Myths Chinese Girls Have About ‘Laowai’ Foreign Men

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Here is the third part of our translation of a popular post from Tianya, a major Chinese online discussion forum. In Part 1, he discussed the differences between Chinese and foreign men that result in foreign men having more success when it comes to picking up girls. In Part 2, he shared several anecdotes and conversations he had with his foreign male friends about their love lives.

From Tianya:

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Below I’ll talk a bit about some of the false notions/myths our countrymen have about laowai.

@Myths Among Girls@

Myth #1: I am free, I am proud.

This is a myth that exists among many Chinese girls, thinking “I’m just enjoying my sexual freedom. I, one, am not taking any money and two, am not receiving gifts. I’m not after any material benefit, so my having sex [with laowai] is noble, elegant, and dignified. It is Sister [referring to oneself] who played the laowai, not the laowai who played Sister.”

This happens to be the biggest mistake/myth, because for many poor laowai, there are only two types of women in China: 1) Prostitutes; 2) Free women. However, do they respect free women more? Negative. The women that laowai look down on more are not the prostitutes, but the women they can get without spending any money, because this kind of women wants nothing but laowai dick [The original Chinese expression can be literally interpreted as “the seven inches below a laowai’s crotch”]. In men’s eyes, this kind of women is slutty, depraved, without self-respect, cheap, and stupid. So when laowai say that Chinese girls are “easy girls”, they’re referring to those girls [who have sex with laowai] without asking for money.

Another kind of laowai in China are not poor, but they are shrewd. These laowai are adept at picking up girls. In their eyes, there are also two kinds of Chinese women: 1) Smart girls; 2) SB girls. While it takes a lot of energy and money to attain the first kind of girls, it’s very convenient to get the second kind of girls who come fast and easy just like a buffet. When a man really likes a girl, he is actually not afraid of spending money to pursue her. What he fears is that the girl is so cheap that anyone can get her.

There are some shrewd laowai who will tell you during the first few dates: I feel that in China there are many girls who just want my money and a green card, but don’t really love me. I want to find someone that loves me for who I am.

The unspoken words: Let me fuck you for free. It will show that you are noble and dignified. Free girls are good girls. (17-yuan brother [mentioned in the post title] confessed to me that this is precisely the goal when he says Chinese girls are gold-diggers, to make these girls ashamed to ask for money [lest they be seen as gold-diggers].)

Many girls fall into this trap. They think: I didn’t ask for money, so why do you still look down on me? I am free, [so] I am noble. You laowai should of course respect me. However, the reality is, that 17-yuan Brother and other laowai in China call these girls “SLUTS”, “bitches” and “easy girls” behind their backs.

The only reason why they don’t call these girls prostitutes is because prostitutes cost money. In laowai’s eyes, these kind of girls are idiots or female nymphomaniacs, and are less deserving of respect than prostitutes.

If a woman is unable to make a man spend energy and money in pursuing her, then to this man, she is without value, to be dumped like a napkin at any time. (I feel this statement could also be applied to Chinese men.)

Romantic foreigners.

Myth #2: Chinese men are more practical, laowai are more romantic.

It’s actually the complete opposite. Many Chinese men are really innocent and pure, dull on the surface but romantic on the inside, able to save a lifetime’s worth of money just to buy a house to marry you.

Whereas laowai are very selfish and self-interested, spending all their money on themselves, only considering how to live a carefree, comfortable, and pleasurable life, and will never spend all his savings just to marry a woman. Especially the poor laowai in China, they often hope to get financial support from women.

Chinese men, in their bones, are simple and gullible. You only need act cute or use some small tricks and they will fall in love with you.

Laowai in China are all misers. Playing tricks on them is useless. Laowai are very cool-headed and savvy, always calculating what they can get. Many laowai are passionate when dating Chinese girls, but as soon as you bring up the topic of getting married, they slip away, because they are very clear that what the Chinese girl wants is a long-term meal ticket [commitment], whereas the laowai just wants a long-term free sex partner.

The reason why laowai in China don’t want to marry Chinese girls: Money.

Chinese men are usually very practical at the early stages of a relationship, but they become very romantic after you are together. When they first meet you, they will ask about your job, educational level, and family background. Many girls become uncomfortable at that moment, and then just “pass” on this dumb guy.

Laowai are the complete opposite. They are very romantic at the very beginning, but become very practical once you are together. When a laowai starts dating a girl, he follows his feelings only, because either way, when it comes to picking up girls, he has nothing to lose. He won’t pay attention to or ask about your personal matters, but when you want to talk about marriage with him, or officially become his girlfriend, that laowai will start calculating: Will marrying this girl be worthwhile, practical, beneficial?

So when many girls who have been with laowai for many years eventually broach the topic of marriage, it becomes a tragedy. The laowai starts calculating.

Myth #3: Laowai men like open-minded and forward girls. Just be proactive and you can win laowai‘s heart.

No, men’s nature is to hunt, they don’t like the food that comes easily. Those excessively open and forward girls, any man will enjoy them for a little bit, and then dump them. They will never be serious with those girls. In this regard, laowai and Chinese men are the same.

Some of my laowai friends always have some brain-damaged [stupid or crazy] girls constantly calling them or sending them text messages, asking about them every day, even when they are ignored and don’t get replies. To be pestered like this, laowai despise these girls a lot, thinking it is strange that they have so little self-respect, that they must have mental problems.

An American friend even begged me to answer a call and tell the girl that he changed his phone number and that the number is now mine.

Laowai also often complain that many Chinese girls, on the first meeting, say they love them and want to marry them, or after a one-night stand, cling to them refusing to let them go, demanding to be their girlfriends.

When mentioning those girls, my laowai friends always use a contemptuous, helpless, amused, and mocking tone.

A laowai told me, “I don’t understand why it is so easy for the Chinese girls to fall in love. If I like her, I will take the initiative to pursue her; even if she didn’t like me, I would still pursue her. I can’t stand those narcissistic women who assume that I love them and demand to be my girlfriends as long as I say something nice about them. Those who say they want to marry me are even more annoying. Proposing is a man’s business. It’s really weird when a woman proposes.

Asian couple holding hands.

Myth #4: Chinese men seek mistresses, while laowai are even more loyal after marriage.

