Thugs in Russia Rob Chinese Nationals, Beat One to Death

A hand holding a pistol gun.

From NetEase:

Three Thugs Carrying Guns Attack Multiple Chinese Citizens in Russia, Killing One

CRI Online report: According to a RUSNEWS Moscow December 22nd report, three thugs holding guns and carrying tasers attacked multiple Chinese citizens in the Yekaterinburg city Kirov district, and beat one of the Chinese to death. This information was disclosed to RUSNEWS by a source in law enforcement authorities.

The source said: “At 7:30 in the morning at Building 29 on Communist Youth League 40th Anniversary Avenue, three unknown individuals stopped multiple Chinese nationals who lived in a rented apartment in the building. The thugs threatened the Chinese nationals with handguns and tasers, forcing them back into their rented apartment, where the thugs beat them after tying them up. The thugs robbed 30,000 rubles, 5000 RMB, a notebook computer, four mobile phones, and some jewelry from the apartment before running away.

He indicated that one of the victims died on the scene from excessive injuries.

Russia’s Ministry of Internal Affairs Press Center confirmed that its investigative committee has already filed the case as a crime of “robbery and intentional serious injury causing death”.

(Original Title: Three Thugs Attack Multiple Chinese Citizens in Russia, Killing One)

Comments from NetEase:

网易浙江省湖州市手机网友 ip:183.142.*.*:

China only has one enemy: Russia.

网易广西南宁市手机网友 ip:58.59.*.*:

How can this be, doesn’t Xinwen Lianbo always say Russians are quite friendly?

网易黑龙江省齐齐哈尔市手机网友 ip:60.14.*.*:

When can the territories that Russia owes China be raised?

衡山小强 [网易湖南省长沙市手机网友]:

The motherland is your strong backing! [Pokes fun at the notion that the Chinese government will look after its citizens when they are abroad.]

网易广东省广州市手机网友 ip:117.136.*.*:

“The source said: “At 7:30 in the morning at Building 29 on Communist Youth League 40th Anniversary Avenue, three unknown individuals stopped multiple Chinese nationals who lived in a rented apartment in the building. The thugs threatened the Chinese nationals with handguns and tasers, forcing them back into their rented apartment, where the thugs beat them after tying them up. The thugs robbed 30,000 rubles, 5000 RMB, a notebook computer, four mobile phones, and some jewelry from the apartment before running away.”
The motherland is your strong backing!

网易俄罗斯手机网友(128.68.*.*):

I happen to live in Russia. There are good and bad people, but Russians are very xenophobic and here, we don’t feel much friendliness from them most of the time. What more, the legal system and institutions here are very poor and robbers are especially common, especially among people of the Commonwealth of Independent States, such as those people from Tajikistan. Here, we practically don’t interact much with that country’s people.

网易天津市网友(111.161.*.*): (responding to above)

Only in China are foreigners treated as being a higher class of people. In any country in the [rest of the] world, there are xenophobic behaviors, because foreigners take job opportunities away from them, so being anti-foreigner is very normal.

网易山西省大同市手机网友(221.205.*.*): (responding to above)

Wrong, Russia is particularly xenophobic… I’ve visited before, my childhood friend studies in Russia, and the [living environment in] top 10 major cities are about the same as in China’s counties. The people are not the least bit friendly. What more, China’s greatest enemy in modern history is not Japan and not America but rather Russia! Those who don’t understand this, please get over the Great Firewall and supplement your brain [knowledge].

要有爱要和谐 [网易北京市网友]: (responding to above)

Either way, the national conditions in Russia are definitely different from what is propagandized by the Heavenly Kingdom‘s CCAV and promoted in [Chinese] military TV programs.

网易河南省手机网友(117.136.*.*):

When the country is strong, the people will be strong!

高仙芝大王1戚继光大王 [网易湖北省武汉市网友]: (responding to above)

Let me tell you people why Chinese people are always being robbed abroad!!!!!
Chinese people are like sheep, with natures that are weak and easily bullied, their physique generally not as big and strong as white people/black people, and after being bullied, they dismiss big things as small things and small things as nothing, valuing peace [avoiding trouble] above all, only knowing how to fight amongst themselves, never uniting into a group that fights outward!!!!!
Good people are bullied by people, good horses are ridden by people!!! You always pick the soft persimmons [people bully the weak]!!!

What you don’t want done to you, don’t do to others??? Foreigners don’t think so!!!
Only one’s own interests/benefit is the definition of justice and the yardstick of evil!!! Limited resources, survival, power, interests, military power!!!
Foreigners continue to have the nature of encroachment and of wolves, bullying the weak and fearing the strong, accommodating the strong, doing business with the strong and robbing the weak!!!!!

If you don’t invade and expand when strong and powerful, are you supposed to invade and expand when weak and small??? If you are weak and feeble, then the one who gets robbed is you!!!
In your own ethnic group, treat others as you would have others treat you; but towards outsiders, you should be ruthless!!!
China’s wealth and strength and military support remains insufficient; What is also needed among overseas Chinese is a nature of unity (which is far weaker than that of Japanese people) and of a wolf (of being bold and fierce)!!!!
In 1945, Chiang dispatched Wang Shijie, sold out Outer Mongolia, to get Soviet Russia to send troops to Manchuria.
Just who made the Begonia into a big rooster [the shape of China's borders on maps?]??? Would Russia spit out the benefits/gains it already had in hand??? [Would China] fight an all-out nuclear war with Russia???

zidro [网易广东省网友]: (responding to 183.142.*.*)

Russia is not just China’s enemy, it’s even more the enemy of the world’s people.

