer or saying I am looking for a language partner, go on 1st date to Restaurant and 2nd date to Cinema, kiss her and bring her home? Do I need to invite them for those dates as a foreigner or should I let the girl pay?

          • Refractions_of_Error

            “…should I let the girl pay?”

            ‘Let’ her pay? My friend, first of all welcome to China. Secondly, if you are even THINKING of ‘letting’ a local girl pay, you are in for a bitter surprise. Sigh…I can’t do this. Anyone else willing to deal with this? I don’t have the energy right now, maybe later in the evening.

          • Wololoo

            I am no chinese Beta Peter and are actually quite handsome and young (24) and on a prestigious university in Beijing. So I defenitely do not want to pay a yuan. When I went to clubs 2 years ago, the girls I had sex with payed the taxi ride to their homes and even the hotel, if they lived with their parents or at the university. I am also not looking for a gf or a wife, which I know is quite costy in China. I just wonder how to have sex the easy way using MOMO.

            I think I will make an empiric study about this using some spots at other places, so there is no danger to get recognized, before I use it where I live. In the end I will get a procent number for the yield for either of the two methods. Of course it won’t be just quantitative, because I will employ a rating system from 1 to 5 for each girl, based on look, education etc.

          • David

            Well, the simple truth is that for most of Western history teens were simply treated as smaller adults by the majority of societies. In Asia it is a little more complicated as the family unit was involved in a slightly different manner but it came down to the same thing. Children were taught what their responsibilities would be later in life and as soon as they were old/big enough to meet those responsibilities they were adults. However, that being said, we live in a very rules oriented world today (the number of people and situations we face as teens and adults is exponentially higher than in the past) where there is a tremendous amount of intellectual work that needs to be done before we are ready to take care of ourselves. In most countries the teenage years are used to prepare young adults to take on adult responsibilities. In other words, because there is so much more to learn to understand the consequences of our actions we are not ready to make adult decisions until we are much older than, in years past. At least that is the theory. ..

          • biggj

            “So you think that sex and alcohol is something teens should be interested in?”

            That’s how government official like their girls.

          • Refractions_of_Error

            “White people do act and look as they’re older than they really are” – this is called maturity.

            “..wereas Asian people act as they’re still kids in their teens” – this is called spoilt little brat.

            “So you think that sex and alcohol is something teens should be interested in?” – Yes.

          • the ace of books

            I am not going to give you any example, I am saying generally.

            This is sloppy arguing. You’re making vast and unpleasant generalizations and moral judgements regarding people’s behavior, and then refusing to explain why you hold those. One is tempted to take such generalizations as statements of preference, fueled by gut reactions, rather than as valid points of view.

            So you think that sex and alcohol is something teens should be interested in?

            I’m also disappointed in the way you’ve picked the most incindiary possible way of phrasing your question. Put in these words, any rational person’s going to say “no, but”, which makes them sound like they’re conceding the point to you. Son, ain’t no concession – you’re asking the wrong question the wrong way!

            Sex and alcohol are parts of an adults world, and teens are on their way to becoming adults. An adult learns how to not overdo, what their limits are, how to behave rationally, and what choices they want to make re: sex and re: alcohol, but how to they learn these things? Through experimentation and learning. As teens. So taking the question as it was meant to be asked, it is fine, yes, that teens get exposure to sex and alcohol as long as that exposure is moderated with explanation, understanding, and choice.

          • Ami

            Jesus christ. Maturity=/= drinking or talking about sex and alcohol.
            Maturity= equals responsibility, emotional resilience and ability to be independent.
            There are tons of people of all races who want to be mature but aren’t. At the same time, acting like child (WHEN YOU AREN’T) isn’t a good thing either: In fact, its a sign of intellectual disabilities/delay or mental instability.
            You seem to have some fetish with “innocence”, whatever, just don’t hurt any actual children you freak.

          • epicnorway

            ‘white people’???!!!

          • Refractions_of_Error

            I haven’t seen your hereabouts before. Get used to it. This is among the more subtle comments you will find.

          • Jahar

            are dolls and playing dress-up, throwing pouty temper tantrums something teens should be interested in?

          • Stefan Xu

            No, that’s childish. Teens should just be interested in becoming more intellectual like reading different things, watching doumentaries, and doing sports. No other bullcrap. No sex no alcohol.

        • donscarletti

          You make white girls sound fantastic.
          Mature women can take care of their man emotionally, stroke his ego when he lack’s confidence, show him calmness when he’s stressed, stand by him when he feels alone.

          Immature women are an emotional burden, making demands when he’s stretched, criticising him when he’s full of doubt and being somewhere unavailable when he needs her.

          The only good thing about very young women are their looks. Give me a 20 year old who acts 30 any day.

        • The Enlightened One

          HAHAHAHAHA… they act their age…?

          OMG, you are one funny guy! FUNNY!

        • Kate

          Spot on man, I’m a 26 year old white woman and I already find myself going 20mph in a 60. I go to bed at 7 pm, wake up at 4 am. I like to complain about the room temperature

          • Probotector

            You’re also really beautiful. How’s your husband and little girl? Are you returning to Korea any time soon?

          • Kate

            Well hey thanks Probo! My husband is coming to the USA next week and my little girl is beautiful and smart as always. I’m not going back to Korea for a bit…….I need a break from that place……I’m happy back in the USA, love being home a lot. Love being back in the countryside with my animals, lake, porch. My baby is happier here too. Anyway, thanks for asking :)

    • Ana Belen Ruiz

      I agree asian girls look younger, but act younger? Not sure. most asian girls I know act very adult and risponsable, which is very positive

      • Kai

        It’s a stereotype, mostly of more coddled urbanites. In China, I’d say the majority of girls are actually quite mature and responsible as you say and have perhaps seen and experienced responsibilities and burdens at ages the average Western girl can’t even fathom. Overall, I’d say Chinese girls are more “mature” in some regards but maybe less so in other regards. Again, this is a generalization, but basically you can argue that there is a different mix of naive innocence (even feigned) and lack of innocence between the two. But yeah, there are princess-syndrome, cutie wootie, “sa jiao” types that really stand out.

    • Zappa Frank

      you mean more then you?

    • Matid

      obvious troll

      • Stefan Yi-Cheng Xu Mattsson

        I’m serious, I am not attracted to western girls regardless race. They’re just too mature for me. I like small innocent shy school girls. Like that asians girls in their 20s act and look like they’re in their teens.

        The last girl is 42 btw.

        • 剑胆琴心

          hard to say!
          some aged white ladies also very different elegent outstanding attactive too.
          asian women good at being childish young and cute but white ladies have that classic style more…
          their skin and hair not so young as asian, but the spirit is more attactive…
          and i do not have a fancy of a lady over 35 still being childish young…

        • mr.wiener

          Pedo Bear is happy.

