H7N9 Bird Flu Virus Discovered in Shanghai & Anhui, Reactions

Chinese girl receiving vaccination shot.

From NetEase:

Shanghai and Anhui H7N9 Bird Flu is Latest Influenza Virus

Summary: Cases of H7N9 Bird Flu have been discovered in Shanghai and Anhui, with two deaths, and the other Anhui case being critically ill. The exact source of the infection for the 3 individuals is still unclear. The National Health and Family Planning Commission indicated that these H7N9 Avian Influenza viruses are a newly-discovered subtype of the influenza virus.

From NetEase:

1 Shanghai Victim Was a Pork Seller, Experts Propose Testing the Huangpu River Dead Pigs

[…]

Expert Suggestion

Should obtain specimens from the Huangpu River dead pigs to test if they contain avian influenza

Hong Kong University Center for Infectious Diseases Director He Bailiang says the past human cases of bird flu that have appeared on the mainland mostly belong to the H5 category. “This instance of transmission to humans is rather unusual, and may very likely show that this strain of avian influenza virus has already mutated.

As for whether or not it is related to the large number of dead pigs that appeared in Shanghai’s Huangpu River, He Bailiang says there isn’t enough evidence or basis to comment on whether the two are related, but in light of the Shanghai 27-year-old male victim having been a pork vendor, the relevant mainland departments ought to collect specimens from the dead pigs and test for whether or not they contain avian influenza virus.

Comments from NetEase:

小强不奸 [网易南非网友]:

Something that happened in March, only reported at the beginning of April! If it were airborne, wouldn’t Shanghai have screwed over Anhui? On behalf of Shanghai city residents, I send my greetings to Shanghai’s city officials!!!

潜了N年了 [网易四川省成都市网友]:

It’s been almost a month now!

请叫我新奥斯卡 [网易江苏省苏州市网友]: (responding to above)

This is how the country’s public credibility is forfeited, treating the ordinary common people’s lives as a game.

ROC才是汉之正统 [网易广东省广州市网友]: (also responding to 潜了N年了)

“Experts say, the moment you get a fever, coughing, and other acute respiratory infection symptoms… At the same time, avoid coming in contact with diseased (dead) birds and livestock.” ——So what are our Shanghai compatriots who have already drank pig river water supposed to do?!!

我就是凶手 [网易四川省成都市网友]:

Finally at the forefront of the world.

网易浙江省金华市网友:

Today is April 1st, I’ll start, China is the most transparent country!

网易广东省东莞市手机网友: (responding to above)

Chengguan are never violent.

kanke1200 [网易上海市网友]:

Zhejiang people harming others for their own benefit sold the dead pigs to Shanghai, China’s real estate market is all a result of Zhejiang’s Wenzhounese, and the dead pigs came from the people in Jiaxing in Zhejiang.

网易广东省东莞市网友:

Evolving… Three months later, SARS Part 2 debuts…

信述堂pfengdvd [网易广东省东莞市网友]:

Ten years ago, SARS came, local governments hid it from the media, and the result was that once it spread, it could not be contained…

regegfdhert54 [网易日本网友]:

Did not get to the forefront of the world economically, but got to the forefront of the world with influenza virus.

燎痒方丈 [网易山东省滨州市网友]:

Sometimes I really wonder, the world really would be better off being destroyed. This is a sincere thought, don’t flame me. You tell me why people these days are so evil.

网易湖北省武汉市网友:

Isn’t it just a few people who died from a cold, stupid countrymen, making such a fuss, getting ready to be made a fool again? They’re once again organizing experts to con the common people, to frighten the common people, with SARS being one example, using it as a pretext to conduct a nationwide exercise, all phony and exaggerated, with the goal of forcefully selling vaccines. Throughout the world are over 2000 strains of cold [virus], with not a single one’s DNA cracked yet, which is to say not a single strain of cold can be cured, and actually, colds are all recovered from on your own, with medical treatment all about using various antibiotics to treat serious complications caused by the cold.

xufei88888888 [网易浙江省宁波市网友]:

I think the appearance of the dead pigs and the bird flu are too much to be a coincidence, and 90% probability it has something to do with the United States, probably a virus deliberately introduced by the United States, to destroy China’s peace and economy.

