Woman Attacked for Photographing Person Eating on Subway

A woman is eating grapes in subway

The middle aged woman begins eating grapes.

From Sina:

Pregnant Woman Attacked on Subway For Photographing Middle-Aged Woman Eating Grapes

[September] 24th, the Jiubao Station platform of the Hangzhou Subway was audience to the great chase and battle between two women. Turns out a pregnant woman had seen a middle-aged woman eating continuously in the subway train carriage, gone forward asking her to stop, but the other person wouldn’t listen. So she took out her mobile phone to take a photo intending to expose her on the internet, only for the other party to angrily chase and attack her. This was cast in the same mold as the Wuhan Subway “hot-and-dry noodles” incident, and whether or not it is appropriate to photograph someone to expose them is appropriate once again incited heated netizen discussion.

■ Recounting the scene

Photographing someone eating causes dispute

Zhu Qian (pseudonym), the pregnant woman, recounted the whole story. On the morning of the 24th, she went to work by subway as usual. After getting on the train, she noticed a middle-aged woman next to her eating cookies/crackers, and thus went up to her and asked her to stop. “I very politely said to her that eating isn’t allowed in the subway.” Zhuqian says she’s the “nosy” type so whenever she sees something wrong, she always points it out.

Zhuqian even made a joke at the same time, “Careful, you might get hit/beaten up later.” To her surprise, the middle-aged woman in red leather shoes nonchalantly replied asking, “And are you going to be the one to hit me?” After saying this, she went on eating, even taking out an iPad to use while eating. “I said to her, ‘I wouldn’t hit you, but there are so many people on the train looking at you, it’s rather embarrassing’,” Zhu Qian said. However, the woman ignored her and continued eating. After finishing the cookies/crackers, she began eating grapes, her mouth never stopping the entire way.

After passing two stations, Zhu Qian simply couldn’t bear it anymore and wanted to take a picture to expose it [publicly post it online]. “However, I didn’t plan on photographing her face, just a whole body picture from the back.” When the middle-aged woman arrived at her stop and got off the train, Zhu Qian raised her mobile phone and aimed at the woman but when she pressed the shutter, she was caught by the woman.

“She very angrily charged over, screaming ‘who said you could take a photo’, and even tried to seize my mobile phone,” Zhuqian recalled. She immediately put her mobile phone into her bag so the woman pushed her, and she pushed back.

Here the middle-aged woman became thoroughly enraged. She stretched out her hand to hit Zhu Qian and Zhu Qian ran towards the subway platform. Seeing the woman about to catch her and afraid of the consequences, Zhu Qian ran back into the train car where there were more people. Luckily at that moment, the subway began moving and the middle-aged woman stopped chasing her.

“Only afterwards did I remember I’m already over two months pregnant and this kind of situation is rather dangerous. If something happened, I don’t even know what the consequences would be,” Zhu Qian feared a bit afterwards.

This incident was also exposed in Weibo by several other netizens riding on the same train.

A woman is eating hot and dry noodles

A Wuhan subway passenger eating hot-and-dry noodles unhappy with someone taking pictures unexpectedly dumped the noodles on the person’s head.

■ Related incidents

Netizen had hot-and-dry noodles poured on head

In March of this year, a similar incident also happened in the Wuhan subway where a passenger eating hot-and-dry noodles unhappy with someone photographing her unexpectedly dumped the noodles on that person’s head.

At the time, a young woman was holding and eating hot-and-dry noodles in a the subway carriage and refusing to listen to other passengers. Ms. Ye, who was sitting across from her, used her mobile phone and took a photo of the scene, arousing an fierce reaction from the young woman who then dumped the bowl of hot-and-dry noodles onto her head. Feeling aggrieved, Ms. Ye then posted her bitter experience as well as the young woman’s photo onto Weibo, causing a storm with relevant search results numbering over a hundred of thousand. Tens of thousands of netizens expressed their opinions, with most people condemning the young woman’s behavior, and even some people claiming that they’ll launch a human fresh search on her. Seeing things developing with an unhealthy trend, a Ms. Ye that had already calmed down begged netizens not to publish the young woman’s personal information to avoid causing harm to her. Meanwhile, she also expressed regret for impulsively publishing the the young woman’s photo without first blurring it.

This is the first extreme case caused by persuading others not to eat in the train in three month since No.2 Wuhan subway started to operate. Many netizens appeal everyone comply with social morality and hope embarrassed things like splashing noodles will never happen again.

■ Heated debate among netizens

How to enforce the subway prohibition on eating food

Scallion cakes, leek dumplings… the practically sealed subway cars are filled with undesirable odors during the morning rush hour, leaving many passengers fed up. Recently, the topic of whether or not eating in the subway should be prohibited has received widespread discussion. The recently submitted “Shanghai Metro Management Regulations (Revised Draft)” (amendment draft) has amongst them for the first time a regulation prohibiting eating inside the carriage. According to the amended revised draft, “eating and drinking inside the train car” along with behaviors such as smoking, spitting, urinating, etc. have all been listed as prohibited. Violators will “be subject to corrective action by rail company, with warnings or fines ranging from 50 to 500 yuan.”

In fact, Shanghai is not the first city that plans to implement a prohibition on eating in the subway. Wuhan enacted regulations concerning the fining of eating in the subway last year; Nanjing subway stipulated several years ago that passengers face a 20-100 yuan for eating or drinking in the subway; Shenzhen regulated that eating and drinking inside subway stations will be a 200 yuan fine. As well, foreign countries, including Singapore, America, Germany, etc. all have regulations prohibiting the consumption of food in the subway.

Most netizens think prohibiting eating in the subway by itself is good, but how it should be enforced is a big problem/question. Netizens believe the sense of justice in asking others to stop eating should be affirmed, but whether or not it’s appropriate to take photos and expose [people] remains controversial.

Some netizens believe, to those who don’t listen to persuasion, it’s not going too far to give them dirty looks, and the method of exposing them [publicly shaming them on the internet] is even more effective. However, other netizens believe photographing them and exposing them is not appropriate, and even violates the right of portraiture [control over the use of one’s likeness]. The Hangzhou Subway Operating Company indicates that in this kind of situation, the best thing to do is call the subway department’s hotline and have them come out to handle it.

Combined reports from Xinhua, China National Radio, and Morning Express

(Original title: Pregnant Woman Who Photographed Someone Eating Grapes in Subway Chased and Attacked)

Comments on Sina:

bird政府 [上海]:

Grapes don’t have any undesirable odor, so if they’re eating it, let them. Nor did it say she littered the grape skins, so the pregnant woman was being nosy. And she even cautioned that she’s asking to be beat up. Does that sound like a joke to you? It’s not like she knows you, so who would think it’s a joke?

手机用户 [广东深圳]:

Pregnant and still you took a photo. If she doesn’t hit you, who else would she hit?

手机用户1957767454 [广东广州]:

These psycho pregnant women are the most obnoxious! What the hell does her eating grapes have to do with you? This rubbish pregnant woman must be one of those ugly, poor, and useless women, who can’t marry a rich man and can’t afford grapes herself, so she was jealous of others eating grapes. Rubbish! Rubbish! Don’t think you’re untouchable just because you’re pregnant. If I were to run into her, I too would beat her up!

手机用户 [河南郑州]:

Who do you think you are? What the hell does someone else eating grapes have to do with you? Pretending to be so righteous…go ahead and pretend. Got hit? You deserved it!

手机用户 [浙江杭州]:

In this, when it comes to a country where a majority of people spit and litter garbage wherever they please, I think eating cookies/crackers on the subway really isn’t a big deal.

手机用户 [广东广州]:

So many people cursing [the pregnant woman], must be those who often eat on the subway, afraid of the country enacting policies [prohibiting eating on the subway], and then they won’t dare eat on the subway anymore. What more, most of them must not have any character, nor the guts, and can only go online to show their existence. Sigh, tragic, pathetic.

手机用户 [陕西西安]:

I really dislike people eating things in the subway carriage, filling the entire carriage with an odor. This kind of person is too selfish. Can’t you finish eating before getting in the carriage?

愤而不再青 [浙江杭州]:

What this society lacks is precisely this kind of righteousness/uprightness. What’s sad is that there are this many netizens on the internet denouncing this pregnant woman, approving of this kind of behavior.

smwyywms [北京]:

There are many people who eat on Beijing’s subways. To be honest, 90% of them are migrants [not locals] and they simply don’t regard Beijing as their own home. If you say you will be late, then why don’t you get up 10 minutes earlier? Besides, if it is like this everyday, is it still just an occasional situation? Trains come every 1-2 minutes in the subway, and the platform is such a big place, can’t you just finish eating there and then get on the train? If you just treat Beijing as a tool to make money, a cake to enjoy, capital to show off, then please go home to look after your parents and educate your children. Beijing doesn’t need your contamination and defiling. I love Beijing!

东东为自己带盐 [广东深圳]:

Seeing the comments upvoted to the front [top] surprisingly all agreeing with eating in the subway… picking nose Is it a tragedy of our countrymen or are the water army upvoting maliciously? Come, upvote my post and let’s see if it can surpass theirs or not?

沉默的修理工 [安徽宣城]:

Don’t avoid doing good just because the good is small.

手机用户 [安徽合肥]:

This is just like killing a person with a knife is illegal, but killing a pig with a knife is normal. Affecting others is what is wrong, but I don’t see how eating grapes affected others here.

Lucifer_Paradise [天津]:

…Not allowed to eat on public transportation? And it’s a basic/common regulation internationally? Did your family make this regulation? What about those trains, planes, or ships that provide food themselves? If we’re just talking about the subway, then we should see whether the Hangzhou subway really has “no eating allowed” expressly stipulated before commenting. Otherwise, don’t always always bring up “international turtle buttocks [a homophone for “regulations”]”.

手机用户 [河南郑州]:

Pregnant and still so nosy/meddlesome, what smell do cookies and grapes have? Do you have nothing better to do? You deserved to be hit! ANd you even be careful of being hit, does that sound like a joking? It immediately sounds like a threat! You should’ve been beaten up the moment you said this and you still have the nerve to expose [the incident]…

手机用户 [天津]:

Because people like you who deserve to die are too many.

手机用户 [广东湛江]:

Don’t think you just because you have a mobile phone that you can take pictures as you please. You can use your mobile phone to photograph scenery as you please and no one will care, but you can’t take photographs of other people as you please violating their individual rights. Eating in public places is not right, but you can only admonish them or inform the management to come handle it. Wantonly infringing on [other people’s] individual rights is just asking for a beating.

免得你们不认识我 [浙江杭州]:

Do cookies have an odor? Do grapes have an odor? You TM have a dog’s nose?

手机用户 [广东惠州]:

Why are there so many nosy meddling busybodies in the world?

手机用户 [浙江杭州]:

What business is it of yours if someone else is hungry and eats something? If you can’t deal with it, then just walk away. You deserved being hit for not minding your own business. Idiot.

手机用户 [广东湛江]:

There are so many people in the comments who don’t even know the basic/common international regulation of not allowing the eating of food on public transportation. We can see why the whole world looks down upon Chinese tourists.

What do you think?

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  • Archie

    Something about sour grapes…

    • willie miller

      Or the grapes of wrath…

      • Probotector

        What’s eating Gilbert Grape

        • mr.wiener

          Planet of the grapes.

          • Claude

            The grape escape.

          • Claude

            The grape of Nanjing.

          • willie miller

            All creatures grape and small

          • willie miller

            The central character in grape expectations was called Pit

  • claude

    Agree with the Chinese comments for once.

    • winterbitten

      Which comments? The one saying she wasnt causing the problem? Or the ones saying eating shouldn’t take place?

      I don’t like the no eating rule but I can understand how it’s easier to say don’t eat on the subway rather than list all the things that are not to be eaten. That said, if it’s fairly obvious that the person is not causing a problem then don’t make a fuss.

      People have the balls to say they don’t want to get stuck in a carriage with someone eating instant noodles because of the smell, but are willing to sit in restaurants and cars with people smoking and no air ventilation and look at me funny for complaining about the situation? Or worse, when someone’s invited to my apartment and after telling them not to smoke they still do so anyway like I was just teasing them.

      • Probotector

        How hard is it to follow the rules?!

        • B*tches, Leave

          *you don’t have to, because you a very special person, all others are stupid, in fact those rulers are made for them, but not for you* …

        • Zappa Frank

          sincerely on this point i feel like chinese. ok maybe it’s forbidden, but as long you don’t bother anyone it’s ok. i dislike more people that pretend to be bothered by something you’re doing. In the article it’s said she was eating some crackers, some grapes, not that she was eating a dinner… To be disturbed by someone who is eating some grapes it means that you want to feel disturbed, even more if you first try to intimidate her saying “someone may beat the shit out of you..” (for some grapes??!!) and then you take some pictures..

          • Probotector

            I suppose it works both ways. Pedantry is a particularly annoying thing, especially when it’s all about enforcing pointless rules just for the sake of it, and in this case, perhaps it wasn’t so bad. However, this story highlights the many other instances of rule-breaking that go on in China that are more serious, not to mention how we as foreigners would feel/be treated in a similar situation.

          • radbab

            the problem in China seems to be that if rules and policies are enforced they’re enforced no matter what, with absolute disregard to common sense. And then there’s the other opposite, rules not enforced at all. There often doesn’t seem to be any reasonable middle ground.

  • Germandude

    Eating in a train/metro eating grapes is disturbing? How about cutting toenails? Puking? A Kid pissing, allowed by its father? Eating nuts and throwing the shells on the ground?