From Phoenix Online:

Three Chinese Businessmen Suffer Home Robbery, One Dead, Criminal Case Already Filed

China News Service Moscow December 12 report (reporter Jia Jingfeng) — The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Sverdlovsk Oblast stated on the 22nd that three Chinese businessmen in a rented apartment in Yekaterinburg suffered a home robbery, with one person killed, and that the local investigative committee has already filed this case as a crime and laughed an investigation. China’s Consulate General in Yekaterinburg confirmed the identities of the three Chinese citizens on the 22nd.

The local Ministry of Internal Affairs stated that the incident happened in an apartment building located on Communist Youth League 40th Anniversary Avenue in Yekaterinburg, at 7:30 in the morning of the 21st. Three Central Asian-looking criminal suspects waited at the door of the apartment building. When three Chinese people (one male, his wife, and an elderly person) walked out of their rented apartment, the criminal suspects coerced the three Chinese individuals back into their rented apartment with firearm-like weapons where they bound and beat them. The Chinese male died on the scene from excessive injuries while another injured was taken to the hospital and has already been discharged. The murderers robbed a total of 30,000 rubles (about 910 USD), 5000 RMB (about 823 USD), 4 mobile phones, 1 laptopc computer, and jewelry.

According to statements by a source quoted by the reporting Russian website, the criminal suspects reportedly knew beforehand that the residents of this apartment were businessmen from China.

At present, authorities have already filed a case over this crime and dispatched an criminal investigation group to the scene to investigate. It is separately known that the Chinese Consulate General in Yekaterinburg has already contacted Russian authorities on the 22nd, asking them to solve the case and arrest the perpetrators as soon as possible, as well as adopt the necessary measures to ensure the safety of Chinese citizens and their property.

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  • Joey

    Everybody gets mugged in Russia, especially if you are carrying that much money.

    • http://karmaeconomics.blogspot.com/ lavista4u

      I guess you never been to a country called USA and its city called Chicago which has more murder rate than Afghanistan…

      Google Crime in Chicago…and be blown away which the mainstream press never reports it to keep the Fake American Dream Alive

      • ptptp

        Why is the US always dragged into the conversation?

        • Middle_Kingdum

          Because it is the Wumao duty to do so.

      • Alexander

        Chicago and Detroit are not representative of the whole nation….. just like Moscow isn’t representative of all of Russia….

        • moeimoei

          I’ve walked in Detroit alone at night before (single female), no problem! Russia sounds worse than Detroit…

          • Gregorius Lignator

            I lived and worked in Detroit. It makes sense to pay attention to your surroundings, but there are many fine people.

          • Alexander

            Its all fun and games until you get a saturday night special pointed in your face…. However, I think Mexico City beats Moscow or Detroit any day of the week…..

          • Gregorius Lignator

            Been mugged once. No fun.

          • Alexander

            HO HO HO this is a stick-up, now give Santa all the money in the drawer….

          • Alexander

            It depends where in Russia and also it probably would depend where in Detroit. There are definitely lots of people who get in fights in Russia, but unlike the US, there aren’t so many people packing heat….

      • hailexiao

        I’m pretty sure Afghanistan has a higher murder rate than 380 per 2.7 million people, especially if reporting standards were the same as Chicago.

      • Sleepy

        You know Kanye West albums don’t count as real news, right?

      • Joey

        Do you think I give a fuck about the US and more specifically about Chicago? I have walked through the streets of Bridgeport at night and have had no issues besides a bum asking me for some change. Bridgeport, people. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qna1JHIsyVM

        • Wodowsan

          May West had once said “Compared to New York, all cities are Bridgeport.” Lived in Bridgeport, CT too, and outside Detroit, Found Detroit to be much worse than Bridgeport.

      • Guang Xiang

        jealous much?

      • David

        I am from Chicago, it is true there is a lot of murder there but what people forget is who gets murdered. While it is occasionally an innocent bystander it is almost always somebody involved in the drug trade. Drug dealers killing drug dealers and some innocent people also get hurt. This is one of the reasons it keeps going on, the deaths all happen in the very worst neighborhoods in one part of the city. Since most people are safe only those who live in those areas are worried (as they should be). This is not to say it is ok, far from it. But unfortunately many people feel that as long as it is contained to a few neighborhoods, it is not a big threat. I live out in the suburbs where it is very safe but that does not mean I think those who run the city are doing a good job.

      • Mark

        lollll

    • hailexiao

      Until recently you might even get mugged by the cops.

    • North-eastern

      Everybody will get mugged, no matter where, when the mugger is carrying a gun. End of the story.

  • misanthropytoday

    life is shit cheap in Russia. I’m surprised an incident like this hasn’t already happened to Chinese nationals.

    • Chin_Key

      life is shit cheap in Russia. I’m surprised an incident like this hasn’t already happened to Chinese nationals.

      If life is shit cheap in russia, a chinese life to them must be worthless. I mean, ‘made in china’ is the cheapest. Isn’t it?

  • Cauffiel

    You’re not in Hubei anymore, Da Er Si.

  • YourSupremeCommander

    Chinese are easy targets all over the world.

    • Free Man

      And especially after finding out that chinese tourists like to buy expensive stuff and pay cash.

    • nqk123

      never liked jackie chan, risking his life for fame is just stupid

      • Kate

        how did he risk his life?

        • nqk123

          numerous near death stunts for many of his “old” movies. Hollywood produced movies he was in are child play.

    • hailexiao

      Chinese-Americans, on the other hand, totally different story.

      • hmunkey

        People mess with Chinese Americans? From what I’ve seen, nobody really thinks about them much at all — in positive or negative ways.