Sorry, girls, the laowai men who become even more loyal and devoted after marriage refers to the normal laowai abroad [living in their home countries]. They indeed don’t go out looking for mistresses [don't cheat on their wives].

When it comes to laowai in China, after they marry you, there is a 95% probability that they will have extramarital affairs.

Why? First, laowai feel Chinese girls have a unique sexual appeal to them. This kind of appeal is not something that only you have, but rather something that every Chinese girl they see — whether beautiful or ugly, tall or short — has.

Second, China has many girls with no self-respect that will “climb on the stick”, regardless of whether or not you’re married or already have eight kids. If they want to interfere with your marriage, you wouldn’t be able to stop them. After marriage, the amount of temptations for laowai [in China] is the same as before marriage.

Third, if Chinese men have extramarital affairs for sexual pleasure, they won’t divorce you, but many laowai will want a divorce after having an extramarital affair, because they only care about their own happiness. If you can’t bring him the happiness their lover does, then he will want to divorce you.

And [after divorcing you], it will always be another woman sleeping on their bed.

There’s also a British friend, who pursued a girl for a long time and finally got her, only to dump her two weeks later. I asked him why. He said, “This girl is very pretty, but is very boring in bed, unable to accept anal sex or oral sex, nor does she know how to be on top. Too conservative. I wasn’t happy when I was with her.”

Most laowai are very practical when looking for girlfriends. You must be able to satisfy their various sexual peculiarities.

Laowai have many advantages and tricks that Chinese men don’t have when it comes to picking up girls. Chinese men pick up girls using instincts, whereas laowai use intellect.

When it comes to Chinese men meeting girls, there are usually two types: One type is the totally serious and earnest type, asking about the other person’s state of affairs, their family, their work, etc. Your purpose in doing so is to develop a relationship, but the girl will think you are a boring and annoying person. The second type is the obscene type, who is immediately touchy-feely upon meeting the girl, or tries to kiss the girl by force, or bring up sex topics. This type of men is usually despised and loathed by girls.

In contrast, when laowai meet girls, they, one, don’t ask about family and, two, don’t talk about work; they only talk about light-hearted and romantic topics, such as “I went to Vienna last week”, “I’m learning the piano this month”, “I’m very interested in Chinese history and culture”, etc. first creating a very relaxing and comfortable environment to make you let your guard down. This is the first step in picking up a girl. If you cannot make a girl relax, then you’ll have to forget about picking her up. When a girl feel relaxed, without pressure, and begins yearning for this sort of laowai high-end lifestyle, that’s when their belts start getting loose.

Next, laowai begin using their skills in complimenting and flattery, which is shamelessly praising the girl to the extreme. Even if this girl is plain-looking, he will flatter her as rare goddess, or he would compliment your intelligence, saying that you are the smartest and wisest girl he has ever met, that you will definitely have a bright future. Another trick is to make the girl feel that she is very special, very unique. He would adulate you: You are different from other girls; I think you are very special; you are like from another planet; your opinions and ideas are all very special, and I really admire you. With this kind of ploy, girls will very easily get carried away and forget themselves. This is the so-called killing with flattery, and now the belt gets even looser. (Damn it, any woman of a normal sexual orientation [heterosexual] would be unable to resist this method of pursuing someone. Who doesn’t like listening to nice words? How come Chinese men are so stingy when it comes to saying these things??)

Next, the laowai makes a move, but not like obscene Chinese men who suddenly start kissing by force or grabbing the boobs, scaring the girl away. Every laowai man is adept at flirting. He will first gaze at the girl, first seducing with his eyes, and this gazing will be one of infatuation and admiration, making you feel as if you’ve suddenly become the most beautiful woman. Then he will gently touch your arm, whisper flattering words in your ears, and at the same time blow in your ear, arousing a girl’s lust. Here, many girls will find it difficult to control themselves. Facing a romantic, wealthy, tasteful, deep, sweet man, who wouldn’t be moved/tempted?

Then the laowai who knows how to read women will evaluate the situation. If this woman has been aroused by his seduction, then he can passionately kiss her or caress her back and waist. If not, then he will wait patiently for while, say even more flattering sweet words, gaze at her a little longer, etc.

Under this circumstance, those girls who are used to the obscene and stupid Chinese men will usually be unable to control themselves, and their belts will be mostly loosened.

Finally, the laowai will make an invitation, but not like some of the SB men in China who ask: Do you want to come to my place?

Laowai will ask indirectly: I have some good movies. Would you like to go to my place to have some red wine, watch some DVDs, and listen to some music?

Here, the belts of quite a lot of Chinese girls will have completely fallen off, blindly going home with the laowai, totally manipulated.

The pickup techniques of laowai include many other advanced techniques, techniques that Chinese men wouldn’t be able to learn quickly, and even if you were to spend the time to learn them, it’d still take longer to master them. But you guys need to know where the difference in level is between you guys and laowai. Don’t just close your eyes and YY [delude yourselves] that the only reason women fall for them is because laowai have big JJ.

After all is said, some girls still don’t get it. Don’t pay for the laowai, don’t be free, don’t “climb on the stick”, don’t use them to satisfy your physiological needs. Do you think doing so and giving laowai the impression of being a free female animal is honorable and glorious?

China’s international image is currently on the rise. Foreigners all very much envy us, knowing that China will become the number 1 world power, so some girls need to stop bringing shame upon our motherland.

Actually, I used to think that no matter how bad Chinese girls are, they still have a better reputation than Thai girls. However, several days ago, a laowai friend of mine living in China said he was going to take a trip to Thailand, so I asked him casually: “Do you like going to Thailand because there are more easy girls there?”

He said, “There are a lot of easy girls in China too.”

I asked him another question, “Then between Thailand and China, which country’s girls are easier?”

This laowai didn’t even think before firmly answering, “They’re about the same.”

Many Chinese people think laowai are relatively kind and simple, that love is love, without any other goals or intentions, and since they don’t care about appearances or age, nor do they ask about the woman’s job or family background, laowai’s love is even more pure and simple.

Even many celebrities hold this belief when marrying laowai, but the truth is, many laowai in China are vain and avaricious, doing whatever they can to pursue any women they see who seem to be from a rich or connected family. What more, laowai love going after female stars, whereas Chinese feel intimidated when facing a female celebrity, not daring to pursue them. However, laowai aren’t afraid, racking their brains to chase stars who have fame and fortune.

