Ship Hits Bridge and Sinks, Local Residents Panic Buy Water

The shelves for drinking water were empty.

From NetEase:

Sea Vessel Hits Nanjing Yangtze River Bridge & Sinks, Causes Yinzheng City Residents to Panic Buy Water

On the afternoon of May 12, panic-buying of drinking water broke out amongst city residents in Yizheng City of Jiangsu province. As it is understood, the reason is because early that morning, a seacraft carrying 12,500 tons of limestone had sunk after brushing against one of the pillars of the Nanjing Yangtze River Bridge. City residents downstream worried that the water quality would be contaminated scrambled to supermarkets to buy potable water. Limestone actually doesn’t dissolve in water, and thus didn’t cause any large-scale contamination.

[Above] May 12, Jiangsu Yizheng, a supermarket sold out of drinking water.

A city resident is calling the relevant department and asking why the drinking water has been sold out.

A city resident calling the relevant government department asking why drinking water is sold out.

A city resident is snapping up drinking water.

A city resident buying up drinking water.

The pier on which the seacraft had scratched itself.

The scene where the seacraft had sunk.

The scene where the seacraft had sunk.

The scene where the seacraft had sunk.

According to a notice issued by the Nanjing Marine Safety Agency, on May 12 at about 4:20 am, after a sea vessel brushed itself against a Nanjing Yangtze River Bridge pillar between the 6th and 7th spans, it sunk in the shallows of the northern shore (the islet head of Bagua Islet) 3.5 kilometers downstream of the bridge. All 18 crew members on board were rescued, and the bridge is for the time being unaffected. Photos are of the area where the shipwreck [and the pillar it collided with].

Comments from NetEase:

网易北京市网友 ip:118.186.*.*:

The bridge sure is tough, and sure enough it’s an old bridge. Let today’s bridge-building SBs take a look, aren’t you all ashamed??

和谐协会会长 [网易广东省珠海市网友]:

There is a group of people, who don’t have high salaries but have no small amount of savings, who don’t understand foreign languages but are always going abroad, who don’t touch their wives but are constantly getting laid, who don’t go to work often but attend a lot of dinner parties, who say nothing of significance but get a lot of applause, who have lousy [mahjong] tiles but win a lot of money [a method of bribery in China is to purposefully lose money to officials while playing mahjong], who are unfair in the exercise of their duties but rake a lot of profit, who have many wives and children emigrated abroad, who have many lovers and mistresses, who don’t work much but are given many accomplishments, who don’t have much ability but have many titles, and when they see a situation turning sour, they turn tail and run…

futingke [网易山东省潍坊市网友]:

I remember during the Japanese earthquake, there were people in our country panic buying salt, and now it’s water. Their characters are just like this.

上海13哥 [网易上海市徐汇区网友]: (responding to above)

Chinese people will rush to loot and panic buy things for no reason, their characters are too lousy, and their slave natures too serious, they deserve to be enslaved!

网易福建省龙岩市网友 ip:218.6.*.*: (responding to futingke)

Ever since there has been TG [a critical nickname Chinese netizens have for the Communist Party, in English it means Communist Bandits], whenever something like this happens that can be covered up, it is covered up. After so many years, the ordinary common people have become paranoid due to their lies, so they can only follow the crowd, and whatever other people are doing, they do the same. At least this way, they won’t get the worst of it or minimize their losses. Therefore, the root cause of this phenomenon doesn’t lie with the ordinary common people. Where does the root cause lie? Actually, this is something everybody already knows…

内阁总理大臣李鸿章 [网易山东省济南市网友]: (responding to futingke)

One has to look out for oneself.
We’ve all been jaded by “national security” and “denying rumours”.

Comments from QQ:

腾讯网友 J.:

Was the water we used to drink any safer? I even wonder if I’ve eaten any safe food ever since my family stopped growing crops for ourselves! I strongly demand that those who endanger society with food be severely punished with the death penalty, or fine them into bankruptcy, never to be allowed to manufacture processed foods ever again! Everybody, follow me, there’s not much time!

腾讯濮阳市网友 人生如戏:

City residents have all been institutionalized by the safety accidents of recent years! And speaking of the quality of the Nanjing Yangtze River Bridge, from this we can see it’s not bad! The old generation of architects and builders were good! Mao Yisheng! Look at the bridges today, collapsing from trucks weighing just a few dozen tons, blowing up just from trucks carrying fireworks…Technology has advanced, but why has [construction] quality gone backwards? Our compatriots all know why!

腾讯沈阳市网友 倾听:

Ha ha, scrambling to buy woad during SARS, scrambling to buy salt after the Japanese Earthquake, scrambling to buy candles during the end of the world [2012], and now scrambling to buy water after a ship hits a bridge. What’s next? Let’s wait and see…

腾讯上海市网友 桃子:

The tragedy of our countrymen! If it were a time of turmoil, they would be the typical group most easily incited and instigated against each other!

腾讯西安市网友 123239617:

Behind the panic-buying, the selfish and narrow-minded side of the Chinese people is revealed. This is a product of cultural attributes as well as a huge limit in judgement. Amongst many factors, our country’s people have developed a “paranoia” due to the government’s failures to act and dereliction of duty. It’s a tragedy of the people as well as a tragedy of the government!

腾讯网友 1908706916:

Chinese people, Chinese people, when will you wake up?! When [Japan] had a tsunami, your bought salt. When the price of gold dropped a bit, you swept the world buying gold. A small ship accidentally hits a bridge and now you’re snapping up bottled water. Are you afraid you won’t have water to drink in our mainland China??

腾讯网友 小丑鱼:

If we are not rushing to buy salt, we’re rushing to buy water, can we be a little more rational?!

腾讯网友 我是谁:

Poisonous milk powder, rat meat, cucumbers sprayed with contraceptives so they’re exceptionally straight, hens have fed with Sudan Red so their egg yolks are also red and more likely to lay eggs with double yolks, oh, and also poisonous ginger, rice, vegetables, fruits, air, and water. We are surrounded, can’t even hide/avoid if we wanted to, calling for back-up… Why hasn’t back-up arrived? Oh… they are busy fighting with their neighbors.

腾讯福建省网友 小朱朱:

Why do Chinese people “think wind means rain” [always assume the worst?]

腾讯上海市网友 呆呆是monster:

It’s just like last time when the Japanese earthquake caused nuclear radiation leakage, everyone all worried that the sea water was contaminated, that there wouldn’t be any salt any more, rushing to go buy salt. Do you people have any education at all? Any knowledge at all?

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  • Bobby

    Sofa

    • mr.wiener

      You are a baked bean in a bamboo boat :)

  • MrT

    and the problem is what?

    • Gauis

      The problem is the overwhelming sense of absolute helplessness with the certainty of corrupt officials and media. No one believes that officials are enforcing food or water safety laws or that a threat will be reported before it is too late to actually try to do something to protect yourself or your family. No, you will never know of the vast majority of pollution or poisoning incidents but if you somehow do become aware of some possible incident, your only chance for life is to listen to rumors and beat your neighbor to ‘safety’.

      • MrT

        and the problem is what?

        So they bought lots of water “just incase” they need it.

        Just like they bought lots of salt when those out of date AMERICAN Nuclear reactors went pair shape in Japan , because JAPANESE corrupt officials give the go ahead to keep using the reactors well past there sell by date.

        Always the double standards here to suit.

        • Gauis

          Yup, You got it now. They had to buy salt because they knew they could not trust their own officials or the media to tell them the truth. They had to buy some more water that was bottled prior to the current accident. They have to try to do something “just in case” it might be of some benefit. In a small village near my city, hundreds of pets and pigs died overnight. The officials immediately announced that the air
          and water was perfectly fine without offering any possible reason for the catastrophe. Everyone in China exists in a state of helplessness with respect to issues like food quality and safety. They know they are on their own and in that setting, the guy next door or the mob may know something the government has not admitted yet.

          • ScottLoar

            Well said.

          • MrT

            I drink tap water daily.

          • donscarletti

            Do they have to pay you more than RMB¥0.5 for posting in English?

          • MrT

            3rmb now days. tut tut.

          • gauis

            It shows.

          • MrT

            it does, i feel so great!

  • They’re worried about the water being contaminated?
    Do they think it’s not already incredibly polluted?

    • BiggJ

      I was thinking the same thing. lol Like the water was just magically safe before.

      • James

        lol first thing I thought of seeing the title was that the ship must’ve been bringing water bottles. don’t worry nanjing, you can have concord, ma’s share. the moonbats made them illegal there

  • Kenny

    Even Nongfu spring water sold out, hahha

  • AlexSt

    So apparently before this they weren’t drinking from bottles but instead went directly to the riverside.

  • BiggJ

    THEY SPILLED LIMESTONE IN HERE TODAY!!!! Well, better get these dead fish out before the lime touches it. lol

    • linette lee

      hahaha….lol.