        Americans just have a live-and-let-live attitude regarding Asian immigrants as they don’t really commit crimes or make themselves politically visible.

  • markus peg

    Ironic as hell that the comments say Russians and foreigners in general are really xenophobic…

    • mai lin

      at least in China or any east asian country,they never have beat foreigners to death

      • Myk

        Na, they just stab them. Like the random American guy earlier this year in Beijing, or the Canadian Girl in Shanghai in 2008, who surprised a burglar in her Apartment in 2008,… Or the whole German Family, including 2 Children, in Nanjing a few years back, for the same reason…

      • Rick in China

        I am seriously thinking this is a trollerpost. There’s no way anyone can be so absolutely ridiculously ignorant as to say such a thing.

        “at least in China or ANY east asian country,they have never shat anything but flowers and cupcakes from their mouths”

        • mai lin

          if they dont like you, asians just ignore and sometime say somethin mean. But never they gang up and beat you to death

          • Myk

            You may want to read the actual article again, the thugs are described as “central ASIAN”…

          • mr.wiener

            You really don’t have any idea do you?

      • markus peg

        Every country has killed foreigners at some point or another, your comment is moot.

        I do not hate China or Chinese people, but i stand by my above comment. However, obviously i felt it wasn’t necessary to mention that of course what the Russians did in this story is completely wrong, sick and evil!

        By the way, just to let you know, my grandads girlfriend [at the time] was kidnapped and raped to death by Chinese in the past (1920s) It’s unbelievable that you would even believe that bullsh*t that Asians have never beaten a foreigner to death….

        • Dr Sun

          thats terrible to hear your granddads giirl friend was raped by a Chinese man, as was my wifes grand mother by American GI’s,.just remember something , no Asian country colonized or committed genocide in the west, did they ?

          • Zappa Frank

            Which genocide?
            They did not do, just because they were not powerful enough. However we can talk about mongols, or weren’t Asian enough?

          • markus peg

            That’s not the point in issue here, the persons comment said no Asian as ever beaten a foreigner to death. My reply is saying that EVERY country has at some point beaten a foreigner to death for one reason or another.

            We are not talking war here we are talking about a bunch of people beating someone to death because they are a different race or citizen of another country. All counties have a % of moronic people who do such things.

        • mai lin

          so stupid. even bring what happened in 1920s.

          in the past white pigs went to another countries killed, raped, stole, … . i’m sick and tired of hypocrites of the whites.

          • Zappa Frank

            If you are sick of hypocrites you may stop to write them. He had just replied showing that Asians aren’t by any mean better (nor worse), just give them occasion…as for japs in china or Koreans in Vietnam

          • mai lin

            are we talking about the wars right now? u dumb pig

          • Zappa Frank

            Wow dumb pig…Chinese don’t even have fantasy when is about to offend.
            I guess you will soon turn out in another Eattot. I’ve already walked that walk..adieu

          • mai lin

            sorry but pigs are never yellow but white pink like your people

          • Zappa Frank

            Do You think to be the first to came out with such kind of pictures? You think this will make us angry? Haha… I told you,not even a bit of fantasy, just copy the same thing to death..

          • mai lin

            lol i dont even try make you angry. because you called me yellow pig (but you edited it)

          • Chin_Key

            i didn’t call you a pig. I called you a bitch. You prefer that right? You imagine being bent over.

          • mai lin

            sorry. not attracted to pink dicks

          • Chin_Key

            Good. Because i gots something long and dark for you:-)

          • Zappa Frank

            Yes I did and edited because I was wrong doing so, still was just a verse of your dumb pig as Chinese offend always.

          • mai lin

            it’s just another name we call whites.

          • Zappa Frank

            Please don’t need to explain, I know what it is. It’s two years I’m in china. So you did decide to come in a blog where mostly are whites with this? Good luck, I’ve already seen this movie and I prefer to remain out. Bye

          • mai lin

            bye

          • Chin_Key

            What the fuck are you talking about? It sounds like you haven’t been fucked properly. ZAPPA? Zap Her!

          • Chin_Key

            What about you yellow people? Killed many Uyghurs recently? Hypocritical bitch.

          • mai lin

            a painted dick? lol

          • Chin_Key

            Hahahah! All natural.

          • Chin_Key

            But you are still avoiding my question regarding Uyghurs. You steal their land, kill them, rape them. Are you surprised that maybe it was Uyghurs who did this? And if so, do you blame them? This was probably revenge. China kills their people? They’ll get yours one day.

          • mai lin

            i never said that china is innocent or angel.

            in my very first reply i said asians maybe xenophobic but they have never beat foreigners to death. unlike what happened to asians in Russia, USA or Austrialia

          • Chin_Key

            Well you have the Boxer riots. Plenty of foreigners were beaten to death. China currently occupies the land of the uyghurs and kills those people routinely. Most people are unaware of this outside china. Some of us know this because we have lived there for years. Foreigner or not. Killing is killing and I would appreciate it and respect you if you replied with an admission that yes, china is killing and raping uyghurs, occupying their land, stealing their resources, and forcing uyghur girls into marriage with han chinese and something needs to be done to stop this.

            Lets see if you can admit this directly and not some flimsy ‘i didn’t say china is innocent or angel’. Admit china’s crimes and we move from there.

          • markus peg

            Yes, thats what i am saying every country has people that have done these kind of things. you said Asias has never done that kind of thing. Why are you targeting whites? I gave the 1920s example because that one is related to me, im sure if you used google or baidu you could find other instances where Chinese beat up foreigners (which you say they have never done). I am saying every country has done this kind of thing even though the masses of people would disagree with it.