This kind of pursuit is different from when they pursue and trick girls from poor families, not just using flattery and text messages. When laowai really want to get a woman, they will use persistence/clingy-ness, passion/foolishness, and bravery. Those are things many Chinese men do not posses.

He will call the girl more than a dozen times a day, “clinging to her like a fool” for years as if just one day, courageously chasing her without regard to all else. I know a laowai who pursued the daughter of a local entrepreneur. The third time they saw each other, he knelt down to propose, the girl moved beyond words...

If it’s a girl from a poor family, the laowai will say: I don’t understand why Chinese girls are in such a hurry to get married. Marriage is for life. We should spend several years dating, learning more about each other before deciding [to get married]. How can we rush into such a decision? (The unspoken words: Cohabitate with me for free. Brother [referring to self] doesn’t want to get married yet…)

However, when it comes to female stars or women of a certain wealth, laowai will suddenly become very romantic, taking you to meet his friends and family, demanding to meet your family, or kneeling down to propose after just a few dates, hoping to immediately capture you.

Because the laowai sees benefits involved in this marriage, he can’t wait to register for marriage.

But if the daughter of a poor family wants to marry one of those laowai fooling around in China, it would be very difficult. If you don’t believe me, go ahead and try. The Laowai will find all kinds of excuses and reasons to explain why after one or two years of being together is still not enough to marry you. All kinds of apprehensions and hesitations. He might promise to marry you in a few years, but after stalling a few years later, he still won’t marry you, procrastinating until you can’t take it anymore and break up with him.

I know a girl who cohabited with a laowai for over seven years, but the laowai refused to marry her, and they finally broke up…

Another female friend told me, “Laowai are so romantic, falling in love with a friend of mine at first sight, and then proposing to her with a roses in his hands the second time they met. This friend of mine is neither pretty, doesn’t dress up, doesn’t have a lot of education, but that laowai fell in love with her immediately.” I asked her, “What does your friend do?” She answered, “She opened a coffee shop all by herself…”

Regarding that set of photos often seen online, of an ugly Chinese woman showing off her laowai husband, many people sigh: Laowai men sure have strange tastes when it comes to women. Actually, it’s said that the woman’s family is extremely, extremely rich.

a wedding photo of a plain-looking Chinese woman and her Western husband

Myth #5: Laowai are very easygoing, don’t care about trivial matters, and are very easy to get along with.

Many Chinese girls think laowai are easy-going, easy to get along with, and don’t care about formalities and manners. The truth is, based on my observation of laowai friends around me, a portion of them are quite vain and materialistic.

This type of laowai usually belongs to the middle class. Their incomes are okay or pretty good, but they don’t have any property, no savings, yet they are covered in top clothing brands and visit all kinds of upscale places.

Of these laowai, some demand that their girlfriends have the same level of spending and tastes. For example, they like it when women wear famous brands, accessorized with jewelry. Of course they won’t tell you directly about their preferences, but they will observe your living standards.

When it comes to Chinese men, the poor ones don’t have any demands about what brands women wear, while the rich ones will buy you everything if they see you not dressing well enough. In China, only homosexuals pay attention to things like women’s clothing brands.

But when it comes to having a girlfriend, some laowai in China pay a lot of attention to your clothes and living standards, even what brand of perfume you use. If they think you are not stylish or classy enough, if you’re not a woman with tastes, even if you two get along well, you two will break up eventually.

There’s this laowai I know, who has never brought his girlfriend out to meet his colleagues. While other people brought their girlfriends to parties, he never did. He told me he was very dissatisfied with this girlfriend, that this girl didn’t dress classy enough, that she gave him a watch for his birthday, but it was an imitation of a famous brand… He felt this girlfriend wasn’t good enough to be shown to others. I don’t know what happened to them later, but once this laowai meets a so-called “classy” girl, this girl will definitely be dumped…

Chinese guys usually don’t pay attention to what women wear. When girls dress more childish, they think it’s cute. But some laowai pay a great deal of attention. They are especially disgusted with adult women dressing like little girls, such as wearing Hello Kitty or whatever. Those laowai will laugh at those girls behind their backs, thinking that those girls behave inappropriately.

“The vanity of some laowai in China is actually beyond your imagination. Take my friend P as an example: Every time before and after a date, he will Google the girl, for instance her name and email address, to searching for more information about her on the internet.

Of course not all laowai are like this, but some middle-class laowai are especially vain, focused on pursuing famous brands and so-called “classy” women.

Du Juan by Quentin Shih, Vogue China

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  • emt22

    why does this article lack any statistical evidence outside of the author’s (biased) sample size- which seems to include escaped foreign convicts that fled to China for the expressed purpose of copulating with innocent Chinese women

    • tonkotsu

      you mean that isn’t the case? lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=570579513 Eric Rooney

    Wow, that was a lot of BS. Just reverse every statement and you have something close to facts. Seems pretty down on the fairer sex as well. How about, people are different and you should get to know someone before making crazy judgments.

  • wes707

    Who here thinks China is on the slippery slope to fascism?

    • SuperHappyCow

      No one who thinks the same of the U.S.

      • wes707

        Well let’s see… Is there no plurality in political/cultural thought? Is there a state-controlled media that never faults the government? Does the government seek legitimacy through stirring up nationalistic fervor? Do they blame all of the country’s problems on outsiders? Do white Americans refer to everyone different from them as “foreigner”? Do they go hysterical when people criticize their country? Does the government pay internet commentators to flog propaganda and shape public opinion? Are foreign websites that convey different perspectives blocked?

        • SuperHappyCow

          YEAH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE COMMUNISM, AND NOT FASCISM, BUDDY.

          I would take all of the stupid points you made and turn them on their heads to illustrate how America is actually fascist, but I have shit to do.

          Also, all of the people who up voted you are fucking dumb.

          • wes707

            Since when did COMMUNISM include stock markets, private companies, securitized wealth management products, overseas listings on capitalist countries’ stock markets and a wealth disparity greater than those countries, etc?

            Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order.

            Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism. Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that seeks the mass mobilization of the national community through discipline and indoctrination. Fascism advocates a state-controlled and regulated mixed economy; the principal economic goal of fascism is to achieve autarky to secure national self-sufficiency and independence, through protectionist and interventionist economic policies. It promotes regulated private enterprise and private property contingent whenever beneficial to the nation and state enterprise and state property whenever necessary to protect its interests.

            You’re a fucking retard.

          • SuperHappyCow

            None of these systems ever actually function in the way they’re supposed to. The great thing about some of these so-talked-about systems of fascism, anarchism, socialism, communism, and anarchism is that sometimes they’re mixed together, and exist somewhere between two or 3 places. Communists that practice capitalism and suck all of the wealth out of their nation for their own gain are not necessarily fascists.

            There’s not much to say because your explanations of what those systems are mostly makes sense, but saying that China is close to behaving like that seems pretty damn hyperbolic.

          • wes707

            Communists that practice capitalism… ever heard of an oxymoron? Autocrats/despots that practice capitalism is more semantically correct. There’s nothing hyperbolic about it; except I’ll give you that the Chinese don’t only blame the outside for all of their problems as many people outside of officialdom realize the extent of corruption and nepotism. Since the communist ideology has imploded, the void can only be filled by rabid nationalism, i.e. fascism. Well, I would argue that it’s a combination of traditional Chinese feudalism and fascism.

            I actually hope China becomes even more arrogent; it will only drive the West closer together. If you followed the most recent Davos summit and the subsequent proposal of a US-EU free trade agreement, the world is coming to terms with this highly irrational country. The US and EU together account for $32 trillion of GDP, compared with China’s $7 trillion. China has no allies expect for Pakistan and maybe Russia. It is loaded with internal debt and non-performing loans issued to SOEs and provincial governments. Furthermore, China’s FX reserves have had RMB liabilities issued against them; contrary to what people think, that money is not free and clear. The Shanghai Stock Exchange has stil not recovered from the financial crisis, not that it ever really worked anyway. As exporting is so critical to its lifeblood, I’m not sure how smart it is of the Chinese to manipulate, cheat and steal from its trading partners. But you can be sure that the Chinese government will be trying to save face all the way to its demise.

            If you really believe that the US is fascist then you’re always welcome to return to the peasant fiefdom from where your ancestors spawned.

          • Hongwu Emperor

            capitalism,communism,fascism,modernity,industrialism = wickedness,stupidity,poison,etc etc.

            What does the US being fascist is related to the former post, wes?? besides, being a peasant is far more honorable than that factory hellhole the commies/republic/dictator/dumb westernized gay-ass are trying to transform China.

            And what the hell are you supposed to mean with ‘pesant fiefdom,etc’?? is that a bad thing? I dont think so. like I said, peasants have more honor than that modernity S***HOLE.

            the only thing better than being a peasant is being a ‘shi’, but that’s a VERY cool, and rare thing. [shi = aristocracy,civil servants,etc].

            restore tradition, the Son of heaven and the rites and lets kick away the westernization/modernization.

          • wes707

            Because he twice claimed in the above posts that the US was fascist. Nothing is wrong with a peasant fiefdom; now go bind the feet of your girlfriend and castrate your best friend so that he can become your eunuch. Do you have a little emperor complex?

          • Hongwu Emperor

            No, do you have this complex by the way lol? besides, the complex is not related to ‘people who would destroy everything modern to restore ancient ways, confucian rites, etc’.
            Instead that is a COLLATERAL effect of modernization and 1-child policy. go talk about that with Xiaoping and the central planners, not me.

            And I still have nothing against the good old system, like I said we need to defeat this modernity trash and restore the older stuff.

            About the castration, yeah I think some people deserves it, as I posted above. specially immoral people,people who do indecent foreign pop music,etc.

            Footbindings: that’s sad, not far from western corsets/high-heels and consumerism [worst kind of slavery invented in human history]

          • SuperHappyCow

            Spawned? You mean like demons? Like inhuman creatures? No, I think they were born, before they fucking overthrew rapists and murdering occupiers and stabbed them to death.

            See, fascism is the appearance of one thing that has the substance of something quite the opposite. It’s like the United States calling itself a free country while building half of its infrastructure on the backs of slaves and indentured servants, or continuing an arbitrary para-military, contracted war on a certain narcotics, while ignoring others. Fascism is more like shredding your constitution, and bombing civilians in other countries with drones, while never, ever declaring war. It’s like almost completely deregulating for-profit conglomerates of insurance, leverage, and consumer banks, letting them crash the economy of the entire planet, then not prosecuting any of them because they fund everybody’s political campaigns.

            You can almost explain the difference between fascism and communism, but not how China is either, or America is any different. Do you even realize that what prompted you to say that was an old reposted article about Chinese men being pissed off that the 2′s and 3′s of American society can get laid incredibly easily? Really? Dudes being butt-hurt about that, and possibly realizing that their culture has shitty values is what’s making you call them fascists?

            Whatever, bro.

    • Probotector

      Slippery slope? It’s already there.

      • MonkeyMouth

        ‘slope’?? is this a bad attempt at a pun
        ?

  • dave

    Said it in the last one, and I’ll say it again here. It’s just a numbers game.

    http://shanghaiist.com/2011/04/30/total_number_of_foreigners_in_mainl.php

    “A total of 593,832 foreigners were living on the Chinese mainland at the end of 2010, data from the sixth national census reveals. The top three home countries of the foreigners were South Korea, the United States and Japan. Among the foreigners living on the mainland, 56.62 percent or 336,245 were males and 43.38 percent or 257,587 were females. ”

    Though the author obviously isn’t including South Korean foreigners, let’s go with it. Assume that ALL THE MALES are single, eligable bachelors.

    There are over 1.3 billion Chinese. Last time I said figure 1/4 were eligible. Let’s go with 10% instead. Assume that 1/10, 130 million are eligible females.

    OK, so we’re going with 10% of Chinese females, and EVERY SINGLE FOREIGN GUY. 130 million to 330 thousand.

    That’s a ratio of nearly 400 to one. FOUR HUNDRED TO to ONE.

    If only 1%, one girl out of 100 wants a laowai, that means there are four of them lined up for every laowai. This is not a big loss for the motherland.

