Man Who Slammed Toddler Into The Ground Begs for Death Penalty

Han Lei.

From QQ:

Beijing Suspect Who Threw Baby Girl on Ground Killing Her Tearfully Begs for “Death Penalty”, Says Everyday He’s in Pain

The Beijing News (reported by Zhang Yuan) — August 20, in the Daxing baby girl slammed to death case, Han Lei is being prosecuted for intentional homicide, and driver Li Ming is being prosecuted for harboring a criminal.

Recently, while being interrogated by the prosecution, Han Lei expressed that ever since the incident, “it has been particularly painful these past 20-some days, I really don’t want to live anymore”.

At present, the Beijing First Intermediate People’s Court is filing and examining the case.

Han Lei.

Han Lei being interrogated by the police while under custody.

Claims only when he was arrested did he know he had committed murder

Yesterday, as shown in a Beijing TV Station video clip, while being interrogated by the prosecutor, Han Hei bitterly claimed in tears he “would never go kill a child”.

According to Han Lei, on the night of July 23, he, Li Ming, and several other friends had gone to Daxing Jiugong to eat and drink. Afterwards, they agreed to go singing [KTV]. He was the last one to come down the stairs of the restaurant, and saw that only Li Ming’s car was still parked downstairs. So he got into the car and sat at the front passenger seat. By the time the two of them had reached the KTV, the parking spots were already full, so they prepared to park the car on the side of the road by the bus stop across the street.

According to Li Ming, “as soon as I saw there was a stroller in the parking spot, I thought to myself that I mustn’t hit it”, but just as he was thinking about how to park his car, Han Lei was already arguing with the woman next to the stroller about parking. At first, he “didn’t see any sign of anger or anything”, but a moment later, “when I looked again, they had already came to blows”.

In was during these few short minutes that the baby girl in the stroller was lifted high above Han Lei’s head and was slammed onto the ground.

According to Han Lei, after he fled the scene in Li Ming’s car, “I kept thinking about how much strength I had used, and just whether the child was in danger [of death]. I kept thinking about these things”. When the police found him and took him away, “while in the police car, the walkie-talkie sounded, and it said ‘we’ve got him’. The mood was like what I saw in movies, very serious”. Only then did he know that he had committed murder.

“Even now I can’t explain what happened, nor do I want to explain anything. I would never [intentionally] kill a child.” Facing the prosecution, Hai Lei tearfully lamented: ”To have caused such a tragedy to a child, and though it was a spur-of-moment thing, a combination of many different reasons, you must sentence me to death, I really don’t want to live. Over the past 20-some days, I’ve been especially pained, and I truly don’t want to live anymore.”

Han Lei is crying with hands on his face.

Han Lei covers his face sobbing.

Lawyers are already involved in this case

Prosecutors in the case believe Han Lei, as an adult, should have clearly known the consequences of lifting a baby girl over his head and slamming her onto the road, and should be criminally charged with intentional homicide. That Li Ming had witnessed what Han Lei did and still drive away helping him flee the scene, he should criminally charged with harboring a criminal.

According to the prosecution, Han Lei has previously been sentenced with a punishment requiring limited term imprisonment or above for committing an intentional crime, and after serving that punishment, his punishment for committing an intentional crime within five years ought to be sentenced with a punishment requiring limited term imprisonment, similar to being punished more heavily for repeat offenses. Li Ming committed a new crime while still on parole, and thus his parole should be revoked and punished for multiple offenses.

As it is understood, Han Lei and Li Ming both have lawyers for their defense in this case.

[…]

Brief Introduction

Han Lei

●Born on 1974, June 26.

●In 1998, sentenced to administrative detention for 13 days for stealing.

●In 1992, sentenced to administrative detention for 10 days for striking another person.

●In 1996, sentenced to life imprisonment for crime of theft. While in prison, sentenced to an additional 1 year in prison for breaking supervision order, sentence later reduced.

●During the second half of 2012, released upon completion of sentence.

[…]

Comments from QQ:

腾讯网友 我勒个去!:

What is there [for the lawyers] to defend? Just execute him by firing squad already! As for his accomplice, he should be severely punished for helping the murderer flee the scene after witnessing the whole crime!

腾讯重庆市网友 晚雨:

Sentenced to life imprisonment in 1996, released in 2012, and slams a baby to death in 2013. [So] Life imprisonment means 16 years of limited term imprisonment, while the penalty for corrupt officials is even more astonishing—death sentence with reprieve means 10 years of limited term imprisonment, with some even on medical parole in less than 10 years, letting “the horse that brings trouble to its herd” [a rotten apple] continue tyrannizing and harming society. Is it time for China’s laws to be amended?

腾讯网友 傲雪:

How many years served before someone is let out of prison is not important; what’s important is letting the bad guys in and the good guys out. When will there be any joint liability, rather than locking up more and more bad guys only to have them come out worse? Isn’t that an embarrassment for the prisons? Isn’t that a dereliction of duty [that prisoners are not rehabilitated from committing crime]?

腾讯北京市网友 笑看风雨:

Crying?
It is baby you slammed to death who is crying.
Even after 100 deaths you wouldn’t have atoned for your crime.
Could an extremely evil person like you have tears?
Even if you do, they would still be crocodile tears!!!

腾讯金华市网友 我心依旧:

Don’t be fooled by this trash’s sobbing! Each passing minute will be more dangerous with him alive in this world! Being as cruel as this, how can he have any repentance? He must be executed by shooting! The penalty on him can never be lenient! If the judge gives him a lenient sentence, he will meet with bad karma! This kind of trash should be executed right away!

Comments from NetEase:

网易安徽省手机网友 ip:36.32.*.*:

In the future, the court should stop handing out life sentences; it’s all fake [bullshit]. Learn from foreign countries, where even 50 years in prison is better than your life imprisonment, where someone can be released after just 16 years, and then continue to harm society.

网易浙江省嘉兴市手机网友 ip:183.140.*.*: (responding to above)

And death sentences with reprieve [aka deferred or commuted death sentence] are also all fake.

网易内蒙古呼和浩特市手机网友 ip:116.114.*.*:

And the police officer in Henan should also have known that lifting a child above his head [and throwing to the ground] would kill, so he should also be charged with the crime of intentional homicide.

亚之梦的眼泪 [网易北京市手机网友]:

Oblige him! A person like him doesn’t worth the slightest bit of sympathy!

网易湖北省手机网友 ip:119.103.*.*:

He indeed deserves to die.

Comments from Sohu:

蓝羽纤儿5174296 [搜狐北京市网友]:

He was previously sentenced to life imprisonment, so how was he released after just 16 years? Whoever released him ahead of time should be held responsible.

心旷神怡5169684 [搜狐辽宁省沈阳市网友]:

That this kind of human scum was released for having served his sentence after just 6 years after being sentenced to life imprisonment and even getting an additional year, he and his little buddies were all stupefied! If it’s said that the prison released him for normal reasons, people nationwide would laugh! If this human scum wasn’t released early, if there weren’t some people who aid and abet the evil in releasing him, the child would still be living in this world!