      • Pickle

        Ooo… Like that cute face shot….geez, won’t this comment look stupid when you change the picture again.

        • mr.wiener

          Manners maketh the man. Don’t be so sour.

          • Pickle

            Manners? I’m complimenting her. And what do you know, she did change it and it’s so cute too. Can’t help it. I have a thing for attractive Asian women.

          • mr.wiener

            My bad, I made an ass out of U and me.

          • Pickle

            Nope. I was already an ass. But you’re still a wiener ; )

            Like the warrior in your picture, go conquer some beauties!

          • You misspelled “booties”

          • Pickle

            I like your thinking!
            I told this to KMF but since you seem like someone interested too check this out===> google this
            bubble booty Japanese daily motion
            You will see one of the most tastiest beautiful things in existence.

          • carmouflagger

            :)

          • James

            pickle’s make the sandwich plate, try to be more delicate

        • Welp, she changed it again. Although, I do certainly like milk tea, too.

          • Pickle

            That’s what that is?! It looks something different. Looking at it reminded me of yogurt.

          • Pickle

            Btw, I glimpsed your site. The pictures are amazing.

          • Thanks! I really appreciate that!

          • Mighty

            Dude! The pix are awesome! Did you do any post processing? I shoot in RAW and do a lot of tweaking. My current love is HDR.

            *Followed you

          • Thanks man! I used Lightroom on these. Some more than others. Be aware of anyone who claims they don’t use post-processing on their photos. They’re either liars or have bad photos haha

            Yeah shooting in RAW is the only way to go. I use an old T2i and this one Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 lens I have. It’s my favorite but needs to be replaced. I really want to get a 5D MkII or MkIII, but it will be a little while before I can throw down two or three grand on a camera. The one I have now works fine anyway.

            I tried HDR for a little while but never really got into it. My HDR photos always looked like carefully arranged cat vomit. However I do need to practice what I call “HDR lite”: sky swapping.

          • linette lee

            I looked at the photos you took. They are beautiful. You like nature. Is that you on the top of the webpage? you have an adventurous life. :)

          • Yep, that’s me.
            There’s a link to add me on Facebook there, where I am less cat-like.

          • linette lee

            You are cute in the photo. You look like you like to go hiking. I love hiking in the woods too. :)

          • This was at the Grand Canyon, but yeah I much prefer the woods (hence my studies and work all focusing on the woods haha)

          • Mighty

            Yeah, some photos are just too surrealistic, which I like. I like the mystic look of landscapes. So post-processing is all a part of the artwork. I just might buy ‘Taiping Path’ series and frame it. :D ‘Shinto Shrine’ is great too. ‘Alishan Forest’is another.

            I’m a Nikon man. I’m still using the D90 with some Nikkor and Sigma lenses. I’m waiting to get the D7100 but still waiting for the price to come down a bit.

            Is “HDR lite” free? I tried to google it and found SNS-HDR Lite. Is that the same one?

          • Mighty

            Thanks for the heads up!

          • linette lee

            yeah, it’s milk tea with tapioca. We call it bubble tea. You should try it. It’s good. :)

          • Oh, trust me, I’m a huge bubble tea/milk tea fan. I drank it pretty often in China, but when I was in Taiwan…at least once a day, often more haha. I really miss it.

          • linette lee

            You guys have starbucks in USA.

            In HK we have Gongchai. We drink tea with milk with different flavors.
            http://www.gong-cha.com/en/location.php?cat_id=2

            In taiwan they have chatime.
            http://www.ichatime.com/webe/html/products/index.php

    • linette lee

      THEY SPILLED LIMESTONE IN HERE TODAY!!!! Well, better get these other factory discharges out before the lime touches it. We don’t want chemical explosion. lol

      http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/images/stories/large/2011/11/20/103228017-21.jpg

      • No spilling (that we can prove of), but last year the east coast of China was inundated with green algae; it may just happen that we’ll get to see more coastal pics.

        (it was due to spilling of some sort)

    • Warlock

      That picture is moving, yet sad. National geographic magazine reminiscent.

  • ScottLoar

    A news clip was shown on local Shanghai tv this morning, 14 May, about the panic buying in Nanjing complete with people overloading shopping carts with bottled water and, yes, even Nongfu was sold out. One supermarket manager estimated consumers bought 20 times more bottled water than usual.

    • Guang Xiang

      i need clarification, is there something wrong with Nongfu?

      • ScottLoar

        Nongfu has been under suspicion in the Chinese news media as being substandard. You can easily look up this topic and follow the public comments – in Chinese.

  • BiggJ

    I don’t even think limestone is even that bad for you. I would be more worried about the other shit in that river then limestone.

    • James

      iirc a limestone base is the reason ireland has decent farmland

      • James

        I’ll also add, no it’s not as far as limestone goes,.other types of lime yes can be

    • 五毛Partay!

      All that limestone kinda purifies the water, getting rid of that icky clean taste Chinese people hate. Hopefully, they can get those factories working overtime to make up for it.

  • Beijinger

    So not only are Asians bad at driving, they are also bad at sailing boats?

    Fucking worthless.

    • James

      oh geez don’t even start

    • Of course foreigners are good at sailing; how else would they have carted off the unique Chinese treasures back home?

      FedEx does not accept giant bronze animal heads.

      • haha

      • mr.wiener

        …anymore.

      • the ace of books

        I had to look it up. For the curious: here’s how to ship animal heads. via FedEx: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/DCH-0676_Rabies_Instructions_74092_7.pdf

        • Thanks for the link. It was on a “very special episode of chinaS” that I learned that:
          “If a specimen, such as a horse or cow head, is too large for the one gallon plastic bucket provided, two alternatives may be considered; 1) a veterinarian may remove the brain (do not use any preservative on the brain tissue) or 2) a larger container and bag may be used (3.5 gallon plastic bucket and larger bags are available from MDCH by special request).”

          • the ace of books

            Ask ye, and the internet shall provide.

  • Jeff

    SALT! SALT! SALT! Must buy salt also…

    • 1234worldoftank

      Garlic too.

      • carmouflagger

        & soy sauce.

        • Jimney Cricket

          Tofu…. quick buy the tofu… else we will perish…or was it rice? Hell just buy everything…. quick buy all the Iphones as well

    • Better be potassium iodized salt.

  • BiggJ

    Chinese doctors say you can counteract the limestone by sucking the blood out deer antlers…but only after eating deer cock fried with turtle semen while drinking the tears of clown….but you can avoid doing all this if you can get one drop of Mr. T’s head sweat from the left side of his mohawk……just one drop will cure anything.”I pity the fool who drink water with limestone in it!”

    • James

      nova scotia must be primarily granite, you ever dealt w limestone?

      • BiggJ

        I don’t know much about it, I know my grandparents have some in their well water. They had it tested because the water was cloudy. They just said it was lime and not really nothing to worry about. They said it was not harmful to drink. And they have been drinking it for 60+ years still going strong. I know it’s good for growing crops. That’s about all I know.

        • James

          limestone’s fine. I’m from further south & we’re full of granite.mostly too. I worked masonry & limestone is a huge item I used to cut it w a wet saw & shape it w a chisel. generally from indiana iirc. I probably breathed more than air sometimes & everything’s seems o….. what was I talking about?

      • Or maybe you’re just taking it for granite?

        • James

          mebbe, but more of an educated guess

          got no idea about lonestar geology, are you east or west?

        • mr.wiener

          He meant what he said, what he sediment.

          • Nah, he must be off his rocker and losing his marble.

            FAKE EDIT: something something billy about a sofa

  • ophiolater

    This country is full of idiots and cowards.

    • mr.wiener

      Knee-jerk rectionaries certainly , but if history has taught the Chinese anything it is find out which way the crowd is running and move with them.

      • A game of Lemmings.

        • where the only special unit available is the “blocker”

        • Les Battersby

          all following each other over the cliff edge?

    • Exman

      As are all countries, no matter how morally upright they seem, they turn out to be hypocritical bastards too.

  • Alphy

    It’s funny to see how people comment on the bridge’s structure integrity as if they expect the newly erected bridges would collapse from such a bump.

    Also, aren’t lime used for water treatment? Why are they so afraid of limestone in the water? They kinda came from water to begin with… Limestone are sedimentary rock from marine life. It’s found all over, I don’t think you have to worry about it unless the river is acidic…

    • Justice

      This is not good news

    • The Enlightened One

      Yes, you are right. I learned all about it when I was like 10. I guess some countries have REALLY shitty science classes.

    • KaiXuan

      In the US, Limestone aquifers actually purify the water naturally when the groundwater seeps through the huge limestone sections….if anything it made that river better by a little bit…

      Epic science fail!

    • donscarletti

      Bridges often collapse when ships hit them. See Sunshine Skyway and I-40 Bridge in the US or Tasman Bridge in Australia, all collapsed when hit by ships smaller than this one and none were particularly flimsy.

