White Doves Set Free in Hefei Looted by City Residents

The doves.

From QQ:

A Hundred White Doves Set Free Looted

Two women are trying to catch some doves.

November 13, at the south shore of Swan Lake in Hefei, several couples about to get married purchased nearly a hundred white doves in order to shoot some unique wedding photos and wedding videos. After shooting completed, these doves were “set free”. Just after the film crew left, these “freed” doves met their doom. Many people snatched them up like mad, with one city resident who had just caught one saying: ”This is an dove/pigeon that is used for dishes, it can be eaten.” Very quickly, only a few out of 100 doves were left.

Three young men are trying to catch some doves.

Some men are trying to catch some doves.

A man has caught two doves.

A woman and a man are taking away a dove they have caught.

Comments from QQ:

罱陌紫宸:

As someone from Hefei, I feel helpless… However, doves indeed can’t survive the winter. In other words, they were doomed to die! Because they are not wild, they lack the ability to survive [in the wild]. But seeing people catch them, I want to say [to them]: can I someday catch you and cook you as well?!! All life is equal…

德圪(gē):

Why is the level of thinking like this with people in China?! So sad! Everyone should know the reason why some foreign tourist attractions put up signs such as “Please do not litter” in Chinese now! Wake up! For the image of our great nation.

~貓~:

ㄣ.深蓝:

I think this is more of a reflection of the characters of the nation’s people collectively [not just Hefei]. Broadly speaking, just how many parks or plazas can you find domestically where you can see any doves/pigeons? Foreign parks are filled with flocks of wild ducks and pigeons, and the lakes are filled with especially fat carp…

☏咔咔丶:

I am from Anhui, and from Hefei. I don’t know if these farmed pigeons [intended as food] that were set free could survive in the wilderness. I also don’t know if I would also try to catch them if I was there. But I see many comments criticizing/abusing Anhui people. Actually, if this thing were to happen in other places, I believe it would definitely be the same situation. But this incident is our fault. As a man of Anhui, I apologize. Sorry! I also hope the people of Anhui can conduct themselves with more dignity.

大白鲨:

There is so much malice between people, yet we boast about compassion and mercy. Sometimes what people need is not how to be noble but rather just how to let go of their narrow-mindedness, and have their actions reflect their words. Universal love begins from each individual! Knowing how to be human [a decent person] first, then comes knowing how to treat other people. And never belittle oneself by making a fuss about market pigeon meat.

加油 丫头:

When we watch horror films, we are disgusted by certain creatures/monsters. But if we employ reverse thinking and to see the human beings who behave like this from a pigeon’s point of view, how can humans not be [similar] monsters with beaks and fangs? There are more than just humans in this world…

猪DoDo1:

If something like this happened in any other province, would there still be some of you cursing the locals of that province as having low characters? Just wait until something like this happens in your province, and then you’ll shut your mouths. In fact, none of us should have a sense of superiority. The characters of those who discriminate on the basis of region aren’t necessarily high/good either. This kind of thing could happen anywhere in the entire country, so people are better off thinking about whether or not they would go do the same! Don’t criticize people here and then turn around and go do it yourself.

飞旭/ka飞洋:

Those who like to take petty advantages [exploit petty opportunities] are poor people, but poor people shouldn’t have a poor mind. They only lack education, so what are the propaganda and education departments doing nowadays? The people’s characters are low, so education should be enforced at every level. No one is doing anything about ideological education now and if it goes on like this, the character problem of people looting whatever they see [whenever they get a chance] will be even more a failure of the Chinese education system.

后简:

They can ascend to heaven earlier after they eat [the doves], and stop existing here to embarrass China.

Comments from NetEase:

youmingzhihuo [网易山东省济南市网友]:

“with one city resident who had just caught one saying: ‘This is an dove/pigeon that is used for dishes, it can be eaten.’”
Are they so poor that they normally can’t even afford to eat meat?

quleipeak [网易浙江省杭州市网友]:

I remember a plaza at some country, where people and doves/pigeons coexisted in peace and the doves/pigeons weren’t even afraid of the people!

网易广东省广州市网友 ip:14.23.*.*: (responding to above)

It’s like this in many countries, and the pigeons there can’t be any fatter. You could see them in the schools, in the parks, even in the train stations. While I was studying overseas, there were even some no-good Chinese who stole [caught] and ate pigeons… But the just and mighty Great Britain wisely deported them back to China and prohibited them from entering its borders for 10 years.

castslb [网易山东省青岛市手机网友]: (responding to quleipeak)

[It’s like this] in many countries, not just one or two. There are also successful examples in China. What this looting of doves reflects is the shortcoming in the cultivation of morals in our citizens and the failure of our national education [system], as well as a loss of control and lack of capability when it comes to the management of society in our country.