          • guest

            “so stupid. even bring what happened in 1920s.”

            A bit of double standards where, so its unfair to comment on things happening in the 1920s, yet’s it ok to bring up say the opium wars that about in the 1840 and 1860.

            but with all honesty its not the “whites” who screw up china the most it was the “yellows” er I mean those other “yellows” er I meant the Japanese. Even in the 8 nation alliance they made up 40% of the forces which was set up due to a out pouring of xenophobic peasants running around beating foreigners to death.

    • Dr Sun

      i agree, as most westerns are so racist, its funny they call that out

      • Zappa Frank

        Westerns are probably the less racist. Find me out a society less racist then a western one.l

        • Dr Sun

          China

          • Zappa Frank

            Nope, Try again.

          • Dr Sun

            costa Rica,, Thailand, Singapore, Hong Kong..take your pick

          • Zappa Frank

            Two state-cities highly westernized and seems to me you know even not so much of them since Singapore even had racial riots in 60s and racial issues are still on…however in none of these there are so many races as in wester countries. Truth is that western are less racist than most

          • Myk

            you don’t consider Costa Rica a western society?

            And you should ask a Black Guys opinion about racism in any of the other countries you named. Here is one about Thailand: http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader/reader2164.htm

          • Dr Sun

            do you consider costa rica western, I don’t, costa ricans dont and the vast majority of Americans consider them a third world, developing, south American, latino country.

          • Myk

            Despite all that, it’s still in the west.

      • ex-expat

        So how did Barack Obama get elected?

        • Dr Sun

          don’t ask me, poor competition maybe !

      • markus peg

        A % of any countries population has some racists, I wouldn’t say “most”, but being xenophobic is more extreme. With a bigger population its safe to say they will have a higher % of those kind of people. I find those that comment online and pop up on Chinasmack are far worse than most normal people you would meet on the street, peoples views become more extreme behind a computer screen.

  • Chris Granzow XI

    They said all that stuff about how xenophobic russians are and how russia is their number one enemy and needs to be destroyed. Then what does the next article say: “…three Central Asian-looking criminal suspects waited at the door of the apartment building…” Lmao they’re salty.

    • YourSupremeCommander

      “Central Asian”… Why can’t they just say Muslim?

      • PixelPulse

        Because theyre central Asian.

      • North-eastern

        Cuz that’s just too mainstream.

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    But it isn’t land they are interested in, it’s the oil under it. And the lands to the north don’t have oil underneath, just a lot of missiles…

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    And missiles. Russian missiles. That say it belongs to Russia.

  • Guang Xiang

    um, perhaps you need a better understanding of how the media works.

    • Elijah

      I think he just demonstrated that he understand the media fairly well.

      Lowest common denominator as always, appeal to the simpletons and dumb everyone down as a result.

    • Chin_Key

      um, perhaps you need a better understanding of how the media works.

      In china? Forget THAT as a project. The two words don’t reconcile. ‘Understand’ ‘China’ Nah, doesn’t work.

  • Guang Xiang

    You go where ever your business takes you. I know an American friend who works in PNG and needs bodyguards around her 24/7 because of the cannibals.

  • morphium

    Making a good point, man. You’ve heard that and no confirmation is needed. All Russians are cold and extremely unfriendly, there are no exceptions. Just keep on a good job spreading the rumours. Never even think of going to Russia and if you hear someone speaking that language around you, better leave the area immediately. There’s a good chance you’ll get murdered. If you are a good man, you’ll also inform all the people around you, so that they won’t get hurt.

    • Asplund

      I never once said it was true. It’s the opinion of the overwhelming majority of people who have visited Russia n my circle, around 12 or so people. The purpose of my post was to spark discussion confirming or denying that.

      Christ.

    • Asplund

      The fact that your comment is the only pro- Russian one is evidence enough.

      As for me I live in god- forsaken Detroit Michigan so I know how to deescalate, svoid, and or flee.

      I’m always packing, but I already have PTSD from Iraq and I don’t want anymore violence in my life.

    • BigpimpingBalla

      i got couple friends studying in saint peterburg,heard that western russia is more rough

  • morphium

    I’m surprised to know that people of other nationalities are immortal sometimes. Visiting Russia will eliminate everyone’s skills of living eternally. No matter whether you are African or Tibetan. It’s so doleful to be Russian in this universe.

  • ponquenet

    Russia is just one of the places you never hear anything good about, even from Russians themselves.

  • ponquenet

    zerg rush ‘em

    • hailexiao

      Don’t zerg gush India though, they’ll zerg rush right back.

  • Alexander

    Crime in Western Russia is as dangerous as in Xinjiang, criminals are rough there. So Chinese people who go to Western Russia should be prepared just like they should be if they venture into parts of Xinjiang….. Eastern Russia is more mixed as far as Asian people are concerned and would be a safer place for Chinese nations. It was reported in the news recently that in Eastern Russia many farms there are outsourced to Chinese. Chinese businessmen own the largest pig farm in all of Eastern Russia….. go figure!

  • nqk123

    that long post near the end is the true feeling of China. since the very beginning of this nations, that mentality has never disappeared

  • hailexiao

    The ‘weak physical builds’ thing is quite true. Here in Boston it’s quite easy to tell the Chinese from Chinese-Americans; the former are much skinnier and look more fragile. I don’t know why this is–didn’t China solve its nutrition problem 30-something years ago? China is richer than a lot of Latin American countries, but Latinos still have more robust physiques on average.

