Asiana Airlines San Francisco Flight 214 Crash, Chinese Reactions

Asian Airlines Flight 214 crash at San Francisco International Airport.

Currently the #1 post on leading Chinese microblogging service and social network Sina Weibo, with over 170k reshares and 33k comments…

From Sina Weibo:

@央视新闻: #Boeing 777 Airplane Crash# Please light a candle for them. Yesterday, they may have been talking and laughing on their way to the United States, with their mother’s exhortations, father’s best-wishes, and the excited enthusiasm that only girls in their prime have; Today, they instead fell from the sky in a frightening disaster, their lives not unable to descend as steadily as they took off. This is not only a sad day for the aviation industry, it is also a heartbreaking day for two families. Separated by the vast ocean, unable to say goodbye. To the young girls who died in San Francisco, rest in peace!

A lit candle with flame.

The overwhelming majority of the comments to the above post are Chinese netizens posting candle emoticons [蜡烛] and expressions of condolences.

The hashtag included in the above post is also currently the #3 trending hashtag on Sina Weibo, surpassed by a fight between passengers and airline personnel at Shanghai’s Hongqiao Airport, and the recently popular movie Tiny Times (recently mentioned on chinaSMACK here)…

From Sina Weibo:

#Boeing 777 Airplane Crash#

Korean media say the pilot involved in the Asiana Airlines passenger plane accident was in training. The Asiana Airlines weibo has posted an apology for the plane crash. Early morning on the 7th Beijing Time, the tail of a Boeing 777 passenger plane broke off while landing at San Francisco International Airport. Microbloggers on the plane live broadcasted the entire experience. According to the victims list made public by @Asiana Airlines, two middle school students Wang Linjia and Ye Mengyuan were confirmed as having perished. A moment of silence!

Asian Airlines Flight 214 crash at San Francisco International Airport.

Asian Airlines Flight 214 crash at San Francisco International Airport.

With over 3.1 million views on popular Chinese video sharing website Youku since it was uploaded yesterday…

From Youku:

Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 Rollover Crash at San Francisco Airport

Saturday morning, an Asiana Airline Flight 214 Boeing 777 passenger plane that departed from Seoul and landed at San Francisco International Airport’s #28 runway suddenly crashed and rolled over on its side, the entire plane filled with thick smoke. Casualties are currently unknown.

Comments from Youku:

顺英:

Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 Passenger Plane Crash Had 141 Chinese People. Korea’s Asiana Airlines Flight 213 crashed while landing at America’s San Francisco International Airport, its tail section breaking off, and igniting into flames. At present, at least 2 people have died and 61 are injured. According to China’s consulate in San Francisco’s preliminary confirmations, there were 141 Chinese citizens on the crashed plane, including 34 high school students and 1 teacher.

夏志宇19910724:

A moment of silence.

麦兜占:

Why were most of them Chinese, and Chinese students too? I don’t get it.

天边浮云朵朵: (responding to above)

The students were going to a summer camp in America, departed from Hong Kong and transferred in Korea.

orzorzgod: (responding to above)

It was from Shanghai to Seoul to San Francisco.

爱你的hui: (responding to above)

Because the point of departure was Shanghai, did you not listen?

老龚:

This seems to be the first time there has been an accident with the 777, right?

Tanya.jty: (responding to above)

Previously British Airways also crashed a 777-200, because of a fuel-oil heat exchanger problem. It was the same, descended to the start of the runway, lost speed, and fell.

Asian Airlines Flight 214 crash at San Francisco International Airport.

Currently featured on the front page of Youku, with over 1.1 million views since being uploaded this morning (~9 hours ago) ago…

From Youku:

Footage of Moment of Korean Passenger Plane Crash in America Exposed

The plane crash has caused 2 deaths and 182 injured with over 40 of them seriously injured. Receiving many of the heavily injured, San Francisco General Hospital indicated that most injured suffered injuries to their abdomen, spinal column fractures, with two of the injured being paralyzed as a result, as well as a lot of head injuries and various kinds of bone injuries. Two of the injured suffered skin loss due to friction with the road, suggesting that they may have been dragged, but the two both survived. Doctors also pointed out that there are still 15 to 16 people still unconscious.

From Youku:

Asiana Airlines Crash Air-Ground Dialogue Recording

5:11am on the 7th Beijing Time, American Boeing 787 Airplane electrical engineer @ROY G. Yang posted the recording of the air-ground dialogue with the Asian Airlines Boeing 777 plane that crashed. The recording shows that upon learning of the plane’s emergency, the air traffic controller dispatched various vehicles to prepare to respond, with everyone rushing to the scene.

Comments from Youku:

食物链最底层:

Korea’s Dong-a Ilbo said while reporting the Asiana Airlines plane crash: “The latest news is that it was 2 Chinese people and not Korean people who died in the accident, thankfully.”

mixture卍: (responding to above)

Bangzi being stupid cunts is nothing new…

阿布传说: (responding to above)

Too inhuman!!

其实神也是人耶: (responding to above)

This just shows China’s position in the world. Even small countries don’t respect you.

出来说道:

This pilot only had 43 hours with the Boeing 777… a novice.

韩家H公子:

I only heard before that Korean pilots are unreliable, but now I know, there TM isn’t a reliable person in the entire Korean airline industry.

诛★断水流:

…yet another additional 2 bachelors.

Kroda:

Our country’s planes are safer, this kind of incident hasn’t happened.

小小木屋: (responding to above)

Forgotten the Yichun plane crash?

┌頸衔主縯の糖糖:

Even the recordings at the time have been made public, if only our high-speed railway ministry could be like this instead of burying

Also currently featured at the top of the Youku homepage is this news clip uploaded around noon today (currently 230k views)…

From Youku:

Doctor Says One Chinese Girl Died on the Spot From Not Wearing Her Seat Belt

Reuters report, local officials claimed on Sunday that an ambulance rushing to the Asiana Airlines crash site to help yesterday may have ran over one of the Chinese girls who died. One of the girl victim’s bodies had bruises caused by being run over, and the local coroner is currently conducting an autopsy to determine the girl’s cause of death.

“>A CCTV journalist interviewed medical personnel, with the doctor saying that as the plane descended, one of the Chinese girls that died was not wearing her seat belt and died immediately; The other was sent to the hospital with a weak pulse, where doctors operated on her but she ultimately died from the severity of her injuries.

Comments from Youku:

东京有把火:

Why wasn’t she wearing her seat belt~!!!!

GG逗妇乳: (responding to above)

Chinese-style passenger behavior. To be honest, I also normally don’t fasten my seat belt.

o广东人o:

Not wearing seat belts is a Chinese characteristic.

嘻哈人生、: (responding to above)

There are always people in every country who don’t fasten their seat belts, what are you talking about “characteristic”. Nonsense! You’re clearly trying to sow dissension [cause trouble, get people to argue]!

hncnzm: (responding to above)

Many foreigners also don’t wear their seat belts, how did it become a Chinese characteristic? Whether one buckles or not is a matter of the individual.

ZhangyXP: (responding to above)

Go to North America and see. It’s a Chinese characteristic, no doubt.

hncnzm: (responding to above)

There were over 140 people on there and only she wasn’t wearing her seat belt, how can this not be a matter of an individual? Even if you don’t buckle up, it is still a problem with you as a person, so how can this become a national characteristic? The only thing is that our countrymen’s awareness of safety falls short of those of developed nations.

JOELEE333:

Chinese people once again died due to not complying with social order/rules.

血红连天舞

This shows that one shouldn’t unbuckle their seatbelt before reaching the terminal.

liangmingabc:

I came to read the comments~ After reading the comments, I have one conclusion that I guarantee won’t offend anyone. That would be that the girl did wear her seatbelt but the quality of bangzi airplane seat belts is too poor, and ripped under the stress, resulting in the girl’s death.

vnbmkjuuirew:

An ambulance may have ran over one of the Chinese girl victims. The Americans sure know how to divert attention/change the subject, diverting everyone’s attention onto the seat belt. Thinking about it, it really is strange. Everyone on the plane only had light injuries, so why were there deaths? Could it be? Really? No way. This issue is more complicated than you think.

Asian Airlines Flight 214 crash at San Francisco International Airport.

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  • Terrik

    “An ambulance may have ran over one of the Chinese girl victims. The Americans sure know how to divert attention/change the subject, diverting everyone’s attention onto the seat belt. Thinking about it, it really is strange. Everyone on the plane only had light injuries, so why were there deaths? Could it be? Really? No way. This issue is more complicated than you think.”

    Uhm.

    • Joey

      The Chinese girls were actually spies, assassinated by the US government.

      • Atlas

        They probably came over to map American dialects!

      • markus peg

        Joey that’s an untasteful joke and isn’t funny, those poor girls lost their lives, don’t be so incentive.
        Learn from Bambi – Quote “If you haven’t got anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all”

        • Joey

          Learn from Rage Against the Machine: “Fuck you I won’t do what you tell me”. Thousands of people lose their lives every day, brighten up a little.