      It’s a simple inertia problem, a bridge pylon often weighs a lot less than a fully laden cargo ship so they can and will be knocked out if not held down well enough.

      The piers in this bridge are actually made from a rigid steel frame with a concrete veneer, the frame is welded fast to the foundations and is impossible to knock over and the steel frame can handle tension and shear forces meaning it won’t bend or snap.

      Most newer bridges use prefabricated reinforced concrete pillars, which don’t deal with tension or shear forces so well so may tear, crack or shatter if bent in an odd way. They are lighter than steel and much cheaper. They also tend towards far taller piers, finer decks and higher clearances (Yangse River Bridge has a clearance of only 24 metres) meaning it is easier for piers to topple over. Modern bridges however may be pier redundant, i.e. the deck can stay up after losing a pier, though I would not bet on having that feature in China.

      • Alphy

        Very insightful, thanks for the information.

  • 5,000 years of uncivilization

    Great comments above from the enlightened Chinese. Perhaps some of them will be leaders of a future China.

    • Jay K.

      they’d be put under hosue arrest or sent to re-education camps before becoming future leaders of China

      • 5,000 years of uncivilization

        Not if the CCP are gone.

  • Here’s a retrospective – all the greatest hits of looting and panic buying from the past year:
    http://sinopathic.com/panic-buying-looting-and-lining-up-a-brief-retrospective-part-two/

    • mr.wiener

      Shameless plug, but very topical.

      • No. A “shameless plug” would be something you’d accidentally step on in Sasha Grey’s house in the middle of the night, but wished you didn’t.

  • crimsonarmor

    Heavenly kingdom? LOL should be called kingdom of chickens as many panic and rush out to buy everything when something happens. What are people gonna rush out for next? rice? if there’s a rice problem in China its the end for this country :)

  • carmouflagger

    I dont know man, i’m in Nanjing but nobody seems to give a flying f**k around here O.o

  • 1234worldoftank

    Its the lousy character of Chinese. Paranoid over little things such as garlic, salt, water, and any little thing; as if the world is falling apart. When there is earth quake in Japan, I don’t see Japanese people behaving like this. Is really disgrace to be a Chinese, just disgrace.

    • mr.wiener

      Are you in fact Chinese?

      • James

        he’s got a point though about them worrying over nonsense, i’ve met some who say western religion is stupid yet believe in some bizarre crap & shit their pants if you start whistlin past sundown

    • 白色纯棉小裤裤

      Still way better than the RAPIST/ROBBER/MURDERER character of Americans who rob and kill each other whenever a major disaster occurs.

      BTW, unlike what the medias brainwashed you to believe, there was also looting in japan after the earth quake.

      http://fukushima.org.ua/but-there-was-looting-in-japan/

      • garbo

        Judging by the chinglish in on that website, I’d take it with a grain of salt. Chinese people are embarrassed by their behavior and try to show foreigners acting just as badly to justify their actions.

        • 白色纯棉小裤裤

          http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704461304576216701127389350.html#slide/1

          You can say that the Wall Street Journal is run by Chinese too.

          And its also 1234worldoftank first to bring up Japan as a role model.

          Again speaking of the Americans, they are not acting as bad but way worse. I would prefer to live with the people who rush to buy water when a boat sinks, than those who go around murdering and robbing when a hurricane comes.

          • PixelPulse

            Eh, youre comparing two non-comparable situations. Theres a big difference between a boat sinking in a river and natural disaster that leave people homeless.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            In the Sichuan earthquake, 5 million people were left homeless however there were very few cases of robbering not to mention killing. So by making the assumptions that Americans don’t panic what so ever, those two situations are comparable.

      • Jimney Cricket

        A boat sinking while carrying limestone isn’t quite a major disaster. Having a blockage in my toilet rates higher.

      • Mighty

        WHY does it always have to be like this? Whenever China is mentioned in a negative way you ‘wumaos’ always have to fling some shits back, like “better than Americans, etc”.

        Funny how we never hear you talk about bootleg products ranging from fake eggs, fake meats, recycled waste oil for cooking, etc. You should be so FUCKING PROUD.

        • 白色纯棉小裤裤

          Because you are not criticizing China for the sake of Chinese people. You are just brainlessly bashing China to show your superiority. It makes you so upset that you call me wumao and say the f word because I tell the truth that in fact you are indeed INFERIOR to Chinese people. What you’ve just mentioned are still non-comparable to the massive raping robbing and murdering in America. It is so pathetic that a first world nation falls way behind a developing country in terms of morality and ethic.

          • Atlas

            ” you are indeed INFERIOR to Chinese people”

            That’s a real insult if I ever read one.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            True, but those who insulted people first deserved to be insulted.

          • Mighty

            People invite insults with their ‘holier than thou’ bullshits attitude. You’re just earning a living on, what now, 0.5 RMB per post?

          • Mighty

            That’s the funniest shit I’ve heard on this site.

          • Les Battersby

            Morality and ethics? What like knowingly selling tainted milk products? An airline (Shenzhen Airlines) allowing pilots who faked their resume to fly their planes? A property developer tipping scorpions into peoples apartments while they are sleeping to force them to move out? These are just 3 stories, there are dozens more. Don’t talk to me about ethics or lack of standards, you warty nosed troll.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            What about a homicide rate 5 times higher? Mind you that it means 50,000 more murderers per year If USA has same population as China.

            LOL my ass if you think a murderer is more ethical than a person selling tainted milk.

          • Les Battersby

            LOL my ass, stop using yankee english please, in proper british shakesperean english that would be arse. An ass is an animal that labours my dear lad! Seems you need educating, guffaw guffaw!

            You are wrong, people knowingly worked in the factories, knowing that fake flu drugs were streaming out, knowing the milk was tainted, SZ airlines didn’t check and knew those fake pilots were FLYING planes, KNEW! I suppose driving a truck without a HGV license is acceptable to you. Stop trying to hide with your confucian lies!

          • mr.wiener

            Just so there is no confusion this is proper use of the phrase “Faggot Ass”.
            http://i.imgur.com/g5329Uq.jpg

          • Les Battersby

            Great pic and hopefully the previous troll will get it:)

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            So the murderers don’t know if they kill, the victims will die?

            Again tell me which one is more ethical? MURDERER or People selling tainted milk.

          • Les Battersby

            You know my answer, people who are implicit, but say nothing, are just as much murderers. Get lost body!

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            ROFL, No wonder Americans are killing other people and themselves like crazy, they think they are just selling tainted milk.

          • Les Battersby

            more nonsense from a one man mental!

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            yeah,
            “Murderers are just as much as people selling tainted milk.” this kind of statement is nonsense. however, when it comes out of the mouth of an American it totally makes sense. They have already shown their carelessness about murdering and disrespect of human lives.

          • Les Battersby

            not american, guess again ACE!

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Then you must be from Britain who is a running dog of the US. Otherwise it would not explain why insulting the US is like insulting your mum that you are not hesitated to make a nonsense statement which lowers your own IQ to defend her.

          • Rick in China

            “the FACT that you are indeed INFERIOR to Chinese people”

            Race baiting at it’s finest. Good job!

            That being said, if you’re so superior – why do your comments come off as if you have a massive inferiority complex? I guess those superior genes have conquered all but that mental disorder.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            There’s no such race called American.
            Americans are inferior because in their society there’s no respect for human lives.
            There’s no point to argue with you because what you said is your FEELING and you don’t have the ability to prove it.
            How ever I have well proven the inferiority of Americans.

          • Rick in China

            I guess your superior genetic makeup doesn’t account for logic or reasoning ability.

            Or in this case – I guess, fact. If you seriously think ‘respect for humanity’ is a high priority on the mainland, you’re beyond ignorant.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            So you are still barking without any valid reasoning or evidence that can counter my argument.

          • 五毛Partay!

            You’re right brother. Americans are all stupid and inferior to Chinese. Do you know how few criminals they execute compared to China? And their news is allowed to freely express itself with no government control! How laughable. They don’t even have labor camps! Thank God brother Kim Jong Eun has the balls to stand up to the scary scary inferior US

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Americans are not stupid, however they are inferior due to their lack of respect for human lives, it has nothing to do with the law or the government.
            Speaking of government executing criminals, it is true that American government executes less criminals, however, it “executes” tens of thousands of innocent people around the world each year.

          • 五毛Partay!

            Yeah! That’s what I meant. Not to mention when a woman kills her abusive husband they law blames HIM! And sometimes doesn’t even send her to an execution. HA! And now some people there are talking about stopping Basahar Assad from killing the 80,000 of HIS people. Hear that America? HIS people, not yours. Mind your own business.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Can you read? I already stated that their lack of respect for human lives HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAWS.
            I will not argue with you whether a law is good or bad. However even if Amerian laws are good, it only further proves their inferiority because such good laws still fail to stop their murderer and raper nature.

