‘How Can People of Different Genders Love Each Other’

Two asian homosexual men.

On Sina Weibo:

#How Can People of Different Genders Love Each Other#

Support homosexuality/homosexuals, LOVE IS LOVE, it has nothing to do with gender.


Sina Weibo poll asking if netizens' views on homosexuality has changed since 5 years ago.


Poll Question:

Have your views on homosexuality changed from 5 years ago?


Red Side:

Seeing the increase of friends around me who identify as homosexuals as well as the legalization of gay marriages in even more countries, I have gradually come to approve/accept homosexuality.

Over 16k votes at time of translation.

Blue Side:

Haven’t changed. From then till now, I am unable to understand homosexuality.

Nearly 2k votes at time of translation.


Comments on Sina Weibo:

少年G阿兰:

I’m a homosexual, and I don’t discriminate against heterosexuals.

EveryChung:

In the past, men decided the fates of women, white people decided the fates of black people. Now it is heterosexuals who decide the fates of homosexuals. What’s wrong with homosexuality? Who gives you the right to arbitrarily define them?

音悦纯粹爱V绝对:

There’s no shame in homosexuality, what’s shameful is that heart of intolerance in you people!!

我是你不繁亦不凡的那颗星吗:

As long as there’s love, neither gender nor whatever are problems.

枫_若希:

Still hoping for a future where [homosexuals] can marry in China.

yi哦吧_等14变4的咩_Gamekyu:

To love someone is to love their personality, to love the way they do things, to love the way they look at life, to love all kinds of things about them, so how can you not love them simply because they are the same sex?

呆小瓜鹅鹅鹅鹅鹅鹅鹅鹅鹅:

Love knows no borders, no race, no gender! I love you, regardless of whether you are a man or woman. What I seek is only sincerity [true love]. There is no crime in love! Those people who discriminate against homosexuals, when you fall in love with a person who is the same sex as you, how will you justify the things you have said before? Nothing is absolute, who knows [what might happen]?

工藤LEA:

We don’t love someone because it conforms to so-called conventions and norms, we love someone because of a connection between hearts/spirits.

Hello旅行者:

Homosexuality is disgusting, homosexuality is disgusting! It’d be better to choose to be single than to choose to be homosexual. Living by yourself is also very nice, without burden, without pressure [of or from a partner].

Einfach2: (responding to above)

Everyone has the right to pursue their own happiness, and we should respect every person’s dignity when we speak. You can not support it, but you can’t go attempting to destroy or obstruct others in poor taste. Humans have intelligence, so please conduct yourself with dignity when speaking.

夕阳武士RRR:

The moment I think of men with men, I just want to throw up. [When it’s] women with women, I just want to lend a hand.

Einfach2: (responding to above)

Oh, then you must be an animal without any intelligence, but how come you’re still wearing the skin of a human? You still don’t qualify [to be human].

u长空:

Turning a normal person into a homosexual only takes one money, even just one week. So don’t tell me bullshit about it being born [homosexual]. From when I was small, I’ve liked to take other kids’ things because it was really fun/pleasurable to me, so can we say I was born a robber? When you’ve done wrong, you must change! Evil thoughts must be extinguished! If it becomes something you do out of habit, then changing it will be even more painful.

随浠: (responding to above)

Hehe, why don’t you turn yourself into a homosexual in a month and give it a try? Sexual orientation is determined by many factors, it’s not something you can decide.

Gooner小尘:

Sexual orientation can’t be defined as a choice. Nobody would choose to live a lifestyle of being marginalized, suffering, and without a future.

爱在迷彩下:

Hey, genius, I beg you to change me from being a homosexual into what you call a normal person then. If you can make me interested in the opposite sex then I’ll be completely, especially, extremely, very grateful. What’s truly evil is your own inner heart, but time will make you understand/realize everything.

Have your views on homosexuality changed over time?

Two Chinese gay men forming a heart with their hands with rings on their fingers.

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  • Probotector

    I’d like to hear from Gay Azn Boy

    • mr.wiener

      Careful what you wish for.

    • Gay Azn Boi

      Funny. I was just reading another article on cS about identity issues and the last paragraph really struck a chord.

      “…my experiences have made me see that petty human distinctions such as race and nationality, not to mention gender and sexuality, don’t mean anything beyond the physical, beyond boxes on a form and the hue of a passport. They don’t determine anything when it comes to your life and they fall far short in defining who you are. Your identity, like your future, is something you construct for yourself.”

  • 剑胆琴心

    dislike gay and les…
    as long as they do not show off or up under the sun or online,it’s fine.

    • Archie

      Dislike you. As long as you do not show your ugly face in public or online, it’s fine.

      • 剑胆琴心

        so your gay?
        no wonder your anal opening huge behind your head…

        • Archie

          Nope, I’ve had sex with lots and lots of girls. Thankfully none with a head as ugly on the outside as it is on the inside – like yours

          • 剑胆琴心

            i am ugly or not none your business.as long as i can get free dinners it’s fine…
            good luck…

          • Archie

            others are gay or not is none of your business, as long as they don’t harm you it’s fine.

            good luck . . . you need it!

          • Angie_Mac77

            Wow. That is a very sad statement. Are you sure that’s what you meant?

          • 剑胆琴心

            why sad?
            i begin to 骗吃骗喝 very early.it’s very funny way to revenge guys.

          • Angie_Mac77

            Revenge guys? That sounds a little gay.

          • linette lee

            hey bunny, How was your mid autumn festival dinner with your family? Was it good? :)

            I think if you get to know the gay people you will like them. Your personality is direct and straight forward and fun. You can definitely hang out with some of these womanly man. But not all gay men are womanly. I have one male friend he is gay and he is just like really smart and hard working. He is dependable and caring.
            I don’t know why but the stereotype for gay men seems to be they are smart and very well dressed. And I do see a lot of them like that. A lot of them are professionals.