          • markus peg

            Learn to pick your battles, even if you feel that way, you don’t have to share it.

            If it had been Americans who died and Chinese people were making jokes and laughing our comments on Chinasmack would be angry, you are making jokes at the expense of someones life regardless of nationality its wrong and to make it worse its a recent event.

          • Chris Hansen

            “One person’s death is a tragedy…but a million is a statistic” Joseph Stalin…I guess this suit you pretty well then…

          • mr.wiener

            “Tragedy is when I prick my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer, break your leg and die”…Mel Brookes.

        • mr.wiener

          Agreed. those poor girls did nothing to deserve this. Humor is fine, but in this case I’d temper it with a little compassion.

          Please note: I’m staying the hell away from using the “smite” button. I don’t want to turn into a soup nazi.

          • Like cops, they always start out with a sense of justice, a naive outlook and value of their job as lawmen…but the older ones laugh and sigh, knowing that eventually they’ll cave into the powers they hold. They always do.

          • 迪玛

            They chose HARD模式. They knew what could happen.

        • Jin

          well said, I support that!
          You make other people see things from another angle, good.

    • Guy Fawkes

      He made a good guess about the ambulance though. It is actually reported in the news. Read:

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2358016/Asiana-crash-One-dead-outside-plane-hit-responders.html

      • mr.wiener

        Love the way the English comments are all about “Will you stop using that American term :First responders”.

        • What’s the English term for it? The meat wagon?

          • mr.wiener

            Probably: Fire fighters, ambulance personel and emergency workers.

          • Two American classics of total literalness. “Cell” phone and driving a “stick” shift. What next, calling a burger a sandwich because it ain’t beef? Oh wait….

          • Mighty曹

            I can see how ‘cell’ came into being as it was shortened for ‘cellular’, which originally described the signal transmission in overlapping cellular ‘bubbles’ as the phone moves from one location to another.

            But the ‘stick’…. hahaha….

          • I always scoffed at anyone who says “chicken burger”. How uncultured to think that just anything between sesame seed buns is a hamburger.

            Nice photos, by the way.

          • I know, I was just trying to reference some first world war slang.

    • mr.wiener

      I didn’t know the western media had even talked about one of the girls who died not wearing her seat belt. The first I heard of it was from the Chinese reporter in the vid.
      Lucky all things considered to have only lost 2 lives considering the severity of the crash. The looks amazingly intact.

      • One of them could be pardoned for a last minute bathroom use. Seems like more stir up for the blame game.

        • Ralphrepo

          Actually no; when a plane is landing ALL PASSENGERS must remain in their seats, return all tray table and seats to their upright positions, buckle seat belts, yada yada… So no, one of them wasn’t using the bathroom at the last minute. Anyone who’s ever rode on a plane understands that.

          • Anyone who had ever rode a plane had probably seen disobeyers and last min runs upon plane descending despite the rules after the sea belt sign turns off. you must be observative on well behaved flights.

          • cb4242

            I fly all the time with Korean Air mostly and on occasion Asiana. Many Koreans unbuckle their seat belts once the plane has landed and starts to taxi along the runway. I see it and hear it. I’m always amazed at why so many Koreans do this. Maybe because they are more impatient perhaps.

          • cb4242

            And also Chinese, minor correction and add on.

          • markus peg

            as soon as the wheels touch the floor they get the bags out of the over head locker even tho it takes another 15 mins before the plane stops and lets people off.. no one can go anywhere so whats the point trying to run to the front of the place with your bags? In china they sometimes just allow it but its never allowed on international flights they get told to sit down

          • Baphomet

            I saw a emirates flight attendant, polish or russian, cannot remember which get pissed off with some chinese people flying out of dubai who thought it was ok to play on their mobile phones during take off….they soon found out it wasn’t , lol

          • Germandude

            Seriously, what did they do? Flight attendants must be in one of the worst positions to actually discipline a passenger. No matter what they do, the passenger can file a complaint and screw them up. Service industries usually are like this.

          • Baphomet

            Kept smartphones powered on and were calling/texting or playing games on them, as the plane was about to take off, despite it being in the emirates safety video that all devices must be powered off for take off. When I pointed the ignorant fools out to the attendant, she sighed and told me it has happened before, then gave them a reprimand.

          • asdf

            Umm… upon landing they always check and lock the bathroom manually from the outside. Even though it is easy to unlock I doubt disobeyers can find the secret lock mechanism under the little hatch.

          • CheddyZeddy

            the plane reported an emergency, so how comes she wasn’t wearing her seat belt?

        • Mighty曹

          Most likely, she was ‘thrown’ out of the cabin during the crash.

        • Galt

          I’ll wager it was one of the Koreans, or most likely a fucking Japanese person who secretly unbuckled her before the crash.

      • Mighty曹

        The local news have been covering this extensively as it is big news here because the accident is the first major one in 40 years.

        The only mention relating to the safety belt was that some of the injuries are ‘consistent with wearing a seat belt’. Nothing about the deceased girl NOT wearing one.

        • mr.wiener

          Hi mighty, welcome back. You been busy bro?

          • Mighty曹

            Hey Mr.Wiener! Thank you, Bro. I was out of town for the long weekend. July 4th was on Thursday but we also got Friday off so I went to Reno (3 hours drive from San Fran) for some casino actions.

            Yeah, I was sitting at a bar with some friends when we saw the news of the crash. We all thought it was worse than it looked.

          • Kai

            Dude, Reno? The only time I can stand setting foot in Reno is if it’s for snowboarding at Tahoe. Reno always struck me as Robocop Detroit. The place depresses me.

          • Mighty曹

            You’re right. It is a depressing town. That’s exactly what I tell people, that it’s boring and has no life except in the casino area.

            So you were North/East of Reno in order for it to be on the way to Tahoe?

          • Kai

            No, I was coming from the SF Bay Area. We’d sometimes stay in Reno rather than Tahoe because it was cheaper.

          • Mighty曹

            That makes economical sense but not practical as all skiing spots are around the Tahoe area. Reno is another hour’s drive up northeast under ‘normal’ condition. No telling how long when it’s snowing.

            Try staying at the north shore and go to Squaw Valley or Northstar. That’s much cheaper than the south shore and Heavenly.

      • Repatriated

        I haven’t seen a single mention of seatbelts in media here in the USA.

    • I don’t know what that guy has been through to consider paralysis and severe road rash to be “light injuries”.

      I hadn’t read or heard anything in the media here about not wearing seat belts. I think the general idea is that when the tail section came off, people started getting in contact with things including, but not limited to: the tarmac.

      The bit about one of the girls possibly being hit by one of the rescue vehicles was reported here as a possibility, but not necessarily what killed her. They said the found both bodies on the runway.

      • I can’t really make out if the girls were ran over by people or vehicles. Doubt they would do detailed autopsies.

        • Repatriated

          They will for sure undergo autopsies being that they were the only 2 fatalities.

        • TJDubs

          Autopsies are over and were both ruled suicides. Nothing more to investigate.

      • Mighty曹

        They must have been thrown out of the cabin and already laying dead on the tarmac.

    • Light injuries? Broken backs and paralysis. What is a heavy injury then?

      • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

        Most likely skin loss and whatever induces coma.

        • That would be the severe road rash that I read about

          • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

            I’ve had that happen to me. Very unpleasant let me tell you. Especially if your still conscious.

      • Dr Sun

        Getting crushed and de-gloved by a ambulance

    • Jeff

      Communist propaganda at work again. It could NEVER have been a Chinese person’s fault.

    • tomoe723

      americans being blamed for what is surely the effects of reckless actions of a novice pilot…. the two girls were probably seated way back at the tail and didn’t survive the impact upon landing…

    • Dumbledore

      90 percent of the netizens are without education, living at home or in an internet cafe. I’m actually amazed they’re able to find any reasonably coherent posts at all.

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  • markus peg

    It’s a shame that this happened, Though id like to point out, even the Chinese tend to ware seat belts on the plane (its not the same as the car issue we spoke about in the other thread. although they take off the seat belt as soon as the wheels touch the ground they do at least ware them. its unfortunate that they were not no matter the course of death that surly didn’t help.

    Also can someone confirm if this comment is correct or not “Korean reporter said “The latest news is that it was 2 Chinese people and not Korean people who died in the accident, thankfully.”
    If that is the way it was said then that is outrageous and unacceptable, the woman should be fired.

    • Nick in Beijing

      I just flew into San Fran International in March. Flight out of Beijing, connection in HK, and then on to SF. Both landings (HK, and SF) both had the majority of the Chinese passengers unbuckling their safety belts and getting up to get bags out of the overhead compartment before the wheels even touched the ground, not to mention all the people making phone calls on their cell phones and on and on.

