“Lost Childhoods” of Ethnic Yi Migrant Worker Children

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From QQ:

Lost Childhood

To this day, the Liangshan Yi autonomous prefecture is one of China’s most impoverished regions. Starting from May every year, large numbers of ethnic Yi compatriots come to the Jiaodong coast [in Shandong province] for work drying kelp in the sun. For them with poor economic prospects, dragging their family across half of China is ultimately better than staying in the mountain regions without enough to eat. The children who come with them are as old as their teens and as small as several months old, not yet weaned.

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Because of its seasonality, the work of drying kelp in the air is extremely hard. At 3am in the early morning, boats go out to cut kelp and by 5am, the fresh kelp is transported onto land. After being unloaded, the kelp needs to be cut and repeatedly turned over to dry under the sun, bundled together, and sealed before it can enter the warehouse. These workers from Liangshan often have to work from before the sun is up until the sun has set.

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As their parents are busy laboring, the children can only “grow up free” [look after themselves]. At the site where the kelp is dried in the sun, a small canopy of maize and Chinese bellflower becomes the children’s temporary “home”. Because it is dark and unventilated in the canopy, the children prefer to play on the plastic tarps used to cover the dried kelp, and use the plastic tarp to block the wind and shield themselves from the sun.

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The drying of the kelp under the sun occurs before the rainy season, so the temperatures are relatively high with little rainfall, but for the children, this golden season for kelp is somewhat difficult to bear. This 3-year-old little girl wrapped the plastic tarp around her, to lessen exposure to the sun. Only upon seeing someone pass by did the little girl open the plastic tarp.

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Some parents carry their children on themselves in slings, simultaneously laboring and taking care of their children. The children look like little mountains on their parents’ backs, similar to the burdens/pressures of life [weighing on their backs]. If they stayed in the mountains, they would essentially have no income, so while carrying their children is exhausting, they can still see the hope of their lives.

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Some children disregard the scorching sun and accompany their laboring parents, even if it is boring.

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Almost all of these laborers from the mountains have several children in their families, and in many situations, the older brothers and sisters must bear the responsibility of taking care of their younger brothers and sisters. Only when his younger brother sleeps can this 6-year-old elder brother get a bit of rest. Lying in the plastic tarps under the blazing sun, watching the back of his parents as they work, the older brother hopes his parents can finish work early, to free him [from looking after his younger brother].

A 3-year-old girl carrying her 3-month-old baby sister on her back on the kelp drying fields in Jiaodong, China.

This just 3-year-old little girl is the oldest child in her family, and thus shoulders the responsibility of caring for her little sister, who is not yet 3 months old. The children’s mother had given birth right by a small reservoir at the work site. She used a sickle for cutting kelp to cut the umbilical cord, and a bottle of distilled liquor to disinfect. After resting seven days, she took the child to the work site to continue laboring, with the duty of caring for the child given to her older daughter who had just turned three.

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With mom busy working and without time to look after her newborn daughter, the job of feeding milk is done by her 3-year-old older sister. This 3-year-old girl has learned how to take care of others when other children her age still require all-around care themselves.

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All three meals a day are rationed by the work site [employer]. They can get wheat flour steamed buns and vegetable soup. Meals are the happiest moments for these adults and children, when everyone is able to eat until they’re full. The children each get two wheat flour steamed buns, which is much tastier than eating potatoes for every meal when in the mountains. To make it easier for the children who don’t yet have all their teeth, adults soak the steamed buns in the vegetable soup until they’re soft before feeding the children.

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Although life has forced them to “mature early”, the children’s innate natures still require their parents to keep an eye on them. This little boy fell asleep on the ground where the kelp is dried under the son, and woke up crying trying to find his parents.

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Upon seeing his child crying, the boy’s father rushed over, slung him to his back, and asked the little boy’s older brother to fetch a steamed bun. Parents occasionally have no choice but to personally interrupt their work to come look after their children.

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Most of the time, the children are very well-behaved and thoughtful, helping their parents with the work. The work site for drying the kelp is contracted by several people where the kelp is turned over to dry under the sun and bundled according to requirements, their wages calculated on their final production output. On average, every person can earn about 3000 yuan in a month. The sooner they finish their work, the sooner they can rest, so the children will help their parents to finish their work earlier.