          • Refractions_of_Error

            Seen a few odd comments around here. But this is bordering sick. He’s into children and has just admitted it.

          • Stefan Yi-Cheng Xu Mattsson

            I have never said that I like children, that’s something all you guys extend it into. I like young-looking adults, simple as that.

            I just like girls who for example like Hello Kitty rather than Sex and the City.

            Western girls are just too much like Miley Cyrus.

          • Stefan Xu

            Look, I am just 19 years old so naturally I would like girls around my age. I also only date girls who are younger than me since I not attracted to girls older than me. Since I’m a teen myself what’s wrong for me liking teen girls?

            Am I pedophile?

          • Stefan Yi-Cheng Xu Mattsson

            I have never said that I like children, that’s something all you guys extend it into. I like young-looking adults, simple as that.

          • mr.wiener

            Hmm. To each their own then. Personally I find the “fetish” of teen girls in Asia a little disturbing…but as you have said, it is the individual’s choice.
            Just by the by, a while ago some Swedish/Asian professor put out a paper suggesting western men who had “yellow fever” where in fact closet pedophiles for all the reasons you suggested [infantile manner, delicate features small build etc]. Possibly the worst case of some butthurt guy not getting any and lashing out I’ve ever seen.
            The arguments you have made are all personal and I apologize for making fun of them. You have tried to present them in an un-insulting way, but I think you are unlikely to get a fair hearing from this crowd. I thank you for your honesty at least.

          • ami

            I just thought about something: you say you like young-looking and young-acting girls but then you go on to call yourself weak and nerdy.
            So who wears the “pants” in your relationship? Two infantile weak people don’t seem like a great pairing. And what about when the both of you age? Will you break up with her? I doubt a cute young-looking girl will want to date an old, nerdy man and asian men aren’t known for aging well.

            I hope you’re rich. Really rich. That might help you get girls because “sugar babies” DON’T come cheap.

          • Stefan Xu

            Look, I am just 19 years old so naturally I would like girls around my age. I also only date girls who are younger than me since I not attracted to girls older than me. Since I’m a teen myself what’s wrong for me liking teen girls?

          • Jahar

            I love pedo bear!

          • Stefan Xu

            Look, I am just 19 years old so naturally I would like girls around my age. I also only date girls who are younger than me since I not attracted to girls older than me. Since I’m a teen myself what’s wrong for me liking teen girls?

            Am I pedophile?

        • Refractions_of_Error

          Your comments are enough to put you on a police watch list in any western country. This is not even a joke.

          • Stefan Yi-Cheng Xu Mattsson

            Why is it complete normal in asia then? Just look at Japan.
            Men all over the world want small teenage girls. Many old western business men would also agree. 18 years olds are the ideal. Just look the the fat Chinese government official that got caought having sex with a 18 year old mistress.

            My comments are no different from asians. Just look at Japan, they are more extreme than me.

          • Claude

            Normal? I lived in Japan and read an article in a journal on this topic of the Japanese male and his fixation on young girls. According the research this fixation on the very young is relatively new. 20 to 25 years a ago, the models or porn actresses were in their early to mid 20’s. Today, porn actresses are just old enough to make porn and are washed up in their mid 20’s and portray themselves as even younger. The bikini models are as young as 12 or 13 with permission of their parents

            The research believes that this fixation on the very young is economically related. The recession in Japan has dis-empowered the Japanese male to the point where he no longer can even fantasize about an affair with an adult but a child.

            So pal, you have to ask yourself – why is it you feel so weak and powerless that you are attracted to little girls. Is it because you can’t hold your own in an grown-up relationship?

          • Stefan Yi-Cheng Xu Mattsson

            I have low confidence and self-esteem. I have low social skills and find social situations confusing. I am no alpha male and feel like white and black women are too strong and tough for me. I don’t like conflicts and I am like a pussy and try to avoid fights. I am actually your typical asian nerd. I feel that I can’t provide anything to a white or black girl. I don’t have the physical things to do so lol. This Russian girl shown here would win me in a fight. I am not so masculine. Asian guys only have a chance on the asian girl since we are too feminine for the other races.
            I just want a delicate high school girl that I can protect.

            Moreover, why don’t you so much white guys with black women? Maybe because white guys find black women too masculine?
            The same with asians, asians find white women too masculine.

            Masculinity: black people > white people > asian people

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            I really just want to have a bowel movement on your ugly face. I think it’s best you either turn gay or stay celibate forever. I’d feel sorry for any woman with you.

          • Stefan Yi-Cheng Xu Mattsson

            Hey, that’s not nice to say, what have I done to you?
            Why do you feel sorry for any woman with me?

          • Guang Xiang

            Everybody has preferences, I suggest you accept what others think instead of passing judgement with insults

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            Yes everyone has their preferences but I don’t like pathetic people who need to associate with even more pathetic people in order to make themselves feel adequate. Just my opinion of course but I think a lot of people will agree with me.

          • Jahar

            he probably wants girls that can make him feel like a man. Strong, mature women women cant do that. Young, dependent girls can. So comes the attraction.

          • connie

            In psychology, Peter Pan Syndrome refers to younger generations’ perceived unwillingness to grow up and their corresponding alleged immature behaviors (note: Peter Pan Syndrome is not an actual disease).

            This syndrome is said to be most prevalent in the generation born in the late 1980s and 1990s where the development of a sense of responsibility allegedly does not occur nearly as early as it used to.

            Possibly contributing factors might include over-protectiveness of modern parents, rising costs of living, and increased difficulty in finding satisfactory partners.

            From Wikipedia

          • mr.wiener

            I’ve always though asia was never never land as it is full of little white boys who never grew up.

          • connie

            Michael Jackson was into that Never Never Land shit and it made him very popular in Japan.

          • mr.wiener

            Do you know the difference between Michael Jackson and a pediatric rectal thermometer?

          • Claude

            When in Rome…

          • mr.wiener

            ….Dress as a Spartan.

          • Claude

            AKA, Arrested Development. But stop encouraging the troll. Looking at his photo on his discus profile he doesn’t look like a person with Aspergers as he claims. Fashionably moussed and dyed hair photoed with his friends. Remember he’s socially stunted. He doesn’t get social cues, therefore has no friends. He’ll reply, “It’s compensated learning, I’ve taught myself to behave in a certain manner around people.” And other things he picked up on Wikipedia on the topic of Asspergers. He and his friends are sitting around giggling like school girls.

          • Stefan Xu

            Hey, that’s not nice to say, what have I done to you?
            Why do you feel sorry for any woman with me?

