Shenyang Old Man Lets Person Who Hit & Knocked Him Down Go

In Shenyang, a young Chinese man riding an electric bike helps and elderly man up after accidentally running into and knocking him down in the snow.

From NetEase:

Shenyang Old Man Was Knocked Down in The Snow: I Have Health Insurance, You Go To Work

On December 2nd, the incident where a foreign young man knocking down a middle-aged woman occurring on a Beijing street triggered widespread attention and reflection in the public. In contrast, 17 days later in Shenyang, the same kind of collision left nothing but mutual understanding. On December 19th, Shenyang netizen “沈阳陈鸿博” posted up a heart-warming scene on the all-powerful Weibo: an old man after being knocked down by an electric bicycle said to the perpetrator: “Child, I’m fine, I have health insurance, you better hurry off to work.”

First Surprise

Electric bicycle in snow day gets into trouble, hits someone

“The elderly man’s leg must have been bruised. Standing up was quite difficult for him, and he was also limping”

Netizen “沈阳陈鸿博” told this reporter that he saw this scene while passing through Huanghe North Street near the Olympic New Town area. The time of the incident was 9:00am on the 19th. At the time, it was still snowing outside and the road was quite slippery. A young man riding an electric bike knocked over an elderly person.

“After the old man was knocked down, the young man riding the electric scooter immediately helped the fallen elderly man up from the snowy ground, on one hand quickly apologizing and on the other hand inquiring whether the old man felt any discomfort. Nearby a lady at a bus stop waiting for the bus also ran over expressing concern for the elderly person,” netizen “沈阳陈鸿博” says.

Netizen “沈阳陈鸿博” says, at the time, the elderly man’s leg must have been bruised. Standing up was quite difficult for him, and he was also limping. Subsequently, the man riding the electric scooter and the lady who was waiting for the bus helped the old man to the curb to sit for a while.

Second Surprise

The fallen elderly man let the offender go

“Forget it, let’s just be understanding of each other, it’s nothing serious, I won’t commit extortion”

What netizen “沈阳陈鸿博” felt was a bit unexpected was that after taking some time to recover, the old man who had been hit let the guy riding the electric scooter leave.

“I specifically asked the old man at the time why he let him go. The old man said, actually on snowy days, it’s difficult to brake, so forget it, let’s just be understanding of each other. I felt there was nothing serious, and besides, I have health insurance, so I won’t commit extortion.” netizen “沈阳陈鸿博” says.

Netizen “沈阳陈鸿博” says after having said that, the fallen old man left. Looking at the figure of him limping away, he suddenly felt incredibly moved, wanting to commend the Shenyang old man, and Shenyang people for being so awesome.

“I feel very fortunate to have been able to use my camera to capture this heart-warming scene. I hope that this group of photos can pass on positive energy, helping everyone understand that only mutual understanding is the basis for harmony,” netizen “沈阳陈鸿博” says.

A young man helps up a fallen old man in snowy Shenyang.

The young man helping up the elderly man he had knocked over.

The elderly man limps up, holding his leg. A woman waiting at a nearby bus stop came over.

The elderly man examining his leg.

The old man holding his leg as he limps away leaving the scene.

Comments from NetEase:

网易内蒙古手机网友 ip:117.136.*.*:

Now this is a true old man [worthy of respect].

毛润之留给中国人第三土气 [网易上海市杨浦区网友]:

Positive energy news, those in support of this old man, ding this up.

温小宝说有胶袋 [网易中国手机网友]:

Everyone should be like this with each other! If you’re responsible, don’t shirk it! If there’s nothing serious, don’t extort people.

网易天津市手机网友 ip:218.69.*.*:

If [everyone] was like this, how much better things would be.

网易江苏省苏州市网友 ip:61.177.*.*:

Good people like this are rarer than giant pandas.