    For any Chinese man to think that so few laowai are some kind of threat? It speaks more about themselves than anything else.

    • dave

      Er, that should read “we’re going with 10% of Chinese being eligible females”

      But you get the idea.

      Scarcity makes things more valuable. I remember when I got engaged to my wife (yes, we DO get married), I joked that I guess I was cheap (because I was only buying her a diamond engagement ring, and not a house as is customary).

      She joked back “You may be cheap, but you’re imported!”

    • dave

      Anybody want to double-check my math?

      Or call me an idiot?

      Anything?

      Hate to have wasted the time.

  • Mudge

    What a joke, there’s so many of these drones on Chinese forums, they bitch and bitch about foreigners taking their women and need money to get near a chick, there’s no other way for them. QED, the writer is a loser with no cash, even by his own standards. Foreigners can often speak 2 or 3 languages, are free to take Chinese girls to places around the world and understand what’s out there, Its very exciting for the women, they are protected by marriage laws and will never get a beating. The local loser won’t be able to speak another language, can’t travel easily, knows nothing of other cultures and can happily thrash the living shite out of a girl then laugh about it. There’s also the “loser laowai” myth where racists don’t understand that while someone might be rattling around Beijing on an old bicycle, they often have their own car, place and savings abroad plus the option to move wherever they like on the planet. This is all usually achieved by studying, morals and hard work, not by cheating in exams, buying fake certificates on the street, cheating each other and laying in bed every night jerking off over a few dollars. That is why Chinese girls go for foreigners. Oh and did I mention, women do like large tools.

    • dave

      “What a joke, there’s so many of these drones on Chinese forums, they bitch and bitch about foreigners taking their women”

      Well, they see that it is easier for us. They don’t get that it is only easier for us with the small percentage of girls that would prefer us.

      It’s like complaining that lesbians are taking all their girls. Only even more silly, because there are way more Chinese lesbians than there are foreign guys in China.

      • Probotector

        “…because there are way more Chinese lesbians than there are foreign guys in China.”

        Haha, that’s probably true!

    • tonkotsu

      I can apply what you said to the sad lonely guys of any country, don’t just pin this on china. and negatory on the last line, sluts like large tools. get that right.

  • Mudge

    Feel the MASSIVE BUTTHURT on the site where he posted it. LOLS

  • A normal human being…

    I’ve haven’t read so much shite in a long long time. Entertaining though. This guy sure has a few issues going on in his head. If he was a Laowai, he’d be a white supremacist.

  • Gay Azn Boi

    Here’s a positive comment for a change…..

    Happy Valentine’s Day everyone!

    Btw, my bf and I have booked a nice hotel for tonight :)

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      Happy V-day to you too but I think we all could have done without the last sentence in your post. I forsee a night of you eating a lot of chocolate starfish and having a sore butthole tonight. Well maybe not a sore butthole since I’m sure you’re already well stretched out down there.

    • Probotector

      TMI

  • ShanghaiSteve

    I’ve read China Smack for several years and noticed the quality of articles continue to decrease. This article really takes this trend to a new low. It seems the article was translated and posted here simply to generate comments. There are many interesting events occurring in China, such as the self immolations in Tibet, that provide a much more compelling view into Chinese culture. I no longer see any reason to waste my time on China Smack and I’ll not be returning.

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      I have to agree with you. This article is pure garbage but then again so are most of the comments. Garbage in garbage out is the theme here.

    • tonkotsu

      i think it was pretty clear they were going to post all segments of that guys thread?

    • Dr Sun

      don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out

    • Rusty

      Then get out of there, and while you’re at it get out of China. You know where the door is.

  • Chat2Arseholes

    I probably fucked about 14 girls in china in 4 months and I wasn’t even trying. The true fact of the matter is. Chinese girls are slaves to white cock.

    Chinese men; Try being taller and more handsome. It really helps.

    Peace.

    • Probotector

      Most Chinese are very tall. I’ll grant you on the handsome thing.

      • Chat2Arseholes

        6 foot 4 is taller than 99% of Chinese people.

        There are Chinese guys who do have Game. I’m not disputing this. particularly in the younger generation.

        That’s not to say it isn’t embarrassingly easy to pick up Chinese girls. especially in nightclubs where you get smiles everywhere you look.

        • tonkotsu

          honestly it’s the older (35+), and single, chinese guys that are complaining. none of my sub 35 chinese friends have issues like this.. I can guarantee that the poster has never left his momma basement..

      • Hongwu emperor the TRU one.

        People are surely posting using my name… I would hardly even think on saying that so… wait that I’ll make an account and then they WILL see.

        • Hongwu Emperor

          Ok, that’s my turn now, and the trolls may stop even TRYING to post with my name… specially some indecent assholes above my comment. they should be castrated, like I said.

          Oh and whats wrong with that? at least if ur lucky and survive the procedure you can enter in a cool palace while the rest is being plainly fucked by the modern boring life.

    • Hongwu emperor

      That’s lack of morality. instead of revering the ancestors and paying attention to courtly manners, people do this at their home country or in a foreign nation.

      They should train in courtly manners and think of less nasty stuff.

  • MSL

    I hate stuff like this — all this “information” is worthless. You can’t generalize among men and women this way, nevermind also among nationalities. Pure bunk.

    • Probotector

      In China you can.

      • SuperHappyCow

        Probotector: China is the only racist nation ever to have lived ever, ever.

        • Probotector

          SuperHappyCow: all I can do is talk shit about American and Western society because I feel hard done by, and I hope the Chinese will accept me because they hate the same things I do.

          • SuperHappyCow

            i love america and your mother, and i dont even like china bro

            don’t hate

  • Righteous American

    To be fair, we call ALL women “SLUTS”, “bitches” or “easy girls” …and not just behind their backs.

    • donkeykong

      Not true, you are an idiot.

  • vanyuelding

    This guy need to change his frequentations : very bad !

  • Hongwu emperor

    We should castrate people and bring back the eunuch stuff, there are many who are truly deserving it.

    Specially those who complain and talk indecent stuff etc etc

    • donkeykong

      No problem. We can start with you…

      • YourSupremeCommander

        Actually, those mad words can only come out of the mouth of someone who’s already been castrated.

