Japanese Anime Portrays China as Nazis Bent on World Domination

The 2012 Japanese animation film The Mystical Laws recently surfaced on the Chinese internet much to the contempt and ridicule from Chinese netizens. The film was written by Ryuho Okawa who famously founded the controversial Happy Science religious sect in Japan, a organization known for the denial of Nanjing Massacre and advocating the remilitarization of Japan. Below is the synopsis of the film:

In year 202X, a unnamed economic and military superpower in East Asia suffered a military coup and formed the Godom Empire, its emperor with help from aliens amassed a unstoppable military that soon saw the conquest of Taiwan and is preparing for the imminent invasion of Japan. America with a declining economy and military is unable to stop the Godom Empire. An unlikely hero Sho Shishimaru, discovered to be the reincarnation of Buddha, stood alone as the last hope to save mankind.

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“This morning Godom Empire began the invasion of Nantai”

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“The Godom Empire released a statement”

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“Statement says Nantai is the territory of the Godom Empire”

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“What are you doing, stop filming”

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“Premier, the Godom Empire sunk an American aircraft carrier”

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“They said they have 300 “Special East” intercontinental ballistic missiles”

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“We cannot shoot them all down with just patriot missiles”

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“Today we are not longer the world’s police”

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“Godom troops have landed, run away!”

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“Because we are not Japanese, and instead have become people of the Godom Empire”

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“Can no longer say we are Japanese, this makes me mad!”

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“”In the past Japanese people done many bad things””

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Comments on Tiexue:

505229:

Nowadays, many films and video games abroad all have something to do with China. For example, the film Gravity had a lot to do with China. In the game Battlefield 4, China was also a key part of the plot. Regarding these things with elements about China, we did not boycott or object to them, because they did not smear/defame us, even if there were some misrepresentations. But this film is clearly smearing our image, making us look like we are a war-mongering nation and people. May I ask how just many times we’ve engaged in large-scale expansion?

普普通通的民警:

This is Japan’s so-called soft power foreign diplomacy, and if China does not improve the level of its animation industry, it will cost us sooner or later.

cccpc1000:

This is why it is funny. Japan during World War II was part of the Axis Powers with Germany; they were allies! To portray China as the Nazis, Japan is truly amazing, forgetting what they had done in the past.

lewescat:

I wonder why Chinese animation studios do not release animated films like this.

林下独酌:

Japanese anime has many such films, don’t be too concerned, they are just afraid of us.

deeper36:

Are those J20 fighter planes on the aircraft carrier? The livery is quite sinister looking.

Comments on Douban:

caleb89:

Everybody makes fun of absurd anti-Japanese dramas, and now there is an absurd anti-China drama.

Elimu Yoichi:

I hope Ryuho Okawa can rule the world. This way, the world will be destroyed.

王者自由:

I can’t believe I spent over 2 hours watching this lousy film, there must be something wrong with me. This must be a FLG propaganda film, right?!

Edcho:

…What is this whole film trying to allude to? Seeing Nazi, our Heavenly Kingdom and other odd things all mixed together, I’m both annoyed and amused… One star at best.

惚兮独泣:

The animation quality is surprising not bad; this evil cult sure has money.

不作死就不会死:

Just how fucking dumb this film is, I don’t even want to give it one star [the lowest possible rating on Douban]. Fucking so disgusting.

satanznd:

All of the sudden I forgive absurd Chinese dramas.

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  • mr.wiener

    about as believable as “Red dawn”.

    • Germandude

      Or Indiana Jones, Or Rambo, Or Chuck Norris’ movies.

    • mattman183

      Which was of course edited to make North Korea the invaders instead of China…

      • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

        Unless he is referring to the first one. And let’s face it, the original is much better, as silly as it is.

        • mattman183

          Honestly, I’ll have to take your word for it. But definitely added to my campy 80’s movie must see list.(which i just made)

  • Dax

    “the film Gravity had a lot to do with China.”
    I remember her going to the Chinese space station, but i think it’s a stretch to say it had a lot to do with China. Am I forgetting something?

    • Free Man

      Yes, you are. The lady also talked to some chinese dude and his dog on the radio. Anyway, how is that related to this anime?

      • Dax

        Nope, he’s an Innuit. There’s a short film about him.

        From the first comment: “Nowadays, many films and video games abroad all have something to do with China. For example, the film Gravity had a lot to do with China…”

        • Jahar

          but they come from china too!

    • nqk123

      that guy is an idiot. the only reason why Hollywood added Chinese national actors/ess is because they want to bypass Chinese censorship department. They even have to changed the Mandarin to a white guy in Iron 3. remember

      • linette lee

        They originally wanted to get Andy Lau to play the role Mandarin and even almost sign the contract, but Andy Lau back down last minute because he just really couldn’t fit the movie into his busy schedule.

        • Zappa Frank

          and on others Chinese weren’t available to play this role? My impression is that they wanted a white guy and even changed the mandarin from the great villain to an innocent puppet just to not piss off china…and of course sell more tickets. Well if you’re a fan of ironman it may be sad, luckily i’m not..

          • TheSOP

            Political correctness is really smothering in the US, everything is a stereotype or a slight it seems. But look at the portrayal of foreigners or Japanese in PRC movies? Wow you wanna see some racist ethnic stereotypes, that is the place to look.

          • It’s not about “political correctness”, but rather “capitalistic correctness.” The movie studio that made Iron Man 3 wanted to maximize profits in China (a large market for American films) so they couldn’t use a Chinese villain. It’s not politics, it’s capitalism. Profiteering.

          • Jahar

            I like to think they did it to show how stupid changing movies to satisfy the CCP would be, so they would understand and stop asking for the ridiculous censoring that they like.

          • Dax

            It’s both when the reason it would have less profits is because the Party won’t allow a Chinese to be a bad guy. Remember the needlessly censored scenes in Men In Black 3?

        • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

          Then what happened to Jackie Chan? I recall him wanting to play the role as well.

    • Nick in Beijing

      When I watched that movie a couple of weeks ago, Something funny happened during the scene where someone outside knocks on the airlock door while Sandra Bullock’s character is trying to kill herself and the airlock suddenly opens.

      When the boot with the red painted cuff floated into the scene, all the folks in the theater (I was the only white guy) started talking about how the Chinese were coming to rescue the foreigner and people were verbally patting each other on the back.

      When it was revealed to be George Clooney’s character (and not a Chinese astronaut) there was a collective sigh of disappointment and everyone became silent again.

      I LOL’d.

      • TheSOP

        They so desperately seem to want international approval and fawning attention yet they can’t seem to understand how their own arrogance and hubris not to mention flat out imperialist foreign policy are turning people against the PRC.

    • TheSOP

      Yea, actually I heard China ‘WAS’ going to play a big role, namely it was a irresponsible PRC anti-satellite missile test which precipitated the events of the movie. But Hollywood being the sellouts they are changed it to the poor maligned Russkies.

      • Dax

        That I would believe. Reminds me of the chapter about the guys in the ISS in “World War Z”

  • linette lee

    Instead of using the nazi symbol in this cartoon. Why they don’t use this?

    http://www.wa-pedia.com/images/content/rising_sun_flag.gif

    • wes707

      True, the Japanese have not squarely faced their historical atrocities, which makes them very hypocritical.

      Mao’s cult killed almost as many people as the total number of casualties during WW2, yet the CPC still does not acknowledge their historical atrocities. They could’ve just as well used this:

      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg/800px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg.png

      • TheSOP

        Yea, I dont understand changing it to be a swastika, the 5 star flag represents an evil party every bit as bad as the nazis.

      • Dr Sun

        Well I guess if you want to talk about empires that committed atrocities, you better fly the flag of the one that did it for the longest period of time and over the largest amount of counties (in modern history).

        • wes707

          Could you tell me of a British atrocity that comes close to the number of dead from the Great Leap Forward?

          • mr.wiener

            Probably the Bangladesh famine of 1940-41.[I think] About 5 million dead on that one.

          • Germandude

            Please don’t use the body-count argument. That usually is the most retarded thing to take into account to justify to “being righter” (in the sense of more right) than the other.

            I think it’s fair to say that the British also had their fair share of war atrocities.

            Balancing one with another is just inappropriate.

          • wes707

            You misinterpreted my comment. Absolutely, the British, Americans, Germans, etc. have committed many atrocities – not trying to justify or deny anything. This was part of the thread where others were arguing that “white people” have killed more people than any other group. I’m generally curious if there is anything like the Bangladesh famine of 1940-41 (as mentioned above) that would be of the same level and destruction as the Great Leap Forward.

            I apologize for not knowing ALL world history.

          • Germandude

            I understood that you are neither justifying or denying. I just hate those body-count comparisons to pop-up because they usually lead into a very stupid direction.

            Everything’s cool.

    • David

      lol Now you KNOW you are going to get flamed Linette. But it is sort of funny.

      • linette lee

        hahahaha….bring it on. lol

  • linette lee

    And they draw the soldiers going into houses. They forgot to draw soldiers dragging women out of the house to gang rape and killing babies slicing them with samurai swords .

    This cartoon depicts Japan’s ambition in WWII and what they did in WWII. This cartoon is more about Japan empire of the Sun. Not about China. The Chinese netizens should go to the Japanese internet and thank Japanese for admitting their WWII crime.

    • moeimoei

      yea…I guess in a weird/twisted way, it’s them admitting to those crimes, except they reversed the roles…though not sure if the Chinese is able to achieve that level of war fanaticism…

    • don mario

      yea its from a cult right? some group of crazys. the difference is the in china the crazys are running the place and educating everyone.

  • nqk123

    I don’t think China have the right to says anything because they been doing the same thing with their dramas/books about Japan and others

    • TheSOP

      Yea, kinda funny how they dont like seeing the shoe on the other foot. Perhaps an anime series about Tibet showing the PLA invasion and colonization, then the main characters are Tibetan herdsmen who can slice and dice PLA faceless drones with no issue, their bullets hitting every PLA soldier in their general path while the poor PLA saps can never seem to hit a damn thing. I’d support that anime and upload it on Youku! lol

      • Dax

        I’d watch that.

    • Chris McKenna

      If you put all the dramas together in one film, I wonder if it would be longer than the war itself?

    • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

      No, what China has been doing was rubbing salt in the old wounds.

      This? This is Japan’s Red Dawn.

      • nqk123

        actually no, if you read some of there popular online books (modern life, fantasy, periodic, science fic, ect) you will be amazed how they managed to link all these genre to bashing/degrading Japan. I can also assured you, it’s much more worse then this film.

  • don mario

    this guy missed the point of why movies have things about china in them, which is to kiss ass and make some communist money. might have a little something to do with why they are not slandering china.. this movie looks shite, but it is probably a rare case, dont expect to see any more entertainment slagging off china for a long time.