网易北京市网友 [jinming214]:

In the time when Confucius’ lived, the Lu [state] that Confucius was in announced that if someone sees people from Lu fallen into slavery in other countries, they can first ransom/buy them back, and then go to the government to apply for reimbursement. Once, a student of Confucius ransomed a slave from another country, but he did not go to the government to apply for reimbursement. For a moment, people competed to praise this student for his high morality, but Confucius criticized him saying: You doing this hinders even more Lu slaves from getting freedom, because if others see Lu slaves in other countries, and if he comes back applying for a reimbursement after ransoming them, there will be people ridiculing and denouncing his morality as low; whereas if he doesn’t apply for reimbursement, he would loose a sum of money, and because of this, he can only pretend he didn’t see and thus not go ransom this slave.
The old man in this piece of news either kidnapped morality, or was kidnapped by morality.

孤独的赌注0 [网易北京市网友]: (responding to above)

According to your logic, no matter what you do, it would be wrong, right? Fuck.

网易北京市网友 [jinming214]: (responding to above)

If you’re injured, then you have to let the person pay compensation. If you’re not injured, don’t try to get money from people. It’s as simple as that.
If you’re hit and injured, does not having that person compensate you mean you are morally lofty? This is called kidnapping morality.
To admonish everyone to not extort people by citing this kind of situation where someone is hit and injured but doesn’t demand compensation, this is called going too far in the other direction.
You said it right: not using the normal way of handling things is always wrong.

网易内蒙古手机网友(117.136.*.*): (responding to above)

Bickering, arguing for the sake of argument.

网易北京市网友 [jinming214]: (responding to above)

It’s not called bickering, it’s called earnest.
The news should not use [portray] these “abnormal” things as virtue.
Think about it. In the future when the old man gets hit and has someone compensate him for it, he’ll be accused of “extorting people”. Just how terrible that would be.

网易山东省潍坊市手机网友 [吃个J8蛋炒饭:

Stop being deceptive, this isn’t within the reimbursement scope of health insurance.

网易湖北省武汉市手机网友(119.97.*.*): (responding to above)

Depends on how the hospital handles it. The main point is that the old man [said he has health insurance because he] simply wanted to let the young guy not worry.

网易山东省滨州市手机网友 ip:222.134.*.*:

Maybe in this day and age, it is people like this that are needed…

网易山东省青岛市网友 ip:221.215.*.*:

What should be compensated should be compensated. He can let the young man go to work first, but if he was hit and injured, there should still be compensation paid. Principles cannot become flexible, much less become indulgences [allowing people to get away with things they should be responsible for].

jwtianbin [网易美国手机网友]:

Society should have this kind of positive energy. If it [injury] is not very serious, being understanding of each other is quite good. In the United States, Hong Kong, when people run into someone else, or someone else runs into you, [they] all take the initiative to immediately say sorry. This is quite good. Everyone feels better in their hearts, and there are not that many conflicts.

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  • vincent

    A news story about a decent guy and the reporter doesn’t take proper pictures of his face so we can appreciate his kind heart. I guess if he made a huge scene then his face would be plastered all over the interwebs.

    • Free Man

      Decent people don’t need their pictures published, Also, I think his family and friends would make fun of him after finding out because he didn’t take this opportunity to make some cash. So maybe it’s better for him.

  • Zappa Frank

    must be the christmas spirit..

  • Ruaraidh

    It’s depressing that this is newsworthy.

    • lonetrey / Dan

      We all wish that it wasn’t newsworthy and that everyone would just get along, but I’ll take what we can get. :/

      Gotta count the good news, even when it’s this kind of good news

    • Archie

      Even if the guy was actually injured, it would still be ridiculous.

    • Markoff

      Next time post about waiting patiently in queue and thanking for something.

      • North-eastern

        It’s simple. It’s about something that happens regularly and gets reported regularly, too. So, something totally opposite, is even a bigger story.

    • Guang Xiang

      It’s newsworthy because China has a culture of extorting over minor incidents.

      News sell to whatever appeal to the masses and I’m sure the netizens can all relate to this article.

      But I suppose it doesn’t fit the trend that everything in Chinasmack has to be about disparaging on China.

      • North-eastern

        Totally agree with the last part.

    • North-eastern

      It could get even better.
      Old man: “ahh.. you hit me”.
      Young man: “oh, lao ye, I’m so sorry”.
      Old man: “It’s ok, I have insurance. But you need to learn to ride properly on slippery roads. Here, let me give you a ride to work on your bike”.