      • Hongwu emperor

        Starting with me or not (lol I would get to live in a palace mwahahahahahahahahhahaaaaaaaaa… revenge!)

        my alibi is that I don’t come in here talking indecent, nasty stuff. some people are plainly disgusting, they simply post stuff like ‘in 4 months I f**** over 20 people’ or ‘they are easy, etc etc’.

        That’s simply nasty, and that’s why the eunuch system needs to be restored. pick those guys out of blank range and slice a knife on his dick so he will stop thinking of such despicable things!!!!!!

        • mr.wiener

          I thought getting your meat and 2 veg sliced off used to be a viable career option.

          • Hongwu Emperor

            Yes!!
            tadaaaa! next stop the palace! xD

  • Showdaddy

    “Sorry, girls, the laowai men who become even more loyal and devoted after marriage refers to the normal laowai abroad [living in their home countries]. They indeed don’t go out looking for mistresses [don't cheat on their wives].”

    So is the author admitting that laowai (in their home countries) are more loyal and faithful than Chinese men in China? I doubt that’s what he meant to say…

  • World Peace

    why are people on here actually getting angry? I thought the poster was very articulate and made alot of sense.

    Most posters on Tianya agree with the poster, including Chinese girls that posted.

    • rusty

      Because truth that puts you in a bad light is somewhat harder to agree with…
      If you pin a cockroach to the ground, it will instantly start panicking also.

    • tonkotsu

      it’s because there are numerous truths beneath all that BS, and the little white boys here are getting all uncomfortable

  • Dude

    So the author is upset that foreigners in China are doing what Chinese men in China do? This is a very long article to say, men are men, women are women, same in every country, period.

    • tonkotsu

      yes, it’s xenophobia and it happens in any country.. are you surprised?

  • http://www.facebook.com/anthony.williams.50159 Anthony Williams

    Que emotionally offended white men in 3..2..1..

  • http://twitter.com/richardford Richard Ford

    What a load of shit.

  • ric

    in this comment section..butthurts…butthurts everywhere!

  • dave

    I tweaked the math a bit, still close to the same results.

    What percentage of Chinese women do you think would date laowai? What perentage would prefer laowai?

    number of foreign males in China: 340,000
    80% “western”: 272000
    80% single: 217600

    China population 1,343,239,923
    number of females 15-54: 306,000,000
    30% single: 91800000

    single girls per laowai 422

    10% would date laowai: 42 girls for every laowai
    5% prefer laowai: 21 girls for every laowai
    1% only date laowai: 4 girls for every laowai

    • dave

      Arg, that should read “number of females 25-54″, not 15.

      • starsky

        pedos much?

        • dave

          That’s it? That’s what you comment on? A typo? Christ, why do I bother?

          Anyway, since not many laowai are dating 54 year olds, I found some better numbers. Comes to about half the previous figures.

          https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ch.html

          Chinese females, 20-34 150,000,000
          30% single: 45000000

          single girls per laowai 207
          10% would date laowai: 21 girls for every laowai
          5% prefer laowai: 10 girls for every laowai
          1% only date laowai: 2 girls for every laowai

          Still not bad for laowai.

          • Rusty

            What a load of shit.

          • dave

            Well, that’s something, at least.

            Why do you think so?

  • Jahar

    I like how the opposite of “laid back” is “vain”

  • bert

    I don’t know one fellow American that has a mistress. I am not saying all of them are perfect husbands but the fact is I have no idea of their infidelity. In China every married Chinese man I know (except one) has a mistress and only tries to hide it from his wife, he cares not if other men know. In fact he wants other men to know to show he has the money to have one. Typical Chinese shallowness.

    • tonkotsu

      and all the chinese men i know don’t cheat, yet all the non chinese men i know cheat.. typical foreign shallowness. you see how that works?

  • Lance

    As a laowai who is married to a Chinese woman I take offense to this entire article….
    It ha been my experience that Chinese men are far worse then any laowai I have met. The author is SB, and anyone who believes this article needs wake up…..

    • tonkotsu

      oh nice! countering a xenophobic post with a stereotypical comment! you want a cookie?

  • ASP

    I feel ashamed to be laowai after reading this…-__-

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      No one should be ashamed for what others of their “race” does. Why are you ashamed of something you didn’t do or can’t control? Just treat people with respect and be responsible for yourself.

  • Beijing Devil

    This is classic. Written by a Chinese guy, this diatribe articulates completely the myths Chinese men have about themselves, women and foreign men. Chinese are naive and innocent, foreign men are shrewd and greedy, vain and materialistic, Chinese women are stupid. It is so sad how trapped Chinese men are by their culture.

    This is nothing but a large tree full or sour grapes by some loser Chinese guy who cannot possibly compete with foreign guys.

    • jesus

      indeed.

  • thetruthishere

    would it kill you to put a couple thats not white/asian in one of these articles? chinese girls date other races too! thank you – from the real world

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      It damn near might. Most Chinese I know believe the only “types” of people in this world are Chinese, caucasion and japanese and other asians, that’s it. Basically Asia and the Western countries. Blacks, Arabs, hispanics, polynesians, all native peoples, etc. don’t even exist in their minds.

      • tonkotsu

        and what is wrong with that?

        will you force someone to open up to another culture? I sure wouldn’t, they can do as they like. I see much more racist BS in the USA.

        • KAMIKAZIPILOT

          Nothing is inherently wrong with that but it just goes to show how ignorant many Chinese are about the world outside China. But then again, ignorance is bliss for some people so if they want to remain ignorant, so be it.

        • El Puma R.

          what’s wrong with that? China wasn’t like this until 80 years ago or so.

          You guys had religious freedom, a registered and respected ethnic diversity, an infinite cultural heritage and pretty much anyone could carry on a life without government’s control. Now all you have is bulldozers, pollution, iphone fever and a huge majority of resentful, dependent, intentional and materialistic people and all of you want to have EVERYTHING at the SAME TIME. You can prove my last sentence just by taking a walk around your block.

          Ignorance is NOT an excuse, mate.

    • Kai

      I don’t think Rensi’s translation of this post was intended to promote and display diversity but simply to show what some Chinese netizens think and talk about online. Most of the images used to decorate these articles are just stock photos. In this one, you have:

      1. Painting of a fictitious couple. The guy looks a bit like Chris Evans while, honestly, the woman doesn’t look all that stereotypically Asian were it not for her dress.

