Fish Leong Thanks President Xi Jinping for Praise & Recognition

Chinese President Xi Jinping and wife Peng Liyuan arriving in Malaysia by plane.

From NetEase:

Fish Leong Praised by Xi Jinping, Thanks National Leader for His Admiration

Malaysian singer Fish Leong

CNR October 5th report — [Chinese President] Xi Jinping addressed the October 4th overseas Chinese welcome luncheon saying, “It has been 21 years since my last visit to Malaysia. It makes me feel nice and warm to be here again… The beautiful island Pulau Redang and delicious frozen durian are widely loved in China, and Malaysian singer Fish Leong is well-known in China, being mistaken as Chinese by many Chinese fans.”

In response, Fish Leong posted [on Sina Weibo] that day thanking Xi Jinping for his recognition, saying that she would carry on singing more good songs for everyone. She said, “Here I want to thank national leader Mr. Xi for his praise and recognition. Little Leong will carry on singing more good songs for everyone in my singing career.”

At time of translation, Fish Leong’s Sina Weibo post had been reshared over 60k times and upvoted over 75k times with over 40k comments.

Comments from NetEase

喂奶的孩子 [网易云南省玉溪市网友]:

Einstein and Oppenheimer are well-known to the German people…

网易山西省晋城市网友:

Oh?! Fish Leong is not Chinese? I just learned that.

网易广东省肇庆市网友:

Liang Jingru (Fish Leong), famous Chinese language female singer, born in Malaysia, ancestral hometown in Shunde, Foshan.

wuguoxuo [网易湖南省株洲市网友]:

Lots of pressure on the director of the Spring Festival Gala now. If there is no performance by Leong now, think just how much scolding he’ll get! What may not have been a household name, will now be one!

Comments on Sina Weibo:

@我只能为你画一张小小的卡片: I was telling a friend that Fish Leong comes from Malaysia and he was saying she’s from Taiwan when some dude next to us suddenly excitedly said, “What!? You guys don’t even know where Fish Leong is from? She’s from Ningxia! Have you guys never heard her song ‘Ningxia’?” [‘Ningxia’ is a famous song by Fish Leong meaning “peaceful summer”, which also happens to be an autonomous region in northern China.]

@超完美乐飞: Fish Leong’s 2014 fresh new album “Fish & Patriotic Songs”. Tracks 01.The patriotic song didn’t tell you 02. Shining red star 03. Unconditionally for the motherland 04. The long march road 05. From Ningxia 06. Love the motherland for more than a couple of days 07. Gaining a Chinese heart after loving long 08. Breathing Diaoyu Island 09. Today’s National Day 10. Patriotic song feat.Party Queen [Revised from original songs by Fish Leong: 01. The love song didn’t tell you 02. Shining star 03. Unconditionally for you 04. The silk road 05. Ningxia 06. Love you for more than a couple of days 07. Looking through a heart after loving long 08. Breathing pain 09. Today’s Valentine’s Day 10. Love song]

@我们生来偏执: Stephanie Sun, Fish Leong, Michael Wong, Victor Wong/Pin Kuan, JJ Lin, Penny Tai and so on… None of these singers are Chinese. How many people know that?

@天涯社区: Early in the morning Fish Leong made all the headlines. The female singer from Ningxia province is even more popular now. I am also a big fan of Leong’s. My favorite song is ‘Ningxia’, followed by ‘Sadly, it’s not you’. Least favorite is ‘Happy breakup’ [‘Happy ending’]: How could an breakup be happy? I really want to know which song is the leader’s favorite…

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  • 龙哥

    ‘t seems like a cunning way to implement soft power in SE Asia…

    • MrC

      better then this thou yea?

      • TheSOP

        Thats the navy protecting SE Asia from Sino-Imperialists. Hell when even the Vietnamese are welcoming the Americans you know China is despised widely in the region.

        • MrC

          not because Vietnam got a shit load of black gold off its coast?
          The reason for Americas involvement in the Vietnamese war.
          .

          • TheSOP

            Yea its allllll for the oil -yawn- you aren’t too savvy on East Asian geopolitics are you? You know the US is now the world’s largest producer of oil an gas? You think we care about some little fields in the SCS? No its China that wants to steal the lands and seas of others to rob them of their resources. Then it acts like a child when the US says no. Cry me a river.

          • MrC

            yea you’re right I’m just some little dumb fuck who knows nothing like the great people of America.
            Thank you America for making everyone lives so great, but mainly your own.
            (well not now, looks pretty fucked to be American right now, probably why so many come China)

          • TheSOP

            You are welcome and acknowledging your own ignorance is a good first step, now go read a book.
            BTW take a look at the numbers comparing Chinese applying for a US visa and Americans applying for a PRC visa… which country “looks pretty fucked” by your 5th grade logic now?

          • MrC

            your correct again, should i stfu?

          • TheSOP

            I won’t stop you friend. But please feel free to drop the number of American vs China visa numbers to validate your position if you feel inclined.

          • MrC

            be even less come here now after the Visa changes..
            So great!

          • TheSOP

            Personally I’m not in a hurry to go back, so many other nice places in East Asia that don;t have toxic air, gutter oil in all the food, melamine in the milk, or brainwashed masses of insecure overcompensating fenqings who know nothing about the US or Asia but like running their mouths about it nonetheless…. nawww I’ll stick with free Asia. But I’ll still visit China from time to time, at my leisure of course. Of course there is always Taiwan if I want a taste of Chinese culture without the dis-civilization of the PRC, visa on arrival for their good friends the Americans :)

          • Warlock

            That might change once china sets up more SEZ’s inside the USA.

          • Germandude

            So help us out here. The US truely went to e.g. Iraq to spread freedom and democracy?

          • TheSOP

            Well lets ask the opposite question: Did the US go to Iraq for oil? There is data on production and if that was the motivating factor the US didn’t get a very good return on investment.

            I think you are underestimating the sheer idiocracy and misguided idealism of the neo-conservatives in the Bush Jr Admin 2000-2006 (realists took hold after 2006, Condi Robert Gates etc). Common these are the people who thought there would be parades as the US entered.

          • Germandude

            Did the US go to Iraq for oil?

            Not primarily, no.

          • TheSOP

            I think it was part of a mixed bag of reasons that were flawed a proved a disaster for both the US and Iraq:

            -Iraq’s oil, certainly made the proposition more appealing especially since so many of the Bush Admin’s members were ex-oilmen

            -Send a message to Iran and establish a US presence between Israel and Iran. Bald faced realpolitik.

            -Misguided idealism that they could export American style democracy, grafting it onto a culture they knew nothing about instead of letting it grow organically

            And probably a lot more, but people generally try to pigeonhole it to fit their world view of either a predatory imperialist US intent of raping non-Westerners for their natural resources or the good but naive US that just wanted to bring down an evil dictator and help an oppressed people. Truth is shades of grey of course.

          • Germandude

            Agreed with the addition of money, money, money, money and more money being shifted from the tax-payers into the pockets of the businessess involved.

          • TheSOP

            Won’t disagree on that…. which makes all these Tea Partier crying that Obama is the worst president ever and corrupt, leading America to disaster all the more ridiculous. Its like they have the memory span of a 2 year old.

          • Warlock

            The thing is are things any better under Obama. The economy surely seems to be in shit street. He gets all the credit for killing Bin Laden, but that was really nothing to get worked up about. The Pentagon tells him they have him,he can either blow him and his relatives up, or send the special forces in and pop him up and identify him better. Personally, I would have preferred the first way, do to him, what he and his followers do to others, but the last way gives more chance of ID’ing his face. Obama himself did not go in there with night vision goggles and a automatic rifle, why does he get so much credit for that? Add in worsening relations with China, when many thought he would improve them, and the racial divides back in the US, and well, I just think he has done more harm than good, and only brought change to uppity elements, like the occupy movement, bleeding workshy troublemakers.

          • Germandude

            Hah. Republicans are indeed simple-minded. The same goes for the voters of Merkel in Germany (in a lesser extreme though).

          • linette lee

            You want me to free you??

          • Germandude

            What’s your problem, seriously?

          • Warlock

            You know the US is now the world’s largest producer of oil

            I thought Russia was potentially the largest, and Venezuala is currently one of THE largest. As for Gas, isn’t it the Emirates or Russia that has the biggest reserves? Nothing personal mind, just curious on?

          • TheSOP

            I don’t know if it is a badge to be proud of but yes we will be #1 in pumping global warming out of the ground: http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/10/07/world_s_leading_oil_gas_producer_us_passes_russia_under_obama_administration.html

          • linette lee

            Venezuala has oil natural resources. Aren’t they supposed to be a rich nation? Why their economy is so fxcked up? If their gov’t know what the hxll they are doing they can easily be a very very rich nation.

          • Warlock

            True. It worked for the UAE, but I’d guess that was good governance left by the british in the form of the trucial states, and a good strategic location to get all that energy out to the world.

        • linette lee

          ……….China is despised widely in the region……

          If SE Asian hate China Chinese so much why so many SE Asians marry to Chinese?? I don’t think they hate China or Chinese. Just look at the number of marriages in those SE Asia between Chinese and SE asians.
          The chinese take good care of the SE asians wives and provide them well financially. It’s not like they fxck the SE Asian women and left them denying their own children.

          So keep hating China and well come America. lol.

          • TheSOP

            Depends on the country of course, I’d say Thais are the most open to Chinese but ethnic Chinese already have a huge footprint in Thailand. In Malaysia and Indonesia the tensions are palpable. Vietnam, despised. Philippines not so sure but I;m guessing they are not so welcome. Singapore, business welcome but Mainlanders themselves are looked down upon and not welcomed even by ethnically Chinese Singaporeans. Laos and Cambodia I;m not so sure, although Chinese are pretty much taking over Laos, they will be Southern Yunnan soon if they don’t be careful.

            The sure thing is that China is not winning any popularity contests in SE Asia, Japan is far ahead, as is the US.

            As for your insinuation about impregnating and leaving SE Asian wives, you’d have to expand on that as your point is not clear. There are plenty of Chinese who treat their foreign wives great just as I am sure there are plenty who treat them as rubbish.

          • linette lee

            Funny, I don’t get that feeling with Indonesians, Thai, Malaysians, Philippines when me and my Chinese friends are around them here in USA. They are very friendly and love anything that’s Chinese like chinese food, Chinese girls or chinese guys. I like their food a lot too and the thai-chinese mixed guys are good looking. I guess nations they have tensions between each other, but their people they get along with no problem. Like Japan and China have lots of issues but the Japanese and Chinese get a long in a community with no problem. I know two Chinese guys married to both Philippines girls. Very nice couples.
            Also if sE Asians hate Chinese so much in those SE countries, why most of their celebrities they put on their TV are part Chinese?