            I have never said that I like children, that’s something all you guys extend it into. I like young-looking adults, simple as that.

            I just like girls who for example like Hello Kitty rather than Sex and the City.

          • Germandude

            Are you new to windows and just found out about ctrl + c and ctrl + p?

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            In your words: “I have low confidence and self-esteem.”

            What girl would want to hang out with a guy like that? I’m not accusing you of being a pedophile but I think you need a girl with similar low confidence and self-esteem in order to ever have a chance of having any kind of relationship whatsoever. Kind of pathetic if you ask me. Everyone has their preferences but I find you pathetically insecure. You’re weak, so you need someone even weaker than yourself to make yourself feel adequate. If you’re trolling I want to take a dump on your face for wasting 5 minutes of my life, if you’re real, well, I don’t even know what else to say.

          • Guang Xiang

            Although I can see what you’re getting at with this masculinity theory, there are certainly exceptions to the rule. It is up to you to break the norm, which I suspect is related to the sort of environment you grow up in. If you grow up in a white environment, I imagine you’ll have just as much “masculinity” as them.

          • linette lee

            wow…you are too much.

            Plenty of Chinese men are tall and masculine and well dressed where I was from. I am sure they have them in China too. Maybe in the big city where people are more well nourished. Chinese are small because they don’t eat dairy as kids. Milk and all the dairy products make you big and fat.
            I was a very picky eater as a kid and was very hard for my mom to make me drink milk. But I would eat so much candy and soda. I grew up drinking pepsi daily as kid. :(

            http://s1.djyimg.com/i6/111120122708100311_1–ss.jpg

          • Stefan Xu

            I am not small or short.

            I am 185 cm and weigh 75 kg. I am not fat and I go to the gym 3 times a week. I am very fit.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            That’s pretty skinny but life is more about being mentally tough than physically tough anyways but I have a feeling you’re even weaker mentally than you are physically. No need to be an alpha male but you sound like you’re a total pushover.

          • Stefan Xu

            I have always been bullied and that’s why I have lower mental confidence.

            I have Asperger Syndrome which which me find social situations confusing and not liking it at all.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            We’ll you’re still young, still have time to change and gain confidence. What country do you live in?

          • Stefan Xu

            Sweden

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            Did you grow up there? If you did grow up there or in some other predominately non-Asian environment, I’d say there was a good chance you were bullied because of your race in addition to whatever social retardation you may have. You better do something to better yourself, it’ll be terrible to go through life with low confidence and self-esteem.

          • Stefan Xu

            Yeah, I got bullied because I was asian being the only asian kid in my year at my school. It is better now when I am adult and adults are more mature not bully anymore. Sweden has also become quite multi-cultural at recent years which had helped a bit too.

          • I love Sexy Chinese girls

            “Asian guys only have a chance on the asian girl since we are too feminine for the other races.”

            Most feminine men are from Japan, Korea and China. NOT all Asian are feminine.

          • Stefan Xu

            South east asian guys are also quite feminine with their short and petite figures.

          • linette lee

            Chinese men are not feminine at all.

          • Germandude

            GREAT TROLLING up to this post. You should’ve played it a bit longer…

          • Claude

            Yeah! I certainly hope he’s a troll and if not – give serious consideration in committing suicide! But he’s a troll, that post was just way too much.

          • Kai

            Yeah, by this point, the benefit of the doubt that this is just misguided honesty is waning…

          • mr.wiener

            Start playing rugby and learn how to cook.

          • Stefan Xu

            When I was younger I played ice hockey and soccer. I know how to cook too.

          • mr.wiener

            NEVER admit to playing soccer.

          • Germandude

            Exactly, for that it’s called football. You know, the game in which you kick the ball with your foot. Don’t confuse that with that egg-running and kickin thing. American football that is…

          • mr.wiener

          • David

            Again, quicker than me Mr. Wiener. LMAO

          • David S.

            This is by far the most offensive post of this thread. You, Sir, have been downvoted!

          • David

            Plenty of white men date black women. I have dated a number of them. Quiet honestly it has much more to do with the woman’s mindset and personality then it does her race. I realize your just a troll, but I think you need to go back to troll school and practice some more white boy..

          • lonetrey / Dan

            Aww, there there. I’m sure under the right circumstances, you’d do fine in a confrontation. In any case, it’s a matter of life preferences. There’s really no need to justify yourself.

            Also, I may be a week and more late to this party, but I still feel it was a little unfair how defensive everyone got over your taste in girls. Honestly, I think too much was read into what you wrote.

          • Claude

            Sorry! I should of said ” Today, porn actresses are just old enough to make porn legally and are washed up in their 20’s even though they portray themselves as younger.”

            Do I appear as someone who has given this too much thought? Have I outed myself? But seriously, porn saturates Japanese society.

            Interesting enough. I went to a friends house who’s really wasn’t racist at all. Even relatively politically correct when it came such subjects as whaling etc… So I entered his house and met his wife for the first time and looked around his lovely home and saw a bookshelf of porn DVD’s. It was such a dichotomy because he was kind of politically correct. His wife would walk past them daily like they were his hobby or something. Feminism and woman’s issues are really in their infancy in Japan. Some of the many contradictions of life in Japan.

          • Kai

            Maybe they aren’t his but her’s?

            LoL, or at least maybe she enjoys them with him? So that would make her quite liberated?

          • Claude

            Maybe, I actually never viewed porn before I went to Japan. It was a Japanese woman (20) who wanted to watch the western variety. She was really curious about the size of dicks and breasts etc… It was a lot to live up to let me tell you but I did give it 110 percent.

          • Kai

            LOL, 110%. Good effort but it’s unrealistic in the long run to try emulating Western porn. You’ll end up giving yourself so much pressure that you’re not enjoying what should be a nice moment between you and your partner.

            Surprised you never viewed any porn before going to Japan (unless you went to Japan at like…10-12 years old?). Most guys I know have had meaningful exposure to porn by puberty, especially in the West. I’m not talking about just sitting around watching porn all day (which I guess is more possible now in the age of the Internet) but like flipping through a nudie mag or something. Back in my day, it was nudie mags, maybe a porno VHS, or trying to make an image out of scrambled porn channels on cable (a la American Pie).

            Yeah, a lot of Asians are curious about Western porn since they’re mostly exposed to the Japanese variety and norms. The reactions and observations are usually quite amusing to those of us who grew up with Western porn. There’s stuff they find odd, just as we find certain things odd with Japanese porn.

            My background also makes girls being interested in porn seem strange and improper but I appreciate a girl with a healthy interest in sex. It’s a wonderful thing and it must suck to be socialized into fearing and not (responsibly) enjoying that aspect of humanity.