网易河北省网友:

The H7N9 virus may be all around the country, just not reported. My husband’s father died in the first month of the new lunar year from acute pneumonia, just one month from onset to death. Went to three hospitals, and cause of death is uncertain. Even the hospital doesn’t know what kind of bacteria it was, and the bacteria developed very quickly. There are a lot of sick people like this.

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  • Germandude

    “I think the appearance of the dead pigs and the bird flu are too much to be a coincidence, and 90% probability it has something to do with the United States, probably a virus deliberately introduced by the United States, to destroy China’s peace and economy.”

    I just dropped my cup of coffee. Surely, the CIA set this up…

    • carmouflagger

      And M16.. Maybe that’s why James Bond went to Shanghai O.o

    • Bugs Bunny

      and some chinese people think wenchuan earthquake was caused by american HAARP…damn america!

      • Beelzebub

        HAARP modifies the ionosphere, I fail to see how it could affect land, but thats just me, sitting on the fence.

        • Bugs Bunny

          your alan?

          • Beelzebub

            who he?

          • mr.wiener

            Alain: English type with slightly poofy speech mannerisms [dear boy] , likes tormenting Elijia.

          • Beelzebub

            Ah, never recall he used that mannerism, but dear boy is not poofy or shirt lifterish imho, its just a simple term of endearment for a younger lad, nothing like dodgy scout leader bum boy territory about it at all…..

          • mr.wiener

            suspicion=confirmed

          • how did he torment Elijia, pray tell a story.

          • Elijah

            Elijah, not Elijia, thanks.

            We shall not encourage the Retarded Stalker Troll.

            It’s unkind when he has to seek out the one person who must be proud of him. Pity those who don’t know contentment.

          • linette lee

            hi elijah, long time no see you here. Hope everything is good with you. :)

          • hey Linette… I need help with translating something in simplified chinese and I am embarass to post it here for everyone to see. Its not much only 3 little sentence. Is there a way for me to contact you? do you have a blog or email or anything convenient where I can send a private message?

          • I knew behind that classy British demeanor of his lies an animal, an apex predator, ready to pounce!

      • linette lee

        And sichuan earthquake also..Dame those american hahaha….lol ;)

        • Rainer

          wenchuan is just in Sichuan, man.
          Dame those American who even think Iraq is beside Guantanamo. HAHAHA!

    • BiggJ

      America? It was the Japanese trying to hit nanjing again. They just missed and hit shanghai….do them jap bastards ever quit?

      I was the store the other day buying something to drink, I was looking at this chinese junk food tofu thing..I dont know what the fuck it was….but the package had a picture of diaoyu islands with chinese boats around it and fighter planes flying over with a big chinese flag on the island. hahahaha. On some kids food. lol

      • Nope, there are 4 cases in Nanjing reported this morning. The Japs are more efficient than you think.

        • BiggJ

          Fuck sakes!!! That’s the last straw!! Them dirty jap bastards must pay!!They just won’t quit…I guess chinese tv was right all along….

          • linette lee

            Those dirty japs……It must be their conspiracy dropping dead pigs into china water. Now the bird flu. I beg those dead pigs and birds understood japanese. lol…… ;)

          • BiggJ

            You don’t understand, the pigs killed themselves kamikaze style. They jumped off a cliff onto rocks and floated down stream. They wanted honorable deaths and to take chinese out with them. lol

          • Hongwu Emperor

            Yes, remember rule number 10 of the internet essential guide to all netizens: If you don’t know the source, don’t worry, it’s japan fault and they’re hiding it!

          • Hongwu Emperor

            Suddenly, then the anti-japanese riot begins, and people shouting ”retaliate, retaliate, vengeance!!” and other stuff

      • Germandude

        Are you serious? If that’s true, I gotta get me one of those.