          • 剑胆琴心

            ha,they deleted my reply or whatever///
            shit!

          • MrC

            in America yes.

          • Jbabelover

            You can’t even put up a picture of you smiling? This pic of you is nothing but shadows, rain and gloominess. Look how sunny lonetrey / Dan is in his picture, reminds me of Funshine bear. For your free dinners, what position do you often find yourself in? Doggy style? Wonder why that is? Because they don’t have to look at your face.

          • MrC

            KFC, Pizza hut and McDonalds free dinners are not doing you a favor, see avatar.

          • Repatriated

            “i am ugly or not none your business.as long as i can get free dinners it’s fine…”

            free dinners are all there is to life? lol. and you worry about who’s gay?

          • Germandude

            Washing dishes instead of paying for the meal is contradicting the definition of “free dinners”…
            But here is the thing. If I ever met you in a restaurant, I would treat you for a free dinner. Take away food, so that I don’t need to see you while I enjoy my meal…

    • Angie_Mac77

      Understandable. You are afraid. Afraid of what is different.

    • Boris

      Precisely. I don’t mind gays, but some of them just try to force it down your throat. ; )

    • bboooo

      come eat my pussy

      • 剑胆琴心

        you even have face to write to me, fucking sob!

        • boo

          COME EAT MY MEATY JUICY PUSSY!

          • 剑胆琴心

            You go die, old mfker!
            do not pretend woman here!idiot!

          • Washington Bullets

            So angry! I mean, I’m not gay, but I don’t harbor an extreme hatred for gays. Some gay activists are a little too over the top sometimes, very pushy, but I don’t care what they do. If I had rights abridged though, I’d probably be pretty passionate about it too.

            What makes you feel this passionate dislike for them?

          • chosan

            I am religious myself, but what you see mostly reflects specifically the CHinese christian community

          • ptptp

            Lots of people are a little over the top and very pushy, why should gays be any different?

  • Angie_Mac77

    I gotta say, this is something I think China is doing okay at. Despite their terrible history with gay acknowledgement, the country seems devoid of gay bashing (of the violent kind). Yeah, they think it’s weird, but they think I’m weird just for not being Chinese. I’ve seen quite a few very obvious gay couples since I’ve been in China, and it’s cool that they’re pretty open to it.

    • Cauffiel

      It may seem “open” but Chinese generally do not publicly criticize each other (to save face). Its all done behind closed doors.

    • Ami

      I think most East Asian countries are like that. Being gay is “not encouraged” but its not like you’ll get your ass kicked either. I think the most open gay country in the world is probably Thailand in SE Asia, at least bangkok is.

    • Brett

      I found out the hard way that Thursday nights in Changsha are the unofficial “gay nights” at the clubs. There are troves of young gays out having a blast.

      • Claude

        There must be Gay clubs in China? When I lived in Korea a friend surprised me by taking me to a Gay club. He had a student that was Gay. If a conservative place like Korea has Gay clubs so must China. So why would they have “unofficial gay nights”? Not being critical just wondering out loud.

        • Brett

          I don’t know about gay clubs in China, just as most Koreans don’t know about gay clubs in Korea. All I know is that I walked into a club at around midnight and the first thing that happened was a guy grabbed my assignment as his 2 boyfriends tried to pull me up on the dance floor. :-(

          • Claude

            No harm no foul. Just make it clear you’re not gay and it’s still a good time. Dancing and drinks.

            Had this straight (I’m not gay) friend that would go to gay bars to get the older guys to buy him drinks. He’d get shit faced, then go to straight clubs to pick up girls. He was a player. We would walk down the street and every now and then some girl would walk buy and say “Hi ****cy”. He’d be like “Slept with her.”

          • Jahar

            Yeah i know there’s one in Wuhan

          • Plenty in Hangzhou and Shanghai I guess too. I’ve seen lesbian couples walking around the west lake area in Hangzhou at night. Problem is, anyone who is in ANY way different is going to get hated on in lala land. Pill popping, tattooed, bar fly, whatever, if you are not a stuffed shirt drone, there will always be the comments of ” bu hao’!

        • carmouflagger

          Not sure about gay clubs but ive been to a lesbian club in Nanjing. Glorious little place :)

          • Peter Wilton Cushing

            Do tell, where is this gem?

  • Jun Kim

    Is it just me or does 剑胆琴心 look and think like a miserable c-word? Look at that photo. Usually people try to make themselves look as best they can in a photo. So is that 剑胆琴心 looking her best? She looks like the ancient spirit of misery disguising itself as a human woman. Imagine the horror of living in the same house at that monster. Do you live alone 剑胆琴心?

    • 剑胆琴心

      ????
      i ever said bad thing to you???what’s wrong with my photo???why you have to say things like this?
      you should insult me without any reason…
      or your another gay?

      • Angie_Mac77

        “I ever said a bad thing to you???” “Or your another gay?”

      • Cauffiel

        Fuck him, 剑胆琴心. I think your comments are stupid, but anyone who makes such virulent personal attacks on a BBS has got to have some nasty shit going on in his own life. You should request a moderator to delete his comment.

        • 剑胆琴心

          fuck off both of you two!

          • MrC

            i like this statement.

        • mr.wiener

          No good deed ever went unpunished.

          • Cauffiel

            Its ok, it was just a brief moment I felt especially nice. But that moment has come and gone.

            剑胆琴心, why does your face look like an abortion?

            Hey 剑胆琴心, the Holocaust called! It wants its horror back!

  • Alexander

    This should be considered a good thing, why because with all the gays and lesbos this creates many couples which cannot have children together. So because queer couples cannot reproduce, then the male+female Han couples should be allowed to have more than one child. Repeal the one child policy!