网易北京市网友 ip:111.193.*.*:

There were elderly people, there were young people, there were young men, there were young women, there were those who were decently dressed, and there were also those who were plainly dressed… This truly leaves people speechless!

网易江苏省苏州市网友 ip:49.75.*.*:

What can I say…

rinitianchao0 [网易广西南宁市网友]:

Sigh!

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  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    I used to go night diving, and I learned that the eels developed a very sneaky trick. They follow divers around, waiting for them to shine their lights on fish they wanted to see. The fish would be stunned by the bright light and stop moving. Then the eel would swoop in and tear the fish apart.

    These people remind me of those eels.

    • Ivan Teo

      The Chinese remind me of red belly piranhas in the Amazon river. Anything that swim in front, eat it.

  • David S.

    I don’t know… I suppose they could have left the doves to be picked by feral cats.

    The scumbags of that story are probably those who buy dozens of industrial farm birds in order to take a bunch of pictures. Good illustration of why Chinese cities are pigeons-free though.

    • don mario

      yea.. there is 2 points here.

      1.chinese just have no respect for nature.
      and they are so classless that they have to eat ANYTHING alive. we’ve all seen the disturbing lack of wildlife in china. its grim.

      2. they have become rich at such a fast rate that they haven’t developed enough sense to go along with it. its a truly sad show of humanity.

      • mwanafa

        I am having a difficulty choosing one for lunch!

      • Germandude

        “we’ve all seen the disturbing lack of wildlife in china. its grim.”

        So true. This is something I was thinking about when travelling through the country. Absolutely no wildlife here.
        I was on a hiking trip with some friends and there was one snake that we came across. My friend having a phobia for snakes freaked out. A guy from a local village starts laughing and takes a stick to smash the snake. Wraps it up and goes away. He seemed to be happy, having found dinner…

        • Guest23

          It’s pretty much culture, most countries that have a background of religions with Kosher foods pretty much are following the norm on what to eat, as for China lots of jokes about the exotic cuisine that would make France, Japan, and India combined pale in comparison with the food culture there.

          I’m not sure about how the Ministry of Health informs the public about some of the dangers of these pigeons, they are vectors of diseases.

        • don mario

          hahhahaa!

        • Sum_ting_wong_again

          Have you seen them drinking snake blood? A live snake, they just chop its head off and suck out the blood which dribbles down their faces. Putrid lot.

  • the ace of books

    This is messed-up-but-understandable at every level:

    1) “set free” the pigeons! Oh yes. Take farmed birds (farmed dumb birds – pigeons aren’t known for their brains), use ‘em for a photoshoot, and then ~:*set them freeee*:~ , uh-huh, yes. That’ll give ‘em a life expectancy of about two days – about three days less than they’d have if you “set them free” in the wild.

    2) looting the pigeons. These folks are following in a long and glorious tradition of “look, free stuff has been scattered about! I must grab some of it for myself!” See also: the article about the guy who dropped his year’s wages (17k), the articles about truck spills and accidetns where the same happens. No surprise there.

    3) the entitlement behind both these mindsets. “these are not live creatures, they are props useful for 4 hours of my life!” “these are delicious food objects that no one is using, let us collect them!” it’s like the concept of “no, you shouldn’t” is for other people – The Glorious Me can do whatever The Glorious I wants. (Note also the delightful little undertone of not-picking-up-my-trash in the first situation – “it’s too much trouble to catch these pigeons and bring ‘em back – surely they will be okay if we just leave them here!”)

    In other news, does anyone know where i can buy some rose-colored glasses? I’m getting sick of these jade ones.

    • David

      Hmmm no, but how about a some single malt scotch colored glasses? : )

      • the ace of books

        Scotch notsomuch, but I’ll take if you have a nice akvavit :]

        • David

          lol OMG I have not had Akvavit in a decade. I had a Norwegian friend who loved it too much (and wanted everybody else to love it), ice cold of course.

  • Stefan Xu

    If you haven’t noticed already, there are no birds in Chinese cities, you can’t find those hordes of pigeons on squares you’ll find in the west. But then again have anyone seen any birds in cities in the other Asian countries?

    Surely every country have both bad and good people. At chinaSMACK you most of the time only get to see the news and stories that have been cherry picked because they are more interesting to discuss about in the eyes of a foreigner, I know. China’s improving big time every year and I predict these kind of stories will be more sparse in about 10 years time and the stories you’ll find on chinaSMACK by then will be more similar to what you can read on koreaBANG or japanCRUSH.

    Keep in mind that China is as big as USA, South America, Russia, and European Union combined. If you combine all the bad news all those regions have and combine them, have would that look like?

    So I would say that on a per capita level China isn’t as bad as it may look like.