      Netizens: aaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww……

    • filabusta

      This just in: Man walks two feet to trash can to dispose of empty cup. Netizens reactions.

  • Suk_Mi

    He’ll probably blame someone else anyway. .

  • nqk123

    it’s sad, but mistrust and paranoid are all time high everywhere. these type of news help rebuild trust again

  • Boris_Da_Bengal_Tiger

    网易北京市网友 [jinming214] replies to the thread are the reason why people extort money here. If I am bruised, and bruising happens in many activities (like playing football or rugby, running and falling down, etc.) am I suppose to ask for compensation? It would be practically impossible to do any kind of sport or activity if you have to pay compensation every time some one gets hurt or thinks they get hurt.

    This is news because even for minor things, people ask for money first and act like they were in a bomb blast to extract it.

  • Guang Xiang

    Chinese people find it surprising because old people usually extort money. If it’s surprising to you, then you must be new to China.

  • Cauffiel

    I lived in Shenyang. They hate the Japanese a lot more than average there!

    • ex-expat

      You ever go to Uncle Sam’s?

      • North-eastern

        Always.

      • North-eastern

        Always.

        • ex-expat

          When were you there? I was only in Shenyang for a few weeks, but went to Uncle Sam’s like every day. It was around June/July last year. I thought the city itself was pretty crappy but I had a really good time because everyone at the bar was really friendly.

      • Cauffiel

        Uncle Sam’s blows. Much better places to go in Shenyang, but for some reason I can’t recall the names now….. there’s a great Irish bar, maybe called O’Reilly’s, and a euro-bar a few blocks from that that opened a few months before I left.

        Uncle Sam is a coke head and you’ll be better off staying away from him.

        I lived there September 2011-August 2012

  • Zappa Frank

    because in no other country people refuse to help someone fearing to be sue, and in no other country an old man that does not sue would be a popular topic.

    • Dr Sun

      wrong Frank, they passed the “good Samaritan laws in the USA because first responders (be they civilian or EMS/fire rescue/nurses) were getting sued regularly.

      • Zappa Frank

        Any data to support your statement or do we have to believe your words? And what about the rest of the world? You know it’s not just USA

        • Dr Sun

          you can check the statutes yourself.

          • Zappa Frank

            usually is the one who does and adfirmation that has to present evidences. and once again, even in case is true, it’s just for US, but there is a world outside..

          • Dr Sun

            incorrect frank, you are the one that presented a position that no other country has or does, but you failed to research your own assumption, which led you look shallow, uneducated and a little silly. I responded and told you the truth, you cannot rebut it, so you look to asking for data that you already must know is there.. Go do some research on your own and reply…apologize to the community for your false statements.

          • Zappa Frank

            Maybe you are not aware about the way discussions should be, but if you declare that “god samaritan law” was done because before there was something like in china, with people that sue helpers, you have to prove it. Else you are the silly here, and even uneducated. Obviously you cannot prove it, because it is a bullshit, so the reply is that i have to find it on my own, that is impossible, but in case would be my fault because i am not able to find it. You did not say any truth, you simply put up some smoke with the silly hope that someone will fall in.
            If i say “no other country”, it’s not that i have to show you the law and habits of all world’s countries..the mine is a gernarl adfirmation, another kind, not specific like yours.
            You have but just to do one thing to show that you are right, find a country where people do no help because are afraid to be sued. But you are even to lazy for that.

          • Kai

            Unfortunately, you’re in the wrong here, Zappa.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

            Almost by definition, Good Samaritan laws came into being to protect people from prosecution precisely because people were being sued when helping and thus began fearing to help.

            We can have a huge discussion about particulars involving common vs. civil law and the differences between protection from lawsuits vs. legal obligations to act but the simple fact here is that you said no other country has people who refuse to act fearing being sued, and Dr. Sun provided you probably the best example country where the social issue has spawned legislation and laws. Yes, “no other country” is general, but Dr. Sun’s example of one country, the US, is sufficient to disprove your general assertion.