    • Probotector

      I think there’ll be more fighting over adoptions, more kidnapping and more child trafficking.

    • MrC

      every one i met got a least two kids.

    • chosan

      the 1st species to have gays were penguins. Pupulation is not kept in check they are all over South Africa. What does Hans have to do with gAY?, thats like saying Han-guo has to do with straights

      • David

        Since most species have individuals who demonstrate actions we would classify as gay, to say that penguins were first seems pretty silly (especially since it seems birds have only been around about the same amount of time as mammals).

      • Alexander

        Okay, Mr. Zoologist, but yet your claim is wrong because the World Wildlife Federation lists the African penguin as endangered, some animal expert you are……
        To answer your question, Han Chinese are the majority ethnic group in China, the one child policy applies to them, but doesn’t apply to Chinese minorities such as Hui, ManZu, Miao…etc etc. So in case you don’t know, homosexuals aren’t able to reproduce, so therefore, why not make up for the difference and allow straight Han couples to have two children….? I suppose if you spent more time learning about China and less time concerned about gay penguins you would know this information about China and the one child policy…..

        • Probotector

          This idea of course depends on the proportion of Chinese people who are gay vis a vis the straight population.

          • Alexander

            hey hey hey now, that’s too scientific and exact…. this is cyberspace where the BS is always plentiful….

    • David

      So it is only the non-Han minorities that are gay? Good to know. If I thought it was a conscious choice I would say increase the number of gay men in China to 20%, then the rest would be able to find a woman. Also, since we are pretending it is a conscious choice all the ugly women can become lesbians so that leaves more beautiful women for the men.

      I mean if we are going to make silly comments lets take it to its logical conclusion. At birth you will be tagged as gay/straight in accordance with the newest 5 year plan to adjust the population. as you get older you will be informed of your choice and be raised accordingly. Those who are straight can have as many kids as they want and those who are gay will just have lots of fun sex with no procreation. Now, if we can just test genetically for who has the best potential in the brains department it would be a eugenicists’ dream on how to shape a population.

      • Alexander

        You missed the point. The point is gays don’t reproduce, meaning the birth rate will be lowered with increasing numbers of homosexuals. The one child policy affects only Han Chinese, it doesn’t apply to minorities such as the Hui or ManZu, that’s why I specified Han (I don’t make the laws in China, that;s just how it is). So I am saying why not end the one child policy or make it a two child policy…..because gays aren’t reproducing, so why not allow straight Han couples to have two children? Why do you find the need to twist it into something negative?

        • David

          I actually do get the point that gay people do not reproduce by normal means (that is kinda at the center of everything I wrote). But, I think you are taking what I wrote way too personally. It was not a negative twisting of what you said, I actually thought it up all on my own (and will take full credit because it was not a serious suggestion it was parody). The only part that really applies to what you said is removing the restriction on Han having children. I do not believe the Han are the only ones restricted. Yes, many ethnic minorities in the hinterland are allowed to have multiple children but Han are not the only ones restricted. I don’t think I attributed the rest of my silly fiction to you, it certainly was not meant to make that impression. I assumed your comments were also in jest. If you meant it as a realistic solution to the population problem it is missing a few things which will make it viable. Starting with the idea of gay couples never wanting to actually have children just because they don’t bone members of the opposite sex. Plenty of gay people of both genders have children the old fashion way, and by artificial insemination in western countries. So, please do not think I was bashing you in anyway, I was joining in the fun.

          • Alexander

            Its all good man. That’s the problem with written communication as opposed to verbal, much harder to pick-up on what the writer is really hinting at. Yeah, that’s what is all about, make light of the situation, please do join in the fun. I try to put a positive spin on the situation so both gays and straight people can be happy as if that’s possible…. About the one child policy, my sources say the official stance is ethnic minorities are exempt from it. ” Exceptions are already made for couples anywhere in China where both parents are single children, as well as for people in rural areas whose first child is a girl and for ethnic minorities.” http://www.economist.com/news/china/21573579-china-may-have-begun-long-end-game-its-one-child-policy-experts-say-it-cannot-end-soon

      • Probotector

        What are you talking about? He didn’t say that at all.

  • Wololoo

    I recently saw a lot of gay couples on the street (men holding hands).

    I think for men it is not seen as normal to hold hands like girls, so I reckon they were gay.

    This comment was quite nice:
    “Everyone has the right to pursue their own happiness, and we should respect every person’s dignity when we speak. You can not support it, but you can’t go attempting to destroy or obstruct others in poor taste. Humans have intelligence, so please conduct yourself with dignity when speaking.”

    • Angie_Mac77

      I’ve seen a lot of obviously gay couples in China since I’ve been here. Good for them! At least they’re honest.

    • MrC

      no its normal for boys to hold hands, hug each other, walk with arms around each other shoulders ,

      They are not gay its a boy friends culture thing in China.
      That said there is hell a lot of gays in china and very open about it.
      Many gay bars. They have there own gay momo. (gaygay?)

      Lots are bi sexual .
      also many high school students are gay. one of my GFs pointed this out to me.
      Also many lesbians.
      Its very normal in China.

      • Dick Leigh

        Yeah, summer in China is full of false-advertising. My heart lurches every time I see two sweaty guys wearing hardly any clothig holding on to each other on an e-bike.

  • 剑胆琴心

    there is a gay bar close to my place.i did not know.
    once i had lunch there,the cashier man made me so uncomfortable,typical gay.so i got back checked online,it’s a gay bar…
    why they just can not behave in a normal way?smile like a shy girl,wink eyes,shake body,talk like a cat…fuck it!