    That’s Shanghai subway for you. Great entertainment…

    • Alphy

      It really drives me nuts when parent let their kids piss everywhere. And yes even in freaken subway. I was walking home the other day, and this kid was pissing on the sidewalk while her parents watched her. She was at least 10! There was a bathroom in the subway station, directly across the street was a bathroom, and there was plenty of restaurant down the street that I am sure also have facilities. But NO, let the kid piss in the middle of a busy street. They spoke Shanghainese so no Waidei Ren to blame there.

      • B*tches, Leave

        not trying to defend them, but I spoke to some of them and they explain that those public toilets are very dirty … they don’t want their kids use it, better just let it go on the street … selfishness and disregard for other people and public order is very trendy in China, didn’t you know?

        • Probotector

          …and now the streets are as dirty as the toilets. Good one!

          • Germandude

            LOL. I thought the same…

          • 5,000 years of uncivilization

            Ever wonder why streets in Chinese are called “Lu”?

          • Probotector

            lol

        • al

          i have seen some open sewage ditches in poor parts of India (that probably covers most of the country!) i think that’s a great idea for the Chinese cities.. put some open sewage ditches and let them relieve themselves there.

          • Warlock

            There are in Zhuhai.

          • linette lee

            What? sewage ditches? Why China gov’t can’t build more public bathrooms? They can build all those useless buildings, I am sure they can build more public bathrooms. And instead of hiring so many cleaning lady to sweep the streets, they should use them to clean and maintain the public bathrooms clean around the clock. China don’t need so many cleaning workers to sweep the street if people would stop littering. Fine them a big fine for littering. Enforce the law. They can use cleaning vehicle to sweep and wash the streets twice daily. The China gov’t should run a campaign on no public peeing, spitting, littering, eating on no eating areas…all will result a fine. There should be signs everywhere, on TV ad, on billboard, and taught in all schools in China as health education.

          • Alphy

            There are public bathrooms, and usually way more staffed then they are in the States. The problem is people do not respect public properties.

            I’ve been to so call “Five star” bathroom at places like terracotta museum where there were mountain dew color slushy all over the floor. *Hint it was winter time, and some liquid freeze in that color. Poop are usually all over the place in scenic area bathrooms, and no one seem to know how to pee straight. They have signs in bathroom where you pee, that take Armstrong’s quote and put a little twist “One small step for man, a giant step for culture”

        • chandlerpatrick

          As a father, I have a perspective on that. There have been times, where your young child needs to go – badly. You desperatly look around for a public, none to be found. What ya gonna do? You find the most discreet place you can, and let them go… Sorry, that’s the truth. No parent in their right mind is going to willingly let their kid pee the pants – or worse.
          I don’t condone this behaviour, but sometimes you have a situation, and you need to deal with it.
          On the street? find a sewer grate. On the subway? next stop. If the kid is too young to hold it for a few minutes, diapers are great.
          Let’s be honest, (guys especially), after a night of partying, who has not peed outside somewhere?
          Children are not the only people who do this – but parents need to practice a certian amount of discretion.

          • GDFS

            If they are young, then there are these things called diapers. They have been used for many many many many years. Because China still lives with Confucian values I guess it would give them “bad face” to use diapers. And it would also involve using commen sense… Way to difficult for them.

          • Probotector

            No they’re just cheapskates with short arms and deep pockets.

          • Alphy

            I agree, there are times of emergencies. Though what I don’t think is acceptable is when parents condone these behavior even when their old enough to learn. Many believe it is OK for kids to just pee on the street instead of using a bathroom. The example I gave was clear, as there were two bathrooms in direct sight of the child. Just tell them to old it for 1 more min and learn some control, the kid was more than old enough for that.

            If you’ve seen splits pants that kids run around with here in China, you will know what I mean. Parents just say to their kids, just go there by the bush.

          • Jack

            Sure there are emergencies. But somehow these emergencies happen a lot more here than in any other country I have travelled. It is actually not that difficult to tell junior to go to the loo before you leave the house.

      • xuedi

        I once did a countryside long distance bus tour, with one of the bus that got a on-board toilet, but a woman did hold her two year old instead in the passageway and let it pee there (the kid had quite some pressure), the pee flew just between the people to gracefully don’t hit anyone, the smell was increasingly unbearable after 4 hours …

        • Alphy

          Wow… let me guess, no one told her that was unacceptable.

        • B*tchea, Leave

          not the same, but every time I fly domestic, it amuses me at the end of the flight that every seat where a child was sitting is wet … I remember how terrible a flight for me was when I was a kid, but I would never pee in my seat from the pain … are these kids really that weak? do the parents/grandparents pamper them too much?

          • Probotector

            yes they do

    • Boris

      I saw a kid pissing onto a basket of grapefruits today. His mother smiled. They weren’t hers. I didn’t buy one.

      • tootledumb

        Thank you, clearly this is one of Li Bo’s under-appreciated poems.

    • Atlas

      My current girlfriend tried clipping her toenails on the bus a couple weeks ago and I had to tell her to never ever do that again and if I suspect she ever did I’d simply break up with her. Had to stop her littering too once and threaten her so she wouldn’t do it again.

      I still love her though, but I’ll drag her out of this semi-animal state of mind by force if I have to.

      • ex-expat

        lol

      • MrC

        keep up the good work.

      • mr.wiener

        Hmm…. I’d compare it to driving in Chinese traffic. Since they mainly drive like maniacs [by Western standards] it would be insane to drive like a westerner, giving and expecting courtesy. You have to reach a compromise and drive defensively, always expecting the average Zhou to pull in front of you, cut you off and so on, without lowering yourself to their standards.
        As long as your girlfriend doesn’t get pissed off with your expectations her conforming to you standards evertyhing should be ok. If you don’t mind me asking, do you think she is a keeper?

        • Atlas

          To be honest I’m not sure if she is a keeper. I am extremely lucky to have the looks I have and I’m bodybuilding so it’s easy for me to score a hot babe. She’s your average girl who could lose a few pounds.

          The biggest problem I had so far with Chinese women besides hygiene, is that they have more interest in my money than me. Although I’m not cheap, I have no interest in spending my life buying iPads and stuff like that. I’d rather save and invest my money and eventually buy a small house in the countryside (NOT in China. buying an apartment is a big fucking joke tbh).

          I like my girlfriend because she is NEVER asking for stuff and only wants to be by my side and she makes me feel great. The two biggest downsides are sex and the fact she’s not keen about moving back home with me when/if she wants a kid. There’s no way in hell I’m raising a kid in China.

          • Probotector

            “There’s no way in hell I’m raising a kid in China.”

            I’m sure it won’t be so bad.

            I hope…

            Shit.

          • dffd

            you dont even own a single home. haha you broke bitch

          • maybeabanana

            So… you are saying you aren’t sure about this girl and you can score better? You haven’t had serious talks about the future and you are complaining about sex. This sounds like a lose lose to me. A girlfriend IS suppose to make you feel great and want to be around you. Asking for stuff is just an a characteristic of non materialistic money mongering. Bad fish, fishy bad.

          • linette lee

            He and his girlfriend should break up. Sounds like he is not satisfy with her and he feels like he can do better. She should leave him because I am sure she deserves better.

          • Atlas

            I could probably score much better, but then again it depends on what you mean by better. Better looking and better sex? Sure. Better on average? I don’t know. She’s well rounded (and not in a fat way).

            This girlfriend is a bit of an experiment for me. I made sure to pick a girl I wouldn’t usually pick so I would experience a different pattern. As such, I’m letting slide things I normally wouldn’t before.

          • maybeabanana

            Ah see… that’s up to you. We are just looking from outside in. Better is what you are satisfied with. I think relationships by default should have chemistry/sex, emotions, enjoy each other’s company and see it as she is likely the one where I won’t have to look elsewhere type, good communication/telling each other’s intentions of the future like moving across countries and etc., general good characteristics: whatever you deem as a standard such that you won’t be discontent and hiding emotions like quarks that bother you and vast stuff that you can intelligently decide what you can improve or it’s an intrinsic one where no matter what you do, she won’t get better.

            When you put it like an experiment, you are saying to me…it’s a test rather than taking it seriously that you do consider flowing along in hopes of a future. Letting things slide depending on what it is sounds like a big handicap you have given just so you can maintain this experiment. Sorry dude, but Linette sounds like she’s on the ball this time. Unless you intend to and have a plan to marry a Chinese girl or she’s very aware and fully understands all the rules of engagement/consequences (never marrying or whatever, anything else is a deception)..best be telling her the truth…ya heard? I’ve noticed, from anecdotal experience that “girls” in China will tend to think ohhhh he’ll change for me etc etc.. but as you know guys are better off being honest than changing*.

          • Warlock

            have no interest in spending my life buying iPads and stuff like that.
            I’d rather save and invest my money and eventually buy a small house in
            the countryside

            Well said my good man. I’m taken with the idea of buying a small house in italy, but of course, like anything it costs money, esp when dealing with agents and lawyers and so on….bottomless pit?! Many chinese women in their 20s and 30s have NO savings yet have ipads and iphones, they think their husbands should be a bank, again independence, they need to learn.

      • Germandude

        Yeah. As long as she learns out of that, it’s all good.

  • Rick in China

    Idiots who talk about the pregnant woman being too nosy because cookies and grapes don’t have smell. Um:

    Yeah but nobody likes to get grape shit stuck to their shoes or asses, or have crumbs on their pants because some fucking peasant couldn’t obey a common sense rule for 15 minutes without experiencing intense starvation. Not only that, but some people…..oh, in China, MANY people, eat in a very obnoxious and disgusting way – sloshing their mouthes around like a farm animal eating whatever random slop or hay. Sure…the pregnant woman was nosy, but we need more people to stand up against selfish ignorant peasantry behaviour or forever be exposed to it. Go preggers go.

    • Germandude

      Not to mention how it would look like if everybody decided to have his/her breakfast/lunch/dinner in the trains.

      • Kiwi

        I eat on the train all the time,
        I don’t even live in China

        • Ynwaps

          y but we germans are verry careful with eating in trains.

        • Guest

          me too

      • Jin

        a bowl of cereal with milk in the train xp

    • B*tches, Leave

      I can see why the Japanese during WW2 hated the Chinese, not seeing them as humans, but as animals …

      • 用开水烫我!

        i do not see why your mom fucked with beast so you came out.

        • lonetrey / Dan

          i do not see why you talk like beast.

          It’s one thing for someone to make a broad generalized non-serious comment (that I downvoted) about Chinese people…

          But when you respond like this you just make them sound more likely to be correct.

          • 用开水烫我!

            some fuckers if not give him some colors,he really does not know who the fuck he is.

          • lonetrey / Dan

            “Colors”? Err, do you mean “colorful language”? I’m not sure I understand what you mean Eattot :(

            But I understand you’re trying to right the wrongful statement that “B*tches, Leave” made. I usually ignore statements like that because silence does a better job of discrediting someone than anger.

          • willie miller

            ‘I usually ignore statements like that because silence does a better job of discrediting someone than anger.’
            Well said!

      • Atlas

        To be fair, any non-Japanese were regarded as animals, but I guess for most Chinese, their animal-like qualities don’t help

        • 用开水烫我!

          fuck off!
          wish japan sink down asap!and sure,their american daddy wont let them in,once dare to ship to china,killing is waiting on the edge.
          maybe taiwan snobs would take them in,but wait a minute,if japan is over,taiwan wont exist either.good!

          • Atlas

            We all know the truth: For some reason, Japan could take over China without even trying.

            What’s that? China NEVER won a war against Japan by itself? How come such a small island is so much mightier than a huge piece of land? Maybe if the Chinese spent less time crying, pissing and shitting on the streets and men actually tried being men this wouldn’t be the case.

          • 用开水烫我!

            you jap dare to try again now???
            no doubt,no!
            it’s bad time china was ruined by qing dogs,then civil war.
            now,you dare to try again?bomb your tiny island over directly!
            you got rich early because your american daddy broke in early,also your women went out got big money by sex early.that’s why you jap never consider whores that low.
            do not deny it.

          • Atlas

            It’s funny because you are using English words but there is no meaning to be found.

          • Repatriated

            Give “Bunny” a break. She gratiated frum engish skool 1 in class:

          • Warlock

            ROLFMAO!!! Great post!!!

          • Repatriated

            I was actually expecting her to come express herself, as she so eloquently does sometimes, and tell me to go die or something. Haha.

          • Warlock

            Some foreign guy must have really pissed her off once. Perhaps he refused to pay for her yunnan across the bridge noodles?!

          • 101CTS

            You’d be speaking Japanese or German if it wasn’t for the Western front.

          • mr.wiener

            Correction.
            Europe and England would be speaking German if it wasn’t for the Eastern front [Russia]
            , East-Asian and probably Australia would be speaking Japanese if it weren’t for China front.

          • Probotector

            What about America’s contribution?

          • Nessquick Choco

            every civilized nation talk english, don’t they ?

          • Probotector

            Sorry, what?

          • Nessquick Choco

            ehm, nothing special. just. talking. BCD and recovering :-))) .

          • B*tches, Leave

            In a parallel universe we all speak Spanish >:I

          • Nessquick Choco

            In a parallel universe, we don’t use such a low technique for communication, as talking is :-)

          • Germandude

            If I wanted to be mean, I’d say: They delivered the base of the cake to Russia and England, to support their baking activities, and they made sure to arrive on time to enjoy the nicest & biggest piece, once the cutting started. (regarding war against Germany. Against Japan, it’s a completely different story)

            If I wanted to be nice, I’d say: The Americans tried everything in their power to defeat the threats of Nazi-Germany and Japan within the most possible control of saving US lives.

            If I am real: Those times were so screwed up that I am not able to come up with any better solution to how the Americans handled that chaos. All I know is that I am happy that Germany was given a fair chance after World War 2, which cannot be said about the times after World War 1.