      This is definitely a case of pilot error, I am not blaming the girls for their own deaths, but let’s not absolve the typical Chinese airline passenger of their “flying with Chinese characteristics” in a show of false sympathy for the death of two people that no one here knows and all will forget about in a few day’s time.

      All the racist bangzi comments in the Chinese post translations makes me a little upset.

    • Germandude

      I thought the same. Reporters tend to say sth in the lines of “Luckily, none of us…” or similar. I doubt she was thankfully acknowledging that the people killed were Chinese. Just relief that no Koreans were killed. That’s a huge difference.

  • POS

    On the seat belt issue; I once took a Korean Air flight from China to Korea. The Chinese guy next to me was an obvious peasant. Besides leaning over my lap to look out the window for about 20 minutes as we descended this guy was also such a knuckle head that instead of buckling his seat belt properly he tied it in a square knot… unbelievable.

    For the girls, it is really a loss… I hate those trans-Pacific flights. Almost to their destination after such a long journey only to meet tragedy, RIP.

    • Mighty曹

      Chinese Redneck.

      • linette lee

        Chinese Redneck…..

        that is a good name. hahaha …lol.

        You are 曹曹 ? Are you smart? :)

        • Mighty曹

          Yup, 曹操 is my forefather. I’m glad you said ‘smart’ and not ‘cunning’. :)

          Btw, where have you been?

          • linette lee

            sorry, it’s 曹操 not 曹曹. ;P you are funny.

            I went back to HK with my mom for 3 weeks to visit my aunt. She had kneecap surgery so me and my mom went back to take care of her. :) How are you?

          • Mighty曹

            Oh welcome back. Beside taking care of your Aunt, hope you had a good time there shopping and eating.

          • linette lee

            oh my god. I ate so much. Mostly those small hk tea cafe. So cheap and yummy. I ate so much dim sum too. I shopped the ladies market. So cheap and nice. Can’t beat HK on shopping.

          • Mighty曹

            The best part is that you may gain weight but you will lose it by doing all that shopping. Is ladies market still the same? How about Temple street?

        • donscarletti

          曹操, i.e. Mr Fuck Cao in English, so we have the expression: ‘Say “Fuck Cao” and Fuck Cao arrives’.

          • linette lee

            Huh???

          • donscarletti

            “说曹操曹操到” translated into English.

          • Mighty曹

            It’s more like “Speak of the Devil… the Devil comes”.

          • Mighty曹

            Why ‘Fuck Cao’?

          • donscarletti

            Well, 曹 is his family name, 操 is his given name. In English, the given name is put before the family name.

          • Mighty曹

            曹 is my family name too. I understand the placement of surnames. I was asking how ‘Fuck’ came into your expression.

          • donscarletti

            Well, “操” used as a verb in modern Chinese tends to mean “fuck”. Technically that word is supposed to be written “肏” and his name would not have any bad meaning during the three kingdoms period, but over the last couple of decades where swearing over written media like online and SMS has become more important, it is written increasingly as “操” for convenience.

          • Mighty曹

            Ah..I see. 肏. That must be a mainland usage as I’ve never seen it used by Cantonese and Taiwanese Mandarin speakers.

    • I once saw a Chinese second-rich generation SNATCH a whole bag of Toblerone chocolates from the flying attendant’s hands… it was on a lufthansa flight going to Frankfurt. She got mad furious and started shouting at him… btw she was twice his size… she took the bag back and made him sit down. Epic loss of face for that kid. Everything happened right in front of me while I was getting the extra chocolate I asked for.

      Don’t feel so sorry for “peasants”. In this world rich and “educated” people behave way worse.

  • lolwtflearn2drive

    I thought it was Asians who can’t drive? WTF AMERICANS STOP RUNNING OVER POOR LITTLE ASIAN GIRLS

    • markus peg

      Is it amusing? Would it be equally as funny if it happened to you?
      Grow up and stop acting like a young red bottomed baboon.

      • Mother Nature

        I can’t stop laughing, as a matter of fact. x”D

        • markus peg

          Well i hope you are laughing at my red bottomed baboon comment because if you are laughing at the story with lolwtflearn2drive then your an evil sh#t whose going to hell

    • Mighty曹

      The emergency vehicles drove through chaos, dust, smoke, debris, etc. probably not knowing there may be passengers on the field.

    • mr.wiener

      Dick comment mate.

    • Germandude

      You should change your nickname into lolwtflearn2think

    • Reginald

      Ask them to wear seat belts then, the autopsies will probably show no injuries associated with wearing one, they don’t just separate. If a fasten seat belt call was given and the flight data recorder shows the signs on, its going to be tough for their families to get compensation, regardless of how dodgy the men upfront were.

  • YourSupremeCommander

    All this destruction and only 2 people died, amazing. The crew and passengers (except for the pilot obviously) did good!

    • Ralphrepo

      It was a lot of luck, IMHO. Also, it was luck that the plane didn’t crash into the waiting aircraft sitting alongside, on the adjacent runway. I bet those people in the other plane had some tense nail biting moments watching it; the whole thing unfolded less than a 100 feet away.

      • Could you imagine having to take off (if they were waiting to take off) after seeing that?

        • Dr Sun

          unnerving to say the least

  • Ralphrepo

    Everything I’m hearing seems to point to trainer error; he gave his student pilot too long a leash and the inexperienced pilot (vis a vis this type of air frame) lost control of the aircraft. When even passengers, who were later interviewed, implicitly knew that the plane was flying too low and too slow, the pilots should have known and had reacted much faster; that is, before the plane was allowed to lose that much altitude and air speed. In essence, the trainer should have recognized the danger and had immediately taken control more than a minute before the crash and lifted the plane back up for another pass. In the final few seconds on their approach, there isn’t really anything that anyone could have done. By the time they belatedly realized their mistake and tried to take action, it was already too little too late.

    • markus peg

      I agree i was say pretty much the same thing offline to someone today.

  • Mighty曹

    I’m glad there were only 2 fatalities (as of now) considering how the spun and burst into flames. Being a San Francisco resident I’ve landed at SFO hundreds of times and have never felt any danger. As a matter of fact, the airport’s safety history has been very good with the last accident dating back to 1970’s and that had no fatality.

    • Symantec

      Actually the SF airport has the 4th worst record of airport accidents in United States. They may not all have fatal consequences so that’s why you don’t know about them.

      • Mighty曹

        I think you’re talking about ‘Runway Safety Occurences’ and not actual accidents. The T+L’s article says, “Rankings were based on both the overall number of runway safety occurrences and their severity, especially “A” and “B” incidents in which an aircraft collision was narrowly avoided or there was significant potential for a collision.”

  • Nalliah Thayabharan

    The Asiana Flight 214 – a Boeing 777-200 – crashed in favorable weather — partly cloudy skies and light wind.The twin-engine Boeing 777-200 is one of the most popular and safest long-range planes, often used for flights of 12 hours or more, from one continent to another.
    The Asiana Flight 214 originated from Shanghai, China, left Seoul’s Incheon International Airport 10 hours and 23 minutes before its crash landing on Runway 28 at SFO. The 7 yrs old old Pratt & Whitney PW4090 powered Boeing 777-200 entered final approach at an abnormally low speed of 98 knots per hour (181 km/h) – well below the target landing speed of 137 knots per hour (253 km/h).
    The two pilots on Flight 214 were Lee Jung Min, 49, a graduate of the Korea Aerospace University who joined Asiana in 1996, and Lee Kang Kuk, 46, who started his career at the airline in 1994 and got his pilot’s license in 2001. Lee Jung Min has flown a total of 12,387 hours with 3,220 hours on a Boeing 777, while Lee Kang Kuk has flown a total of 9,793 hours, with only 43 hours of which were on a Boeing 777. The pilot – Lee Kang Kuk – did not make a distress call before landing. He came in short of the runway, tried to correct buy pulling up, got the nose too high and hit tail first. Pilot Lee Kang Kuk was attempting his first Boeing 777 landing at SFO, but his ninth overall with the Boeing 777. The aircraft crashed hard to the ground, smashed the landing gear and spun around. The fuel tanks ruptured, but being at the end of the flight did not contain a lot of fuel and the resulting fire was “relatively” small and most of the passengers were able to get out in good shape.
    The SFO Airport had intentionally disabled ground-based landing guidance system at the time of the crash. The Boeing 777-200, registered as HL7742, was delivered on March 07, 2006, and had accumulated 35,700 hrs on 5,185 cycles as of March 31, 2013.
    Passengers Ye Mengyuan and Wang Linjia, both 16 years old from Jiangshan in eastern China may have been run over and killed by a rescue vehicle. One child and five adults remained in critical condition. A total of 307 people were on board, 291 passengers and 16 crew members. The passengers included 77 Koreans, 141 Chinese, 64 Americans, 3 Indians, 3 Canadians, 1 French, 1 Japanese and 1 Vietnamese.

    • markus peg

      very informative, thanks

    • Dr Sun

      A terrible tragady, one question
      ” SFO Airport had intentionally disabled ground-based landing guidance system at the time of the crash.”
      Did they want it to crash or something ?