          • Claude

            Really, scrambled cable channels? Oh fuck, that’s funny! What can I say, I gravitated towards left wing politics early on in life and surrounded myself with the politically correct. I spend many years in a punk rock scene that may of been as repressive and dull as Christianity. Not to mention, I’m Canadian. A double dose of dullness.

            Japan was a slap in the face and my only regret is that I didn’t go earlier in life. A great time.

            Yeah, I agree. Repressing ones sexuality does more harm than good. I dated several feminist and I swear I felt I was going to have to sign a contract before intercourse; sit down with a lawyer have him explain the legalese. Ugh!

            But still porn is exploitation. I’ll have trouble changing my opinions on that. Scrambled cable, Oh man. bahahaha..

          • Kai

            Yeah, not sure if the cable channel thing is uniquely American but the reason it was so funny in American Pie was because so many people identified with it. Cable TV came with a set-top box where you’d change the channels on that while keeping the television itself on (usually) channel 3. However, IIRC, if you changed the channel to 2 or 4 while changing the cable box channel to a porn channel (even if your cable plan didn’t include it, cuz a premium channel and not a basic included channel), you’d usually get scrambled snow but you could ocassionally make out the image and audio was often quite good.

            It’s arguably pathetic but one of those hilarious and shared adolescent coming of age experiences people of my age have.

            I would imagine left-wing people to be more liberal about sex and porn and I would’ve never guessed the punk rock scene to be repressive and dull with regards to sex.

            Feminism runs the risk of extremes just like everything else. I don’t think I’ve ever dated any stereotypical feminists. The girls I’ve dated were all pretty normal (to me) in that they were neither submissive or overcompensatingly insecure about their relationship vs. a male. Then again, I’m not very patriarchal or “macho” either.

            I think porn CAN be exploitation. I’m not ready to say it is.

            This is relevant:

          • Claude

            Political constructiveness was thick in the 90’s where I was. Punk Rock took a strange turn then from Nihilism to being very active politically. Fund raisers for woman shelters and food banks. a Hard Core straight Edge Scene and Punk Cooperatives. I could go on but the truth of the matter was that it was just youthful enthusiasm that went overboard. It wasn’t unproductive but it just became oppressive so I left the country.

            http://www.punknews.org/article/12763/reno-police-classify-and039straight-edgeand039-as-a-gang

            That’s an excellent example in the extreme.

            I’m not punk these days but an old guy with fits of nostalgia. I’ll get to your post ASAP. Hey Kai, why can’t I drag and drop on China smack?

          • Claude

            Jeez, Political Correctness. My mind was in two places. Sorry.

          • Kai

            What do you mean by drag and drop?

          • biggj

            Where are you from? You never watched porn until you went to japan?I’ve been watching porn since I can remember. When I was little we didn’t have cable but we had 3 channels 2 english and 1 french. I just had nob to change the channel tv with only 13 channels on the nob. Anyhow around 12 or 1 in the morning the french channel would show this soft core porn called “bleu nuit” which translates to blue night. It would not show insertions or dicks or pussy but it would show the act of sex and full on naked womans tits. The chicks were like super hot. I must have been 7 or 8 watching that shit.

            My fucking uncle had one of them huge satellites dishes…like 10 feet wide or something..like the first ones that came on the market. One Christmas he gave me 3 blank tapes full of hardcore porn he taped from the satellite.I was like 13 at the time. And I borrowed my grandmothers VCR and you know you can hook you 2 VCR together and copy a tape to another tape. And I made copies for all my buddies. ahhh those were the days. lol And then the Internet came out….and the rest writes itself lol

          • Kai

            LoL, that’s a pretty cool uncle for any young guy to have. Man, the shit boys did in our time. Kids these days with that new fangled internet thing don’t know how easy they have it.

          • biggj

            It was cool of him but it’s kind of fucked up when you think about it.lol He’s a burn out. I have 9 uncles on my moms side and he’s the worse by far. One of these guys always borrowing money and shit. Oh well. lol

          • Kai

            Ah, well yeah, it’s not a very “responsible adult” thing to do to ply minors with pornography, but “cool” from the perspective of the curious adolescent. I was hoping he was more or less a normal guy who simply understood what it was like as a growing boy and hooked you up in a wink wink sort of way instead of a “i’m just an irresponsible bum without a moral compass” sort of way.

          • Claude

            I raised by a single mom and two sisters and my closest dirty uncle was a thousand of miles away.

            How about that Breaking Bad last night, so good I thought it was the series finale.

          • Kai

            ‘ve read about this before but the explanation blaming the economy doesn’t fit well with why this trend is prevalent in the West as well, when it comes to girls in porn and fashion.

            In addition to the “power dynamics” you mention in such an assymetrical relationship, I think there’s sociological significance in the desire of the participants for “seeking innocence”. Is this a progression from historical trends of males seeking younger females? Is it a counterpart to women seeking the “security” of older men?

          • Claude

            But are friend Stefan (troll?) was comparing himself to the Japanese culture and therefore it was OK for himself and his culture? Strength in numbers, I guess? I don’t believe the inclination towards woman as young as the Japanese male and Stefan desires is that of the male of N America or Europe. Those pics of Stefans were of 13 year old’s or so. Maybe men fantasize about woman who are younger (late teens early twenty’s) but marry 5 to 10 years within their ages.That’s within the general population. Millionaires and celebs seem to marry exceptionally young but they’re freaks and 1 percent of the population. Of course there’s always deviants who lust for children and there are full-time campaigns with authorities to flush them out.

            The Japanese male like em young. It’s not uncommon to see a man on a train reading a tabloid or manga where there’s a very young girl in as the centerfold, she’s is wearing a bikini but she’ really is a child. Every now and then thee will be a headline about a 12 year old who’s blossomed early and has large breast and the mens magazines and late night programing goes into overdrive.

            Interesting phenomenon. Japanese woman are now taking young lovers. Supposedly – again with these theory’s, they’ve been economically empowered in the last few years so they can liberate themselves from having to cling on to the male for security.

            I’m not an Anthropologist, these are just things are read in journals and papers etc.. Anthropologist are like Economists, everyone of them has there own theory and is struggling for recognition through publishing. That and I’m just some guy posting on a blog, what do I know?

          • Kai

            Not sure if Stefan is a troll at this point.

            I don’t think he compared himself to Japanese culture anywhere nor did he say it was therefore okay for his own culture, whatever it is. Did he? I just looked at his history of comments and don’t see that. Have I missed it? Can you link me to where he says that? (right click the “x time ago” next to the specific comment and copy and paste the link)

            Heh, I’m not expecting you to be an anthropologist. We’re just having a conversation where we can share what we know and think for each others’ consideration. The whole point of discussion is to learn from each other or have others prompt us to think further.