          • Probotector

            Agreed.

          • Washington Bullets

            If you’re mean: is it a nice cake? I hope it’s chocolate.

            If you’re being nice: then let’s conveniently just forget about Charles Lindbergh and the story of however Fanta got started

            If you are real: I agree. Fuck France and their overly butthurt-ness following World War I because the Germans were only 17 miles from Paris before we showed up and provided soldiers and a largely unaffected logistical base for the Triple Entente to operate from. Austria started it anyway.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Even if japs defeated the KMT government they would lose mainland to the communists eventually.
            Don’t forget that not many years later, communist China beat the crap out of little japs’s sugar daddy in korea.

          • Probotector

            No China did not defeat the US in Korea you brainwashed idiot. That war never ended.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Yeah the US is never defeated, It just got the shit beat out of it and ran away from the Yalu river to the 38th parallel.

          • Probotector

            I’ll agree that rollback was defeated, but containment was not. South Korea is still free of Communist control, so how can it be a victory?

          • Jahar

            The US went there to stop the North from taking over the South. Since the North failed, logically that would meant the US succeeded.

          • Probotector

            Well the UN forces also wanted regime change in the North, which was a policy known as rollback, but that was defeated after the Chinese pushed us all back into the South, then it became a war of attrition for 3 years until they finally drew up ceasefire. The war itself continues to this day.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Your argument also works if you replace US with China, replace North with US, and replace South with North.

          • Probotector

            “Your argument also works if you replace US with China, replace North with US, and replace South with North.”

            South Korea never tried to take over North Korea. That doesn’t make sense.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            The transformed argument would be

            China went there to stop the US from taking over the North. Since the US failed, logically that would meant China succeeded.

            Seems that logic has failed on you

          • Probotector

            China also went to help the North succeed in conquering the South, which was unsuccessful. Both sides failed, which made it a draw.

          • 用开水烫我!

            the war ended because white devils really had no courage kill naive young chinese guys like chicken any more,it’s too much out of morality.

          • Probotector

            …Whereas Chinese have no problem killing anything? Yeah, I’ll accept that.

          • Nessquick Choco

            oh yeah, you are gay right ? now i understand you … you see boys as nice, shaved sticky slicky chickens :D

          • Probotector

            She’s a girl, dude.

          • Nessquick Choco

            really ? worse for her :D

          • TheSOP

            US killed your pedophile sugar daddy Mao’s son in Korea. PLA got obliterated, they are still shaking in their boots when ever they see a US Marine. And they better keep shaking, USMC doesnt fk around.

          • whuddyasack

            My goodness man. What exactly is it with you and your obsession with the long-dead Mao? It’s really starting to give others the creeps.

          • xiaode

            ….you are right! North-Korea would def. not exist if the Chinese (Mao) would not have supported them massively!

            And they really beat the shit out of the Americans! That´s a fact… or… hmm.. if you focus on the numbers:
            2,5 Mio North Koreans died in this war, around 1 Mio Chinese died in this war… on the other hand they killed 35.000 (= 0,035 Mio) Americans… hmm.. i am not sure if i would use the phrase “communist China beat the crap out of little japs’s sugar daddy…” anymore…

            But ignoring all the facts I am quite sure that all the people in North Korea are really really happy and grateful that they could grow up and live in a country like North Korea… (as I am as a German always wanted to grow up in East Germany… unfortunately fate treated my unkindly) and do not need to live in such a sad place like the South. Seriously… who want´s to live in South Korea if you can have so much fun in the North… hmm.. ok, after the war around 4.5 Mio North Koreans who left their country must have seen that differently… but that´s a fact.. so that doesn´t count….

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            I feel that there is no need to read the rest of your comments after seeing “1 million Chinese died in this war”.

            Next time get the numbers right before you call it “fact”.

          • Nessquick Choco

            you call your chinese woman whores ? nice. try to call that way my wife. Your ass will recognize, what a medieval was …

          • 用开水烫我!

            ?????who is your wife???
            and i ever mentioned anything personal????

          • Nessquick Choco

            dont mind …

          • 用开水烫我!

            your wife is jap????or whatever?
            you want me to call her a whore????
            fuck off!

          • Nessquick Choco

            Nope, sure I do not want you do that.
            I just let you stop barking and whining in that mad way. Done.

          • 用开水烫我!

            fuck off!
            you just looking for insult here!

          • Nessquick Choco

            Really ? why you use such a ugly language ? what is the mean ?

          • Repatriated

            “that’s why you jap never consider whores that low.
            do not deny it.”

            You do realize that there’s a whorehouse on just about every street corner in China, right? No, they don’t really give haircuts or foot massages in there….

          • linette lee

            Maybe you should spend less time raping women that will help you too. Your small little sick twisted mind.

          • schulz

            ignorant!

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasions_of_Korea_(1592%E2%80%9398)

            Date1592–1598

            Location: Korean Peninsula

            Result:Strategic Korean/Ming Chinese victory;

            Withdrawal of Japanese armies

          • Atlas

            So the Chinese didn’t do it by themselves. Seems I was right.

          • schulz

            What’s more:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baekgang
            Battle of Baekgang:
            Date: August 27–28, 663
            Location: Lower reaches of the Geum River, Korea
            Result:Decisive Tang China and Silla victory.

          • Jahar

            yeah! 1350 years ago!

          • Repatriated

            It always amazes me when a local goes on and on about the strength of China’s military. I mean, yes they now have a cruise sh…err…old carrier, but haven’t even fully trained pilots to land on it yet. That fecking carrier would be like target practice for a Japanese naval fleet. It would be sunk so fast that the Japanese would be scratching their heads wondering if they should reload or not. Might as well just yell “pull” and fling a clay pigeon out there. Japan is not a force to be screwed around with. Their navy is very experienced…and it wouldn’t exactly be their first time to the rodeo.

          • lonetrey / Dan

            “Taiwan snobs”? Ha! Takes one to know one, right?good!

          • linette lee

            I love Taiwan. <3 I know few people who are HK-TW married couples. Many like 5 couples.

          • Repatriated

            TW isn’t considered a third world country, so they must be snobs, right?

          • mr.wiener

            I like Taiwan.

          • Caleb

            Taiwan is needed better than mainland China. So many i know living in Shenzhen want to move there to Taiwan.

          • Jahar

            why do you want 140 000 000 million people to die? because of what their grandfather’s grandfathers did? Your own leaders have done worse, and you love them.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            A bad governing is different than a massacre.

            As of today more than one million kids in india die from sickness and starving each year. And by your logic their leaders are worse than the nazis and should be executed immediately.

          • Probotector

            Mao Zedong was responsible for 60 million deaths, 10 X that of the holocaust, yet there is no condemnation or even discrediting of him. Hitler and Mao are two cases of murderous dictators where one ended up losing and the other didn’t. History is written by the victors.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            60 million? Another western idiot brainwashed by its government.

            And the president of India is also a murderous leader by your standard. He has murdered millions of children.

          • Probotector

            Westerners don’t hide facts, we don’t need to. It’s not my fault you devote yourself to a false idol.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            60 million is not a fact but an over-exaggerated bullshit.

            Speak about real facts next time and you won’t be like a brainwashed idiot.

          • Probotector

            Well there’s obviously no getting through to you. Why do you keep coming back here?

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            To see the stupid comments you post and make you post more stupid comments.

          • Probotector

            Oh I see, so anything you disagree with is stupid and brainwashing. You sound like the more brainwashed to me. Even so, it’s kind of a pathetic to come here just to troll. Get a life.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            I disagree because I know its not a fact.
            For example the 60 million deaths,
            I say you are brainwashed because you are not talking about facts but a random number invented by your government.

          • Probotector

            [face palm]

          • Atlas

            If not 60, then 40? 20? How many millions died because of mad dog Mao?

            At least the Japanese invaders were not trying to convince their victims it was for their own good, unlike what Mao and his barbarian sidekicks have done.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            There is no reliable statistical data regarding the deaths over the great leap forward. There are numbers like 17 million and 27 million however all of them are “calculated” base on the population census data. By applying the same calculation one can find that during the great recession of 1930s 8 million Americans are ”killed“

          • Germandude

            Ah! Only between 17 and 27 million died during the great leap forward? Well then, let me join the cheering: All hail to chairman Mao!

          • B*tches, Leave

            guess when millions die one side will call it “the great recession”, but the other “the great leap forward” …

          • TheSOP

            Lets hang Tojo’s poster in Tiananmen, the great square to celebrate mass killers of Chinese!!! Oh better yet lets put Tojo’s face on the 五毛 note so that morons who cant find any better work than posting comments on behalf of the party that killed more Chinese than any other entity in history can praise #2! All hail Mao, All hail Tojo!!!

          • whuddyasack

            Huh?? What are you talking about. Tojo isn’t Chinese so of course his poster won’t be hanged in Tiananmen. Your proposition is as ridiculous as hanging Stalin, Hitler, Tojo or Mao’s portrait on the White House entrance.

          • headcrasher

            Actually it makes a big difference on the number of people died. Since the higher it is the more “bad” the leader is. According to wikipedia the deaths from starvation happened because of his staff transferring wrong information on the situation that time. Also, he did not intentionally kill all those people. It was more due to bad governance. So to compare Mao with a person like Hitler that intentionally try to wipe out people like running a factory is an unfair statement. The only thing China would need to do now is to talk about their past mistakes and put it into discussion.
            Regarding wars and cruelties, that is war. I don’t believe that when America is raiding into Iraq and Afghanistan that they are really nice friendly without killing innocent civilians and having a clean war.
            I think what most people right here about bad china and good “civilized” western country couldn’t be more racist.

          • Washington Bullets

            I don’t know how many it was, but a lot of people died under Mao. The Japanese also killed alot of people. Would it suffice to say that they both were not the nicest of people that the world is probably better off now than it was then, whether it be in the 1930’s or the 1960’s.

          • Warlock

            Let’s get his horrible person banned. Where is the mods?

          • mr.wiener

            User 白色纯棉小裤裤 has not broken any rules he has given as good/bad as he has got. You may not agree with his opinions , but he has the right to express them.

          • Warlock

            Ban the troll!!

          • Germandude

            60 million, 50 million, 40 million, 30 million, 20 million, 10 million, 1 million, 10,000, 100, 10, who cares?

            Kill 1 guy, call him a murderer. Kill 1 million, call him a leader. Let X million die out of starvation, call him the Great leader!

          • TheSOP

            A sanlu drinking idiot who doesnt even know his own history. Good thing there are Western historians who can teach Chinese their own history after the CCP implodes. Your welcome ignorant schmuck.

          • linette lee

            “their leaders are worse than the nazis and should be executed immediately.”

            Yes. They are rich and corrupted. The gov’t party they want to keep the power within their own family and refuse to give up their power. The only reason why people in a country are suffering is because of a bad government. Just like a bad king. Instead of taking care of his people he use them as slaves to make him and his family rich and powerful. A good government is like a good king. Take care of their people and should be fair and just to all concerned.

            As for starving people there is really no reason why annually people starving to death. Even the poorest nation should get fed if their gov’t arranged probably. Millions tons of food thrown into garbage around the world. We are in 2013 and have the technology to transport foods around the world quickly. We have UN and many international organizations. We have telecommunication.

            Government by the people, for the people, shall not perish from this earth.

          • Jahar

            No, that’s your logic, not mine. Find me a leader in India who made 3 or 4 decisions that directly led to the deaths of 60 million of their people. Also, just because bad things happen elsewhere doesn’t justify it here. I also said nothing about executing anyone.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Find me a leader in China who made 3 or 4 decisions that directly led to the deaths of 60 million of their people.

          • TheSOP

            Answer:Mao Zedong and the CCP. Can I get wumao now also?

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            And when you are a leader you are responsible for many things, but you are not doing anything and causing millions to die each year, that’s no different than doing something wrong.

          • Nessquick Choco

            … I will come rip your ass …

          • 用开水烫我!

            go away!
            i never ever wrote anything to you!

          • Nessquick Choco

            are you scared ? That’s fine.

          • 用开水烫我!

            fine Your head!
            i am not scared or whatever,your fucking rude!

          • Nessquick Choco

            I am not rude, my friend. it is you who started. I just try to calm you down and let you shut up your lovely mouth.

          • mr.wiener

            @用开水烫我!@Nessquickchoco:disqus.
            Enough of this please.

          • Atlas

            Please assume your designated position and shout : iya daaaaa ! Sensei, yamete kudasaiiiiiii. Ikuuuuuu!

        • loukas

          The difference between a dog and most Chinese is that a dog. 1) Looks both ways before crossing a street. 2) Tries to get out of the way when a car is coming. 3) A dog will intentionally go to the bathroom in place where others won’t step in it.

      • jin

        Do you have any idea what the japanese did during the ww2? I guess I can also say that what the germans did to the jews was just??? Your comment is just a hate comment, no sarcasm, no criticism, only hatred.

        • loukas

          Do you have any idea what Mao Zedong REALLY did?

          • Probotector

            Yeah, he had sex with 12 year old girls.

          • Repatriated

            and boys….

          • jin

            Mao is a retard, yes he is a retard, a brainless farmer that somehow got control. And the reason for that is because the kuomingtan was too busy fighting thee communist party and not the japanese invaders. So the communist party gained the support from the people. And thats how a retard like mao gained control..

      • mr.wiener

        Note the skilled angler waving his fly over the surface of the water trying for a bite…nothing? …Ahh , he is changing his bait now…and I can see it is the “Japanese lure” he is going to try out.
        What’s that?! the water has been whipped into a a frenzy as the fish try to climb up the bank to bite him.
        The skilled angler always knows the right bait to use.