    • Kai

      I don’t think he missed that “point”. Media designed to appeal to and thus make money from Chinese audiences coexists with media designed to leverage the fear of a rising China in its target audiences. There’s plenty of both.

      I thought what that Chinese netizen said was quite reasonable, and doesn’t necessarily suggest he doesn’t know why many movies have things about China in them. He simply said Chinese don’t really mind movies with Chinese elements even if there are some inaccuracies, as long as it isn’t obvious viilification or demonization. But in this case, this movie is clearly out to villify and demonize China.

      • don mario

        if those western media were not out to make money from chinese then there would be plenty to boycott, because their definition of what you are calling obvious vilification and demonization would be anything that does not tow the party line. how is brad pitts relationship with china then?

        • Kai

          I don’t quite understand your reply.

          • don mario

            you are trying to say he made a fair comment by saying they wont object to anything unless it is an obvious villification and demonization of china.

            i am saying that is a pile of rubbish, because their definition of slandering china is anything that does not tow the party line. i’m not really commenting on the animation, just what he said about the other films mentioning china. he basically said its ok to mention china in a film, just make sure u follow our definition of not slandering china.. and that definition is to kiss ass and give face.

          • Kai

            Just to be clear, you’re referring to 505229’s comment translated by Joe, right?

            If so, no, I said his comment didn’t suggest he “missed the point” of why movies have things about China in them.

            You said the point–or more accurately, reason–movies have things about China in them is to appeal to Chinese audiences, right? To “make some communist money”, right?

            I don’t see how his comment necessarily suggests he “misses” that. He simply didn’t comment about it but about something else. I also don’t see how his comment “basically said” it’s okay to mention China in a film as long as it kisses ass and gives face. That’s a pretty creative interpretation of his comment. Don’t you think you’re crossing over into putting words in his mouth?

          • don mario

            yes karl, he showed that he missed the point by even comparing this jap weird ass propaganda animation to something which is purposely made to pass chinese censors. it’s quite obvious, but continue to pointlessly rant on as u normally do..

          • Kai

            First, I don’t think he “missed the point”, because what you’re saying wasn’t the “point” of what he was commenting on. The “point” of the Japanese movie he is reacting to isn’t that movies have China in them to “kiss Chinese ass and make communist money”.

            Second, He didn’t compare this Japanese movie to stuff purposefully made to pass Chinese censors. I get you suspect Gravity was made to appeal to Chinese audiences, but Battlefield 4? Really? A video game on a console system that is not legally allowed to be sold in China where China undergoes a divisive destabalizing coup and players get to shoot up PLA soldiers? That was made to pass Chinese censors?

            HIS point was quite simple: He feels Chinese people don’t object to portrayals of China as long as they aren’t categorically villifying/demonizing China, even if the portrayals may sometimes be inaccurate. This movie however clearly does villify China, so that’s why it irks him and other Chinese netizens he is commenting with.

            I’m not sure why you interpeted such a simple sentiment as him “missing the point” of “why movies have things about china in them, which is to kiss ass and make some communist money”. YOU feel movies have things about China in them to kiss Chinese ass and make “Communist money”. That’s not an uncommon sentiment to have, but why do want to project it onto him and criticize him for not expressing that exact sentiment? It’s not like he said anything to suggest he doesn’t understand Hollywood panders to Chinese audiences. He simply said he’s cool with movies that don’t villify China and not cool with movies that do.

            I think you misinterpreted the Chinese netizen’s comment in a nonsensical way, criticizing the commenter for not saying something you apparently want to rant about. I don’t think you should be upset and attacking me personally simply because I was confused by you doing this.

          • TheSOP

            That is the truth, slander is often considered airing the truth about history which is inconvenient to China/the PRC.

  • Dr Sun

    People actually watch this kind of nonsense ?

  • Stefan Xu

    “Nowadays, many films and video games abroad all have something to do with China. For example, the film Gravity had a lot to do with China. In the gameBattlefield 4, China was also a key part of the plot. Regarding these things with elements about China, we did not boycott or object to them, because they did not smear/defame us, even if there were some misrepresentations. But this film is clearly smearing our image, making us look like we are a war-mongering nation and people. May I ask how just many times we’ve engaged in large-scale expansion?”

    I agree with this, really if you look back the past century.

    • TheSOP

      “May I ask how just many times we’ve engaged in large-scale expansion?”

      Well considering the majority of China is non-Chinese lands and territories colonized by China, I’d have to say; OFTEN/CONSTANTLY

      • Stefan Xu

        If you’re talking about Tibet and Uyghurstan, yes they shouldn’t really be Chinese. But then again you define whats “Chinese”, is it just Han Chinese? or everyone with Chinese citizenship? Do you consider an ethnic Manchu person born in China to be Chinese?

        • TheSOP

          China is very much a Han dominated state. Minorities are generally decorations that came with the plundered lands. Of course the government tries to define a broader China, but it is the Hans defining others not Tibetans or Mongolians defining themselves.

        • TheSOP

          But culturally I suppose some minorities could be very assimilated, such as the Manchu as you mentioned.

          Equally important is how people or a group of people define themselves; do most manchus see themselves as Chinese? Do most Tibetans? I’ll ask the CPC if I can take a poll lol

    • Germandude

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games#China

      Banned games in China:

      Command & Conquer: Banned for “smearing the image of China and the Chinese army” despite the fact that the game presents China as a quasi-protagonist.[13] Additionally, the GLA campaign has the player destroy questionable targets such as the Three Gorges Dam and the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre.

      Football Manager 2005 (LOOOOL): Banned for recognizing Tibet as an independent country. An edited version globally was later released.

      Hearts of Iron: Banned for portraying Tibet, Sinkiang, and Manchuria as independent countries and Taiwan as under Japanese control

      I.G.I Covert Strike: Banned because of “intentionally blackening China and the Chinese army’s image

      Battlefield 4: Banned because fighting happening in Shanghai and against the PLA.

      Neither that poster nor you know what you are talking about.

      • Stefan Xu

        I don’t care if a game is boycotted or not, that’s not the point. I am not saying China is the good guy but why should China be portrayed as a warmongering “badguy” nation? They’re just creating problems from nothing. Kids playing those games will grow viewing China as the enemy of the west.

        • Germandude

          Hm, ask the Russians how they feel being the bad guys in every 2nd movie or video game.

          • linette lee

            The kids in the west see China as communist and bad country too just to let you know. They are also brainwashed to think USA is the good guy defender of the world and Russia, Middle East, and China are the bad guys communist.

        • TheSOP

          Cry me a river. China is making itself the threat to the world not some half assed video games. Get real.

        • Kai

          Nobody says China “should” be portrayed as a “warmongering ‘badguy’ nation.” It’s just that the video game makers feel China can be the villain. Why do they feel that way? It isn’t “nothing” that underpins their receptivity to China being the enemy, so they’re also not “creating problems from nothing”. Most of the time, they can only be blamed of exaggerating the threat of China and thus exacerbating fears of China, which can result in problems, but it isn’t that hard to see why “the west” can easily see China as an enemy just like it isn’t hard to see why China can easily see “the west” as an enemy.

          People on both sides need to understand each others’ fears if they ever hope to allay them.

    • Paulos

      Hi Stefan, I understand where you’re coming from, but viewing Chinese history in the context of this past century is like viewing American history in the context of this past week.

      When people view China as one of history’s aggressors rather than one of history’s victims, they’re usually looking at events that date back millennia, often starting as far back as the Zhou.

      1002 BC: King Kang of Western Zhou invades present-day Mongolia.
      985 BC: King Zhao of Western Zhou invades present-day Hubei and Anhui.
      964 BC: King Mu of Western Zhou invades present-day Qinghai.
      960 BC: King Mu of Western Zhou invades the Kunlun Mountain region.
      845 BC: King Li of Western Zhou invades Huai River Valley region.
      822 BC: King Xuan of Western Zhou completes conquest of Huai River Valley region.

      It goes on and on throughout the centuries, especially if you consider the Yuan and Qing dynasties to be truly Chinese. After all, we are talking about the culture that produced The Art of War.

      Anyway, I agree that this cartoon was tasteless, but I think Chinese people should be more confident and at least acknowledge their military history.

      • Kai

        This isn’t directed at you personally so don’t misunderstand but I want to say I think people (including Chinese people) should be consistent with how much history they associate with the modern Chinese nation and society.

        On one hand you have people scoffing at China’s claim to 5000 years of civilization and then you have people bringing up China’s thousands of years of fuedal warfare as evidence of modern China being a nation with a history of warmongering. Arguments of hypocrisy are thrown about as a result.

        Modern China has about as much to do with Western Zhou as modern Europe has to do with the Roman Empire. Every major modern society traces back to an unsavory history of warfare. We merely use changing kingdom or country names to arbitrarily define which histories we want to identify with and/or be associated with, out of convenience for the present argument.

        That said, China doesn’t have anything like the Iraq or Afghanistan War in recent history but any suggestion that modern PRC China is somehow an inherently peaceful country that won’t go to war for its interests is pretty damn retarded.

        • Germandude

          Modern China has about as much to do with Western Zhou as modern Europe has to do with the Roman Empire

          Are you sure about that? Of all the empires, kingdoms, leaders there were in the world, I would argue that the Romans were the ones with the most impact in the world up to now. You can see Roman culture, architecture and influence (in societies, laws, traditions, values) up until today.

          • Kai

            My statement there doesn’t preclude your point. You understood my point though, right? I’m just pointing out that people associate and disassociate with aspects of everything their current society inherited from the past based on rhetorical convenience.

          • wes707

            Or like the senate for example. Last time I checked many countries today have senates. Washington D.C. is basically trying to emulate Ancient Rome in architectural style.
            http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/534333/Senate

            Also, natural science and democracy are directly related to Ancient Greek philosophy. This is an excellent lecture from a Yale professor about the ways in which Ancient Greece has shaped the modern world. As you know, Rome was greatly shaped by Hellenic culture.

          • Germandude

            Yes. Pleae forgive me that I didn’t list everything. That would have simply been a too long essay. You are right with all your examples.

            Amazing, those Romans, aren’t they?

        • Paulos

          I hear you, and I don’t mean to single out China, so I’ll just put it out there that I view all the major world players today as inherently hawkish. Statistical analysis proves that assertive behavior is the most successful strategy in almost any type of contest, so unfortunately it’s only natural that all the doves have been eliminated by this point in the game.

          One of the reasons I respect Mozi so much is that I think he understood game theory and tried to create conditions to reverse the advantages of aggressiveness rather than simply appealing to ideals, but I digress…

          Though we may disagree on how deep a connection we share between ancient and modern (to me there is a profound link between Rome and the modern West), I agree that some sort of standard should be reached with regard to how much history we carry around.

