Family Planning Commission Weibo, Chinese Netizens Reactions

Chinese billboard featuring propaganda promoting the One-Child Policy.

Since June 18, the day when the National Health and Family Planning Commission made its first post on Sina Weibo, the post elicited criticism from netizens on China’s one child policy. Here are some selected netizen reactions to the post.

From Sina Weibo:

@健康中国: Hello everybody, the National Health and Family Planning Commission weibo @健康中国 [“Healthy China”] officially opens today. We will be releasing the latest information on public health and family planning, featuring experts in the field, disseminating health knowledge, listening to your voices, occasionally holding discussions through Weibo Topics. We are looking forward to your participation!

Comments from Sina Weibo:

手机用户2822588105:

Parasite! All these years of family planning violation fines [fines for violating the One-Child Policy] has raised a bunch of bastards!

emiagough:

The public’s anger cannot be appeased!! Are you not able to show some sincerity by letting people have two kids?! Or are you going to continue ignoring this?! In China, public opinion is the most worthless thing, to be trampled upon as one pleases!”

哎哟_小怪兽:

The family planning commission is a cult-like organization that should be publicly tried! The obstinate cult leaders should be punished with extreme prejudice! These trash constantly change the data, misleading policy-making at the higher levels, massacring the ordinary common people’s children, voraciously amassing money, stepping on the bodies of countless babies, and claiming so-called political contributions [achievements in governance]! We should immediately repeal such an evil policy, outlaw this rubbish organization, otherwise this interest group will inevitably prevent reforms of population policies. The Chinese nation has come to the most dangerous moment!

我亡帝國主義之心不死:

Look at all the comments below and you should realize that there was absolutely no need to open this weibo account.

散人和自在:

May all family planning commission employees die childless! Every day, I’ll curse them [here on their account] before going to sleep. Awesome!

小熊猫1996:

The post-60’s and post-70’s groups [people born in the 1960s-1970s] are huge, and when they retire in ten or twenty years, preparing to live out their remaining years, they’ll find sadly that there is no one and no money [to support them]. They’ll cry for help but get no response from anywhere, and that’s when everyone will think of the family planning commission.

Elderly Chinese with a baby.

那个姓欧阳的永州人:

I’m happy to see the opening of the family planning commission’s weibo regardless of whether or not there is any communication or interaction. At least victims can vent their anger here, and at least the Family Planning Gang can directly find out what the Chinese public think about them. The Family Planning Gang always says the Chinese people voluntarily accept all kinds of ‘services’ [such as forced abortions], but here the Family lLanning Gang leaders are just getting slapped on the face.

小子羽:

Perhaps the family planning commission’s so-called good policy is not actually allowing the people to have two children, but to be more polite/civilized when collecting fines, and expressing more sympathy/condolences after forcing abortions. In fact, allowing for two children is what the masses want the most but what the commission is least willing to do. However, if allowing two children were to really happen all of a sudden, will the family planning commission have a hard time getting used to no longer having any fines to collect and no people to catch and force abortions on?

莫奴生:

Ever since the family planning commission opened this weibo, I have added a task to do before going to bed every day: Sincerely wish all the family planning workers to die childless, and that their entire family go through 18 levels of hell.

百折而独秀:

Featuring experts? You mean the pioneer in forcing sterilizations, or the model worker who got rich by fining people?

一个普通的人2013:

We are not even asking for three or four children, just two. Is that too much?!

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  • ChinaPrat

    Pricks

    • MrT

      knobheads

  • markus peg

    When the population is so huge, drastic measures need to be put in place. I don’t agree with the way it was handled in certain areas but I understand the train of
    thought behind it.

    India should think about doing something similar (not the same, similar). Families in India have too many children and not enough money to support them then they grow up and produce too many…

    India has the biggest population per square meter and will overtake china in the future as the most populated country in the world despite being half China’s size.

    • MrT

      and being a complete shit hole that cant feed it self, but its western backed so is OK.

    • BiggJ

      Yeah man you have they have to put a stop to having multiple children in china and India. The more people the more problems you will have. For any nation to have over 1 billion people is crazy.

    • slob

      People should only be allowed to have children if they can prove they are financially/mentally stable to do so. The same system for having children should be like the adoption system.
      Why is it that you can fuck someone, pop out a million kids, and even though you’re a poor fucking idiot with no job/future prospects, nobody cares…whereas if you are a loving couple who are financially stable and both in good mental health, you have to go through a tonne of procedures to adopt children? The people in charge of this world are fucking idiots, plain and simple.

      • Alex

        why do they don’t have future is not dependent of the parents’ background but on how society can help them to integrate.

        And no, there is no psychological tests to prove if they are ready to have children…

      • Misiooo

        Seems there is still hope if comments like this pop up. No one should be allowed to ‘have’ children by default, only if proven by proper screening and tests capable of being good parents (by no means financialy, here is where government should step in with help), should be granted relevant ‘licence’. Problem is in this insane socioeconomical system we live in, no ‘power’ will let it happen as its very existence depends on constant inflow of fresh blood. In such system childrens’ suffering was, is and always be irrelevant.

      • EJ

        In a perfect world, yes. But there are a myriad of social, cultural, and economic factors that result in so many people having more than two kids. It isn’t just an easy one system fits all kind of thing.

    • Dr Sun

      just to let you know India has had a policy of sterilizing poor rural women for years.

      • James

        judges in the us have ordered people to stop reproducing, the first one i remember was some welfare parasite putting out future felonious democratz

        • Dr Sun

          got a link to support that ?

      • markus peg

        I wasn’t aware of that, though it doesn’t seem to be enough…
        I also think other countries around the world should make plans for population.

      • 迪玛

        Oh, goddamnit, now it’s clear why they rape females and feel no sorrow about this.

      • Shovon Chowdhury

        Not true.

        • Dr Sun

          sorry very true, check your facts, before you post rubbish responses.

          • Shovon Chowdhury

            Were you just born rude, or did they have to train you?