    • Angie_Mac77

      I went to a disco that a friend recommended, and it turned out to be a gay disco. Personally, I didn’t care. I know who I am, and not afraid of those who are different. Also, not looking for a free meal. I use my mind for money, not my …

    • Cauffiel

      Most homosexuals are not flamboyant and act like girls. They’re just the ones you always notice.

    • bboooo

      come eat my pussy

      • 剑胆琴心

        get out, fight!

        • boo

          COME EAT MY PUSSY

          • 剑胆琴心

            go die early,fucker!

    • lonetrey / Dan

      Eattot, this is why people mention you
      whenever they talk about homophobia :(

      I’ll respect the fact that it’s your opinion and your life,
      so I won’t criticize you….

      but surely you can’t be surprised when
      people bring you up in these topics then?

  • Cauffiel

    To hell with these purposely loaded questions coming from the homosexual-normalization movement.

    “Haven’t changed. From then till now, I am unable to understand homosexuality.” Which is to say, if one dislikes homosexuality, that means they don’t understand it; and if they DO understand it, then it is predetermined by the laws of the universe that they will like it.

    Like most social justice movements, the ringleaders of the gay movement are irresponsible and deeply, deeply intellectually dishonest.

    Activists: gay or not…. they’re definitely faggots!

    • mr.wiener

      I don’t care if people are gay or not, or like gays or not, just so long as their rights are respected.
      Best quote I heard was :there are 2 kinds of people who are against gay marriage. Stupid people and people who are secretly worried dicks are delicious.

      • Probotector

        Nice piece of liberal Western progressive propaganda there. However, when homosexuality is decried in Asia, or the Islamic world, will you so delightfully label them “stupid people [or] people who are secretly worried dicks are delicious”, or does this only apply when it’s done by white people?

        • KAMIKAZIPILOT

          I’d apply wiener’s logic to everyone, regardless of race, religion, culture, etc. I don’t think you can justify hating gays just because they’re gay, just like I don’t think you can justify torturing animals or domestic abuse. There are many differences among the people of the world but some things just can’t be justified with culture or religion, etc. You can’t justify beating your wife or torturing animals or hating gays by saying in your culture or religion it’s an accepted practice so it’s okay.

          • Probotector

            I’m glad to hear it.

    • MrC

      I’m all for gays being gays.
      I’m against lesbians being lesbians.
      For obvious reasons.

    • I like your posts as a fellow english teacher, but here I cannot agree. It is like saying activists:students or not…..they’re definitely poor hippies. Or all muslim protesters are terrorists. Making sweeping generalizations is never good, and what one race in particular are very good at. Happy holidays.

      • Cauffiel

        I think you misunderstand the spirit of my post because you’re hung up on the epithetical meaning of the word “faggot,” which is not the one I intended.

        Please watch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F_Word_(South_Park) and get back to me.

        • Fair enough. No time for cartoons though my dear boy, and nor should you. If Americans put as much effort into dating chinese girls as they do of finding ways to access their beloved youtube in China, they would be far happier. Do you have a chinese girlfriend, and if not, why not?

    • Kai

      LoL, yeah, that poll response was pretty loaded and/or leading. It helps to know that these Weibo topics can be started by pretty much anyone and this one was started by what appears to be a homosexual individual. Poll results will therefore be influenced by a number of factors including self-selection.

      • Cauffiel

        I can tell where its coming from, we have things just like this all over the English-language internet. I don’t care about gays, I just find social activists repulsive.

  • Probotector

    Since when did China go all pro-gay? Wasn’t homosexuality classed as a mental illness here only about 10 years ago?

    • TJDubs

      Something tells me the sample of comments here doesn’t reflect overall public sentiment in terms of proportionality.

      • Cauffiel

        Yeah, I’ve had students who talked to me about it…. they are scared to be out. They think either their family will hate them or people will physically attack them. A lot of homosexual men in China get married to women and have a kid because it sucks more not to.

      • Ami

        Yeah, internet polls tend to be really,really skewed.
        Even more so when done with politics as no site is really ever in the “middle”! Its usually conservative vs liberal, young vs old, this area vs that.

      • Kai

        Yeah, informal Weibo polls like this aren’t exactly scientifically adminsitered or statistically rigorous. It just represents the people who participated in it, which is influenced by how people found their way to it. Since it was started by a gay person, it probably had disproportionate exposure to people who are of like-mind and their friends.

  • TheSOP

    Spend some time in Thailand and you forget that homosexuals face issues elsewhere….I just wonder how the Thai population will continue beyond three generations (importing farang/laowais to pick up the slack hehehe)? I’m sure China has enough in the closet to give Thailand a run for its money :P! That would be pretty interesting if the Thai model caught on in China. Well with China’s sex ratio so skewed it might be the wave of the future!

    • 剑胆琴心

      im sure your that type of white trash go to thailand buy cheap sex or boy sex.
      die early.

      • Probotector

        @mrwiener:disqus
        Surely insighting people to commit suicide deserves moderation.

        • Rei Yu Tian

          Need Hammer

          • Probotector

            I wonder if Mr. Wiener is that ripped in real life.

          • Rei Yu Tian

            I think he plays rugby, lifting the hammer should be no problem. XD

          • mr.wiener

            Sadly at a mere 90kgs and 187cms mr.wiener is considered the runt of the litter by all his siblings.

          • linette lee

            you are very fit. :) Post your photo in the avatar. This one I can’t see your face.

          • Germandude

            187 cm? You dwarf!

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            For Christ sake, I’d give up my car to be 187 cm. You family would be like giants compared to me. Unfortunately I’m shorter than my dad, that’s not supposed to happen, in my extended family I’m one of the few people who are shorter than their fathers. Wish I drank more milk growing up.