          I think the problem is historiography. Ban Gu’s dynastic cycle approach is fundamentally different from von Ranke’s source-based approach. It’d be interesting to see an interpretation of Western history based on Ban’s system with America as the present-day dynasty of the Greco-Roman culture and vice versa; because until we all get on the same page I expect this kind of confusion on historical issues to continue.

        • wes707

          “Modern China has about as much to do with Western Zhou as modern Europe has to do with the Roman Empire.”

          I wanted to post this again for you to see as our thread is buried now:

          Did you ever attend university? Latin was used (Latin: usus) as the universal (Latin: universus) language (Latin: lingua) of scholars (Latin: schola) in universities (Latin: universitas) for almost a millennium (Latin: millennium). My university diploma (Latin: diploma) is written in Latin. The motto of my alma mater (Latin for: mother goddesses, such as Ceres and Cybele) is: Leges sine moribus vanae (Latin for: Laws without morals are in vain). The Pope (Greek: pappas) and Roman Catholic (Greek: katholikos) priests (Latin: prester) still speak and write using Latin. The Catholic church has its origins (Latin: oriri ) from Constantine the Great’s conversion (Latin: conversionem) to Christianity (Latin: Christianus) and the legalization (Latin: legalis) Christian worship in 313AD. Did you know Pope Francis is the 266th Pope?

          What about the Roman Republic (Latin: res publica) and its senate (Latin: senatus)? For example (Latin: exemplum), the following countries are currently either republics with senates, or constitutional (Latin: constitutio) monarchies (Latin: monarcha) with senates: Afghanistan, Argentina, Australia, Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Belize, Bolivia, Brazil, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Czech Republic, Dominican Republic, Egypt, Fiji, France, Gabon, Grenada, Haiti, Ireland, Italy, Jamaica, Jordan, Kenya, Kazakhstan, Lesotho, Liberia, Madagascar, Malaysia, Mexico, Netherlands, Nigeria, Palau, Pakistan, Paraguay, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Russia, Rwanda, Saint Lucia, Senegal, Spain, Swaziland, Thailand, Trinidad and Tobago, United States, Uruguay, and Zimbabwe.
          http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/857952/Roman-Republic
          http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/534333/Senate

          The city (Latin: civis) of Washington D.C. basically (Latin: basis) emulates (Latin: aemulus) Ancient Rome in architectural (Latin: architectura) style (Latin: stilus), same with other European (Latin: Europa) capitals (Latin: capitalis). Have you ever been in (Latin: intra) the US Capitol? There’s more Roman symbolism (Latin: symbolum) than you would believe, such as bronze fasces flanking the US flag behind the rostrum (Latin for: orator’s platform) in the House Chamber (Latin: camera).
          http://history.house.gov/Exhibitions-and-Publications/House-Chamber/Rostrum-Flag/
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces

          Have you noticed (Latin: notus) these Latin phrases (Latin: phrase) on US currency (Latin: currens):
          E PLURIBUS UNUM – One from many.
          ANNUIT COEPTIS – Fortune (Latin: fortuna) has favored (Latin: favere) our undertakings.
          NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM – A new (Latin: novus) order (Latin: ordo) of the ages.

          Also, natural (Latin: natura) science (Latin: scientia) and democracy (Greek: dēmokratía) are directly related (Latin: referre) to Ancient Greek philosophy (Greek: philosophia). As you know, Rome was greatly shaped by Hellenic culture (Latin: cultura). This is an excellent (Latin: excellentem) lecture (Latin: lectus) from a Yale (Latin university motto: Lux et veritas “Light and truth”) professor (Latin: professor) about the ways in which Ancient Greece has shaped the modern (Latin: modernus) world:

          Your comment (Latin: commentum) is riddled with Latin words, or maybe it has not dawned on you that you speak a language (Latin: lingua) directly connected (Latin: conectere) to the Roman Empire (Latin: imperium). I suggest (Latin: suggestus) you go take a look at a legal (Latin: legalis) dictionary (Latin: dictionarium) and a medical (Latin: medicus) dictionary because about 90% of it is based (Latin: basis) on Latin and Greek. Chinese pinyin also uses (Latin: usus) the Latin alphabet (Greek: alphabētos).

          • Kai

            See my earlier response to Germandude. You seem to have misinterpreted my point.

            Also, use @Kai in comments not made in direct response to me that you want to draw my attention to. It’s better than reposting the same comment. The moment you type @, a list of names will appear for you to pick from. When you then post that comment, the person you @’d will get a notification directing them to your comment.

          • wes707

            Thanks for letting me know.

  • bujiebuke

    Speaking purely as an anime fan, the production quality of the trailer appears quite poor and hastily done. If the film is anything like the naruto movies that the producers crapped out over the years, then I don’t think it would be well received by the general audience. The only people who would enjoy watching this would be the yakuza, people who support the conservative LDP, and Chinasmack trolls.

    It also ironically portrays what Japan did to China in WWII, as several people have already pointed out.

    • Nick in Beijing

      I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it’s portrayed that way because some people in Japan are afraid that if the Chinese were to invade Japan, they’d commit the same atrocities simply out of spite.

      • linette lee

        That will never happen. The Chinese are upset and completely disgusted with what the Japanese soldiers did during WWII. It was gruesome and disgusting. Why would they want to commit such gruesome crime. It’s unthinkable.

        • biggj

          At least they did it to another countries people and not themselves like the chinese did.

          • linette lee

            I am not sure if the Chinese soldiers ever play slicing baby heads off game with samurai swords. Or slice the baby out of pregnant women game. The Japanese soldiers were having too much fun enjoying using their samurai swords during wwII. Plus all the gruesome things they did. Gang rape children also. Just really twisted and sick. No too many people can do things that twisted.

          • wes707

            The Chinese execution practice of “death by a thousand cuts” ended only in 1905.

          • Jobjed

            Reserved for those convicted of treason or murder, not civilians of another country.

          • wes707

            http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Martyrerp_2.jpg
            An 1858 illustration from the French newspaper, Le Monde Illustré, of the torture and execution of a French missionary in China by slow slicing.

            Really?

          • TheSOP

            The .5RMB went strangely quiet???

          • Jobjed

            “French” newspaper. Oh yes, because we all know how French people never lie and will definitely tell the truth. Or maybe, just maybe, that this picture is supposed to intentionally smear the image of East Asians like EVERY other media outlet in the West at the time. Actually, they haven’t stopped.

          • Kai

            Neither suspicion nor skepticism is a refutation.

          • linette lee

            That’s separate matter. Look at Spain, England etc..they all had some gruesome execution devices. And that is just sick. In the old days no TV or internet people kill and torture for fun. Very sick and twisted.

          • wes707

            Yes, but you were implying that Chinese soldiers were incapable of such gruesome acts.

          • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

            Not for fun. Torturing was designed to get people to confess, the point being pain will convince them to relinquish what the torturer wanted to hear. In most cases, that was “I am a heretic, I repent”.

            The Gruesome executions were not for fun either, that went out the window after the Roman Empire got its first Christian Emperor. Painful, gory executions are designed to spread fear in the populace. It sends the message “Do not disobey me.”

          • Jahar

            During the Japanese invasions of Korea 400 years ago the Koreans were more afraid of their Chinese allies than the invaders. Also, there have been cruel people in every country, doing cruel things, since countries began. If you think China was exempt, for some reason, then you are sorely mistaken.

          • TheSOP

            What do you think the Red Guards were doing during the Cultural Revolution? Some pretty brutal shit. How about the Anti-Rightist campaign? How about the Great Leap Forward? How about the invasion and occupation of Tibet, Xinjiang and other non-Chinese lands?

          • Zappa Frank

            you overestimate humanity, in the same shoes, in a war, when not strictly controlled, almost everyone become a beast. that’s why we should avoid war.

          • linette lee

            I agree, we should avoid war at all costs. All nations should find other ways to come to an agreement and not use violence or war or invasion.

          • carlstar

            “linette lee to Zappa Frank
            −I agree, we should avoid war at all costs. All nations should find other ways to come to an agreement and not use violence or war or invasion.”

            This is the most hypocritical comment yet.

            You constantly preach how dangerous Japan is and by doing so you become part of the group that “wants war at all costs”. People inside China hear this sort of thing along with “what if Japan had bombs and lasers and the death star” and then they get scared which fuels the case of military advancement and expansion which is the actual reality in China today.

            Drop the made up facts you seem to have coming out of your ass like you have diarrhoea and remember that isn’t the Japanese that are blocked from learning from other nations and cultures. Are also not the ones that have re education camps, executions for those that go against the political forces, they also don’t have 400 nuclear weapons, occupied what were nations up to a few decades ago, have designs on other sovereign nations today and others borders, practice cultural and ethnic genocide, unable to accept one of the many different apologises for something that happened a few generations ago and the most important thing is…

            What IF. What if is the most ridiculous and pointless argument. It is baseless and unfounded propaganda designed to only fool those of a low to mid intelligence. What if I had a nuclear powered penis that let me impregnate woman with robots for my robot army of doom?

            You are begging for conflict but all you arguments and what ifs are ludicrous. What else does someone like you have? You have war. The only thing you could use to justify your position.

          • linette lee

            I am not saying Japan is dangerous. I am saying Japan, China, and USA are all equally dangerous.

          • carlstar

            you believe what you want. Facts come out of what one does and says. Rhetoric is for those of the lying professions, politics and the like and you are not good at it, as you say one thing and then say you are another. You are in no way equal. You would be the perfect candidate for news organisations in the US.

            Fun fact. Equal means the same. level. impartial. tranquil. undisturbed. balanced. of the same rank.

        • Nick in Beijing

          It is unthinkable to you that a nation of a shared heritage and ethnicity would do something so evil. That doesn’t make it impossible.

          We all saw what happened when Japan nationalized a few spits of rock in the middle of the ocean that has precisely no relationship to the average Chinese citizen. Rioting and violence on Chinese streets committed by Chinese people against other Chinese people simply because those Chinese people were using Japanese made products (even though most were assembled in China). They were only hurting themselves with those riots, not the Japanese nation.

          Now imagine what the average Chinese frothing-at-the-mouth nationalist would do in the midst of blood rage, being cheered on by comrades after successfully sacking a small Japanese town against actual flesh and blood Japanese.

          Not to mention the sheer numbers of Chinese soldiers that would likely be present.

          The way I see little Chinese kids behave in regards to war and violence, it disturbs me deeply. It is more common than not to hear 7 year old Chinese kids talking about massacring Japanese just as nonchalantly as if they’re talking about fictitious video game battles.