      This will probably be the end for Asiana , who will get sued, their share holders will run off, they will go bankrupt and hundreds of jobs will be lost..

      • markus peg

        I doubt that, many airlines have had crashes and are still around.

        • They’ll still be around, but perhaps we’ll be lucky enough to get cheaper flights! The problem is that they had that rookie pilot, with only about 45 hours of flight time in the 777 (of that model) and apparently had never landed one before. So yeah, they’ll get sued and fined, I’m sure.

          Don’t worry about them making this same mistake again. The safest space shuttle flight was the one right after the Challenger, know what I mean?

        • Dr Sun

          This one though was pure pilot error, cant blame it on any mechanical stuff, their toast.

          prove me wrong, cash in your pension and buy Asiana shares in the morning, they’ll be cheap ??

          no one answered why the ground landing guidance was deliberately turned off ?

          • Construction on extending the runway safety area. There are more than just that one guidance system that pilots can choose from to guide their plane to a landing.

          • Dr Sun

            why would you need to turn that off when your laying tarmac ?

          • I don’t know. I’m not an airport construction expert. However, I would assume that perhaps it did have something to do with electrical wiring (they would need to extend the lighting system, after all) and safety measures to prevent electrical shock to the electricians. That’s just my somewhat educated assumption. Again, there’s far more than just lights that a pilot can use to judge when and where to put his plane on landing, especially in broad daylight in good weather.

          • I took a lighting design and power course for airport runway lighting and power distribution. The lights are usually circuited in series which means depending on safey procedures, electricians can work the new installs if they disconnect a section of it or depending on how it is all grouped by breakers. for lighting only, for up stream power, there may be sectioned outage. I believe when layout of anyghing was done, they took in maintenence considerations.

          • Repatriated

            I was reading a pilot forum. Many seasoned pilots mentioned that the ground guiding system is considered an “aid” and shouldn’t be needed for a pilot with experience to land the plane. Some also mentioned the 100’s of flights that have been landing daily while they’re completing the maintenance.

      • tomoe723

        it was probably some kind of test on the check pilot for the novice in his training… either way, those two pilots will serve jail time for this tragedy.

        • Dr Sun

          hope so, they have killed 2 people and injured many more, this should be made a very lesson to airlines and pilots.

    • CheddyZeddy

      At last, someone who reports clearly. you should blog for ChinaSmack. very informative

      • MonkeyMouth

        except that he/she didnt say snowden was on that plane

  • Mighty曹

    It’s refreshing to see none of the Chinese netizen comments suggested the students to be some rich officals’ offsprings.

    • Or that the plane was Japanese….

      • foijfewo

        yeah the japs sabotaged the plane. i’m sure the koreans would also agree to that.

      • YourSupremeCommander

        So how does SF fit into this discussion?
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        Just ask the dude with the SF hat.

        • Mighty曹

          ‘Niners’ cap. (dumbass)
          How does SF fit into this discussion? By being the host of the airport at which the plane crashed. That’s how.

          • YourSupremeCommander

            Relax bro, being all defensive exposes your insecurity.

          • Mighty曹

            Not defensive. Just annoyed that you still don’t know my football team. (After I sent you a link to purchase the same cap).

          • YourSupremeCommander

            Real football is played with the foot, na mean?

          • MonkeyMouth

            ask a south african or an australian

          • Mighty曹

            Simple: American Football. World Football.

          • MonkeyMouth

            NIners IS an SF hat…. wtf are you two blathering about? in an aside.. i predict the seahawks to choke this year… Go Kaepernick!!!!

          • Mighty曹

            NO NO NO! My baseball team (Giants) cap also has a SF logo. But YES I hope the Seahawks suck this year (I’m a bit worried about them). Go CK7!!!

      • Mighty曹

        Or that the plane waiting to take off on the adjacent runway was JAL causing great distractions.

      • “The prejudices are rooted deeper than the principles.” ― Niccolò Machiavelli

        Outrage
        at news station duped into reporting false and racist names for the
        Asiana crash pilots… as it emerges NTSB INTERN ‘confirmed’ the names
        to station

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2362486/KTVU-prank-Outrage-news-station-names-pilots-racially-insensitive-monikers.html

        Illuminati Conspiracy?

        Flight 214 = 2+1+4 = 7

        Number of crew members 16 = 6+1 = 7

        Teenage girl that died age 16 = 6+1 = 7

        South korean passengers on board flight = 77

        Airplane type – Boeing 777

        Sunday = 7th day of week

        July = 7th month

        7 th day of july the 7th.

        Do you see this pattern ? VERY WEIRD, reminds me of flight 180 in final destination.

  • no

    well it’s fun looking at those women carrying out their precious hand luggages in spite of death

    • Mighty曹

      One 6-year old Chinese boy who suffered a broken leg says, “I don’t want to stay here (hospital). I want to go to an American hotel”.

      • I would say the same thing, though

        • Sounds like an entitled spoiled brat.

          • Mighty曹

            I’ll try to locate the video of the interview with the boy’s mother.

          • Staying in a hotel is far better than staying in a hospital. Unless you get one of those Japanese AV nurses. Then I suppose I would prefer the hospital room.

        • Mighty曹

          Yeah, even Motel-6 is better than being in a hospital room.

  • Karze

    Despite horrific accident only two died which show the excellent work done by the crew and rescue team. Sad to loose two girls in the highly imbalanced gender ratio in China.

  • 外国人的祖国!

    Why couldn’t some foreigners die, instead of two of our nationals?

    • Nice try

      • Mighty曹

        Hahaha… you sniffed him out.

        • Didn’t really need to sniff him out, he pretty much peacocked his way into view.

      • Germandude

        I give him a 2 out of 10.

        • Mighty曹

          I admire your generosity.

          • Germandude

            I am coming from a social welfare state. We take care of the poor and the mentally instable.

      • mr.wiener

        I smell white troll masquerading as asian troll.

    • Alex L

      Welcome to the realities of air travel.

    • Jack Meoff

      Well, if they had half of a brain, they wouldn’t have unbuckled their seatbelts when the plane touch ground. Darwin proves to be right again – it’s time to get those genes out of the gene pool!

      • mr.wiener

        I’m starting to think your gene pool could use a little chlorine.

    • MonkeyMouth

      exactly…. this was in SF…. so why couldnt more ‘foreigners’ die?

  • MonkeyMouth

    if this had been a sichuan airlines flight,. all would be dead. the MOMENT them planes hit the tarmac, all you you hear is the unclickunclick of the belt buckles. just think for a second…when does a seat belt help you? in midair??? duuuuuh????

    • I was on a flight out of Tokyo a few years ago when air traffic control had us at the wrong altitude to deal with some storms and turbulence. We flew right into it and lost a hundred feet or so, enough to make our drinks and flight attendants float up into the air before crashing down really hard when the plane finally caught itself. It did this two more times in a matter of seconds, then shook violently enough to send the luggage over our heads flying out and crashing on the ground. Really glad I had my seat belt on (most people did, it was late) or else I probably would have ended up somewhere else in the cabin. The most terrifying part was when I saw the flight attendants crying and one was praying…then I started thinking this is certainly not normal and we are going to crash into the ocean. The worst part was 45 minutes later, when it finally calmed down, we still had to fly for another 9 or 10 hours on edge. Fell off the stop-smoking wagon when I got to DFW.

      • MonkeyMouth

        wow, dude… you got 9 lives for sure. harrowing….

        • I had no fear of flying before that, but afterwards…for some reason, take-offs creep me out. But yeah, it was a 777…those wings were flexing to the point I thought they were about to goal-post and snap off. 777’s are some great planes.

          • Mighty曹

            I always feel safe in the venerable 747’s. The 777’s will eventually join that rank.

          • If I have a choice between the 747 and the 777, I choose the 777. It’s a bit nicer, being newer and all. The rule is that flight attendants in 747s have to be as old as the plane design itself.

          • Repatriated

            My first pick would be the 777 as well. 2 deaths in 18 years of service seems to be a pretty good record in my book! Not to mention, the seating seems a bit roomier.

          • Mighty曹

            Most older flight attendants have seniority over younger ones in choosing the flights (that’s how it works at UA). Maybe they’re choosing the plane instead of the flight. :D

            I’d choose the triple-7 too if given the choice but almost all the my destinations are via 747 or Airbus.

          • Baphomet

            777’s are awesome….BA still use creaky old 747s on their China-UK routes, not sure how their 777’s are layed out. Bouncing over convective thunderstorms over mongolia/russian border but it still held together, yes people were hitting the Gin and tonics after that one!

          • Baphomet

            Take offs freak me out too, took the airbus a380 twice, amazes me the beast can get in the air, I swear from dubai it was struggling once when there was some outside weather pressure.