          • Kai

            LoL, yeah, me too, though only barely. My dad also cheats because he combs his hair up. I’m waiting for age to shrink him. My younger siblings are all taller than me. *gnashing of teeth*

          • lonetrey / Dan

            Holy crap. I was about to explode with surprise at 198lb/ 6+ft until I realized that was sarcasm. Good grief you are big o_o

        • MrC

          yes there certainly seems to be double standards on moderation on this BBS site,
          I suspect there is old boys network in force here.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            Mr T is that you? Don’t play coy with me now.

          • MrC

            MrT is my uncle, he disappeared last week, some men in suits come to the factory and took him away along with his computer. Last words were “im going on a long vacation and hold the fort”.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            Sounds like his antics finally caught up to him, I never really did like that Mr T, but shhh, don’t tell him that. Be careful what you write and speak, Big Brother is probably watching your every move.

          • MrC

            yes he very crazy man. He got hit in the head a lot when he was younger, i think he sustained brain damage.
            Everyone avoid him at the factory. He would sit in office all day doing things on the computer.
            Very relaxed now he’s gone but not much work going on.

        • David

          I think what she is saying is that if you buy sex from boy prostitutes you will get a disease (I assume she means AIDS) and die early, as opposed to telling them to kill themselves. I think we are all against pedophilia with forced, underage prostitutes, the gay type or the straight type (both of which are very prominent in Thailand).

          • Probotector

            Whatever. Then insighting people to ‘get themselves killed somehow’ deserves moderation. Her intentions are the same; she wises death upon him, (and it’s not the first time) and this shouldn’t be tolerated. Don’t nitpick.

          • Germandude

            Considering her IQ combined with her level of English, what she probably meant to say was: “I think gay couples should just have a happy life like anybody else should”.
            Her statements often get lost in translation…

          • Kai

            Come on now, you’ve witnessed or been party to enough eattot-dogpiling to know better and at least know she’s not literally inciting people to kill themselves. In fact, intentionally Interpreting and passing her “die early” off as anything more literal than “fuck yourself” can be described as nitpicking.

            Now, her propensity to reply to just about everything with a string of expletives has worn out our patience and leniency, but those of you who reliably expect her to say something ridiculous and then happily dogpile her aren’t entirely innocent either. It’s become a pattern, one you guys know and parake in, so let’s not pretend to be all shocked and offended.

          • Probotector

            Fair enough, but I don’t troll her either, like the others do. In this case, I was just pointing out her unfair behaviour to a moderator, an action I thought you’d welcome.

          • Kai

            Hah, wouldn’t characterize her behavior as merely “unfair”. As @mrwiener:disqus can attest, we’ve been watching her behavior for some time since she’s regularly been flagged. We’ve been lenient to her because she’s mostly expressing her opinion and we don’t mind people flaming each other a bit to express their disagreements as long as it doesn’t boil over and get out of control.

            Most people ignore eattot or know to not take her seriously, especially the people who dogpile her regularly so we didn’t mind letting her and that group have their little inside joke since she doesn’t complain and seems to enjoy giving shit as much as she’s taking it. Fair play in a way as long as it doesn’t overly pollute the rest of the comments.

            Sadly, it’s gotten to a point where we think it is, that her string of expletive responses are getting out of control and the pattern is getting disruptive precisely because it is neverchanging.

            If you want to point something out to mods, the best way is still to flag comments or contact us via our contact form. The latter is slightly better because you can explain why you think certain comments or commenters are afoul of our comment policy.

          • Probotector

            Well, I’m not an informant, and I don’t really care about what she says. Also, I don’t think there’s even a flag option available anymore. I just think Mr. Wiener is efficient at policing the site and I thought I’d be helpful, but it’s not something I relish getting involved in.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            When you mouse over a comment there’s a flag symbol in the far upper right hand corner, when you mouse over it it says “flag as inappropriate”. I’ve never used it myself but I just noticed it a few days ago too.

          • Kai

            Oops, didn’t notice you already replied to @disqus_5xS38xIeTi:disqus. Thanks.

            We’ll have to add a link to the comment policy above the comments section one of these days. Relying on people to explore the FAQ page is, well, unreliable.

          • Kai

            The flagging option is where it has always been, and there’s also a guide on how to use it in the comment policy.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            How do we contact you via contact form? I’ll probably only use this for really inflammatory comments.

          • Kai

            Contact form is on the About page. It’ll get routed to us. Just don’t expect us to be online 24/7 to respond immediately.

            Please note that flagging a comment is still the best way to direct our attention to specific comments. Emailing us just lets you make a case which is only useful when you think a comment is borderline and not obviously against our comment policy. In fact, if you email us, please link us directly to the comments in question because cS gets hundreds of comments a day and it’s hard to wade through it all. To get the direct link to a comment, right click the time stamp next to a commenter’s name (x minutes/hours/days ago) and copy the link address, then paste it into the contact form.

        • mr.wiener

          It has.

      • TheSOP

        wowzers you are on a roll today girl! Aunt Flow making her monthly visit?

        • 剑胆琴心

          you go die early!
          even have face to write to me, fucking low dog.

          • TheSOP

            你怎么了? 月经到了吗?吻吻吻

          • bboooo

            ni wen wo de pi gu ma

          • TheSOP

            你的屁股有什么滋味??

          • bboooo

            it tastes like eattot

          • TheSOP

            おいしいですね!

          • TheSOP

            明天在翠湖见面,你请我吃饭在萨尔瓦多就原谅啦

          • MrC

            you can get pill to help you through this moment of life.

      • TheSOP

        BTW I don’t roll around Asia solely looking for sex, although it does find me from time to time. No need to buy and boys aren’t my thing.

        • bboooo

          why? because you have a call-boy hotline and offer it with discount or free?

          • TheSOP

            Yes that is actually exactly what I do, thanks for your keen interest and observation. You want some mandango?