          • linette lee

            Those little Chinese kids that behave so violently toward Japanese people where are they? Are they in big china cities? Their parents and school teachers must be retards. That’s another thing, the China schools hire all these retards teachers teaching poison to china kids. The whole communist structure the public school system to teach poison to china children. When these china kids grow up and start using the internet outside Chinese internet, they will have their eyes open the first time to the rest of the world. That is why china gov’t try to contain the internet and block google and yahoo. The china people can’t even post on Hong kong Yahoo to chat with Hk people.

          • Nick in Beijing

            Well Linette, those retards are raising the next generation of Chinese leaders. Those kids’ parents are government and business leaders as well as semi-ordinary people.

            The peasants in the countryside are not hard to inflame, and just like a gun are simply pointed in the direction that you want to attack. Send them forth and they attack. That’s all. Doesn’t matter what part of the country they are from.

          • linette lee

            I don’t have any experience dealing with China folks living inside China, but I have plenty experience dealing with China Chinese living in HK and America and they are reasonable and not racist against Japan or Japanese people. Most of them don’t agree with Japan politicians and how they handle diaoyu dao. None of them are violent to Japanese or anything made in japan.

          • Nick in Beijing

            Yeah. Those Chinese aren’t going to be enlisting in the Chinese military, or being drafted by the Chinese government in a military expedition to Japan.

            Apples and oranges Linette.

          • TheSOP

            You need to get to dalu more often. It is the masses and their herd behavior which is so scary.

          • Jahar

            also, the countryside includes all the second tier and third tier cities.

        • TheSOP

          Tibetans and other occupied Asians whose homes have been colonized by China might not find it so hard to believe.

        • David

          It might be unthinkable to you (because your a peaceful person) but it was probably unthinkable (and still unbelievable) to Japanese civilians that some of their “brave and honorable” soldiers could commit such acts.

      • linette lee

        Let say USA and UN right now allow Japan to expand their military power to the same size like USA and allow Japan to have nuclear weapons with atomic bombs and biochemical weapons. What do you think will happen to the world?

        • Germandude

          linette,

          how realistic is it that Japan will ever be able to afford a military only half the size of that of the US?

          Very unrealistic and therefore, not worth discussing.

          I still think that if the Japanese would finally step up and admit their war athrocities and apologize for them, a lot of tension between China and Japan would shrivel away.

          • linette lee

            But if Japan ever do have military the same size of USA or China with atomic bombs. And biochemical weapons remember Unit 731.

            What do you think will happen right now in 2013?

          • Germandude

            Nothing will happen in 2013.

            And again, it’s not worth discussing what WOULD happen IF Japan had the same military size as the US. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Why even discussing it?

            I understand your hurt feelings (as an Asian) towards the war atrocities the Japanese have comitted in WW 2. However, these ain’t the 1930s anymore. It’s 2013. Many things changed and Japan is nowhere near the same position of being able to invade another country. Not even speaking of if Japan even had the idea to do so.

            Again: I still think that Japan MUST apologize for its war crimes.

          • linette lee

            If you think Chinese culture are racist and Xenophobia, Japanese culture are worst. They believe in pure blood. The Chinese culture believe everything in Asia is originally from China 5000 years of history. They believe in Cultural assimilation. They will try to turn every Asians into Chinese. The Japanese will try to kill anything that’s not Japanese. lol.

          • Germandude

            Oh dear…

          • linette lee

            hahahahah…… keke.

          • mr.wiener

            walk away…don’t make eye contact.

          • Germandude

            Roger that sir. Thanks for your advice.

          • mr.wiener

            “Roger that”?…..There is no way I would Roger that :)

            {“Roger” can also be a verb meaning to screw.Rather old slang English related to the fact that the name Roger/Rogier means “spear carrier”}

          • linette lee

            HAHAHAHAH….LOL

          • Nessquick Choco

            arschloch

          • Germandude

            Will you charge me for English lessons or is the first one a free trial? ;-)

          • mr.wiener

            I’ll trade you for something rude in German.

          • Germandude

            Which word would you like to learn?

          • mr.wiener

            How about “I would rather be torn apart by wild pigs than Roger Linette”.

          • TheSOP

            Get a few beers in ya and I bet you’d roger right up beside’er eh laddy!

          • mr.wiener

            I have NEVER been that drunk.

          • TheSOP

            Oh we’ve all been that drunk :P perhaps if you slipped some botox into her drink it would render her tongue inoperable? A nice quiet night staring into her sultry eyes, you know you cant resist the charm of L-Chan (thats her new Japanese nickname, pronounced E-RU-Chan)

          • mr.wiener

            I get that drunk it would be like forcing a marshmallow into a piggy-bank coin slot. Thank God for foster’s flop, it has saved me from many rude awakenings
            Linette is being sane at the moment, lets encourage her, hmm?

          • TheSOP

            Foster flop eh!? Whiskey be the only poison capable of banishing my dragon, which has also saved me from a few awkward mornings as well!

          • Germandude

            You really want me to translate that? R u serious?

          • mr.wiener

            Kidding, I just want something to yell at my German friends the next time they fumble a pass at rugby.
            In English I would say something like: “Do you have tits for hands?!”

          • Germandude

            “Oh Gott, was ein Depp” (speak: Oh got, wahs eyen Depp)

            =

            Oh god, what a fool.

            Hope that helps.

          • TheSOP

            Un DeppenShaizzer! Thats how I;ll translate dipshit in German :P

          • Germandude

            Dipshit = Arschgeige

            Dude, I don’t know how to give you a pronounciation for that.

          • TheSOP

            Lol, yea that looks like a pirate coughed on your keyboard lol… DeppenShaizzer, now that I can pronounce ;P!

          • Germandude

            “looks like a pirate coughed on your keyboard”

            Now I don’t know what’s considered ordinary in your neighborhood, but pirates coughing on your keyboard were a reason for me to search for a new environment. ;-)

          • TheSOP

            And this racist BS is why no one takes you seriously, would be laughable if it werent for the fact that so many of your fellow mainland countrymen were equally brainwashed.

            I guess you have no Japanese friends?

          • nqk123

            cultural assimilation? you mean moving a bunch of han chinese in to take over their lands and businesses. forcing the native to be dependent on the new owner.

          • linette lee

            Sounds like America. White men moved in and natives lost lands. lol.

          • nqk123

            yup, pretty much so. only difference is the white men never deny it. to compensate:reservation lands (0 taxes casino and businesses), health care, education, etc all free.

          • linette lee

            But the white folks back then killed most of the native already. Not much left of the native. And I am not saying China is any better than USA.

          • nqk123

            not much left? there are 112 or more tribes left. some of the land reservation are bigger than the state of rhode island. also, I agree with the statement that white folks killed most of the native whether it’s direct or indirect. Indirect: 60-80% were killed thank the plague white people brought. direct: US establishment and expansion westward.

          • TheSOP

            You really dont know much about the land whose passport you grabbed on to do you? Educate yourself a little

          • TheSOP

            I want you to make some Japanese friends, oh maybe a Japanese boyfriend would be good :) then lets have a talk, alright little dear? (*pats L on the head)

          • David

            lol Well, Linette, some people would say turning everything in Asia into Chinese is not so great either. :)

          • TheSOP

            As part of your assimilation into Japanese culture to make friends we should give you a proper Japanese nickname. How about “L-Chan” エルーちゃん?

          • Jahar

            let me guess, you found this info on a Chinese blog…or learned it in Chinese school

          • linette lee

            No, I understand how all east asian culture works.

          • Jahar

            so you were just born with this understanding? it’s not based on any facts? That doesn’t make you sound like an ignorant racist.

          • TheSOP

            There is no such thing as “East Asian culture” such things are only said by Westerners or Asians who have never been to more than one Asian country.

          • Nessquick Choco

            ouh, you have 5000years old rocket science and super computers, come on :-DDD

          • David

            Well, I would not say it will NEVER happen, but not anytime soon (next 20 years). While many Japanese do want a normalization of their military to occur, the vast majority want nothing to do with nuclear weapons. That being said, we never know what a new generation will bring and as long as it is not inflammatory or meant to be used for trolling, there is nothing wrong with discussing theoretical.

          • TheSOP

            Who cares, we can see China;s behavior is the one to worry about. Japan is declining, population and in other areas. China is the main threat to East Asia’s peace and prosperity.

          • Zappa Frank

            NOTHING

          • Jahar

            While we are on the subject of imaginary nonsense, ill tell you right now. If i had a military the size of china with nuclear bombs, i would without question invade china and try to overthrow the government.

          • If I had a vagina, I’d be a woman.

          • nqk123

            even if the Jap admit and apologize, I have high doubt it will change anything.

          • Germandude

            That would give the Japanese a hgher moral ground and immediately push the ball towards China.
            The world would appreciate such an act and judge China more by its actions. No more deflecting the topic with “but the Japanese were brutal and never apologized”. This would lead people to believe into:”One folk has comitted a crime, but recognized its wrong doings. While the other country, that happened to be a victim of such crime, now calls out for new crimes”.

          • Gordon Gogodancer

            That’s a good point

        • Nick in Beijing

          Let’s try something else, Linette. Let’s take a look at what is ACTUALLY happening, not hypothetical situations.

          China’s military is ACTUALLY very large. China as a nation HAS a long history of militarism and mobilization (even if Chinese don’t acknowledge it). China HAS taken part in numerous conflicts over the last 60 years, often supporting repressive and violent regimes. China IS expanding it’s military at an alarming rate, China IS flexing this new military muscle against regional enemies that are essentially helpless against China. China IS currently granting it’s military greater free-reign in what China views as Chinese territory (regardless of whether or not it infringes on another country’s EEZ). China’s fundamental education includes radical views of history and current events that instills deep seated hatred in it’s children while entirely omitting China’s own historical atrocities. Military leaders in China HAVE made public claims that China will eventually mobilize it’s military against regional and global enemies (The China Dream, anybody? The book, not Xi’s ridiculous slogan).

          Hypothetical situations are well and good, but not nearly as interesting as reality.

        • TheSOP

          Have you ever been to Japan? You seem to be bitterly racist against the Japanese.

          Now lets take your hypothesis and apply it to the PRC; we can see they are not even close but still their behavior is increasingly belligerent, expansionist, and imperialistic.

        • David S.

          Miss Lee’s ability to re-enact the Banqiao Dam collapse on this forum will never cease to impress me. :)

      • bujiebuke

        While it’s certainly true that China does have crazy nationalists who go apeshit over minor insults to their country, most Chinese simply do not give two shits about world politics and would rather worry about what they’re going to have for dinner. In a similar way, you have your yakuza nationalists and flag waving LDP supporters in Japan, but I honestly believe these are a loud and vocal minority. Most Japanese are content on being playing video games and watching upskirt videos.