          • BiggJ

            What is your argument?

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Go read my previous posts.

          • 五毛Partay!

            The classic “Because I said so” argument. As impervious to reason as the glorious red sky that shines over China.

          • Rick in China

            *opens eyes*

            Evidence. Try it some time.

          • 五毛Partay!

            They respect humanity. . . Just not everyones. In fact, they’re REALLY good at respecting officials and cadre.

          • Les Battersby

            No my dear boy, not from there at all, you are sorely mistaken. although I am quite fond of the brits my dear boy. They know how to pour a good pint of beer, guffaw guffaw

          • zi_ni_ma_13

            as i read further down this page, i went from amused to fairly annoyed.

            murderers are bad. whatever their motives.

            but poisoning hundreds, maybe thousands of babies and kids to make a buck. well, thats disgusting, and seemingly more capitalistic than the capitalist devil america.

            if you were smarter, than you would bring up how the US / NATO military is using and has used uranium enriched (as well as other fairly toxic) weapons throughout the iraq and afghan campaigns. thus leading to widespread birth defects in both countries, especially areas of heavy conflict, such as fallujah and helmand province. essentially, both countries are poisoning little children somewhere for a profit.

            america does it outside its borders, and china does it within. both countries suck, everybody wins. i was in the US airforce for 3 years. get off the internet and enjoy life, cuz the world will suck by the time we have kids, and none of you will know why because you were all embroiled in very important forum arguments.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Considering the fact that American already caused more than a million deaths in Iraq, poisoning some children is not a big deal. It amuses me that you care more about thousands of poisoned children who mostly survived than hundreds of thousands of those who are killed for no reason.

          • zi_ni_ma_13

            obviously i said nothing about the dead. being a war vet, the thought of all those dead linger like a shadow that follows me everywhere. but the dead are dead, and nothing can really be done. there is no such thing as justice for the dead. and as much as most of us want it, george w. will never hang for his crimes. he has the american version of guanxi.

            whereas, something COULD possibly be done to slow or even prevent the potential poisoning and deformation of the born and yet to be born. same with that milk poisoning, people knew about it, but no one did anything to stop it. everyone everywhere sits around and cries out in horror after its over, even when they knew what would happen. the whole world is becoming disturbingly numb.

            glad to have amused, and compliments on your english. i wish my chinese was as good as your english.

          • 五毛Partay!

            “Considering the fact that America have already caused more than a million deaths in Iraq, poisoning some children is not a big deal. ”

            Why is everything a dick measuring contest with you and the US?

            “poisoning some children is not a big deal.”

            Under no context does that sentence register as okay to me. I’m not American OR Chinese and you sound like the nerdy kid being jealous of the cool guy who gets a girlfriend.

          • 五毛Partay!

            It’s not murder, it’s “harmonizing”

          • Jimney Cricket

            Maybe if there were more homicides, there would be fewer douche-bags

          • Mighty

            Only due to the fact that for every 100 crimes in China only 20 is reported. For every 100 reported crimes only 10 is actively pursued. For every 100 active case only 5 is prosecuted. Do the math.

            *My numbers may be exaggerated but you got the picture

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Lol where do those numbers come from? You just randomly make them up like a 5 year old preschool kid?

            Let me tell you some numbers. “The Department of Defense estimates there are about 19,000 sexual assaults in the military per year but according to the latest Pentagon statistics (2013), only 1,108 troops filed for an investigation during the most recent yearly reporting period and during that period, only 575 cases were processed. Of the cases processed, only 96 went to court-martia”.

            It is quoted from wikipedia.

            Now go figure.

          • Mighty

            I laugh at you for taking my numbers as facts when I only used it to demonstrate a pattern. I even noted that my numbers are exaggerated.

            As for whatever numbers you throw out here, any 5 year old preschool kid can google them. And yes, more often than not, the source is from Wikipedia. That really makes you feel smart, huh? Unless you’re really just 5 years old.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            “FACT: CHINA has more unreported crimes due to passiveness of the people. ”
            “Only due to the fact that for every 100 crimes in China only 20 is reported. ”

            Now you say that you are not talking about FACTs. Is it fun to slap in your own face?

            By saying any 5 year old preschool kid can google you are implying that you are less intelligent than a 5 year old kid because you can’t even use google to find any numbers to support your points.

            The existence of yourself further proves the Inferiority of Americans.

            And for the numbers I throwed there, 96 out of 19,000 sexual assaults went to court

            Now tell me how do you feel about the American legal system which you are so proud of?

          • Mighty

            No, it is you who slapped yourself in the face by taking my ‘Facts’ so seriously and reacting as though I committed perjury.

            By saying any 5 y/o can google I’m saying you are as smart as a 5 year old because you can use the internet. Wikipedia is an ‘open’ source and its accuracy is questionable. My point is this, I couldn’t care less what anyone post, with stats or not, because anything can be pulled up on the net. And to think anyone passionately debate over ‘facts’ is just amusing. Ask yourself what can you gain from this? As for me, I’m just having fun…at your expense.

            That’s me slapping you in the face now.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            now you have invalidated all the arguments you made before.
            Speaking of wikipedia, any article can be an accredible source as long as its professionally written and properly cited. The numbers I mention before are referenced from the reports from the UN and the department of defence of America. Those numbers can be easily validated. Simply saying “the accuracy of wikipedia is questionable” could not counter my arguments.

            So to conclude, my statement that Americans are inferior interms of morality and ethic still holds true. Regardless of you feeling happy or not, my goals have already been accomplished. Which is to establish my statement as well as to practice my english.

          • Mighty

            You can live by your statement that Americans are morally and ethically inferior as much as how the world sees the same inferiority in China.

            You can conclude however you want but I also made my case that I don’t take things seriously on the net. You consider that was arguing? No one, including you, on the net can solicit enough of my care to actually have arguments. I will much rather confront people in person. That way, when necessary, I can punch them in the face.

            Is the government paying you enough for this? Don’t tell me you’re doing it out of pure patriotism. It’s a good place to practice your English but not to polish up on your Poly Sci class. Btw, I must say, your English skill is very impressive.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Since you don’t have arguments then what you said about how the world sees China is another nonsense which I will just simply discard.

            No I am not paid by the government just like you are not paid by the US government to bash China.

            I argue because I like to do so plus that I am proud of my Chinese identity.

            BTW, thank you for acknowleging my English skill.

          • Mighty

            People sees China the same way you see America or the world. Through media edited to persuade your opinion one way or another.

            I am proud of my Chinese heritage and always considered China to be my motherland. But I read one disturbing article here that made me realize just how you Mainlanders feel toward people like me. You talk as though we left by choice and betrayed you. I can offer a wide range of reasons but I’m sure you won’t understand. Even amongst mainlanders from Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangdong (where I still have relatives) you are prejudice against each other.

            I argue just for the fun of it as I never take things seriously online.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            America and its running dogs does not necessarily represent “the world”. From what I know people of the world hate America much more than they dislike China. That is why many people are willing to sacrifice their lives to kill Americans. The so called “Terrorist” attacks are nothing but revenge for the millions of lives lost due to America’s evil foreign policies which are driven by the inhumane character of Americans. Every single American knows the crimes the US army is committing to other countries. Yet none of them did anything to stop it. When revenge comes to them ultimately, those heartless barstards could only cry like a baby and ask “WHY” as though they are innocent .

            It amuses me that your philosophy is easily twisted by “one disturbing article” posted online, yet you still call yourself “never take things seriously online”.

          • mr.wiener

            Everyone hates the big dog. China is on the up and has money to spend. Lots of infastructure projects going into Africa, smart too, Choosing the projects they want to do and bringing in experts and labor. Not just throwing money at despots like the Americans used to.
            When they no longer have the money to spend and they want to collect on their generosity the boot will be on the other foot however. Third world loathing of the Chinese will far surpase any that we have seen directed at the Americans.
            Case in point for historical reference:Vietnam,

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            China was the big dog in history from time to time. China’s power was projected through free trade and cultural influence, many small countries in asia pay tribes to China voluntarily, none of them hated China like the “third world” hating the US. If China rises again in the future, it will only rise peacefully.
            Chinese people are not like the barbarian Americans who exterminated 99.6% of an entire race and occupied their land, and still continue to slaughter people around the world for their interests as of today.

          • mr.wiener

            I’d like to continue this discussion without any self -righteous dicky -waving about whose arsehole does or does not smell like roses. Suffice it to say China as the all singing all dancing navel-gazing middle kingdom was not well liked by may of its neighbors. [Koreans, Vietnamese, Tibetans, Mongols, Uighers et al], but was smart enough not to compound this problem by actually colonizing them [until modern times in Xinjiung and Tibet].