          • TheSOP

            True, of course if you see Asians in the US they have Asian unity clubs and other fantastical invention that we who actually live out here know are constructivist non-sense. People behave differently when suddenly they are in a foreign country and the common denominator is that you come from Asia… trust me I’ve lived in those environments for awhile and observed the group dynamics. But it is much more nuanced and the linkages are actually a bit superficial.

            Return to Asia on the other hand and go to Indonesia. I am just telling you my observations from having lived in these different countries, studied the history, and followed the local news. You will see a lot of tension. Thailand is the big exception I think, even the King’s family has some Chinese blood and the country has so many “luk-jin” (mixed Thai-Chinese) that it has become fairly well integrated although the disproportionate economic and political power of the Sino-Thais has contributed to the domestic instability over the past 10 years (the majority of the electorate is much less wealthy and less mixed ethnically than the BKK Sino-Thais).

            As for celebs, Chinese or mixed ethnicity locals tend to have lighter skin which makes them “more appealing” for the media. Same with mixed White-Asians you will find a disproportionate representation in the media.

            The politics is messy and has a long history. China was the original imperialist of the region long before the Western barbarians came along, other East Asians haven’t forgotten this, and China’s arrogant and aggressive behavior only serves as a reminder.

          • linette lee

            aggressive behavior……….

            WWII
            Tell that to Japan. lol. They were aggressive in Asia now they have amnesia. lol

            Vietnam war
            Tell that to USA. I love you long time babe and see ya so long…..lol

          • TheSOP

            Reaching decades back aren’t you? Chinese arent ones to lecture others on amnesia, Chinese are the least honest about their own history in all of Asia, hands down… ok I take that back North Korea holds that title, but I guess that just illustrates the company that the PRC keeps.

            But what is more telling is that Japan and the USA, despite their many sins, are still more welcomed in SE Asia than China. What does that tell you?

          • linette lee

            I don’t know why. I don’t live in those SE Asia countries. Maybe because Chinese affect their economies a lot more than Japan and USA. Don’t Chinese create jobs when they open so many businesses? Some of them even marry to the locals.
            So tell me why those SE Asia countries hate China/Chinese so much when some of them are part Chinese and have mixed kids already.

            Japan is more honest than China. lol.. That is a good joke.
            You think USA folks behave very well in SE asia countries? lol.
            What will happen if Japan or USA invest more money into those SE Asia countries and start having more businesses there. You think it will be better than Chinese? The Japanese probably won’t even allow them to eat in the same restaurants as them. lol.
            Also I think Chinese are the least racist compare to other Asians. 52 ethnic groups inside China and the China gov’t don’t allow racial conflicts. China gov’t will tell you they are all Chinese. The China gov’t want to assimilate everyone to riots. lol.

          • linette lee

            to avoid riots.

          • TheSOP

            SE Asians know one thing for sure: Japan and the USA aren’t coming to take their lands or their seas. China already has and is aiming to take even more. Go ahead and tell me the 9 Dash map is any thing other than an imperialist land/sea grab. China is an imperialist plain and simple. The US and Japan, whatever their own history and difficulties confronting their histories have no such designs. And SE Asians know this.

            As for US behavior in SEA, and the individual level I think it is quite good. I have seen more Chinese tourist acting boorishly out here than Americans, that is for sure.

            But I think the main qualm is less with individual Chinese and more with the imperialist designs of the Chinese state.

            As for your rather biased view of the Japanese, I just had dinner tonight at a restaurant that had Japanese, SE Asians and of course this vanilla face. Japanese get alogn well with the locals and from my experience everywhere in SE Asia people have a higher opinion of the Japanese than the Chinese, by leaps and bounds. Have you never even visited the region?

          • linette lee

            Are there lots of Japanese in SE Asia compare to Chinese? I doubt that. Are there lots of Japanese owned and run by Japanese businesses in SE Asia? It’s different when all you see is a few Japanese. They are not that visible or have any influence. Tell the SE Asians to live in Japan then we can talk. lol.
            And yes, Some Chinese are louder and more rude and annoying. Japanese are more quiet and better manners and often don’t show their true feeling as much. If you think that means Japanese are better people I will just smile. What can I tell you. :)

          • TheSOP

            You’ve lived in Japan? How long? You speak any Japanese?

            I can tell you from talking with literally hundreds of people in SE Asia over there years, the vast majority express a more favorable opinion of Japan than China. You can insinuate that Japanese are all closet racists or whatever it doesn;t change what I’ve heard. And Chinese talk tons of racist crap about SE Asians; Filippinos are jungle monkeys only fit for farming bananas, Thais are all prostitutes etc…. common Linette you think I’ve never been on the Chinese internet? I’ve seen your countrymens dirty laundry, it aint pretty.

          • linette lee

            And you read Japanese? YOu go on the Japanese internet?

          • TheSOP

            Not as much as the Chinese internet.

          • linette lee

            You shouldn’t trying to paint Chinese as anti-SE asia. You will get the Chinese killed in those countries. They are still minority. And that will hurt SE Asia countries economy when Chinese start moving out.

          • TheSOP

            I’m only repeating what I’ve seen on the Chinese internet. Besides I don’t promote an anti-Chinese agenda while I’m out here, I prefer to listen to what people have to say rather than tell them what to think. I do strongly disagree with China’s current imperialist path and I have no qualms agreeing with those that raise the issue. But I also practice Chinese with some of the locals who may be studying the language and encourage them to learn more. My issue is with the PRC government and its policies, not ethnic Chinese people… hell I sympathize with their situation in places like Indonesia. Sanlu drinking fenqing bots on the other hand, I despise them as much as I do American teabaggers or left wing American Chomsky quoting Marxists.

          • linette lee

            Well you keep saying Chinese are hated in those countries and blablabla.
            I am not saying China is right trying to claim lands. Unfortunately many neighboring nations have disputes over lands and seas. Look at Japan, China, and Korea constantly fighting over some stupid islands. That is just the gov’t. So much problems.

          • TheSOP

            I said China is disliked throughout the region because of its imperialist agenda and arrogance towards other Asian states. Some have conflated Chinese people, whether citizens or ethnically Chinese, with the Chinese state, not me. That is a more nuanced topic and I have pointed out what I have seen between Sino-local relations which are in fact often rather tense but can also be relatively harmonious (as far as human relations go)… sorry there is no sugar coating that.

            But I think the breadth of China’s claims to the lands and seas of others is quantitatively and qualitatively different from those of say Japan or Vietnam. When taken in whole China’s claims are nothing less than unbridled imperialism, where as Japan has a spat over some minor islands. You can’t compare the two since the scales are completely different, as is the pseudo historical basis employed by the Chinese state.

          • whuddyasack

            But you can insinuate that Chinese are racists right? Without proof. No you haven’t been on the Chinese internet or even lived in China or any part of Asia.

            Most Chinese are quite ignorant about SEAsians, and don’t call Thais prostitutes. However, Chinese have been called slit eyed mongoloids, cons, money greedy, cunning, ugly, gooks, half-japs, rats, stupid, fakes, polluters, imperialists, commies, flat faced, chinks, cruel, women haters, small dicks, small breasts, fetus eaters, (Insert Chinese country) bitches, raped whores, corrupt, devils, dogs, prostitutes, cowards, wimps and sluts by just about everybody including Americans. I even linked you what the other creep typed.

            Rather than take it personally and crying racist, I wear this like a badge of honor because we’re the ONLY people to be hammered with this much abuse when all others would have died in the filth. However, most people my age don’t and this clearly is hurtful for the younger boys and girls.

          • Alice S

            I swear East Asiatics, regardless of whether they are Chi or not, face problems because of their East Asiaticness. CEA and Gentleman’s Agreement 1907? Japanese senior citizens being shot NEAR American Internment Camps. Japanese internment camps up and down the Americas when Germans and Italians walk free… The biggest fault of the Japanese ethnicity is resembling Chi in many ways… … Thanks to their looks Godly people don’t have to worry about the Japanese. Heaven will take care of them. :)

          • whuddyasack

            “everywhere in SE Asia people have a higher opinion of the Japanese than the Chinese, by leaps and bounds.”

            Well, that’s a rather unfair statement given the fact that people everywhere including the US have a higher opinion by leaps and bounds of the Japanese than Americans, Greeks, Romanians, Brits, Kiwis, Canadians, Swedes, Fins, Russians, Portuguese, Spanish, Africans and so forth. Only Germany comes close and only because Germany doesn’t have the same sigma Japan does.

            As for attacking the Chinese state, I don’t know about you but this seems like an attack on the individual to me (booger eaters like that don’t really affect me, just wanted to bring it up for effect):

            I don’t like chinese people, why?

            1. They are ridiculously ugly.

            2. Most ugliest language on earth is chinese!

            3. China is a typical low-IQ society.

            4. Chinese are an inferior race! who bowed to their master race Bolsheviks. They were slaves of the Mongolians for centuries, then were enslaved by the British (Opium Wars), French (Shanghai), Portuguese
            (Macau), Americans (KMT), Soviet Russians(Communism) and Japanese (liberator of Asia from western colonialism).

            5. Chinese are communist imperialists.

            6. China has been ranked as one of the most corrupt nations in the world.

            7. China is the world’s worst polluter .

            8. Chinese people are negligent, relaxed, incompetent, dirty,
            immoral, atheists and materialistic. Worse than Latin americans and some
            Africans.

            There’s no hope for Chinese people in the future.

            P.S. Despite the stereotypes I prefer Japanese to White people and so do many Chinese as do Whites. The saddest reality is seeing your “enemy” (as reported in all media) show better form and prove more of a friend than people who claim to be friends and fighting for Chinese freedom.

            For all your constant praising, tooling and comparisons of Japanese against Chinese, you really should learn a thing or two from them.

          • Warlock

            The Japanese can’t actually claim superiority, despite being the most arrogant race of people on the earth. Most of their tech was copied, and China has actually produced more decent stuff than them in years. South korean stuff is even better, and they are also a horrible xenophobic nation which is up there with Iran, North Korea and Japan to be avoided. No, life in China is just fine and the beer is cheap, and I needn’t shave for classes and can dress casual. You can keep the Peoples Republic of Racist Japan, I’m quite happen in Peoples Beer Republic, heehaw heehaw.

          • whuddyasack

            Is that you, dear boy? Imma fan. My sympathies to what Britain and Ireland are going through. You guys don’t deserve crazed Jihadi terrorists, no one does. Including Chinese (please understand).