        Point is, the notion of China and Japan going to war is unlikely. Both countries have been on friendly terms for hundreds of years (except recently), and still rely on each other for trade. China, despite it’s military muscle flexing, is in no position to engage a war with any country – it would cost a great deal of resources that they do not have and should they lose, it would open the door to rejecting the current power structure.

    • TheSOP

      Yea, production values look like shit. I guess you can get an anime made for pennies on the dollar now days given the size of the industry. But then again compared to the rubbish that occupies the PRC’s airwaves its not that bad actually.

    • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

      I do find it funny that China is the nazis, given that we all know who was bratwurst Japan was sucking on back in WWII.

      If anything I would think if they needed an over the top villain, they should have made China a more Stalinist Russia kind of character.

  • stevelaudig

    Most recent cartoons from Weimar Japan. It’s only taken the Japanese Ruling Class 60 years to begin returning to their Shintoist/fascist roots.

  • the ace of books

    >The film was written by Ryuho Okawa who famously founded the controversial Happy Science religious sect
    >Ryuho Okawa who famously founded the controversial Happy Science religious sect
    >Happy Science

    I don’t know how anyone could take something like Happy Science seriously. It’s like if someone says they earnestly read and enjoy the non-SF books of L Ron Hubbard: it’s an instant cue of “aha! one of those!”

    Anyway, this sounds like more nihonjinron here, except of a militaristic bent. Glad netizen comments aren’t taking it seriously, because – just no.

    • David

      From the comments it apparently is not that good of a story. I mean it is fine to have stories of large countries (the U.S., Soviet Union, China) as the bad guys, but do it well with a good story and people will be less upset. It does not sound like the story here is worth watching.

      • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

        Yeah, a good way to do it was Battlefield 4. The story overall was bland as hell but the incorporation of the American/Chinese conflict was sorta believable without making either side look like an over the top villain.

        • Kai

          Kinda like World War Z.

          • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

            Yeah, just no zombies. You know, like the movie World War Z.

          • Kai

            Heh, depends on how you define zombies I guess, but that’s a bit of a geek topic.

    • Guest23

      They’ve went from Science of Happiness to Happy Science, I remember that cult having a rivalry with Aum Shinrikyo, which isn’t so surprising.

      On a technical aspect, so many things wrong in that movie to even be considered science-fiction, more like fan-fiction level plot, glad they aren’t taking it too seriously.

  • Nick in Beijing

    If comments made by average netizens (as translated by China Smack) are any indication, then this is probably not very far off from how the average raving Chinese nationalist see themselves.

    • Alex Dương

      Has staying in Beijing for so long made you forget how to read English? Several of the comments treated the anime as the equivalent of anti-Japanese dramas.

      • Nick in Beijing

        Has spending your time writing sarcastic replies to strangers online made you forget that this isn’t the only article containing translated Chinese netizen comments on China Smack (or other similar websites)?

        • Alex Dương

          O…K…and your point is?

          • Nick in Beijing

            My point is I was referring to a trend in commenting, not this one article.

          • Alex Dương

            And what trend would that be? In every set of comments on political issues that chinasmack translates, you can find jingoists and more level headed people.

  • Nick in Beijing

    This isn’t the first time I’ve heard direct comparisons between the rise of China and the rise of Nazi Germany.

    Come to think of it, it’s not even the 50th time.

    • TheSOP

      History repeats itself, the cast and characters just change between sets.

      • Stefan Xu

        But the Chinese government said it wants peace.

        • TheSOP

          Stop trolling me you funny bastard!

          • wes707
          • TheSOP

            Nice~ I’ve been reading Bloomberg for awhile and I’ve noticed them also. Fun to take the piss out of them thats for sure.

          • wes707

            Yeah, it’s a bit disconcerting that they’re on every fucking article concerning China…

          • TheSOP

            Even CNN and Time seems to be affected. They own the economist already.

          • TheSOP

            They are stalking me like crazy now, if I post a comment within one minute it will have 2-3 down votes. That is quite interesting, it shows they think you are a threat.

        • wes707

          God Stefan, you sound so hopelessly naive.

          • Stefan Xu

            I was a bit sarcastic there…

          • wes707

            Sorry, I’m just used to your idiotic Chinese tribalism.

          • Stefan Xu

            I’m not a Chinese tribalist. That was just pretending to be one. So don’t care about those posts. I explained this last week but maybe you missed it?

          • Germandude

            That was just pretending to be one.

            Remember that last week it was you promising to stop trolling? And here you go again. It’s getting old real fast.

          • Stefan Xu

            No it was not a again, I just explained to him since he didn’t know that I pretended last week. Not everybody read my promising last week.

          • Stefan Xu

            I just explained that I pretended last week and I don’t do it anymore.

          • TheSOP

            I honestly cant find that line between your sarcasm and your naivety sometimes :P

  • Nick in Beijing

    I Won’t say anything in regards to whether or not Japan’s government should officially apologize or not.

    When I was working in Japanese public school, there was an entire 7 day period dedicated to remembering Japanese war atrocities.

    The school administration asked me to relinquish my classroom for this 7 day period since I had the largest classroom in the school. They gave me 7 days of paid leave where I only needed to come to clock in in the morning and clock out in the evening, but was otherwise free to do what I wanted except during the opening and closing ceremonies of this period of remembrance.

    During this 7 days they literally covered the walls and floors of my classroom with photographs of the aftermath of Japanese brutality against China and other nations.

    I stayed for a few of the student tours through the photos, and listened to the lectures the teachers gave the students as to why such atrocities should never be committed again, and the students were asked to write essays talking about their feelings after seeing and hearing these.

    It was humbling to see.

    I also walked through the Nagasaki Atomic Bomb Memorial. At the end of a long, soul-scarring tour through the exhibits that showed Japanese citizens’ suffering in the weeks and months following the bombing there was a plaque advocating for peace in the future, forgiving the American government for using such terrible weapons against Japan, and making a statement that the horror of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were provoked by Japans own actions.

    Anyone who says the people of Japan lack humility towards the terrors of WW2 can kiss my ass.

    • nqk123

      I can confirm this. I know this through an international student from Japan. this topic was brought up because of the news surrounding China vs Japan

    • PierreNsv22

      if their atrocities really are taught in schools as you say they are, it only makes the japanese who deny it or “don’t know” about it even more disgusting. are they just feigning ignorance? i’ve always assumed its because they weren’t taught so i cut them some slack but if they knowingly try to delude themselves….

      • nqk123

        1995 Japanese Emperor Akihito and prime minister Tomiichi Murayama did officially apologized for the incident. But the Chinese felt that it was not sincere. Since then, the LDP (conservative group control Japan) denied the incident. people denying it are usually hard liner conservative. They old people, very old people. the general public most never denied it

        • Alex Dương

          So how did Ishihara Shintaro keep getting re-elected until he finally voluntarily stepped down? Do young people in Tokyo not vote?

          • nqk123

            you might want to ask the Japanese native where he was governor. he must have done something right. maybe he cut taxes or something? do you expect me to do research for you?

          • Alex Dương

            If you don’t want to have a discussion, you don’t have to comment.

          • nqk123

            didn’t mean anything bad. I don’t know if you are a US citizen or not. But if you are, search for “ALEC conservative group.” it will be very interesting for you/American public.

    • lonetrey / Dan

      Wow… I had no idea.

      I’ve thought all this time that no one knew about the events in the war.

      Thank you for sharing this with us, Nick.

      • Jobjed

        People do know about the war in Japan, but few are willing to admit or even know of the full extent of their atrocities. Some do admit them, however; in fact, a former PM of Japan has shown the remorse that Korea and China expects from every Japanese PM. The news article can be seen here; http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1355427/former-japanese-pm-yukio-hatoyama-apologises-atrocities-china?page=all

        You can see by the way the defence minister is calling him a ‘traitor’ how the rest of Japan is dealing with this issue. Oh wait, did I say ‘dealing’? I meant denying. He is also against the Japan-US alliance although Chinese and Koreans are not concerned with that. The Japan-US alliance was understandable given Cold War circumstances. What is not understandable is just how most of Japan can have the audacity to not admit their crimes.

        And yes, I saw Nick’s post, but pictures only convey the devastation of that ONE particular scene. Another important part are the statistics, and those are what Japan is denying; they are denying the scale of their brutality. Pictures depict the level of brutality, statistics reveal the SCALE of the brutality. Admitting one without admitting the other is still a half-arsed apology, if an apology at all.

        • TheSOP

          Hatoyama is an anti-American has been who excels only at being a CCP lapdog. He represents a very minority view in Japan, not about the war, most Japanese recognize the wrongs that they committed, where Hatoyama is different is in his completely writing off Chinese responsibility for the current situation. Hatoyama’s main driver has always been his pan-East Asian nationalism and his anti-Americanism, he is like a reciprocal of Ishihara in a way. Hatoyama may go kowtow in China but he has become irrelevant in Japan, and rightfully so. Japanese recognize that although they are open about history the CCP isnt interested in apologies they are only interested in using history as a bludgeoning tool against Japan while simultaneously covering up the CCP own extremely bloody history that in fact surpasses Imperial Japan in its brutality and body count. Hatoyama and his mindset are dangerous for Japan, just as much as Abe is, Japanese need to find the middle ground.

          • Jobjed

            “Hatoyama is an anti-American”. Which is why you hate him so much and refuse to even bothering to consider his viewpoints. Basically sums you up, SOP; if they don’t agree with me, they’re morons and I must insult them. Don’t bother even justifying yourself anymore, you’re as stupid as creationists but worse in that you’re even more self-righteous.

          • TheSOP

            You are a moron, that much is agreeable.

          • Jobjed

            Nah, you’re just a c*nt.

          • TheSOP

            Yes, you are that as well although I have a feeling you arent getting any!

          • Jobjed

            Ohhh nice…. you just went even further with the personal insults; you have now delved into the realm of ‘sexual insults’. More concrete proof you’re just an idiot with a huge ego and tiny brain, just like footy players… I mean handegg players.

          • TheSOP

            Oh but here you are coming back again to wave around your insecurities to the world! Fark off already, you have nothing to offer this world, return from the hole whence you came tosser.

          • Jobjed

            Oh, so you’re into demanding people leave areas that they have the right to be in? Yeah, sounds like something cunts like you would do.

        • TheSOP

          And Chinese lecturing on history is a most ridiculous laughable thing. Japan has nothing next to the PRC’s wide scale historical revisionism. Maybe you all should apologize for the CCP/PLA invading independent Asian countries, killing off 10s of millions of Chinese, and stealing the lands and seas of Southeast Asians??? How about that? Then open your mouth, until then just shut your yapper.