            To generalize, I agree that the “young girls” lusted after in a subset of Japanese media (whether as fictitious drawings or real) are younger than the “young girls” typically lusted after in Western media. I’m excluding hardcore pedophilia here. However, I think the vast majority of men in Japan and the West marry 5-10 years within their age, right? It’s not like there are a ton of Japanese guys marrying little pre-teens, right?

            So what I was trying to say in my previous comment is that I recognize there’s a notable culture in anime, manga, and porn that is arguably pedophilic, but there is also a prominent trend of especially models becoming younger and younger in the West as well. The whole schoolgirl, girl next door phenomenon isn’t uniquely Japanese. If the culture of sexualizing young girls in Japan is cause for concern, so is similar phenomenon in the West. And if this trend is worldwide, what underpins it?

            Just something to think about.

          • Claude

            Huh! If you see my above post at 12 hours ago, it starts with me saying “Normal?” that’s because his the post I was responding to is gone. He claimed something to do with his desire with young-ins was normal throughout the region, I think.

            Yes the Japanese male marries 5 to 10 years but I feel they are sexually attracted to much younger girls than in the west (12 to 13years) in general because very young erotica so prevalent in they’re society. Just my opinion, it just seems too young and far too tolerated.

            What underpins it? lets crunch it and see. I don’t really do research on the subject, just come a few articles here and there. Pete Townshend did some research once and went to court and almost to jail. Well, he claimed it was research.

            Frankly, this subject is freaking me out and I’m worried the authorities are watching.

          • Kai

            It’s not gone, but it’s been hidden because of being flagged as inappropriate too many times. When you expand it, I don’t see anything weird, just:

            I have never said that I like children, that’s something all you guys extend it into. I like young-looking adults, simple as that.

            Maybe he edited his comment? If so, then I don’t know what he originally wrote so that’s probably the reason for my confusion.

            There IS a notable (and generalized) difference between what many Asians and Westerners find attractive though. As someone pointed out about Japanese anime, there is certainly more appreciation for “cuteness” and a sort of “childlike innocence” in Asia compared to the West. Big eyes, little cutsey wootsey gestures, etc. It’s part of the reason why I think part of it is some sort of manifestation of an attraction to and desire for “innocence”.

            Yeah, I too feel there is a larger proportion of Japanese guys who are literally lusting after prepubescents or pre-teens than in the West. It’s definitely disconcerting and why I’m curious about what underpins it.

            For example, as someone mentioned, there’s the anime and manga which arguably reflects AND promotes lusting after such young girls. But it had to have a start somewhere, right? I’m not sure the economic theory is adequate personally. It’s plausible but I’m not sure. Does it fully explain the rich and powerful types who have pedophilic tendencies?

            Heh, unless you’re wanking off to this discussion, I don’t think you need to worry about the authorities. Some reading:

            http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/05/pre_teen_runway_models_tracking_the_trend_.html

            http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/fashion/shows/27DIARY.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

            http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=pedophiles-erotic-age-orientation

          • Claude

            I’m sure there’s a post missing. Anyway, those models look 20 to me with makeup. They are used in the industry because they are at optimal weight for modeling at 14.

            That Scientific American article looks fascinating but I’ll have to get to it tomorrow because it”s 3am here. Thanks for the links Kai.
            Cheers.

          • Kai

            The whole idea of an “optimal weight for modeling” is inherently kinda questionable though, right? Hasn’t the age, weight, and sizes of models been getting consistently younger, thinner, and smaller over the past century? What we perceive as “young” not to mention “attractive” itself is changing and has changed over time.

            For example, models are increasingly sought for body types that are more reminiscent of a girl who hasn’t gone through the sexual dimorphism and differentiation that comes with puberty than that of a mature reproductively fertile woman, like narrow even boy-ish hips instead of wider child-bearing hips, .Furthermore, what might the popularity of being “shaved” (both in porn and its influence on the real world) indicate about our preferences for pre- and post-pubescent bodies? Perhaps ironically, despiste the questionably popular pedophilic nature of some of Japan’s anime and manga, “shaved” is actually not very popular in its mainstream porn compared to the West, so there are confounding factors.

            Now, I’m influenced by what pop culture dictates as beautiful, attractive, sexy, desirable, etc. just like everyone else, but when we look at history, there are noticable trends and the sexual objectification of increasingly young females is one that I think is rather prevalent in both Asia and the West.

            It’s a fascinating topic. We could just chalk it all up to the marginalization of the male in a changing world and their resulting insecurity but that’s a bit too pseudo-psychoanalysis to be too seriously left at.

            Anyway, yeah, just pondering aloud here. Cheers.

          • Stefan Xu

            Look, I am just 19 years old so naturally I would like girls around my age. I also only date girls who are younger than me since I not attracted to girls older than me. Since I’m a teen myself what’s wrong for me liking teen girls?

          • Kai

            I agree, it’s natural to like girls around your age and it’s fine to date girls younger than you if you’re not attracted to girls older than you.

            People are calling you a pedophile because the “look” you prefer reminds them of children instead of merely “young” adults. They have a different cultural and social background than you do. You also recognize this “look” as “child-like”, so if you prefer your women to look more like “children”, it raises questions of whether or not you are actually just sexually attracted to actual children.

            If you’re a teenager who is attracted to another teenager who looks like she hasn’t hit puberty, you’d still risk being accused of being a pedophile. Let’s put it this way, if you’re not preying on girls over 4 years younger than you with a very different level of mental and emotional maturity or having your girlfriends dress up in primary school uniforms, I guess you’re safe.

          • Claude

            That SA article was interesting. I was uneasy reading it in public thinking someone was looking over my shoulder and thinking, whats that creep reading? it is indeed a cringe worthy subject.

            A man wanting kids is a mental disorder and the classifications (hebephiles etc) are interesting but but the rest of it was perhaps, a PHD or a grad student grasping at straws desperate to get published. Not mention a writer in need of income.

            I can’t help think of the Selfish Gene theory, though. A mans attraction to a younger woman is a part of his biological need to procreate and create healthy offspring. A young healthy woman of course will be traditionally advantageous until recently with medical science making it possible for a woman to have children into her 40’s. So now that we’re in the 21st century and we have above mentioned technology we really we can override our biological wiring and date someone or own age that has the maturity of ourselves. Richard Dawkins said himself in The Selfish Gene that we override our biological inclinations every time we out on a condom. So we should have the self-awareness – and with self-awareness comes maturity to see this. This is whats happened in the last 30 years, we’ve become more complex creatures. I don’t think there’s a scientific excuse other than some left over biological baggage when checking out young babes.