      • 二奶头发

        After reading some of your posts I have to ask you.

        Do you really want people to die early or for them to go die early?

        Insulting people is one thing but wishing them to die…

        it’s just an internet forum….calm down…

        • Probotector

          They say internet trolling is like alcohol; it releases one’s inhibitions because there’s (supposedly) no consequences to saying what you want to people, and it lets people reveal who they really are.

      • Claude

        Have you been to Thailand? There are so many single mainland Chinese men in Thailand. So if we’re going to generalize white men in Thailand then we have to generalize all the Chinese men walking around must be pedophiles with aids in Thailand, right? Did I get that Right? They must be trashy Chinese pedophiles. Thailand sees over 10 million tourists a year. Don’t reduce a rich and prosperous society to just sex tourism. Chinese cities have brothels on every corner so all men in China both foreign and Chinese alike must be whoring, right? Did I get that right? China’s not a rich culture with 5000 years of history?

        Have you a modicum of critical thought in your empty fucking head? STFU you simpleton and think before you post!

      • symon

        Aww hello, it’s princess pei pei! Lovely to have your, toxic… erm… i mean, charming — presence in our midst!

      • TheSOP

        Six guest votes, I guess we know the insecure little ones are around :P inferiority complex is strong!

      • Dick Leigh

        My chinese boyfriend JUST went to Thailand with a big group of his (all chinese) gay friends. It’s a huge destination for gay Chinese men.

  • Rei Yu Tian

    I don’t see anything wrong with Gays and Lesbians. As long as they are not overly flamboyant and attention whoring.

    • Cauffiel

      Yes, but that’s true of any group… American blacks, Yankees fans, pop stars. Nobody likes attention whores.

  • Jahar

    I just can’t get on board with those fingernails. Cut the damn things.

    • MrC

      the long fingernails is not a gay indication, many boys have long fingernails, again its that Chinese boys culture thing.
      Strange I know but China is a very confused place.

      • MrC

        same thing with hair styles..

      • MrC

        and wearing makeup

      • Jahar

        Yeah i know it’s a guy thing, not a gay thing. Im pretty amazed 2 people on here disagree with me about it.

        • Probotector

          In Beijing recently, I had a taxi driver (male) with 2 inch-long fingernails, I shit you not.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            Were his nails starting to curve already? Was his personality normal otherwise? He’s either really lazy and didn’t want to cut his nails or he needed them to dig his ears and nose, and maybe his butt, or maybe a fashion statement. Actually a slightly long fingernail does serve some miscellaneous purposes sometimes, lol. Such as scraping things off when you don’t have anything else to use. Occasionally I use my fingernails to scrape food when washing dishes if it’s only a little bit. But really 2 inches is way too long. That’s just gross.

          • maybeabanana

            They claim it is for picking earwax and boogers.

        • MrC

          I used to think a lot of things I seen the boys doing here or how they seem was very gay, but i started asking people and they said no, is how they are, Like everything in China, its never what it seems to first appear to be.
          I was quite surprised to find out many gays there are.
          In recent years im getting a lot of hits from gay Chinese men on the chat systems, gets annoying at times, they very persistent dont like taking no for a answer and very upfront about it.
          One of my girlfriends senior high she was showing me all the gays at the school and the chat systems they use, its widespread and they aint hiding the fact.
          Chinese dont seem to be gay in the same way gays are in the west, they got a whole new thing going on.
          Its probably why so many gay westerners are coming here now…

    • MrC

      also cloths

    • Ana Belen Ruiz

      no, why?? they are good for scratching xD

  • Jbabelover

    @smack you call the above lighthearted insults or what? Was mine a little too heavy for you? How would you determine that? Neh I don’t expect much.

  • KAMIKAZIPILOT

    I try to treat gays the same as everyone else, there are gays that are good people and some that are bad, just like everyone else. What I don’t like is some of them trying to glorify their lifestyle, like it’s something special and that they deserve special rights. Gay love isn’t anymore special than straight love, just like interracial relationships aren’t anymore special than relationships between those of the same race. I just don’t like it when gay people try to prove they’re special compared to the rest of us and try to draw so much attention to themselves, other than that I have no problem with them.

    • Rei Yu Tian

      Right! Over flamboyancy will only draw in a negative perspective of homosexuality. No need to glorify it~

    • linette lee

      Are you gay? ;) Many gay men still marry women to hide their homosexuality.

      • KAMIKAZIPILOT

        Well I’m not gay but I do like to wear granny panties and a bra under my shirt and pants. Sometimes if I’m in the mood I’ll wear lipstick, eyeliner and a dress at home.

        • mr.wiener

          You like to eat drink and be Mary, that’s cool bro.

        • Dick Leigh

          Cross-dressing and homosexuality aren’t really related.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            That’s good to know.

          • mr.wiener

            They are just kissing cousins.

    • waihang

      Greetings from Putin, he thinks you’re an sensible human being!

    • maybeabanana

      That’s pretty much like feminism, or any other clubs that promotes, and voices their rights to whatever. It is a issue because they make it an issue. I used to have several gay friends, and my cousin has came out to me. I don’t hate nor am phobic about it but I don’t think its the nature of the human body. Aside from that, the negative effects it seems to have on developed societies are that they tend to make people accepting that it’s okay for a man to be feminine and metro to a point where they lose the origins of a man’s characteristic. It’s okay to whine and wear make up. It’s okay to be a string bean with no strength aptitude and etc etc. This seems like people are heading to weaker state and that is my gripe…not against homosexuals but just people creating problems about injustice by saying something is unjustified. /end rant

      • KAMIKAZIPILOT

        Well I don’t always agree that it’s an issue because they make it an issue, after all there is real discrimination towards gays just like racism is real. There’s just a line between fighting discrimination and blowing this whole oppression thing out of proportion. I realize everyone has different opinions that’s why it’s hard to know where to draw the line. Homosexuality actually is a part of nature, the are many examples of homosexuality in the animal kingdom. Just because it’s a fairly small minority doesn’t mean it isn’t natural for that portion of the population. It’s only considered deviant by some because they’re the minority, and therefore considered “abnormal”. If the numbers were reversed (most of society was gay), then heterosexuality would be considered abnormal and maybe against nature. I don’t like this whole metrosexual movement either, but really they’re not hurting anyone so I can’t say I hate them, it’s just not for me and I wouldn’t really hang out with those kinds of people.