        • chosan

          more japanese bait for the win!!!! this one is the best bait japan has used thus far. I suggest more of it

          • Middle_Kingdum

            That’s funny!

          • that guy

            largest difference between the German and Japanese atrocities is that the world at large–and I emphasize the word “world”, meaning multiple countries–has welcomed Germany back into the international community. China, meanwhile, likes to maintain its fixation on Japan even though Japan paid dearly for its crimes and went through a thorough reconstruction process like Germany did.

            yeah, you have idiots like the Tokyo mayor (memory serving) and other nationalist nuts talking, but thats just part of the world, same as Europe has its right-wing fascist parties still.

            of course China is flawless and has never committed acts that resulted in millions being killed. China is always in the right

            and in case you’re too ignorant to detect it, that was sarcasm. google it.

          • Probotector

            But everything you use to prove yourself right is thrown out as evil western propaganda, designed to subjugate the Chinese nation, so it’s a no-win scenario.

          • Beef Noodles

            You do realize there’s a reason for that? Do you enjoy talking out of your ass?

            The reason why Germans have been given good graces by the international community is because they have publicly contrite for what they have done. They’ve outlawed Nazism, made it so that the Holocaust is mandatory education for German schoolkids, and established memorials. Meanwhile the Japanese, while they have been one of China’s largest foreign aid donors, have been very reticent to publicly apologize for what they’ve done. Furthermore, their atrocities in world war 2 are often glossed over in secondary education and you have heads of states visiting memorials to wartime criminals.

            For those reasons I’ve given above plus the fact that the CCP encourages anti-Japanese sentiment as an outlet for public frustration is why Chinese are so stubborn about what the Japanese have done.

            This whole forum is disgusting. Drunk Idiot laowai’s who failed in their own countries arguing against naive/ignorant Chinese and their pseudo keyboard patriotism. Whoever circlejerks the hardest wins.

          • Probotector

            Then why are you here?

          • Warlock

            made it so that the Holocaust is mandatory education for German schoolkids

            Why should it be? Why shouldn’t the holocaust be re-examined and looked at again? Germans do not equate the nazis of the past.

          • moody

            Not sure if ironic or just a plain moronic

          • whuddyasack

            A good post, but unfortunately, it’s all drunk laowais talking. I wouldn’t say the whole forum is disgusting, but a good chunk of this forum really is.

            There are some naive/ignorant Chinese as you put, but these make a tiny minority and are often diaspora populations. Haven’t really seen PRC nationals and don’t really know many regulars. I agree about the circle jerking and whoever does it hardest wins. Unfortunately, as you can see, it’s only the non-Chinese doing the circlejerking, outnumbering and “ganging up” on the lone Chinese that even dares to talk up to them.

            So they win, but only because there isn’t anyone else. They are as much losers as they are winners.

          • Probotector

            Wow, look who’s been unbanned! How’s the Asian nationalism going? So, if guilao, laowai and yangguizi isn’t racist, then can I wantonl call Chinese Chinkies, zipperheads and Zhongguo guizi with impunity?

          • lol don’t forget about 东亚病夫 lol

          • whuddyasack

            The two sets of terms are barely comparable. Laowai means foreigner and is used the same way as the word gaijin. It is used for ALL non-Asian foreigners, blacks, whites, hispanics, arabs.

            As for the wanton use of “racist terms”, who said you cant use them without impunity? It’s a fact that unlike Blacks, Mexis and Whites, it’s A-OK to publicly insult Asians (not just Chinese). A White American guy even confirmed this. I’m not at all bothered since I’ve learned to embrace how “special” we are and accept the fact that all the others have “special needs”.

          • Warlock

            oh the gawds, the cleavage…..my oh my

          • mr.wiener

            That’s jail bait.

          • whuddyasack

            Hahaha, why do the windows have grills?

        • jin

          If hes using that comment to bait chinese people to get angry at him, then he chose a good one. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4M1c-ylUd6A these are only the few things the japanese did to the chinese, its alot worse than what happend to the jews. And people wonder why some chinese hate the japanese so much? Actually they are not angry about this, they are angry about how japan never apoligized about their warcrimes and still honor these warcriminals as national heros. So yes it is a good bait. But its fked up

          • wingedgenius

            *Worse* than what happened with the Jews?! Seriously?!

            If anything, the treatment of both the Chinese by the Japanese and the Jews by the Germans were equally disgusting during WWII.

          • Repatriated

            All of this happened like 80 years ago. Get over it already.

          • calmpalm

            C’mon,ask your darling Jews first to get over what happened to them exactly the same 80 years ago.

          • jin

            1945 is not 80years ago, go back to school. The problem is not what the japanese did, the problem is how they never apologized and even builded a shrine to honor these warcriminals.

            @wingedgenius
            If you know what happened in nanking, what the japanese did, can you still say the same? Few hundreds were beheaded because their officer had a bet to who can behead the most. 20.000 female from 4years to old woman were raped, and most killed by ramming a bamboo or their sword in their pussy. If their family did anything while their daughter, wife, mothers were being raped and killed, they get shot. They executed 200.000-300.000 civilians/surrendered soldiers by the most cruel ways you can think. And many more inhumans acts. These were witnessed by westerners. Even the nazis couldnt take the cruelty and with the americans they helped the chinese from being inhumanly murdered which happens daily.

          • Jahar

            you really don’t know what happened to the jews, do you?

            nice splitting hairs over a couple years. the nanjing massacre was in 37. 76 years ago.

          • jin

            I know what happend to the jews, they got killed by firing squad and gas chambers. I live next to germany so I know more about it than you, since its in our history lesson.
            and I apologize if you biitches get mad over what I said.
            but there are shiits that you cant say and one of that is what biitches leave said. And it got 20 upvotes, which shows alot about how some of you hate china, yet stay in china? Or is it just because youre a racist? How would you react or upvote me if I say I like how hitler and nazi killed all those jew because they are inhuman???

          • Probotector

            Yeah, everyone who posts something you don’t agree with is wrong, ignorant, racist and a hater. Sure, keep telling yourself that. I told you already in another post that criticism is made where is is deserved, but OH NO! to you that’s “insecurity”.

            The truth is, you are the one who is insecure; insecure that no one stands by your liberal mantra, that you were indoctrinated to believe was universal truth, and now you’re simply assigning blame. It doesn’t seem to ever cross your mind that if so many people disagree with you, then maybe you’re the one at fault.

            You really must come to terms with a simple concept:

            Sometimes you are wrong.

          • jin

            so when someone post this: “I can see why the Japanese during WW2 hated the Chinese, not seeing them as humans, but as animals” its not a hate/racist comment??? and also disrespectfull to the deads. Hahahahaha the insecure Promasturbator is calling someone else insecure. How would i be insecure? tell me. I never defended the chinese for what they did, did I? I defended them for unjust hate comments from the likes of you and that malebiitch. guess what? It got 22 upvotes now :) and I bet youre one of them. so many people! wow 5-10 people orso disagreed with me??? the inhuman acts of cruelty that japan has done to asia is not something you can make up for it with some simple apology in a speech. 1068 warcriminals were enshrined in yasukuni shrine, 14 A Class warcriminals listed as gods and are visited and honored their prime minister/ politicians. In 1954-1958 Japan released the A+B+C class warcriminals from prison. How is that a Apology?

          • Probotector

            yap yap yap

          • jin

            Nothing to say to the truth? yep yep

          • Probotector

            The question is, why do you care so much about defending China?

          • jin

            If the person that agree with that comment isnt a racist then what is he? Calling the chinese inhuman is not racial bias? It seems more like to me that youre protecting that comment. I would say something to anyone that make comments like that, whether its about the chinese japanese koreans black or white. You dont see me say how japan deserved to be nuked for pearl harbor do you? I dont hate the japanese, people say japan has apologized and yes they did apologize with words in a speech, but if they are truelly want to apologize for that, they would listen to the victims, they did not remove the thousand warcriminals and some a class warcriminals from the shrine like requested by the koreans chinese australians. sorry if I insulted you in any way.

          • Jahar

            I don’t hate China, but I hate idiot racists.

          • moody

            Living next to germany does not make you an expert on the hollocaust.
            my god, the things you write sometimes.
            as for what happened to jews during the second world war, it was far worse than what you describe
            medical experimentations, mass extermination.
            what is your purpose in comparing attrocities that civilian populations suffered.
            the Chinese suffered terrible things too, nobody is saying otherwise

          • Kiwi

            Exactly, the people actually involved in those crimes are close to dead. When they kick the bucket you can kick their graves in your spite.

          • Probotector

            Have the Chinese ever apologised for their crimes post-war? No, so stfu.

          • Jahar

            you are one of those who ignores the apologies of the past, then when you hear about them you say they aren’t enough, right? And you intentionally misunderstand that temple as worshiping them as heroes. it’s essentially a tombstone for 3 million dead people. yeah, some were war criminals, but millions of others werent.

          • B*tches, Leave

            Ain’t worth it, Jahar, you’ll have more luck convincing a Muslim that his god is false …

          • Tony Heaney

            would you like to rape them asin babies too? you sink cunt

          • Repatriated

            I can’t help but wonder if the real deep-seeded reason for the hatred is actually envy.

          • Taoran

            Actually, Japan has apologized about their war crimes several times, for example Prime Minister Tomiichi Murayama in 1995, or PM Ryutaro Hashimoto in 1997, or Junichiro Koizumi in 2005.

          • Nessquick Choco

            hell, do you think that only jews was under the fire during the WW2 ? bite yourself please, or I will come …

          • Probotector

            …all over his face?

          • Nessquick Choco

            come, not cum :))))

        • mr.wiener

          You aren’t.

        • whuddyasack

          Thanks for pointing it out Wiener. It’s a tired old tactic that I’ve noticed in most blogs about China/Japan/Korea. Make a reference to “war atrocities” and either:

          a) say it never happened (taking the Japanese ultra-nationalist route) or

          b) make a mockery of the victims (voyaging into territory where the most disgusting of losers dwell)

          Word has it that prior to the explosive interest in East Asia (circa 2008), not that many people were aware or bleated endlessly about conflicts in East Asia. Back then, those people were known as weaboos (still are) they hated Southeast Asians (still pathetically sad). Back then, they thought E Asians got along. Sadly, I was born a bit late, ever since I first used the internet, I’ve been thrown head first into “let’s oil and fan the Oriental wok” period. That said, the attitudes and negativity of many Chinese and Japanese aren’t helping either. Loathe as I to admit, I think my side is actually more at fault. We as a people really need to worry about more important things.

          P.S. that angler wasn’t skilled. He’s just passing off his pre-bought marlin as the prize he reeled in.

      • chosan

        biEcth japanese will get the nuking-rioting-chinese pissing on u of a lifetime. And i mean a tortoise’s lifetime not a human life span

      • schulz

        I warn you. Some Chinese people may be uncivilized, but that makes no excuse for any Nazi massacre.

      • schulz

        or propaganda

      • linette lee

        I guess those non Chinese people in HK were animals too, cause the Japanese killed and raped them also. Japanese killed half of the HKese population chinese or nonchinese in 3 yrs.

        Massacre and Atrocities in Hong Kong during WWII

        Hong Kong was a British colony before and after WWII, but from 12/25/1941 to 8/15/1945 when Japan surrendered, Hong Kong was under the control of Japan. This article recounts the massacre and atrocities committed by the Japanese troops during those three years and eight months of occupation of Hong Kong. The purpose of recounting these events is not to bash Japan or to generate hatred of Japan, but to make sure that we do not forget the lessons of history so that similar events do not occur again in the future. This is especially important taking into consideration that Japan’s current prime minister recently denied any major atrocity committed by Japan during WWII and Japan’s school textbooks have been rewriting history.

        Japan started its invasion of Hong Kong on 12/8/1941 (or 12/7/1941 U.S. time, the same day Japan attacked Pearl Harbor). Great Britain surrendered Hong Kong to Japan on Christmas day, 12/25/1941, on a day that the people of Hong Kong called Black Christmas.

        Although what happened in Hong Kong during this period pales in comparison to what happened during the 1937-38 Nanking Massacre, a great deal of massacre and atrocities were committed by the Japanese soldiers against the Chinese, British, Canadians, and other people living in Hong Kong at that time.

        As many as 10,000 women were raped in the first few days. Tens of thousands, including women and children, were killed. Many more starved to death. Many parts of Hong Kong were ransacked and burned, and many residents left, deported, or escaped to even famine/disease-ridden areas of mainland China. Basically a reign of terror ruled Hong Kong during those three years and eight months, resulting in Hong Kong’s population of 1.6 million shrinking to 600,000 at the end of that period.

        The atrocities were not just against the Chinese, but also British, Canadians, and people of other nationalities. For example, at a hospital for injured British soldiers, the Japanese soldiers slaughtered 170 recuperating soldiers and a few hospital staff. The eyes, ears, noses, tongues, or limbs were cut off on many victims. Seventy of the soldiers were killed with swords while they were lying in bed. The hospital’s seven nurses were raped, sometimes while lying on top of the bodies of murdered British soldiers. Several of the nurses were also slaughtered, and one of them almost had her head severed. All these actions were in complete violation of the 1864 Geneva Red Cross Agreement (which was the beginning of the establishment of the International Red Cross) regarding the treatment of prisoners-of-war.

        After 18 days of fighting and bombing and the British surrendered on 12/25/1941, many people came out of hiding in the bomb shelters. Upon seeing many mean-looking Japanese solders with guns pointing at them, some ran either out of fear or not being able to understand the Japanese command to stop, they were shot dead on the spot. Some children cried and before the parents could stop their crying, the children were shot and killed.