          • Andrew

            Is that all you know about Chinese history? Since it seems to me that you’ve been repeating certain claims for no real reason. Well then I truly admire your courage to put comments here.

          • TheSOP

            No buddy I REALLYYYYYY (like reallly really) admire your courage to post such muddled ridiculous, nonsensical blather on here and still have the balls to show your sad face, you da man brahhhhhhh

        • TheSOP

          Maybe we can get Hu Jintao to travel to Arunachal Pradesh and give a speech apologizing to Tibet for China’s invasion and colonization of their free nation, maybe he can also talk about the wrongs of the CCP in killing 10s of millions on Chinese in the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, the Anti-Rightist campaigns etc. Moron

          • Alex Dương

            Whatever happened to Mr. “I am for the status quo”?

          • TheSOP

            I’m for the status quo, but when a colonizer cant even treat the people its colonized with the most basic respect then we should begin to question their presence. You are all for freedom so I am sure you will understand, it would be terrible if people got the impression you just were a CCP ass kisser because of your ethnic background, unable to separate your ethnic allegiances from rational thought, but dont worry I’m sure you are not one of those types.

          • Alex Dương

            The most basic respect? What’s that? I already told you that I agree there is a huge difference between California and Tibet: California has long since been fully assimilated into the U.S.

            Of course, that’s not the answer you want to hear because it screws up your narrative. And let’s be 100% clear: “full assimilation” meant a large scale movement of non-Hispanic whites to California. As recently as 1970, non-Hispanic whites made up 80% of the state’s population. It wasn’t until very recently that non-Hispanic whites became a minority in California.

            Something tells me that if Tibet were to become 80% Han, you’d scream “cultural genocide.”

          • TheSOP

            Dude take your apologetics and relativism elsewhere, it is clear what you and your agenda are all about. We both know Tibet is nothing like California, the native people of Tibet are colonized by Han Chinese and sit in their own lands under the barrels of guns held by Han PLA soldiers. California could not be further from that and you know it. Seriously if you are so petty is to let your ethnicity blind you then I have no use talking with you. Imperialism has been judged an immoral practice and Europeans and Japanese have all recognized this. Only China is still invading and colonizing lands not its own in the 21st century. If it actually treated the people whose lands they stole with respect it might be a different story but you know that is not the case. Bye now

          • Alex Dương

            Tibet is 93% Tibetan. Is California 93% Chicano? No? Then yeah, Tibet is nothing like California.

            California used to be 80% non-Hispanic white. Has Tibet ever been 80% Han? No? Then yeah, Tibet is nothing like California.

            You’re a hypocrite, plain and simple. You apply one set of rules to the U.S. and a different set of rules to China. I apply the same set of rules to both: I don’t call California colonized territory.

          • TheSOP

            No you are an apologist for a imperialist dictatorial regime, plain and simple. You cant see beyond your ethnicity, your petty allegiances making you feel as if you are losing face when the obvious truth is pointed out. California is a free liberal state with a diverse population, people dont live in fear under the muzzles of a foreign ethnic invader, completely the opposite of Tibet today. You are an utter hypocrite only worried about currying face for brutal thugs because they happen to share the same ethnicity as you, you are a moral failure as a human being.

          • Alex Dương

            You can say whatever you want about me. I could care less. You lost all credibility with your childish name calling when you actually tried to argue with a straight face that a native Taiwanese guy raised during KMT one-party rule in Taiwan is in reality “very pro-PRC.”

            You’re a hypocrite. And like everybody else, you don’t like it when people call you out on your hypocrisy. If China did to Tibet what was done in California over 150 years ago, you’d scream and call it “cultural genocide.” But it remains that Tibet is 93% Tibetan whereas as recently as 1970, California was 80% non-Hispanic white. I’d bet you’d die from self-righteousness if Tibet were even 40% Han!

            If you want to talk about personal freedom, you don’t need to compare Tibet with California; you can just compare mainland China with the U.S. Of course people in mainland China are much less free than people in the U.S. You have to bring up this red herring because you don’t want to acknowledge the truth: California was only “fully assimilated” because its existing inhabitants became minorities in their own state.

          • TheSOP

            Your apologetics are pathetic, you just keep losing face, not that you had much to begin with. You talk about 150 years ago, I am talking about today. You are grasping so hard its really pathetic. Your sophomoric relativism which props up your apologetics for a dictatorial regime that is actively oppressing millions of people whose lands they have stolen as we speak is deplorable. Talk about having no credibility. And the most pathetic part is how this all ties into your ethnicity and how you let that define you so deeply that you will excuse any behavior by the PRC by trying to rationalize it away using events from 150 years ago as a flimsy counterargument.

            And talk about being a hypocrite, I wouldnt be surprised if you were in California at this very moment, breathing the free air, walking the free streets, enjoying free access to the internet so you can come on here and say how California is the same as Tibet. Really you have zero moral foundation, it is sickening.

          • Alex Dương

            Oh, so not only are you a hypocrite, but you also lack reading comprehension. I never said California is the same as Tibet; to the contrary, I’ve been concurring with you that California is very different from Tibet: Tibet is 93% Tibetan, but California is not 93% Chicano; California was 80% non-Hispanic white as recently as 1970, but Tibet was never 80% Han.

            Why compare Tibet with California if you want to talk about personal freedom? You can just compare the countries, and there’s no comparison. You have to bring up this red herring because you don’t want to admit that you’re a hypocrite.

            And please, don’t be so stupid as to think that what happened 150 years ago has no consequences. What, do you think California was 93% Chicano from 1848 until 1969, and then suddenly in 1970, it became 80% non-Hispanic white? Please. Grow up.

          • TheSOP

            You keep grasping at this relativistic argument, does that make you feel better about defending the immoral actions of a totalitarian regime? Again and again you have to reach back to a 150 year old ‘tu quoque’ to rationalize your apologetics. You and I both know the situation today in California and Tibet are nothing alike yet here you are grasping and grasping looking ever more desperate to equivocate the unequivocal fact that as of today, this very moment, and tomorrow and the day after Tibet is and will be an actively colonized land where the natives live in fear of their lives and safety at the hands of a regime you are intent on defending, both directly and through relativistic rationalizations. That makes you a moral failure as a human being, very very clearly.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

          • Alex Dương

            Are you acknowledging that you’re a hypocrite?

          • TheSOP

            Chicano? You know thats not even an ethnicity right? Its a political identity. Are you ready to acknowledge you are amoral relativist without a case which makes you a simple apologist for a dictatorial regime which is actively at this moment oppressing millions of people while you act as a supporter and thus an accomplice to their morally deplorable behavior?

          • Alex Dương

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnicity

            Hmm, seems to me that Chicanos are “a socially defined category of people who identify with each other based on a shared social experience or ancestry.” What’s wrong? Are you unable to admit that Tibet was never 80% Han?

          • TheSOP

            Yea a socially defined identity is what we call a political identity. And Chincano is a bunch of nonsense, right there with “people of color” and other things that dont exist in the real world. As for your second point; is that a point? Actually I dont care I am done with this nonsense. Seriously relativism, especially in the defense of an amoral dictatorship and as weakly constructed as you laid out, is down right disgusting.

          • Alex Dương

            So all ethnicities are political identities to you? If so, what was the point of this semantic discussion? You were just stalling for time in your ongoing refusal to admit that Tibet was never 80% Han?

            That’s fine. At least you admitted you’re a hypocrite when you mentioned “tu quoque.”

          • TheSOP

            Go to sleep Alex, you’re drunk.

          • TheSOP

            University of California, Ethnic studies or Sociology, they teach this kind of apologetics and moral relatavistic nonsense? Chicano, haha, wow you are off the deep end aren’t you?!

          • Dr Sun

            I don’t know dude, but why don’t you ask David Cameron to apologize to the aborigines and Moriori for colonizing their free countries , king Carlos to do the same in much of south America and Obama to drop on on his knees and beg forgiveness for for the native American genocide.

          • TheSOP

            Sure I’ll get right on that Mr Sun Yat Sen

          • Eddie spaghetti

            The British empire has apologized for the treatment of aboriginals and Maori (Moriori were killed off by the Maori not the British), they have spent billions giving land and subsidies – I know one Maori iwi got over 1billion for past greviences. The governements of those countries have also apologised on many occasions.

          • Dr Sun

            the British Empire has apologized (there is no British Empire now), spent millions giving land back that stole, is not enough.
            But now matter , still waiting for SOP to apologize to native Americans

    • chosan

      Okawa is trying to attract Westerners especially judeo xtians to this japanese cult. hence the use of the swastika. btw the real problem

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/08/tpp-trade-agreement_n_4409211.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D416353

    • linette lee

      Unfortunately so many Japanese deny it and don’t like to talk about it. It’s a shame even when it was taught in their public school system they are still so stubborn and refuse to believe the level of atrocity. And the Japanese politicians constantly making public claims that it didn’t happen is not helping Japan.

      • TheSOP

        エルーちゃん おはいようございます~~

    • linette lee

      Unfortunately so many Japanese deny it and don’t like to talk about it. It’s a shame even when it was taught in their public school system they are still so stubborn and refuse to believe the level of atrocity. And the Japanese politicians constantly making public claims that it didn’t happen is not helping Japan. And that is their culture not admitting faults openly and have too much pride. Can not lose face. They are the same like China. So if you think the Japan culture is any better than China culture that is just laughable. They are just as xenophobia and prejudice or worst. As for the Japan gov’t It is just that Japan is a small country and not in the position to bully other nations. And after WWII they no longer can have nuclear weapons and definitely can’t bully other nations with UN watching. They don’t have lands to increase their population of 130 milions so they will forever be a smaller country compare to China and USA. Japan has much much higher population density than China. A small tiny land they managed to populated to 130 millions. If given more lands they will surely multiply to one billion easy. If Japan is the size of China in terms of lands, population, and military you will have to think twice before making your statements about Japan gov’t and culture.

    • linette lee

      And I am not saying Chinese culture is better than Japanese culture. I am just telling you because I am Asian myself growing up in that East Asian culture so I do understand a lot about it. At the same time I am able to compare East Asian culture with western(UK/America) culture because the city I grew up in is very westernized and now I am living in USA. I can read, write, and speak in both Chinese and English and watch their TV programs so I grew up being exposed to both western and Asian culture and tradition. I can see things in an angle most of you can’t because you didn’t grow up in East Asian culture as little kid. And I am telling you Chinese, Japanese, and Korean cultures are all xenophobia, prejudice, and too much pride. Can’t lose face. It’s just that China is much bigger in terms of land mass and able to increase their population. They have bigger military so they can be a bully when there is dispute. Japan and Korea would be like that too if given the same position like China. When they have enough nuclear power, land, population and don’t need to answer to USA or UN anymore. And that is why USA is smart to keep Korea and Japan as their bxtches to control them keeping them away from China to prevent unity.