      2. Fabio and her lover. Both aren’t Asian.

      3. A photograph of an Asian couple, looking upon some suburban development you’d probably find in Southern California.

      4. One white/asian couple, probably the couple mentioned in the translated text.

      5. Some fashion magazine shot of an Asian girl in vaguely Chinese Communist era inspired haute couture, without any white pairing.

      So that’s 1 out of 5, or 2 out of 5 if you include the painting.

      • dim mak

        Kai!

        H-hi ^^

        • Kai

          LoL, get off my nuts you creepy bastard.

      • El Puma R.

        Yeah I knew it was Fabio ! My mom still has a crush on him lol

        • Kai

          I actually don’t know if it is Fabio but when I think of a long-haired guy in a melodramatic romantic situation, I think of Fabio.

          • El Puma R.

            lol ! The most beautiful man in the cosmos.

            Full Frontal – fabio

            check it on youtube, if you have it. it’s old but funny.

    • tonkotsu

      this blog isn’t here to post/write about what YOU wanna hear. get out.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/kevin.yu.54943 Kevin Yu

    I chuckled at this part:

    “When it comes to laowai in China, after they marry you, there is a 95% probability that they will have extramarital affairs.”

    Somehow I really see it differently. When I worked there, my colleagues, with wifes or gfs, always went to KTVs to fuck some prostitutes. And it seems it is kinda common to do that. I always were kinda confused, how one colleague always showed me his children and wife-photos, while fucking with some KTV-Girls…

    And I also heard such stories from other friends who worked there. Some had a big contract coming up and after that all parties went to KTV. The foreigner with a gf of course did not wanna have sex with some KTV-Girls, but his contract-partner even glared at him for being “disrespectful” to not offer an invitation. So he went to the room and paid the KTV-Girls for just playing on their mobile-phone for 1 hour.

    Doesnt it count as cheating in China if you fuck some random KTV-Prostitutes during a business-trip, or what?

    • tonkotsu

      ah I see! so your experience means it’s the same for ALL the respective races you dealt with! glad to see an unbiased comment……………….

  • Kiff

    Pretty convenient this was posted on Valentine’s Day, no? Obviously this guy’s girlfriend broke up with him around this time of year when she heard that ‘laowais’ treat girls like they exist, and want to be nice to them, unlike the Chinese who treat them the same as other days: like a freaking object. Seriously China, learn some equality, stop sucking your mother’s teat, and you might not have to recruit virgins to post such insecure tripe: get a grip.

  • Zebadee

    Once again, the author of this text uses the derogatory word “laowai.” Once again, we all have to assume he isn’t an academic. Perhaps rather deprived of an education because he comes from a poor village in the countryside (???) Perhaps he visited a library the first time he arrived in the big city (???)

    He wrongly assumes (as most Chinese do) that all foreign faces in China share the same culture, values, language, and behavious; obviously again because of a lack of education. Academics would never use such strong language in a negative context to make a point. Any foreign author writing an article about Chinese people would NEVER refer to them as grub monkeys, factory monkeys, or brain donors. This is racist language and would be severely criticised.

    Or, is it because the author is angry because he cannot find a girlfriend? Perhaps he lost his love to a foreign man and is venting his frustration through derogatory language …. One hopes that he will gain a better understanding of his own society and culture in the future.

    • tonkotsu

      oh get that PC crap outta here

    • mr.wiener

      Really though, what is wrong with “Laowai”?. I think it’s all in the attitude it is said with, which is matter of fact and neutral.

      • dave

        Would you refer to an immigrant as “foreigner” to their face in your home country?

        Sure, it’s just a descriptor, but so is something like “black.” Do you hear “I have a black friend!” Or “Hey, look, a black person!” *stare*

        Even if it’s not insulting, it’s insensitive.

        • mr.wiener

          No one ever accused Chinese of being sensitive, even or especially to other Chinese.
          Most of us are westerners, we come from countries that are made up of immigrants.China is by and large a mono-cultural country [non-han chinese citizens excepted] Other races are something new to them.
          I live in china-lite and my wife is Taiwanese but dark skinned. Taiwanese keep telling her how good her Chinese is for a foreigner.
          In Australia I got mates who are 2nd and 3rd generation Australian[Asian] and people still come up and ask them how long they’ve lived in Australia.
          Point is you find dum-arses everywhere…..even if a lot of them do live in China :)

          • El Puma R.

            Though there’s something to note, which is the amount of times he keeps repeating the word “Laowai” just like GW Bush said “Terror” In the last decade in order to keep the yanks freaking out. You’re right, it’s all in the attitude and context so I must say the article is demagogue and racist (And it’s clear he lost his girl to a foreigner, probably when they were abroad, I’ve seen how they take they bfs and gfs abroad with them)

  • http://www.kalanstar.com/ KopyKatKiller

    I think this guy really doesn’t like Chinese women, especially Chinese women who date non-Chinese men. Reading this, I’ve learned more about some Chinese guys’ mentality than I learned abut the infamous laowai who Chinese girls should stay away from.

    • donkeykong

      Chinese or not, he is obviously a misogynist that does not like or understand women.

    • donkeykong

      The author is obviously a stupid little boy that does not like or understand women.

    • adsfasf4

      not all chinese guys are like this one. the sensible ones probably aren’t even trolling the internet like this author is. but yeah seems like what most chinese men do is whine about local women with foreign men. i’d probably liken this author to an american redneck in the deep south who doesn’t like seeing white women with ethnic men.

    • tonkotsu

      you learned about a lonely blogger, not chinese men

  • TBL

    *Reads article above. Has a good long loud laugh about its silliness*.

    *Reads comments below. Has a good long loud laugh about the silliness of the majority of them*

    At the end of the day, the shit spewed by the article writer and the crap spewed by most of the commentators here is simply just that – shit. Just that the shit comes from different animals. Still shit nonetheless.

    • Rick

      Don’t worry, we’ll have another article like this within a week. Seems to be the way ChinaSmack is going. I don’t even bother to read them anymore.