    • mr.wiener

      They are the most talked about stories on the Chinese web, foreigners prejudices and cherry picking aren’t a factor here.
      Sorry to disappoint you.

      • Stefan Xu

        I know, Chinese themselves are very pessimistic.

        • mr.wiener

          Amazingly so.

        • Riddler

          Aside from military illusions no?

    • December Rain

      “Keep in mind that China is as big as USA, South America, Russia, and European Union combined. If you combine all the bad news all those regions have and combine them, have would that look like?”

      Also keep in mind that China is 20% of the world’s population.

    • mwanafa

      ” as big as… combined”. I am sure you mean population, but not land area, China is slightly Bigger than USA.

      • Stefan Xu

        People usually count a country’s size by population. That’s the most important.

      • DavidisDawei

        The Area of the USA is slightly larger than China if you include Alaska.

        • mwanafa

          Yeah, I highlighted Bigger on purpose.

    • SonofSpermcube

      The only birds in Chinese cities are the ones that are too much trouble to eat…either too small, or too mean.

    • don mario

      cross the straight and you will find birds a plenty. they make nests in the highstreet, there are loads of little ones. i’ve even saw an eagle in shilin. plenty of animals have been hunted to extinction in taiwan and rare animals such as the pangolin are still killed and ate but i have seen way more wildlife in taiwan than china. honestly, all i ever saw in china were rats and stray dogs…and one guy in the market showed me some tiger bones that were probably fake.

  • CCCP

    When I took my gf home this summer, she was really surprized by the amount of pidgeons we have walking around the place, she even chased some of the fatter ones saying we should catch them and cook them, but my mom discouraged her by mentioning that they’re like rats over here eating all sorts of garbage on the streets, so you don’t know what diseases you may get from eating them.

    In any case, I’ve eaten grilled pidgeon in Xiamen and pidgeon soup in Shenzhen, and I must say they do taste pretty good, so as long as they’re raised specifically for consumption I don’t see any problem with eating them.

    • markus peg

      You make your own girlfriend sound like an uneducated farm girl.
      Many Chinese go overseas and catch the local wildlife to be eaten, one big example that comes to mind was in Africa where many would Chinese would catch turtles/tortoise which are illegal to catch and eat. They even knew it was illegal and tried to hide them during a police search. They are endangered ffs

      Local wildlife seems like a free meal to them, thank goodness Pandas are protected as i bet they taste nice as bone soup and would all be eaten by now…..

      • don mario

        well you must of seen what they are doing to the non-panda bears. pandas are fucking lucky i say.

      • CCCP

        Well, she probably just missed Chinese food and wanted some for a change , since she didn’t like our food much (but I can understand since I also like Chinese food more than any other food). But in any case, she wasn’t 100% serious about it, and actually there’s nothing in our law that says you can’t catch and eat pidgeons, or stray dogs and cats for that matter. However, nobody does it, ethics aside, simply from a practical perspective you never know what diseases those animals living in a megapolis may have. Back in my grandpa’s village, which is ecologically clean (you can even drink water directly from the river), we eat the various wildlife from the surrounding forests, such as birds, boars, bears, rabbits and even beavers.

    • don mario

      what a catch. we used to eat pidgeon in the west too, and some still do. so there is nothing really strange about eating pidgeon. just helping yourself to the local wildlife as if its a buffet table tho is a bit messed up. if we all did that then the whole world would be like china, it wouldnt have any wildlife.

      • Germandude

        Pidgeons: The rats of the sky…

        • Sum_ting_wong_again

          Which country would get Scum of the Earth title you reckon? :-)

          • Germandude

            A country in the ME if you ask me.

          • Sum_ting_wong_again

            FE I’d say.

          • Germandude

            Everybody is entitled to their opinion.

          • Sum_ting_wong_again

            Of course of course.

    • lonetrey / Dan

      o___o

      Now I have this mental image of my chinese female friends chasing around pigeons in NYC…. I laughed a little.

  • Powerlurker

    My wife went to college in Hefei and both her and her (rather poor) dad found the city disappointingly poor and rural in character in spite of being a provincial capital.

  • nqk123

    it’s not a big deal. I don’t think dove are on the endanger species list. Just my opinion though

    • December Rain

      I agree. Eating doves may seem cruel and uncivilized from a Western point of view, but it’s really no worse than eating poultry, if you really think about it.

      • mr.wiener

        The lack of consumption of pigeons in the west is mainly down to a consumer culture that values convenience over flavor. Month old fat pullets need far less de-boning than bony doves. Classical western lit contains many references to pigeon pie. The French probably still eat dove as they are very proud of their traditional food culture.

        • Powerlurker

          Plenty of people in the US hunt and eat doves.

        • nqk123

          cities pigeons are known for carrying diseases.

      • Ami

        “cruel and uncivilzed” lo not all. I know people get sick at the thought of eating dogs or something but I’ve never heard of someone directly complain about pigeons getting munched on?