穷愚叟376309 [搜狐天津市网友]:

Death penalty, without negotiation! Quickly sentence him, and quickly carry it out. What use is there in keeping around a devil who’s worse than a beast?
And the black hand that repeatedly reduced/shortened this devil’s imprisonment should also be thoroughly investigated! Give the public an explanation.

忠贞不渝52354347 [搜狐河南省焦作市网友]:

“Han Lei, born on 1974, June 26.
In 1998, sentenced to administrative detention for 13 days for stealing.
In 1992, sentenced to administrative detention for 10 days for striking another person.
In 1996, sentenced to life imprisonment for crime of theft. While in prison, sentenced to an additional 1 year in prison for breaking supervision order, sentence later reduced.
During the second half of 2012, released upon completion of the sentence.”
Does anyone have any questions? A person sentenced to life imprisonment, only stayed in prison for 6 years, and was released to continue harming society. Ridiculous! Shameful! Sad! From this we can see how absurd China’s judicial system has become!

熊猪笨笨 [搜狐重庆市网友]:

When an innocent life is slain, justice for the deceased must be sought.
Are you a Japanese devil, who doesn’t even respect life?
No matter what your race is, you must offer your life [in compensation, life for a life].
This kind of human scum must be severely punished. Since ancient times, murderers are not to be forgiven and have forfeited their lives.

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  • Kiwi

    What was he thinking at the time?

    “I’m going to let a little steam out” *throws baby on the ground*

    • Irvin

      He wasn’t thinking, that was the point.

      • Ami

        Why are you so keen on defending a baby’s murderer? Even at my most emotional and angriest times I’d never smash a defenseless child on the ground. In fact: most people, including criminals, wouldn’t.
        Its not about thinking, what he did was past barbaric and intentionally sadistic. “Whats the worse thing I can do to this woman?”- “oh look she has a child…”

        • David S.

          This is not defending the man, it’s simply trying to have a cold unbiased look at the facts.
          That guy is showing what appears to be true remorse and symptoms of deep depression. To me, this suggests he was indeed not thinking at the time and not quite himself.

          It’s easy (and erroneous) to dismiss these horrible crimes as the acts of beasts or monsters who revel in the suffering they inflict on others.
          It’s easier than to admit that there is a bit of that madness in every one of us and that we are not all that different from these monsters, as illustrated by the calls for torture and painful death we can see in the comments.

          • Ami

            If you regularly think about greviously harming others regularly, especially toddlers, you’re not normal. Thats not a normal reaction, especially not one for a grown adult. Regret doesn’t bring back a murdered child’s life. There’s playing the devil’s advocate and just being dumb and you’re just being reallllly dumb.

          • David S.

            I am not saying it’s a normal reaction or that his regrets could make what he did any less horrible. I am just saying that to call him a monster and denying his humanity is an easy way out of trying to understand.

            Sometimes people snap and commit horrible deeds. Most of us need a big push to get there but for a few others, the littlest thing at the wrong time can do the trick. Madness and sanity are not in black and white, but in a very large number of greys and the lucky ones never find out which colour they’re in.

            Sure he’s dangerous and he must be put away. But he’s not a monster and from the look of it, he was not in his right mind when he killed that child. It’s at least a possibility which many people here do not seem to envision.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            Agree for the most part. I think he just snapped, he can’t control his temper, although he does have a criminal past so it shows he wasn’t exactly an outstanding citizen before this incident. Although there are people who wouldn’t care in the least about killing a baby, those are few and far between. Of course I can’t be sure, but I do think he has genuine remorse, and wished this never happened. Then again a lot of people who have committed vicious crimes feel remorse.

            That said, I still think he deserves the death penalty, or life in prison. You do the crime you do the time. I also feel drunken drivers who kill someone should get the death penalty too but we all know that will never happen.

        • Irvin

          Don’t be so egocentric, not everything is about you. I’m guessing even at your most hungry state you never eaten shit, but dogs do it everyday.

          We are all unique and different even with in the same specie, just because the child killer is different from you doesn’t mean he deserve to be torture.

          • vincent

            You think that explanation of yours would fly with the parents of this child? I mean seriously Irvin I am curious, if it was your kid would you look at this with pure logic and have the exact same views you spout now?

          • Irvin

            what flys with who doesn’t make actions justifiable. For example: sticking a Hugh dildo up your ass would fly with me, but obviously it wouldn’t fly with you (or maybe it does, I don’t know).

            Just because the mother wanna burn him alive doesn’t mean that’s the correct action to take. It’s no different from him killing the kid. Two wrongs don’t make a right, but maybe it does for you.

          • vincent

            Ah making asinine insults, is that your last resort? Pitiful, you certainly are an idealist, but a total moron at the same time, you would be the first in line to mete out punishment to this fellow if it was someone you loved that was taken away.
            He may not need to face the death sentence which is an assumption that you made thinking that was my point of view, but he does belong in jail for the rest of his life, and try actually answering a question instead of deflecting it.

          • mr.wiener

            Did you get my E-mail?

          • vincent

            Err no Mr. Weiner no email as of yet

          • mr.wiener

            Contact Kate ASAP.

          • vincent

            Mr. Weiner I can only contact her through facebook which I have already done, and the only other way is leaving her a comment here, is something the matter? I’m not sure which email you used but it I can be reached at vincentindubai84@gmail.com don’t really know why I didn’t get your other email but would appreciate it if you could forward it to that address, thanks

    • The Enlightened One

      Yeah, it says they were drinking and eating with buddies.

      I don’t know if you have had the fortune to see Chinese guys buddy up and do the drinking, shouting and drinking games thing but they get pretty emotional and arrogant.

      If he was running around just after one of these events, he is probably thinking he is the emperor of the world and anyone that defies him must face his wrath. Extreme anger or happiness are usually the two emotions, from my experience when a local gets drunk here in China.

      This one local cop here was gloating to everyone he was drinking with buddies and some guys he didn’t know. They got into one of those drinking games and some poor dude was killed because he argued with the cop. They dumped him in a nearby salt lake and nothing ever happened to the cop. Now he struts around with an even bigger god complex because he got away with it.

      I think this guy was similar and had one of those moods going on and I bet you he wouldn’t give two shits had he gotten away with it too. It is only because he was caught. On some days, I swear a bunch of bad things converge and push bad or even good people to do horrible things.

      • http://www.chinasmack.com/ MrT

        yea you’re right, this is real Chinese “Culture” .
        Most my friends in China are female, not for the obvious reason but because I can not stand being around drinking Chinese men.
        They always harassing me to be their best friends, be their drinking buddie , help them get girls.(laowai friend status)

        they are fouled mouthed disgusting animals and show no respect to women. I have 99% ban now with getting involved with Chinese men, very few make it on my real friends list.
        The plus side is many girls hate this type of people so look for the alternative life style. Me.