            What you said that was possibly more poignant is that in no other country would a person not suing be a popular topic. However, that’s unfair. Think about why this was popular. It is popular because of the news context. Ordinarily, a person not demanding compensation for a minor accident goes unreported, precisely because it is taken for granted. So why was it reported here? Precisely because there has been a recent spate of news involving people either scamming people with false injury claims or unfairly demanding compensation for minor accidents.

            This is a reassurance story, a story that is carried by the media to reassure people that the horrible things they’ve been seeing may be happening more often than people like but it isn’t like every member of society has gone to shit. Positive news becomes popular and not taken for granted when it is juxtaposed against a trend of negative news.

          • Zappa Frank

            it seems to me a bit different. THe law of good samaritan is to prevent to be sued for wrong doing in help.. what happen in china is that people sue other people not for wrongdoing, but accusing to be the responsible of the bad situation in first stance. The old hag don’t sue people for a wrong help that may result in an damage, but sue people accusing them to be the reason why she felt down, she say they pushed her down.. and about this the good samaritan law doesn’t help, no law helps. What about the little girl of 2 or 3 years ago hit by trucks with al bystanders just looking and doing nothing?was not a symphton of something sick?

          • Kai

            You said:

            because in no other country people refuse to help someone fearing to be sued,

            People in China often refuse to help because they’re afraid of being sued (for compensation). Good Samaritan laws were legislated to protect people from being sued when they help, therefore removing a large amount of fear of being sued when one chooses to help.

            As a rebuttal to your statement, Dr. Sun’s reference to Good Samaritan laws is correct.

            I understand the distinction you are now trying to make but you are retroactively changing your original assertion. Do you recognize that? You said A and Dr. Sun said B to disprove A, and now you are saying you said C.

            If you acknwoldge that you said A and what Dr Sun said proves you wrong, and now change your argument to C, then Dr Sun can respond to C. So is “C”: “No other country has people who wrongly accuse people for causing accidents?”

          • Zappa Frank

            sincerelly no i don’t think i’m changing anything, but you are right in the end is the same, be sued for worng doing or something else still lead people to do not help. However since USA actually have that good samaritan law, good to know, so we can say that USA are not NOW a country where people refuse to help because afraid to be sued right? because are protected by that law for help wrongdoing and because people will not pretend that they are the cause of an accident… so once again, where is a now country where people refuse to help fearing to be sued?

          • Kai

            Good Samaritan laws vary by jurisdictionn in the US so the protection is better in some places than others.

            I believe people understood your point as saying people in China are somehow unique and special in their refusal to help because they fear being sued. Dr. Sun’s point was to show that people in China are not unique and special in this regard as demonstrated by the fact that laws had to be enacted in other countries to address the same sort of social problem.

            I think you can understand Dr. Sun’s point that you were being too confident in exoticizing China.

          • Zappa Frank

            i am sorry to waste your time, you are always really kind even when people in the dialogue should not deserve it, like me this time, and i guess i’m too verbose. Pointing out that the difference is due to the law more than to the people i could reply that the law usually change in accordance with people feelings… when people think something is wrong soon come out a law to fix it. However i’ve read in the article you linked (or another one connected to that one) that even in china lawyers are working on a good samaritan law.

          • Kai

            Nah, dude, you don’t need to apologize to me. You didn’t waste my time. You’re also not too verbose. I’m verbose! :)

            It’s clear that your first language isn’t English so sometimes it is hard to understand exactly what you mean, or if what you wrote accurately represents what you are thinking. I try to remember this and try my best to understand what you are trying to express.

          • Dr Sun

            sorry frank, as said you made the initial argument on incorrect information and your own personal prejudicial rhetoric against Chinese culture, its not my duty to prove you wrong a simple google search does that.

          • Zappa Frank

            so your duty in this conversation is? Believe whatever you want, i don’t care, however i’ve never heard there is a country where people are afraid to help others.. As said it’s easy to say “go and google it”, because if i do not find it become my fault. Ok, my fault, i did not find any evidence that there is a country where people are afraid to help because they are often sued, nor i ever seen a vide where a child is hit by several trucks with people nearby don’t doing anything to help.. but as i said it may be that i’m just anable to google it, if you think to be right help me, just a link.