        • BiggJ

          It’s like little hot tofu or made of noodles,…I can’t even begin to explain it to you. lol. They are like 1/2 rbm each. They are like little square bits…maybe the size of a M&M each.Ill buy some later today and put a picture on for you. lol

      • La Mano Gaucha

        Unreal…

    • B*tches, Leave

      Don’t be ridiculous, guys, the Chinese will accuse Japan’s PSIA, but will actually believe it’s US’s CIA. The foreigners will joke that it’s the North Korean’s SSD, but in reallity it’ll be the Russky’s KGB (ups, I mean FSB) … EXELSIOR!!!

    • The Enlightened Out

      You got it all wrong dude.

      It’s the aliens! The aliens want to ruin your day, thus your life and then your soul… and then eat it!

      Where’s my aluminum hat! Aaaaah the aliens!

  • BiggJ

    What’s next???? H11N14? That shit will kill you 3 times before you hit the ground. lol

    • markus peg

      T-virus is next.

      • BiggJ

        It’s pretty much leading to that. lol

        • Kai

          Just read today that World War Z edited out a line suggesting the zombie outbreak might have started in China!

          • BiggJ

            You mean china edited it or the movie?

          • Kai

            The producers edited it, not China’s censors. Kinda like how the Red Dawn remake ended up changing the baddies from China to North Korea for fear of alienating a possibly lucrative movie audience.

            I think the article was on the WSJ.

          • BiggJ

            lol, Yeah I can kind of see that. Some stuff I can see them censoring. One movie I thought the chinese had no reason to censor was the new James Bond. I read somewhere that they took out like 45 mins off of it when they were in China. So I watched the full movie thinking it was something bad said or made china look bad….but it was nothing. James Bond goes to Shanghai fights this guy in a building, kills him. Then he finds a casino chip from Macau so he goes there and gets in a few more fight..that’s it.If anything it almost made China look good. Streets were clean….Normal acting people…It made no sense why they took that whole part out of the movie.

          • Guang Xiang

            A chinese security guard died. You know Chinese people can’t lose to foreigners.

          • BiggJ

            Ah yeah, you’re right…I forgot about that. When he first get to shanghai right? And that Komoto dragon kills the guy in Macao. There isn’t any shame in that…It’s not like he was killed by “hillbilly Joe”….It was fucking James Bond. I ‘d be honored to be killed by James Bond. Even on my tomb stone it would read ” James Bond killed me….how cool is that. :)”

          • Kai

            I haven’t seen Skyfall but I remember reading something about a security guard getting killed and a Macau hooker. I dunno how much total running time was cut out for that movie, but I did see Cloud Atlas and apparently like over 40 minutes of that was cut. I saw it in theatres and was pretty peeved when I found out afterwards.

          • BiggJ

            I think it’s best if foreign movies just leave China right out of it. Don’t even mention the name china. China makes such a good enemy though. lol Did they censor the mission impossible movie? I can’t remember which one…maybe the 3rd? Tom Cruise swings to some building in Shanghai and kills a bunch of guards. lol

          • Kai

            LoL, yeah, I thought of that MI movie too. I don’t remember if it was released in theatres in China so I dunno if that movie was censored. I only remember the most recent MI4 Ghost Protocol movie being in theatres here.

            The whole globalization thing definitely makes it harder to treat China like the Soviets were treated back then. Can’t really alienate the wallets you want to stick a finger in.

          • BiggJ

            I found this link of some movie that were changed for China.

            http://www.thewrap.com/gallery/movies-hollywood-changed-china-photos-83336

            Some things sure they can censor like sex, or blatant disrespect for chinese people. Most of the things they block are just stupid. like the men and black 3 scene…That don’t even take place in China. It overkill sometimes.

  • ex-expat

    So I have been back in the US for two days now and I already miss China so much I have decided to move back. I love China so much I can’t be away from it.

    PSYCHE

    Fuck that place I am never going back.

    • MrT

      yea gets ya like that..

      • Beelzebub

        aint it so….still cant quite figure it out, first year, couldnt wait to bolt from SZ, got home and after a week or two of seeing familiar faces, drinking and such, got bored shitless and couldnt wait to go back, funny old world….

        • 5,000 years of uncivilization

          It’s been a love/hate relationship for me so when i left the first time in 2003, it wasn’t long before i was ready to return. I found that after being away for such a long time, things seemed different and my old friends were gone. I returned to China about 4 months after i had left. The second time i left in 2005, i was gone 4 years, living in Spain, France and NYC but still missed China so much that here i am again. I still get bored sometimes but never lonely in China. As long as i can avoid H7N9 while in Shanghai this week.