        • biggj

          hahaha ‘Mr T. I’m the alternative lifestyle for chinese woman” You put that on a T-shirt in chinese for all the girls to see.lol

    • Ryo

      “several other friends had gone to Daxing Jiugong to eat and drink”

      He was probably already hammered from the drinking.

  • donscarletti

    We westerners, full of over-arching aspirations, set ourselves up to a life of bitter disappointment and ennui when we become neither president nor an astronaut. We can learn much from talking to the Chinese working class about their aspirations, which tend to revolve around eating lamb skewers (串) and drinking domestic beer, the kind of aspiration that can be fulfilled time and time again.

    It’s great when people make the simple kind of wish that is granted so easily to so many people like him. It’s heart-warming when a guy who is going to be shot in the back of the head tells the world that he wants nothing but to be shot in the back of the head. Well Comrade Han, do we have a surprise for you, because you’re going to be shot in the back of the head! The billing thing is a myth, the bullet will be provided by the state, to each according to his need! When you wish upon five yellow stars, your dreams really do come true!

    Also, LOL to the guy who thinks 1996-2012 = 6 years. 16 years is no life sentence, but it’s still a fair chunk of one.

  • Joey

    A death sentence would be an easy escape. What happened to the good old hard labour camps? I’m sure there’s mountains to be moved somewhere.

    • Irvin

      A more cruel sentence would be to wait until he don’t wanna die anymore then sentence him to death.

      • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

        There shouldn’t be a ‘cruel’ sentence, just one that efficiently uses him as a resource before he expires. Why not spend what little is left of his miserable life contributing to the country he pissed off? Won’t earn him any retribution but at least that way he balances off all the air and food wasted on him.

        • Monkeekong

          harvest his organs to save another child’s life

          • death_by_ivory

            This is the most reasonable idea I read today.I highly doubt he can donate his adult organs to any child.Of course you cannot let him live but giving him a fast death penalty is fulfilling his wish.Catch 22.

          • biggj

            They already do that in chinese prisons.

      • Germandude

        Or just give him a life sentence in a room full of Justin Biber posters and loudspeakers blowing out that heck of a music.

        • Mighty曹

          He must also wear a “I love Justin” t-shirt.

          • biggj

            And when he goes out in the yard he has to wear this.He’ll get beat for sure.

          • Mighty曹

            Or, “My boyfriend is a laowai”.

          • dconn

            in a prison yard of all men haha

          • Mighty曹

            To appease human rights groups the prison guards should give him a jar of Vaseline.

        • I love Sexy Chinese girls

          Just like this?

      • the ace of books

        That would be cruel, yes. But why waste a person if they can, in some small or partial way, pay for their crime? Justice is not just killing people – justice is making things even, and death is just death.

    • I love Sexy Chinese girls

      Death by a thousand cuts would be good.

  • mwanafa

    Is there any difference between killing a toddler and and adult?

    • Irvin

      To me there’re no different, but like pets people just found crimes more severe if the victim is more cuddlely.

      It’s a classic case of double standard that everyone is ok with.

      • Ming

        i think there is a different, there could always be a chance that an adult has wronged you, so a killing could be understandable, or maybe even justified. however you can never justify killing a child because its always innocent

        • Irvin

          Not always, there’s been more that one occasion where a child from the subway, bus, train and plane that got so annoying that made me want to kill them.

          • vincent

            Errr ok, someone get the straitjacket, so to sum it all up you would kill kids if it was legal because they annoy you right? You are definitely the last person who should be commenting on this case because you actually empathize with this child killer.

          • Irvin

            As opposed to who? someone who yell “kill! torture! burn! stone!”?

      • vincent

        @mwanafa:disqus @disqus_WPlSmnsbvw:disqus Are you both forgetting that adults are capable of defending themselves while children aren’t? Even most mammals take care of their young for crying out loud, double standards? I don’t even know what to say to you both.

        • Kate

          This is exactly what I was thinking. An infant/toddler has no way to defend themselves, they’re completely trusting. They’re helpless. The worth of a life is a life, a baby is no different then an adult in that sense but the punishment for killing a completely helpless being should be more strict.

          • vincent

            Yes Kate exactly, but I guess regarding regarding this situation that if you ask a stupid question you get a stupid answer as mwanafa and Irvin have so excellently depicted.

          • mwanafa

            I beg to differ, first of all it’s not a stupid question. Unless you say it’s relatively stupid, may be I will agree.The reason why I posted this question is that
            I wanted to know other peoples’ opinion regarding killing a toddler and an adult.The answer should be general not just referring to this case.
            One thing I want to ask you Mr. Vinsten, will you consider ” a heavily armed adult killing another adult who had no weapons” case, same as killing a toddler? Because I think an adult also can’t defend himself against a heavily armed man.
            The only reason you have given here is that, because toddlers have no capabilities to defend themselves, Right?
            To me killing is killing, that’s why even if you happen to kill someone who was pointing a gun at you raping your wife, you will have to do much(And hire a very good lawyer) to prove that it was self defense, otherwise you will rot in jail.

          • vincent

            Ok let me entertain your comment, as an adult you possess the mental faculties to flee this gives you a choice as to whether you want to engage in a conflict or not, toddlers are not so lucky as they don’t completely fathom the concept or consequences of dangerous situations.
            Even if say the ‘man’ was heavily armed there is always a greater chance of survival for an adult as compared to a child, how often do you hear of cases where unarmed adults are attacked but they do manage to survive, do you believe if toddlers were put in the same situation the outcome would be the same?
            Also it takes a human with absolutely no humanity to take the life of a child so your question requires greater reflection on your part, if you don’t have children I can understand why you wouldn’t be able to discern the differences but should you already be a parent this is not a question you should be asking.

          • mwanafa

            Let me keep this very simple, from your comment it seems like you put only 1% effort to read and understand my comments, or if you read/understood at all.
            Assume there are two suspects, Mr. Dim and Mr. Sum.
            Mr. Dim killed a 2 yrs old kid, Mr. Sum killed an adult, lets say 30 yrs old man. Are they gonna be treated the same under the law? And what are your views, should they be treated the same or differently?
            Just don’t go out of topic, will ya?
            For example:whether I have children or not is totally out of topic, have you not read on the news about parents sell, kill, rape etc. their own children? I have seen a lot.

          • vincent

            Well take 1% effort to frame the question better next time, the way you asked its left up to the readers interpretation. You framed it a lot better this time around, see that wasn’t so hard right? In my opinion cases that involve children are usually dealt harsher sentences, they won’t be treated the same under the law because society sees children the same way most of us do, as not being able to defend themselves.
            I interpreted your question in my own way whether it was the right or wrong interpretation depends on how well you frame a question.

          • mwanafa

            Oh I see, I didn’t put myself on the readers’ side. Thanks for the reminder.

          • vincent

            You’re very welcome, you sound a lot more reasonable than Irvin, lol

          • The Enlightened One

            Too true, it’s a baby.