          • Haha I always think that if there is any chance of the wings snapping off, an engine failure, or a bird getting sucked into the engine, it’s going to be at take-off. I figure they’re the most mechanically stressful times for airplanes. I don’t really know what I am talking about, but my brain believes itself and it doesn’t really leave my mind until maybe 30 minutes after takeoff haha

          • Baphomet

            I do believe take off and landing are the only times when the pilot actually flies the plane, the rest is on autopilot. The pilot must rotate and then also put down the gear and so on for landing. But you are right, the bird thing has happened before

      • Mighty曹

        I would’ve hit the bottles too!

    • Dumbledore

      Almost crashed on a China Eastern some years ago (big bang, circle/dump fuel/emergency landing). Honestly, it’s a bit of a miracle there haven’t been more crashes domestically. Also -and this is highly subjective- it seems that 4 out of 5 departures within mainland China are riddled with delays. On average I believe I have to wait 2 extra hours every time I fly in China.

      • LuoyangLaowai

        I hate flying Inside China. Im always thinking WHAT CORNERS DID THEY CUT WHILE REPAIRING THIS PLANE.

  • Repatriated

    Imagine your mood if you were sitting on that other plane in the last pic!

    • Mighty曹

      I’m sure it wouldn’t be as bad as when it prepares to land. My co-worker just showed me a pic sent by her friend who was on board that plane. She said she wanted to get out of the plane.

      • Jack Meoff

        No sh it, Sherlock.

      • YourSupremeCommander

        Traumatized? Check
        Scared Shitless? Check
        Need counseling? Check
        Better tell your co-worker’s friend to lawyer up. My cut is only a modest 10%.

        • Repatriated

          I wonder if there were people in the terminal that witnessed the accident…and said screw it and decided not to fly that day?

  • Alice S

    R.I.P.

    • Jack Meoff

      Too bad it wasn’t full of Muslims, you as swipe.

      • mr.wiener

        Can you curb your hostility a little please.

        • MonkeyMouth

          power going to your head, weiner? haha…. (love ya, man!)

          • mr.wiener

            Die a hero or become the villain I guess.

  • Jeff

    Come on, the Chinese ALWAYS start to get ready to leave the plane as it is preparing to land. You can hear them undue their seatbelts and even stand up to take stuff out of the overhead while the plane is landing. On a trip to Sanya once this douchebag started running down the aisle while the plane was still in the decent. Just so he could be first off.

    Regardless how smart the are or how rich they are they are still a bunch of low class savages.

    I had to take a G Train to Shanghai recently. Everyone has a seat number on their ticket but they still push like savages to try to get on the train before everyone else. And forget about common sense or courtesy. Let someone OFF the train before you get on?? Well WHY THE HELL would I do that…?

    • Jack Meoff

      You know, if they had half of a brain, they wouldn’t have unbuckled their seatbelts before the plane touched ground. Darwin proves to be right again – it’s time to get those genes out of the gene pool!

    • MonkeyMouth

      who downvoted this TRUTH???

    • hujintao_nima

      when i was little we played a game, where last one off is a rotten egg. in china they play this game on every plane, train, ferry, bus, elevator etc.. except here in china it’s called last one offs a japanese.

      • 迪玛

        So what would we expect of the whole nation playing kids games?! :)

        It is not the consciousness of men that determines their being, but, on the contrary, their social being that determines their consciousness. I’m sure K. Marx definitly addressed these words to the chinese.

    • Repatriated

      Yep. Almost EVERY time I would take a flight or train in China, someone would be in my seat when I got to it.

      I was in Narita waiting to get on an ANA flight back to Shanghai. I was just standing off to the side while the masses were cramming/pushing their way on to the plane. One of the girls at the desk came over and escorted me through the business class line. Haha.

    • Baphomet

      To be fair, on the budget airlines plying the UK and Spain I’ve seen people doing that too. I would say low class savages are everywhere, always me first, and to hell with everyone else. Or after ME, you come first mentality. You are right about the G train.

    • It’s funny, because it happens every time.

      When flying on a Chinese airlines they don’t say much about it, but on US airlines they’ll try and get them in their seats. I remember once a family wouldn’t hold on to their two year old and just let it run up and down the aisles. The flight attendants had to return it to the parents and explain the safety concerns to the parents at least a dozen times.

    • yes i noticed this too, the first time I went to China it was quite shocking to see this. Most that did it look like aunty or uncle from a rural area. Then they just wait there for the door to open, how awkward. Guess they just want to run off and arrive home first to tell their family how they beat the other sucker-passenger on the plane. How exciting. Arriving home first.

    • funny thing is that in China the same situation applies to elevators, taxis, buses, trains, even Mcdonalds.

      I remember me and my french friend playing “Rugby Scrum” each and every time we had to get off an elevator.

      “oh, I knocked down your kid… sorry”

      I’ve said it before. if you are in China, when the elevator is about to open, pretend you are the best rugby player in the world (i.e. Jonnah Lomu) and you are running alone into the in-goal, and run through them without any fear, not like they are going to punch you or anything… even so… don’t worry it doesn’t hurt.

      Chinese are not “savage”… they are ridiculously selfish.

      PS: in Chinese airports they take your lighters away NOT because of security reasons only, but also because the airlines know VERY WELL that most Chinese men don’t give a fuck and would smoke on the plane anyways.

    • Roy Emerson

      I would have to agree. I used to be a flight attendant for many years and people would undo their seatbelt the moment the plane touched the runway. We would still be taxiing and I would have to make an announcement to remind them to sit down and fasten their seatbelt, but they never listened. They would ALWAYS stand up while the plane was taxiing. If a person cared about their safety they wouldn’t do that. Not to mention that it was just disrespectful to the flight attendants to ignore the rules and that they are just trying to do their jobs and protect you, but hey, if you think that you know better than a flight attendant and the FAA, be my guest!

  • MrT

    planes burn so easy and quick, not surprising when the build quality is of a caravan.
    Good job they had the time to get off.

    • mr.wiener

      Actually considering this plane did a tumble it’s surprisingly intact. The crew did a very good job getting people off [despite some dum-arses grabbing their luggage before the fire took hold.
      Damned lucky the tanks were near empty though.

      • Repatriated

        I can’t believe, after seeing the vid, that the hull held together.

        • Mighty曹

          Boeing may emerge as the winner in all of this.

        • I can’t believe the pilots survived. Seems they’re generally the first to go.

          Imagine having paid all that money for first class…up there at the front, getting tossed around and slammed into things.

    • Repatriated

      777-200ER
      – Empty 142,430kg (314,000lb) with 374kN/84,000lb engines, 143,015kg
      (315,300lb) with 400kN/90,000lb engines, max takeoff optionally
      263,085kg (580,000lb) or 286,897kg (632,500lb).
      777-200LR – Max takeoff 341,105kg (752,000lb).

      752,000 lbs…and to tumble like that….hardly a poorly built “caravan”.

      • MrT

        and yet it still feel like you sitting in a caravan!
        So great!

        • mr.wiener

          I’ve never sat in a caravan for 9 hours with my knees up near my shoulders and someone else’s baby puking on me.

          • MrT

            its actually better to be in a caravan because as soon as you learn that person driving never done it before you can decide to get out and say fuck that.
            Where as once you get on a plane that’s live training pilots to fly with passengers on board to save money, well your fucked aint ya.

        • Al Jazeera is playing a dangerous political game? why whats happening?

    • Jay K.

      Mr.T you are an idiot.

      • MrT

        Thank you, I try my best.

  • asdf

    But seriously man SOME Chinese have been known to be idiotic about little things concerning safety. For example standing on pass the sidewalk onto the street while waiting for the crossing light to turn green for what? To be 5 seconds ahead of everyone else? And this is in Shanghai I would love to run them over maybe one of these days. Same thing with bicycle riders they rather stop in the middle of the street waiting for the cross light to save a mere 2 seconds crossing while putting their life in the line. Or even worse some would still cross despite it is still being red and got hit by an unseen turning truck who could not drive on time. Of course these issues are not applied only to Chinese specifically; but this is one of the norm in China.

    • asdf

      excuse the wrong word choices, wasn’t concentrating; drive=brake

      • markus peg

        if you created a disqus account you would be able to edit the comment if you made a typo.

  • Nalliah Thayabharan

    On January 23, 2013, the Jet Airliner Crash Data Evaluation Centre
    (JACDEC) announced that Korean Airlines had the fifth worst safety
    record among 60 international airlines that were reviewed.

    On January 06, 2007 – Korean Air Lines Flight 769 from Seoul to
    Akita, Japan, landed on an unoccupied taxiway instead of the intended
    runway 10, which was the airport’s only runway. The Boeing 737-900
    aircraft with 124 passengers and 9 crew landed without any injury or
    damage.