          • Beelzebub

            I’d like you to email me on this, the first part you wrote is exactly what happened to me, more or less. Things DO seem different, and old friends have gone/moved on, or at the very least, they sure as shyte ain’t interested in your adventures climbing rocks in yangshuo, getting pissed and eating shaokao, dating chinese gals and so on, they’ve got older and fatter and often more in debt and paid more into their mortgage, and for them life has moved beyond what your friendship was before……

          • 5,000 years of uncivilization

            Yes sir, indeed. moldavidian @ guess the rest or try 2coldhere @ the other address you were thinking about.

          • ex-expat

            I don’t know, you guys don’t feel like there is more to life than China? For me, I had been living in Beijing for about three and a half years. I am at the point where my Chinese is very good, and I have seen a lot of the country. I just got sick of:

            the pollution
            worrying about the food I eat
            fake alcohol
            shit heads cutting in line
            an immoral, dishonest, and generally shitty business and social culture that mistakenly believes it is superior
            the news constantly talking shit about the US
            shitty internet
            people trying to practice English with me

            I mean, yeah, people treat me like a superstar or something sometimes, but it isn’t real, it is just because of where I was born and the language I speak. True my friends are different now, but that is ok, so am I. I think the world is a big place and there is lots more to see.

          • Beelzebub

            OK, there is annoying and rude shit, but dude, ever had a turn around on your head? I was basically bleeding homeless in Hong Kong and the UK….but one gets over such things. It’s all an attitude adjustment at times, enjoy the ride while it lasts,doesn’t have to be forever

          • Irvin

            fuck! you’re right! I’m going to spain now………….although I don’t speak spanish. puta!

          • 5,000 years of uncivilization

            I agree for the most part but seeing as how finding work in Europe is very unlikely, i don’t have many options. Although, i have been thinking of Australia more and more. On my way to my room just now, some smoking drunks got on the elevator with me. I couldn’t tell if they were just curious or if they wanted to kill me but i realized one thing for sure… if i was Chinese, they wouldn’t have even looked up. Totally racist on their part. Or maybe i just don’t get drunk people.

          • ex-expat

            actually i am moving to sydney in a month if you want I can let you know how it is

          • 5,000 years of uncivilization

            Thanks. I’m curious how difficult it is to find work for one who is not Australian.

          • Ex-expat

            I got a working holiday visa which was really easy. All I had to do was go to the hospital and get a chest x ray. From there you can probably do a search for working visa holiday jobs

          • 5,000 years of uncivilization

            That’s easy enough. Thanks.

          • mr.wiener

            Get in the trades, sparky or plumber, fast track to working visa. Might have to do an aprenticeship but make big money.

          • 5,000 years of uncivilization

            Except i can’t see myself doing any of those things, especially at my age but thanks.

          • ex-expat

            yeah the staring is something i never got over

          • kevinnolongerinpudong

            I left Shanghai in 2006 after 5 years, and I have never been happier. Line-cutting, overcharging, taxi drivers taking the long route, everyone wanting to practice English, overcrowded spaces, horrendous food, horrendous air, ugly nationalism. Sure I’ll go back to Hong Kong or Taiwan, but everyone knows they’re not really part of China, that’s some different shit… especially in terms of the issues noted above.
            If you’re into China, that’s cool, stay as long as you please! But let me tell you, if you’re wondering on a daily basis whether to leave or not, just go! Besides the fucking, what’s left in China?

    • Foreign Devil

      China is only fun if you are a single guy. If your not single . . fuggedaboudit!

      • Beelzebub

        what if single and poor, not much fun id wager?

        • Foreign Devil

          A a foreigner in China .. .you don’t have to be rich. . The three C’s only apply to Chinese guys. You can always just give the impression you have tremendous wealth back home. if you feel that’s a problem.

          • Beelzebub

            Not so sure anymore dude…but appreciate the props

          • don mario

            white, reasonably normal looking and not super old. thats the default thing that you need to have a constant supply of chinese girls entertain you.