            If we argue this with logic, many successful and intelligent people would argue that “time” is one of the most valuable things we posses. It is the one thing we can’t bargain with and buy. That being said, when a baby or a child dies… not only can it not defend itself (as mentioned above).. but it is depressingly robbed of time and valuable experiences. So I can see how a baby’s life would be more valuable than an adults.

            It was robbed of its time to live.

          • vincent_t

            I don’t think the “defending” is the main point here. Look, whether the baby could defends him/herself or not (of coz not), they should be protected because the baby doesn’t make any decision, either to be at that place, or to annoy any party, or to block the car, or anything at all. They are just baby.

        • Irvin

          A life is a life, weather is a child’s life or a psychopath. A child can cry and scream and annoy the hell outta you that makes you want to kill them and a psychopath may kill you and makes you want to kill him first.

          But they are both just doing what nature made them to do, guilty and innocent is a human perception. There are no guilty or innocent in nature we all got a right to live and make excuses to kill.

          By your rationale a rabbit should be innocent since it’s incapable of harming another and the lion is guilty since harming other is its life. So does that give the lion any less reason to live?

          But don’t worry, we kill them both anyway.

          • vincent

            The first paragraph is total babble could you please make some sense?
            Who the hell feels like killing a child because they scream and annoy people, a lot of kids do that, man you have some issues if you think that is a reasonable reaction to a naughty child.
            Such a simple scenario, lets say by your logic you wouldn’t mind being murdered, raped , etc because they are doing what ‘nature made them do’. Would you advocate that they be released out of prisons into the general population? Would you feel safe? Seriously Irvin make some damn sense or put your money where your mouth is and spend a week with them in prison.

          • Irvin

            so you kill people that you don’t wanna live with?

          • vincent

            Err deflecting the question, while asking a more ludicrous question…

      • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

        Not quite. Adults have a chance, however slim of defending themselves. Toddlers do not. They do not even possess basic motor skills, let alone comprehension of the world around them outside base emotions. To attack something not even capable of defense is seen as cowardice and is punished more severely for it.

        • the ace of books

          Interesting to come at it from the defensive angle. The reason I don’t know if I’d agree is that so many crimes against adults are against adults that haven’t neither the training nor the mindset nor the chance to defend themselves. I do agree that children for the most part don’t have the degree of agency that adults do, but so many adults don’t have that choice of defend-or-don’t, or if they do, it couldn’t even be called defense.

          • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

            Irregardless, an adult is expected to posses some rationale of actions and consequences. Children do not. To know that somewhere buried deep in their psyche, an adult has a voice telling them to calm down, show restraint, and still ignores it to give into their base emotions: rage, lust, hunger, emotions that put humans on the same level as feral animals. And if those adults decide to act like animals, they’ll be caged like animals.

          • the ace of books

            This is true, but this is turning around again to the perpetrator’s standpoint. And that’s a whole nother bag of bones – why people do, don’t do, encourage themselves to, or stop themselves from doing such. I don’t think anyone could argue that a child of normal development would have a fully-developed system of beliefs and understandings, not to mention experiences, that would allow them to do such things with full knowledge.

            (Let’s note I’m not arguing children aren’t violent or cruel. more that they don’t have a long duration of or rich variety of experience telling them why or why not to be violent or cruel.)

        • Irvin

          So it’s about honor now? so it’s ok for weak person to murder a seemingly stronger person?

          • biggj

            Yes. hahaha If a toddler can kills a grown man….no punishment for the child.

          • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

            It’s like you do mental gymnastics, and twist my words into something else. No, what I said was that someone who is older has the ability to 1) fight back if they are the one being attacked; and 2)Have developed enough to ‘defend’ in a different way by not resorting to physical violence.

            An adult MAKES the decision to lash out at someone. If they thought that was a suitable solution, or lack the restraint to keep themselves from doing it at any age older than 10, they need to be removed from society until they can learn to better themselves or until they die, whichever comes first.

            It has nothing to do with ‘cuddly’-ness or ‘honor’.

          • Irvin

            It still sounds the same, “ability to fight back”, “have developed enough to defend”.

            It’s like you talking about MMA or something, those who can fight it’s ok to die.

      • Atlas

        Ya man, next thing you know people will start feeding kids instead of telling those damn lazy assholes to work a shift like everyone else!

    • matt

      yes, the younger the victim the better the ratings

    • Ami

      An adult getting murdered is tragic BUT adults may have a chance to:
      A. defend or attempt to defend themselves
      B. Not put themselves in dangerous situations
      I mean, there are a lot of other factors and any murder is a tragedy but:
      Babies never have any of these chances, they’re physically and mentally defenseless.

      • moldavidian

        I agree… i doubt a toddler would be going for a stroll so late at night outside a KTV joint. Ban KTV or would China become unglued?

    • the ace of books

      Yes, there is. Let me esplain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up:

      Infant/Toddler/Child: what’s killed is potential – the life the child may have been or had. The child no longer has the chance to become anything. No matter the child was old enough to have dreams or not – if those dreams get cut off at 2 months or 2 years or 12, then it’s “s/he never had a chance to!” Plus, relatives often have more affection and protective instinct for a child than an adult (due to biology etc).

      Adult: what’s killed is connections and established love, affection, and chances. The adult was on their course in life, doing and being whatever they had in front of them, and while it’s partially potential that’s being cut off, here, it’s also an established life, loves and hates and boredoms and day-to-day stuff and amazing stuff that the person had inside of them.

      Both are bad. But they’re bad in different ways, for different reasons.

  • slob

    This dickhead just killed a 2 year old child and is asking for an easy way out of life, in other words he doesn’t want to be constantly harrassed and beaten by other prisoners and opts to be put out of his misery instead. Why does this fucking cunt get a choice on when his life ends? What about the 2 year old who DIDN’T have a choice? Where’s the god-damned justice? This fucking prick has lived a long enough life already and enjoyed the pleasures and comforts that life has to offer. That 2 year old on the other hand will never see any of it and she didn’t have a choice. The parents will also never share that joy with her either.
    Fair sentence? Let the parents of the child decide what happens to him. Put him through so much excruciating pain and torture and feed him IV drips to keep him alive. Skin him slowly and put mirrors in front of him so he can watch with his eyelids stapled to his forehead. Burn his flesh with acid. Subject him to 24/7 mental torture including water dripping and water boarding. Make this piece of shit truly pay for his crimes and set a good example for all these other fucking cowards who think it’s OK to attack toddlers, slam babies on the ground – including the other examples we have recently seen. Make these fucking assholes pay for what they have done and give true justice. If they give this pathetic piece of shit his final wish and end his life with just a bullet to the head, then the justice system is truly a fucking joke.

    • Irvin

      You’re muslim aren’t you? So much hate and talks of torture.

      • Ami

        We’re talking about a guy who murdered a baby because of a parking dispute, I think its justifiable.

        • Irvin

          Do elaborate with details why is it exactly justifiable?

      • vincent_t

        No, he just said the ugly politically incorrect fact that hypocrite ppl like you doesn’t dare to say

      • Eurotrash

        Or Christian?