    On April 15, 1999 Korean Air Cargo Flight 6316 (McDonnell Douglas
    MD-11) from Shanghai to Seoul took off despite the Korean co-pilot’s
    repeated misunderstanding and miscommunication with the tower and the
    pilot. The aircraft climbed to 1,500 meters and the captain, after
    receiving two wrong affirmative answers from the first officer that the
    required altitude should be 500 meters, thought that the aircraft was
    1,000 meters too high. The captain then pushed the control column
    abruptly forward causing the aircraft to start a rapid descent. Neither
    was able to recover from the dive. The airplane plummeted into an
    industrial development zone 10 kilometers southwest of Shanghai Hongqiao
    International Airport. The plane plunged to the ground, hitting housing
    for migrant workers, and exploded.

    On March 15, 1999 – Korean Air Flight 1533 (McDonnell Douglas MD-83)
    from Seoul to Pohang departed for Pohang. Weather at Pohang was poor
    with degraded visibility and gusty 25 knot winds. The pilot failed at
    the first attempt to land. After the second approach the plane touched
    down, but overran the runway. The aircraft skidded through 10 antennas, a
    reinforced barbed wire fence and came to rest against an embankment.
    The landing snapped the fuselage in half.

    On August 05, 1998 – Korean Air Flight 8702 (Boeing 747-400) from
    Tokyo to Seoul. The flight departed Tokyo at 16:50 for a flight to
    Seoul, scheduled to arrive there at 19:20. Inclement weather at Seoul
    forced the flight crew to divert to Jeju. The aircraft took off from
    Cheju at 21:07 bound for Seoul. On landing in Seoul, the 747 bounced
    multiple times and slid 100 meters off the runway before coming to a
    stop in a grassy area.

    On August 06 1997 – Korean Air Flight 801 (Boeing 747-3B5) from Seoul
    to Agana, Guam, The crew attempted a night-time approach to Guam runway
    06L. Flight 801 had descended 250 meters below the prescribed altitude,
    struck the 225 meters Nimitz Hill at a height of 200 meters and crashed
    in a jungle valley, breaking up and bursting into flames. Subsequent
    investigation found that the captain’s failure to adequately brief and
    execute the non-precision approach and the first officer’s and flight
    engineer’s failure to effectively monitor and cross-check the captain’s
    execution of the approach were directly responsible for the crash. It
    was the first fatal crash of the Boeing 747-300. Contributing factors
    were the captain’s fatigue and Korean Air’s inadequate flight crew
    training.

    On September 22 1994 – Korean Air Flight 916F (Boeing 747) from
    Zurich to Busan. Eight days prior, the aircraft had encountered a severe
    hailstorm over Elba, Italy which led to a near miss incident. The
    aircraft sustained severe damage to the radome, cockpit windows and
    engines but managed to reach Zurich safely. Some repair work was done,
    but the aircraft needed to be ferried to Busan for final repairs. Boeing
    released the aircraft with some take-off performance changes, which
    included a limited gross weight by 70,000 pounds and increased takeoff
    speeds for V1, V2 and VR by 15, 17 and 14 knots respectively. The
    aircraft was cleared for a Runway 14 takeoff and ZUE 5P departure. After
    a long take-off run, the aircraft lifted off the runway at the very end
    and climbed slowly. At 900 meters beyond the runway end the aircraft
    cleared some adjacent buildings at fewer than 50 meters. Subsequent
    investigation found that despite clear instructions to reduce weight,
    the crew had overloaded the aircraft by 86,700 pounds

    On August 10 1994 – Korean Air Flight 2033 (Airbus A300) from Seoul
    to Jeju, the flight approached faster than usual to avoid potential
    wind-shear. 15 meters above the runway the co-pilot, who was not flying
    the aircraft, decided that there was insufficient runway left to land
    and tried to perform a go-around against the captain’s wishes. The
    aircraft touched down 1,773 meters beyond the runway threshold. The
    aircraft could not be stopped on the remaining 1,227 meters of runway
    and overran at a speed of 104 knots. After striking the airport wall and
    a guard post at 30 knots, the aircraft burst into flames and was
    incinerated. The cabin crew was credited with safely evacuating all
    passengers although only half of the aircraft’s emergency exits were
    usable

    On June 13 1991 – Korean Air (Boeing 727) from Jeju to Daegu, the
    aircraft performed an unexpected gear-up landing at Daegu. The crew
    failed to read out the landing procedure checklist and therefore didn’t
    select the gear down option. Subsequent investigation revealed that the
    pilot instructed the co-pilot to pull the fuse from the warning system
    because the repeated warnings that the landing gear was not deployed
    were, “irritating and distracting,” him as he attempted to land. With
    the warning horn disabled, the Korean pilot brought the plane in and
    slid down the length of the runway on the central structural rib in the
    belly of the aircraft
    On July 27 1989 – Korean Air Flight 803
    (McDonnell Douglas DC-10-30) from Jeddah to Tripoli. The aircraft
    initially departed Seoul on a flight to Tripoli with intermediate stops
    at Bangkok and Jeddah. Visibility was varying between 100–800 feet and
    the runway 27 ILS had been reported unserviceable. On final approach to
    runway 27 the aircraft crashed short of the runway, striking 4 houses
    and a number of cars.
    December 23, 1983 – Korean Air Cargo Flight
    084 (McDonnell Douglas DC-10) from Anchorage to Los Angeles, while
    taxiing out in fog, the Korean crew became disoriented and ended up on
    the wrong runway. During the takeoff run, the aircraft collided head-on
    with Southcentral Air Flight 59, a Piper Pa-31 which was taking off from
    runway 6L-24R for a flight to Kenai. The nine occupants of the South
    Central Air flight were injured. The DC-10 overran the runway by 1,434
    feet and came to rest 40 feet right of the extended centerline. Federal
    Investigators determined that the Korean pilot had failed to follow
    accepted procedures during taxi – causing disorientation while selecting
    the runway. The pilot also failed to use the compass to confirm his
    position. Ultimately the pilot’s decision to proceed with takeoff
    without ever knowing if he was on the correct runway caused the impact.
    September
    01, 1983 – Korean Air Flight 007 (Boeing 747-230B) departed from New
    York City for Seoul via Anchorage. At 5:00 AM the flight was cleared
    directly to the Bethel VOR beacon and then on to the Romeo 20 route. The
    pilot mistakenly diverted from its intended course and passed 12 miles
    north of the Bethel beacon. While approaching the Kamchatka peninsula,
    six Soviet MiG-23 fighters were scrambled. Because a U.S. Air Force
    Boeing RC-135 intelligence plane was flying in the area east off
    Kamchatka, the Soviets may have assumed the 747 radar echo to be the
    RC-135. The flight left Soviet airspace over the Sea of Okhotsk and the
    fighters returned to their base. Passing abeam the Nippi beacon (four
    hours after take-off), the aircraft was 185 miles off course and headed
    for Sakhalin. Two Soviet Su-15 ‘Flagon’ fighters were scrambled from the
    Dolinsk-Sokol airbase. At 18:16 UTC, flight 007 re-entered Soviet
    airspace. At 18:22, for the second time, Soviet command ordered
    destruction of the target. Two air-to-air missiles were launched by one
    of the fighters and one struck the Boeing at 18:26. Cabin pressure was
    lost and the aircraft suffered control problems, causing the plane,
    after a 12 minute flight, to spiral into the sea near Moneron Island.
    The event was denounced by the US Reagan Administration as a deliberate
    and wanton act of murder by an “evil empire.

    On April 20, 1978 – Korean Air Flight 902 (Boeing 707) departed from
    Paris for Anchorage and flew to within 780 km of the North Pole when
    Canadian officials alerted the crew they were off course. They changed
    course, but worsened the situation by setting a course directly across
    the Barents Sea and Soviet airspace. The plane was initially recognized
    by Soviet anti-aircraft defense radars as a Boeing 747. Sukhoi Su-15TM
    jets were sent to intercept. When both jets were flying next to the
    Korean airliner, the Korean captain claimed he slowed the plane and
    initiated landing lights. Nevertheless the Su-15 crews were ordered to
    shoot down the plane. According to US intelligence sources the Soviet
    pilot tried for several minutes to convince his superiors to cancel the
    attack on the civilian airliner. After an additional order two P-60
    rockets were launched. The first missed but the second severely damaged
    the left wing and shrapnel punctured the fuselage, causing rapid
    decompression that killed two passengers. The Korean pilot initiated an
    emergency descent to 5,000 feet and entered clouds. Both Soviet jets
    lost the Korean plane in the clouds. The aircraft continued at low
    altitude, crossing the Kola Peninsula while searching for a landing
    opportunity. With night quickly coming on, several unsuccessful attempts
    were made before the plane landed on the ice of Lake Korpijärvi, near
    Kem, USSR. All occupants were rescued by Soviet helicopters. Damage–
    severe, Injuries– multiple, Deaths- 2 (two of 197 passengers)
    On
    August 02 1976 – Korean Air (Boeing 707) cargo flight departed from
    Tehran for Seoul when, on takeoff from runway 29, the aircraft
    inexplicably deviated from the Standard Instrument Departure (SID)
    procedure and drifted to the right instead of performing a left turnout.
    It continued and struck mountains at an altitude of 2,020 meters

    • MonkeyMouth

      but koreans invented air travel. just breaking a few eggs, if yaknowwhatimean

    • Critical Thinker

      OK, so Korean Air was pretty bad with safety record in the 1990’s. What’s that got to do with Asiana who has a totally different set of safety records, other then the fact that both airlines are Korean? You see, it’s like pointing to bad safety record of American Airlines, to describe a crash by the United Airline.