      • TheSOP

        Actually the idea of Korea being a super power is a bit scary lol, I’ll give you that much… I see the potential for hubris there that might dwarf even China.

      • Nick in Beijing

        I give up trying to have any balanced discussion regarding Japan with you, Linette.

        It’s sad to see that your ethnic background clouds your judgement from an ocean and multiple cultures away.

        It’s like me saying I am angry at Turkey, and I hate Turkey, and we should all be wary of Turkey’s rise just because my family is of Cretan Greek descent.

        Plain old boring vanilla flavored foolish.

        • linette lee

          You folks are bunch of brainwashed people by the western culture and western media. Only able to look at a picture from one side only. Like the American kids watching Hollywood movies and the USA is always the defender of the world the good guy. Russia, middle east, and China are the bad guys they are communist. Western folks are already too brainwashed by their culture.

          • Zappa Frank

            Chinese aren’t? Japanese aren’t? Koreans aren’t? you aren’t?
            I guess now you’ll come out again that the only one with sufficient knowledge to judge are you because you lived in both east asia and west am I right? Explain me please if you were born in HK and now living in US and therefore you can judge, why people born in US( or western countries, that by the way are by far more different among themselves than north east Asian countries…yes may sounds odd, but china japan and korea are just a part of Asia, not at all the whole Asia, nor the most part) and live in china-jap-korea cannot.
            Most of people here are not even americans, so why should we be brainwashed thinking US is the good guy? to tell the truth no one think that, neither americans believe it. US is just doing what is better for them..the same for china.
            One last question, what is the western culture? and what do you think is the Chinese-Japanese or Korean culture? I think you overestimate the difference.

          • linette lee

            “Chinese aren’t? Japanese aren’t? Koreans aren’t? what is the western culture? and what do you think is the Chinese-Japanese or Korean culture?”

            I am just using the same accusation that most bloggers here like to use on debate. All Chinese are brainwashed when they don’t agree with the western culture. I am glad you point out exactly what I think.

      • lonetrey / Dan

        I feel like your arguments can actually hold some water if they were phrased in a different way. Nonetheless, I do appreciate your viewpoints, Linette; an interesting contrast with the variety of opinions here on CS

    • Teacher in China

      That’s very interesting to hear. I had always heard that the school textbooks did not cover the Nanjing Massacre, and so by extension I assumed that they glossed over a lot of atrocities they committed during WWII.

      As a first-hand witness, can you verify whether Nanjing was included in this photo display?

    • Guest

      I find your anecdotal evidence interesting and am relieve to here that there are such activities taking place in the schools. I am not an English teacher, not anymore, but all the same I live in Japan. Although I am inclined to agree with you, you have to consider recent events that undermine the usefulness of your past, anecdotal evidence.
      For starters, in the past three years, the number of issuances of Anti-Chinese and Anti-Japanese animes has been increasing. The above movie is testament to that. Whatever you may say, the message of the above movie is clear and I dont fault the Chinese for their reactions to it. Most poignantly, the scene where the teacher is lecturing them about the horrible things the Japanese did in the past, with the students sitting with shocked expressions or morbid, glazed eyes. This is representative of Japanese indignation at being held as an “agressor” or the “bad guy.” Japanese will be the first to tell you how peaceful they are and therefore their Asian neighbors should bow in deference to them, at the same time flaunting garbage like this in main cinemas. Furthermore, the time I spent teaching, the students had about 1 week where they “covered” Japanese atrocities. Nanking was not mentioned and they never really mentioned how Japanese soldiers acquired so many prositutes for their barbaric harems, if they mentioned it at all. If there is not even a proper acknowledgement of the fact, how do you suppose they can reach area of understanding.

      Continuing on that same line, the current prime minister, is doing everything he can in his power to obliterate all mention of Japanese crimes in school textbooks. He presses these points by fueling and aiding his fanatical, right wing proxy parties such as Nihon Ishin no Kai. The same time sub-committee members in the house are saying that just as Germany needed a strong man in Hitler to rescue them, Japan needs Shinzo Abe. The fact that he is largely supported and agreed with by the masses is indicative of their stance on this.

      I am not denying your experience, but the Japan of today, and the Japan I live in, is singing a very different tune on these issues. Check out the leading politicians in Abe, Aso, Toru, etc.

  • Guest23

    Really not so surprising that this cult leader just went up and followed the trend of using anime with cool nationalistic propaganda, revisionist history, and at the end disseminating the teachings of his cult, just to score points with the right-wing elements in the country, on the topic of using anime propaganda, they’ve been doing this lately, as much as it’s stupid that they kept using Nazis, China has the right to be outrage, but at the same time they’ve gotta check on their own stuff like those War of Resistance dramas that are clearly not doing a good job justifying that you shouldn’t also do the vile things that they did to you, in a short note in the lyrics of Ice Cube; You better check yo self before you wreck yo self.

  • Paulos

    This alarmist response to obscure foreign media bit is getting really old. Come on China, your culture produced the Caigentan, I know you can do better.

  • TheSOP

    ” But this film is clearly smearing our image, making us look like we are a war-mongering nation and people. May I ask how just many times we’ve engaged in large-scale expansion?”

    Is this commenter being subversive and cheeky or is he actually stupid enough to believe the words he’s typing? With the exception of the aliens this actually is not too divorced from fiction. The animator/author sounds like a wack job (I hate all historical revisionist, regardless of nationality, although China seems to be the most prolific at the moment) but the story represents a deep loathing of Chinese imperialism and hubris which is taking hold in East Asia and in America. Lets unite to keep Chinese imperialism in check but we should also not shy away from calling out hypocrites within our own ranks who revise history to meet their own nationalistic needs.

  • This is nothing new. China should and never be hurt, pissed off, or angry about this new movie. Everyone has the right to make whatever the hell they want. Don’t like it? Don’t watch it. Still don’t like it? Don’t even look at it. Still angry about it? Don’t even think about it. Seriously, it’s that simple.

    Both Japan and China have done evil things in the past and both countries have still not fully acknowledged it. China has “Glorious Mission” while Japan has “Mystical Laws.” No one should be whining about who is right or wrong here. Both China and Japan is wrong and there is no such thing as “who is more evil.” Both are.

    • TheSOP

      I think the CCP took the “who is more evil” medallion off the corpse of Tojo and has been wearing it since 1949. That much is clear.

    • Barack Obama

      of course you would say that you are japanese.

    • Mony Xie

      No, we I am not angry. Instead, I have a good laugh.

  • TheSOP

    oh oh and gunpowder, dont forget gunpowder!

    • Jahar

      the big bowl of compass, as well. And stuff to write on, i mean paper.

  • Germandude

    To your points:

    – original culture
    So you are the one. Could you please do me (and I assume most of us on here) a favor and explain Chinese culture? What is Chinese culture?

    – diversed ethnicity
    How diverse do you think China is?

    – much natural resources & man powers
    Is that really so? Like in: China has enough resources to carry itself.

    – couples connected by true love

    What is true love? How do you define true love? Is true love represented by barber shops/massage salons? Is having a xiaosan an example of true love?

    What about: http://www.chineselovelinks.com/ ?

    The peaceful world you have been fancying all along would perhaps indeed come true!

    If you can answer my questions truthfully, I am sure your sentence holds value.

    • Andrew

      Eh…verstehste keinen Witz? Ironie ist ne große Kunde :) Trotzdem geb ich zu, du hast interessante Fragen gestellt, also nun beantworte ich die eins nach dem anderen, weil Diskussion Spaß macht:

      orginelle Kultur: Wittgenstein (während seiner späteren Zeit) ist der Meinung, jedes Wort habe eine spezielle Bedeutung je nach der Lebensform, in der die Kommunikation stattfindet. Ich weiß nicht ob du jetzt aus Versehen oder mit Absicht den Schwerpunkt abgeleitet hast, aber was ich damit meinte, ist natürlich dass die Japaner früher viel von China gelernt haben. Ich tue auch nicht so, als hätten sie jetzt immer noch dieselbe Kultur wie wir Chinesen. Alles hat sich weiter entwickelt. Du hast aber Glück. Ich weiß zufälligerweise doch etwas von der alten Kultur Chinas. Man könnte sich also gern iwo anders gemütlich aufklären lassen.

      Falls du das aber absichtlich getan hast, dann habe ich auch noch DAS für dich:

      Das Wort Kultur stammt selbstverständlich aus Latein, und “CVLTVRA” kommt wiederum aus “CVLTVS”, und dieses ist eine konjugierte Form vom Verb “COLO”. QED

      diverse ethnicity: der der in der 10ten Klasse neben mir saß, ist nur 50% Han-Chinese. Mehr brauche ich nicht zu sagen.
      much natural resources & man powers: Hmm, Im Gegensatz zu Japan und übrigens zu Westeuropa ist es offensichtlich oder?

      Letztens: Wahre Liebe. Genau, Die Seite sieht originell aus (Achtung: dieser ist jetzt wieder ne Ironie!), ich hoffe, du hast es nur grad gegooglet. Aber haste vllt das (relativ) neue Video von Vice gesehen, das um die Love Industry Japans geht? Fremdgehen (ich weiß, xiaosan ist eher was anderes, aber diese ist auch nicht nur in China zu sehen. Das weißt du doch auch, oder?) passiert ja in jedem Land, aber was DA passiert ist findet man kaum wo anders.

      Mein Freundkreis in China ist nicht besonders groß–da muss man nicht unbedingt Leid tun. Freundschaftshalber möchte ich dir hier nicht viel verraten, aber solltest du dich irgendwie auch nach eine Liebe sehnst, die weder ums Geld des Partners geht, noch darum geht, dass alle anderen um dich bereits eine Partnerin haben, dann ja, ich befürchte schon, du musst viele meiner chinesischen Freunde drum beneiden.

      Du hast aber wieder mal Glück gehabt. Ich lese gern Philosophie, und wenn du leidenschaftlich dieses Thema eingehend erörtern möchtest, dann sollen wir, wie gesagt, irgendwo anders hingehen.

      Wenn du mit meiner Antwort zufrieden bist, bitte mal ein Daumenhoch drücken, sonst frag gern weiter :)

      • Germandude

        Natuerlich verstehe ich Witze. In Deinem Fall war ich mir aber nicht ganz sicher, ob wir es hier mit Ironie zu tun haben.

        Ganz ehrlich, ich weiss nicht, was ich auf Deinen Post antworten soll. Du hast mich verloren bei “originelle Kultur”. Ich fragte aber nach “ORIGINAL culture”.