    • Alex

      I don’t think China has a population problem but a distribution of the population problem, so please, stop talking about controling someone’s else lifes.

      • markus peg

        Alex, do you even know about the one child policy? those from rural areas are allowed more than one child its those in the cities that cannot. Control is what is already happening so why cant we talk about it?

        • All of them are allowed to have more than one kid, the difference is the fee they pay is way smaller than those in the cities. And now if both parents are single children they are allowed by law to have a second one. in Dongbei’s countryside it was 5K RMB fee for the second Child. in Changchun it was 30K RMB.

          If you think China is backwards in the cities then you should see the countryside. Many people in Rural areas of China are still getting down like they were doing back in the 60’s. If you are in china find about the “黑人” of the rural areas

    • Interpolator

      Some wrong assumptions. Almost all places in India are equally populated. If you exclude the areas and populations of the biggest provinces in China: Inner Mongolia, Qinghai, Tibet, and Xinjiang, the population of China is still bigger than that of India. Combined population of Tibet and Qinghai is less than 10 million. Those places are freaking huge. If you really want to compare, look up population per unit area of arable land on Wikipedia.

      • markus peg

        I think you misunderstood. i didnt say the population of India was more than China I said Indian has the biggesnt population per square meter that means more people in less space than anywhere else on earth. China still has the largest population however with current trends India is looking to over take China as the most populated country within the next decade.

    • SigridEkman

      Although I see your point, fact is that China’s ageing population will present a major problem. Absurd as it may sound, too few kids are born in China from an economic perspective. A two child policy would be better as you would ensure that there is a large enough pool of people of working age at any time.

      However, statistics show that families quite naturally have less 2 children once they have access to health services.
      eg. Hong Kong has a fertility rate of just 1 child per woman, Taiwan and SIngapore likewise, Thailand and Vietnam have fertility rates less than two children per woman and I could make this list longer.

      So a 2-child policy would probably be redundant if you can proviide basic necessities for people.

      • Alan

        It’s a bit of a conundrum; they really don’t want a huge population, but they don’t want a lopsided age distribution, either. It’s been said that the age distribution in China right now is ideal for productivity purposes – but headed in a different direction fast due to the one child policy. It would be hard for them to maintain the growth they’ve experienced with this fundamental fact. Look at Japan. We’ll just have to see if there will be major unrest as a result 10 or more years down the road.

      • markus peg

        people outside of big cities can have more than one child.
        the the mum and dad are only children born (maybe born out of the one child policy) they too are allowed more than one child.

        The west seem to just bung all the old people in to a retirement home where as some should be looked after by family. China is the other extreme, all needing to be looked after by family which in some cases isnt possible… both need to mix the family idea with retirement homes to help look after the older generation.

    • SigridEkman

      India by the way has a fertility rate of 2.5 children by the way which is close to the replacement rate.

      I think we tend to hold on to old stereotypes that were true 30-50 years ago.

      I would really suggest visiting http://www.gapminder.org, a website which presents health economic statistics in a very intuitive way. Watch some of the video presentations which dispell the stereotypes we tend to hold about developing countries.

      • Kai

        Just watched two videos. Great link!

    • Duke

      Population control is needed in every country as long as you have a monetary system. This is because no one wants to “pay” for other people’s children. In America everyone complains about “welfare babies” and people who cheat the system for financial gain. It’s all part of living in a world where money is more important than actual resources. We produce food in vast numbers on this planet. Ever go to the supermarket and find it empty? We could feed the whole planet easily. However, no one has figured out how to make money from feeding hungry people. If someone could figure out a business model that could produce profit from feeding hungry people, there would be no hungry people and the amount of children people had wouldn’t matter. I imagine the aliens watching us think we’re crazy for letting people die of starvation, surrounded by food for want of “pieces of paper”. It seems crazy to me that the most “important” and “powerful” thing in the world, money. Is something that doesn’t exist unless we believe it exists. Am I crazy or are we all crazy?

      • markus peg

        I agree that all countries need to keep a close eye on their population but no more so that India and China at current times.
        also even if we have enough food to feed everyone now, if things don’t change it will get harder and harder to make that possible.

  • Germandude

    Yes, and if IQ would determine if you are allowed to breed children, your parents would have been prevented to producing a retard.

    • James

      very eugenicist outlook

    • James

      anonymity on the internet reigns, well except for the nsa

  • mr.wiener

    Charming as always.
    Why do I feel the need to bathe in bleach after reading one of your posts?

    • YourSupremeCommander

      but you leave his comment on and not impose a ban, so you must agree with what the retard is saying.

      • Dr Sun

        I’m not sure it’s within the edit of mods to ban someone just because they disagree with what they say.

        btw, congrats wiener

        • mr.wiener

          I’m a peanut-dicked liberal. I get to ban people but I have to feel conflicted about it.

        • mrs.wiener

          As I see I am getting banned even for neutral comments…

          Schlitzaugevölkermord

      • mr.wiener

        Still getting used to the “smite” button.

    • lonetrey / Dan

      ooh! You’re a mod now?! :O

      • mr.wiener

        Hey, the Americas elected Reagan didn’t they?

        • weg

          Fauna likes her ass kissed.

          • mr.wiener

            Chance should be so fine a thing.

    • Great, you’re a mod now. Now you’re going to get all high and mighty and forget about us small people.

      • Germandude

        I am not sure about this. I think being a chinaSmack mod is just a small step on wiener’s career path. There are rumors circulating that his final goal is to join the NSA.

        • mr.wiener

          Die a hero or become the villian.

          • Germandude

            I see. Now may I ask how you stand towards corruption?

      • mr.wiener

        I’d never forget the small people. You’ve made me what I am.

  • Germandude

    The one child policy is an explosive topic that is one of the few things I agree with when Chinese say that foreigners don’t understand. We come along with our morals of rescuing life and how bad abortions are while we are neglecting the consequences to feed an approx 400 million more people that would be in China. While we are presented daily the troubles Africa faces with too much population and not having enough resources.
    Of course, moral heights and religion (troll) are not the answer but opportunists are not shy on taking the highground. Do I think the one-child policy is a good solution? No. But it probably is the only solution at the moment.