      • the ace of books

        Son, religion has nothing to do with hatefulness. Religion is a system of thought into which people can fit themselves. Hatefulness is up to the individual.

    • the ace of books

      What point is cruelty? Pain is not payment nor reparation – it’s just physical punishment, and punishment is not the same as justice.

  • Nationalist

    What the hell is it about most mainlanders that everything is “me”, “me”, “me”? *You’re* in pain? Fuck you! I say put the worm behind bars for the rest of his miserable, worthless life!

    • The Enlightened One

      LoL, I am kind of with you. He has learned nothing. If he wants to save his soul and relieve some pain, he should give his life to a cause to help children. Fuck, raise charity money to help orphans in China from prison with the time you have left! Don’t just whine and ask for death.

  • The Enlightened One

    “When an innocent life is slain, justice for the deceased must be sought.

    Are you a Japanese devil, who doesn’t even respect life?

    No matter what your race is, you must offer your life [in compensation, life for a life].”

    What’s with this comment? How does everything always get redirected to the Japanese or the Americans?

    It’s so retarded lol. I would honestly think people in my home country were mentally insane if when somebody did something similar in my country… some people would say “Are you like those crazy Chinese, killing people and slamming babies to the ground? Those Chinese are crazy!”, when it clearly has nothing to do with China or Chinese people.

    • Mike tyson

      The Chinese’s hatred toward the Japanese isn’t that crazy or farfetch or baseless. The sh*t the Japs did to the Chinese during WWII was intense heartless. Look up the the Nanjing Massacre. Most Chinese children are taught to hate the Japs by the older generation who were involved/witness WWII.

      • The Enlightened One

        Hey Mike, you still looking to fight the “Cheng guan”?

        He’s the toughest in China!

        http://www.echinacities.com/news/Michael-Tyson-Gets-Lesson-About-Chinas-Chengguan-on-Weibo

        • biggj

          Yeah I read that few days ago. Tyson would kill a chenggaun with one hit. haha Not even a punch…just a slap would do it.

        • http://www.chinasmack.com/ MrT

          Thats Mike the rapist tysoon.
          Real tough guy.

      • yawei Li

        obviously you dont know how the chicommunist tortured and killed other chinese ppl,

        • vincent_t

          sure, so since communist has killed many more chinese ppl, it start making sense and acceptable on what Jap has done.
          Well, can i slap you? Since your mum definitely has slapped you extremely hard that makes you retarded

          • yawei Li

            did I write something justifying Japanese atrocity? pot calling the kettle black disgusts me

          • vincent_t

            then what was the point in your previous comment? Bashing Jap atrocity by comparing it to the communist slaughtering onto its chinese people?

        • SonofSpermcube

          And the nationalists conscripted millions and starved millions more. The reason the communists won is that the alternative at the time had proven itself worse.

          • yawei Li

            everybody, i find a 5 mao, probably 6 mao since you can write English,

        • Mike tyson

          Does that even have a slight relevant to my original post?

      • David S.

        Are you really saying that the hatred of those Chinese whose life was only ever affected by Japan in terms of jobs, cars, video games and porn is not baseless?
        Being taught to hate by old farts does not constitute a sensible or reasonable basis for hating.

        • vincent_t

          Their life is only affected in terms of jobs,cars and porn? Like the WW2 never change the course of the nation at all? pffft..

          • Eurotrash

            Dude, can you stop whining about WW2. What was the ratio of Japanese versus the population of Chinese? How could the Chinese let themselves get their collective asses handed to them by such a pin prick of Japanese soldiers? If I were Chinese, I’d do a lot of soul searching rather than bitching about the Japanese.

          • yawei Li

            vast majority of chinese ppl i know have no concept of soul searching and introspection.

          • vincent_t

            Since when did i whine about WW2?
            Go read some history book instead of thinking war = whoever has the bigger number wins, kid.

          • Eurotrash

            I know history better than you. Period. “Kid.”

            You are whining again.

          • vincent_t

            LOL, like wat? do your soul searching to understand (aka make up) your own history? Obviously you know your made up history better than me, coz i don’t read retarded mind.

          • http://aileilei.tumblr.com/ El Puma R.

            yeah you tell’em man !

          • David S.

            Following the victory against Japan, China descended into a bloody civil war which resulted in the creation of the People’s Republic of China.
            I mean what kind of change are we talking about here? Do the Chinese hate Japan because the war resulted in the downfall of the KMT?

          • Kai

            Technically, China could be said to have been in the middle of a civil war when Japan invaded that merely continued after the Japanese were defeated.

            It’s human for the Chinese to resent what happened in history. If they are wrong for resenting. we’d all be wrong in some way.

            While it’s also human (oh so human) to harbor generalized hate, I’d say it’s wrong the moment you start blaming and punishing people today for what they had no reasonable control of, especially in history before they individually even existed.

            You could, however, reasonably resent them if they seem to be insensitive to the fact that there are still victims and beneficiaries of how history unfolded.

            It sucks that so many Chinese people still use “Japanese” as an epithet, some sort of catch-all bogeyman. It’s unfair. Still, as Mike Tyson pointed out, this phenomenon isn’t remotely that crazy, far-fetched, or baseless. That there is a reason for a phoenomenon it doesn’t necessarily make it “right”, but what’s wrong with acknowledging the reasons and refining what we’re objecting to?

          • http://aileilei.tumblr.com/ El Puma R.

            It’s human to resent but it’s inhuman to teach hate to little children the way Chinese do. Period.

          • Kai

            Well, if we want to be strict about it to justify the use of “Period.”, don’t other non-Chinese humans teach hate to little children the way the Chinese do? If so, then doesn’t that mean it is “human” and not “inhuman”?

            But no, I understand what you’re trying to say, such as arguments of prevalence or whatever. I just think you being so motivated to specify “Chinese” is also a little revealing and unfortunate. To me, there’s little difference between resenting the “Japanese” for something and resenting the “Chinese” for another thing. It’s still a sort of resentment that easily becomes a prejudice that henceforth influences the way we interact and perceive people of that group. I’m as guilty of it as everyone else, but I try to be conscious and aware of it as much as I can.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            Wow, Kai, good post, especially the part of being human. Remind me never to get into an argument with you. I have a feeling you’ll pick me apart line by line, word by word.

          • mr.wiener

            It’s been a fabulous week for arguing.

          • Kai

            Not sure if sarcasm but I know it could be interprete as a bit of quibbling on my part. That’s why I added “but no, I understand what you’re trying to say.”

            I was reading on Quora the other day some question about political correctness and there was an answer that I found really persuasive on the surface but not ultimately realistic. The answer was along the lines that political correctness (as commonly maligned) is something we could get past if we all responded not to what people say but what they intend to say.

            In this case, what El Puma R said on the surface could be interpreted in multiple negative ways that he didn’t intend. So I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt.

            However, the reason why that answer was persuasive but not realistic is because we can only truly know what someone intends if we were psychic or something. Everything else goes through a medium of communication. Context, body language, and shared history will help us better guess what the other person likely intended in their speech, but even then it can be hit or miss.