            Personally, a couple of years ago I found myself single and having a couple of flings with younger woman and in both trysts, I found myself thinking,”how do I get out of this”. At my age, I check out a young hot woman and a small part of me thinks, “nice!” But the bigger part of be thinks shes just a kid.

            I haven’t read the other two articles yet but I’ll get to them.

          • Kai

            Yes, as humans, we can override our biological/evolutionary impulses or instincts but I linked those articles not to suggest there’s a biological/evolutionary reason for being attracted to youth (much less pedophilia!) but to illustrate how the trend towards sexualizing the increasingly young is prevalent in the West as well. We cite Japanese anime and manga as notorious examples of such a trend in Japan/Asia but there are equally concerning trends in the beauty, fasion, modelling, etc. industry in the West (which has global influence).

          • Stefan Yi-Cheng Xu Mattsson

            I have never said that I like children, that’s something all you guys extend it into. I like young-looking adults, simple as that.

            I just like girls who for example like Hello Kitty rather than Sex and the City.

            Western girls are just too much like Miley Cyrus.

        • Robert Rou

          Raw, unfiltered, and just plain creepy. Welcome to chinaSmack.

        • linette lee

          Her eyes are fake. Fake doll eye contact lenses to make her eyes bigger and brighter. Not naturally born that way.

          http://www.chinasmack.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/chinese-girls-makeup-before-and-after-04.jpg

        • Kate

          I am very manly looking huh? It’s all the testosterone coursing through my veins!!!!!!! RAWRRRRRRR

    • the ace of books

      Mmm-mm. I love the smell of stereotypes in the morning. It smells like forever-alone.

      • Stefan Xu

        I am not forever alone. I got a GF.

        • David

          May I ask how old you are? If your 19, it is not strange that you like 19 or 20 year old girls who act 12. If your 42, there is a problem.

          • Stefan Xu

            I’m 19, what’s the problem.

    • symon

      I prefer your chinese girls too.

  • mr.wiener

    Well I must admit, I’d tap that…..without feeling too threatened.
    All the BJJ moves I use on the missus she has learned to counter. Asian have a low center of gravity and often damned good core muscles. Here’s to sweaty wrestling with women where ever they come from.

    • biggj

      Yeah, I’d fuck that chick too. She’s not too ripped.she has a nice lower body and face, It’s her torso that too ripped…..ah well, 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.

      • Kai

        Dude, she’s pretty ripped (as in she’s got plenty of definition in addition to bulk, at least to me). Her lower body is buff as hell too. Look at the black and white picture. Those thighs are huge.

        There’s a bit of Photoshop trickery in some of those images too though, esp the rear booty shot.

        Bodybuilding isn’t my thing but she’s otherwise quite pretty and more power to her for enjoying a body image of her choosing even if it is atypical in popular society.

        • biggj

          Yeah she’s ripped, I just mean shes not that ripped compared to other body building chicks. Like the ones that look like they are mutants. Yeah I find body building chicks nasty usually if they over do it, this girls not too far gone. She is pretty. But before I made love to her I would have to arm wrestler first, just seems like something you would do with this girl before you made sweet hulk love to her.

          • Kai

            LoL, more like she making sweet hulk love to YOU.

          • biggj

            She made me cry……and call out her name while we made love….just as I was about to scream rape….I came.:)

          • Kai

            Mental…imagery…too…much…!

  • biggj

    It would be cool if that girl would let me paint her hulk green and I’d dress up like Thor and just have greasy trailer park sex while someone filmed it and put it on the Internet for nerds to watch.

    • Kai

      Hah, you’d be one of those nerds too.

      It’d be awesome. Especially if there is lightning and thunder special effects in the background。

      • biggj

        When Bruce Banner gets pissed he turns to the hulk. Well when this girl gets horny she turns into She-hulk. lol. And only Biggj or a superhero can fuck the hulk out of her. haha God, you could make literally a 1000 porns with that girl and that story line.

      • biggj

        Speaking of nerds, My wife and I just got back from Niagara falls on a little road trip we took. So while there we were looking at things to do and lo and behold we saw an advertisement for “Medieval Times” dinner theater. haha So we get there and already we are kind of lit already. So we start watching it and just pounding back the beer.And by the intermission we were both borderline drunk. So you have some time to wander around and buy shit and just take a break. So I’m getting some beer and I look over and my wife is fucking bartering with the guy selling real swords and shields and shit. She arguing with him on the price of this sword…..I told her ” What the fuck you want a sword for?” The guy wanted 500 bucks for it. So Then I convinced her to just buy a dagger.for like 80 bucks. So as soon as she gets this dagger she turns into this crazy pirate bitch. We get back to the show to watch the rest and the whole time she’s talking like a pirate for odd reason, threatening me with this dagger and calling me a “scallywag”. hahaha I told her this is Medieval times…not pirate times. So anyway by the end of the show we are just wasted. I don’t even remember what knight won the tournament, I know our knight never won because my wife got really pissed about it.hahah So we ended up sleeping in the car in the parking lot of medieval times. So anyway….that was pretty fun filled evening. :)

        • Kai

          Dude…KEEPER.

    • Taoran

      This just made me laugh really hard :-)

    • the ace of books

      I’m sure if you look hard enough, the internet will provide. Protip: include the search terms “Rule 34” and “amateur”. :)

  • Kai

    I love how rage comics have transcended both language and culture. It’s such internet nerddom but it’s awesome.

    • the ace of books

      Actually, one of the most interesting things I find about rage comics is how they’ve changed meanings as they’ve been yanked from culture to culture. In the Western internet they all have little saying and phrases, sort of idiomatic. Those are totally lost when they travel over here, though. Chinese folks don’t know the creepy background to the me gusta face, but instead use it simply as an expression. But then, I can’t say “simply as an expression”, either – I bet within a couple years it, and other rage faces, are going to pick up their own meanings completely independent of the Western internet’s ones. I could say it’s happening already – I’ve seen ragefaces used in context westerners never would, simply because of connotation – but taken as expressions, they’re fine.

      tl;dr: tracking the change of memes is fucking fascinating :D

    • Ami

      Please tell me you confused “love” with “despise”.
      Its the lowest denominator of internet comedy. If I ever wrote a research about the negative effects of globalization rage comics and other overdone memes would be the main topic.

      • Kai

        LoL, how did you confuse your opinion with mine? ;) I used the verb for what I was feeling. We can certainly talk about negative effects but I can still appreciate the positive ramifications, no?

  • biggj

    Official:”OK, this is your mission…….Find Li Tianyi…..and dispose of him. After your mission is complete….I will love you long time, understand?”

    Russian chick says in a thick Russian accent:”affirmative”

    • Kai

      “No, no, no, no. You gotta listen to the way people talk. You don’t say ‘affirmative,’ or some shit like that. You say ‘no problemo.’ And if someone comes on to you with an attitude you say “eat me.” And if you want to shine them on it’s ‘hasta la vista, baby.'”