            See here, you misunderstand me. I never claimed anybody was superior to anybody and never even mentioned the Japanese bragging. What I said was that the country deserves it’s popularity. Like us, they favor modesty and have what we call a silent, inner pride. That’s unique because being proud yet not boastful is a quality ONLY Japanese and Chinese possess AFAIK. The truly proud and truly great don’t need to talk about themselves, others do it for them. And certainly don’t feel the need to tell the rest of the world how great we are, though that aura of greatness is difficult to hide. That higher plane of thinking is strangely absent amongst the numerous White populations of the world, although they like to brag about being related to Japanese, and being the pinnacle of morality, bla bla bla haha.

            I might be proud of who I am, but even I’m not actually deluded enough to suggest China has produced more decent stuff than the Japanese in years. What are these better productions? BTW, they once again won the “European” award as having the world’s most advanced cars.

            Japan is very tolerant. China, Singapore and Taiwan are also tolerant.

            While in my eyes, characteristically Japanese and Chinese aren’t too different besides being modern and provincial, there are things I think Chinese can do well to emulate the Japanese in. I like the concept of stricter immigration policies and having the balls to deport, stand against and cut off whole services to foreigners who commit crimes and cause trouble. Too many illegals, pedophiles, rapists and criminal fugitives running here. 6 million people from USA/Europe/Britain in China vs maybe 1 million Chinese nationals in the US means China is doing something wrong here. Ever wondered why most foreign expats hold their tongue there and not in say, China and even SK, Taiwan, Sg ? It’s because such deviant groups are rightfully smacked down and shut up like they should be.

            I also wished Chinese gained more confidence, adhered to higher quality and safety and have enough pride to develop and use local products only. Ipads, Iphones, Fords, Hollywood movies and Western pop stars don’t hold a candle to local ones and fare horribly when compared to the successes they enjoy in China. It’s time Chinese develop the same mentality and produced their own milk, followed safety regulations and scrap products such as toxic New Zealand milk and GM rice from the US.

            Only when you start having respect for yourself and each other, and only when you show assertiveness do you start to go forward. And that will in turn benefit everyone, including yourself.

          • Warlock

            Is that you, dear boy? Imma fan. My sympathies to what Britain and Ireland are going through

            No sympathy needed, but I’m also a fan young lad and you are a lad.

          • Scada

            Racism in Korea, China, Japan

            Most Racist and xenophobic? Numbers reveal the truth

            Japanese people in South Korea: 28,000
            Koreans in Japan: 901.284

            Japanese people in China: 60,000
            Chinese people in Japan: 687.156

            Indonesians in China?

            Filipino people in China?

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_Japan

          • Scada
          • Somchai

            Hi Linette, I am Thai and we have no problems whatsoever with Chinese. In fact, most urban Thais like me have pure or part Chinese blood. My skin is very dark so you would not believe me to be a Chinese descendant but one of my grandfathers was from Guangdong and married my grandmother who was half-Chinese. My mother’s side of the family is native though so that is why I am so dark! Don’t listen to stupid whites/farang here saying we hate China that is not true at all. I think if you travel to Bangkok you will feel very comfortable and people will assume you are Thai as long as you are Asian. We actually are racist to ourselves because we treat light skin Thai-Chinese mix better than normal dark skin Thais.

          • Middle_Kingdum

            Well, that’s kind of stupid, isn’t it?

          • Guy Fawkes

            I agree. The Thais I met are nice.

          • Warlock

            Don’t they have a reputation as being cheaters also?

          • Joseph Lau

            Don’t we all have?

          • Guy Fawkes

            Well, there are all sorts of bad people from all ethnicities, nationalities and religion backgrounds. But I found out most of them are nice.

          • Warlock

            Don’t listen to stupid Thais who say that their royal family is unique, and farang (foreigners) can’t understand things like Thai Boxing, as you have to be born there to understand it. Sounds familiar to another part of the world? Anyone…Anyone??

          • Somchai

            Please come to Thailand and say that and we will be happy to throw you in prison. Many farang in jail, the Thais love white meat

          • Warlock

            Yeah, perhaps innocently accused. Don’t portray yourselves as benevolent and harmless, I read the irishmans account where his thai wife cheated him out of his bail money, after her family screwed him over. Grow up and piss off!!!!!!

          • TheSOP

            Sure “Somchai”.,, You have poor reading comprehension dont you.

          • linette lee

            Chinese are still minority in those SE asia countries. I do believe they get picked on also so I can understand why Chinese like to stay within their community. Any countries you go to the minority are at disadvantage and get picked on and targeted. In USA, Chinese get picked on also because they only make up like I think 5% of the whole USA population. But to say the locals hate Chinese and China is a bit too strong. I also knew those SE Asia countries had
            riots and killed destroyed Chinese and their businesses back then, but I think now the situation is better. Countries that’s multiracial they will always have struggle for power between racial groups in the political system in gov’t.

          • TheSOP

            I clearly pointed out that the situation is quite different from country to country. As I said Thais are quite welcoming to most Western and Northeast Asian people (they tend to look down on other SE Asians outside Singapore, to call someone a Lao is pretty much an insult in the Thai language). I have talked to many Vietnamese on the other hand, including some living in China, who have nothing but contempt for the Chinese. In Indonesia I have talked with both Sino-Indonesians and local Java people, there is animosity on both sides, just look at the anti-Chinese pogroms when Suharto fell in the late 1990s, that was some nasty terrible violence against the Chinese.

            Chinese in the US have it damn well. Of course I’m not an ABC but I’d say there position is far better than that of any non-Chinese in China… but woe be unto those who stand between Chinese and their victim complex :P What anti-Chinese actions have you been the victim of while in the US?

          • Just another Nguyen

            We don’t hate the Chinese, it is them they hate us. They bully Vietnam and try to steal our land that is why we are so angry. I am actually a quarter Chinese (mother’s father). My grandfather born in Vietnam but ethnic Hoa and grew up in Cholon (Chinatown). If China wants to be more popular they should stop bullying smaller countries. I never tell people I am part-Chinese because it is so shameful to be a descendant of such monsters.

          • Mohamed

            Chinese people are racist and unscrupulous, fact.

          • Mohamed

            Chinese-Americans tarnish the image of Asians in the Western societies. Fact.

          • mr.wiener

            All Chinese-Americans?

          • Alice S

            Heaps of non-Chi people face problems thanks to their appearance and other things. Not even White people are spared. I have a personal story. Once a upon a time there was Teacher Sunshine and Teacher Flower. This did not happen in CH, by the way. Teacher Flower, who was S’s boss, happened to walk into the classroom when F was teaching. S said innocently, ‘Look, a Chi person.’ F was of a European background. You can’t go around saying Europeans have a teeny weeny bit of Chinese blood can you… Afterwards a girl pupil said, ‘Miss, is Teacher F Chinese?’ ‘No. I just said that because she has walked in the door.’ Afterwards Teacher Sunshine gets angry EVERY TIME she comes across Teacher Flower. Once she literally shooed her away.

          • mr.wiener

            Too bad they aren’t understanding and moderate like you hmm?

          • whuddyasack

            Well, then that’s deplorable since I’ve yet to see Chinese hatred for Viets in real life. Vietnamese restaurants are first choice amonst many international students and there’s one in town which is popular amongst both Chinese and Japanese. No fighting there, don’t worry. Most Viets I know have been friendly. What’s written online is unsavory (hint, hint).

            Most Chinese have great respect and warm feelings for Thais and don’t have ill feelings towards “Whites”.

            I read about the Indonesian riots and that was horrible. When I learnt about this, I could understand why Chinese-Indons/Malays were unnaturally grateful to where they were at. Well, funny thing was most people seemed to think Chinese were at fault and deserved it.

            But the US ain’t such a paradise for the Chinese/Asians after all. There are similar places with higher living standards and far less “wacism” than the US. I don’t live there but I know friends who do and those that experienced real discrimination =). Westerners have it good in China, you don’t get random hoons coming to beat and rob you into a coma, like in France. Hey, she deserved it ya know? At least that’s what they say. You don’t get stalked, tortured, raped and murdered brutally and have everyone trying to cover it up. You don’t get brutally bashed with a baseball bat or gangbanged, stereotyped in the media and have sites and sites of ugly “nationalistic roaches” “racially” bashing you even if scientifically proven to be much worse. You don’t get mocked and bullied to death for serving your country, having been born there for generations. No siree, great Laowai truly respect Chinese culture, speak Chinese very good. Very, very good. Chinese compliment you even if what you say sounds like ching chong chang ting long.

            I mean some guy wrote a whole paragraph about why he hated those “inferior” Chinese who he’s so jelly of, and every internet site regarding Chinese, every moderate newsgroup has thousands of comments hating on Chinese, and wishing for their extinction. Worry not, nature will take it’s toll. Mongoloids grow slowly and are less productive and have very weak genetics.

            And oh yes, woe be unto those Chinese who make a stand for their fellow man/woman, but woe to them if they don’t :P

          • Alice S

            In the past, if someone was saved from human trafficking, they would like to serve the person for their entire life… http://www.peranakan.org.sg/2012/08/cherita-rumah-tangga-tales-of-the-household/ Sixth paragraph, fifth line. As none of us a trafficked peoples, yet… we should be satisfied with our lot in life… I do know of an American of Mexican descent on Yahoo Answers who wished she were not Mexican the moment she realised she looked Asiatic. This thing affects a lot of people.

          • TheSOP

            BTW Chinese dont make up 5% of the US population, I think you are thinking about all Asian Americans. But it is the fast growing immigrant demographic…. which is great for the US.

          • linette lee

            They also include the ones that’s part chinese.
            Many chinese-fino, Chinese-thai, Chinese-viet..etc.

            My fino girlfriends have Chinese blood but don’t speak a word of Chinese. :) They have their own little Philippine or Vietnamese communities too. I love their foods and restaurants.

          • TheSOP

            Yea Pinoys have some mixed Chinese amongst them, especially in the business community. Even the current prez Noi Noi has some on his mother’s side I believe. But the Philippines is definitely not on my radar for food, lumpia etc is ok but it can’t compete with Thai, Japanese, or Chinese (none gutteroil’d). Actually Vietnamese and PI food is a bit bland now that I think of it :[ and Manila is hella dangerous (for East Asia).

          • Warlock

            So could we see a Indian LEGCO councillor or even Prime Minister or ruler in Hong Kong one day. I do hope so, or even better, a nepali.

          • linette lee

            hehehehe…What do you think will be my answer?