    • whuddyasack

      I suppose the problem is with the snatching up of doves about to be released, but I sort of feel this is much the same as hunting wild boar and deer.

      Indeed, eating doves is the same as eating game, such as pigeon, quail, and pheasant. Nothing cruel about that. An American friend living in the woods shot and ate moose, bison, coyotes and black bears. Some Americans I know ate a giant type of rat, known as a nutria. Must have picked up the habit from South America. Others eat possum pie. Yum.

      I present you with some fantastic looking nutria dishes. Bon Appétit.

      • Kai

        I have to laugh at that last picture, bikini babe and all. That’s kinda badass in a “fuck yeah, I killed these, *STRUT*” sort of way.

        I think the repeated one is just dough though.

        • whuddyasack

          Yeah, it’s awesome isn’t it?

          Man: “Hey babe, look what I’ve got for dinner?”
          Woman: “Rat? Hmmm… awesome. You’re so awesome.”

          Hahaha, and yeah, the repeated one is just dough. :-)

    • Guang Xiang

      I’m more worried about the diseases they may carry

    • 5,000 years of uncivilization

      Neither are humans… maybe they should be eaten too.

  • Guest23

    I”m a bit concerned with the health issues with eating these doves/pigeons, I recall some reports about avian flu infections with some poor families cooking up captured birds years ago.

    • 5,000 years of uncivilization

      Obviously, people who do this sort of thing have bird brains. I wouldn’t be terribly upset if they got sick from eating those birds.

      • Guest23

        I can sympathize with poverty and the very low minimum wage in China, but do they inform everyone of these infections though? They culled thousands of poultry during April, not so sure about food safety in China with it’s reputation.

    • Kai

      I don’t think it’s usually that (eating captured birds). I think it’s usually just poor handling of poultry by farmers and wet markets because it is still widely un- or poorly regulated.

      • Guest23

        Nah, I read it as some wild birds that were caught by poor families were infected with the flu, they cook and eaten them, then they started getting sick, a sad story with desperation.

        • Kai

          Oh, no, I do vague remember a story like that. My comment was more about how I think avian flu usually spreads. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

          • Guest23

            I get it, just clarifying what I’ve read, some new isolated cases of it resurfacing in Taiwan though, really need drastic changes on the food preparation, cleanliness, supply, heck everything when it comes to food.

  • markus peg

    They will always remember that wedding photo of being the butchering of 100 doves 30 seconds later

    • Kai

      Heh, I don’t think the looters butchered them right then and there. Probably whisked them home before snapping their necks. I still remember the first time I witnessed the neck-snapping and then de-feathering of a chicken at a wet market in China. Suffice to say, I didn’t grow up on a farm and was desensitized to such a thing.

      • DavidisDawei

        Life in China…
        I took this photo in a small village in the hills of South Central China. This guy cut the throat, let it jump around for a while. Photo shows him burning the remaining feathers away, note the other birds eagerly picking away at its remains.

        • Kai

          Man, those chickens are fucked up, eating their own.

          The de-feathering I’ve seen was dipping the bird in scalding water and then plucking out all the feathers. I’m not sure I understand the mechanics of de-feathering with fire. I forgot how the blood is drained in wet markets here, only the neck snapping and de-feathering.

          • DavidisDawei

            My first time in a Chinese supermarket was an experience I’ll never forget. And not because of the little kids, pointing at me and yelling in horror “foreigner”.

            My friends (locals) asked me what I wanted for dinner and they gave me several options and I answered “Chicken is fine”…Good thing I didn’t pick something larger…haha

            We walked over to a the counter behind was a small room holding a variety of live animals. The attendant weighed a live chicken, haggled over something and then slit its throat, threw it into a bucket where it jumped around for a few minutes as it bled out. We went and finished our shopping and returned a while later and they had de-feathered, cleaned and packaged the chicken to take home.

          • moop

            the fire is an easier way to get rid of the finer feathers, at least that is how we do it with doves when we hunt in the southeastern US, i assume its the same with chicken

          • Guest23

            Birds do cannibalism, shocking fact but it’s why most poultry farmers do debeaking to prevent these birds from doing serious injury.

          • Kai

            Wow, interesting, didn’t know these things

            @disqus_Yu9CRCs2Uz:disqus also.

  • connie

    With all the negative publicity China is getting at this time from its handling of aid to the Philippines, chinaSMACK can still be relied upon to find more Chinese “dirty laundry” to expose.

  • Claude

    An unpleasant reminder why I stopped visiting the site. Those people are in a feeding frenzy.

  • mr.wiener

    Beautiful birds.
    nom nom nom.

    • Probotector

      Sounds like you’re eating a girl out.