        Some of the atrocities even continued after Japan surrendered on 8/15/1945. For example, during 8/16-26/1945, a small garrison of Japanese soldiers in Silver Ore Bay in Lantau Island (where the new Hong Kong international airport is currently located) went berserk and slaughtered, robbed, and burned almost everything in sight, thus almost obliterated several small villages in this bay.

        Many innocent people were also killed due to arbitrary and unjustly enforcement of curfews and other rules. For example, one time an eight-year old son, upon seeing his mother and a younger sibling coming home, ran across the street to meet them. All three were shot and killed due to a curfew forbidding crossing of that street. Often the rules were purposely left ambiguous or not well publicized, so that the Japanese soldiers could impose severe punishments, including killing, upon the violators.

        While facing this reign of terror, many people also performed heroic acts. For example, in a hotel at Shallow Water Bay, Japanese soldiers found several seriously injured British soldiers and planned to kill them. A foreign nurse stepped in front and said if you want to kill them, you have to kill me first. On that occasion, the Japanese soldiers retreated. Dr. Hu, a doctor and head of a public hospital, out of his own pocket provided food and medicine to many orphans, and also provided free medical treatments to these orphans. Without his help, many of these orphans would have starved to death. There was also a British underground organization in southern China, called B.A.A.G., which helped over 600 alliance (including British and Canadian) soldiers escaped to safe territories, and over 120 Europeans and 550 Chinese escaped from Japanese controlled territories in Hong Kong and China.

        Instead of learning from history to avoid repeating this kind of massacre and atrocities, unfortunately the Japanese government is in denial of their existence. They publicly proclaim that these events were fabricated in spite of so many eyewitness accounts, and they have been rewriting history in their school textbooks. Their senior government leaders also pay regular homage to the Japanese shrine where many of the war criminals were buried.

        It is important for peace-loving people of the world to remember the following quotes:

        “Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it” – 19th/20th century American/Spanish philosopher George Santayana

        “All that is needed for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing” – 18th century Anglo-Irish statesman and philosopher Edmund Burke

        http://www.dontow.com/2007/04/massacre-and-atrocities-in-hong-kong-during-wwii/

        • Probotector

          Could this be any longer? People die, we all deserve it. Period.

          • Atlas

            I especially like it when Chinese tell us Japanese textbooks are rewriting history. ahahahaha.

          • linette lee

            ahahha…must be funny for morons.

          • linette lee

            You deserve it.

          • Probotector

            …and you don’t?

          • jin

            Mr. Protector of racist comment why is it that whenever someone comment to that racist/hate post, youre the first person to comment? You make it sound like what that biitch said is not a problem. And mod why isnt it removed

          • Probotector

            Again with the racism, it’s like that’s the only problem in the world! Tell me who has said anything racist against Chinese on this forum since this article was posted? Why would the mods remove this? It’s not offensive. Also, the mods only respond to you if you talk to them directly. Just thought you should know.

          • jin

            not seeing them as humans, but as animals 

            if that is not a racist comment then what is it?
            Let me change that sentence for you.

            I know why the nazi hate the jew, because they are not humans but animals.

            I know why the black were enslaved, because they are not human but animals.

            if that is not racist comment then something must be wrong with your brain.
            Eattot is a troll and have mental issues, better leave her alone. As for bear, I have no reason to comment on something as guilao, oh wow that is such a bad bad racist word! Do you feel butthurt from that word? But when someone says that an entire ethnicity is inhuman and are animals or less than animals from some comments, that is something I will not let pass by.

          • Probotector

            I’ll accept “Bitches Leave’s” comment is racist.

            However:

            “Eattot is a troll and have mental issues, better leave her alone. As for bear, I have no reason to comment on something as guilao, oh wow that is such a bad bad racist word!”

            Nice glossing over why you’re a hypocrite there. Why don’t you just say “they’re not racist, because only white people can be racist”. It’s pretty much the same difference.

            btw, guilao is a bad racist word yes, it’s the Chinese equivalent of “the ‘N’ word”.

          • jin

            “Tell me who has said anything racist against Chinese on this forum since this article was posted?”

            And now! you admit that his comment is racist??
            oh, I didnt know that you think of that word as the N word. Guess I learned something then.

          • Probotector

            Yeah. I guess I can admit when I’m wrong, but… YOU can’t, so there really is no hope for you.

          • jin

            I guess I can also admit that im soo soo sorry for not defending you when you got called guilao.

          • whuddyasack

            Jin, while that comment can be considered racist by all accounts it’s important to understand the intent behind the message and also the mental state of the person saying it. Yes, it’s hateful but just remember, the person saying it is a distasteful troll who’s really tryin’ to strike a nerve. Knowing and seeing the detestable filthbag for what it is would help you to “let the garbage rot in their own grime”. :)

            In real life, you’d avoid such people and maybe talk smack about them with friends, right? Best course of action here.

            Btw, I don’t think laowai and guilao or hongmao or angmohkou (any Singaporeans here to correct me?) are racist terms. In the same vein I don’t see gaijin or foreigner a racist term.

          • mr.wiener

            Racist comments are not outlawed in the comments policy. This means 2 intransigent twits can rail against each other , measure penises with cherry-picked historical irrelevancies and ignore what the other person is saying.

            But I really wish you’d both give it a rest.

        • whuddyasack

          Very long post Linette but point taken. If the Japanese killed the Chinese because they were animals (more like resistors) then that would make the “Europeans” even lower than animals since those were the main foes of the Japanese and in their own words “they were trying to help China and the rest of Asia”. That would make the Germans whom the Japanese drove out in WW1, the Dutch who the Japanese and Indons fought against and killed, the British, the Canadians killed in HK and the Americans animals.

          By the way, here’s something that I learnt recently. There’s a couple of words used contemptibly by the Imperial Japanese that targeted Europeans/White people that weren’t used for other Asians. So yeah, from my perspective it’s kind of amusing how some people try to bring up some distant past to put down another ethnic when back then, but pretend not to realize that back then, they weren’t looked on highly.

          But then again, they say when your own dirt cannot be swept under a rug, the next best thing is to pretend it’s not there.

    • slob

      I think preggers is a tard to be honest.

      “Only afterwards did I remember I’m already over two months pregnant and this kind of situation is rather dangerous.”

      Only after I bugged another passenger, which is a common occurence for me, did I take out my phone which I knew plain well would cause the other person to get upset or at least land me into an argument or physical altercation causing stress, and only after all of that did I remember that I have a baby inside of me that I’m supposed to protect from all possible dangers.

      Nosy, disregard for a baby, taking photos of strangers…she deserves a slap in the face just as much as the one eating. Don’t get me wrong…the pig stuffing her face is a shit for brains too, but LiLlPregZ ain’t no angel herself.

      • Rick in China

        I’m not saying her actions or reaction weren’t retarded – but lets pretend she’s not pregnant. If she were a man, lets say. The actions of saying “dude you can’t fucking do that here, ok? Look at the signs. Think about it for a SECOND – there are other people in the world.”

        From that stance – I stand by the last phrase… Go preggers go.

        The unfortunate thing isn’t that she did what she did – it’s that nobody else did, and she was left alone trying to moralize an unfortunate and beyond redemption ‘old generation’ peasant who would never listen to reason. It wasn’t pregz responsibility – yet society let her down, noone else took the reigns, and pregz stepped in. She’s a careless idiot too, no doubt, but at least one with somewhat standing in this particular situation.

        • moody

          She sure is a careless idiot
          it’s partly the hormones and partly as sense that nobody would touch a preg woman
          dangerous cocktail right there i ll tell you
          some mother with what seemed to be a 4/5 month old straped around her chest in a baby carrier started an arguement with me out of nowhere like 6 month ago.
          she was extremely agressive.
          i simply told her to fuck off and that she was extremely lucky i was not an insane crazy guy
          stating shit with a stranger while carrying the most important and fragile of all things is not only irresponsible
          it s plain stupid and retarded

        • maybeabanana

          She’s not moralizing anything. Someone’s right to eat is not in anyway against morals. It may be a disrespectful and disregard for everyone else but its not an issue of moral but rather just poor character and behavior. You are going to say it is morally wrong to eat? Are you going to send her to Mr. Policeman? I don’t think that its principally right or wrong to disobey a rule.

          • Rick in China

            Educate yourself. Morality is “from the Latin moralitas “manner, character, proper behavior””

            Thanks, come again.

          • maybeabanana

            You are right about that where the word comes FROM. I am thinking of morality in relation to ethics. Then again.. she didn’t steal lie or cheat. Maybe cheating the subway rules?

            Moral as defined:
            – a person’s standards of behavior or beliefs concerning what is and is not acceptable for them to do.

            – concerned with the principles of right and wrong behavior and the goodness or badness of human character.

            Who’s to say eating in a subway is morally wrong if it’s based upon a person’s idea. It’s not in her moral. A rule does not judge morality and what’s a rule without consequences. Unless you are a grade A character who won’t break any rules… and really is pure, moral maybe a deep word used. Maybe you should educate yourself on not being a sheep in following all the rules that doesn’t always work in sense that people will see the light. If it is such a great rule, intelligent people will see the reasons behind it and do accordingly. Why don’t try harder to pose one woman’s drama sucking attitude to grabbing justice?

    • chosan

      racist against chinese all over the world are people like you. You and traitor chinese will get yours in the next world upheaval

    • Warlock

      The real problem is, it is a sad culture of mind your own business in lala land. Nobody ever steps up or dares to help others out, and righteousness is taken as being interfering or being a tall poppy, such is the state of “qing ruan ya ping”. A pregnant woman can be bullied because she is considered in a weakened state, bet miss high heels wouldn’t have done this to some 6 ft tattooed skinheaded gang banger mafia type?

      • Rick in China

        Very true. I find it extremely disturbing that a woman would hit a pregnant woman, it’s almost worse than domestic abuse….like, seriously, what the fuck. I’m kinda surprised there’s not more commentary on that fact. She’s probably a bitter old hag, barren herself and jealous of the fact she can’t push her busted face DNA down the line.

    • Bear

      You seem to have a lot of problems in China. How about you take your ugly slanty eyed wife and your chink mutt kids back to your own country?

      • mr.wiener

        That is trolling and disruptive. I’m deleting this comment. If you post one similar to it I’m banning you.

        • Probotector

          Toilet cleaning is an ugly business, but you do it with fortitude and grace. jia you!

        • Probotector

          He’s continued to troll this guy. Seriously, can you ban him already?

        • Rick in China

          He’s clearly butt hurt and projecting. I don’t take insult on here – especially from those who make it abundantly clear that they have failed in real life, and need to jump down the throat of anything potentially resembling a comment that may be directed at their general social grouping, in this case, peasantry (in character, in the least). Actually, I wasn’t saying “Chinese are peasants”. I was saying this particular middle aged woman was acting like a peasant, and the one with more of an appropriate standing (preggers) tried to put her in line. They are both Chinese.

          My wife does have (I can’t see the comment, trying to remember from mail?) ‘slant’ eyes? Amusing he’s mocking Chinese, but appears to be Chinese himself….or herself, comments imply a very sandy vagina.

          Either way, whatever, couldn’t care less :)

    • Alex

      Yeh “Only afterwards did I remember I’m already over two months pregnant,” understand her plight but she needs to grow up, imagine someone sitting right next to you suggesting you’re going to get hit (not by her cos no balls) if you keep eating and then taking a picture, brought it on herself.

    • Bear

      Your wife is a peasant. Maybe you should watch who you insult, gwailo trash.

      • Probotector

        @mrwiener:disqus You seriously tolerate this?

        • Bear

          And you think the Chinese are going to tolerate some gwailo scum talking shit about Chinese people, calling them dirty peasants?

          You westerners are hypocritical garbage.

          By the by, you criticize Mao Zedong, but how about you look at the crimes of your own countries. American genocide of the native americans, slavery, genocide of the jews, colonization, imperialism, spreading dictatorships across the world, killing of millions through the use of chemical weapons and nuclear weapons across Asia.

          Look at your own disgusting immorality and crimes before lecturing other peoples you insignificant insect.

          • Probotector

            Lol you are so angry.

          • Bear

            You are on a website about China. Westerners are not welcome.

          • Probotector

            Lol, you idiot, this is a forum designed for expats in China. Why do you think articles and comments are translated into English?

            Look, I said it to 白色纯棉小裤裤, and I’ll say it to you. Let us know when you’ve killed your first white boy.

          • Bear

            It’s not designed for expats at all. It’s designed for any non chinese and offshore chinese who want a look inside chinese internet culture.

            You whites are so intellectually dull, no wonder china and asians are dominating the world.

            When did anybody say they wanted to kill whites? We are civilized, unlike you. We will just take the reins of the world economy off you and you can all die of old age.

          • Probotector

            So if it’s designed for “any non Chinese”, why did you say “Westerners are not welcome”?

            Everything else you said makes you sound disillusional.

          • Zappa Frank

            patetic. You live by our culture, your is gone years and years ago, everything in your life has westener origin. You use daily our products, invented by westeners, you try to imitate our culture in every possible way (loosely) and recently even want to eat like westeners… you do not dominate anything.

          • Bear

            Not at all, western companies across the world are scrambling to try to understand and appeal to the chinese market. Barbie thought it would be a good idea to sell western style dolls by opening a massive store in central Shanghai. It was a complete failure, and barbie is long gone from China. The original Chinese confucian culture is still much alive. Western degeneracy, homosexuality and feminism will never take root.