  • matt

    I’m really sick of this article. I volunteer to be the guy to be interviewed. Please ask me about my relationship history in China. I dated the same girl for 4 years, now we are married and own property together. We are happy, and successful.

    • mr.wiener

      Kudos bro.

    • tonkotsu

      cool story bro, but that crap won’t get clicks

  • Hongwu Emperor

    They (the common people) should do something useful such as learning calligraphy or reading something interesting instead of thinking about ”that”.

  • adsf323523423423

    i bet he fantasizes what it’s like to be a woman, like, a lot. A LOT. since he seems to think he understands everything about women. i don’t think he understands women at all.

  • aclcla

    this is total trash…..i wanna find this s.o.b and beat him over the head with his own stubby dick.

    throughout this whole article it mentions not once anything that may hint that women are human beings too, who therefore have a sex drive, and do want sex too. and sometimes its just best with no strings attached!! that doesn’t make them cheap or easy!! that view has just been propagated for so long because of dickwads like this guy!!!!

    arggggg.

    and all that crap he goes on to say…..shows even through conversations wtih all his ‘laowai friends’, he still has a very very chinese understanding of ‘western’ culture, and has little right to write so much trash. i hope no one is listening to this guy.

    • tonkotsu

      “that doesn’t make them cheap or easy!!”

      LOL yes it does

      • El Puma R.

        No it doesn’t. Women are free to chose just like you. So I guess you’re Chinese. And we men are way easier than women.

        • tonkotsu

          it’s a nice double standard for guys

          we F a lot, its good for us

          girls F a lot, they’re sluts

          that’s just the way it works

          • El Puma R.

            That’s the way it works in chauvinist societies, which is a huge majority. Respect women man, and remember your mother is one of them and she might like it just like you. So respect her.

  • nitewings

    i really can’t for the life of me understand why people ALWAYS have to focus on the difference on race. if two people are together, then just be together for love. that’s it and that’s all you have to think about. what does it matter if he’s a foreigner or a chinese?! wtf is wrong w these people. f*ckin narrow minded small citizens.

  • Justin

    I have to call bullshit on this myth that all foreigners are shrewd Cassanovas because it necessarily conflicts with the stereotype that we are all losers as well. Actually I think a lot of guys come to China who don’t get laid a lot in their home countries, but that doesn’t necessarily make them losers, either. They are smart and have good jobs, but are just a little bit nerdy or shy, so they don’t get much attention from women back home, many of whom prefer the macho alpha male type. But when they get to China, they do very well because they are sweet and sensitive, which Chinese girls like. These are usually the types of guys who marry Chinese girls and become devoted husbands. But I guess that doesn’t fit neatly in OP’s view of the “two types” of foreigner.

  • cheshired

    What misogynistic and racist post. I hope you die as a virgin.

  • RScottie

    Obviously written by an “SB” China man who is jealous of our prowess. Many of us are not concerned with a woman’s money because we have our own property and wealth in the Good Ole’ USA. On the contrary the poor Chinese women are clearly the best for marriage and demand the highest respect especially if they can take care of a home and family.

  • RScottie

    The Chinese woman that talk of money and brand names are the gold diggers and need to be steered away from. They are the ones looking for the meal ticket. BY the way (to the writer of this article). Foreigners gain instant status when they arrive here. We do not come here for status. The Chinese government may get respect for advancements in the previous century, but all foreigners know that the Chinese people are about 50-100 years behind their own government and the rest of the world. This is why many women do not get respect (nothing to do with having sex), because they still think in the stone age of man (eating like they are still in the stone age as well).

  • Germandude

    “Myth #2: Chinese men are more practical, laowai are more romantic.

    It’s actually the complete opposite. Many Chinese men are really innocent and pure, dull on the surface but romantic on the inside, able to save a lifetime’s worth of money just to buy a house to marry you.”

    Since when is a “cultural” standard called romantic? If EVERYONE HAS to do it, because that’s how it’s common practice (standard), how on earth does he try to call it “romantic”?

    This whole series is written by an insecure loser that has problems identifying why he can’t score. And as it’s a cultural habit in China, he blames others on his lack of success, goes online to gain a virtual face by basically popping up “Hey girls and guys, I figured it all out”.

    Great troll-post to this guy and to cS for reposting it. kudos

  • KaneVast

    more racist drivel.

    The funniest part is that is refers to non Chinese people as ‘laowai’ as if every person outside of China is exactly the same (We are as different as Koreans, Japanese, Thai’s, Chinese and so on)…..this also implies he hasn’t been outside China as it’s the typical mindset.

  • Tom

    I wanna write racist vitriol as well. Give me a column. I’m an ignorant, misogynist pin-dick, surely I qualify.
    Breaks my heart that this type of shite goes into print. Chinese women have it hard enough without tool-bags like this spaeking on their behalf.
    Hilarious read though. Rensi = douche

  • kamakamafruite

    Well someone is upset, because he can’t get a girl. :p
    let’s blame “the laowai” for my incompetent!

  • Anon992

    Vive la revolution de sex in China!!!

    Then women having extra-marital sex with men will never be referred to as ‘giving it away for free’ and the Chinese girl’s orgasm would be liberated for all men to enjoy giving… even the Chinese men!!!

    Who knows what this might do for Chinese society if women were encouraged to follow their lust and Chinese men got laid more! Chinese artists topping the US charts?! Chinese Nobel peace prizes?! A Chinese novel that’s worth reading?! A Chinese cure for cancer?! New subcultures?! poetry?! intellectualism?! individualism?! democracy?!

    Orrr… the girls would get fatter.. drink more, smoke more and think that shopping, celebrity gossip and watching repeated shit sitcoms about happy american people whilst eating overpriced ice cream and complaining about why all the men in the world are not good enough for them and how men shouldn’t judge girls for looking fat and unattractive is the best thing in the world…. errrmmm..

    Boooo! Hissss!!! Down with the Chinese women’s sexual revolution!! Boooo

  • SB

    Worthless junk. Hopefully this gets slammed on all the sites it gets posted on. Guy is a grade A SB

  • Red Scarf

    laowaibounder – A Chinese mans reality blog verison of Chinabounder where the Chinese women all run away from the evil clutches of laowai’s

  • El Puma R.

    not this guy again..

    Is it Fabio on the second picture?

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