      • mr.wiener

        Insert cunning linguist joke here.

        • DavidisDawei

          OK – here goes…
          Wiener likes to masticate sausage and swallow.
          (maybe with a pint of Guinness?)

  • Riddler

    Well. After reading that they eat human babies, use them for medicine also, this story is just another day in china.

    • mr.wiener

      Could you supply that link?

      • ex-expat
        • Riddler

          To the person who down voted ex-pat’s provision of that link: Did you down vote him for exposing the action or, does the actual news make you that sick that only a down vote would suffice? In that case, down vote away on my links below.

          But i doubt it. You are probably pissed this is being discussed and with evidence.

          • Kai

            This topic was covered on koreaBANG:

            http://www.koreabang.com/2013/stories/increase-on-human-flesh-capsules-smuggled-into-korea.html

            http://www.koreabang.com/2012/stories/customs-seize-pills-containing-dead-baby-powder-netizens-react.html

            The link ex-expat provided all reference the same Korean media sources, news articles reporting information from the Korean Customs Service and an older controversial SBS documentary that was scrutinized for how legitimate it actually was. In other words, none of the English language reports about this have any independent investigation behind them. They all cite the same sources, sources that have been called into question.

            Overall, there are certain details that are accepted and others that are questioned as being fabricated and sensationalized without actual evidence, and all we have are the words of those claiming them. Denials from Chinese sources are likewise seen as unreliable.

            A lot of Chinese people are however familiar with the fact that there are indeed an extremely small minority of people who subscribe to such folk medicine. There is no point in denying that though there is a point in being indignant about people running around spamming “Chinese people eat babies!”

            Given that the practice is extremely taboo in mainstream Chinese society and thus underground, it is very difficult to get scientifically verifiable facts. One theory advanced is that the pills smuggled into Korea contain human placenta because the ingestion of placenta is historically more common than the ingestion of actual fetuses. As I understand it, the assumption that they were made from specifically “human fetuses” was based not on information from the Korean Customs Service but assumed from the previous SBS documentary which claimed they were but provided no actual verifiable evidence.

            This is important because while it is possible for forensics to determine if a powder contains human remains (DNA) and how many different types of DNA, it isn’t so easy to determine if the DNA came from a fetus or a placenta after that much processing and degradation. This is a major reason why the argument that the characterization of “fetus” or “baby” is sensationalism. The idea of “aborted babies/fetuses” is also called into question because of how it is linked to popular narratives critical of China’s One-Child Policy and incidents of forced abortion. In other words, there is ample suspicion of gross sensationalism.

            There hasn’t been any real follow-up investigating on this issue by Korean authorities or media or Western media either, likely because it isn’t some sort of statistically meaningful trend that affects most of society, and people will believe or disbelieve it based on their prejudices. I personally wish Western media sources would do and publish their own independent investigation, instead of reliably referencing the same internet rumors and hoaxes that have been seen throughout the years to reinforce knee-jerk disgust and prejudices.

            1. No need to deny that such capsules exist and they include human DNA.
            2. No need to deny that such capsules went into Korea from China.
            3. No need to deny that ethnic Chinese people sold them and Korean people purchased and consumed them.
            4. Do question what exactly is inside those capsules and how it is determined to be one thing or another, and if there is a difference between placenta and fetus.
            5. Do question what aspects of the Korean media source material for this issue are verifiable facts, what may be unverifiable hearsay, and what may be outright sensationalism.

      • Riddler

        Just a moment.

        • ex-expat

          i got it

          • Riddler

            Thanks. Not even joking here. This is grim shit.

          • ex-expat

            Yeah it’s no joke in the top ten of the worst things I have seen…tbh not much surprises me anymore after living there though.

          • Riddler

            Yup. Now I await the onslaught for posting the links and initial comment.

      • mwanafa

        Heading: Chinese people speak Mandarin
        Riddler: After reading that they speak Mandarin, Cantonese, this is just another day in China.
        mr. wiener: Could you supply that link?

      • Riddler
        • Kai

          I think the pictures you posted were from a performance art piece by Zhu Yu, which is mentioned in the links you posted so I’m not sure why you posted them without context.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhu_Yu_(artist)

          Interestingly, he claims he ate an actual baby but the problem here is the presentation of him and his performance art piece as some sort of average Chinese person chowing down as if cannibalism was nothing.

          Here’s one of the top results for “fetus soup in china” on Google: http://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-chinese-fetus-soup.2203/

          In it contains a number of other links to more sources and reading on this subject.

          If anyone feels there are details in any of these reports that bear more discussion, please bring them up and we can investigate them further. In general, reports and accusations like these are full of hearsay, rumors, and false information lacking verifiable sources…with a slathering of prejudice applied. I want to believe most people can see this.