          • Warlock

            Hahaha, not so sure on that one, lol. At least you got a sense of humour and can take a joke, unlike the OP,hehe

          • Scada

            Muslims hate Chinese communists-atheists (except Iran, interests). Buddhism is not a religion.

          • whuddyasack

            All fine and well. Muslims are not good company and prone to violence and terror, might as well take out Iran too.

          • linette lee

            YEah…that’s what I was told. Thai and Chinese get along. Also Chinese love to visit Thailand. The beaches are so beautiful. That food yummy and so cheap. Good place for vacation. :)

          • Pickledick

            Also its one of the only places where we Chinese have someone to look down on. Because dumb SB like you. Luckily, dumber SB like Sochai worship us. . . . truly perplexed.

          • linette lee

            You are a fxcking moron. Now look into the mirror and repeat that to yourself.

          • whuddyasack

            Pickle’s not Chinese or Thai =)
            Probably a neckbeard.

          • Mohamed

            Chinese and Thais are very similar. Morally saying.

          • Somchai

            khaek kee nok go pray to allah that we do not come and kill you muslim savages

          • whuddyasack

            Thanks Somchai =)
            I’m very welcoming of Thais too. Some of the friendliest, warmest people of all. Some people can have all the money in the world, education, resources, food and water, nauseating bouts of political correctness drilled in their heads yet Thais show far more open-mindedness.

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            I agree with your assertion on the light skin vs dark skin dynamic. While I don’t discriminate and find all complexions nice, I find tanned dark skin Thais very attractive. Screw those discriminating bigots.

          • Scada

            According to geneticists, 70% of Chinese people are descended from Southeast Asians.

            http://www.geocities.jp/ikoh12/kennkyuuno_to/gm_genes/fig_2.jpg

          • whuddyasack

            Don’t know why this was thumbed down but it’s generally true. My only guess is people hate reality. I actually have close friends who are Fili, Viet and Thai. None of them hate Chinese and Chinese don’t hate them.

            And very true about the Japanese and Chinese. This is true amongst International students and recent migrants, and even more true between J and C Americans, Canadians, Brits, Australians, etc. I’ve actually seen couples CxJ and JxC and they get along beautifully. I’m personally friends with many myself.

          • 龙哥

            Well, we are so lucky that individuals worldwide get along with each other even if their governments show signs of enmity, aren’t we?

          • Alice S

            part Chi celebs… eg Dennis Trillo, who is HALF CHINESE. That is A LOT.

          • Guy Fawkes

            I live in this region and I can tell you my experience. Religion plays a significant role here. Thais and Chinese are predominantly Buddhists whereas Malays are 100% Muslims and Indonesians are 99% Muslims. As a matter of fact, people of the same religion has less conflicts than a different one. Yes, in that sense, Thais and Chinese have more intermarriages and live together more peacefully. Islam is above everything else to Malays and Indonesians and both of their culture are heavily influenced by Islam. There are many religious taboo and you must exercise extra caution when you live with Muslim. No problem with that because we need to respect their religion.
            Of course there are other factors as well but they are not as significant as religion. Hell, this apply to many countries around the world as well. For example, ethnic Chinese make up of around 23% of the population in Malaysia. Say, if you replace all the Buddhist/Christian ethnic Chinese with Christian Africans or Christian Whites, issue will be there too.
            But overall everyone from different religion and ethnic background lives peacefully together. If you ask me, I meet nice Thais, Malays, Chinese, Indonesians, Indians and other ethnic groups here. If you compare inter ethnic/religion relation of South East Asians to Middle East, I would say we have done well but there is still room for improvement.

          • TheSOP

            Without a doubt, religion plays an important part. But even in Thailand it wasn’t just a smooth process. Chinese faced discrimination and a backlash from ethnic Thais also for a long time. There were even Chinese riots back in the 1940s if I remember right. But I think the religious commonalities facilitated better integration than Malaysia or Indonesia. Sino-Philippinos are also better integrated I think, Christianity being easier to adopt for them than Islam.

          • whuddyasack

            Of course, but if we get that far back, the same can be said of the West as historically riots were common. In fact, it’s not uncommon for Chinese/Asians to be beaten up, raped, murdered or robbed because they are Asian and thus “foreign”.

            Malaysia/Indonesia is a special case. Muslim countries typically are less tolerant than Christians or Buddhists and the Chinese born there don’t have a choice. Most Europeans don’t live in Muslim majority countries (I know I don’t, thankfully) so it’s easy for you to deem the Chinese as “evil treacherous commies” like all mainlanders. Yet every non-Muslim living in Muslim countries live in living hellholes that make the “PRC” seem like angels.

          • Scada

            Thais and Chinese have more intermarriages and live together more peacefully.

            That is why Asia is a shit?

          • Joseph Lau

            The Philippines is the first country in Asia that welcomed mass Chinese immigration and a choice to change their name in order to hide from the empire and later from the communist. The more you know…..

          • Joseph Lau

            The Government is despised but the people are welcomed and accepted by default.

          • whuddyasack

            Agreed. It does depend on the SEA nation, but on a personal level, I don’t think most hate Chinese that much. I certainly don’t hate SEAsians.

            And it’s true that Chinese parents very rarely deny their children. We will never talk about the One Drop Rule and we accept mixed children as our own. Even when most mixed children don’t look Chinese. In fact, one example is that almost all half-Chinese children I’ve seen look mainly White if not full White. How I know? Mommy or daddy happens to be Asian.

          • Alice S

            …Yeah. The percentage of intermarriage is so high it ridiculous. An example of such an intermarriage is Nadya Hutagalong + Koh. Nadya Hutagalong (image attatched) is the host of Asia’s Next Top Model, cycle 1… Read http://translate.google.co.nz/translate?hl=en&sl=tl&u=http://www.femalenetwork.com/girltalk/index.php%3Ftopic%3D175508.0&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfilipino%2Bchinese%2Blove%26biw%3D1138%26bih%3D518 It’s 30 whole pages long. ~ People who ‘dislike’: Do you hate ALL the CH cultures eg Manchurians + Tibetans etc (they are our pride and joy). DID YOU KNOW they comprise of 8% of the entire country. Just to show you how many that is… that is two whole times people of Chi blood in Canada… Zhuang look different. Shanye Huang has big eyes and a Filipino nose. And if you don’t know, the first picture is Mrs. Koh and the second is Huang.

        • Exman

          Despise? More like butthurt so they conjure up some imagined inferiority in Chinese people. South East Asians are some of the most pathetic people I’ve seen. They even blame shit like Asian stereotype of small eyes on Chinese people on the internet. Heck, when did I blame South East Asians for looking like a bunch of shit skinned, bloated mouthed, pig nosed, hairy bunch of midget monkeys?

      • 龙哥

        Yes, much better than that piece of old Soviet rust.

        The Liaoning is just a symbol. What many do not get is that implementing soft power and having the upper hand in regional diplomacy do not entirely rely on a bullying military.

        Even the US hegemony on the Western hemisphere and its ubiquitous presence arund the world can be easily explained as the result of economic, military and technologic success boosted by a skilled way to handle diplomatic affairs.

        And as for navies worldwide, aircraft carriers have been since long defined as “obsolete” or utter “floating coffins” unfit for modern warfare at sea (cit. http://books.google.it/books?id=XGJ7XsruZL0C&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=aircraft+carriers+are+floating+coffins&source=bl&ots=yIOek7hQv2&sig=OkhRgT2RewkQDhvr5mrI2K28uE4&hl=zh-CN&sa=X&ei=GaBYUo2gJ-iyiQf6joA4&ved=0CGMQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=aircraft%20carriers%20are%20floating%20coffins&f=false).
        If you want to calculate the true power of the new PLA’s navy, you should look for their fighting force concealed….. under the sea surface. Unbeknownst to many China has been building up the world’s largest submarine fleet lately and is on her way to develop fairly modern machinery for this kind of warfare.

  • 阿洋

    well she is ethnic Chinese, so what’s the big deal here.

    • Jackie Chan

      Well Mark Twain is ethnic English so he must be British right?

      • The Enlightened One

        lol, too true. I bet if she sang like crap she would be Malaysian without question.

      • dadada

        All hong kongers and taiwanese need do is fully 去中國化,yes that that included chinese surname,language,writing, then you guys won’t be crying when western confuse you guys as Chinese.

  • mr.wiener

    I for one welcome our new overlords

    • whuddyasack

      It’s unfortunate that your new overlords probably would never be overlords then =)

  • wafflestomp

    Xi Jinping is just surveying the country before more bogus land claims.

    • TheSOP

      Aint that the truth, I wonder what historical revisionist non-sense the PRC will come up with to start claiming parts of Southeast Asia. Their rubbish 9 Dash map is already teabagging Singapore and Indonesia on the forehead… not making any friends in Southeast Asia thats for sure. Many still remember that the Chinese were the imperialist long before the West came along.

      • MrC

        and the US just muscles its way in every where..
        Hows that working out, not good by all accounts.

        • TheSOP

          US fucks them up and then leaves, China steals their lands and seas and cries victim when called an imperialist. At least one of the two is honest. China has the diplomatic tact of a 12 year old.

          • MrC

            When the American government going to reopen?
            Diplomatic tact of 3 years old, throw a wobbly and close government wow..
            FFS

          • TheSOP

            That is true, of the Republican party at least. I’ll still take the US mess any day over worshiping a STD infested balding pedophile like Mao Zedong and his bastard child the CCP lol :P! But yea America looks like a joke right now and needs an overhaul of its political system, not anywhere as radical as the overhaul China needs but an overhaul nonetheless.

          • maybeabanana

            Disagree on terms on suppose freedom that America was found on. China has already reached that “commie” status but ironically, with their own tangled web of govt supervision, it’s not even as scary as what Britain or the Netherlands have. As for America, the physical big brother hasn’t kick in yet.. As for the mental kick in,… most of them thinks they still are fighting for freedom when the cage had already been built around them and slowly falling down.

            You might be arguing about the living situation being that most wealth comparable is more/better in the US. >>sauce… outta my furry butt.

          • whuddyasack

            But aren’t the democrats holding office? Mao’s long gone. It’s kind of sad that you’re still brooding over “big daddy”.

          • narsfweasels

            And the amazing thing is the country is still able to work without the government having its hands everywhere… lesson for China?

          • MrC

            yes America is great,every one else sucks.

          • narsfweasels

            Not EVERYONE else, there are a few borderline non-suck-out-loud cases. But mostly, yeah.

          • Alphy

            Not really, there’s a lot to fix in America, I don’t think any American will disagree with that. We also have a lot to learn from many countries. I would say many other First world country put us to shame in terms of policies.