          • B*tches, Leave

            you are so cute :) like a puppy dog that thinks that his little box is the whole world

          • Nessquick Choco

            Yet audi and crapy pizza stays in your mind …

          • Zappa Frank

            let me ask you.. where car was invented? computers? phones? tv? and so on? Where was invented the division of the years in months, weeks of 7 days? newspapers? your clothes are western-style? your shoes? The organization of schools? of offices? of works? come on, everything, everything is after western culture, you can deny as you want, but your chinese culture is long time gone and hybridized. Chinese live more and more a western life and more they have money and more they want to live a western life, in western houses, with western food, wearing western clothes, struggling so much to be western-like that from outside it’s even ridiculus. Confucian culture alvie? most of chinese do not live by confucian culture anymore, most of them barely know who confucius was and do not know at all what he said, for sure no one live by confucius lines, you’ve lived years by comunism lines (that again is westener) and after that you ended up in a cynic society that regards money as mesure of everthing value. Homosexuality is already present in china and will be more and more, no doubt.

          • B*tches, Leave

            Check mate HAHAHAHAHA

          • Bear

            The car was invented in germany, computers were conceived by a gay englishman, the gregorian calendar is roman, public schools were created in france. None of your examples come from a single ethnic identity but multiple ethnic peoples and identities that you all lump into one single monolithic ‘western culture’ which is nothing but a modern invention.

          • Zappa Frank

            Is this you reply? you’re really trying to say that western culture doesn’t exist? if it’s a modern invention how come you use it too to indentify us? What do you mean for “modern”? Because europe is basically culturaly and enthnically linked from roman age… later also US, Australia, and so on… every ethnic groups and ideas moved and have been shared with many other countries..
            On the other side what remain of chinese culture? tell me please what in chinese common life remain of chinese culture. hanzi and kuaizi?

          • symon

            Please refrain from mentioning Australia. We prefer to stay out of this. Thank-you.

          • Zappa Frank

            yes you’re right, because obviously australia doesn’t belong to western culture.. i’m sorry for my stupid mistake.

          • Warlock

            Wrong. It was invented way BEFORE Turing. Alan Turing was still a genius and persecuted however. Who gives a fuck if he was gay, you damned homophobe?

            http://www.cs.manchester.ac.uk/about-us/history/

          • Warlock

            Absolutely and resolutely true in everything you have posted. I bet most wouldn’t like to go back to making soup from grass and only drinking rough wine.

          • maybeabanana

            That’s so freaking sad… China used to be considered highly advanced. See this study. http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2013/08/where-was-china-why-the-twentieth-century-was-not-a-chinese-century-a-deleted-scene-from-my-slouching-towards-utopia-th.html
            Most Chinese I know follow Confucius traditions but don’t really understand it.

          • xiaode

            Heyheyhey… western companies in many fields are very successful in China… take a look at the automobile industry, machinery, basically all kind of technical /high tech products. Maybe you got one for me… but I don´t know any example of a technical advanced product, a Chinese person with enough money to buy it from a wester / foreign brand (ok, could also be eastern if you incl. Japanese products) would consider to buy from a Chinese brand / manufacturer.

            But you are right.. foreign / western companies struggle in China with many things….

          • Germandude

            Anybody else here willing to give away the “behaving inapproprietly in a metro” award to the Chinese for further world domination?
            Actually, let’s not ask anybody here. I am playing out my intellectual superior “Bear”-card domination joker and simply give what belongs to whom.

          • chosan

            more CHinese domination:

            Rich Chinese hire American surrogate mothers for up to $120,000 a child

            Wealthy Chinese are
            hiring American women to serve as surrogates for their children,
            creating a small but growing business in $120,000 “designer” American
            babies for China’s elite.

          • Probotector

            Where did you hear that?

          • linette lee

            Where is that article? Give me the link. The woman has to be white? They want Eurasian babies?

          • Probotector

            They are the best.

          • whuddyasack

            Only problem is I don’t know who’s dominating who…

          • whuddyasack

            Yes, Frank. “Loosely”, but I get your point. It’s a good one. But don’t forget about paper, sanitation, chicken/pig rearing/cultivation, umbrellas, gunpowder and the origins of mechanical computations :)

          • Nessquick Choco

            hehe. seems you may be as well my next target. do you see my blades ? are you cold now ? no ?

          • B*tches, Leave

            in defense, they do bring us a huge amount of entertainment stuff that does distract us from all those serious questions … can’t imagine my life without the movies, games, books, internet, etc … I’d probably kill myself out of depression from the bullshit in the world :)

          • Mony Xie

            Let me rephrase your sentences: “Some others killed people too! Why can’t I kill people? Why you criticize me for killing?”

          • Bear

            Stop being a white dick sucking whore.

            Who did Mao Zedong kill?
            People dying of economic failures is not murder.

            When did the Chinese ever kill anybody?

            It’s always foreigners killing the Chinese who just want to live peacefully.

            Stupid cunt.

          • Mony Xie

            An “economic” failure that killed millions of people?

          • Bear

            There was no intent. It would be considered manslaughter at most in a court of law.

            White crimes of genocide, slavery, chemical and nuclear bombings were with intent to exterminate large amounts of people as fast as possible. That’s a first degree mass murder charge as well as a crime against humanity.

            But ‘winners’ never get charged for crimes, they just write the history.

            What kind of sad pathetic chink defends the west?
            A chink who can’t stop sucking white dick.

          • Mony Xie

            I’m defending the west? How?
            It is you who are defending your pathetic 面子 and nationalism.
            And you used the word ‘chink’ while criticizing the west. What?

          • Paulos

            “There was no intent. It would be considered manslaughter at most in a court of law.”

            Not according to Prof. Dikotter of HKU:

            “Not only Mao, but also other senior leaders were willing to condone the deaths of millions of people in the Great Leap Forward.”

            “Many of the victims did not die because there was no grain available in the villages, instead they were deliberately and selectively deprived of food by local cadres because they were relatively rich, dragged their feet, spoke out, or simply were not liked, for whatever reason, by whoever wielded the canteen ladle.”

            “By a very rough approximation, between 6 and 8 per cent of these victims, or 2 to 3 million people, were buried alive, tortured or beaten to death.”

            I understand this may seem impossible, so feel free to do more independent research, but please be aware:

            Denying Mao’s culpability, or glossing over the brutality of the Great Leap Forward in any way is painfully offensive to families within the Chinese diaspora who were forced to flee from that tragedy as well as to families who suffered in similar circumstances elsewhere in history.

            Just warning you in case you decide to continue this discussion in real life and someone punches you in the face.

          • Mony Xie

            Also It seems that you are not very well educated judging from you words.

          • Bear

            “from you words”

            The irony.

          • Germandude

            America has loads of memorial sites about what they have done to the natives. I have been to several of them. If you google sth like: Native American memorical sights, your first hit is:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_Heritage_Sites_(U.S._National_Park_Service)

            Now, I took that a step further and tried googling “Mao Zedong’s great leap forward.

            Mysteriously, my internet browsers (Chrome, IE and firefox), all tell me that they haven’t received any data.
            I am furious now, because I hate having PC problems as it is difficult to figure out what happened. Maybe you wanna help me out here?

          • Bear

            I’m sure the native americans are very grateful that you built a few memorial sites for them. Really makes up for all the expulsions and genocide.

        • mr.wiener

          Sorry, been busy.

      • Warlock

        I’d wager you are from guangdong or hong kong, you cantonese gangster. Get lost!!

    • ChinaWoody

      I’m glad you mentioned this Rick. I think the issue is in China so many people eat with their mouth open that people here just don’t notice it, or it doesn’t bother them. So they only mention the odor. I’d wager a bag of grapes that there was some serious lip-smacking going on here.

  • Pft both must be born in the year of the Ox. What do you expect from Ox born. Bunch of stubborn grass muncher. Thats right. Grass Muncher. Herbivore, Plant Eater…. Vegetarian!

    • David

      lol Wait, what am I laughing at? I am a year of the rabbit (a very carnivorous rabbit)

  • that guy

    does this give license to beat the sh!t out of every Chinese person that thinks foreigners are just walking English exhibits and walk up to take a picture of you? if so…sweet!

    • mr.wiener

      Dream on.

      • that guy

        put the coin in the slot and the foreigner will speak English. *click*

        • B*tches, Leave

          every time I see it, it’s a pathetic site … lack of education and dignity!

        • Probotector

          Coin? Come on, they’re too cheap for that. More like kick the foreigner in the nuts for a good laugh.

    • Probotector

      You stand up for yourself in China, and you’re mobbed, arrested, then banned, while all of China cheers in victory and pats themselves on the back as the greatest nation in the world.

    • donscarletti

      It’s weird, I have not been photographed that much in China, but when my mother and father came to visit and we went to the tourist sites, my mother was asked if she would be willing to be photographed with various tourists maybe every two hours while we were outside.

      My parents were however proud to notice that on the relatively rare circumstances that I was photographed, it was by various, young and mostly attractive women.

      I think it is because I currently look like a pretty generic guy, clean shaven or light stubble, straight and very dark brown hair, neither fat nor thin, not overly tall (1.82m) and dress in dark jeans and collared shirts. Previously, I had waist length hair, a beard, was overweight and dressed like a transient and people had a tendency to look at me far more. These days I get more welcoming smiles from pretty girls and less bemused stares from everyone else, so that’s far better.

    • Cauffiel

      Man, all my fingers would be broken by the end of the day.

    • MrC

      Recent massage, new girl, fat lazy fck. taking photos of me, i blocked her and told her to delete them.
      Later when I’m lying on my stomach for the back deal, i can hear her clicking away and momo buzzing while she was leaning her elbow in my back .
      She fucked up, because I got her mugshots phone in hand and I know the boss. So she jobless for her efforts.

  • Claude

    When did the Chinese get so haughty? Anything goes on a Chinese train.

  • Alphy

    Bunch of fools telling the lady to mind her own business really tick me off. It’s that type of attitude that causes the chaos in China. If the rule say you can’t do something, either change the rule or shut up and follow it. Not only they do not help to uphold social norms, they encourage others to break them, is it a surprise that there are garbage everywhere and public spaces are treated the way they are?

    During the last golden week in China, I had the displeasure of traveling to some rural areas. I don’t know how many times I have to tell people to not try to jump the line. Almost every time, they first try to ignore me, and when that’s not possible, they say stupid things like: “Why it’s just two more people can’t you just let us cut in?” I also encounter some morons who decide they would like to talk on the phone while park in a very narrow mountain road. He caused a backup of around 200 cars. When I got to the guy, I stopped and ask him, why the heck is he parking in the middle of the road, he just said, I am on the phone! I yell back, then move your freaken car to the parking lot, 100m ahead of you! Just Amazing…

    • Rick in China

      RE: “very narrow mountain road. He caused a backup of around 200 cars. When I got to the guy, I stopped and ask him, why the heck is he parking in the middle of the road, he just said, I am on the phone!”

      That’s when you grab it from his hand, and send it off the cliff. Tell ’em to move his fucking car or he’s next. *claps dust off hands*

      • lonetrey / Dan

        Exactly what I was thinking of. Tossing the phone off the mountain either forces him to go down the path to retrieve it (lol) or drive to the parking lot to report you. Eitherway, win! :)

        • Warlock

          Not as a foreigner. You’d have to buy a new phone and may end up in prison?

      • mr.wiener

        …..Guy instantly springs from car and starts flailing away with weak dishtowel haymakers you easily avoid and you push him gently , he falls to the ground. The drivers of the remaining 200 cars see a foreigner fighting a Chinese guy and instantly set upon you. Luckily a police car is also in the traffic jam, the police extricate you from the melee, put you in handcuffs in the back of the car and tell you “You shouldn’t have made trouble”.
        You feature in the next story in Chinasmack, get deported from China, the Chinese phone user becomes a national hero, Chinese society limps along without change for the next 4000+ years.

        • Boris

          ….followed rapidly by a 90 day crackdown in Beijing where ‘patriots’ are encouraged to report on ‘suspicious’ looking foreigners.

          • Claude

            ..and using rolling billboards like England.

          • Boris

            To be fair, the billboards -though distasteful- result from a serious immigration problem in the UK. Not a bunch of over-sexed college students on the piss over at Sanlitun…

    • willie miller

      You see that type of behavior everyday in Beijing.

    • Cauffiel

      Seriously, man…. GRAPES. So what? I would rather everybody on the train eat grapes than pick their nose or cough on me, or smoke cigarettes in areas clearly marked “no smoking.”

      Your other examples are super obnoxious though. “Its only two people.” Jesus, what a couple of worthless human pieces of garbage.

      • filabusta

        At the same time it’s just a picture. The grape woman made it a big deal by trying to fight when it could have just faded into weibo oblivion.

      • boo

        sounds like to me the pregnant woman was craving for some sour grapes. you know being pregnant, craving for sour food and hormones… otherwise it’ll difficult to explain how come someone eating grapes would bother her that much

      • Boris

        Well, the story said cookies/crackers and then grapes, but I concur with your sentiment. There’s bigger stuff to get flustered about, like idiots running reds and you needing to take evasive action to avoid spending the rest of your years in a wheelchair. The part that stood out for me was the ‘you might get hit’ part. I don’t know how it was said, but where I grew up that’s fighting talk -definitely a threat. If she had’ve been more diplomatic she may have ended up with a more civil result. She sounds more like the kind of person who just lives for arguments, and probably couldn’t give a flying-one about the grapes.

    • symon

      I had one Chinese lady looks like she was in her late 40’s, cut in front of me at an ATM line, in Sydney. They probably don’t mean to be rude, it’s probably just habit that they’ve dragged along with them from China.

      • Probotector

        How understanding of you. Did you have a beer with her afterwards?

        • symon

          No but i had noodle and cricket soup with her.

          • Probotector

            Whatever for?