    • Kate

      it probably has to do with the diet in china and plus the major don’t go to the gym and lift weights

      • Kate

        @rickinchina:disqus but as the commentator before me stated, the Chinese-Americans are less likely to be on the super skinny side. Of course genetic plays a role but so does diet. If u look, a lot of the younger Chinese/Chinese-American are also taller than their parents.

        • Zappa Frank

          even Chinese in china are taller than their parents, young Chinese are not short. Still, their lack of physical activity and a diet with very low in protein leave them fat-skinny in the same time.

          • Kate

            yes I know, that’s why I said Chinese/Chinese-American. All I was just trying to say is that in regards to their physical build, it’s a combination of diet and genetics. Even though the younger Chinese in China are taller than their parents, a lot are still skinnier than the Chinese Americans because of their diet and lifestyle. All though I wouldn’t say young Chinese aren’t short. I’m Chinese American and only 5’3″ :/

          • Zappa Frank

            I don’t have any statistic, just view of people here in shanghai. sincerely I’ve seen a big difference only with north Europe but I guess here in shanghai the average height for a young male is around 1.75-1.80, that is not tall, but neither is short. Girls are more variable, I’ve seen girls wannabe 1.5 but also a lot more than 1.8. I was told in north china if you’re under 1.8 you are 半残废, i wouldn’t call them short…

          • Kate

            at the risk of sounding ignorant….I have no idea how tall 1.8 is but I’ll assume its taller than me and I can’t read chinese…
            and I highly doubt their average height is that tall since the average height in the US is only 5’4″-5’5″

          • Zappa Frank

            1.8m is about 5-10 or 5-11, as i said i’m just talking about young males. Obviously if you include girls and older people the medium decreases quickly.
            I’m 5-10 and there are guys shorter tham me, but also many taller.
            what i wrote in chinese is “ban can fei”, that means half-dsabled. Obviously it goes only for males… however i’ve never been in northern china and i cannot confirm if they are really that tall…

          • Kate

            oh sorry, i thought you were talking about girls since you said that right after the part about girls height. I’ve been told that northern chinese are taller but I didn’t think they would be on average that tall (the younger ones). I guess i’ll see when I visit this summer

          • KamikaziPilot

            Every time I hear the word “fat-skinny” I laugh. I know what that means but it’s just hilarious. BTW who is that in your avatar? That’s not you is it?

          • Zappa Frank

            i juest can say that i’m in that picture… am i the choked or the choker?

          • KamikaziPilot

            If I had to guess, I’d say you’re the choker. Can you tell me if I’m right, haha?

          • Zappa Frank

            yes i guess it’s easy, no one would ever post a picture of himself as the chocked. it was a friendly choke during a dinner…

      • Chin_Key

        And they don’t get breast fed. Melamine isn’t that great for general health.

    • http://www.richardfordphotography.com/ Richard Ford

      Have you seen the boys from Nong Da? Have you seen the men in general in Xinjiang?

  • hailexiao

    Claiming land up north makes much more historical sense though; a lot of the Far Eastern Republic used to be Qing territory before the Russians took it though the Nerchinsk and Amur treaties.

  • FYIADragoon

    I would never visit Russia without a business related reason. That place is a disaster. Even with all of their economic development (which they’ve just dumped into Moscow, the other cities are decrepit), the development of their citizens makes the Chinese look like advanced lifeforms by comparison. Their crime rates make a shithole like Detroit look attractive.

  • FYIADragoon

    “1 death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.”

  • Kate

    I dont understand why this is even a story. Russia is a rough place and people get robbed and killed daily. Obviously not everywhere in the country but a good majority of it.

    • Cauffiel

      What arouses national pride more than your countrymen killed in a foreign country?

      • Jobjed

        When your countrymen are doing the killing and the killed are foreigners.

    • Guang Xiang

      I agree. And while we’re at it, they should stop reporting stories on people being killed in the Middle East. I mean, it’s so dangerous there.

      • Kate

        well aren’t we a ball of sarcasm? I never meant don’t report any deaths resulting from robbery but it’s unnecessary to make it out to seem like anything more just because it involves Chinese in another country.
        As for deaths in the middle east, that’s completely different because of the conflicts and war (civil war and between countries). the news coverage is typically of military and civilian casualties, I don’t remember the media covering a robbery in the middle east

        • Guang Xiang

          I’m just full of Christmas cheer working in the Middle of Nowhere, China.

          But I think I would like to know if a fellow American died in a foreign country from violent incidents.

          • Kate

            Christmas in China.. that must suck. Guess sarcasm is the best way to get by
            But as far as a new coverage about an American killed in a foreign country, I think you’re missing my point. First of all, if you’re still referring to death rates in the middle east, thats different because (like I said) it’s mostly coverage on the political riots, wars, etc. Second, if you’re just talking about American tourists being killed in some place like Europe, it’s still different than this because rarely do I hear anyone around me making a plain (but horrible) homicide more than it is. Meaning Americans don’t go around making it seem like our people were killed in a foreign country because that country hates us. and yes I realize people do bring politics into the mix kinda like with the Amanda Knox case but that’s more rare.
            The case above doesn’t really strike me as being necessarily racially motivated. it seems more like the thugs knew the people in the apt were asian businessmen and they carried lots of cash and had tons of valuables with them.
            Hopefully that makes my point clearer. I know my original post wasn’t worded the best and neither is this long ass comment but hey its almost 4 am in the states

          • Guang Xiang

            No, not referring to the middle east example because you made your point. Just saying if I heard of an American being murdered in Russia I would take note. However, you are correct that people shouldn’t interpret a single incident as an attack on their country.