        • maybeabanana

          Yep, whales and some other land animals have homosexual acts. When I say unnatural it is mean to correlate to the nature of reproduction for living beings of course aside from asexual seahorses. Sexuality to me is a complex subject where beings do act on their urges which is what makes it so powerful and complex. But reproductive sex is made inherently imo for the survival of a species. Natural sex is complying to the function it’s made to be. Otherwise to me its not natural to the base function is what I’m trying to say.

      • SuLiaodai

        Well, there are plenty of macho gay guys, it’s just that they “fly under the wire” because when you see an effeminate guy, you think “that guy’s gay,” but when you see a more macho/average homosexual, you assume he’s straight. If he didn’t tell you he was gay you’d have no way of knowing.

        • maybeabanana

          You seriously think you can’t tell if a guy is gay or are you just that daft? So.. what you are saying is it’s okay for men.. whom are originally manly as characteristics are defined to be okay to act like girly whiners? Or people have become so lenient and tolerant for a characteristic of females that is not respectable like gossiping and generally starting drama?

          • SuLiaodai

            No, what I’m saying is the reason you think gay guys are all effeminate is that it’s clear the effeminate guys are gay.*

            However, there are plenty of guys walking around who you think are straight but really aren’t. You just think they’re straight because they fit your stereotypes about straight men. I mean, there are whole gay subcultures based on machismo, like leathermen, bears, gaybros. Then there are guys who are in the closet because they don’t want to lose their jobs, and the guys who are pretty average, like sports and beer, whatever, but also like to have sex with men.

            *But then again, I have a coworker who is really effeminate, but he’s actually a gigantic poonhound, so even then you can’t be 100% sure.

    • winterbitten

      While I agree with your point to a large extent, I want to shed my opinion for a moment.

      I don’t necessarily believe most people are with the mindset of trying to glorify their lifestyle (though that could be the case), or believe that they deserve special rights. Most of the world’s culture is very heterosexual, and I feel that gays are trying to get others to be aware of, perhaps enjoy, and eventually welcome or be tolerant of their lifestyle rather than try and suggest their type of love is special. All the homosexuals I’ve personally met just want to be able to do what they enjoy while having the same rights and general respect that a heterosexual enjoys.

      Then again I haven’t ever personally met a gay couple who tried to make me feel like they were special as in deserved something I didn’t, and you may have met more been around more of such kind of people which is why you feel the way you do.

  • 二奶头发

    With a more male population than female it’s not a surprise that homosexuality is happening.

    • MrC

      This is true, its very difficult for Chinese men to find girlfriend and also the girls are very bitch like and play the men, The girls are spoiled for choice so like the money and looks.

      i think they sick of this so they now are arse bandits.

    • Rei Yu Tian

      Are you serious? You don’t get to choose if you are homosexual or heterosexual, it’s all in the genetics. You don’t become gay just because there are less women and more men.

      • MrC

        in China is true.Many reasons.

        I asked a girl why she lesbian, she said because Im fat and the men dont like her.Its a thang here.

        • Cauffiel

          Haha… fat rights now! Fat rights now! Fat rights now!

          • Probotector

            Peter Griffin’s going to start the National Association for the Advancement of Fat People.

          • Cauffiel

            You know that’s a parody for a real thing, right?!? :-D

            http://www.naafaonline.com/dev2/

          • Probotector

            No I didn’t know that. but it’s bizarre that an organisation like that exists, or rather, needs to exist..

        • TJDubs

          Classic Chinese rationalization at its best.

      • 二奶头发

        It’s an internet forum.. do you take comments here seriously? LOL

      • Chris Granzow XI

        There’s been much debate as to if it is an environmental or a genetic phenomenon. Look at all those guys in jail that get turned out, and then sometimes end up liking the “affection” they receive from other men. Outside the prison they’re straight, but once their environment changed, so did they (at least some of them).

        • mr.wiener

          I was helping my uncle castrating the calves back on the farm once and I asked him why they had to lose their nuts. He replied:” Weeell, if we don’t clip their nuts orf the little bastards will all be fighting and f*cking each other in about 6 months time”.
          “What, they screw each other for real?”
          “Yep, starts to look like the Sydney gay Mardi Gra after a while.”
          “What about if you put them back in with the cows? Will they go back to screwing them?”
          “Yep……[pause] except for one or two of them”.

          • maybeabanana

            Marveling at the reproductive system of mammals ?

        • Rei Yu Tian

          Environment plays a huge part I suppose. Haha, reminds me of the booty warrior.

          Still, I don’t think it will be ever possible for me to like men booty.

          • Chris Granzow XI

            lmfao….just googled “booty warrior”….funniest thing I heard all day.

        • KAMIKAZIPILOT

          Yeah that is pretty interesting. I’d say both play a role, but I’m not sure which plays a larger role. I never did get those guys in prison who actually ended up turning voluntarily. I mean I can understand if force is used but there are also guys who seem to just turn gay because of the environment. Maybe it’s a defense mechanism. Who really knows. But there’s got to be something genetic too because not everyone will turn gay when placed in an all male environment.