    • hun

      There’s another faster solution. War.

      • asian don draper

        cigarettes and pollution does the trick already man.. just wait it out.

        • cigarettes dont do enough.

          • asian don draper

            you clearly havent smoked a pack in beijing…

          • We are talking about cigarettes, not beijing. Maybe there’s more toxic shit in chinese cigarettes, but my idea still stands, its not toxic nor fast enough… ie efficiency.. otherwise the trick would be done by now.

      • Germandude

        No. Cause in wars, the wrong people die. The guys responsible for wars sit in bunkers, watching the TV to see who is winning.
        Either you are one of them suggesting war as a solution, or you are simply stupid.

        • mr.wiener

          I’d go with the latter.

    • James

      “Beat Poles until they lose faith in a sense of living. Personally, I pity the situation they’re in. However, if we want to survive -we’ve got only one option – to exterminate them

  • BiggJ

    Problem is with humans is having no real predators to thin us out we need to take that matter in own own hands. Certain areas of the world are less populated but the countries with retarded high population like India and China need to do something about it.Pretty much almost half the worlds population are in these 2 countries. I know it would suck being told you can only have 1 child but what else can they do? Let chinese families keep having 5-10 children each? India will also adopt the same things as china or something similar soon enough.

    If I was running china I would have a lottery to see who could have kids. Rich or poor would not matter every registered married couple would have their name in and and only so many names drawn every year. That a drastic thing to do, Just drastic times call for drastic measures.

    Thank god I was born a Canadian and don’t have to live in a place where measures like china has in place. If anything Canada pays you to have kids.

    • MrT

      all the spare Chinese could go to Canada then.

      • BiggJ

        Hey man, China’s population problem is china problem. We already have enough chinese as it is. We already have between 1.5 and 2 million chinese. With a population of only about 34 million….That’s plenty. Chinese are like fucking rabbits. They reproduce too much.

        • MrT

          why did you import one then?

          • BiggJ

            I never imported anyone.

          • MrT

            oh, already there?

          • MrT

            anyway, China got plenty of space for more Chinese, I can still ride around here and not see one for a hour, so not like its overcrowded here.

            Also most the Chinese I know have more then one kid, brothers, sisters, and they aint rich types who have paid for it, but they do take care of them self’s and dont rely on the state like they fucking do in the UK where they breed like rabbits and then go begging to the government to feed them.

            So China is dealing with it well.

            The fucking muppets above moaning know fuck all about the rest of the world.

          • BiggJ

            Yeah the space is there but the problem I think is the resources that people use. Most people means more pollution more food more of everything. Less people means more for everyone else.

            Yeah canada is the same. It always the poor retards who have shit tons of kids and gets the government to pay for them. Most families wont get married and the man just lives there with a different mailing address and she can claim welfare by being a single mother. All that does it makes taxes high for no reason.

            But all canadians get a child allowance…. rich or poor. Each month you get a check for like 2 or $300 dollars until the kids is 18 years old. So the more kids you have the more money you get.

            Yeah the chinese in canada are pretty good. Pretty much normal people. Don’t cause too much trouble and usually do pretty good. Even the pakis and indians are not so bad in canada. We have lots filipinos come to work in the fast food places. I notice like there will be a whole team of Filipinos working at a McDonalds or something. Its like that for most fast food places. They do alot of the hotel maid shit too.

          • MrT

            Yea China needs to modernize its farming methods to the same high standards of the west, they still fucking about with small plots of land using old sht to cultivate it.

            They should invest massive amounts of money into farming and bring the poor rural types out of poverty and reduce the amount of them flooding city’s looking to earn some decent money.

            Cure a whole load of problems if they was to do that.

          • BiggJ

            Yeah they are too busy building factories and buildings to worry about that. Actually china just build the worlds largest building in chendu. It can fit like 20 Sydney opera houses inside of it.

            http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/01/travel/china-largest-building-chengdu

          • MrT

            oh yea seen that crazy.
            not as big as the NSA building thou in UTAH.

          • MrT

            oh wow just seen that the CNN web site running them same system as this web site.

            Now im scared.

            NSA watching you!

          • BiggJ

            Pfff. They can watch me all they want. I’m not doing anything wrong. They can look at what porn I look at on the internet if they want to. I hope they like super BBBW’s….woman so black they look purple. The blacker the berry the sweeter the juice.

            Serious though I really don’t know why people would get pissy about the government seeing what you do on the internet. They would only watch what you do if you become suspect anyway. the average white person is not being watched by the government. Like if I was being watch it would be a total waste of their time. I;m sure some middle eastern people get watched. But if they are not doing anything wrong then who cares. I really don’t care if the government watches me. They can watch me fuck, take a shit, smoke weed…I don’t care.

          • You can say that all you want until there are false positives made on you. The general fallacy for accepting a loss of privacy just on this one notion of ‘im not doing anything wrong’ is where you missed the big possibility of the ways of the law and how everyone is commiting a crime if they don’t understand how it can be used against you once you become a target. Ignorance to ever changing laws is no excuse for giving up personal rights. its people like you who accept a falling cage will be the demise of the americas but thank goodness you are canadian and its befitting that you are in china.

          • BiggJ

            Number 1 I don’t live in China
            Number 2 What are you going to do about if the government ever does want to spy on you? And what do you plan on doing to stop it?

            If they want to spy on you they will…simple as that. Spying has been going on for probably 1000’s of years in one form or another. No one likes the fact that a any moment pretty much anyone with a cell phone or an internet connection and who walks where a satellite can see them can be tracked. I don’t know….that just how the world is today. Have you ever been to London? You can’t go anywhere around there without being on camera. All you can do is keep your nose clean and hope for the best.