            Modern China has energy needs and [like the Yanks in the middle East] will have to blunder into the mire of local conflicts in the future to keep the oil flowing. If you have any suggestions how this omlet can be achieved without breaking some eggs I’m willing to listen, but please do not base this on some chauvinistic idea that: “Chinese=good, Americans=bad”.

          • Jimney Cricket

            Most asian countries hate Chinese people. Vietnamese even prefer Americans (go figure). Cambodians, Malaysians, even Thai people are not really very keen on them.. I don’t know where you are getting these delusions of a beloved China. Try visiting these places instead of dreaming

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            I was talking about China in history, today’s China is still too weak to project her influence even in asia countries.

            Even in modern days, It doesn’t seem that the people you talked about are willing to kidnap a plane to hit the Shanghai World Financial Centre either.

            Some of them may dislike China,but I highly doubt it can be called “Hate”.

          • mr.wiener

            Point is.
            At the moment we have “dislike”, 20 years down the track it is going to be hate. I don’t even get me started on the problems China is going to have once the Jihadis start calling you “the old Satan”.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            When you have the power and influence, dislike or hate can be turned into love. Just look at Japan, how they hated the US 50 years ago and how they are worshipping white cocks now.

          • BiggJ

            You also have to have a lot of soft power to do things like that. No one is going to look start loving a bunch of commies from another country. You will never see whites/blacks/arabs looking up to and wanting to be like chinese….not in our lifetime. No matter how much money you have. Maybe if you can be the best in the world at cultural influences.

          • mr.wiener

            No, Japan loved the US 60 years ago, hated them 50 years ago, started to hate them 30 years ago and have been loving then for the last 25 years. With the Japanese it is all relative to their rise or fall.
            Power and influence are only good according to how you wield it. China is throwing lots of money around now in Africa, lets see what things are like when they have less money to spend in the future and want more return for their investment….uh oh!

          • Jimney Cricket

            China in history….hmmm. So, let me get this straight. Other countries around China sent tributes to China because they loved China soooo much. So much so that Vietnam, instead of staying part of China, became independent. Japan, another country that paid tribute because they loved China, became your most bitter enemy. Lastly, I’m sure Cambodia, knowing that Pol Pot was best buddies with Mao Zedong, are filled with endearment towards China.

            To conclude, I doubt whether any country in the world has ever loved being associated with China.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Asia countries, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Thailand etc all had been using Chinese Characters for a long time in their history. They also adopted Chinese cultures and traditions. However, they all did it VOLUNTARILY. China have not done it by the means of colonization like for example what the inferior Birt pigs did.

            And your reasoning of why other country did not love China simply don’t make any sense.

            Love and hate can change over time, some countries disliking China now does not mean that they have never loved China.

          • Mighty

            What you said is subjective. Each person’s view is through his personal experience. Mine is based on many accounts I experienced. The airport incident (read it if you can find it) I mentioned is just one of many. My disdain is toward you mainlanders and not China as a nation. If you saw me in JapanCRUSH you would know how I’m defensive of China when it comes to the subject of wartime atrocities against Chinese, comfort women, Diaoyu Islands, etc.

            I just replied to another poster regarding the article that I had mentioned to you. (Read it) http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/stories/ethnic-chinese-american-soldiers-who-died-in-the-iraq-war.html

            Can you honestly tell me that’s not how you feel? What I said about not taking anything serious online is the forum where people are just exchanging their views. But that article shows the mainlanders’ mentality toward oversea Chinese.

            “Philosophy”? There is nothing philosophical about it. It’s just an honest reaction to what I felt.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            I tend to base my view base on facts and statistics rather than my own personal experience, because the experience of one man is limited, from the limited few cases there just can’t be drawn any objective conclusion.

            My view of Americans is objective, because its based on facts and statistic, rather than the experience of my own.

            The articles you referenced does not show their mentality toward oversea Chinese howerver. It shows their mentality toward the oversea Chinese who are willing to fight and sacrifice their lives for another nation which is considered the biggest rival of China.

          • Mighty

            Have you travel abroad often to expand on your experience? Or is your entire life structured on ‘facts and statistics’ you read on the internet? I am surprised that an intelligently minded person as you would rather NOT believe in what you see or experience over ‘facts and stats’ published on the net. Whatever you have experienced is just one man’s limited view that has no impact on your own life?

            If you ever come to America you’ll find that: If you have a flat tire or stranded on the road someone will come and offer assistance. If you fell down someone will rush to your aid. If there’s an auto accident everyone nearby always run over to see if they can do anything (not just to stand and gawk). These are the Americans I know of.

            The comments in the article I referenced strongly shows the mentality of Mainlanders toward overseas Chinese. It’s not just about fighting in a war that I’m also against of.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            I will give you an example to better explain how I make conclusions based on facts and stats rather than my own experience.

            For example, I bought a smartphone of a certain brand and it broke, two of my friends bought the same phone and theirs broke too. However, I will not conclude that this brand is bad, because I know it is the nature of electronics to break down over time and we could be just having bad luck. And then I did a research online, I found that the warranty claim rate of this brand is however lower than the warranty claim rate of other brands. So I made the decision that I will continue to buy my smartphone from the same company.

            Similarly, if you got in trouble in America and someone lend a helping hand, it does not mean that it will be always the case.

            If I wish, I can always find examples to counter your claims.
            http://www.today.com/video/today/36776405#36776405
            http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/nyregion/08towns.html?_r=0&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1368979765-Kx8SPr5VtGoP5ic0rsABDw
            http://abcnews.go.com/US/seattle-teen-girl-beaten-peers-security-guards-watch/story?id=9800478

            There’s a study on the bystander effect, its shows that “The greater the number of bystanders, the less likely it is that any one of them will help.” So I will not wonder even if this kind of thing happen more frequently in China.

            I also believe that to see how people behave in lager emergencies such as major disasters is a better way to evaluate their ethic and morality.

            In the Sichuan earth quake, over a thousand Chengdu cab drivers volunteered to carry relief supplies and wounded persons, Over a million volunteers came to the scene to help from all over the Country, tens of thousands of people lined up to donate blood. You will never see these kind of things happen in America.

          • Mighty

            I was wrong about you. I thought too highly of you. You speak so much of how one can easily be manipulated yet you’re are setting a perfect example with your example. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe you and your friends bought the phones from a bad batch? Yes, if you’re familiar with just a bit of the manufacturing process – something about China you guys are always boasting about – then you will know there are instances of bad batches.

            You can conclude that your phone is not a bad brand despite being affected by a defective one and continue to support that company based on stats and not personal experience. You are a good consumer, for any company.

            3 examples dating from 2008. So what are the stats on that compared to similar instances in China? I never said things like that don’t happen in the US. Just not as frequently as in China.

            Your last paragraph is a joke. The US have effective infrastructure for emergency responses for disasters. That’s why it’s rare to see the general public’s need to be involved. But within days thousands will be donating money, food or items for victims. We don’t need ‘millions’ of volunteers to move rubble of collapsed buildings that were shoddily constructed in the first place.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            So the US government provided sufficient food,water and selters for all the homeless people in hurricane katrina from day one?

            Every one was comfortable and happy so no extra help was needed?

            lol, stop finding lame excuses for not doing anything.

          • Mighty

            They didn’t?
            How were those ‘excuses’? A lame excuse is when people comment something on China you quickly find faults on the US. LOL!

            And you’re so good at tap dancing around matters that you have no retorts to. But that’s more admirable than any lame excuses.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Of course they didn’t.

            Those are excueses because you are lying to justify your heartless action of not doing anything.

            The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) took days to establish operations in New Orleans, and even then did not seem to have a sound plan of action. Officials, even including President George W. Bush, seemed unaware of just how bad things were in New Orleans and elsewhere: how many people were stranded or missing; how many homes and businesses had been damaged; how much food, water and aid was needed. Katrina had left in her wake what one reporter called a “total disaster zone” where people were “getting absolutely desperate.”

            (For one thing, many had nowhere to go. At the Superdome in New Orleans, where supplies had been limited to begin with, officials accepted 15,000 more refugees from the storm on Monday before locking the doors. City leaders had no real plan for anyone else. Tens of thousands of people desperate for food, water and shelter broke into the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center complex, but they found nothing there but chaos. Meanwhile, it was nearly impossible to leave New Orleans: Poor people especially, without cars or anyplace else to go, were stuck. For instance, some people tried to walk over the Crescent City Connector bridge to the nearby suburb of Gretna, but police officers with shotguns forced them to turn back.)

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Of course they didn’t.

            Those are excuses because you are lying to justify your actions of not doing anything.

            The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) took days to establish operations in New Orleans, and even then did not seem to have a sound plan of action. Officials, even including President George W. Bush, seemed unaware of just how bad things were in New Orleans and elsewhere: how many people were stranded or missing; how many homes and businesses had been damaged; how much food, water and aid was needed. Katrina had left in her wake what one reporter called a “total disaster zone” where people were “getting absolutely desperate.”