            Words are powerful things. Statements more so. We may think we’re communicating a simple point, but how we structure it or what details or adjectives we include, perhaps without thinking, ends up revealing possibly more about our thoughts and thinking process than we intended.

            For example, hell, I sure wish I could communicate better than I do, especailly with more people than just those who perhaps already think like I do. Certain people get me, others don’t. Why? How much is it something I can influence and how much do I need to count on them to meet me halfway? All hard to say.

            There is a pretty big diversity of people who read cS, even if there might be obvious majorities/minorities participating in the comments (commenters account for like less than 1% of cS’s readership). It’s a challenge to accurately communicate our exact intent and meaning to people who are different from us, and what we say or write still ultimately says something about us, even if it’s ultimately that we’re bad at communicating!

            Fortunately, it isn’t too hard to show sincerity and good faith effort. I think if people did that, most misunderstandings can be resolved. I dunno, it’s a complicated thing but something I’m fascinated by. Maybe I’m weird like that. Oh wells.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            I wasn’t being sarcastic at all, I’m not that witty. If I’m being sarcastic I think you’d know it. My whole post was straightforward. I agree for the most part about your thoughts on communicating with other people. People certainly communicate differently both online and in real life. IMO your posts do often seen pretty wordy, it’s like you’re using 1,000 words to communicate an idea that can be said in 500 words. I’m not saying it’s good or bad, I guess that’s just how you communicate. Anyways I usually understand you but you do make me think harder than other posters sometimes. One of the main reasons I go on CSmack is the diversity of posters. I’m not really a people person but I do enjoy talking to and exchanging ideas with people from all different backgrounds, all the while never having to take the effort to meet them in person. CSmack makes it easy to communicate with people from all over the world, even though it’s just online communication, it’s still real people talking to each other.

          • Kai

            Cool, I appreciate the compliment.

            Yeah, I’m verbose, something more than a few people have pointed out to me before, both kindly and not so kindly. I’ve introspected about it a lot and it probably stems from some deep-seated fear of being misinterpreted or otherwise misunderstood. So I write as much as I need to feel like I’ve hedged enough against misinterpretation. This results in some people thinking I’m repeating myself, but to me, I feel like every iteration is an added nuance further clarifying and specifying my meaning. I’m not sure what to do about this, especially because written text is often easier to misinterpret.

            I enjoy online communications as well. I’m one of those people who still marvel at how the internet as a technology has redefined human interaction, bringing people together with shared interests and exposing them to diversity that challenges and hopefully broadens their worldview. I’m an information junkie, always reading something, and the notion that many of you people are literally thousands of miles away and grew up with often drastically different backgrounds engendering very different values and priorities is still mind-blowing to me, even if it is sometimes results in disconcerting disagreements.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            When I communicate online (and in real life) I first have to realize who I’m talking to. The more sophisticated and well-read my audience is, the more complex my post can be, but if someone is posting 2 or 3 line posts without deep thought, I’ll do the same.

            Yeah, it’s pretty amazing to think how globalized the world has become. I think I’ve read that during medieval Europe most people spent their whole lives within a 50 mile radius. Compare that to now, it’s pretty amazing how things have changed.

          • Kai

            True, one should consider their audience and consider communicating in a way that may be more effective with that audience. The flip side of that is the risk of inadvertently being patronizing. Instead of talking to them as you would a peer, you might be underestimating them and dumbing yourself down.

            It’s also hard to be certain just how sophisticated or intelligent another person online is or can be given how little you usually have to go on. A person may not have deep thoughts on one subject but be incredibly profound in another.

            Of course, it’s hard not to develop certain impressions of people through your interactions, therefore coloring your future interactions with them. I struggle to remind myself to give certain people the benefit of the doubt in one thing when I’ve concluded they’re “disappointing” in another.

            Effective communication can be tough. It’s probably good enough if we all just tried our best, to communicate, to entertain the possibility of misunderstandings, to forgive them, and if we just act in good faith.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            In general, I judge each conversation independently rather than try to figure out the level of sophistication of the poster, especially if I haven’t talked to them a lot in the past. IF a certain conversation is superficial and light-hearted, I’ll go with that. I don’t worry too much about dumbing myself down. When you start worrying about stuff like that you’re overthinking IMO.

            Agree that we judge people, both online and in real life, based on our past experiences with them, it’s a natural reaction. So if you’ve had good experiences with someone in the past you tend to give them more leeway in future conversations versus someone you’ve never met before.

            One more thing Kai, I get the feeling you overthink things sometimes, but then again that’s better than not thinking enough, lol.

          • Kai

            Hah, dude, trust me, I get the feeling I sometimes overthink things as well! It’s very contextual for me. Because cS is a forum with a lot of people, I end up considering a lot more angles than I might in a more limited context like just hanging out with some friends. The nature of asynchronous communications is also conducive to thinking more, expressing more, and processing more of those thoughts. To me, there’s always an element of this place being an opportunity to learn or otherwise exercise my mind. It’s a personality thing that clashes with certain other types of personalities. Shrug.

          • http://aileilei.tumblr.com/ El Puma R.

            good for you. I’m not trying to bash anyone here, but China really shocked me when it comes to this matter. Over here in South America we don’t hate americans, just their government, but of course a lot of people take it the wrong way. Friends of mine are already teaching other parents not to teach hate or violence to their kids… it didn’t work for my generation. It ain’t the parents fault either, here and there, they were taught exactly the same way. Anyway I met some really xenophobic people when I was in China and I was lucky to make them see (with my average chinese skills) that not everything is the way we are told. It just worries me a whole lot the vain reasons people use to make their children pull the trigger for someone else. And it’s even more awkward having to explain a 45 year old why he/she shouldn’t teach a 3-year old resentment from another time in a different world that doesn’t exist anymore and the kid has absolutely nothing to do with it. it is not the kid’s fault neither his duty and I believe you fully agree with me on this. Children need choices not limits.

          • Kai

            Absolutely fully agree with you on this.

        • Mike tyson

          When did I ever said that being taught erroneous beliefs by old fault constitute as a reasonable basis for hate? I have simply explain the origin of the hate. Please read first before replying.

      • SonofSpermcube

        They are taught to hate before they are taught the reasons.

        • Kai

          Unfortuantely very true for a lot of them.

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      Not really retarded, but not really productive either. There comes a point where you have to focus on the future and not the past. You can remember the past, but don’t dwell on it. You’re not seeing this from a “victims” point of view, granted most of the Chinese weren’t even alive when the war was going on. Just like a white American can never fully understand why blacks are still sensitive about the past, unless you’re Chinese you can never fully understand why they still feel disgruntled towards past injustices. I’m not saying you’re right or wrong but you’re viewpoint is just different from a Chinese person, and always will be. That said, I personally feel this japan bashing is a result of a sense of inferiority and the government trying to deflect attention from the real issues plaguing the country.