            Enjoy your upcoming Christmas dinner >:( :)

          • Kate

            maybe i over complicated my comments lol your second to last sentence pretty much sums up what I was trying to say

            And thank you. I hope you can enjoy your Christmas in China :)

          • David

            I will say It is not what I am used to (and I have spent many Holidays abroad and away from home). There are little tid bits of Christmas around (all the girls working at my local super market are wearing Santa hats) but I still work tomorrow (Christmas) and so the few westerners here are having our party on Sat. Even the Koreans I work with are bummed because they are used to having Christmas off at home. I am having Christmas parties with my Korean students here tomorrow and we have been watching Christmas movies in class.

  • Jobjed

    Russians are merely embodying their climate; cold and unfriendly.

    • Zappa Frank

      like many Chinese, cold and unfriendly.
      I think really Chinese and Russians share a lot, that cynicism is similar, I guess is the result of the communism. the difference is that Russians don’t even try to hide it.. if you take them in the right way they are really warm, if you take them in the wrong way I think nothing is more scary..

      • Jobjed

        The “blame everything on Communism” joke is old, try a new one.

        • David

          Yes, because 70 years of Communism never affected anything. Try a new one.

          • Jobjed

            Communism was never implemented fully in any country, there’s always been a huge f*ck-up midway through implementation and then the administration gives up and instead settles for a dictatorship. *cough*Mao Zedong*cough* Let’s not blame an ideology that was never actually implemented and instead was used to give dictators the excuse to remain in power.

          • David

            This is true, but since it has happened many times it seems like a pretty predictable outcome. Perhaps after all the “human experiments” it should be clear that there is a huge difference between theory and reality. Latin America, the Caribbean, Europe, Asia and Africa. The only place it has not been tried is North America (unless you want to count Mexico and some countries in Central America). According to Marx it was a natural progression, unfortunately he was about as good at understanding people as he was an economist. I think it is an idea that has run its course. Just my opinion.

        • Zappa Frank

          If it happens read a book about Russians and Chinese before and during revolutions, you’ll see how much idealists they were, a lot more than us, ready to die for the revolution..and I’m talking about average people. Of course there were also many that we’re just pursuit their interests, but a huge number really believed in the revolution. Regardless if it was a real communism or not what happened than has been a huge delusion for both, so much that they turned from idealists to cynics

          • ScottLoar

            If it happens read a book about the colonists before and during the American Revolution, you’ll see how much idealists they were, a lot more than us, ready to die for the revolution… and I’m talking about average people. Of course there were also many that were just pursuing their own interests, but a huge number really believed in the revolution.

            The delusion that creates cynics comes from that majority which whines and moans, finds fault right and left yet does not vote, remains uninvolved in civic matters, and looks to screeching complaint as the sole recourse to reform.

          • Zappa Frank

            sincerely I don’t think that the American revolution and communists revolutions are comparable. in the end the American revolution was just to independence, ok democracy or whatever, but the communist revolutions is up to completely change the values of the society itself. Communism is somehow morally high, make a society with no differences.. we are all equal. And the disappointed to see that it ended up in even more corrupted and unequal society is huge. At least this is my impression.

          • ScottLoar

            “The communist revolutions is (sic) up to completely change the values of the society itself.” If so the revolutions were abject failures.

            Moreover, the Russian revolution was to eliminate a ruling hierarchy; the subsequent communist revolutions in China and Vietnam were as much intended to modernize the state as to create egalitarian societies (or bolshevik societies, i.e. societies led by an enlightened cadre).

          • Zappa Frank

            in fact till now all communist revolutions failed.
            don’t know about Vietnamese, but Chinese and Russians revolutions have a lot in common. Destroy the past to create a “new man” in a egalitarian society, the change from a farmland country to an industrial one, and so on..
            This is completely different from the American revolution, that did not change the values of the society itself…and in my opinion this is why such failure, after such a big emotion investment, is one reason why apparently Chinese and Russians are so cynic. As I said, it’s just my impression.

  • North-eastern

    “Weak physical builds”, I agree. But mostly it is because they are not taught by their parents, teachers or society to stand up for themselves and face the hurdle. They are taught to run, avoid the trouble as much as possible. It’s the courage that matters, which almost doesn’t exist.

    But, once again, what can you do when there is a gun pointing at you??

  • Zappa Frank

    but muslims are not a race, nor a political union, nor a country, nor a single culture… is just as saying that they saw some christians

  • Boris_Da_Bengal_Tiger

    Not all Central Asians are Muslim, most are though.

    Saying that, they do like to drink.

  • Zappa Frank

    i think this classification (endo-meso-exo morphs) is highly arguable. it reminds me that in gmy evryone claim to be hardgainer and to be endomorph because after 2 months they don’t look like ronnie coleman..

  • Kate

    yea that’s true, chinese typically prefer thin and lean for both male and female.

  • Zappa Frank

    sincerelly while i’m sure that this goes for females i’m not sure it goes as well for males, of the few i knew they all wanted to have big muscles, and even tried hard in gym…

  • Guang Xiang

    It’s ironic because Chinese people are xenophobic. It goes with hand in hand with Nationalism.

  • Jobjed

    Nope, China has already signed a border agreement with Russia and there are no ongoing sovereignty disputes between them. But I’m sure you’re too stupid to know that. The history is there for all to see, Russia took Qing territory in the 1800s and also facilitated the secession of Mongolia but the PRC has accepted reality and knows there’s no practical way to wrestle with the largest nuclear power in the world.