            (For one thing, many had nowhere to go. At the Superdome in New Orleans, where supplies had been limited to begin with, officials accepted 15,000 more refugees from the storm on Monday before locking the doors. City leaders had no real plan for anyone else. Tens of thousands of people desperate for food, water and shelter broke into the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center complex, but they found nothing there but chaos. Meanwhile, it was nearly impossible to leave New Orleans: Poor people especially, without cars or anyplace else to go, were stuck. For instance, some people tried to walk over the Crescent City Connector bridge to the nearby suburb of Gretna, but police officers with shotguns forced them to turn back.)

          • Mighty

            Ok, they didn’t do anything. It was a conspiracy to eliminate the blacks. Are you happy with that?

            Moving on….

          • GatsbyC

            Throws some shite up about conspiracy and racism in the air and decides its time to move on.

          • Mighty

            Given the situation it would’ve been the smartest thing for me to do. But I’m back here again. *Sigh….

            The Gold medal in the Special Olympics is yours. I’ll settle for Bronze.

          • GatsbyC
          • Mighty

            Sit on that. You asswipe.

          • Mighty

            Btw, thanks for the ‘name calling’ to demonstrate it.

          • GatsbyC

            LMAO that was the whole point.

            The funny thing is I literally sat here and thought “hm…. I should call him a golden retard too but he might miss the connection… I’ll just use asshat since it’s right there.”

            Retard calls you retard. Who mad?

          • Mighty
          • GatsbyC

            Sarcasm? This makes no sense. I’m trying to figure what you did here.

            I think it’s because you say it’s sarcasm when it was clearly my intention to ironically call you an asshat.

            On a tangent, you believe that hierarchy is for retards?

          • Mighty

            I said “Btw”. See what I did there? I guess not.

            That little smiling figure is you attaining ‘self actualization’ as a retard.

            Swagtard!

          • GatsbyC

            Actually, your last paragraph perfectly outlines the psychology of the Bystander Effect.

            “Dozens of civilians on the beach, and watching from their homes across from the beach, did not enter the water, apparently **expecting public safety officers to conduct a rescue.** Eventually, Zack collapsed in the water, apparently from hypothermia. Even then, nobody entered the water for several minutes. Finally, a good samaritan entered the water and pulled Zack to shore, after which he died.”

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

          • Mighty

            Poor Zack. Had he chosen a beach crowded with less “highly masculine” people he very well may have been saved.

          • James

            Well with firemen & police on the scene, many people think trained personnel know what they’re doing. In some cases they don’t The guy may’ve been better off if no emergency services came

            That was a weird story anyway, a 53 yo guy w a foster mom, wtf?

          • Jing Li

            It sounds like we have a lot in common.

          • Mighty

            I think we do but you’re in a more welcoming situation.

          • Jing Li

            Crime has been increasing at a rate of 10 percent a year since the late 1970s and early 1980s.

            The crime rate tripled between 1984 and 2004. The total number of criminal cases rose 13 percent to 2.2 million between 1998 and 1999. In 2004, there were more than a million serious crimes. In 2006 there was a rise in the number of “major criminal cases” including explosions, kidnapings and homicides, with crimes being committed by younger and younger people.

            A report by the respected Academy of Social Sciences noted a “dramatic increase” in violent crime, including homicides, robbery and rape, in 2009 over the previous year, with prosecutors reporting 10 percent more cases.

          • GatsbyC

            Uneducated people can be said to be AMORAL.
            Educated people can be said to be moral.

            China is mostly uneducated.
            America is mostly educated, ethically speaking.

            *I use America as an example only because I’m American.

            _________
            Generally speaking….

            Chinese can be said to be AMORAL.

            – Most literally do not know better. The Chinese government filters everything except their message.
            – Chinese therefore are skeptical of the government ideal
            – Chinese cannot even speak openly about morality without being quashed

            – There is little national sense of good ethics

            Americans can be said to be IMMORAL.

            – They know full well the moral implications of their actions. The nuances of good and bad are openly discussed.

            – They have the infrastructure to do moral deeds. By which I mean, good deeds are rewarded (reputation, money, etc). Americans don’t worry about an old granny suing you for helping her to the hospital.

            So let’s talk about moral reprehensibility.
            Here are some US examples: Sandusky, Steubenville Rape, Mass murders, Financial schemes (goldman), ATF Fast and Furious, THE CIA (my favorite).

            All recent.
            _______________

            Also, many people like to think the way people treat animals is ethically revealing.

            Industrialized and institutionalized baby!

          • Mighty

            I’m criticizing the rampant corruptions and the total disregard of human lives and well being in order to get rich. How many buildings and bridges collapsed due to cost cutting? Tainted milk, fake pork buns, fake meats, fake red wine, fake cooking oil, I can go on and on but I’m sure you got the picture.

            You talk about rapes and murders? What about the mass killings of children at schools? Rapes by people in high positions is common in China. Crimes in the US are committed by hoodlums but in China it’s mostly by corrupt officials and people abusing their authority.

            You’re right that it’s ‘non-comparable’. Crazy shits like that just don’t happen here.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Sorry but US is the master of mass killings at schools.
            Talking about rape, Inmates and comrades rape each other it is so common that it become part of US culture.
            Statistic tells that US has multiple rapers and murderers than china per 100,000 population, regardless of how many individual examples you come up with, it is the fact that US will have tens of thousands of murderers and hundreds of thousands of rapers more if US has the same population as China.
            Again tell me is murderer more ethical than corrupted officials? Or is raper more ethical than people abusing authority?

          • Mighty

            FACT: US has more CONVICTED criminals per crime committed. (Proves the justice system at work)

            FACT: CHINA has more unreported crimes due to passiveness of the people. (No one does anything)

            FACT: CHINA has more cases dismissed through corruption and/or intimidation. (Don’t deny this)

            FACT: USA > CHINA (Nod your head)

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            how do you come up with those “FACT”s?

            Can you give any numbers regarding your “FACT”s?

            If you can’t, those are not FACTs, just plain FEELINGS or IMAGINATIONS of an insecure white boy.

            BTW, tell me how many of the rapings in US prison and army are reported and go through trials.

          • Jing Li

            I would like to see some proof of your facts.

            Fact #1: “The US has more convicted criminals.” I, myself, have never seen statistics to back this up. From what I’ve seen, China is pretty good at convicting people (maybe too good sometimes).

            Fact #2: “China has more unreported crimes.” Although this is believable, I’d be interested in seeing the proof. This point, I won’t argue though, although the comment “no one does anything” I don’t agree with.

            Fact #3: “China has more cases dismissed.” I don’t think I really need the proof for this. This one is very difficult to argue.

            Fact #4: As someone who’s called MANY countries my home, I can list off about a dozen countries that are “>” than China AND America.

          • Mighty

            As I said to others, those ‘FACTS’ were intended in a humorous way. People need to lighten up and not be so over sensitive about what is said. Why can’t anyone just laugh at it and reply “Hahaha…but US has more serial killers and school teachers who have sex with teenage students”.

            I said ‘on one does anything’ as a way to say that Chinese are very passive. I attribute that to the Confucianism of ‘minding one’s own affairs’, especially in domestic or family matters.

            USA>CHINA was just to stroke the flame. We all know China is US’s biggest creditor.

          • Jing Li

            Perhaps, but what it seems is that everything you “hate” about these people are traits that you have shown as well.

            I don’t much pay attention to China bashers, but not all criticism of China is “bashing”. It’s an honest attempt to understand the problem at hand, identify the cause, and suggest a solution. Many on this site do just that. In fact, I rarely see comments that “America is better.”

            But from the comments I’ve seen from yourself, you are the exact same thing as the “bashers” but from the other side of the sea. Your reaction to most comments is “America sucks, China is the best.”

            So, it’s a little hypocritical. I find both you and the legitimate “China bashers” both offer very little to a conversation. And I don’t mean that as an insult or to suggest that I am superior. I simply would be more interested in more logic and less venom.

          • Mighty

            I respect you for your unbiased observation. I’m also guilty of being a part of which you have listed. But, we all look for a little recognition and/or admittance by the other to feel vindicated. I recently bashed India regarding the recent rapes. This Indian man and I started some heated exchanges but later he “acknowledged” the issue and even said “I bow my head in disgust”. I admired him for that and we concluded our tiff on a positive note. We can all learn from him. I guess I should be the first.

          • Jin Ch’in

            Mass raping of children by people in authority doesn’t happen outside of china? hahaha clearly you have not heard of the Catholic church!

          • Hayek

            “Massive raping, robbing, and murdering in America” … And it’s a FACT!.. Really? That’s odd because I would feel a lot safer in the US than China… Actually I’d probably feel safer in the US than 2/3 of this planet.