      • narsfweasels

        “I personally feel this japan bashing is a result of a sense of
        inferiority and the government trying to deflect attention from the real
        issues plaguing the country.”

        See Amelia Hadfield on “The Other” in international relations. Authoritarian goverments always need someone to blame when things go wrong, and “the people who don’t look like us/talk funny” are the easiest target because they can’t really fight back.

        Japan’s crimes during WWII were terrible, but they have apologised and they have been a worthy neighbour to China since.

        • Atlas

          If anything, the Chinese government should send Japan flowers and money to Japan every year to thank them. Without Japan’s attack on China, I doubt the CCP would have been able to take over the country.

        • Kai

          I wouldn’t limit it to just “authoritarian” governments. It’s hard to imagine how any of us haven’t been guilty of it at some point in our lives. Specifying a type of government for that dishonor seems to be disingenuous dissassociation, kinda like specifying Japanese people as having no respect for life.

          • narsfweasels

            My apologies, I should have added the qualifier “authoritarian and weak governments (governments lacking the strong support of a measurable popular mandate, i.e those governments who maintain power by threat of force) will turn to the “other” in times when their legitimacy, capacity to rule or efficacy in achieving their stated outcomes are questioned.”

            But unfortunately that made my post longer. My fault, as I assumed my meaning was clear.

          • Kai

            I think I understood your meaning, but want to question it. It’s a seductive simplification, but how accurate is it really?

            Aren’t there many examples of governments we (you and I) wouldn’t consider to be “maintaining power by threat of force” turning to “the other” when their legitimacy, capacity, or efficacy in achieving their stated outcomes are questioned?

            I understand the phenomenon, of how it is used, and often why it is used. My contention is that it’s not limited to authoritarian or even “weak” governments (“weak” being something of an ex post facto descriptor).

            This is like a Chinese netizen saying “Japanese people have no respect for life”, and me saying, wait, just how different in this regard are Japanese people from people in general? Likewise, just how different are specifically authoritarian governments in their exploitation of “the Other” than other “forms” of government?

            If someone doesn’t sound right to you, don’t you often question it?

    • Kai

      Japanese devils are the Chinese equivalent for Nazis. They’re often invoked for similar reasons and in similar contexts. When they utter it, they know what they’re specifically referring to, but most of us can’t help but see it as another example of casual racism or unfair generalization that quickly gets really obnoxious.

    • 二奶头发

      For me I don’t like the use of 鬼 in chinese to describe a person of a different race. It’s discriminatory and well RACIST ..黑鬼 for a black person 日本鬼子 for a japanese person, 洋鬼子 for a white person. even cantonese’s 鬼佬 is discriminatory I think 。Just look at the translation of the word 鬼. It means devil and ghost. On webo I see SOME chinese people saying these words to describe 外国人。And SOME chinese use these words in such a way where it’s a natural part of their vocabulary (with no anger tones or emotion). Like “hey look at that white devil walking down the street”. Anytime I see a post with one of those words right away I think that person is just plain ignorant. If you tell a chinese person that these word are discriminatory they will say no they are not. But what they fail to realize is it’s the people who the words are directed at who would feel the words are discriminatory not the people who say the words.

  • The Enlightened One

    He is in pain… oh boo hoo…

    What about the family he destroyed? Or the life of an innocent child he ended? What about his own family, shocked and suffering… probably receiving verbal abuse because of his actions?

    Fuck him, live in pain. If he wants to do something about it then help other children somehow through charity work or working his ass off in hard labor to put some poor and abandoned children through school before he is executed.

    He was selfish when he wanted that parking spot and he is still selfish now. He hasn’t learned a damn thing!

    • http://www.richardfordphotography.com/ Richard Ford

      Donate his organs.

  • Claude

    Why the hell did they let him out after his first “life sentence”? Is China softer on criminals than I thought? Why is it one week they’re taking some guy into a field and putting a bullet in his head then I learn a life sentence is 16 years?

  • cmonson

    Why are some people so stupid? Death penalty obviously is NOT a punishment in this case. You should make him live, while doing some kind of menial labor for China, so that he has to face what he’s done until the day he dies. The death penalty in this case is actually a reward for him. When will people get it?

  • Dynasty

    Give the man what he wants.

  • biggj

    There is something all you white devils are forgetting….this happens in another country too….called “The West”. White devils and black monkeys do things like this way more than us glorious chinese do. The guy who did this was brain washed by western media to do what he did. Blame can’t be laid on this man. The west is at fault here 100%.

  • biggj

    Death is way to easy. Not only did he do that to a baby, he is a cop too. Prison will be hell for this guy. One way or the other he will die. By his own hand or someone in prison if he is not given the death sentence. So just let things play out in prison. If was given a life sentence in prison…I would beg for the death penalty too. I would just rather die.

    • mr.wiener

      Different case of baby slamming, in the one with the cop the baby lived.

      • biggj

        The one was a toddler right? Or a chinese 2 which is really one. So yeah I got them mixed up. 2 babies slamming incidents I assumed would not happen around the same time as each other…then I realized…China.

  • biggj

    I thought the guy that did this was named Guo Zengxi?

  • biggj

    Han Lei

    ●Born on 1974, June 26.

    ●In 1998, sentenced to administrative detention for 13 days for stealing.

    ●In 1992, sentenced to administrative detention for 10 days for striking another person.

    ●In 1996, sentenced to life
    imprisonment for crime of theft. While in prison, sentenced to an
    additional 1 year in prison for breaking supervision order, sentence
    later reduced.

    ●During the second half of 2012, released upon completion of sentence.

    ….And now he is a police officer??? How the fuck did that happen? Was it because of his awesome resume? Is this guy a cop???or is the cop that did the same a different guy?

    • vincent_t

      there were 2 different incidents. 1 involved a police and the other 1 is this. So this is how the fuck it happen, you just mixed them up. Told ya not to smoke that shit in the morning. Now go wash your face with some cold water!

      • biggj

        It’s not that. I always look the story up on a different source first. All i could find was the one about the cop. And it was about the same time. I can’t believe there were 2 separate incidents of babies be thrown to ground. Then I forgot about the 2 year old.

        • vincent_t

          no worry man, was just kd

  • YourSupremeCommander

    Why don’t we change chinasmack.com to biggj.com?

  • Mighty曹

    Punishment must fit the crime: He should be flung to the ground from the height and with the force similar to what the baby girl experienced.

    If he is lucky he will die. If not, he will live the rest of his life paralyzed or brain damaged.

    • Kai

      It wouldn’t be fair, falling to the ground from that height with a grown physique will likely result in less trauma than falling from that height with the physique of a 2 year old.

      Lift him higher?

      • Mighty曹

        True. That was put into consideration that’s why I suggested ‘force similar’ to what the baby faced.

        • Kai

          My bad, I didn’t read that sentence correctly the first time. You said the same thing I was thinking. Cheers.

          • Mighty曹

            I do hope that he’s truly sorry and remorseful. Cheers!