          • ex-expat

            yeah thats true, but aside from some of them being pretty, do you really like the way they act, etc?

            I feel like our cultures are really different, and they are often just looking to practice English, which is never as good as my Chinese.

          • don mario

            yea i like certain ones.. not the over the top babyish type.. the more natural type is good. well, i am hooked now anyway, there is no turning back for me, lol.

            if u wanna have a serious relationship some some understanding from both sides is gonna have to occur i think to make it work, nothing wrong with that if you are both willing to make it work. i just think most chinese girls are pretty oblivious to western culture, they outright expect their first white bf is gonna marry them , have kids and then have her parents come to live with them.

          • BiggJ

            Actually pretty much white will do it. :)

      • Rainer

        China is a good place only for those who nobody will grant a second glance at home.

        • Foreign Devil

          I’m not embarrassed to say that girls here in Toronto don’t give me a second glance. I’m decent looking. but not rich or outgoing. . So yeah China was good to me :) Even Chinese girls in Toronto have been good to me!

      • Irvin

        agree…..white will do it……

    • radbab

      China is like crack. It’s not good for you and it’s unhealthy, and here and there you realize that it’s really shitty and that you should be somewhere else. But then again you have some good times and you miss it when you’ve been away for a while.

      • Beelzebub

        What good is rule of law and being on the dole, is that good for you? I know a few guys who were drug addicts growing up,one thought it a good idea to rob the local post office for drug money, And you want me to go back to a UK which is much worse?!

        • don mario

          are you making a point that uk shouldnt have a dole system, and that creates a criminal slacker enviroment?

      • don mario

        yea, its true. took me a few years to realise it but i totally agree with you. your enviroment effects you mentally and physically, china is gonna bring you down in the gutter sooner or later..

    • donscarletti

      Well, there is one thing I miss about China when I am back home.

      It’s not the girls, honestly, talking to girls back home is just as easy if you’ve got a bit of confidence. I’ve got a girlfriend anyway so it doesn’t mean much either way.

      It’s not the food, plenty of stuff I like to eat in either country.

      It’s one thing and one thing alone. Back home, when I say something utterly socially unacceptable, people will ask “is something wrong with you mate?” or “what’s your fucking problem?” In China, nobody makes a comment or points this stuff out, because, hey, foreigners are meant to be crass and weird, and honestly, to be crass by Chinese standards requires you to say some pretty extreme things.

      I find that being in China makes you pretty repulsive pretty quickly, but it doesn’t matter as long as you are in China.

  • Bugs Bunny

    i wish more people die…

    this world is so annoying when full of human pieces.

    • BiggJ

      You’ve got bigger problems to worry about……

      • Beelzebub

        hahahaha!

      • linette lee

        hahahah…….whats up doc?

      • Bugs Bunny

        hahahaha! thanks!

        i like bugs bunny so much when i was a kid because once an indigan leader kissed him, he was so disgusted, so just spit directly,from that moment i felt that bunny is so cute and funny.

        funnier was,when my niece watching tom and jerry, she always felt she was that jerry,once jerry was about to be killed, then she began to cry…

        • BiggJ

          Shhhhh…be varry varryy quiet….you talk too much you wasscaly wabbit. :)

          • Irvin

            ahhh the good old times, now people call me “uncle” and I’m not even married yet. Life got a way to fuck you over.

    • Alphy

      Wow hmm ok? Just put down that knife, and slowly back away from schools. Seriously though, there are many redeeming human beings out there. They just don’t get on the news.

    • don mario

      check yourself into a hospital please(not the first post from you that made me think that)

    • Irvin

      Yes, I hate humans too. they are so ugly both inside and out. I should know since I’m one myself.

  • linette lee

    You all know The chinese, the american, and the evil japanese. No other race on planet. ;)

    • the Korean will feel left out

      • Alphy

        Yeah, but they got their crazy to deal with already.

  • 5,000 years of uncivilization

    When will they learn to leave the animals alone? As long as they insist on caging them and butchering them, there will be such viruses. Humans seem intent on wiping themselves out acting like animals.