  • B*tches, Leave

    “rules don’t apply to me, I’m special, my firecrackers are the loudest during new year, so I’ll be okay, go me” – and then BOOM, a truck crushes him :D I just love to watch those youku traffic accident videos with my narration for those idiots who think that rules and order isn’t for them :))))

  • Nicola Collina

    this is because in case of fight in china there is usual one immediate compensation.
    so people are not scared about other people confrontation and they keep behave as they want because nobody want to start something that will cost money.

    In italy takes AGES to go on court and be obliged to pay and ofte go to prescription. health care is for free so nobody has to pay from his pocket any hospital service, so for minor injures is a matter of “proud” and many people let it go

    So “average people” avoid violate rules because public confrontation could be bad for them

    In china, where if you touch someone this people act as dead and in few hours you get a compensation requirement according with police, people are very “weak” in avare others because they are scared about physical confrontation.
    Infact in china i only see gang fight. Almost never seen single people confrontation (situations that in italy would have ended physical 100%)

    • Claude

      Nicola, our man in the streets. Any update on the protest/riot in Ningbo?

      • Nicola Collina

        i’m a man in same town but not same district. :D. so i cannot be a so called man in the streets. but seems nothing for today. :)

  • Ruaraidh

    It’s pretty harsh to take someone’s photo secretly and expose them on the web, but if you’ve had the guts to confront them over their misdeed first and they still wont stop, I don’t see anything wrong with exposing them at that point.

    • Cauffiel

      Or maybe its none of the lady’s fucking business. :-D

      • Atlas

        Animals are everyone’s business.

  • markus peg

    I thought the news about London’s mayor Boris Johnson, traveling on Beijing’s No 1 line would be on here. the comments were funny about that story…

    • Probotector

      What happened?

  • Probotector

    So many things the Chinese do to fight and argue with each other, that a foreigner, standing up for himself would be gang-mobbed, arrested and banned from China forever for. I hate how they have free reign to just antagonise us with impunity, but if you stand up to it, or get mad… Uh-oh! Face has been lost! Bring on all of China to mob, “human flash search” and teach you yangguizi a good lesson about daring to tell an all-mighty Chinese person to leave you alone and not bother you. The audacity!

    • B*tchea, Leave

      just leave it be … it’s like Chris Rock said – the people with the least shit get more shit from people with the most shit. For example skinny people can’t insult fat people, but fat people can insult skinny people. Rich people can’t insult poor people, but poor people can insult rich people …
      They live in a developing country, which is developing way too fast, but doesn’t wait for the people to catch up … and we’re just visiting :)

      • Probotector

        Fair enough

  • Ricky Beijing

    ….I think I may have witnessed this….. I remember I was on the subway and two women were shouting on the platform and pulling out of each other after coming out of the train opposite.

    I do see some fucking animals on the subway, I try to enforce my own little sense of justice to the situation but they are just animals. Like, everyone queues nicely either side of the doors to the train, and some old fuck just walks straight at the doors and stands there. My first reaction is to stand smack in front of her and then she stands poking me in my lower back and trying to get around.

    Like…what shade of shit must you have emerged from to really be that selfish?

    I was at Haidian HuangZhuang station about a week ago (apparently China’s silicon valley) and a mother takes her child around the balcony part of the stairs and just lets her daughter piss there. Takes out a napkin, wipes her child, and fucks the napkin in the puddle of piss. All that, and the bathrooms were about 150 meters to the other end of the platform.

    My fucking terrier wouldn’t do that, what does that say about someone who does?

    • Probotector

      It comes from upbringing, and the cultures of harmony and face.

      • sima yi

        You mean the LACK of upbringing, and LACK of culture of harmony and face.

        • Probotector

          Well, yeah.

  • I love China

    When in China do what they do and I do my very best to imitate every last one of them.

    I litter everywhere I go and poo and piss wherever and whenever I feel like when I am there. To respect their people you have to act like their people. Obviously the pregnant lady is adhering to their customs

    • Cauffiel

      That must be why you love China so much.

  • Cauffiel

    Fucking deserved it. Being pregnant isn’t a free pass to be a maniacal, punctilious cunt. Why don’t you guys start turning the cameras at your leaders for a change?

    • mr.wiener

      ahem…..language please.

      • Cauffiel

        What the fuck are you talking about?

  • sima yi

    “even taking out an iPad to use while eating”

    Ahaha. Fυcking peasants. Never missing an occasion to flaunt their consumer products.

    • al

      Fake iPad

  • Angie Mac

    Since I’ve been here, I’ve seen half a dozen fights. I haven’t been here that long. I had been warned about a lot of things in China, but violence was not one of them. Is this something people forgot to mention, or is this a new trend?

    • Mony Xie

      No, this is not new. It happens occasionally. The rule is, mind your own business, and you’ll be fine.

      • Angie Mac

        Good to know, thanks. Starting to understand why everyone walks with their head bowed down.

        • Boris

          I’d say violence is on the up. 2004/2005 I never saw a fight. Now I see them weekly. Some things you just can’t turn a blind eye to, and every fibre of your conscience will push you to get involved in.

      • TheInConvenientRuth

        I got PUSHED into a fight outside a McDonalds, by some yobs who were inside, rushing out to help their friends outside. Got a few hits (I’m a 5ft middle aged woman), then I got detained by the police while all the Chinese walked away laughing…
        Luckily the manager saw what happened and told the police he had CCTV footage and I was innocent. Police let me go with a stern warning ‘not to cause trouble’ again.. WTF?

        • Probotector

          Sorry to hear that, but Chinese hate all ‘foreigners’ and lose face even if they perceive being wronged. They then feel they need to make an example of you. The fact that the cops gave you a warning just illustrates they knew they’d made a mistake, but didn’t want to lose face over it. Also, the fact that they’d pick on a petite foreign woman (no disrespect) makes it all the more worse.

        • Mony Xie

          Yeah, that’s Chinese Police’s logic – as long as you are involved, it’s more or less your fault. If any Chinese had stand up for you, they would probably be detained as well.

        • Cauffiel

          Its pretty cool the manager stuck up for you. I’d be really grateful for that.

        • dffd

          you walked away from that,, either those guys were pussies or your a liar

      • Warlock

        The rule is, mind your own business, and you’ll be fine.

        Sounds a bit like a GW mentality to me, be a doormat, and you will be walked all over in ASIA. Yes mind your own business with criminal gangster types and mixing between the ethnic groups, but not when being dictated to by some petty tyrant boss. Stand your ground, refuse, and leave if necessary, but never just mind your own business.

  • DogDish

    Don’t like nosy idiots taking your picture? Think about that the next time you start giggling like a moron and go for your camera to catch that laowai in a kodak moment.

    • Probotector

      I know what you mean; hate that shit.

    • Cauffiel

      They’re like the goddamned Paparazzi.

    • Taking photos of people in public is lawful and part of what helps keeps societies free. For a laowai to take exception to this – they don’t deserv to return to a free land some day.

      • Probotector

        No, it’s an invasion of one’s privacy and personal space. We are not politicians or celebrities who asked to be in the lime light, and our children certainly aren’t either. Chinese people only photograph foreigners for their own amusement because they don’t care about the stuff I just mentioned.

        • vonskippy

          “No, it’s an invasion of one’s privacy and personal space.”

          Oh boo hoo. You’re on PUBLIC transportation – there is no expectation of privacy or personal space. Want privacy – buy a car.

          • Probotector

            Firstly, you’re wrong, everyone’s personal space should be respected. Secondly, we were talking about foreigners being photographed in general in China, and how infuriating it is. If you were here you’d understand what it’s like. I’ll tell you what., today, you go around photographing random people wherever you are, and see how far you get. mmkay?

          • Wololoo

            Thats the concept of public space. If you don’t want to have fotos of you, stay at home.

            Anyway fotos are just light reflected by you, not even yourself.

          • Probotector

            Are you serious?

      • Alexander

        Yeah, I agree with Probotector on this issue. Why should people who aren’t celebrities or politicians have to get photographed if they don’t want to, especially children, it is very weird when strangers are taking pictures of other peoples children, technically it should be illegal. There is a big difference between taking photos of other people for your amusement and taking photos as a witness to a crime.

        • Probotector

          To be fair, Chinese people photograph anything that tickles them. I once saw people snapping up pics of an obese Chinese guy once, and laughing at him. Foreigners just get it the most because we’re the most common ‘attraction’ in the zoo that is “anything that’s not boring old day-to-day Han China”.

          • Alexander

            Yes, true enough, but what I find interesting is the Han majority of Chinese are also found in Hong Kong and Singapore, yet in those places it seems their manners are so much more civilized. What makes Han peasants of Canton so uncivilized in Shenzhen, yet after crossing the border into Hong Kong its like a transformation into a civilized goup of Canton Han people….. how does this phenomena occur? Is it because in Hong Kong they have a more professional police force that does a better job of enforcement of municipal infractions (Hong Kong is filled with signs all over the place stating 500 HK$ fines for this or that….)?

          • Probotector

            It’s because mainland China’s been in upheaval for the first 80 years of the 20th century, so everyone is uneducated.

          • Alexander

            Is that why? Eastern Europe was no walk in the park either throughout the 20th century, but I don’t see these issues in Macedonia, Ukraine, or Romania…etc etc…..

  • Angie Mac

    “eating and drinking inside the train car” along with behaviors such as smoking, spitting, urinating, etc. have all been listed as prohibited…

    Urinating has been prohibited on the subway? The good ole days are gone forever…

  • filabusta

    I was up seeing Sun Zhongshan during the holiday. Me and my girlfriend were waiting in line for the shuttle and this guy and his family just walk up to the shuttle that pulled up and jumped on and told his family to do the same. The shuttle worker started yelling at him that he needs to wait in line like everybody else and they started going after each other. The shuttle worker gave up and let the guy go after like four guys on the train were about the fight him. I gave the worker a nod because although he didn’t get the asshole off the train he let him know that he was an asshole in a very public way. I feel the same with this girl. Every little bit matters.

  • twelve ways

    Hate to say it but I am actually on the side of the woman who was eating. Not that I agree with people eating on the subway (or breaking rules that are set up to make life bettter for the majority of the people) but because of the way the ‘nosy’ woman handled it.

    She should have just pointed out that you are not allowed to eat on the subway and left it at that, threatening to beat someone for something like this (regardless of whether it was actually a joke or not) and taking someone’s picture with the intention of naming and shaming them online is extremely childish, she sounds like a complete cock.

  • radbab

    self justice + useless people not enforcing rules = great combo :/

  • 二奶头发

    The bus has no smoking signs everywhere but the driver lights up. I hate that.

  • 二奶头发

    I’d like to see a fine for not covering your mouth on a train when sneezing or not using a tissue when blowing your nose

    • lonetrey / Dan

      Eww. Gross. I was going to ask how to blow your nose without a tissue, but I just realized how that’s disgusting.

      Kill it with fire! >:[

      • linette lee

        I hate hate hate when people spit. Even in USA I see non Chinese men spit too on the street. And they love to throw cigarette butts on the ground. It’s usually men only. I hate that.

        • UserID01

          Oooooh boy, I know what you mean. I was waiting at a bus stop and a man was on the phone, talking to someone, but every few seconds he leaned over the curb to spit. How many times does someone need to spit?! It was nauseating.

          • maybeabanana

            Every seen people eat chew?

      • 二奶头发

        it’s pretty disgusting. I saw someone do that AGAIN this morning on the bus.

        What’s even MORE disgusting is when some chinese people don’t brush their teeth. crammed in a bus or on a train with a guy with dog shit breath. Come on people buy a fucking mint will ya!

    • UserID01

      I agree. It’s completely disgusting when I see people cough, especially if they’re very obviously sick, and not cover their mouths. It doesn’t take a lot of effort to practice basic manners and hygiene. It drives me crazy.

  • 用开水烫我!

    i eat snacks and drink milk tea in subway too…sometimes also breakfast…haha!
    i do not think that woman littered,its fine.
    if someone dares to say that thing to me first,i would get very mad too.

    • Probotector

      Brazenly moronic.

    • Zappa Frank

      i had no doubts… i’m even sure you could pee in the metro as well.

    • jin

      if its the law that says no eating/drinking no subway, it means no drinking/eating in subway. or else everyone can just do whatever they want as long they clean up?

      • 用开水烫我!

        no!in sh people really dont care you eat or drink in subway.because there are ATM for snacks and drinks too inside subway,also some food stores inside subway too.
        if you hold a drink get into subway,these safety checks do not care either…

    • Middle_Kingdum

      Bunny, the rule says you should not take food or drink on subway. So what you do is against the rules. You think it is ok?

    • Warlock

      Moron.

  • UserID01

    Two things. 1) You shouldn’t eat on the train. Living in New York City, I understand that sometimes you’re running late or multi-tasking and you try to have your breakfast/lunch/dinner right in the middle of your commute. I do. But I still think it’s rude to eat on public transportation. It’s just uncivilized behavior. Grab something to eat before you get on the bus/train/whatever. It’s not that difficult to find a quick snack you can polish off BEFORE getting a train when you’re living in a major metropolitan city.

    2) The pregnant lady was out of line. She was rude, saying to the person eating on the subway that she was going to put her picture up for public humiliation and judgment. It’s one thing to politely remind someone of the “no eating in subways” rule, if there is one, or just a nudge towards better social etiquette. But she was being rude, and rudeness is ALWAYS met with rudeness right back.

    In summation, I’ll say that both people were wrong in this situation. And it speaks volumes about the culture in China that eating certain foods in a train car is acceptable. It isn’t. I don’t care if it smells bad or even smells GOOD. It’s rude to eat in a train or on a bus. You get bits of food everywhere, even when trying to be careful, and I’m pretty sure not everyone takes care to bring their containers and rubbish with them when they’re exiting at their stop.