      • Riddler

        I’ve spoken to many, many people in China about this. I’m in the medical field and chinese colleagues who confirm that although it isn’t widespread, it is an open secret that eating foetus in china exists. The medical use of foetus is openly admitted as being used in pill form with a variety of health benefits.

      • Riddler

        Do these links suffice or should i keep digging for more?

        • mr.wiener

          Actually those pictures are from some idjit Chinese performance artist that ate a pickled fetus for a performance piece. It surfaced in a Malaysian newspaper last year and was quickly disproved.
          I’ll read the rest tomorrow, I just fed 30 people a thanksgiving turkey [pre-thanksgiving] and have a kitchen full of dishes to clean. I’ll eat crow tomorrow.
          Goodnight all.

          • David

            Wow, I am impressed, I am not doing it till next weekend.

          • Kai

            Australians celebrate Thanksgiving?

          • Germandude

            That would be called Thanksdrinking.

  • Riddler

    Chinese seem to eat only pig. And there are a few who like human babies,

  • Probotector

    Swan Lake in Hefei has no swans.

    • Riddler

      I wonder why?

    • mwanafa

      There are less than 50 wild tigers left in the whole of China.

  • Probotector

    How do you ‘snatch up’ birds in flight? Not easy to do, especially if this was just done on impulse. Was there a bunch of people with their special pigeon catching equipment conveniently to hand? A very brief story for CS. More information needed.

  • Ivan Teo

    And money.

  • http://yoursexycousinrex.tumblr.com/ Your Sexy Cousin Rex

    Song of the article:

    • YourSupremeCommander

      BK or Philly?

  • SonofSpermcube

    As though government is not an element of society.

    • Elijah

      You’re both right, but there continues to more and more glimmers of hope I think. The real question is whether these glimmers pan out before some tragic happens (housing bubble, wealth-disparity, mass demonstrations, poor hygiene, toxic environment or border disputes).

      Government needs to be dismantled and rebuilt, but that needs to start with the ordinary person consciously making a choice to self-educate and better themselves.

      Same in all countries to a varying extent.

  • SonofSpermcube

    Hefei is one of the dreariest cities I’ve ever visited. Everyone I spoke to there seemed pissed off about something. I probably would be, too, if I lived in Hefei.

    • Powerlurker

      My father-in-law is a fairly poor laborer from Wuhan and even he was disappointed by the idea of sending his daughter to live in a place as dreary and poor as Hefei for four years to go to college.

      • SonofSpermcube

        Hefei is also the only place I’ve actually witnessed, with absolute certainty, a restaurant using gutter oil.

        My wife is from (the vicinity of) Wuhu, right next to Hefei, and it’s like night-and-day better. It’s not significantly richer or poorer, but somehow it manages to suck way less. If I found a good job there I’d move there, no hesitation.

      • SonofSpermcube

        What’s weird is Wuhu, right next to it, is about equally poor and doesn’t suck nearly as bad.

  • al

    This is just laughable.. when i saw the title.. i immediately started saying please don’t tell me they are catching them… Chinese probably don’t know it but many Americans here are jokingly afraid of Chinese neighbors because the community lakes here are full of ducks…

  • Cauffiel

    Doves are stupid.

    • the ace of books

      Excatly. Doves and pigeons are some of the dumbest birds. Why are such stupid animals the christian symbol for peace?

      • Guest23

        Found it here
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_dove#The_dove_and_olive_branch

        You can say it’s because of the symbolism of the color, white as in the light of a new dawn for mankind, another opinion is because they are non-predatory birds, you wound’t want a Hawk to be a symbol of peace, pretty much why you have Peace Doves against War Hawks.

  • TheSOP

    Empathy needs a big boost, it is sorely lacking.

  • don mario

    i believe it, why not? its only meat to them, which they believe carrys a health benefit. they also eat DONKEY DICK did you know about that? dead baby thats just gonna go in the trash anyway isn’t that much worse than a huge donkey DICK.

    its not much worse than chicken ASS or half formed ‘feather egg’ either. or ‘boy piss soaked eggs’ or how about freshly skinned alive kidnapped neighbours dog? seriously, a soup that has had an aborted baby sitting in it is only a couple notches below those at best.

    • Mony Xie

      Not only donkey dick, they eat all kinds of dicks…

      • Sum_ting_wong_again

        Leave my nuts alone.

  • don mario

    we eat lamb, we used to eat pigeon and french eat frogs. so actually its not funny.

  • Hang Em Man

    In China, if it moves,,, it will be very soon be cooked and eaten.

    • Sum_ting_wong_again

      Anything with legs except a table, anything with wings except a plane. That’s what they actually say.

  • biggj

    New on DVD and Bluray and VHS.