            I think they actually don’t do as much as they say they do. If I was running the government I would tell people we can see your every move and hear your every conversation even if I can’t. It probably keep people in line. Just because they can does not mean they are doing it. You know how much man power and resources to spy on everyone? Look how long it took America to fucking find Bin Ladin…..I’m not worried about any of that shit. If I end up going to prison because of information the government fabricated from cell phone calls or internet use by me…..Then you where right.

          • ok. here we go.
            If you want to glaze over this issue as thats just the way things are and you admittingly accept being a caged bird because you are being short sighted about this issue then you are a lost hope.

            Yes I am aware the UK has security cameras on the street. that probably wont do shit besides verifying a victim. think they are going to care much for a masked criminal that they cant id?

            if kids/adults need to be policed regularly to behave as decent moral people, yeah they all belong and deserve the big brother watch. and still that is no gaurantee of any safety.

            if surveillance in attempts to get information …you think the boston bombing, bin laden , ww2 would be prevented? nooo like you said its been happening and more spying especially on your own citizens does nothing but prepping docile people.

            lastly what would i do?? advocate for clean sweep for all the senate and anyone that voted for these legislations especially those who blazzed over the patriot act. pgp encrypt my shit. its a lot of tech issue here.

          • BiggJ

            Let get one thing straight. Are we just talking the America government? Or all governments who have this kind of technology? Say we want to change it. Are you American? let just say we are Americans.We can get a few thousand people together and go tell them to do a clean sweep of the senate. And by some fucking stroke of luck they do it. Who replaces them? The same type of dick heads that was just in there. You tell them to stop spying on you. And they agree to it……..ok…..how do we know they stopped? It’s like if you get caught cheating on your wife, if she takes you back the next time you cheat you be way more careful not to get found out.That teck that they have for spying on you like on facebook, skype, google blah blah most of these companies signed up for this in like 2008. SO they have been doing for at least 5 years. If they want they can tell people they will stop using the program but how will you ever know. They just need to add high security to it to make it undetectable. There are so many things they can do…..no matter how much we don’t like it.
            I don’t like the fact of the whole thing but what can you do to stop them, sure you protest but that never works… And say they honestly stop spying on us. That just leave them open for bull shit from other countries and their own people who wish them harm.

            “if kids/adults need to be policed regularly to behave as decent moral
            people, yeah they all belong and deserve the big brother watch. and
            still that is no guarantee of any safety.”
            Ok let’s take the police off the streets and let people act own their own morals. You ever watch “Mad Max”? That would probably be the outcome. Without law and structure people are retarded. You would have all the people who will do anything to get by I.E rape murder steal…these people would running the show with no law.

            You said you said it don’t prevent anything, well maybe but imagine of nothing was in place…america would be fucked up 10 fold then what they are now. A lot of people hate america, And it’s their own fault…So they need to do something.

            I don’t know, I don’t like it but I can see it changing. If I can live my life how it now even if it is a false sense of freedom…well I’ll take it. It’s like living in the matrix or in the real world….I’ll take the matrix.

          • Germandude

            I think you fail to understand the principle. If you allow your government to spy “a little bit” on you, you are in fact allowing them to spy on you. If in your example, you wipe out the government for doing so, the next government has to be aware that they might get wiped out if they do that again. Of course, they can try to be more careful, but nevertheless, they know that if caught, they probably get wiped out.
            Your statement is a blanko check for any government to do whatever they please and attacking your personal rights which should be supported by the constitution actually.
            It’s amusing and sad that there are so many ignorant people that think it’s okay because “I’ve done nothing wrong”.
            “Land of the free, home of the brave”… It won’t take long until this cardhouse collapses.
            Ignorance at it’s finest.

          • BiggJ

            I understand the principle completely. I’m not saying I like it. Do you think Germany does not do the same thing? They just haven’t been found out like America has. Canada, England, china all these country do the same shit. And have been doing since the invention of the telephone. Maybe not on this scale but technology has changed. Before the Telephone they probably thought the same thing.

            I’m just saying there is nothing much I can do to stop, I know this. Sure maybe there is something I could do, I could quit my job and spend my life picketing and protesting wearing a tin foil hat. I don’t know what that would would accomplish.Thing is about most people is as long as people have food/shelter/protection people will pretty much let the government do what they want. What are you doing to stop this? Are you being all you can be?Are you doing what needs to be done or are just complaining about it? What’s worse? people who know there is nothing they can do to stop it or people who complain and do absolutely nothing. Both are guilty of doing the same thing in the end….nothing.

            I will join the cause once my life get effect by it. When I can’t travel or go sailing when I want,Have a good time and live the life I want to. OK. I will the first in line. It’s not effecting me. Or if it is I can’t tell. I’m too busy doing what I want to do to worry about something I have no power over. I can smash my phones my computers my tv, I can walk around tin foil hat on and be paranoid as fuck all the time and not enjoy my life. Or I can forget about all that and enjoy my life and stop worrying about things that are beyond my control. You say this ignorance at it finest….well true…but ignorance is bliss.

          • Germandude

            “I understand the principle completely. I’m not saying I like it. Do you think Germany does not do the same thing?”

            Again, I am not sure if you actually understand my meaning. But first, towards your question.

            “Do I think Germany does not do the same thing?”

            Yes I do think that the German government, or the BND (Federal Intelligence Service) is not doing the same thing. Innocent until proven guilty. If you are following European politics, you might have come across the problems that European governments have with setting up these kind of projects. There is no such thing as the patriot act, that gives any government a blanko cheque to spy on random people. Any kind of interference with privacy of citizens has to be based on probable cause. Not like some secret police officer coming up with “Well, let’s check Germandude’s porn collection, maybe he got the one movie I miss”… They can only enter your privacy (legally of course) if they suspect you to be involved in terrorism or other high degree crimes. They have to get an allowance from an independant court on this.

            Am I 100% certain that they are doing exactly what the book allows them to do? No, of course not. I cannot guarantee it, but the difference is that they cannot hold any of this against me because it’s an illegal access to information. And of course I am convinced that European governments knew more about that whole PRISM thing than they admit. In fact, they also benefitted from US information on terror acts planned in Europe.