  • MonkeyMouth

    look at the picture where the truck has run onto the escape slide.. and one victim ‘run over by a rescue vehicle.’…..reminds me of the scene in the Simpsons when homer wants to skateboard jump across the grand canyon. or something from Super Dave

  • William

    Chinese should boycott Korean airlines … given that Koreans seemed happy (from their news broadcast) that the causalities of this “humain error” incident are Chinese.

    • markus peg

      that comment about the reporter was untrue, the news reporter said luckily their were no Korean casualty’s while reporting to Koreans. she did not say, as the Chinese comment above says “thankfully it was only 2 Chinese who died not Koreans” that statement is incorrect. her words were twisted to become something they never intended to be. making her and Korea seem hateful. They were not Happy. You can look at the Korean online comments about this on Koreabang http://www.koreabang.com/2013/stories/korea-responds-to-asiana-airlines-crash.html

      They pass on their thoughts to the parents of the two girls who died. they are not as inhumane as made out to be.

      • chucky3176

        It was just a foot in the mouth comment by the announcer, pretty bad comment, but slip of the tongue. Let’s be honest. We all think
        similarly when our own nationals are safe, but would never dare to speak it loudly in public, nor should we.

        It was the South Korean twitter users who picked it up first and got outraged over it, causing a storm of controversy. Then the Korean media reported it, followed by the Chinese media, further enraging the Chinese netizens.

        Article here. Read the comment section. Now the Japanese internet right wingers have involved themselves in typical fashion. They are like stalkers whenever something bad happens in Korea. They pick up on news that Koreans have never even heard of. It must be somekind of psychotic sickness.

        http://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2013/07/08/newscasters-comments-spur-anger-in-south-korea-china/?mod=WSJBlog&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

        • markus peg

          Good link, yes a slip of the tongue, the comment was wrong, but the words were still twisted on social media sites to make them even worse. I do agree with a comment on the link you posted that an apology should be made for the misunderstanding to try and redeem them selves.

          • chucky3176

            An apology was made by the TV announcer and the TV station, but according to a Korean news source the Chinese netizens aren’t taking it too well.

            http://news.hankooki.com/lpage/world/201307/h2013070915551522450.htm

            They’re saying the apology wasn’t sincere. One Chinese user said “Koreans don’t respect Chinese lives”. I understand the anger over the statement, but it should be directed at the TV announcer.

            Here’s a picture of a stewardess who risked her life, saving this Chinese national, being the last one to get off the plane.

            http://photo.hankooki.com/newsphoto/2013/07/09/coming201307091823300.jpg

            There is overwhelming support for the two dead girls in Korea.

            Picture of the two girls appeared in a memorial tribute in this article here.

            http://mbn.mk.co.kr/pages/news/newsView.php?news_seq_no=1409771

          • Justice P

            If the Chinese media will report bad things that other countries do in a crisis, will they also report these positive news? Probably not.

          • markus peg

            With some people, its never enough. I think they did the right thing and of course one persons actions should not be taken to account for the whole nation… but as always it seems to be seen that way. well done for the update.

            Also the stewardess should be rewarded by the airline. They have a hard job, they are scared just like everyone else but have to be brave for the passengers. Hero qualities. well done stewardess.

  • Californiaz

    Wonder what race the pilots were. If they were Asian then the stereotypes need no need saying.

    • mr.wiener

      Yeh, stereotyping is fun…..What’s that, you are Hispanic? Oh I won’t take up too much of your time, I’m sure you have to be getting down to the border fence to pick up your relatives.

      • MeCampbell30

        Two wrongs don’t make a right.

        • ewrwef

          two wongs don’t make a white

          • Guest

            your right, because wong 黄 means yellow =]

        • mr.wiener

          No they don’t, but the purpose of satire is to point out the fallacies and hypocrisy of an argument.

          • Mighty曹

            And you laid a great example.

        • Mighty曹

          They’re not Chinese so it can’t be two Wongs don’t make a Wright.

      • That’s not a stereotype…THIS is a stereotype

        Typical Australian

    • 迪玛

      I’m sure they were Japs kamikaze pilots.

  • SoySauce

    Honestly, I’ve been reading chinasmack for almost a year now, how come the mainland Chinese or wherever you may be have nothing positive to say? Always blaming other countries for this or that? It’s easy to talk behind a computer, if you hate America, Japan, Korea or any other country, then stay in China, don’t bother with exchange programs or education in the Western countries. Don’t bother with nice electronics, vehicles, and technologies. If you want to talk, then make a difference, make China better! It’s this narrow minded thinking and the sense of entitlement that is embarrassing, education is wasted on today’s Chinese youth because you are no better than the country side peasants.

    • markus peg

      Remember these comments come from internet websites, Chinese people who spend all their time commenting on sites from internet cafes etc… which means a higher % of the comments are stupid.. Although smart comments can be found most of the higher educated and open minded don’t tend to leave comments on such sites. of course i am generalizing here but i think it sums up why most of the selected comments are as they are.

      • 迪玛

        QQ makes me feel stupid. :

        • markus peg

          QQ makes your computer stupid just by being their…
          People ONLY use QQ because everyone else uses it… similar to facebook, Im in China and cant use facebook, but rather than E-mail me, my overseas friends still insist on using ONLY facebook… fecking annoying!

          • 迪玛

            Uhm, I just wanted to agree with your previous post. Most original comments are taken from the most visited places and the quality of visitors and their thoughts reflects how far ahead is a chinese 5000yo educational progress. (grim, sarcasm).

          • markus peg

            Ok, sorry if i was insulting, I personally have problems when it comes to QQ just as i do with Facebook. I don’t like the way people reply on them and help them to monopolize. It’s always healthy (especially for the customer) to have strong competition.

          • 迪玛

            Facebook? What is it? Never heard of. I hope it suxx.

    • SoySauce

      Nice to read some positive and constructive feedbacks. I never posted but I feared “Chinese” may blame S. Korean Asiana Airline not for pilot’s nor other errors but simply anti-Korean semitism.

      It’s really embarrassing with China’s history that no one can post something decent but instead blames the wealthy, blames foreigners, blames government, blames the world.

      History itself is a learning tool but not used to hate and post a stupid comments. I personally made mainland Chinese at my university before and I often wonder, “what the hell are you doing in American and learning in a western country?” because you still have the mind set of the Red Army and “how can you hate Japanese when you socialize with them constantly and want to date the female students?” Another thought is that “if you hate American and so proud of China, what are you doing here in the U.S. looking for a job, why not go back to China?”

      I still believe hard work and open mind can make you successful as long as you are realistic with your goals. Internet cafe and using the internet to voice opinions is fine, but some of these comments are so blatantly ignorant and not helping with Chinese stereotypes.

  • Justice
  • American 4 Life

    I like how some of the passengers had time to get their carry-on bags before fleeing an airplane engulfed in flames.

    • moop

      yeah there was a washington times (or washington post, cant remember) that stated passengers were grabbing their luggages instead of their children, at the time i didnt know there were 160 chinese passengers on board, but reading the article i thought to myself, “must have been chinese”

  • Mother Nature

    :)))))))))))))

  • Harold Janson

    Ironically, both of the dead girls were going to some christian summer camp… obviously they picked the wrong god

    • markus peg

      Why does it mean they chose the wrong god?

      Quote – The happiness of heaven commences immediately after death,if they believe in god then they know that death is harmless to the people of God. [Christians think like this so they wont see it your way]

      dieing with faith is better than dieing without. agree/disagree believe or dont believe either way you dont have to mock.

      • Harold Janson

        Sorry, your beliefs are wrong. There is no “heaven” you just rot in the ground and any perception of an afterlife is a direct result of chemicals being released on death. *poof* you’re gone, and that’s the end… pretty sad if you wasted a high percentage of it preparing for something that doesn’t exist.

        • markus peg

          Believe what you want. All I’m saying is, don’t mock.

          Two girls died and you feel its appropriate to say they picked the wrong god?

          not only that but your comment was pointless because non believers will think you have a valid point and believes will think of the quote i posted above. so all you are doing is disrespecting the two girls who died rather than convincing anyone either way.

          Do you understand what i mean? Lastly you don’t even know what my belief is you just assume its wrong.

          • Harold Janson

            If you survive a plane crash, being ejected from the plane and then get run over by a fire truck… yep, pretty sure you picked the wrong god.