      • biggj

        Official: Now don’t take this the wrong way, but you are a Terminator, right?
        Girl: Yes. Cyberdyne Systems, Model 101.
        Official: Holy shit! You’re really real! I mean, you’re like a machine underneath, right? But sort of alive outside?
        Girl: I’m a cybernetic organism. Living tissue over a metal endoskeleton.
        Official: This is intense. Get a grip. OK, uhm, you’re not
        here to kill me. I figured that part out for myself. So what’s the deal?
        Girl: My mission is to protect you.
        Official: Yeah? Who sent you?
        Girl: You did. Thirty-five years from now, you re-programmed me to be your protector here, in this time.
        Official: Oh, this is deep…
        Official: So this other guy? He’s a terminator like you, right?
        Girl: Not like me. A T-1000. Advanced prototype.
        Official: You mean more advanced than you are?
        Girl: Yes. A mimetic polyalloy.
        Official: What the hell does that mean?
        Girl: Liquid metal……with a pink shirt.

      • biggj

        Why would someone down vote this?

        • Probotector

          Because some might feel it’s lame to crib lines from Terminator 2. Not me though.

        • Kai

          Petty grudges.

          And how does clearly quoting something meet the definition of “cribbing” anyway?

        • mr.wiener

          It was Skynet.

          • biggj

            Them bastards don’t quit.

      • Probotector

        Chill out, dickwad.

      • lonetrey / Dan

        Hahahahahahahaha! made my night :P

    • fuuuuuuuuuuu

      Find Li Tanyi and deflower his anal ass with a glass dildo strapon.

      • Nessquick Choco

        too late for deflowering, don’t you think so ?

  • wafflestomp

    I’d marry a muscular woman any day. So hot. I love it. We can go on lifting dates. “Honey I’ll give you oral sex if you break your deadlift PR”.

    • the ace of books

      Lifting dates is my kind of dates, man. (Reminds me of that XKCD about “long walks on the beach”. Which: yes.)

  • the ace of books

    Dude, power to those women in the top few shots! The number of times I’ve gone to the gym and seen women/girls (even Russki women/girls) doing real weights over here: like two. Why in the hell wouldn’t you want to look like that? (Okay, the skinny torso’s a bit odd, but she clearly works the legs, too, so props to that. And also to maintaining a proper amount of bodyfat and not going full obsession-mode.)

    I do believe China would benefit from an increase in 女汉子, especially the upcoming “oh god what is going on” generation. Shake up those social norms a bit! Have women (and, hell, men, at that) who can deal with stuff and don’t call for boyfriend/mommy&daddy to fix and buy everything.

    So yeah. This 女汉子 things I can totally get behind.

  • Ana Belen Ruiz

    they are cheerful, candid, optimistic, “capable of bearing responsibility”, and have a “strong heart”. Their “aura” is relatively stronger and thereby are more likely to influence others.

    How this means manly or not feminine?

    • the ace of books

      I’ll take this question not as rhetorical but as a serious one: because in China, there’s a certain mold women and girls are expected to fit to be acceptably feminine. Girls and women who dont’ fit that mold don’t get called “goddesses”, don’t get admired, don’t get etc. They lose “lady points” (the opposite of man-points). And if a woman – hell, even a foreign woman – shows a proclivity toward non-stereotypically-feminine things, they get called “manly”.

      Hell, this happens in the West, even, only to a lesser degree because in the West, people see a few more women in the gyms and without makeup on; it’s become more accepted. Over here, if females aren’t superfeminine, what possible other option is there but “masculine”?

      • Ana Belen Ruiz

        the concepts of femininity are distorted anyways

        • the ace of books

          Sure, and I agree – but I’d argue that concepts of both masculinity and femininity are distorted.

          Females are expected to do X, Y, and Z, else they’re not Real Women, but males are expected to A, B, and C, else they’re not Real Men. The biggest (supposed) insult to eitehr gender is to call them the other gender – for women it’s “bull-dyke” or “manly”, for men it’s “pussy/queen” etc etc. Ain’t right, but it’s how the world does it – if you’re not gendered enough in the right way, then you’re Wrong and Bad and Icky.

          I’ll leave you with a rather good Heinlein quote re: this:

          “A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.”

          • David

            I gave that quote to one of my debate students as a closing statement on the subject of “Being a specialist versus being a generalist”.

  • 剑胆琴心

    i dislike women with muscle….
    but one thing very bad for me is, even not go to gym, my body is very hard as i do a lot sports everyday already….
    the only way for me is to eat less and less…

    • Middle_Kingdum

      You have hard, sexy body? Yum!

      • Refractions_of_Error

        She is at least trying to contribute to the topic.

        • Middle_Kingdum

          You’re right. Bless her heart.

    • NOYB

      Are you a lesbian? Why are you judging other women on their looks? Your body is hard because you’re probably touching your bones. You eat less and less? It’s call anorexia – it’s a medical/mental disorder, get some professional help… and how do you have enough energy to do a lot of sports if you don’t eat – Crack???

      • Refractions_of_Error

        Eattot has recently made great effort to tone down her anger and deal with the topic matter. However much we may disagree with her, it remains her right to put her points across.

        Also women always look at other women. Yes, even your woman. It isn’t about lesbian. Mostly they a comparing body size and dress style. All women do it. I can’t believe you have not realized this. You must be very young, inexperienced or, you don’t survey your surrounding much.

    • Zappa Frank

      a chubby woman is worse than a muscels woman ? I guess is up to which women we’re talking about. The one in the pictures has a really pretty face, but has a man’s body.. i would reather prefer a fatty girl…(i don’t mean obese)

      • BeetFarmer

        The problem is not her muscular body. The problem is her face is incredibly cute… and on a muscular body. It’s like seeing the head of a squirrel on the body of a bear. Freaky.

        Had her face been a little less soft (and white), she could possibly look more attractive.

    • Jahar

      i’ve met some really slim girls with really tight muscles. i don’t think any guy is interested in some monstrous brute. but not eating is not really a good solution. especially if you like sports. do a little research and find out some healthy foods.

      • Nessquick Choco

        The problem is, they make research on baidu only. I can see from my wife. advise : “do lot of sports everyday and eat only 1 apple daily for 2 weeks”. They do not say, that you may probably collapse your body. when you collapse, they find on baidu “drink every evening wenigar with honey” for 1 month. when your stomach fail, than find out on baidu ” … ” you add :-) yayyy

        • 剑胆琴心

          your funny!
          but what you said is true.
          i ask everything on baidu…haha!