          • Kai

            however i’ve never heard there is a country where people are afraid to help others.. As said it’s easy to say “go and google it”, because if i do not find it become my fault.

            Your argument here would only work if you said there were no other countries and Dr Sun said there are, DID NOT give you any examples, and just told you to go do a search. Instead, Dr Sun gave you a specific example (the US), which gives you enough information to do a quick search and verify.

            To other people like Dr Sun and I, this is fairly common knowledge. It isn’t to you and, while that is surprising to us, there’s nothing fundamentally wrong with you genuinely not knowing about Good Samaritan laws or the phenomenon of people being sued when they were only trying to help. If you insist you genuinely didn’t know, that’s fine. However, you’ve been given all the information you really need to confirm our disagreement and instead of acknowledging that your belief was mistaken, you’ve done two things:

            1. Dismiss the US and demand examples of other countries despite your original mistaken assertion saying “no other countries”. The US is a major country and population, and the largest, most obvious example of this phenomenon. When you refuse to accept it as invalidating your assertion, you come across as being stubborn.

            2. You argue that Dr. Sun owes you more evidence despite knowing it is very easy for you to use “US” and “Good Samaritan laws” to confirm what Dr Sun is saying as true and thus a valid rebuttal to your original assertion.

            I don’t believe if you entered those two terms into any major search engine that you would not be able to find evidence. You’d be begging people to think you didn’t actually try or you’re being dishonest because you don’t want to acknowledge that what you said is actually inaccurate.

            Bringing up the Yue Yue incident is irrelevant to whether or not what Dr. Sun said is true and whether or not what you said is accurate. I think you’re a mature enough and intelligent enough man to acknowledge that you said something that Dr. Sun disagreed with and Dr. Sun did in fact provide enough specific information to prove your statement wrong. This really isn’t worth being stubborn about.

            I’ve given you a link that already links to this, but here’s another one:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

            The Yue Yue incident is partially explained by this well-known, well-studied, well-documented sociological phenomenon.

  • Guang Xiang

    Every country has good people and bad people, sure, but that doesn’t mean you can just dismiss this one fact: that extorting through minor incidents is common enough in China that a culture of not helping others has developed.

    Rape culture in India is so prevalent but saying “every country has rape” doesn’t exactly exempt it.

    I understand you might be a Chinese who feels like such comment doesn’t give ‘face’ for China. Puh-leese, I’m Chinese and I don’t blind myself into thinking there are no societal problems in China.

  • North-eastern

    It is surprising. Because it doesn’t surprise Chinese people when someone wrongly tries to get compensation from you. But if that someone doesn’t, that sure is surprising.

  • B*tches, Leave

    I love TV’s “What Would You Do” – check it out, brings tears to my eyes every time!

  • BigBaddWolf

    Staged by the CCP

  • Cauffiel

    Zhi dao

  • YourSupremeCommander

    Who the hell would want to live in a place where it is frozen 10 months out of the year? Give me the Bahamas any time!

  • Ryo Saeba

    Sort of related and unrelated: One time, me and my wife rode those cheap electric scooters for a short trip to the subway station. On the way there, a bus was stopped on the side letting passengers on and off. There was traffic on the left of the bus but for some reason, the driver couldn’t wait a few seconds and decides to go between the curb and the bus! A young girl (early 20’s) stepped out off the bus right in front of us and POW, all 4 of us are on the ground. The scooter driver ask if the girl was ok and if she wanted to go to the hospital. She probably have bruises but she declined and said just needed a minute. Me and my wife was ok because I pretty much fell on the driver and she fell on me. I scraped my hand a little but that’s about it. The guy’s bike on the other had some broken plastic and a twisted front wheel. We all left peacefully.

    Another time, while driving, I lightly bumped into a guy in front of me. There was no visible damage and I apologize to the guy and he said it’s ok and we both left.

    This is in GZ by the way. I do think there are more nice people then scandalous people over all. But of course, the nice stuff hardly ever makes the news while the bad stuff is always over blown.

  • Omar Reza

    Just a guy passing through

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