            It must be paradise in China! Chinese people must have the best genes! A true harmonious society!!

            … LOL

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Your FEELING does not matter, UN statistic tells that you are 5 times more likely to be murdered in the US. Oh, I forgot that Americans dont mix with math. Just go alone with your FEELING then.

          • Jing Li

            “Because you are not criticizing China for the sake of Chinese people. You are just brainlessly bashing China to show your superiority.”

            I think you may have something there. Some are trying to prove they are superior. It’s good that you are above that.

            “…. you are indeed INFERIOR to the Chinese people. What you’ve just mentioned are still non-comparable to the massive raping, robbing and murding in America. It is so pathetic that a first world nation falls way behind a developing country in terms of morality and ethic.”

            I think you may have something there. You are trying to prove that you are superior. It’s good that they are above that.

          • Jing Li

            You are completely guilty of the same thing. I agree with you, but don’t think that you’re better.

      • zi_ni_ma_13

        i admit america has its fair share of criminal activity, a lot of fairly fucked up stuff happens back home.

        but, for me, china is a bit worse. simply because they have been continuously pimping out generations of unwanted daughters. and everyone knows, but nobody really does anything. the whole sex industry here is pretty disturbing. hookers and kfc ; 24 hours.

        i like it here (sichuan), and i feel a bit safer than i did back home. i just wish the society would find something better for all those unwanted daughters……..

  • Jin Ch’in

    Oh please at least people are not looting and killing each other like the Negros were in New Orleans after Katrina.

    • mr.wiener

      The 1920’s rang……ahh you know the rest.
      “Negros”, good god where did you learn your English?

      • Jin Ch’in

        I like the word negros..i do not find it offensive at all so keep ur panties on ladies.

        • Jing Li

          I have met people who like the word chink. I choose not to associate with them because they’re obviously superior intellect.

          • Jin Ch’in

            negro is an adjective for the color black so when referring to a black person as well black is not racist..Chink is a slur which means there is no origin of this word. Its used to offend and put people down as a race.

          • That’s brilliant, bumpkin.

            about a race) is a derogatory term. I don’t care what the literal meaning of the word is in Spanish. The word “chink” comes from the world “Qing”, as in the Qing Dynasty, or the word “chink” which means “a small crevice”…used to poke fun at the Asians’s eyes. It also has a literal meaning. Does that mean it’s ok to say, now? It’s not a racial slur anymore, no matter how upset it makes people feel when you call them “chink”?

          • James

            no negro is a slur & chink is just short for chinkyeyed effeminate faggot

          • Jing Li

            Now THAT’S mindless bashing.

          • mr.wiener

            “negro is an adjective for the color black so when referring to a black person as well black is not racist.”

            Could I film you telling that to a group of brothers and put it on Youtube? Please, please, I’ll pay you for it!

          • zi_ni_ma_13

            a black guy once told me a joke about chinese people

            Q. how do the chinese name their kids?

            A. throw silverware down the steps ….. ( then he blurted out a fairly funny PING CHONG CHING )

            a chinese guy once told me a joke about black people

            Q. why do black people have so many nightmares?

            A. because someone shot the only one that had a dream.

            and then we all smoked a joint together. so, my point is that everyone should shut up and pass the dutchie. no ones gonna quantify racism for everyone else, its pragmatic dummies.

          • Jing Li

            Let’s go back to the original statement: “Oh please at least people are not looting and killing each other like the Negros were in New Orleans after Katrina.”

            So your intention was not to offend?

        • mr.wiener

          I’m glad you enjoy it, please come to America and feel free to use it as much as you like …and send us some photos from the hospital so we can all enjoy your use of this word.

          • Jing Li

            I am really interested in these people that post under the pretense that they’re Chinese. I say under the pretense because I wonder if they’re really Chinese, but I’ll address that at the end of this long winded query.

            They seem to post, generally, the same replies to every story/comment that criticizes the great land of China even slightly.

            A) Much worse things have happened in 1) America 2) Japan 3) another country that is approved to hate
            B) A racist comment
            C) It’s not China’s fault. It was the American government. It was the brainwashed western masses. It was your mother.

            Don’t they realize this isn’t subduing the criticism of the comment/story, it is fueling it? By a) posting the same type replies to every single comment b) never taking responsibility and c) never providing any sort of opinion on a solution, it just makes these people (and as they are portraying themselves as Chinese, people will tend to think this is such) seem more shallow, clueless and ignorant than the original comment/story.

            The next question would be, and a suspicion I’ve often had, are they really Chinese? Is it, perhaps, part of a little plan by a genuine China hater to create more prejudice and contempt towards the people of China?

            The second would make more sense (and give me a sense of comfort). I don’t know, though. It’s odd that the usual defense of negative Chinese press is this.

          • BiggJ

            I like what you wrote. I often thought the same thing. I thought maybe it was some worker from chinasmack who just would say some chinese loving bullshit to get everyone talking. Or they get paid by the government to counteract all the negative things being said about china…who knows? It’s most likely the obvious…..Just some guy who hates america and will defend china by making american examples. :)

          • mr.wiener

            The uber Chinese patriot is easy to pick [Chinese , Chinese that is] Apart from the syntax , some of the ideas are just too…Chinese to be anything else but. Whites pretending to be asian? Could happen, but as with some wu mao stirring the pot I prefer a more simple explanation.

            The majority of these I think are Foreign born Chinese, or Chinese who moved to the west at an early age.

            [Please bear with me. I do not for an instant mean that many ABCs or migrant Chinese are like this.]

            Feelings of rejection from casual racism in the west , plus returning to the “motherland” and finding they are different there too , better than Chinese, but more knowledgeable than racist westerners lead some of these folks to a feeling of over-protectionism towards China.

            Personal I find comfort in the fact that you find dickheads in every race and culture:)

          • Jin Ch’in

            I am by no mean a “patriot” ABC like everyone i have my opinion of the local Chinese people and government. But unlike a white westerner i wont make degrading comments base on people who live a totally different life style and social normal to them.

            And unlike these westerners if i do not like a government regime or people i would just leave. These are the same people who happy to get their nice expats wages each month thanks to the very “oppressive” goverment which allow their company to pay them their living.

          • Mighty

            You are one hypocritical fuckass. “But unlike a white westerner i wont make degrading comments base on people who live a totally different life style and social normal to them.” You self-righteous mofo.

            Without provocation you called me a ‘homo’. Then assumed I was an ‘aging Asian rapper wanna be’.

            Stop living in your delusional closet and step into the light. Punkass ABF (American born faggot).

          • Rick in China

            You’re a fucking idiot.

            You think the government “allows” ‘their’ company to pay ‘them’ ‘their’ living?

            You just sound like a butt hurt fool who doesn’t know how common practices work.

            Many expats in China aren’t here necessarily because they said, “I want to go to China”, but because they love their job or their company (foreign) offered them a good package to work in China on their company’s behalf. They often get paid a common foreign wage plus a ‘package’, which may include things like a decent housing/schooling for children/insurance/etc subsidy, sometimes it’s 40% or so of their salary, sometimes even more. This may seem like some “oh my god” this foreign dude just came to China for money thing to semi-retarded people who don’t realize that they’d be making pretty much the same, often with a better overall healthy living lifestyle in whatever country they came from, but are essentially *doing their job* in coming here.

            I’d guess you’re either a child – ie. just out of school (if that), or a low level employee of some sort with no sense of how the world actually works…this is of course based on your comments, which seem both naive and inexperienced.

          • James

            so tell us about rednecks yeehaw

          • James

            http://zzwave.com/plaboard/

            abc chinazi heaven

          • Mighty

            On the other hand he approves of people calling him ‘faggot’.

    • Ron King

      Funny, you are! Defending against the stereotyping of one race by degrading another. Pure genius!

      • 白色纯棉小裤裤

        Because buying salt or water is not a big deal but killing and robbering are.
        Its funny that you are so concerned about the people buying stuffs with their own money but have nothing to say about the people killing other people.

        • Ron King

          You’re funny.

        • Jin Ch’in

          My guess is because he is black himself

          • Mighty

            You’re too stupid to making any guesses. Just stick to your distorted assumptions.

          • Jing Li

            “My guess is because he is black himself.”

            What does his color have to do with this conversation. I don’t know what color his skin is, but his comments have been far more constructive than others. It’s a shame that you think in terms of color. It is a shallow way to think.

            It’s like if I wrote out “2+2=?” Most people would say 4, not “what color are the 2’s?”

          • Jin Ch’in

            Because that would explain why he thinks its OK for black to loot and kill. And yes black people have a disgusting odor that’s a fact not a racist statement.

          • mr.wiener

            Hmm, lets not get started on the “smell” thing as in China that would be voluntary , not biological.
            “But”, you counter, “Chinese people don’t think other Chinese smell”
            I’m sure black people feel the same way about their own.