            Through, why did you bring up America problem when we are talking about China? Is that some how related? That’s just Tu quoque fallacy, just because America has problem doesn’t make the statement that China has huge problem false.

          • MrC

            its a related comparison between powers and how they operate.
            but it dont matter what my opinion is. some (or lot) view America in the present climate as failing.
            Difficult to accept when you’re American I know.
            As long as people are around to justify American actions it can only get worse for America, so keep up the good work and expect no improvement to policy.

          • Gen XYZ

            I don’t like chinese people, why?

            1. They are ridiculously ugly.

            2. Most ugliest language on earth is chinese!

            3. China is a typical low-IQ society.

            4. Chinese are an inferior race! who bowed to their master race Bolsheviks. They were slaves of the Mongolians for centuries, then were enslaved by the British (Opium Wars), French (Shanghai), Portuguese (Macau), Americans (KMT), Soviet Russians (Communism) and Japanese (liberator of Asia from western colonialism).

            5. Chinese are communist imperialists.

            6. China has been ranked as one of the most corrupt nations in the world.

            7. China is the world’s worst polluter .

            8. Chinese people are negligent, relaxed, incompetent, dirty, immoral, atheists and materialistic. Worse than Latin americans and some Africans.

            There’s no hope for Chinese people in the future.

          • Jin

            wow you are a f.cking bitch
            at least make some sort of a joke out of those statements so we can laugh about it. this only spreads hatred.

          • whuddyasack

            Yeah, he’s kind of pathetic isn’t he/she? No joke, he’s even pretended to be female once and repeatedly come back despite bragging about not posting here. Humor is not his forte and hatred and “wacism” is his “tool” to exact vengeance lol. He keeps a grudge, be careful.

          • whuddyasack

            Throw some made up gibberish without any proof
            and all completely contradictory. (Europeans were also conquered and bested by various foreign elements including the Chinese,throwing the white flag like no tomorrow). Typical MO of some bitter case I suppose.

            So what if you hate Chinese? It’s not like they need “your” approval. Despite the hatred displayed by Euromericans towards the Chinese, most simply don’t feel the same nor even care what some ridiculously ugly, putrid, balding neckbeards have to say about them. They winnin’, you hatin’.

          • Warlock

            Contrary to what you say, seems they do, the wumaos?

          • whuddyasack

            Well, there’s not that many wumaos around are there? These are paid trolls and shouldn’t be taken seriously. And I don’t recall any of them intentionally and predatorily preaching hatred to the Euro race the same way you get to see unsightly hatred towards Chinese all over the internet.

          • Warlock

            No further comment to this gambit. Nothing personal mind.

          • 龙哥

            Your list, sir, can be rewritten and loosely used to describe any other country on Earth which one does not like.
            Just type the US instead of China and you will have the same effect (well, except for the fourth one).

          • Alphy

            What is wrong with you? lol.. I hope you are being funny (it is not). You do know how many ethnic Chinese are in this world, many of whom have completely different background and upbringing? Stop spreading hatred, and learn that Race is only skin deep.

          • Exman

            Are you fucking retarded? Listen scum, if you want to argue superiority and eugenics then China is where it’s at. I’ll bring up my most obnoxious thoughts on glorious China just for you.
            1. China is the oldest continuous world power. Even when we get conquered, foreign savages cannot resist acknowledging their own culture being inferior and eventually becoming assimilated.
            2. We are fucking beautiful people. Most Chinese are either born with pale smooth white skin or a nice smooth brown tan. Pretty much all of Asia has copied our beauty standards of black hair and pale skin but we look best in it. Whenever I see Japanese models I see prepubescent versions of our models, whenever I see Korean models I see fakes and clones. Our women are tall, slender, elegant and alluring or short, sweet, demure and beautiful. For fucks sakes foreign men fall head over heels for what we perceive to be our ugliest women.
            3. We are at fucking peak physical form. Heck, we couldn’t have conquered such a large area of land without having some serious superior athleticism. Just look at the Olympics, we are in peak physical condition and are always at the top.
            4. I’m pretty sure we are one of the cradles of civilisation and the first humans to evolve in Asia. Most of your ancestors were perhaps crawling in caves whilst we shot barbarians with bombs whilst sipping tea and doing all sorts of cool artistic things.
            5. We are corrupt but which country isn’t?
            6, Our language is old and noble, it sounds very powerful when spoken, straightforward and honest. It doesn’t sound like pigeons cooing like Korean or smashing glass like Japanese or downright fucking weird monkey noises like all the South East Asian languages.
            7. Seriously, since when did China ever fail to recover to its former glories whenever it took a fall in history? All your countries either shrunk to near non-existence or became conquered. We either fought back independently or assimilated the fuck out of them until they got unsuspecting and we killed our conquerors.
            8. Every single country who ever tried to conquer us was some weak little upstart who owed at least half its culture to us. Look at the people of countries surrounding China, they descended from us, look at their language and culture, it was influenced by us. They stole and claimed it as their own. Every time one of these weak little shits invades us the world does nothing, but when we encroach on their land, the world remembers and condemns the fuck out of us.
            9. China is probably the most alpha and superior country in the world. We don’t give a fuck about you. You will never destroy us. Keep getting mad. We will always be superior when it comes to civilisation and eugenics. Did I tell you that Asians have the largest brains? Oh and I swear we are the only country who picks itself up from its own problems without sucking the cock of some foreign fuck face.

          • Jin

            that’s sarcasm? not sure :p

          • MrC

            Im not sure either

          • aivbwbjnwjk

            “US fucks them up and then leaves….”
            Really???? Then why is the US military still in Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Japan, South Korea, Germany, etc.? So much for honesty.

          • Gen XYZ

            To encircle China. Russia (Jesuit) is our secret ally.

          • Gen XYZ
          • Gen XYZ

            Sino-Imperialists!

            Even Chinese don’t like Chinese.
            Scums of the Earth.

          • whuddyasack

            So what was the latest imperialist act of the Chinese? Feel free to state actual wars and invasions, resulting in death and destruction. Curious of course.

      • chosan

        zheng he , zheng he, zheng he, zheng he

        • TheSOP

          Although I think Zheng He is a bit too deified by the Chinese (he did kill people in some of the lands he visited after all, in Sri Lanka for one) he does provide an alternative face to the tradition of Chinese imperialism in East Asia… Of course much as Indonesian remember Zheng He’s visit to Majapahit they may also remember Meng Qi’s visit as well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Java)

          Honestly I hope China take the Zheng He path of diplomacy, it will be good for Asia, China, and the US. But they are not on that path. And I think you know that just as well as I do.

      • Gen XYZ

        No one likes China, no one.

        I don’t like chinese people!

        http://isitnormal.com/story/i-dont-like-chinese-people-71316/

  • Anonymous

    Not Chinese? she is Chinese, just not from China.

    • To be fair, the original translation said “中国人” rather than “汉族” or “汉人”, so they’re technically right in the sense that while she might be 汉族 (Chinese) she herself isn’t a person from 中国 (China).

    • JesusFuckingChrist

      What about white Americans, or white Australians? Are they English, just not from England?

      • Warlock

        Depends if they have English descent/lineage? I met an amiable aussie in the visa queue outside the PRC building in Wanchai, with the same surname. We went for a few beers after while waiting. Nothing like the same name (and beer) to cross oceans and break down barriers, all good banter, rofl some more

      • TheSOP

        The perverse devotion to an ethnic mother country is far weaker in the US, primarily it exists among recent immigrant communities.

        • whuddyasack

          True. But yet only one minority is targetted, a minority that happens to make up only 1% of the US and is more often than not loyal to their adopted country having been many generations there. There are minorities with a much worse track record than this but yeah, Russian Americans are allowed to practice perverse devotion to Russia and be considered American, so can Mexicans, Spanish, French, Greeks, Turks, Romanians, Bulgars, Swedes, Italians, Indians, Middle Easterners but not those Chinese lol

          • TheSOP

            You never miss an opportunity to pretend to be a victim do you? Chinese sure must love being treated like crap since they are fleeing China in record numbers for the US. You lies are transparent. Chinese have it much better in the USA than they ever did in China.

          • whuddyasack

            POS get real. I’m just pointing out your blatant hypocrisy in singling out Chinese. Playing the victim without proof is what you do best (Waaa, waaa Chinese so racist, Chinese fenqing hate us, waa waa).

            More like your lies. It’s a known fact that Chinese immigration to the US has SIGNIFICANTLY declined in recent years, an ongoing trend. Care to wager how many “PRC nationals” (not ethnics) are in the US? 200,000 would really be stretching it. Also there are 6 million American/Canadian/British nationals residing in China and more coming in. “Americans” of all races and ethnicities are fleeing the American trainwreck. Let’s just hope they flee(return) to Europe and not Asia. Oh wait, Europeans are fleeing Europe too. Ugh.

          • Kai

            I won’t comment on whether POS exhibits a victim complex or hypocrisy. People can use Disqus to review his past comments and judge for themselves.

            You may have reasons to suspect he was maliciously alluding to the Chinese and only the Chinese, but I think you’re overreacting and countering with an unpersuasive argument.

            I’m not sure if Chinese immigration to the US has significantly declined in recent years but I’m willing to review your sources for such information.

            Anecdotally, I feel PRC Chinese immigration to the US may be increasing though they still make up a small number of ethnic Chinese immigrants in the US. Most of the ethnic Chinese immigrants are from Taiwan and Hong Kong, coming over in waves between the 70s and 90s, I think.

            As China has opened up and developed economically, PRC citizens are beginning to emigrate abroad as they accumulate enough wealth to do so, and if they are inclined to do so. The American Dream is still alive with many. Overall quality of life and education are often cited as the main motivations, and of course there are those who are absconding with their ill-gotten newfound wealth. If they can’t get to America, they’ll try for Canada, and Europe is still a destination for many as well. The main factors are whether they have the means (money, meeting requirements) and the desire (to go, or to leave).

            Like Westerners in China, there are also PRC nationals who don’t settle down in the US and end up going back, either for lack of opportunity or because they simply can’t adapt to life in the would-be Western country. No big deal.

            I don’t think a devotion or sense of ties to an ethnic mother country is remotely “perverse” at all, nor is it remotely surprising that it exists most strongly among “recent” immigrants. Very very very few people in this world don’t have some sort of emotional attachment to their country of origin, especially if they grew up there and have friends and family there. It’s still part of who they are. There can be perverse manifestations of devotion, but it’s unfair to characterize the devotion itself as perverse. How many foreigners in China–whether for a short stint or for the long haul–remain devoted and attached to their home countries?