            What you need to ask yourself is how far you want to grant your government the right to control you without you giving up your rights as a free person.

            PRISM is like the wet dream of any Gestapo officer. And this active in the country that calls itself “Land of the free”? And the inhabitants of that country feeling fine with it (I know exaggeration, but the amount of ignorance is stunning)?

            What is utterly disgusting is that the US in the last couple of years, more than ever, was crying about Chinese economical espionage, while in fact, PRISMs main target were industrial areas of Germany. And of course Chinese intelligence.

            I think it’s fair to say that you should be very careful while throwing rocks in a glasshouse.

            If it was up to me and possible to do, I’d give Snowden political asylum, cancel the plans of a free trade zone with the US and focus on political and economical bonds with Russia and China. After all, the US regards Europe as an enemy. With friends like these, you don’t need enemies.

          • BiggJ

            I don’t disagree with you. I just personally don’t bother myself with things that are beyond my reach to change. I don’t support this in anyway. I’m sure 99% of the people in the world don’t like it….but has that stopped it? All you can do is live your life the best you can, try to stay happy and have a good time. Once you start getting into things like this where does it end? I just try not to let stuff like that bother me. That’s all im saying.

            Thing is you say the German government is not spying on you. Well indirectly they are. You use youtube and google and facebook and debit cards cell phones the list goes on and on. Well that information is gathered by that prism thing. And then can let Germany know whats going on if need be. And that would be all the probable cause they needed. Probable cause is just something set up to make people feel they have rights. If they really want to get you for something they can. How hard would it be for the government to get a court order or search warrant or whatever. Would take them 2 seconds if they wanted to. Like I said, I don’t care. I have a good life. If that ever changes because of what is going on then I will care. But until I have a hard time giving a fuck.

            I agree with everything you say. If you can figure out how to stop let me know. Just don’t use cellphones or internet land lines, radio waves….just send me some smoke signals….and even then…who knows they might be watching that too from satellites lol

          • I recommend Joe Rogen’s 2005 i think road comedy. Lets see how stupid people can be by throwing bush in there.not even an actor but a real dumbass and see how it plays out. next….success!! lets get some unknown origin puppet …and got to be electable so lets add color !

          • I would show you the cartoon of the statue being pulled down by the people and in the ground is a nother rising statue. I feel your sentiments that it is very futile and that is because human beings are destructive beings and driven by greed and I think we are all evil to extents. The rise of power wil be undoubtly return but it will be a while just as it takes a fww decades of development and its up to the people to decide if they want to smarten up or be sheepishly lured to being even stupider by accepting the education that is made to dumb people down.

            the existance of power mongering is ancient but we as people had something when the constitution was drafted(assuming we are talking about americans). It is not that nothing is inplace…”freedom” was in place but got overly corrupt.

            Theres something call never giving up for a group of people that believe in freedom, they can at least fight to ppreserve and be a possible seprate state. Knowing how things tend to go vs. just laying out flat to be gutted is a pure display of loss of anything being human, individuality, dignity and you might as well be made soylent green for the sake of everyone else that wants to have any rights.

            its sad that once americans so passively glossed over the patriot act is enought to show the deservance of whats coming. not just the spying issue as this will fuxk up any diplomacy and trade that exists. america already gained its name of world police , but power hunger doesnt end there as its nature… it will be a revolution of either becoming communistic or there may be hope in reform.

            thats why when i said to someone that americans were heading towards socialism with obama, they can call me whatever but I saw this coming. its a great way to develope problems, manipulate the people and come up with a shitty solution of more police less rights. its all the goals of the puppet master. a very long drawn out plans for pinky and the brain.

          • Germandude

            First they came for the communists,
            and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

            Then they came for the socialists,
            and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a socialist.

            Then they came for the trade unionists,
            and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

            Then they came for me,
            and there was no one left to speak for me

          • mr.wiener

            I remember that poem, Who wrote it?

          • Germandude

            Martin Niemöller. He was a priest I think. The poem has many different versions but I think this one is the original 1st version.

          • mr.wiener

            Danke.

          • Germandude

            Oh shit. Ignore my comment, I completely misunderstood your post… While reading your post I overlooked this line:
            “but they do take care of them self’s and dont rely on the state”

            Shame on me…

          • MrT

            no problem my ramblings are difficult to follow most the time.
            ;-)

          • BiggJ

            Who my wife? yeah, well its not like the odds where against me to meet a chinese girl in canada. I never really had anything kind of attraction to asian girls. Just this girl was cool, she just so happen to be asian. And parents where born in china but came to canada 30 years ago or so.

          • MrT

            oh cool.
            I dont mind lots of Chinese, I like being around them.
            What I do hate is lots of pakis and low life scum roaming the streets in the UK, same in Hong Kong.

          • lonetrey / Dan

            Pakistani people in the UK are considered “low life scum”? D:

          • MrT

            no, Pakistanis and low life scum.
            Two types who breed like rabbits then rely on the government to help them live.
            They should have the one child policy forced on them.

          • Wololoo

            “I never really had anything kind of attraction to asian girls.”

            That’s what they all say.

          • BiggJ

            I did word that wrong. i meant I have no preference for asian girls. I never went after them.Color or race means fuck all to me. I like certain physical things about girls. And attitude the biggest thing. Every race of woman on the planet has hot woman. Shit, if there were green woman there would be hot ones. But I have no fetish for any race.

          • mr.wiener

            heh heh!

          • yellow fever bro

          • BiggJ

            Once the name gets changed to Chinada I may have to do something.

        • James

          lol didn’t you marry one? or are you going ashley macisaac up in new skirtland?

          • BiggJ

            Ashley macisaac?? I haven’t heard that name since I was in school. haha

        • C&N

          I’m Australian and I’ve always identified with Canadians as we seem to be two similar multicultural countries where people are friendly, accepting and open minded. You’re a racist shithead that don’t deserve to be a citizen of Canada As for your comments that Chinese are ‘pretty much normal, not causing too much trouble’ and even the other non white races are ‘not too bad’, wtf? What do the local Chinese walk around with pigtails minding their own business or some shit? Which day and age are you living in? Asians make disproportionate contributions – financial and skills, to any foreign country they choose to reside.