            It is in fact a racist statement because someone of one race is making a blanket and derogatory statement about another race.

          • Jin Ch’in

            You could say Asian male have smaller size penis no offense taken. Didn’t stop them making over 1 billion people so if it function why hate unless you want to be a porn star (which is the number 1 profession for blacks)?

            Second if you said Asians have small slant eyes or yellow skin tone that’s OK also because ..well we do!
            So its the same as someone saying blacks have extremely bad body odor due to enlarged sweat glands that’s just the truth.

            I do not hate blacks, not enough to join a hate group or want to do them harm but i also do not want their presents near me or my family and friends either. Its a shame New York is full of Negros otherwise it would be a such a city.

          • mr.wiener

            ” you want to be a porn star (which is the number 1 profession for blacks)?”…..Ummm…….moving right along.

            “blacks have extremely bad body odor due to enlarged sweat glands “….The problem with this sentence is the word “bad” , as this is speculative and a matter of opinion.

            As to the last, fair call, to each his own, however I seem to recall many moons ago you were making the same pitch that “Nigger” should not be considered a hate word, you seem to have softened to the extent that you think “Negro” should be more acceptable…perhaps there is hope for you yet. I choose my friends according to the person, not the race, and since most of them are in my rugby team we all smell pretty rank after a game. I quite like it when anyone gives me “presents”.

          • Ron King

            I didn’t really want to get into name calling, but might as well call it what it is. You are an idiot. That is a fact. If you have been properly educated then either your education, your family, or your society has failed you. Let’s take a look at this conversation, shall we?

            Jin Ch’in: “Oh please at least people are not looting and killing each other like the Negros were in New Orleans after Katrina.”

            Ron King: “Funny, you are! Defending against the stereotyping of one race by degrading another. Pure genius!”

            白色纯棉小裤裤: “Because buying salt or water is not a big deal but killing and robbering are.

            Its funny that you are so concerned about the people buying stuffs with their own money but have nothing to say about the people killing other people.”

            Jin Ch’in: “My guess is because he is black himself.”

            Jing Li: “What does his color have to do with this conversation. I don’t know what color his skin is, but his comments have been far more constructive than others. It’s a shame that you think in terms of color. It is a shallow way to think.”

            白色纯棉小裤裤: “Because that would explain why he thinks its OK for black to loot and kill. And yes black people have a disgusting odor that’s a fact not a racist statement.”

          • Guest

            I didn’t see anything about smell, but I do agree with you. Debating with these two is next to impossible. They either don’t read or understand. I’m not sure which, but I’m done talking with them.

            It’s probably because they’re black :)

            Just kidding!

          • Guest

            You have a misquote. The bad smell was from Jin Ch’in. But they were both heading in that direction anyways.

            Having an intelligent conversation with these two does not seem to be possible today.

            It’s probably because they’re black.

            Just kidding!

          • mr.wiener

            We were all black originally.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            “Because that would explain why he thinks its OK for black to loot and kill. And yes black people have a disgusting odor that’s a fact not a racist statement.”

            I don’t know who said that but I definitely didn’t.

        • Ron King

          BLACK PEOPLE SMELL BAD. – your post. You deleted it, but it doesn’t change the fact that came out of that little tiny brain of yours.

          Personally, I believe you have a stench too. It’s called shit for brains and it smells horrible. If you live in China, please stay there. The rest of the world has enough problems without adding another ignorant fool who wishes he was white so he could join the KKK.

          • Jin Ch’in

            That’s not true..you could not like a race of people doesn’t mean you wish them harm. Why didn’t you people go back to Africa after they free you from picking cottons?

          • mr.wiener

            Ever heard of Liberia? it didn’t work out so well.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Lol, I don’t remember I have never ever said that.
            BTW I don’t know how to delete my post either.

          • Jin Ch’in

            Forgive him..hes old and might be suffering from dementia

      • Jin Ch’in

        No i was just stating facts..in this story the people was spooked so they brought up water..that’s enough for white folks who come here to earn their living to take pot shoots at these people. And yes blacks were looting after Katrina its was well reported.

  • Ron King

    Who cares? If it’s a surprise to you that Chinese are terrified of their food/drink/air quality, there’s just one thing to tell ya. Welcome to China.

    • Jing Li

      I’ve seen scares in many countries. I don’t use that to defend China, but just to say it’s not isolated to China. The questions are, what are the driving forces for these situations to occur? And what would be a solution to ensure this sort of thing doesn’t happen in the future?

      One could argue censorship in China could help subdue these situations by not letting the people know that these events occur in the first place. The other argument of that could be that censorship is the reason behind these situations, with a huge distrust factor in play.

      It’s easy to complain about it, or say “who cares?” as you do, but what, if any, constructive feedback can you provide?

      Not trying to insult you. Simply trying to generate a constructive conversation.

      • Ron King

        Now THIS is an intelligent response. In fact, you have given me something to think about. Thank you. You’re right. It isn’t isolated to China, nor should I think that way. Solution? Wow.

        I would have to say the policing system (or lack of) would be a large problem as well as education. There is a lot of lawlessness in China, from what I’ve seen. As a student of law, one of the first things I did when I came to China was read their laws. And what I found shocking was that so many laws were being broken in clear sight of the public. I believe that when you create a system of laws then choose not to enforce them, it creates immoral behavior.

        As for how this tainted stuff gets in the market in the first place. Similar. Law. There are just too many officials that can be bought, and not a sense of right and wrong.

  • Brett

    I guess it’s good that the bridge didn’t fall down…

  • the ace of books

    “cucumbers sprayed with contraceptives so they’re exceptionally straight,”

    I

    I

    guys I got nothin here

    • No one wants to put a long, stiff hard protuberance into their mouths and then find out that its gay. No, since the mid-nineties Chinese farmers have been using contraceptives to make sure locally grown cucumbers are exceptionally straight.

      Local man Mr Wang bristled at the idea of eating a gay cucumber. “I am a man! A straight man! I only eat straight cucumbers! Like me!” said Wang, his mouth crammed to the tonsils with a long, perfectly straight veiny cucumber. As he ate and tears came to his eyes as he peacefully choked in silence, his lunch mate Mr Dong echoed this sentiment. “We are simple, ordinary men. We are not perverts, and neither are our foods!” Mr Dong then held the back of his head and he expertly milked the fresh cucumber juice from the plant as he tickled the beets.

      The “Cucumber-As-You-Are Fair” runs until June 1st.

      • mr.wiener

        Brava!…Bravisimo!! ..You haven’t lost your touch.

  • The Enlightened One

    Actually, I am pretty sure this would probably help the river.

    Due to the pollution the PH level is probably more on the acidic side, and the limestone is a base, which means it would like the PH level to something more neutral like… ACTUAL WATER. You know the Great Lakes?

    They drop limestone in it to balance the PH level… so why are people so dumb?

    Yeah, science is good, yes?

  • The Enlightened One

    You know, I think most foreigners would stop ragging on China quite so much if they (the Chinese) stopped calling themselves “the Heavenly Kingdom” or even “the Middle Kingdom” since it is right next to the Ocean… it is obviously not the Middle Kingdom. The country can be cool and interesting, but “heavenly” is probably the last adjective I would use to describe it.

    • 白色纯棉小裤裤

      The Heavenly Kingdom is a term of self-mockery. Again I find that it is always the case westerners fail to understand chinese humour.

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      Totally disagree, foreigners will never stop ragging on China. They’ll always find something to complain about even if they are treated better than the average Chinese person due to their foreignness. In a way I think it’s cultural and partly just human nature.

  • Foreign Devil

    “When the price of gold dropped a bit, you swept the world buying gold. ” Ok the other panic buying things they did was just uninformed. . .but buying gold when it dropped is actually very very wise. . especially with the risk of real estate bubble in China and worldwide risk of nations like USA and Japan deflating their currencies.

  • Avtomat

    Surely limestone in the water is the least of the safety concerns for drinkable water in this region.

    Perhaps part of this panic is fueled by as a means to distract from other (more relevant) concerns of water pollutants, along with the benefit to the local economy in the region of the increase of bottled water sales.

    Often times, these panics are encouraged somewhat by the government in the US to artificially boost sales. Remember Y2K when the world was supposed to stop spinning and everyone was supposed to buy water, canned food and batteries? Many emergency items were out of stock because of the buying frenzy and what was the result? …an artificial sales boost that they’ll have to wait another 1000 years to hype up again.

  • cnoko.com

    dont have to spend so much on water. just buy a oko water bottle. NASA technology. http://www.cnoko.com

  • Suicidal Tendency

    Actually, they were initially told it was limestone, and no ones worried.
    Then the mayor came out of his house with a glass of water in his hand, that he drank, and promised on his own children’s heads than the tap water is totally safe, and the whole population rushed to the supermarket in panic.

  • anon101

    if only lime was the only problem with the water in china.

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