            The devotion to an ethnic mother country in the US is about as strong as it is in every other country. It’s stronger amongst recent immigrants and far weaker amongst less recent immigrants. In general, it is the same in America as it is elsewhere so I’m not sure why it is “weaker” in the US unless it’s an apples-to-oranges comparison.

            There are indeed more and more Westerners coming to China and end up residing here for longer stints than a tourist visit. China is happening and Westerners are people too, themselves susceptible to the perceptions of opportunity or adventure. No shame in that. Are they fleeing their home countries? That’s an prejudicial exaggeration, just as it is usually self-righteous to accuse immigrants of “fleeing” from their countries. That people from different parts of the world can move to where they feel they can improve their lives is a triumph of globalization. If there is no shame in ethnic Chinese from HK, TW, PRC emigrating to the West, why can’t Westerners come to China?

            Yes, lots of Americans and Europeans (amongst others) are coming to China to see what they can do here and yes, a notable proportion of those people are doing so because they aren’t enamored by their current prospects in their home country, perhaps due to their economic situation or whatever. Same was and is true for the Chinese.

            Ultimately, triumphantly holding up and cheering on the troubles and difficulties of another country doesn’t really score you points in arguments. It just makes you look petty.

          • whuddyasack

            Kai, a very good rebuttal. I’ll get back to you soon, since you’ve raised some good points and I disagree with you in others and think it best we discuss this. It’s good to see things from different view points. :-)

      • Chinese

        White australians are convicts, criminals.

        • Philipp

          If you want to meet Australians, just go to any prison in England…

          • mr.wiener

            More likely to be the fella pulling pints behind the bar rather than the fella behind bars.

        • mr.wiener

          Gosh how insulting. Read some Oz history books some time nimrod.

          • TheSOP

            He’s just trolling, probably would sell his right kidney (or that of his mother, you know these little emperor types) for an Aussie green card.

          • Warlock

            I would too, but just not a fan of huntsman spiders, if the ones I saw in Hunan/Sichuan were babies, I’m not sure I want to meet big momma:(:(

          • mr.wiener

            Actually if you can prove you have convict blood in your family it is a big status symbol these days.

          • whuddyasack

            So I’ve heard. It must be a seniority thing though =)

  • 二奶头发

    Why is she called fish? Is it because of her smell?

    • Cauffiel

      Because homosexuality is happening.

      • Warlock

        I picture you as an angry, shaven headed, young american who likes punk or grunge or some other derivative, and supports the KKK or something. Why so much hate, dear boy?

        • Cauffiel

          Nah, my comment is a throwback to an earlier comment by this same user, in a thread from about a week ago.

          • Warlock

            Fair enough. Are you white american?

          • TheSOP
          • Middle_Kingdum

            Ha ha!

          • Cauffiel

            Yeah.

          • Warlock

            Of English or Irish ancestry?

            Reminds me of the Rock (GRAAATTEEEEE movie!)

            Private Cox: [beating up Mason] English prick. I tell you my old man was Irish?

          • Cauffiel

            Both, but I’m about 5 generations 1000% ethnic American.

          • Warlock

            I guess what Bono of U2 said is true, that kind of unity of being “american” did not happen overnight. Hope for the african union yet??

  • Repatriated

    One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.

    • manujoro

      Praising fish, grateful fish
      Mainland fish, overseas fish

  • Rick in China

    Person A says a bunch of “Oh my god let me attach my lips to your asshole”, person B’s name is mentioned and says “I’ll attach mine to yours too, thanks!”

    Wow, this is amazing and interesting news. Thank the wonderful posters for being like WTFZX SHE PRAISED OHMGAWD REPOST REPOST, else the world would be a null void.

    • Cauffiel

      How could the government be screwing us over every day of our lives? Our President hangs out with pop stars. He’s so hip! He’s so cool! He’s Chinese Obama!

  • linette lee

    Mr. China president, Mrs Leong is Chinese from Malaysia. All the other singers like Stephanie Sun, Fish Leong, Michael Wong, Victor Wong/Pin Kuan, JJ Lin, Penny Tai are fully Chinese or at least part Chinese from Singapore, Malaysia, etc.
    I wonder why China gets mad when Hkese and Taiwanese said they are not Chinese. I guess to them only Chinese from China, Hk, and Taiwan are considered Chinese.

    • Ray

      Its more like Hkese and Taiwanese gets made when you say they are Chinese, for obvious reason even if its abit snobby.

      • 龙哥

        C’mon, as a matter of fact, they are Chinese

      • 煜 李

        yeah, absolutely, because China sucks.

    • Dick Leigh

      “Chinese” doesn’t mean anything. Han is just a made up ethnic group designed to fit as many disparate peoples as possible under a single flag. Just look at the huge differences between northern and southern chinese. They speak different languages, eat different food, look different and think differently. Despite all that, they’re all “han”.

      • pookey

        yes it does. Try telling that to a Taiwanese or HK person- despite whatever political leanings they have, they will definitely refer to themselves as ‘Chinese’, even if they may speak Cantonese or other southern dialects, because of the underlying strength of cultural/historical aspects which connect them to the term ‘Chinese’. So if they call themselves ‘Chinese’, it is meaningful cos they use the term to express their identity.

        In my view, ‘Han’ is kind of a historic geo-political notion similar to ‘Anglo-saxon’ Maybe that’s similar to your description, but that doesn’t make it irrelevant or not useful

        • Dick Leigh

          No, it’s definitely not similar to Anglo-Saxon. They occupied a small geographic area and were assimilated into a larger cultural group.

          Chinese is similar to Western (European). I say they’re useless terms because they can have a variety of meanings. Western can refer to Nationality/ethnicity/culture, just as Chinese can refer to nationality/ethnicity/culture. Unless someone specifies which term they mean, or you can tell by their appearance/dress and/or accent it’s sometimes hard to tell which term they mean.

          Example: Fish Leong is chinese, NOT Chinese, but she speaks Chinese.

          • Scada

            Nationality will soon be extinct. Nationality is an outdated concept, the race will override any nationality. In North and South America people are classified into; Whites, Blacks, Natives and Asians (yellows), regardless of nationality, culture and religion. Europe is on the same path. Europe, North America, Australia, UK, Russia are predominantly White. Cultural and religious differences are very small. Note: English is not my native language.

          • pookey

            We can debate semantics all day, probably won’t get us very far. The fact is, when it is not used as a political/national term to describe one’s nationality, the term ‘Chinese’ describes a shared set of cultural/linguistic/historical values that one deems themselves to hold and have in common. Why is that meaningless? Depending on the context, it should be pretty clear what they mean. If a Chinese person born in America says “I’m American Chinese” obviously they are American citizens but they deem themselves to hold a set of historical/linguistic/cultural values that are inherently Chinese. If people use it to say that’s what they are, it has meaning cos it expresses their identity.

            I do agree that ‘Han’ is to a certain extent an abstract notion made up to place a tag on people for political reasons.

      • Eidolon

        It’s amusing when people try to tell others what they are / aren’t, using the excuse that the other party is what they are only because the government told them so. Amusing, because they’re guilty of the exact same crime.

        Ethnicity is a matter of self identity. A person is Chinese when he / she identifies as Chinese, and just the same is not Chinese when he / she stops identifying as Chinese. While the opinions of others play a role in this process, in the end it comes down to the person. A white American may never be accepted as a Chinese by other Chinese, but if that is the identity he / she chooses, then that’s who he / she is.

        People’s identities are decided by themselves. The only decision you have is whether you accept them for who they are. To you Chinese doesn’t mean anything. But for a billion others, being Chinese is rather important. Collective identities are all constructs, but then so is marriage, religion, political ideology, nationality, society, aesthetics, culture, tradition, etc. etc. etc.

        • Tranxenne

          Your comment reminds me of that song from Bad Religion, “Them and us”:

          Despite that he saw blatant similarity
          He struggled to find a distinctive moiety
          All he found was vulgar superficiality
          But he focused it to sharpness
          And shared it with the others
          It signified his anger and misery

          Them and us
          Lobbying determined through a mire of disbelievers
          Them and us
          Dire perpetuation and incongruous insistence
          That there really is a difference
          Between them and us

          Hate is a simple manifestation
          Of the deep-seated self-directed frustration
          All it does is promote fear and consternation
          It’s the inability
          To justify the enemy
          And it fills us all with trepidation

          Them and us
          Bending the significance to match a whimsied fable
          Them and us
          Tumult for the ignorant and purpose for the violence
          A confused loose alliance forming
          Them and us

          I heard him say
          We can take them all
          (but he didn’t know who they were,
          And he didn’t know who we were.
          And there wasn’t any reason or
          Motive, or value, to his story,
          Just allegory, imitation glory,
          And a desperate feeble search for a friend)

  • Nilerafter24

    Her Chinese name is Liang Jingru. If she calls herself Fish because of a translation of her name from malaysian, then she obviously doesn’t know how weird it sounds.
    She reminds me of a chinese girl I know called Seaweed, who is obstinate about changing her name because she believes that since it sounds beautiful in Chinese, it must sound lovely in English too.

    • Cauffiel

      Its remarkable how insistent they often are to keep ridiculous names, which they often can’t pronounce and frequently spell wrong anyway.

      • The Enlightened One

        The funniest name I have heard was a teenage girl named “Little Bob”…. didn’t make any sense.

        • Probotector

          I had a student once called Fuck. No joke.

          • Germandude

            Best ones I have seen so far were: Others, Mini and the all known Joy….

          • dffd

            theres millions of phucs in vietnam

          • Angie Mac

            That’s racist! Oh…

          • Mony Xie

            Pho Phuc Lai? Hahahaha

          • mr.wiener

            Back when I was teaching I had a “Star Trek” class, The previous teacher had given them the names, Spock, Kirk, Bones, Uhura, Chekoff, Scotty , Sulu etc.
            It was hard to teach them with a straight face.

          • Warlock

            Hahaha, priceless story. Beam me up!!!

          • kaka

            Oh, Fuck Yu, about 24 – comes from Shenzhen, yeah? cool guy!

          • Cauffiel

            I found a group of friends to bike with when I moved to Dongguan. They used to have a Chinese guy in their group named Nigger.

          • dffd

            you live in dg ,,i bet you been to many ktvs and saunas there,, dont lie bro, thats what dg is all about

          • Cauffiel

            I don’t think there are any saunas here. Many spas, but they all look like they’re just for women.

        • Cauffiel

          I had a Beer, Super Pig, a load of Kobes, Freecs, Although, and a 12 year old boy named Grace, which I begged him to changed.