          The thing I don’t get is why the hell you’re on this site constantly when you obviously hate the place and its people? You probably have nothing else to do but sit with your fat ass in front of the computer all day scumming off your wife and social handouts. A waste of space in this world. I feel sorry for your wife having to live with a loser like you. Perhaps one day she’ll realise her mistake.

          • wef

            The length and the content of your comment makes you unacceptable to Canada since you are neither friendly, accepting or open-minded. You should both just stop commenting.

        • Dave

          Oh ho!

          I thought that, legally, anyone born in Canada is Canadian? Same as the US?

          If so, any babies born there, even to Chinese parents, would be just as Canadian as you.

          • BiggJ

            They are. But how many of these “chinese” were born in canada? There are lot but immigration has just pick up a lot since 2000 with like 30,000 or 40,000 a year. And that’s fine. I just think it should be equal with the other countries.

            Another thing. I think the country you deal with should have the same thing given to them in the country. For example, Chinese want to come to Canada and live and become citizens and work, fine. But Canadian should get the same treatment in that country. Should be a 2 way street. Not that I would want to be a citizen of china anyway, but fair is fair. For if some reason Canadians cant go to Japan, then Japanese should not be able to come to Canada. Make sense to me.

      • Chris Granzow XI

        Lol. Visit Vancouver.

        • wef

          Lol. Put on a shirt.

          • mr.wiener

            Tee hee!

      • aaaaa

        Malaysia n Singapore need alot of chinese.

    • Jahar

      If I were running China I would come up with an agreement to have a war with India in the Himalayas in winter, and other ways to kill people off.

  • MrT

    The UK should have a one Paki or one low life policy.
    Maybe then it would be a better place to live.
    My gf got two sisters! so great!

    • jm

      I am an English person (white) and I beg you to go out on the streets of Birmingham, Leicester or any other heavily populated Asian areas of my multi-cultural country and voice your nasty little ignorance; I’d give you two minutes before somebody shuts your mouth for you.

      • YourSupremeCommander

        His mouth will be dislocated from his skull.

      • MrT

        yea exactly you just hit the nail on the head.
        They would cut my fucking head off in the street because the British government as lost complete control and shut the mouths of the white people and let the UK be infested with all the wrong people.

        • MrT

          Like that solider the other week going about his own business and he gets is head cut off.
          Thats the people who now roam the streets of the UK with their freedom to do what they want.
          Wake the fuck up and stop listening to that political correct bullshit you have been spoon fed every day of your English sad life.

          • jm

            Yes let’s all vote EDL/BNP, cut ourselves off from the rest of the world and retreat into the Dark Ages when only good white Christian folk could roam the land; all because some criminals happen to be the wrong shade for your liking. Where do you stand on the Irish I wonder? They are white ,and gave us Guinness and potato cakes, but then there is that whole IRA thing they were fond of a few years back; you know, the car/hotel bombs carried out in the name of a conceived notion of religious and cultural superiority.

          • MrT

            wow, British government controlled media really got hold of your ability for free thought.

            I’m in China so need for me to watch what i say in fear of my door being kicked off and locked up for my free thoughts and opinions.

            and good luck with having the same old year after year bullshit choices you have to vote for under the name of free democracy. no other fucker got a chance in the UK because the media make sure of that.

            Also Fuck the IRA, Protestants, BNP , and all the rest of the low life scum. The UK is completely fucked and as been for a long time, a life time of conflict and growing because idiots like you fucking vote the same shit in all the time instead of standing up and voicing your opinions.

            Wake up its the 21st Century and everything is changing and so it should.

          • jm

            your angry disposition and general lack of eloquence made me think you were a 15 year old lad who had perhaps made the mistake of listening to too many of his work-shy father’s drunken ramblings; if you are in China then I assume you are either an adult British IMMIGRANT or a Chinese kid talking out of his arse about things he does not understand. As for the ‘we have free speech in China…’ thing, I will just smile and say “ok cupcake, if you say so.”

          • MrT

            “whatever”

  • Wololoo

    I laughed.

  • BiggJ

    How is this for a new law in china. You need to visit your parents? What will happen if they don’t? How the hell do you enforce that? Like a hot line for elderly to call if you don’t come visit? it should not be a law …just something you should do. it would be like if china had a law that you need to brush your teeth….People should just do it anyway…not enforced by law to do it. And if you don’t want to then oh well.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/02/world/asia/china-elderly-law/index.html?hpt=ias_t2

    • David S.
      • BiggJ

        That’s crazy. So for example The kid lives in Harbin and the parents live in Kunming….and you work in some shitty factory with hardly any time off…..then what do you do? The law is crazy.

        • Raminess

          It might be a way for the government to save money. Make it a law that the kid can fork over the cash in fines and support. Put the financial burden on the child rather than have the elderly lean on the government for money.

          • Jahar

            Except the government does nothing for the elderly.

      • BiggJ

        You know a good idea to make money in china would be to start up retirement homes. You would make a killing, Hire a bunch of chinese woman to work as care givers and pay them peanuts and you rake in all the profits. Give them pretty good service though, the longer they live the longer you get paid. Try to keep them alive as long as you can.1 child policy does have it business opportunities.

    • Regulation to anyrhing especially cultural duties is never good. it is not for the gov to decide.

  • Brett

    There should be a 2-child policy in every country. The world’s population is growing too fast. At least with two children, the population won’t be larger after we’re dead. 2 are enough in most situations.

    There’s some stupid TV show in The States called “17 and counting” or something ridiculous. Are you kidding me? If we want to make a positive change for the future it has to start with our breeding practices.