          • Why shouldn’t gods be mocked? Why is it okay to mock people for liking a certain pop music band, but not okay to mock them for believing in some religion? It’s basically the same thing.

          • markus peg

            It’s not okay to mock because two girls died….
            Let’s take your example comparing bands to this issue.

            Would you mock someone over a taste in music if they died while listening to said band and an electric fault on the headphones electrocuted them to death?

            It can be done but it’s highly untasteful to do so. Mocking those who have died is disrespectful, especially when its just hours after the two girls deaths. [As it was when the above poster left the message].

          • I was not talking about mocking the girls who died. I was talking about mocking fictional beings who do not exist.

  • Harold Janson

    Gotta love the korean training program.. 43 hours in a 777? Never landed one before at SFO? ALL of your experience is in a 747? Sure, what the hell, give it a go! I dunno, maybe this genius should have spent more time flying cargo if he wanted to fly a 777 with lives at stake. But, Koreans being Koreans… gotta go for the cheapest route possible I guess.

    • chucky3176

      You are seriously misinformed. The 747 pilot who was inexperienced in 777 had an experienced supervisor sitting right beside him. Deborah Housman who leads the NTSB’s crash investigation said in her briefing with the reporters, that she finds no problem with the experience level background of the pilots, and that pilots who fly new different planes, are a standard practice for all airlines. After knowing this now, maybe you’ll never fly again.

      • Mighty曹

        It must be like driving. Each make and model of a car handles and behaves a little differently.

        Most commercial pilots interviewed said “It’s not the pilot’s error. It was the CREW.” Some even think culture plays a part in it by suggesting that the co-pilot did not want to ‘disrespect’ the pilot by telling him ‘something’s not right’.

        • chucky3176

          Agreed that it was probably the crew’s failure. But I don’t buy the culture thing. The stall alarm would have rung out when they were reducing speed to land, there wasn’t even any need for anyone to tell the pilot that there was something wrong. But for some reason the older supervisor of the trainee who was more experienced, ignored it. That is why it is too early to rule out a possible instrument malfunction on the plane. That has to be carefully looked at as well as interviewing the pilots. We’ll have a better ideal what happened when the experts sift through the cockpit conversations. The cultural thing that you speak of, was based on the Korean Airline’s cockpit culture of the 1990’s. The safety regulators in Korea over the last decade, worked very hard to change that. It paid off in 2008, when South Korea was ranked No. 1 in a safety assessment of member countries of the International Civil Aviation Organization. Maybe the standards have slipped since then, with lax attitude, I don’t know.

          • Mighty曹

            Exactly. With hundreds of lives at stake I doubt any sane subordinates would hold their tongue in fear of his superior.

            They did have a run of ‘mishaps’ (mostly KAL) in the 90’s but have since been very reliable in the industry. Hope this is a wake up call if their standard is, indeed, starting to slip.

        • haha Yeah the “culture” thing seems like one of those tall-tales people come up with to joke about how different and backwards other cultures are. Like “believe it or not, but the Koreans are so strict about their hierarchy that once there were these pilots…” so on so forth.

          But there’s a lot of flight accidents and near-accidents where an entire cabin full of pilots and copilots don’t seem to realize there’s a problem.

          • Mighty曹

            Or bumper stickers that says, “Respecting One’s Own Culture/Hierarchy Kills”.

            This reminds me of the time when I didn’t know the importance of not beating “your boss in golf”. While briefly living in Honolulu I had just started work at this shooting range as an instructor. After a week, during one of my boss’s nightly shooting ‘practices’ a co-worker told me, “He’s been at it for 12 years but still can’t pull it off (hit all 12 shots in the Bull’s eye)”. Feeling up to the challenge I went in and told my boss that I’m going to ‘try it’. After 3 rounds I managed to put all 12 in. I was hot-dogging a bit after the accomplishment. But my boss would not speak to me for over a week. I learned I had committed an ultimate dis.

          • Jung

            Damn right.

            What has the situation that happened in Korean Air in the 1990’s, have to do with Asiana?

            US media keeps citing the Asiana crash two decades ago and a relatively minor taxiing incident fifteen years ago to conclude that Asiana Airlines has a problem. In the same time period (i.e., 1993 to present) American Airlines experienced more fatal accidents or serious problems, including deaths in 1995, 1999, 2001 (not including the 9/11 hijackings), and 2009.

            In terms of accidents, Asiana is still one of the safest airlines.

          • Before my last trip to Taiwan, I knew I was going to be taking China Airlines. It was the cheapest one available by far. Then, just for shits and giggles, I decided to Google image search all the airlines. Delta had nice images of their planes. United had a great shot of its plants flying over some snow-capped mountains. American Airlines had, again, gorgeous shots of their planes gracefully cruising through the sky. Japan and Korean airlines all had the same as these, even better (nice flight attendants). Then I searched “China Airlines” and was treated to scenes of Michael Bay style fireballs and carnage.

          • linette lee

            Take Cathay. The best. :)

          • I would have, had they not charged so much more. But my flights with China Airlines have always been pretty nice anyway.

          • linette lee

            post your photo with your baby girl monkey on your avatar. I want to see. Is she big now?

          • She’s about gorilla size now.
            No more photos on Chinasmack, though haha

          • linette lee

            gorrilla size? hahah…lol
            She is camera shy.

          • Haha no, I have plenty of photos of her. Definitely not camera shy. You can find them on my Facebook, though…just not going to upload them onto chinasmack

          • Anyway you can find my facebook through my 500px link…there’s lots of monkey photos there

          • Baphomet

            I’ve taken the “red eye” (american english?) out of London to HK many times with cathay pacific. Those air stewardesses, my oh my….breathe deep:)

          • Jay K.

            i have to admit for intl flights, my fave has got to be cathay pacific. they do you right, especially if you are the pilot haha.

  • linette lee

    So sorry. The summer supposed to be fun and vacation turned into funeral for the parents. So sorry. :(

  • Your Sexy Cousin Rex

    That’s what the chanks get for not wearing seat belt

  • Repatriated

    Well, the pilots have been interviewed. They are blaming the auto throttle for not functioning properly. I have one question for anyone that drives. If you were going down the highway with the cruise control set, wouldn’t you notice if you were slowing down? I mean there’s a speedo right in your face….

  • Eimi1003

    I find it insulting (although maybe a result of CCP brainwashing?) that some Chinese commenters think it’s common for non-Chinese to not wear seatbelts on planes—trust me it’s normal in other countries to wear seatbelts on planes. It’s disturbing that so many Chinese don’t get it.

  • Slenth

    Being an American and having been to China Several times, I can 100% tell you truthfully that not wearing a seat belt is a Chinese norm. In America it is the Norm and the Law to wear your seat belt. Accidents happen, pray for the people effected by this, please do not belittle anyone. This is not the human thing to do.

  • JB

    China people and air travel don’t mix well. Taking people’s seats, not fastening their seat belts, talking on the phone or taking photos when the plane is taking off and getting up as the plane is about to land. No common sense.

  • chucky3176

    American media making fun of this crash. San Franciso TV Station running a news story with fake “Asian” names, making fun of the tragedy and Asians.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/12/asiana-pilots-fake-names-racist_n_3588569.html?utm_hp_ref=media

    • Mighty曹

      I was just watching this station earlier and saw the anchorman addressing the error with an apology. I was wondering what it was. This is embarrassing to say the least. Even just looking at the names I knew right away sum ting was not right but to actually read them off is inexcusable.
      I’m embarrassed for my city.

      • chucky3176

        As long as they are allowed to get away with this type of stuff again,
        it will continue. This isn’t the first time, nor the last. Really,
        somebody should go down there and picket the station and make a big stink, like how
        African Americans would do. Now nobody messes with them.

        This keeps happening over and over and over.
        They think
        Asian Americans are easy pushovers, that’s why they laugh (look at all
        the netizen comments), even after they’ve apologized. San Francisco has a large Asian population, I want to know what they’re going to do about this. Are they going to look away again and pretend it didn’t happen?

        Apology by the TV station should not be accepted.

        • Mighty曹

          Someone should lose his/her job at the station for letting this slip. Maybe not the anchorman who was simply reading off the teleprompter but the person who proofread it or prepared it and should have raised a flag. But I guess in the haste to get the news out – the ‘You heard it here first’ mode – it slipped past everyone involved.

          As for protesting, I can tell all that will happen is The Chinese for Affirmative Action (CAA) will make a half-assed demand that amounts to nothing. However, in light of the 3rd death they should step it up and make sure someone is made an example of to ensure that this will never happen again.

          • The person who prepared it was an unpaid intern. Everybody else was innocent except for their incompetence at not noticing the “joke”.

  • Mighty曹

    A “summer intern” sounds like “Temporary worker”.
    http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/ktvu-apology-friday-noon-report/nYpSg/

  • mable

    if this crash occur elsewhere, its blamed on the poor control flight management of the host country but just because it occur in the world #1 country, the rest of the world are easily mislead to put the blame on the airline

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