        • SigridEkman

          Well I think there is a distinction between sexual urges and love. I’m sure some people could enjoy sexual interaction with someone of the same sex without them ever actually falling in love with someone of the same sex, which would explain why you may observe increased frequency of gay-sex in closed populations (eg prisons) whith a a concentration of only one gender in it.

          Sex and love are over-lapping but not the same thing. I wouldn’t call someone who enjoys gay-sex necessarily gay. In Norway the word for homosexual is actually homophile (“love of the same”), I think this terminology is more accurate.

          • Chris Granzow XI

            I’m not sure how it’s viewed in Norway; but, at least here in America I know there isn’t a very fine line distinguishing gay sexual impulses from love for the same gender…….we all just look at it as being really gay.

    • Cauffiel

      I think “homosexuality is happening” is the funniest phrase I’ve ever read on cS.

      • 二奶头发

        everybody finds humour in different ways. I’m glad to have put a smile on your face :-)

    • maybeabanana

      I called it a method of population control.

  • Marcus Muller

    I’m pleasantly surprised by the amount of homosexual support. At least there’s no dogmatic religions in China that says homosexuality is evil/abomination. Think that’s the biggest hurdle the world faces when the issue of homosexuality. Christianity/Islam two of the world’s biggest religions are both against homosexuality, and most, if not all issues with homosexuality stems from religion.

    • Strangerland

      I was surprised too until several years ago, I stumbled upon a news from Japan; a shinto priest actually officiated the wedding of two guys. It’s not official in “city hall paper” kind of official, but the priest agreed to help them seek blessing on their marriage from their God. Then I learned that in Buddhism, Shintoism, Taoism- basically there is no hate whatsoever overt gays. Even the shinto priest said so- that although the government wouldn’t recognize the union, he still wanted to help the couple to seek permission from God to be married with each other.
      Now I wonder which kind of marriage you’d like to have, a marriage which somekind of paper recognized as valid, or one where the “validity” is in the eyes of your God(s)?
      Love is love, and it’s much better than hatred right?

  • Claude

    OK, that’s it! Eattot or whatever her name may be has to go. She’s obviously a troll or just too stupid to be a productive member of this community, so cut her loose! I suspect she’s just a language bandit. We have all met them in Asia. They have no ambitions to expand their world views or grow as a person but to only advance their English skills for career purposes. They ambush us like mercenary’s and cling-on to us like a bad cold. It’ll takes days even weeks to get rid of this type of person. Do us all a favor and cut her loose she’s of no benefit to the site.


  • Wonderfull Lady Wonderful band.
    step back

  • Alice Pan

    Wow! This support is really lovely to see.

  • B*tches, Leave

    *sigh* it’s a mental disorder … of course I won’t tolerate hate towards these people (would you HATE/MAKE FUN OF a guy with tourette syndrome?), but I will never behave as if it’s NORMAL. Gay people are also people and should have the same rights, but I draw the line when two guys start making out in front of children … I’m Russian and our new law makes it clear now that, while you can be gay and enjoy your life, you can’t be gay in public anymore – which to me makes totally sense!

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      Well gays/bisexuals are what 5-10% or so of the population so I guess you can define them as abnormal but I agree they should have the same rights and be free from harassment. Well I wouldn’t want two gay people making out in front of children but then again I wouldn’t want two straight people making out in front of children either. No one needs to see anyone making out in public.

      • Cauffiel

        I PDA all the time. That’s how I roll, bitch.

        • KAMIKAZIPILOT

          You’re almost as bad as those with sagging pants showing their underwear. Now I really want to fart on your face.

          • Cauffiel

            Hey, man…. hate the gravity, not the droopy pants wearer.

    • dumbledore

      Yes, you Russians have a long and glorious history of tolerance and understanding. Nice double standards btw, “I’m OK with gays as long as they don’t kiss in front of children.” AKA “I’m offended so I should decide how you people live your lives!”

    • lin

      Then straight couples shouldn’t either. It’s making out…no matter what

  • crimsonarmor

    God created man, then he created woman for man because he knew he would be lonely. That’s how it should be but, obviously some men were not satisfied so they perverted what the teachings say. And then women started tasting each other. In some scriptures it is said that when men start sleeping with men and women start sleeping with women it’s a sign of the end of the world. So get ready for Judgement people.

  • maybeabanana

    I just dug this out. One of my cousin’s wedding in China. Similar style wedding photography, no?

  • The John

    http://pfox.org/default.html Done and Done….

  • canadianbacon

    I like being a bisexual Korean male but would never come out in real life. Besides, the forbidden part of it makes it all too exciting then it already is. Actually, I probably don’t have any strict views on what it all is, rather the lack of a strong view that your genitals determine who you fuck or get fucked by is ridiculous.

  • Not a Homo

    What if homosexuality is caused by chemicals like fluoride and mercury and chlorine in our drinking water and other chemicals found in plastic containers and disinfectants and detergents. Some people are gonna get cancer, just like some people are gonna become gay? Wake up people… Homosexuality being OK is another way the world elites are using to depopulate the planet. Then these same elites fill Hollywood with images of gay this and gay that and want everyone to accept that it’s OK and that you are just “born” this way. Sorry people, nature is not wrong. Humans are born with the instinct to PROCREATE. I agree you can’t choose to be gay just like you can’t choose have cancer. But to say that cancer cannot be cured or that we don’t know what causes cancer is complete nonsense.

    • Warlock

      It’s a possibility. Do you believe in the new world order? Ordo ab chao?

    • mr.wiener

      So all those ancient Greek, Roman and gays were doing lots of fluoride and mercury and modern carcinogenics were they?…..Hey maybe the Illuminati were transporting these chemicals back in time to make us think homosexuality is natural. Not a homo and not one for logic apparently either.
      I bet you look FAABULOUS in one of those tin foil hats.

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