    • BiggJ

      Why should the rest of world have to do that because of pretty much china and india? The only country that comes close to these 2 are the EU that has 500 million, but that consist of 27 countries then comes america with around 315 million. Just need to knock down India and china buy a few hundred million and the world will be alright.

      • mr.wiener

        In most developed countries the population growth is negative so it is a moot point anyway.
        The juggling act for the world [or these countries anyway] is to lift the standard of living for people so that population growth drops off naturally ,but at the same time be aware of the pollution and consumption costs that will be entailed by these newly rich populations.

        • Mighty曹

          Mr.Wiener, you’re a Mod now? How did that come about? Anyway, congrats! it’s a tough job but enjoy it!

          • mr.wiener

            The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

        • James

          resource grabbing wars by these by these backward nouveau riche nations will help reduce populations too

      • Brett

        I can’t offer a solution that would make everyone happy, but I do propose that a 2-child policy over the next hundred years would reduce the world’s population to “manageable” and is at least twice as favorable as a 1-child policy.

        • BiggJ

          Yeah man it’s hard to make everyone happy and still do what needs to be done. 2 kids are ideal anyway. 1 Leaves too much pressure on that kid to support his parents when they get old. Most people now a day in most countries only have 1 or 2 kids anyway. I rarely hear of people my age having more then 5 kids. My grandparents had 13 kids, but that was different time. I’m not a math whiz, would 2 kids each lower the earth population?

      • Because they are all in the same basket and what other countries are allowed to do will affect the outcome as a whole.

      • James

        if you go by density of population, you’ve got a few that really stick out.Bangladesh,Taiwan, Netherlands, Uk, Flips Japan,etc. to put it in perspective uk (mostly limeyland), it’s smaller than new england and 4x the population

    • Jahar

      Just about every first world country has negative population growth, aside from immigration.

    • EJ

      While that’s a great idea, in countries where 30%-50% of the population is 15 years and younger even if they started to only have one or two kids their populations would at least double due to the sheer number of people in their reproductive ages.

  • Eurotrash

    All these population haters are grossly misinformed. This planet can support even more people. The problems come when we congregate in mega-cities, and some short-sighted idiots polluting our environment; I’m not talking about carbon dioxide.

    • YourSupremeCommander

      The trash from Europe is correct. There are VAST amounts of land on our planet that goes lightly inhabited or completely uninhabited. We humans (most of us) have chosen to congregate into smaller pockets here and there. Even in India and China, you will still find vast and open spaces.

      • India’s wilderness and wildlife habitat is suffering enough as it is. It would be detrimental to develop it and spread people out across it. What in the world are they going to do out there, anyway?

    • The population has tripled in the past 60 years. That means the consumption levels will, in effect, triple. Basically every problem we have today is going to increase with more population. It has nothing to do with congregating in cities. That’s probably better for the environment than spreading everyone out across the land and developing whatever wilderness we have left. The real problems come when you start to consider our current consumption problems and the issues that causes (pollution, food shortages, loss of wildlife habitat, loss of biodiversity, loss of natural resources, climate change, etc) and how it will only increase, never decrease, as the population rises.

      If you have an answer to how the world is just fine with even bigger population of humans…please tell the world, There’s a lot of environmental experts out there who would love to hear it, I’m sure.

      • BiggJ

        You’re right it’s resource thing….The more people there are the less there is for everyone. It’s not a super huge problem now. But left for too long will cause problems.We are already wiping species off the planet as is.

        • Yeah a lot of areas are still a tiny bit sustainable as it is now, but not all. And even then, is it a perfectly fair and balanced distribution of resources? Nope. It would just get worse.

          Quality of living is what is important. That generally leads to a decrease in the population increase levels, as well as better ability to manage and take care of the environment.

      • Also the way we grow our food has diluted the nutrition in crops, rape the soil for quantity to feed the world whilst quality, gm snd all are contributing to where we are now to meet peoples inconsiderate growth.

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    Well I heard there is that MarsOne program, of getting people to settle on Mars…

    Maybe in the future, I dunno, send the surplus population there?

    • YourSupremeCommander

      There’s a new movie coming out about that.

      • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

        Well maybe India can take a few pointers about that. Inspire them to go to space so there’s less competition for the same space on Earth.

        • YourSupremeCommander

          On the contrary, only people with $$$ gets to go in the movie, you need to pay more attention to current pop culture and not wasting so much time posting here like Your Supreme Commander.

  • Dr Sun

    WOW !! didn’t take long for this thread to turn into a myriad of racism, bigotry and the ignorant mouthing off their white supremacist rhetoric.

    • markus peg

      I agree, not just racism but its a high degree of racism, its sick and unacceptable. However your comment would have been better without the addition of “white supremacist rhetoric”

    • MrT

      yea I get that feeling too!

    • Jahar

      I often wonder why it’s okay for Japan to want to stay japanese, korea to stay korean, china to stay chinese, but it’s not okay for european and north american countries to want to stay British/French/German/predominantly white.

      • odjors

        Oh silly,
        didn’t you know asians are taking over the world.

  • YourSupremeCommander

    I have an idea. When people get married, by law they get to fuck only once. If you get pregnant, you have a kid; if you have twins or triplets, god bless you. But if the sperm and the egg don’t make magic, you will be childless. Done, over population problem solved, now when do I go pick up my Nobel Price?

    • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

      That’s not gonna happen. The natural drive for men to stick their ding dong in a cha cha is gonna drive them to do it again, and again and again, even when the ding dong refuses to go ding anymore.

      • YourSupremeCommander

        So how do monks survive? Oh wait, they have butt holes, never mind.

        • James

          they have apprentices, grasshopper

          • Mighty曹

            Cain, you mussa chooose.

          • James

            oops i dropped the pea, grasshopper will you kindly pick it up lol

          • Mighty曹

            Yes, Master. Just do not allow me to meet the same fate as Cain did in a Bangkok hotel room.

        • Mighty曹

          They just beat the drums.
          *Have you heard of the ‘Monk beats drum’ joke?

          • I can assume but I want to know.Do tell.