    Japan on the other hand, is a strip of land barely the size of your pinky. It is a country that can be forced to cough up all the territory that it stole after the 1895 Sino-Jap War. And since it is practical to reclaim territory from Japan, why give up this golden opportunity?

  • http://www.richardfordphotography.com/ Richard Ford

    In real estate they say, location, location, location. Now this is 90210: “Building 29 on Communist Youth League 40th Anniversary Avenue”

  • markus peg

    “china isn’t known to be xenophobic.”
    Someone may not be known to be a pedophile it doesn’t mean that person isn’t one.

    People who have been to China know their is a mixture of good and bad people, however, the amount of hate that is felt towards many other Asian countries can easily be felt by a big percentage of Chinese people. Example: their feelings towards Japan and Korea why is the hate due to history affecting the current innocent young generations? What about the Philippians many of the online Chinese comments think of them to be lower than dogs…

    I got 13 up votes and 2 down votes for my comment which shows the percentage of people on here agree with me. So i guess many Chinese are “thought of” as xenophobic.

    When the country is angry with Japan they should put news about Japan on the TV and the whole country will rally against Japanese products destroying and looting Japanese products and shops…

  • 二奶头发

    but isn’t russia’s south china’s north? and china’s east is russia’s east

    • takasar1

      Not really. Russia so huge that China’s north is more like Russia’s south east. I mean the Iran border to be more specific

  • 二奶头发

    like many chinese they went to russia to make money (that’s also the main reason why they goto africa). They should have known the risks.

  • 二奶头发

    and what color skin would that be? I’m guessing white because the black on black violence and black on white violence his much higher than the white on black violence and the white on white violence. as for the hispanics the media is slowly trying to group them into the white category. for example during the martin trial they were calling Zimmerman a white hispanic.

    • Rick in China

      Ok. I’m guessing the photo you choose is representative of the fatness within your head, also, right? It must be.

      Facts. Most homicide/violent crime in the US is INTRARACIAL, meaning for example somewhere in the 90%s of black homicides are committed by blacks, and somewhere in the 80%s of white homicides are committed by whites, just to give an example.

      You don’t know shit, go research, and don’t manipulate statistics to fit your expectation.

      • 二奶头发

        I have to laugh at your comments for two reasons

        1) resorting to insulting a person in a reply to make a point really shows your intelligence.

        2) your last comment was so funny because you said “don’t manipulate statistics to fit your expectation.” How do you know your stats which you state as facts are not manipulated as well. Again this really shows your intelligence.

        LOL You’re funny. I’ll have to keep an eye out for more of your comments I like good humour.

        • Rick in China

          Great reply. Love how you addressed the argument with such prose, I hardly know how to reply. Wait, here it is:

          I didn’t say you manipulated statistics, implying I meant that by “as well”, because you did not provide statistics, you just made ignorant blanket statements like “because the black on black violence and black on white violence his much higher than the white on black violence and the white on white violence” which is entirely true. I’d love for you to show some evidence on that of course, it’d be amusing to see you fumble around looking for a way to justify with more than just glenn beck style “this is just how it is” statements so far removed from fact they may as well be fairy tales, the kind used to scare children into xenophobia.

          “You’re funny”, not “your”. I suppose, technically speaking, *that* shows *your* intelligence. As retarded as the image implies, thanks for not disappointing.

  • David

    Absurd. You are most likely to be killed if your engaged in illegal activity (or having a fight with a relative, who is probably the same color as you). I hate to burst your bubble but there is no race war going on in the U.S..

  • David

    This is very true of the Chinese who go to my gym also. Almost none actually lift weights and the ones who do don’t do any kind of routine. Of course those who are professional athletes are different but what percent of the population is that? The same is true of the women, most of the women working out at my gym are Japanese and Korean (with a few westerners). The Chinese are at the juice bar. I find it very weird.

  • David

    I believe the number one non-natural cause of death in Russia is alcoholism and the symptoms that accompany it. So if your Russian your much more likely to drink yourself to death than get shot.

  • UserID01

    I used to want to go to Russia when I was a kid, maybe even up until my early teens. I was so in love with the history and the architecture and the landscape. But modern Russia? No, I don’t think I can go. I don’t think I’ll feel safe at all. Maybe if I went with a bunch of others in a giant tour group, but I would never venture alone in major cities in Russia the way I’ve been able to do in other major metropolitan cities like London, Tokyo, Paris, and Helsinki. I mean, Finland is also known for having its fair share of raucous vodka lovers, but never did I feel physically threatened just for being a foreigner.

    • Kilkenny

      Well, you’re just a pussy then.
      I think that Americans have some wrong notion of Russia based on Ivan Drago images and stuff. This country is less safer then China – true. But it is much much safer then the most of metropolitan cities in the US. Trust me. I’ve visited both.

  • 谢尔琪

    Of course, basic safety whenever abroad should be kept in mind anywhere, but in Russia even poor worker could be a victim. As a Ukrainian ( Russia, Ukraine, all pretty much the same ), I can say that Russians in general are xenophobic and racist, with few exceptions on individual level. So I worry a lot about my friends who study in Russia or any ex-USSR country. There’s just no way Russia ever changes from it’s totalitarian mindset. 真可惜那些人受伤了, 不过俄罗斯的社会就这样

  • mai lin

    Russia and Austrialia are the most racist countries against Asians. idk why chinese and other asians want to go there

    • Chin_Key

      Neither do i. So why don’t you all piss off back to china?

      • BlacksHumpsBlonds

        Wow a racist cumskin,

    • mr.wiener

      Would you care to substantiate any of that?