  • jeffli

    Only two weeks ago I said to my wife (20 dollar bet) “watch after these pigs we’ll see a bird flu outbreak next” I won! gee feel a bit feverish though.
    Chinese farmers, and technologist need to pull their fingers out! These diseases are always starting in China! Used to be from further south now these diseases are coming from shanghai and zhejiang! WTF?
    pig Flu +3 weeks not explanation = bird flu with human deaths

    • The Enlightened Out

      Jesus man, don’t you think you went a bit far just to win a $20.00 bets?

      You did it!

  • MrT

    All the spiting should help spread it quick and then pin point the cluster.

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    “Deliberately introduced by the US.” WRONG

    The flu virus travel the other way around. It goes from the U.S to Europe, whereupon it has mutated into something totally different. Then it moves to Russia, where it mutates again, before reaching Asia. And then it mutates again before getting on the first foreigner coming home, arriving in the U.S as a brand new virus.

    And that boys and girls is why you need flu vaccinations every year.

  • Ruaraidh

    High populations, densely packed together in crowded cities, poor hygiene and bad public health awareness/apathy. China and India are disease factories.

    • carmouflagger

      Made in China. :D

  • Cleo

    I wouldn’t raise expat children in China even though many Chinese believe that being born and raised on the Mainland for a few years give them permanent immunity for when they return to visit on those package tours.

    • Cleo

      what a coincidence – yesterday. the Independent UK reported this:

      A group of leading scientists has urged President Obama’s advisers to investigate the ethical issues raised by a decision to create a highly infectious strain of bird-flu virus that could be transmitted easily between people.

      The scientists, who include a former UK Government chief scientist and a Nobel laureate, said that it is “morally and ethically wrong” to create a new type of influenza virus in the laboratory that is more lethal and transmissible than what actually exists in nature.

      Two teams of flu researchers – led by Ron Fouchier of the Erasmus Medical Centre in Rotterdam and Yoshihiro Kawaoka of the University of Wisconsin-Madison – announced in 2011 that they had succeeded in mutating the H5N1 avian virus so that it could in theory be transmitted through the air between people.

      • SuperHappyCow

        Las Plagas. T-virus. C-VIRUS, OMG.

  • TikHien Souw

    Up to taoistic food …

  • Bolo

    I got out of China a while back after many years there. None of the “things will be great in the near future” bullshit predictions came true and you find years of your life missing that you spent in a place nobody wants to hear about or can relate to. The hardest hitting thing was just before our plane landed a stewardess announced “Ladies and Gentlemen, we will shortly be landing at London Heathrow, if its your first visit to the UK, we hope you enjoy your visit……… and for those of you from the UK, welcome home!”

    Okay, finding work etc is tough but to see blue skies, chat to everyone you meet and the tranquility of a good sleep every night, is irreplaceable. Making a bit more cash in a shithole like China, simply isn’t worth it!

    • KKKorean

      I agree, i traveled there for the 2008 summer olympics and the pollution was terrible then…I dont know why anyone in their right mind would live there. There are some serious cases of people dying of lung disease after living in Chinese toxic air when they grew up in a clean environment here .

  • Paul Schoe

    I am very impressed how quickly they first related a death to the bird flue and after that are working together with universities in other countries to further analyse the dna and try to prevent further spread.

    I know that many Chinese commentators complain that it took a couple of weeks after the first death to make it public, but it is not easy to diagnose. So all in all, it seems like a very good approach in a difficult and potentially very dangerous situation. They certainly gained points in my opinion about Chinese operations.

  • Cleo

    germ warfare

  • Washington Bullets

    I love how someone thinks the US had something to do with this… Some dumbass pig farmer has been associated with the CIA, KGB, the CDC, and every other “sinister ” organization.

  • KKKorean

    It actually is if you find the sources on Hugo Chavez and 8 other ex South Americans who have been diagnosed after meeting with American business conference at the same time period. Why do you think Sars happend at the same when Afghanistan was about to be invaded? Now same thing happens in Syria and this appear out of the blue, its as if the someone wants China to no focus on foreign policy? I’m not pro China in any way as a Korean American, but it’s very fishy.

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