          • Mighty曹

            In a monastery the head monk, nearing death, prepares to pick a successor whose mind is pure and free from lusts. He thought of a clever way.

            He asked all the candidates to assume the Lotus position in a circle. Next he had one drum placed directly in front of each monk. He then closed his eyes and gave the command to ‘Begin!’. Out came young girls dancing into the circle. With each sway of their bodies a piece of clothing comes off.

            Soon, each monk’s erection hit his drum with each throb to make a sound. At first with dull thuds that quickly turned into full edged booming. Being very disappointed the Head Monk slowly walks around the circle. Almost at the end he stops at one monk as he heard no sound of the drum at all. With a smile and faith restored he knows he’s found his replacement. He opens his eyes to congratulate the monk but was shocked to learn why there was no sound. The monk’s penis has penetrated the drum and was actually lifting it up and down.

          • markus peg

            sounds like a great party, can non monks attend.
            can keep score and time it to see who comes 1st 2nd and 3rd

          • Mighty曹

            The only non monks would be the dancing girls. :p

    • Mighty曹

      Just a ‘one shot’ deal? Sounds promising but that’s too strict. You pick up the Prize after you invent a spermicide drug that activates after the first jizz load.

    • BiggJ

      You can pick up the prize from the horny mob who’s last time they fucked was on their wedding day. I’m sure they will be happy to see you. hhaaha

    • Raminess

      I say go the Ron White route.

      Invent a pill that makes semen taste like chocolate. There will be a lot more swallowers and less babies born because of it.

  • Mighty曹

    Most older family planning posters feature a ‘boy’ so I’m curious as to how new (or old) the story photo is.

    • James

      maybe an attempt to play on the preferred male offspring role as also an effective way of reducing population by an unbalanced male female ratio. hell, bring in foreigners let them take women less people to feed down the road.

      • Mighty曹

        That’s right. That’s why I wanted to know when that poster came into being. I’m willing to bet it’s from recent years.

  • James

    I wonder what the demographics on East Asian people are over all, I know white people are a dying breed Europe & the Anglozone of N America are reproducing themselves out of existence, while near easterners, blacks,latin Americans tend to be growing, hence the need to import turks to keep der fatherland strong or open borders to former sweaties & keep the UK or France running.

  • Chris Granzow XI

    1 out of every 5 people in this world is Chinese. Almost every city in the world has a Chinese diaspora community. Do you really need more? Get a hobby or something. They talk about the population & resource problem in the world and then the only countries that actually listen and control themselves are western countries. Russia, the largest country on Earth, only has a population of 143m. Bangladesh has more than that is only about the size of Iowa. China and South Asia are the absolute worst population offenders (along with some African countries like Nigeria and Ethiopia).

    • James

      gotta disagree, china is an empire made out of several nations, as is india. the fact some ‘chinese’ want to delude themselves into believing they’re one people is up to them but you can’t compare them to a european country unless it’s some empire

      • hess

        You can compare it to Russia, just like Chris did.

      • Chris Granzow XI

        The Han chinese are predominant. Even taking into account the few minorities that do exist or existed in the past (Manchus, Uighurs, Mongolians, etc.) the Hans make up more than 95%. Europe is filled with “several nations,” even more so than China, yet they don’t make up 1/5th of the worlds population.

        • mr.wiener

          The “Han” are a myth. Really for the most part we are talking about low land Chinese who were given a single idea and central power.
          Damn you Chin Shi Huan.

          • Eidolon

            People who share a single idea about their identity are… An ethnicity.

            No people in the world is of homogeneous descent. Yet, that does not stop them from being peoples. The myth you’re talking about is the myth of all nations.

            The Han are no greater myth than the French.

            By stating that he cares Chinese make up 1/5th of the world while Europeans do not, he’s already shown himself to be an European nationalist at heart, because only nationalists feel threatened by the demographic rise of other nations.

            What matters to such people is the rise of the Other; whether Chinese are one nation / a collection of nations is completely irrelevant because to European nationalists, Chinese are ever going to be the Other.

  • willie miller

    I think the only hope for the future is to have good enough education (not just propaganda or indoctrination) so people realise the benefits of having a small family, for themselves, their children and society as a whole. Highly educated people tend to be less superstitious and less religious also, that would help with family size.

    The other hope is that standard of living increases to a level where people can be confident their children will live to adulthood, this would decrease the need they feel to have so many children.
    Oh, and the catholic church continuing to preach that using birth control is wrong doesn’t help, if they insist on Africans having so many kids the least they could do is sell a few paintings and buy food for them with the proceeds.

  • weh

    The Chinese community curses it, and Fauna, with a wagging tail, reports it faithfully to the laowai.

  • 剑胆琴心

    hate people born many kids most.
    should kill them first once the world can not take so big population.

    • Germandude

      How is your pregnancy coming along?

      • 剑胆琴心

        none your business, fuck off!

        • Germandude

          Wow, I just kindly asked…

          • BiggJ

            Yikes, better not ask how her day is going either. haha

          • mr.wiener

            Touchy subject apparently.

  • 剑胆琴心

    shit!
    i hate stupid village people must have a boy. what the fuck they have to transfer to their sons? broken house and some fields.dumb as shit!

    i dislike boys so much, i only want girl,thank goddess, at this point, my hubby and i have the same opinion!

  • Marvinho

    Agree with the below. Policies for population control have not been done well to say the least but the comments in reaction to this story are worrying. None of those comments seem to suggest any acknowledgement that there is a problem with population in China (and I personally think that the distribution not population argument is bullshit). Chinese students ramble on about the environment like it’s some new original fad, but they don’t see the hypocrisy in striving for less population control at the same time. You want to have a few kids as opposed to one and you think that’s somehow going to save electricity and decrease waste?

    I get that it’s about the right to have more than one and having the option open to you, I just don’t think Chinese people get that.

  • linette lee

    Why China Chinese are so into having so many kids? The Chinese in TW and HK don’t want to have any kids. No space and money to raise them. Everything is so expensive.

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