  • Monkey doodle

    The whole process of getting on and off the subway can be annoying at the times. Sometimes I take a railing just to realize that some cunt just had meal at the same spot and wiped his greasy hands on that railing. It’s not related but I find yihaodian advertisement with drulling kids highly disgusting. But I’m not pregnant I can put up with a lot of shit.

  • YourSupremeCommander

    Why would you even threaten the woman that she will get hit in the first place?
    S T U P I D

  • GermanExpat

    If you threaten to hit someone (even as a joke) don’t be suprised to be the first one getting hit. Pregnant women don’t carry signs saying they are pregnant and a lot of women don’t even know they are pregnant during the first 2-3 months.

    • YourSupremeCommander

      Pregnant and milfs with strollers… these chicks think they are the law and everyone else yields to them.

  • linette lee

    If no eating allowed then people shouldn’t be eating on the train. There should be signs everywhere. But I really don’t have problem or see it as a big problem if they exercise discretion. Just eat some cookies or grapes and don’t make a mess or drop crumbs or seeds on the floor. NO CRUMBS DROP ON THE FLOOR! PICK IT UP! Don’t eat a whole big meal on the train. NO Garbage. Holding coffee just be careful and don’t spill it. People bring on the train groceries. The problem is people eat and drop crumbs everywhere and throw garbage everywhere.

    • Cauffiel

      So, eat on the train, but don’t be a jerk about it.

      Seems pretty reasonable!

      • linette lee

        Eat very sneaky. Eat a small sandwich or a small snack. Just like students eating in the library hiding their coffee and sandwiches. Make no sound and hide your food. Pick up the crumbs and clean up after yourself. hehe..I used to do that all the time and never got caught. I can stay in the library the whole day without leaving. But I do need to snack while I study.

  • Storm in a teacup

  • Rei Yu Tian

    Nothing infuriates me more than people that smack their mouths whilst eating. Seriously, fuck you if you do it.

    • B*tches, Leave

      every time it reminds me of my boxer dog

      • Rei Yu Tian

        Pigs for me, haha

  • MrC

    The bigger problem is Chinese always blatantly or sneaking taking photos of you.
    No fcking privacy or decency here.

    • 白色纯棉小裤裤

      Why do people record video of other people and upload it on youtube?

      Isnt it a much bigger violation of privacy?

      • B*tches, Leave

        because they have shit to do and/or haven’t got their faces kicked in a while …

      • MrC

        dunno i never fcking use youtube. I live in China and i take personal offense when people here sly a photo of me.

  • 5,000 years of uncivilization

    Judging from most of the Chinese comments above, China still has a long way to go to be considered a civilized and developed country.

    • 白色纯棉小裤裤

      Judging from this video and the English comments below, the west still has a long way to go to be considered civilized and developed.

      • B*tches, Leave

        sorry, youtube is closed here, but your comment is stupid. period.

        • 白色纯棉小裤裤

          You are just too stupid to figure out how to visit youtube. period.

          • B*tches, Leave

            No, I have VPN, but I don’t want to visit youtube, because it’s against the law in China LOL, stupid. period :]

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            There is no such law that states you are not allowed to visit youtube.
            Don’t find excuses for your stupidity.

          • B*tches, Leave

            lol I was kidding about the law part, but you’re too stupid to get that

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Then you don’t visit YouTube simply because you are stupid.

          • B*tches, Leave

            yeah, stupid, I’m stupid for not using youtube, stupid!

          • Probotector

            Everyone is stupid if they don’t agree with him, haven’t you heard?

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Could Mr brainwashed idiot tell me where you get the 60 million deaths from?

          • Probotector

            Are you still here?

          • B*tch, Leave

            sorry, mate, 60 million is correct … if not even more

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            checking the facts is obviously too difficult for someone who’s too stupid to access YouTube.

          • B*tches, Leave

            I know it’s hard to accept these numbers … it’s messed up, don’t be mad, bro

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            No it’s very easy to accept that you are an idiot.

          • B*tches, Leave

            wow, in the beginning I was just laughing at you, then I trolled you, but now … now I feel sorry for you … I bet it’s not easy being you, going through life with your foolish mind and weak character … you’re a sad loser, aren’t you?

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Seeing your pathetic comments just make me feel that life is much easier, So there is no need to be sorry.

          • B*tches, Leave

            hm, so only now by seeing my pathetic comments you feel that life is much easier? you’re welcome, you lowlife :)

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Yeah since I got a 90 on a latest midterm I always have a feeling that I am not so smart until I see your comments.

          • B*tches, Leave

            hehe, yes, I won :) your final comment is evidence of your clear stupidity, I mean, we don’t know each other and just call each other names for the fun of it, but now it’s clear :) Mr. I got 90 on a latest midterm so be impressed, you’re a lowlife idiot, bye ^^

      • Probotector

        Yeah, a bunch of gang-banger bitches from the hood represent all people in all Western societies.

      • Paulos

        Deplorable behavior to be sure, but I noticed one difference. The other passengers in Beijing allowed the situation to escalate forcing the pregnant woman to flee on her own. In NY, the video clearly shows a gentleman wearing a black jacket try to verbally then physically diffuse the situation before anyone got hurt.

        Sure, I could be splitting hairs here, but then again, maybe this is indicative of something bigger.

      • Warlock

        You picked one video on youtube, what you want a medal? The West is not one country either, you moron.

        • hess

          Dont be silly, we white devils are all from 西国

      • ptptp

        Eating on the New York City subway wasn’t illegal when this video was filmed. There was talk of changing that late last year but I can’t find any reference to whether the proposal was enacted.

      • 5,000 years of uncivilization

        Crap. I guess there is no truly civilized or developed place in the world.

    • YourSupremeCommander

      Judging from your comment above, I conclude that you must have no higher than a 23 IQ score.

      • 5,000 years of uncivilization

        What makes you say that?

  • asdf

    According to one of our netizens, you have to marry a rich man to be able to afford grapes. Typical chinese peasant mentality. I’m not saying all chinese are like this but seriously stop it with “scoring” rich men.

    • dffd

      i dont see a problem with gold diggers,, theyre living their own lives the way they want to. just because your broke you dont have to hate on them

  • Puff Daddy

    Rick has too much time on his hands….

  • anon101

    all those saying theres n smell so whats the problem.
    Have you ever seen a chinese person eat grapes, they suck out the insides, disguarding the ‘peel’, then spit out the seeds. not forgetting when ever something like sars happens its always starts in these shitty third world countrys where there is no hygiene.

    • 白色纯棉小裤裤

      Sars killed 340 in China while H1N1 killed 3,400 in America.

      I guess american lives are so cheap that you don’t bother.

      • Paulos

        Flag on the play, false analogy, turnover on downs.

        H1N1 is one of the most deadly diseases in human history. In the US, the 1918 epidemic killed over a half million. The fact that only 3,400 died during the 2009 outbreak is a miracle of medical science and social order.

        SARS is a respiratory infection with little historic significance other than the 2002 cover-up, and if you actually believe the figures offered by the PRC with regards to death/infection… well, nothing I offer will penetrate anyway, so I’ll stop there.

        • 白色纯棉小裤裤

          A H1N1 breakout took place in China too.
          With 128033 people infected only 800 were killed.
          So I guess that is a much better miracle of medical science and social order?

          Well if you don’t believe any figures that the evil communist government give you, then nothing I offer will penetrate anyway.

          • hess

            obviously drinking hot water saved most people

          • Paulos

            What in the world are you talking about?

            -The “Asian” flu in the 50’s was H2N2.
            -The “Hong Kong” flu in the 60’s was H3N2.
            -North-east China’s H1N1 outbreak in the 70’s was mild and likely related to a lab incident (i.e. not a pandemic).

            Both the 1918 and 2009 H1N1 pandemics came out of North America. The US and Mexico’s honest and timely response to the 2009 outbreak allowed the international community to take appropriate measures. If the US had suppressed news of the outbreak as the PRC did with SARS, the results would have been catastrophic.

            And for what it’s worth, I never said China’s government was evil. Compared to the rest of humanity and given all of China’s demographic constraints, I actually think they do a great job. I did say they have a strong propensity to lie to foreign media, and that much is true beyond dispute.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            You never know that H1N1 outbreak took place in China too?

            Are you living in your dreams?

            http://www.wpro.who.int/china/mediacentre/factsheets/influenza_a/en/index.html

            ” If the US had suppressed news of the outbreak as the PRC did with SARS, the results would have been catastrophic.”

            If the following results are not catastrophic then I don’t know what is.

            On June 11, the WHO raised the worldwide pandemic alert to its highest level, Phase 6, to illustrate that a global pandemic caused by a novel strain of influenza A (H1N1) was underway (WHO, 2009a). As of April 10, 2010, the total number of infected individuals all over the world reached 61 million; 12,470 people died from the disease (WHO, 2010a).

            On the other hand, SARS only caused 100+ deaths outside of China.

          • Paulos

            For the last time, the 2009 H1N1 outbreak came out of North America.* Relevant authorities in Mexico and the US acted quickly to notify the international community allowing the maximum amount of time for other countries to prepare for the disease’s inevitable arrival.** The fact that the disease eventually spread to China does not magically create an isolated incident, it was part of the same pandemic.

            With regards to how catastrophic it could have been, I again must remind you of the 1918 outbreak where H1N1 wiped out almost 5% of the world’s population.*** Today that would easily be over a quarter billion.

            So again, regarding SARS, it’s a rare respiratory infection. H1N1 is one of the most deadly diseases in human history. To compare the lethality of SARS to H1N1 is to compare the firepower of a water pistol to an AK-47.

            *http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19516283
            **http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/cdcresponse.htm
            ***http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/12/1/05-0979_article.htm

        • 白色纯棉小裤裤

          And I was in 广东 during SARS time. I still remember that everyone is panic however I had not heard from the people I know that anyone they know is infected.

  • Cleo

    ultimately, that public shaming implied in taking the unauthorized photo is the greater wrong – the personal images of someone who is not attacking you is private property – its not the same thing if you are using it to protect yourself from further abuse by someone who has already harmed you

  • Probotector

    To be fair, the girl on the left has nice legs.

    • YourSupremeCommander

      You mean butt?

      • Probotector

        That too, yes

  • Life is good

    I’m not surprised many mainlanders condone eating on public transport. Once a mainlander Chinese always will be. I am a proud Hong Konger!

  • Dax

    People need to realize that its only okay to take pictures of someone without their permission if they come from a different country.

    • Probotector

      I hope you’re being sarcastic dude.

    • Dax

      Clearly. It was my reaction to constantly getting my picture taken without my permission like it’s no big deal and then reading comments like “Don’t think you just because you have a mobile phone that you can take pictures as you please… you can’t take photographs of other people as you please violating their individual rights.”

  • Washington Bullets

    The pregnant lady is just so awfully civic-minded, isn’t she? I mean, the one lady shouldn’t be eating on the metro system, but if she gets caught, and if officials actually cared, then she would be fined. I understand following rules, and that sometimes people in China sometimes eat fragrant things (I’d die if there were 臭豆腐 on board), but is this lady eating grapes and crackers bothering you that much?

    The DC metro doesn’t allow food or drink, but it’s because Americans don’t care half the time and who knows what would happen to the garbage. I mean, if she’s not leaving her garbage everywhere and isn’t in your face with it, is it so bad you need to put her picture online where you know people will go nuts about it? No wonder she wanted to hit you. I don’t wish violence on the pregnant lady, but if that middle aged woman destroyed her phone, then I’d think that would be justified in some warped way.

  • mnbvcx1976

    For those that defending the woman that eating grapes, this is why people around the world are condemning China tourists. Respect the rules, respect.

  • Alice Pan

    “Zhuqian says she’s the “nosy” type so whenever she sees something wrong, she always points it out.” talk shit get hit

  • Strangerland

    5000 years of culture… And they’re not cultured enough yet to obey regulations or not eating in subways… Oh who am I kidding with, their culture was destroyed during cultural revolution some decades ago.
    I often heard Chinese people proudly talk about how their civilisation is one of ancients that survive until today, but what they are today is just echo from the past.
    Today’s mainland Chinese are just that; relics from the past. Why? Because they don’t have culture anymore. Overseas Chinese who left China before Cultural revolution- those are the closest you see of China-Pre-Mao compared to present day mainlanders.

    • hess

      Pretty sure the guys back in the “glory days” before communism and what not were nose-picking, street shitting peasants. but so was the rest of the world..

  • maybeabanana

    People are assholes. Some people might shit and piss in there (heck when her brat pops out, she’d probably let it do the same) and this prego is worried about someone eating food? The regulated rule is supposedly for the benefit of everyone and tending to the herd. This happens because people cannot control themselves in respecting and not trashing the space which puts a rule over for everyone else. However, a law says what someone can’t and cannot do is not effective as many are still not abiding by it.

    The worse that can probably happen is when some bacterial epidemic comes about, this is going to be the perfect breeding spot. Courtesy and empathy is what people lack. Nosy prego just want to start shit. What’s prego going to do if she sees a fat man shitting or pissing in the subway? Confront him? She’s just picking on this girl because she thinks she can. Pigs want to dwell in pigsties, sure they all deserve it. Both parties are fools.

  • Hang Em Man

    I like to see the nosy lady point out the rude behaviors of our locals on the public transit system in New York or Detroit. I guarantee after a few hours in da’ hoods of America, she will be very quiet and mind her own business.

  • Johnny Wu

    No one eats on the Tokyo subway but then again the Japanese are a million times more sophisticated than the dirty, poor, Chinese.

  • al in china

    China is full of fucking freaks!

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