    “Dove Eaters”

    Plot: When the Chinese eat doves to near extinction only one man can stop the madness…..His name is Dove White (Chow Yun Fat). He must stop the 3 evil officials from passing a law making dove eating mandatory. There will be gun fights, car chases and of course slow motion scenes with white does flying in the back ground while Dove White does some cool ass shit.

    Directed by John Wu

    • Germandude

      Hey biggj. Good to see you back. I was worrying you were banned for sth!?
      How are you doing?

      • biggj

        Lol, No I wasn’t banned or anything. Just been busy with some other shit. I kind of just lost interest in the site, but it’s a really cold day with nothing to do so I thought I would check out some of the stories I missed.

    • linette lee

      hahha..biggj. you are so funny. I miss you.

  • 5,000 years of uncivilization

    Is it the same there in Taiwan? I’d agree but i’ve seen most Chinese eat cheap, filthy, street food in order to save money. Therefore i believe food would come in second on the list after money.

    • don mario

      they love food in taiwan and still eat some crazy things like snake and frog soup but they have evolved past eating dog and gross things like that at least.

      • 5,000 years of uncivilization

        Eating snakes and frogs is still as gross as eating dogs, in my opinion. With evolution comes civilization and education but not always the same speed in some places.

        • Kai

          I think there’s a bit of a problem with equating “civilization” and “education” with what animals are eaten. There’s really little objective reason for why one animal is sacred versus another as a source of protein.

          *points at the various arguments on any cS post involving dogs being eaten*

          • 5,000 years of uncivilization

            “I have no doubt that it is a part of the destiny of the human race, in its gradual improvement, to leave off eating animals.” – Henry David Thoreau. Seems he is talking about the evolution of civilization to me. I’m sure Einstein and Gandhi would agree.

          • Kai

            I’m sure there’s also a ton of other well-respected intelligent people who eat or ate animals.

            If human society can evolve to a point where the consumption of animal protein is no longer desirable, yay for the animals. Until then, I still think it’s a bit of a problem equating “civilization” and “education” with what animals are eaten and using that as a premise to judge other people for eating animal meats we simply weren’t socialized into eating but would if we came into this world in their mother’s womb.

        • mr.wiener

          Frogs are quite tasty.
          @disqus_ylFkMMXaEa:disqus. We still have people in the south of Taiwan who like “Shiung rou” as well as NGOs that hunt down their illegal puppy mills.

          • Kai

            Not a fan of frogs or bullfrogs. Depends on which and how they’re prepared, they’re kinda like a cross between chicken and fish though. I’ve had snake once. Again, the meat is fine by itself, it’s just hard to get past it in our heads and if the meat has some sort of identifiable shape to it.

            I used to hate seafood (still not a fan) as a child so my mom would sometimes try to trick me into eating fish (for my own nutritional good). Once she mixed up the fish meat in porridge. As I was eating it unawares, she asked me if I liked the porridge.

            *shakes fist*

          • don mario

            http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_05tYDPFd2NA/SISnaP8KmoI/AAAAAAAAAqg/lI_UZ02CYYI/s400/taiwan%2Bfrog%2Bsoup.JPG

            hows this preperation? lol. i couldnt eat it.. but the chinese frog meat i tried wasn’t bad.

          • Kai

            Yeah, I wouldn’t be able to handle that. I think the only meat in an identifiable shape I can handle is poultry!

          • 5,000 years of uncivilization

            A gay coworker once told me that fecal matter is quite tasty too.

          • mr.wiener

            Thank you for sharing.

          • don mario

            oh sick, yea i think my gf said there is still some people who eat them.. but its not the same as china where you can just go to guangzhou and stroll into a golden retriver restaurant.. or where someone is going to kidnap your dog and eat it because he was hungry.

        • don mario

          well they have a lot of vegetarian restaurants too. much more than i have seen in the west actually. in general they are quite health concious with eating well.. still not civilised?

          they eat the organs too, which we generally don’t in the west. i think that kind of backwards to waste those parts of an animal just because it seems gross or something.. they taste pretty good… if bbq’d lol/

          • 5,000 years of uncivilization

            Qingdao only has 7 million people but no vegetarian restaurants and the men always smoke in Chinese restaurants so there aren’t many choices compared to the west. It somehow seems barbaric that millions of animals are slaughtered to be eaten when it isn’t necessary.

          • don mario

            lol that sucks. the vegetarian restaurants in taiwan are usually buddhist… so you can see the great progress and development the mainland made by wiping out its local religion and having the cultural revolution.

          • 5,000 years of uncivilization

            Oh, yes… the great progress of the cultural revolution. Now, if i don’t want to dine on dead animals in a smoke-filled Chinese restaurant, i have to eat at an American fast-food joint. I shouldn’t complain as Qingdao now has a lot of Yum Foods locations. You’ve got it much better there in Taiwan until there’s an earthquake or typhoon. Good luck.