          • Nessquick Choco

            Thanks for proving my words :-)

    • David

      Well, don’t eat less, that will just cause you to starve. If your just doing sports and not lifting heavy weights you will be trim and hard not big like this girl (who many men find very cute). That is healthy.

    • booo

      you cheeks do look like they sport way too much

      • booo

        I mean you look like you chew too much you chipmonk cheeks

  • Timeless Love

    mentally insane too

  • 二奶头发

    I think Dongbei 东北 women are more 女汉子.

    • Dongbei lover

      All that beef and lamb, or perhaps manchurian ancestry?

      • 二奶头发

        the winter and the cold too

        • Guang Xiang

          winter is coming

          • the ace of books

            In the [Drinking] Game of Dongbei: you either get drunk, or you die.

          • 二奶头发

            Someone likes watching Game of Thrones….

          • Guang Xiang

            i must object, I like reading A Song of Ice and Fire series

    • the ace of books

      I’ve met a lot more 厉害 women up here than in the south, it’s true. Granted, I’ve never been far far south, so I can’t speak for what they’re like.

      • Jahar

        im in wuhan. lots of little girly girls, but a lot of loud, obnoxious oafs too. not much of a middle ground. They really like to yell.

  • Refractions_of_Error

    oh well, this should provoke some raucous reactions:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24098783

    • mr.wiener

      Harrumph!

      • Refractions_of_Error

        Well said!

  • Refractions_of_Error
  • linette lee

    Sounds like me. I look and dress like a woman outside but I am all man inside. Very independent and direct. I don’t wait for men to do anything for me. You want something done you do it yourself. But not showering before bed it’s impossible. I must shower and wash my hair before bed and I don’t sit like a man. I do curse online when chat but not in person hardly ever. lol.

    • Marcus Black

      What you are saying is the bullshit women in the west are fed. You do need a man. You are not a “strong independent” woman. You are a woman. Sometime in your life you will realise how stupid you were to think you didn’t need a man. Both genders need each other. Don’t fall for that “strong independent” woman myth.

      • David

        It is always hilarious when somebody who does not know you tells you what your like and what you need (and what you should think).

        • BeetFarmer

          Yes it is, they’re called capitalists. And they usually do so in the form of advertisement and commercials.

          Thoughts, much?

          (you’re welcome.)

    • EmotionalManboob

      yuck.

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      Actually Linette I’ve met your type before. These manly characteristics are really just supposed to be a joke, not taken too seriously. I don’t really think you are manly. Otherwise a lot of women would be considered manly. I also need to shower before bed, does that make me not manly? I don’t think so.

      • linette lee

        You like those japanese or chinese bathrobe after you shower? I like them and wear them. I never wear pajamas.

        http://cache9.indulgy.net/zA/RE/19/41DpxG1LQqL.jpg

        • 剑胆琴心

          and i always sleep naked…my body is oily at back, i dislike to wear anything that may cause pox…i hate towels,socks…
          for me, for years i would not buy one towel…

          • Nessquick Choco

            How you dry yourself after shower ?

          • David

            I can not believe I am actually going to agree with you but I am. Wearing clothes to sleep, even in the winter is incredibly uncomfortable. Even silk pajamas are not as good as being naked.

        • KAMIKAZIPILOT

          I don’t wear robes. Who wears pajamas anymore? I just sleep in my underwear, much more comfortable.

  • Robert Rou

    … and when she retires from competition, she’s just going to look better and better.

  • Bazooka Joe

    Now, THAT gives me a hard off.

  • justanotherday

    I just find the binary social expectation when it comes to genders just plain ridiculous. Gone are the days when men are out battling invaders and hunting for raw resources. However, asides from the introduction of contraceptive solutions, women have not evolved at all. Their position is society in terms of civil rights is simply the product of men being killed off in society, working day and night to buy you Gucci bags and other dumb shit women blow their money on. I wonder what the fuck is the point of this, when with the money a western cunt spends on her shoe, I can buy villages of women in China and turn them into my sex slaves. Tell me what is the point of all the wealth in the west when the women run wild and fuck it all up? still don’t believe me, marry the wrong bitch and she takes half of your money when she finds a way to marry up, along with your children and a large portion of your salary claimed by the family that has been taken away from you. but nope, they tell me this is not the right way to go, because society tells me women are fragile and automatically entitled to their whims and as men, your needs must be put on hold and instead focus on resource gathering activities. This is what a real men does they say but women fall head over heels over poor men, or even men who abuse them, so they keep saying they want some rich fucking guy who buys them shit but reall they just want to be made to feel like a women, which explains why they are okay with violence and abusive men at least it puts them in their place. Women have done nothing for the advancement of humanity, all they do is consume and complain. Fucking useless, a dog is more valuable but obviously you cannot fuck your dog, unless you are white and kinky.

    I await the day when I can finally retire and leave this wretched country which I have wrongfully called home. Being born and raised in a society where you are not part of it, just some corporate lankey, day and night, serving someone above. All the whiteys of Canada, you win. One less chink paying the equivalent of your entire generation of blue collared workers have made in taxes, boohoo for the government of Canada because they still need to give you a fucking welfare cheque in the mail. Tax the chinks, feed the jobless, alcoholic whiteys of Canada. I’m sick of this. I’m leaving for good.

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  • Dayumn! that woman can certainly carry my rice! from the grocery shop! to the kitchen!

  • DENIAL

    Go to GOOGLE.COM and type in MALE RHINOPLASTY then click on IMAGES. Email me and tell me what you see. An operation is an operation and ALL of them have had either something taken out or put in.

  • jon777

    Anyone else smelling a trap? I think you might get a surprise when you go downstairs.

  • UserID01

    I dunno man, I admire her for it! I mean, think of the dedication it takes just to get to that size. It’s different for her, maybe, seeing people say things on the internet about her looks and judge her for it, but she looks like this in real life. She goes out into the world every single day looking the way she looks, and I imagine she has to deal with a lot of staring or snide comments and jeering and it obviously doesn’t discourage her one bit. She found something she’s passionate about and stuck with it. She’s obviously happy with her body and she’s worked hard to get it looking this way. I find that kind of intensity and dedication very attractive.

  • qajb

    i’m a manly woman! minus the muscles

  • lonetrey / Dan

    Is it weird that I find the first woman shown to be really hot?

    In anycase, I can certainly appreciate her beauty

  • 蓝狗

    If a ‘manly woman’ describes a female that doesn’t need to spend an hour in the shower putting on make-up and ruining her natural aroma with perfume, then I want one…….Commonly referred as a Tomboy

  • testingtesting

    hi landcrabs

    • testingtesting

      well, I guess it’s no problem get a hold on roids there over, just wonder how big her little peanut is..

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  • jones

    love u

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