          • TJDubs

            Such English names call for westerners to adopt equally ridiculous Chinese names: 臭豆腐, 威士忌,法克由,盘大贝(儿),成吉思汗,大山, etc.

          • Cauffiel

            I’ll take them all!

          • Probotector

            大山 calls himself that because he’s tall. Still, it’s pretty dumb.

        • Nefarious Laowei

          A Chinese girl once introduced herself to me as “I Swallow.”

          • manujoro

            Middle name Spits?

        • Tranxenne

          Superman, Egg, Sandwich, 217, Zim (he looks like a tiny heinous alien too!), MacQueen, Dino, Tiger, Dragon…

          Mispellings they refuse to see corrected: Herry, Flank, Michel (for a girl)

          Also countless Stevens and Kevins.

          I still forget some.

          But yeah when it comes to picking names Westerners too will often choose names that sound a bit funny to chinese ears. And I’m no exception: my chinese name is 阿迪. Yes, just like adidas. No, I’m not particularly fond of the brand. It’s just that it sounds like my actual firstname, and it was convenient at first (“阿迪达斯的阿迪”). I have another, proper chinese name, but everybody including me got accustomed to this one, and no one actually uses it.

      • 龙哥

        Well, at least they do make an effort. Just think about how it would be without them picking English names. Are you sure foreigners would bother pronouncing Chinese monosyllables the right way?
        In the meantime, only 20% (or even less) of laowais living in China ever use a Chinese name.

        • Angie Mac

          Can you show me a statistic that says 20% of laowais living in China use a foreign name? I’m just curious.

          On a side note, I met James Bond two nights ago.

          • Cauffiel

            In China, it would be Bond James.

          • 龙哥

            Sorry for the late reply, Madam.
            Laowais using foreign names???
            Oh, you probably mean Chinese names.
            Well, James Bond is cool, but that is nothing compared to Zorro, who has apparently started working in China after retiring in L.A.

        • kaka

          Hmm, an, err, interesting point. . . I counter your post with:

          80 % (or more) laowais living in China are either a) from another asian country, and would therefore rather commit ritual suicide than refer to themselves by a Chinese name, or b) have a name that is written in the Latin alphabet, and is therefore easily pronounceable by anyway who has even the briefest understanding of the world’s international language – meaning that they don’t have to refer to themselves by some lame moniker just so that someone can remember who they are…

          • 龙哥

            I like your way of discerning facts.
            What if the laowai’s name is not originally written in the Latin alphabet? (thanks for saying Latin, and not English, alphabet, now you have my dearest appreciation)

        • Cauffiel

          I use a Chinese name, which I learned how to write correctly, stroke order ‘n eeeeverything. I also do my best to pronounce my students Chinese names correctly, but I have hundreds, so I often draw laughter, especially when someone’s got “Cao” in their name.

          But I don’t even expect them to pronounce each other’s English names correctly…. just their own. And they often can’t. Last year I forced my students to choose real names, disallowing anymore of this “Seaweed” and “Kobe” nonsense. This year I did away with English names entirely because half of all my classes don’t even respond or understand when I say their English names. How fuckin’ hard is it to learn one word?

          Loads of them really make no effort at all. I’ve had students who misspell names like “Amy” and “John.”

          • 龙哥

            How old are they?

          • Cauffiel

            All university. I rarely teach other ages.

          • Probotector

            I gave up on English names too, and basically said I only want to address you by your Chinese name. English is like a joke language to many Chinese people; they think its not to be taken seriously.

          • Warlock

            The girls names drive me batshit crazy. How many more Aimee’s, Cici’s or Yuki’s do I have to hear/read. Most are amazed to know Yuki is a japanese name even:(

          • Probotector

            The problem is perpetuated by the idiot Westerners who don’t ever learn any Chinese, who depend on calling Chinese people by their ‘English names’, or because they think it’s cute.

          • Warlock

            Indeed. One must learn some Chinese.

          • Cauffiel

            I think anything not Chinese is considered a joke or just not-quite-ok. Its pretty wild considering what they do take seriously.

          • Probotector

            A nation of retards.

          • mr.wiener

            overgeneralized.

          • Probotector

            Am I not correct?

          • mr.wiener

            “A nation of retards”….no you are not. The system is loaded so the scion of the privileged get their snouts in the trough and anyone with any nous is sidelined , jailed or ground down. The education system produces drones who are taught to repeat what they rote learned and to keep their heads down and never question…but the Chinese are not a nation of retards.

          • Warlock

            Best age to teach mate. I have to teach 4 classes a week of Juniors and extra at part time. Little.bloody.horrors!!!

          • Cauffiel

            Best age to teach is adults, usually professionals or bored stay-at-home moms. You can really connect with a lot of them, and they are so so happy that they don’t have to be at home or at work while they are in your class.

            The idiot university students are too stupid and immature to realize how easy they have it. They want to go back to their dorms and play video games or “play the basketball competition, if our mood is good.”

          • Probotector

            Lol, I heard that. I hate it when they don’t come to class prepared, like they forgot their glasses, and I ask, “how could you get to class if you can’t see?” They usually don’t have an answer.

          • Cauffiel

            Oh, yeah, they think foreign teachers will fall for anything. I’ve had students come to class many times with no book, paper, pen, or even book bag. I ask them why not, and they say they forgot….. as in, they came all the way to class, and forgot to bring ANYTHING AT ALL.

          • Warlock

            Indeed. Filled in for a mate who taught adults, they are a piece of piss to teach, especially in a one to one class setting. Agree about the boys, add in watching JAV as a hobby.

          • 龙哥

            Well, you’d better correct the mistakes, as their school teachers have never managed to do it.
            You already had a great idea by banning all “weirder” names.
            I wish foreigners behaved like this here.

          • Cauffiel

            I gave up. I used to try to be a really good teacher… correct their Chinglish, force them to use normal names, give them many speaking exercises throughout class, and teach them to have a more adjective-rich vocabulary.

            But they insist what their high school teachers taught them is correct, insist on using a name with a meaning they like no matter how ridiculous it is, insist on speaking Chinese during speaking exercises because there are too many of them for me to get on them about it, and insist on saying everything is “sunshine” “beautiful” “handsome” or “colorful.”

            All they want is to pass their test. They don’t give a shit about the things that are actually important. Its hard to blame them, but I still want to smack the hell out of them sometimes.

          • Probotector

            I know. I specifically focus on correct pronunciation, grammar etc. when I teach, and their attitude is like “well, it’s too difficult to do what he says, so I’m going to default onto my high school-level Chinglish, because that’s easier, and I don’t want to be seen as giving a fuck”. I usually keep their marks down to a bare minimum pass, as a result. Which reminds me, I hate it when foreign teachers give incompetent students really high marks.

          • Cauffiel

            It doesn’t really matter…. at most schools, the grades we give them are averaged in with the grades they get from their Chinese English teachers. The only thing that matters is that they pass. Their Chinese teacher will carry them the rest of the way.

  • Angie Mac

    Headline: So Long! And thanks for all the Fish.

    • mr.wiener

      Beat me to it. Well done that woman.

  • Repatriated

    New album “Fish & Patriotic Songs”. Without even hearing it, I already can guess it to be the same, same, same boring music…with no live musicians, just orchestra-type background fluff. No twerking like Miley. LOL. Maybe what China needs is a “Chinese” (I guess it matters where everything thinks she’s from) twerk-jerk media sensation. Ha.

    Song titles from above:

    01.The patriotic song didn’t tell you 02. Shining red star 03.
    Unconditionally for the motherland 04. The long march road 05. From
    Ningxia 06. Love the motherland for more than a couple of days 07.
    Gaining a Chinese heart after loving long 08. Breathing Diaoyu Island
    09. Today’s National Day 10. Patriotic song feat.Party
    Queen [Revised from original songs by Fish Leong: 01. The love song
    didn’t tell you 02. Shining star 03. Unconditionally for you 04. The
    silk road 05. Ningxia 06. Love you for more than a couple of days 07.
    Looking through a heart after loving long 08. Breathing pain 09. Today’s
    Valentine’s Day 10. Love song]

    • Boris

      I think the poster was joking. But it’s not too hard to imagine…

      • Repatriated

        Bonus tracks:

        11. Hotel Chinafornia
        12. Another brick (fell out of) the wall
        13. Life’s a fish, then you fry
        14. Bein’ a little wife ain’t easy

  • Washington Bullets

    Something’s…Fishy about this.

    • Warlock

      Hahaha………

  • TheSOP

    Its interesting that the ethnically Chinese states in Southeast Asia (Sino-SEAsians generally control the economies and occasionally the politics of most SEA states) are generally cool towards China. Singapore for one strongly promotes hedging against China by bandwagoning with the US and Japan. Guess they know best that the PRC has hegemonic intentions, they know the culture and history of Chinese statecraft better than their Western counterparts and understand there is a genuine threat. Interesting history in the region.

  • jon

    Why is this newsworthy at all? The true undertone of Xin Jin Ping’s message is aimed at Malaysians. Malaysians of Chinese ancestry are Malaysians, and Chinese on the mainland should respect that. Fish Leong is a Malaysian of Chinese ancestry, but she is an excellent example of fostering goodwill among China and Malaysia. The whole point of the summit is economics and goodwill, bringing up contentious issues is unproductive and backward, and ultimately won’t get you anything.

    • loki

      I was looking for a post like yours.. saved me some time typing it out my self..

    • Scada

      That is why Asia is a shit?

  • “Einstein and Oppenheimer are well-known to the German people…” Classic!

  • mr.wiener

    Is she leaving Malaysia then? If so the Malaysian people can give her a farewell concert: “So long and thanks for all the Fish”

    • Somchai

      Leave the jokes to the professionals.
      Farang kee nok kee nok!

    • Somchai

      LAME FARANG KEE NOK

  • Jiang

    We are all Chinese. Mainland Chinese, American Chinese. Malaysian Chinese. Overseas Chinese. Just happened our ancestors left mainland looking for a living elsewhere does not disqualify the Chinese in us.

    • TheSOP

      For some reason that doesn’t build trust between the overseas Chinese and the communities they reside in. How can you trust them? Do they put ethnic loyalty before country and ideology? Perhaps that is why there is so much tension between ethnic Chinese and their hosts in Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Burma etc.

      • Warlock

        Excellent post. Perhaps the ethnic malays have some justifiable reasons for the riots and so on?

        • TheSOP

          They have reasons, as did the ethnic Indonesians. Whether they are justifiable is an all together different matter. Travel to Indonesia, its like oil and water, the two dont mix much and there is a lot of animosity.