          • William_C_Diaz

            You cant get a vegetarian meal, but at least you can get a decent beer!

            Have a great day!

  • Sum_ting_wong_again

    Nothing wrong with eating doves. But it was done in a sadistic fashion. “hey you’re freeeeeee!” Next thing your getting de-feathered.

  • TheSOP

    You need to be on a watch list of one kind or another.

  • Ami

    thats an extremely incorrect simplification of what was said.

  • Ami

    Beautifully put!!

  • Kai

    Lamb is interesting. I’d say it is more popular in China than the West, but maybe it depends on which Western countries. I think the meat itself is definitely more divisive than beef, chicken, or pork with some people loving the gamey flavor while others hate it.

    There’s definitely a broader spectrum of animal meats available in China but I’d say pork, chicken, beef, fish/seafood are far more popularly consumed than the more exotic meats like dog, snake, frog, turtles, etc. The consumption of these meats has a lot of historical background to them, some based in folk medicine notions of how they may affect the body’s health and others based on how extended periods of starvation or famine introduced new animals into the realm of the “acceptable” out of necessity.

    • linette lee

      Really? Lots of Chinese love lamb chop. It’s quite popular. They love frogs and dove also. Those meats are a bit more expensive but the Chinese lovvvvvvvvve them. Actually hk restaurants serve them and not too rare at all and not too expensive. Lamb chops, frog claypot rice, frog congee, roasted dove. Chicken and pig are more common to eat for the chinese because it’s cheaper. Steak are also more expensive. But most Chinese will say lamb chop, roasted dove, steak, and claypot frog dishes taste better and bit more expensive. Seafood are better tasting than chicken and pig.
      田雞煲仔飯, 紅燒乳鴿, 羊排

      http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cRcARJc_kO8/THq6uRwAhhI/AAAAAAAAS6A/duRO5JcDaU8/s1600/IMG_2091.JPG

      http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/31ITZ7CDhpVv0_idGb18fQ/l.jpg

      http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2007/10/03/EM0809_Pan_Roasted_Squab_lg.jpg

      • Kai

        I’m confused, what are you asking “Really?” in response to?

    • linette lee

      put chicken, pig, frog, lamb, and dove dishes in front of the chinese in a Chinese restaurant and watch. They will grab dove, frog, and lamb dishes before touching chicken and pig dishes.

      • Kai

        Maybe for those who consider them more expensive delicacies but chicken and pig are still more popularly consumed, as in Chinese people eat more of that meat than the others.

        You do understand the definition of “popularly” being used here, right?

  • Kai

    You mean like keeping yourself young by bathing in a tub of virgins’ blood?

  • Kai

    LoL, aw geez, you’re terrible. This is getting into dead baby jokes territory…

  • diverdude7

    mmmm,,,, what to have for dinner tonight? hmmm… wow,, some DovBabyPandTigerRou sounds tasty!
    White Wedding Dove inside Human Baby Fetus inside Panda Belly inside Tiger Steak. damn ,, that’s a Dish !

    * best if served with African Elephant Ivory kuaizi…..

  • YourSupremeCommander

    Leave the Chinese alone, they were catching them to serve the white guy!

    • Cauffiel

      Consuming the flesh of doves is how we keep our hoarish glow. :-D

  • Fibble_Squibble

    China Unplugged?

  • linette lee

    I am not saying chinese don’t eat chicken and pig. I am saying what they considered tastier. They find frog meat tasty. Westerner don’t find frog or dove tasty or will even touch it. And I don’t know why dove and frogs are more expensive than chicken and pig. Isn’t it very easy to breed them in food farm. They multiply quickly and they don’t eat much unlike cows and pigs. Don’t pigs eat a lot? lol.
    http://www.streetdirectory.com/stock_images/travel/simg_show/11724839140819/1/jurong_frog_farm/

  • ptptp

    Are you sure the people in the pictures are peasants? From their dress, I couldn’t say what class they are from but you may see something that I don’t.

  • MFawful

    I’m really impressed that they were able to catch these birds by hand!

  • December Rain

    Why should an overpopulated country have immigration?

  • Minister Rutherford

    Points out the class disparity in China.

  • Kai
  • hailexiao

    Less fat =/= healthier. Fattier foods are more satiating, so you need to eat less to feel full. But yes, Chinese people on average enjoy a wider variety of meat than westerners and have more appetite for gamier flavors.

  • SimpsonsGoldenAge

    This is nothing to do with eating meat, it’s to do wit the absolute patheticness of people seeing some doves and immediately thinking “oh let’s catch them and eat them for dinner” and this happening in a major city as well. Really reflects badly upon Chinese people, REALLY badly.

  • Vernon Alarcon

    pigeons are flying rats that defecate everywhere an’ sheeit….HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all !!!

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