  • Rick in China

    You forget that it’s in the Chinese gov’ts best interest to encourage people to maintain this type of ignorant behavior, look at those *outside China* as the enemy, so they maintain this attitude of “fight back” against the outside (which of course is as impossible as convincing a local that drinking ice water at a meal isn’t going to fuck up your stomach) — because if they didn’t create these type of situations, they would point fingers at and fight back……against the local gov’t.

    • BigpimpingBalla

      hey you still living in china?

  • BigpimpingBalla

    i thought moscow is ”world city”

  • Chin_Key

    Russia is no place to live if you are either GAY, colored especially Blacks.

    Or chinese by the look of things.

  • Chin_Key

    Hhahaha, so you chinese thought it was all fun about killing uyghurs and raping their women? Careful when you go abroad, these uyghurs take revenge to the next level.

  • asianjunk

    Come to Panama, the richest country in Central America.
    Links below
    1. 5 Dominicans kidnapped and killed 5 panamenians of chinese descent. http://www.panama-guide.com/article.php/2011091711052220

    (There are chinese everywhere and in Panama most chinese own shops and small business. people have tried to kidnapped chinese for money and its been happening for a long time. One of my cousin was kidnapped for 2 days, he manged to escape. My very best friend was raped and robbed by taxi drivers, she was leaving the city to her first day job to another province, the taxi drivers they took all of her belongins, including her clothes in 2 suitcase, and when the dude finished raping her he said- I’m sorry, the devil got inside me, giving her only the sim card of the phone. Those taxi drivers were quite famous no long ago, I had opportuntiy to learn art by one colombian female teacher, she once got into a cab ang got robbed and beaten by the taxi driver and his 3 accomplices. and the list goes on….)

    2. 2 hindu children were killed mistakenly by panamenian police in a firing. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-10-30/surat/43526052_1_panama-city-navsari-police-firing

    (You know why did it happened? because police aren’t well trained in fucking panama. they lack experiences and most of them are uneducated and irreverent. and it didn’t only happened once nor twice….)

    3. Spanish millionaire robbed and killed http://www.panama-guide.com/article.php/20121214111242515

    oh well, what can I say.
    The list is large…. Panama is a beautiful land full of different types of foreigners, and great opportunities of investments.

  • Patf

    i bet more non-whites get killed in russia than whites get killed in china.

    • Wodowsan

      Perhaps because there are more non-whites in Russia than in China? Neil Heywood I believe was a non-Chinese in China when he was poisoned. It happens every where was the point.

      • Patf

        are there equivalents of private neo-nazi or skinhead groups in china, as they do in russia? no.
        kind of retarded/ironic, given how nazis historically considered slavs to be subhuman.

        • Wodowsan

          I assume you unaware of the “Anti-Japanese Protests” where people were dragged out of their cars and killed? Property was destroyed for being Japanese brands, it didn’t matter if it was owned by fellow Chinese? You do not have to shave your head andor have a swastika tattoo to be a fascists, you only have to believe in nationalist socialism.

          • Patf

            as a tourist/visitor, i would be more afraid of racists than nationalists. if you have a nigerian, korean, mexican, albanian visiting both russia and china, which place has the higher likelihood of them getting hurt?

        • hmunkey

          Of course not, because China is far more homogenous than Russia has ever been. Societies composed almost entirely of one ethnicity — where the majority of people have never once seen someone other than of their own race — tend to have far fewer racially motivated extremists. This should be obvious.

          As heterogenization begins, this changes.

          There’s also the fact that the Chinese government is extremely strict and efficient in enforcing laws (obviously not against the privileged though), oftentimes to the point of injustice. This has obvious benefits and drawbacks — in some cases innocent people are punished or even the guilty are unfairly treated, but at the same time incidences of crime are lower and people are far less likely to even entertain the notion of attacking someone.

          So Russia is less safe than China, but it’s a matter of debate whether that is a sign that Russian society is “worse” than Chinese society. Personally I’m leaning towards China being superior in this regard, but it depends heavily on your own political and personal beliefs.

  • Dr Sun

    Constantinople I believe was historically the border between east and west, but as we have a middle east now, I guess the west begins somewhere west of Egypt.

  • hmunkey

    Sorry but no. I’m not even white and I have to completely disagree. There is no significant racially motivated violence to speak of, and most criminals are not white (for a variety of reasons, poverty being the most obvious) as are most victims.

    When a black (or hispanic) person attacks/robs a white person, it is not because of their race. The same applies the other way around.

    The racial violence ended over a generation ago and nobody under the age of 40 (so in other words, nobody in the age group that comprises 95%+ of criminals) has had any experience with that sort of behavior as it is completely alien to them.

    The US is a lot of things and has a number of problems, but it’s probably the least racist country in the world by a significant margin — largely because it went through its period of racism decades ago.

  • hmunkey

    The state-run media outlets have to keep perpetrating the myth of persecution against the Chinese because it’s the most powerful thing keeping people in line behind the government/party, who are seen as their protectors.

    If there was no “other” threat, peoples’ attentions would quickly be turned toward the government and it’s vast abuses of power and unprecedented levels of corruption. It’s why every few years China triggers new border tensions with neighboring countries despite the fact that to any outsider, doing so serves no purpose to the Chinese government. Sure, it hurts their position geopolitically and causes other countries to trust them less and less, but internally it is a very good thing.

    You have to remember this is a country still run by the very organization that uner Mao, perpetrated the greatest mass murders in the entirety of human history — the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution. Yet by distracting the people over small numbers of Chinese killed by foreigners, by the British, or even the comparatively small (but still clearly horrific) number killed by the Japanese, they are able to divert attention from the 85 million killed by the Communist Party.

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