        Dein Beispiel, dass Dein Kumpel aus der 10. Klasse nur 50% HAN ist, ist wohl kaum ein Beleg dafuer, dass “diverse ethnicity” in ganz China vorzufinden ist. Was ja wohl auch falsch waere zu behaupten.

        Wahre Liebe werde ich nicht googlen. Die Sendung kenne ich noch von frueher, haha. Auch brauche ich niemanden beneiden, der wahre Liebe gefunden hat. Eher beglueckwuensche ich diese Leute. Ich bin auch gluecklich verheiratet, ohne das Kohle eine Rolle spielen wuerde.

        Keine Sorge, Deine Antwort gefaellt mir. Sogar ziemlich gut. Daumen hoch gibt es natuerlich und weiter so!

        PS: Dein Deutsch ist perfekt. ROCK ON!

  • TheSOP

    I didnt understand that at all… was there a point?

    • Andrew

      I don’t wanna sound conceited, but either you don’t understand irony, or you don’t know china well enough. And there is actually more than just A point.

      • TheSOP

        No it was muddled nonsense. Thanks for trying though.

  • Joe R

    So a cartoon movie was made that portrays a country as being Nazi? Stand back. lol talk about much ado about nothing.

  • Gerhana

    hm just a curiosity, is there a movie where US of A is the villain. I dont think I have ever come across a movie where US of A is the villain. The American are usually the hero. Except in that movie ‘Fighter in the Wind’, it seems that American soldiers invaded japan only to rape. There is a montage where the soldiers are here and there just attempting to rape people, nothing else. After a few failed attempt at raping, they just packed up and left. Must be a collaboration between Japanese and Korean, united under a single enemy. lol. Funny how things are portray in the popular media.

    • Germandude

      Not surprising since Hollywood is American.

      Then again, please have a look for US movies about the Vietnam war, in which US war atrocities are shown, or in which the criticism goes towards the whole US involvement in it.
      Recommendable movies are: Casualties of war, Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now, Platoon, Hamburger Hill

      All these movies show the danger of sending young boys into wars they don’t understand. And they all are critical towards the actions by them.
      Show me a single Chinese movie in which there is even the slightest possibility of self-criticism to be interpreted.

    • Cauffiel

      Americans were the bad guys in Letters from Iwo Jima. Pretty lame movie though.

    • TheSOP

      Turkey made a movie, Wolves in the Valley or something, about Iraq. It was pretty bad even had your stereotypical hook nosed jews if I remember right (admittedly I couldnt finish it). I’m sure China has plenty of B-rate propaganda films with American/Western bad guys but I’m not anxious to seek them out.

  • Boris

    Yes, it is. But have you watched Chinese TV? Every other show is of the Japanese invasion of China and how Chinese kicked their ass, quite conveniently forgetting what Mao and his cronies/supporters did to their fellow Chinese.

    The Chinese government sanctions (or lets them get aired )these sort of tv programs while anything related to true history will either have people imprisoned or worse.

  • David

    Good to know, I will check it out.

  • David S.

    I call that the “Red Banner” syndrom.
    At first they’re just ugly but easy enough to ignore. Once you understand the meaning, they become insufferable.

  • Gordon Gogodancer

    It indeed also works..however America is not the topic under discussion.

    • Germandude

      It only works until: America IS currently granting it’s military greater free-reign in what America views as American territory.

      Or did America claim any territory that currently is not under US control, as being theirs? I fail to see that.

  • lonetrey / Dan

    A blank white flag.

    • Boris

      That made me laugh!

  • Jahar

    except for the expanding militray part. andthe freer reign part. and the hatred part.

  • Jobjed

    Reclamation.

    • mr.wiener

      Creating client states?

  • Germandude

    Couldn’t have said it better.

  • Myk

    Yeah, right. The “帝” in both “皇帝” and “帝国主义” is pure coincidence, because China never had anything to do with the latter. So is the similarity between “Emperor“ and “imperialism”…

  • simon

    japanese absurdity at its finest

  • TheSOP

    Sigh, this site seems to attract cowards who dont want to post under their Disqus handles. Sigh…….. and morons who dont even know that Japan is in Northeast Asia and not Southeast Asia are hardly qualified to comment on issues pertaining to East Asian geopolitics… Sigh, I guess when you are just a little whiney bitch who has to drag Nelson Mandela into his comment to try and feign some bit of moral gravity he doesnt possess people dont take you seriously, am I right? Sigh……… go on back to Bloomberg or wherever you followed me from you pantywaste, sighhhhh

    • Ba

      But…your comment did nothing to in anyway rationally dispute whether or not my assertions were correct. In fact you relied almost purely on ad hominem attacks. You do realize that this is a classical example of a logical fallacy correct? As advice, for future debates you might engage in, attempt to dispute points and facts with evidence rather than resorting to name calling.
      Your one factual point, the geography, I have no problem conceding since it was simply a mistake on my behalf because I was typing quickly. But the rest…you said nothing. You literally didn’t say anything other than ‘You’re stupid and cowardly because…because…hence go back to a location’. If that is how you construct your rational debates and arguments then…well then you don’t do it very well I’m afraid

  • TheSOP

    Sigh…. post with your real disqus handle or just STFU, sighhhhh

    • Ba

      What is a disqus handle? Why is it in anyway necessary for this discussion?

      • TheSOP

        Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

        • Kai

          He’s commenting as a guest, without a registered Disqus account, which is his perogative, as long as he’s fine with waiting for his comments to be manually approved by a moderator before they become publicly visible.

          While I’m at it, when a commenter’s name becomes “Guest”, it merely means he has unilaterally anonymized their comment, a feature of Disqus and something you have done before as well. It doesn’t mean they were banned by us moderators.

          Please also reign in the arbitrary accusations and assumptions that people are trolling you, or that there are people trolling you under different identities. If you have sufficient reason and evidence that someone is using different identities to “troll” you, please contact us and we’ll look into it from our side, where we have access to more information and the tools to determine sockpuppetry.

          Before you do that, please do also make sure you understand the definition of “trolling”. Mere disagreement with your opinions is likewise not sufficient circumstantial evidence of someone being the same person as another person who disagrees with you.

          • TheSOP

            Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

      • Jobjed

        He is a bit of a hard person to talk to, isn’t he? There’s no rational or coherent thought process behind his comments, just fallacious bullshit backed up with personal insults.

  • TheSOP

    How are you a dumbfuck? Let me count the ways—– sigh…..

  • wes707

    “China’s fundamental education includes radical views of history and current events that instills deep seated hatred in it’s children while entirely omitting China’s own historical atrocities”

    Not sure that would work for “America.” In high school, we read Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States, which is highly critical of the country. We read some Noam Chomsky as well.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People's_History_of_the_United_States

  • linette lee
  • linette lee

    http://images.wikia.com/laofuzi/zh/images/1/15/2.jpg

    These guys are my favorite. hahahaha…lol. Anyone here know these guys?

  • wes707

    Yes, it’s true that Western people have killed many people; the difference is that we don’t impose historical amnesia on the populous in order to save face, like most Asian countries. I’m not sure though if it’s more than any other race.

    For example, take Asian on Asian killing during the 20th century :
    Mao ≈ 45 million
    Japan WW2 ≈ 25 million
    Pol pot ≈ 3 million
    East Timor ≈ 200,000
    Et cetera

  • TheSOP

    GO CHINA!! Yippy, look at me I’m a dumbfuck fenqing who stole the name of the American president, whoopdee-fucking-doooo, I hope white people care about what I say and give me attention, I;m a little attention whore for whiteys!

    • Ba

      I am going to be serious here. Is the only way you know how to debate and argue personal attacks? You do realize that does not in anyway strengthen your position. You produce no facts to countermand another’s assertion you merely rely on vicious personal attacks. Disturbingly enough these attacks often have a disgustingly racial and stereotypical character to them as well, What does that prove? Also to the people who like these responses; why? Nothing of fact was pronounced here or even alluded at. All that TheSOP did was shout insults at someone for disagreeing with them? Is that really what you think discussions should be? Name calling contests? Please explain to me why you do so if possible.
      Also can someone explain to me what an American President has to do with this? I mean…Isn’t Guest’s title Guest? I’m very confused.

      • TheSOP

        I am going to be serious here for a second; do you not know how to post under your regular disqus handle or are you just too cowardly too? Also you do realize that you loving on bigots that use the American Presidents name to spread racism and cry foul when other people call them out makes you a bigot as well right? You do understand it leaves you with zero credibility right? Glad we had this conversation tat tat now.

      • TheSOP

        “Guest” name was Barack Obama, looks like he trolled his way off a cliff

  • Andrew

    Should I? Should ‘offended’ be merely a passive participle and not an adjective, then I guess I can feel someone is offending a group of people, ie including me. Yet I’d rather be preoccupied with more important stuffs, like “how to make our life more meaningful?”

  • Jahar

    I can accept the first half of this, but not the second. I’ve never, not in the slightest, heard of or myself considered any problem with Asian leads. not that there has been many, but you can’t blame that on everybody. No one watches Harold and Kumar and says ” that would be so much better of those were white guys.”

  • Jahar

    u sure?considering most of the world’s population has always been in asia.

  • mwanafa

    Amen to that brother, after they established the safety zone and US B-52s went to mock them, I had some discussions with these people about the situation.
    That is when I realized how deep that hatred has been put, adding that there is a very big problem of denial over their own problems. Now whenever they ask me about this subject I refuse to comment. Because no matter what you say, so long as it’s against their will to admit they will turn into “why do you say China is bad”, “why did you come here if you think China is… ” , “Then go back to your home” and much more. Those my friend, are the the things they will tell you, because deep inside they admit you said the truth, but they can’t say it to your face.

  • Nick in Beijing

    I had forgotten about those comments made before about having the right to rape Japanese women due to history. Disgusting.

  • Nick in Beijing

    Is that a mainstream movie intended for mass consumption by Chinese citizens?

    • S

      Yep.
      Also apologies for the double post.

  • mr.wiener

    @gordongogodancer:disqus. This fellow seems to be the case in point.

  • mr.wiener

    Too bad they never inverted gravy.

  • linette lee

    Exactly thank you. All people on this planet are the same like all countries west or east Japan or China or Usa. When given the power and position they are capable to commit the same crime. To say USA and Japan are innocent and China is guilty these people are just as brainwashed by western culture and their media. Give Japan the land mass and nuclear weapon powerful enough to beat up UN and USA and see what will happen. Look at USA and what they are doing in middle east. China, Japan, and USA all the same shxt. Each country just use different methods of invasion and USA and Japan know how to sugarcoat it better.

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