  • the ace of books

    The Ace’s Opinion: man, you guys, this could go so many ways:

    1) he’s lying. those are crocodile tears, and he knew what he was doing all along, and is betting on this playact to move people’s hearts to not have him put to death.
    Verdict: psycho.

    2) he’s telling the truth. He was DAF and, due to high spirits/getting carried away, wanted to get involved in the fight, did the only thing in the situation he could think of, ie, slamming babies.
    Verdict: fucked-up diaosi.

    3) he doesn’t know what the truth is. He was either so fucked up with drink or just plain has serious problems, and doesn’t understand his own motivation. Spur of the moment.
    Verdict: fucked-up diaosi.

    4) he’s genuinely remorseful. Hell, it might happen.
    Verdict: fucked-up but learned from it (probably still fucked-up, though).

    5) he genuinely wants to die. For whatever reason – remorse, regret, horror, embarrassment, face, lack of future, public eye, etc.
    Verdict: suicidal b/c previous actions.

    6) he’s genuinely wanted to die for a long time. Did it to get a sentence. Some people really are that screwed up.
    Verdict: suicidal psycho diaosi.

    As you can see, there really is no possible way of knowing exactly what’s in this guy’s head. There’ll be people arguing in all directions. My take? If he’s kept alive (and I honestly don’t know if he should be), he should spend the rest of his life paying for this, and whether that be financially directly to the mother, or indirectly to some childrens’ fund. Because this is so egregious an offence, and there had to be some amoutn of malice (even if only momentary) involved, and because no amount of work could make up for it – but he shouldn’t get away with doing nothing about it.

  • biggj

    BREAKING NEWS!!! At the trial of Han Lei just before the judge was going to tell him what his sentence would be,the 3 officials busted in. They told the judge there was wasn’t any need for that, that they would handle this. They led Han out the back door and into the parking lot where they shot him in each knee cap. The .50 cal pretty much blew his legs off from the knee down. After the officials had a cigarette, they finished him execution style. After they got Han’s families address from his lawyer so they could send a bill for the 3 bullets they used. The 3 officials bringing their own form of justice…. to 1 criminal at a time.

    • Mighty曹

      Good officials.

    • aasdf

      IDK why you’d want them to send the bill to his family. They did nothing wrong and aren’t at fault for their son’s actions. You’re just being unnecessarily cruel.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nicola.collina Nicola Collina

    Han Lei

    ●Born on 1974, June 26.

    ●In 1998, sentenced to administrative detention for 13 days for stealing.

    ●In 1992, sentenced to administrative detention for 10 days for striking another person.

    ●In 1996, sentenced to life
    imprisonment for crime of theft. While in prison, sentenced to an
    additional 1 year in prison for breaking supervision order, sentence
    later reduced.

    ●During the second half of 2012, released upon completion of sentence.

    wow. seems one Italy story. And between average italy people china si famous for its strong and no merciful justice…

    • Alphy

      It’s not shocking, tons of “death” sentences results in 10 yrs sentences here, especially when it involves people of power. In China, its not the problem of the law, it is in the selective execution.

      • http://www.facebook.com/nicola.collina Nicola Collina

        i agree.. anyway i was comparing because in italy is not rare have people with 30 years sentences, out after 15…and is not because power or connection, but because italian law, as other north european country, believe in the possiiblity to re-insert anyone in the society. But beside other countries in italy we are not able to give anyone a good education or teach something during the detention. So when people go out, the start do the same again (most of the time)…

  • Cauffiel

    Not his fault. No one ever told him that an adult man spiking a toddler like a football on the concrete could result in the child’s death. I think we can just let bygones be bygones here, right? Everyone get back to work.

  • Maddy

    A death sentence never solves anything, hello!
    Let him rot in prison until he dies of natural causes, thinking about the innocent child he killed every day.
    Yet another thing the Chinese (and a lot of Western people I must admit) have yet to learn.

    • Cauffiel

      I don’t know much about exactly how the criminal justice system works in China, but in the U.S., death row inmates often appeal again and again and again until they get the right combination of lawyers and judge who will bust them out on some technicality.

      When you off them, you never have to risk them getting out, ever.

  • Misia

    Everything else aside, a guilty man who is just so overwhelmed by sense of guilt that he actually begs to be killed is definitely not something you see each day. I know a few U.S. soldiers who should really take a page out of that.

    • Cauffiel

      Why? I would hope soldiers of any country could continue their lives after war without the slightest remorse. You just like to see lives ruined, or what?

      • KAMIKAZIPILOT

        Really? So you’re saying just because they’re soldiers they can do whatever they want on the battlefield and never feel remorse?

        • Cauffiel

          No, I’m saying it doesn’t do any good to wish a lifetime of remorse on men who probably never wanted to have to shoot anybody.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            A blanket statement like that is just ridiculous. It may apply to some soldiers but definitely not all. Just remember what you said if one day you and your family were the victims. Would you want the soldiers who raped and killed your whole family to never feel remorse? I always hold people accountable for their actions, no matter the situation.

          • Cauffiel

            I think “I know a few U.S. soldiers who should really take a page out of that” is a much worse blanket statement.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            Replace “U.S. soldiers” with Iraqi, Afghan, Japanese, Russian, Nazi, or Chinese soldiers, would you feel the same way?

          • Cauffiel

            Yes. Thats why I said “soldiers of any country” in my original comment.

            We can certainly make an exception for grown men who attack toddlers and will spend the rest of their lives in prison, but soldiers who return to civil society, I think everyone is better off if they are not batshit crazy because of what they had to do in combat.

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            So you’re saying for the benefit of the society the soldiers have to come back to after the war, the soldiers should not feel remorse or have any other mental health issues and get back to their lives as if nothing has happened? That part about protecting society I can understand, but what I don’t agree with is giving anyone a free pass on terrible things they may have done while waging war. If someone has done something terrible, they should feel remorse.

          • Cauffiel

            Mmm. ::shrug::

      • Robert Rou

        The My Lai Massacre was the Vietnam War mass murder of between 347 and 504 unarmed civilians in South Vietnam on March 16, 1968, by United States Army soldiers of “Charlie” Company of 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, 11th Brigade of the Americal Division. Victims included women, men, children, and infants. Some of the women were gang-raped and their bodies were later found to be mutilated and many women were allegedly raped prior to the killings. While 26 U.S. soldiers were initially charged with criminal offenses for their actions at Mỹ Lai, only Second Lieutenant William Calley, a platoon leader in Charlie Company, was convicted. Found guilty of killing 22 villagers, he was originally given a life sentence, but only served three and a half years under house arrest.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

        • Cauffiel

          Cherry pick an event and use it to prove that all soldiers deserve to live emotionally horrifying lives. Psshhh, can it.

  • Eduardo m.

    I’m going to play devils advocate here and say that this man does not deserve the death penalty. He is clearly in remorse therefore he is not a complete monster. Eye for an eye and we all go blind as they say. My condolences

  • ericlynch990

    this is horrible. think of all the apple iphones that kid could have built.

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