          • Mohamed

            Even blacks hate Chinese, friendship, friendship … business is business.

        • pookey

          I think that’s a rather strong and unjustified statement. I don’t think the exclusive mentality that the overseas Chinese have helps, but its a far cry from justifying riots and targeted murders of Chinese.

          The reality is, in Malaysia the rapid economic growth experienced over the past 40+ years has in a large way been down to the industriousness and business and trade acumen of the local Chinese, which in turn fostered good conditions for foreign investment. All this has been in spite of decades of (arguably discriminatory) affirmative action which favour local Malay ‘Bumiputera’ companies for government contracts and is not a level playing field. Even the Tamil community are with the Chinese n this one.

          what i’m trying to say is that if anything, ethnic Malays have no reason whatsoever to justify such actions. If anything, they should be grateful to the contributions of overseas Chinese to the country. Unlike Thailand, however, the vast cultural gulf between Muslim Malays and ethnic Chinese has provided no opportunity for the two races to properly gel, which is why race politics is still a big issue there.

          • Warlock

            How far do you go back though? Even Jeremy Clarkson, bigmouth himself, said he didn’t trust cars made by people with shoes made from leaves (malaysians). Wonder if he meant ethnic malays, or all malaysians? I bet the malays hated the brits, I know mahathir did.

            As for thailand, sorry for commenting/

      • Somchai

        Indonesia and Malaysia are uncivilized muslim countries. I have met many Chinese descendants from those two countries and they always emphasize that they are Chinese first and seem embarrassed to come from such dirty terrorist countries. In Thailand, it is much different. We also have many Chinese descendants but they always insist that they are Thai only. Even my light-skinned Chinese-looking friends when studying in China would tell locals that they were Thai, not Chinese!

        • Mohamed

          Chinese and Thais are very similar. Morally saying. Cheap bitches in Dubai?

          • Somchai

            You are a camel molester Arab. Come to Thailand and we treat you worse than black people. Uncivilized Muslim boy go back to your cave! Even a prostitute don’t want to have sex with you because you smell like Indian curry. You are a khaek kee nok!

          • mr.wiener

            @27d3bf822474fafbfd163130fdbebcc1:disqus @13315259d560f212288ea5072e7455fd:disqus.
            Keep it nice or you will be moderated.

          • Somchai

            mr. wiener you are for sure a muslim lover.
            FALANG KEE NOK!

        • Ami

          I don’t know about Indonesia but calling Malaysia “uncivilized” is really laughable. With a name like Somchai, can I assume you’re Thai? Your countries aren’t really that different.
          I’d prefer to live in Bangkok rather than KL but not because Thais are friendlier but I feel like Malays are generally more intellectually oriented** than Thais.

          Chinese in South East Asian countries are really good at business and keeping the culture and certainly the wealth in between themselves. But in a very proud, nationalistic country like Malaysia or Indonesia that causes a lot of tension and hostility. It doesn’t help that some Chinese have some superiority complex to native SEA people.

          **I don’t know how phrase this better. I’m not saying Thais are dumb but that “peaceful” attitude certainly gets in the way of having real debates. That and the fact that even educated Thais rarely speak english half as well as Malay taxi drivers.

          • Ami

            Whoops: I meant to say “I would like to live in Bangkok because thais are friendlier than malays”. Ignore the but not.

          • Somchai

            Ok so you judge us based on our English speaking ability? Haha stupid farang! Thailand was never a British colony like Malaysia so we don’t need to speak that language. Many Thais can speak Chinese, Khmer, Lao and other languages though. Malaysia and Thailand is very different. They are an uncultured Muslim savage country. Thai people are Buddhist and many of us have some Chinese blood so we are smarter and more business oriented than Malays and generally lighter skin. Malaysia is useless country and so dirty and unclean.

          • mr.wiener

            You have already told us what an accepting and welcoming country Thailand is, then you turn around and mouth off at Muslims, Blacks and Whites [Falang].
            You are either a non-Thai trying to make Thais look like imbecilic hypocrites or you are trolling.Either way I’m asking you politely to keep it nice.

    • Cauffiel

      Ethnicity and race are different. Those whose ancestors left China are racially Chinese, but not longer ethnically Chinese. Unless they are still acquainted with extended family in China or live in tight-nit enclaves, they literally have zero connection to anything Chinese other than their genetic stock, which is not supposed to be meaningful in modern social orthodoxy (except when its convenient or beneficial.)

      • pookey

        How could you possibly say “zero connection to anything Chinese other than their genetic stock”. You’re wrong, and i’m sure a lot of ethnic Chinese in SE Asia and elsewhere would agree with me on this. You underestimate the sense of kinship and belonging that culture brings. Migrant Chinese in countries all round the world formed Chinese associations (mainly for networking and economic purposes) that still exist to this day. They follow the same rituals (festivals, prayer, etc) even more strongly than modern Chinese mainlanders do today. Chinese dialects, as well as Mandarin are still spoken by overseas Chinese whose families have been abroad for generations. Those who can afford it send their children to be educated in Chinese language schools, and readership of Chinese language newspapers is high in those communities. I think your original statement was “ethnicity and race are different”, and i don’t really have anything to say on that, but your support for that statement was totally off the mark.

        • Cauffiel

          Maybe you overlooked my caveat: “Unless they are still acquainted with extended family in China or live in tight-nit enclaves.”

          In any case, I mean to apply a concept that may simply be less germane to racial Chinese (and other East Asians) than others. Take a look at black Americans: I know a lot of them love to masturbate over their African heritage and give their kids fucked up African-sounding names that aren’t, names that no one who matters will ever take seriously, but really….. most have zero connection to anything African other than their genes. And genetics are pretty insignificant considering how very, very closely all races are genetically related.

        • Scada

          Nationality is an outdated concept, the race will override any
          nationality. In North and South America people are classified into;
          Whites, Blacks, Natives-Asians (yellows), regardless of nationality, culture and
          religion. Europe is on the same path. Note: English is not my native
          language.

    • Rick in China

      You don’t get it: there’s a difference between nationality and race. Chinese is a nationality, not a race. Chinese people are generally mongoloid. I’m Canadian – but I’m also Caucasoid. Chinese often refer to themselves as a race, because they’re trying hard to follow in Hitler’s footsteps? but the bottom line is: Chinese are mostly ethnically Mongoloid in race.

      Being born & growing up in America, while they may say “Chinese-American” – they’re Americans that are of the Mongoloid race, perhaps their parents came from the nation China….so what. They’re no more Chinese than I — as a Canadian — am Scottish.

  • 剑胆琴心

    then at least i have a cute name…haha!

    • Middle_Kingdum

      It’s true!

      • 剑胆琴心

        who your?
        you know my name?

        • Middle_Kingdum

          I mean your name super bunny.

  • Beijinger

    If I were Malaysian, I would find xi’s comment pretty condescending.

    Also Leong’s response is complete PR speak, what else can she possibly say?

  • narsfweasels

    “Fish Leong”? And that’s a name, is it?

  • bprichard

    “Delicious frozen durian” could not sound more condescending. Nice country you’ve got there. Love your fruit! Heard you have some singers too!

  • Stefan Xu

    What about the ethnic minorities in China such as ethnic Mongols, Uyghur, Koreans, Manchu etc. Would you consider them Chinese? Like if you met them abroad?

    • Cauffiel

      I would consider them “from China.”

  • Robert Rou

    Some people here do a very ugly thing. They have neither regard for truth nor honesty, and exhibit not a shred of human decency.

    Who is to blame for the bizarre and awkward English names given to these Chinese children, if not the English teachers themselves? The CCP should address this, because if we’re talking about a dictatorship of the people, it’s one of their foremost obligations to protect the people, youth especially.

    Further, on the topic of imperialism, whom shall we look to for centuries upon centuries of imperialism on every continent of the world in their desire for world domination? From Africa to the Middle East to the Indian subcontinent to Hong Kong to Australia to North America. Those that live in glass houses should not cast stones.

    So if we want to talk about the Asian geopolitics or communist leaders like Mao, yes we can do that. I’d ask for some intellectual honesty and perspective from descendants of such colonizers if they desire to talk about such topics, but then again, by now, I’ve realized to whom I talking to.

    On communism, it is of note that it is these communists that rallied the fight *against* imperialism in their bid for national liberation and freedom. If not for these leaders, these nations would still be under the colonial yoke, and given their odds of success against superpowers of their day, there is a reason these communist leaders are living legends of their generation.

    Communism today is and remains as one of the most powerful political and intellectual movements known to man, its message more apropos today than ever in this age of growing inequality, and its legacy somewhere to be charted for all those that have experienced that escalating loss of faith in this uncertain world we live in.

    P.S. Consider this a one-off post from yours truly. You may be asking why, but then again I have that question too, especially when there are other flaming sacks of shit on this board ;)

    • whuddyasack

      Nicely said, from the masta =)

    • al in china

      Nice one Robert…….I’m a teacher and always wonder the Chinese take an English name…….The arrogant reply is the teachers can’t pronounce my name.

  • ddd

    You don’t have to be a PRC national to be Chinese, fucking idiots.

    • 龙哥

      Your statement corresponds to the truth and is much appreciated, Mr. ddd.
      Just to remind everybody even Bruce Lee’s major works may be interpreted as a form of Chinese nationalism although Lee himself was no PRC citizen.

  • al in china

    I have friend that are ABC teacher and their fucking stupid students have the nerve to say they are not Chinese. What kind of fucking education did they get in the fucking stupid Heavenly Kingdom!

  • elizabeth

    Chinese of other nationalities, especially SE Asians refer to themselves as Malaysian Chinese, Singaporean Chinese, Indonesian Chinese, etc. PRC Chinese do not have monopoly over the word ‘Chinese’, which refers to a race, not nationality.

    In that sense, President Xi’s comment that Fish is often mistaken as Chinese will undoubtedly be construed a little presumptuous to Chinese of other nationalities, although he might not have meant it that way.

    Or is it an extension of the PRC’s territorial ambitions?

  • 如果你能读懂这些文字,你就是个老外

    the only important question here: is that a Boing or an Airbus in the background? Dont think the dude or anyone of his colleagues in and around Bejing dares flying in a china made product.

  • Seah

    Hi all, i am Malaysian Chinese and we are still considered Chinese among others ethnicity in our own mother land (Malaysia), we never forget our root as a Chinese. We are just different in terms of nationality.

  • al in china

    F**king stupid arrogant Chinese want anyone that is famous who looks Chinese to be Chinese. The people of other countries are proud not to be mainland Chinese!

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