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These children don’t have the circumstances to got o school where they are from. After their parents come to Jiaodong to work, and because of the unfixed working time and location as well as language barriers, they have even less prospects for going to school. They can only live out their childhood on the work sites where their parents work. In an environment of material poverty, what brings them happiness can be as simple as finding a wooden plank on the ground.

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While resting, the 3-year-old little girl holds her beloved toy as she lies on the leg of her sound asleep father. This is what rest time is like for a family. The so-called toy is nothing more than whatever can be found/scavenged, all discarded and abandoned objects.

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Children are the flowers of the country’s future, and they should be cared for by society rather than forced to learn how to be strong. If only their silhouettes could disappear from these working sites tomorrow, with every child able to wear neat clothes, sitting in classrooms, with the sounds of learning.

Comments from QQ:

晓宇

Where are those dog-lovers now? Are these children less important than cats and dogs?

xdh

My tears poured forth upon seeing the 3-year-old older sister feeding her baby sister. All flowers of the country but the difference [in life between different children] are so large.

濮阳丶陈朝飞

Where’s Chen Guangbiao?

老大

Why is that people in distress in Africa get aid from China [Chinese government] but the people in distress in China aren’t able to? Even if the country has money to distribute down, what reaches the hands of the poor is still the leftovers of government officials [after they’ve embezzled or skimmed off], is this not true? Those who agree with me, ding!

霓裳

Poor children, poor financial situation and still having two or three children, no quality in the life of the children!

幽幽”紫兰.

These are very moving. I hope they can be helped. I remember also getting to know a group of Liangshan younger brothers and sisters [youth] at a factory several years ago. Although I myself was only 17 years old at the time, they too were all very small in stature, about the size of 7-8 year olds, but perhaps because of needing to make a living or something, someone had taught them to say they were already 16 years old, but it wasn’t very convincing! In the factory, a lot of people avoided them, feeling they emitted a strange odor, but they were very sincere. Even though they haven’t had any schooling, they were very polite. They too regarded us with curiosity and wanted to get to know us. I looked at them without colored lenses, and I found a notebook to teach them how to write, with the first word being “train station”, because in my mind came appeared the thought of them having to travel everywhere in the future for work, and was afraid them and their companions getting lost. I wonder how they are doing right now. I really hope kind-hearted people in China can help them!

那些花儿

So sad! Our country uses so much money to go help so-called “brother nations”, to go buy United States debt/bonds, and to donate to others, so why can’t it first improve the living conditions of its own people? China still has so many impoverished places like this, where the poorer they are, the more children they have, and the more children they have, the more backwards [impoverished] they are.

Editor/author, publish more of this kind of news, and ignore the Editor in Chief who always wants to publish stuff like car models, school flowers [the pretty girls in schools], and other vulgar news. Those who agree, ding this up…

❤彩虹天堂❤

These children truly have it too hard. Seeing this, I can’t stop my tears. Our children are so fortunate that they are like flowers, but they, still so small but already have to take care of the even smaller children. Children like these, truly are heartbreaking. What will their futures be like/will they be able to make it? Just being able to take care of oneself is already very difficult. Darlings, you must be safe and sound, must grow up healthy, live every day well. Babies, you have it hard.

举报耍帥裝腷謸嬌爺ル笵

Sigh…the country [government] does everything it can to impress outsiders, yet doesn’t consider its own people at all.

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  • Rick in China

    It’s a great photo journal.. the most heartbreaking photo I find is the one with the little girl with her baby sister in a sack on her back, what a terrible life these kids have, so much burden at such a young age, I can’t even begin to imagine that shit. Surely there are some charities in the area who are putting effort into giving these kids something to look forward to in life?

    • Murasaki

      Charities? In other news, China has just coughed up $10 billion in initial capital and pledged $41 billion in contingent reserve arrangement for the BRICS bank, a mini-IMF based out of Shanghai, which is designed to screw the US dollar. China sits on the largest foreign currency reserves, valued at $4 trillion, and that’s JUST on foreign reserves assets. The country has more than enough means to change the lives of these kids and many others, so why rely on charities? Address the issues at its root please. The government needs to do its f’king job.

      But when you sit down and think about it, why would the government do it? No one is pressuring the officials; they’re not in risk of losing their jobs. The flip side would be why should the regular people care? They have very little power to change system.

      And now here we are, watching people’s lives as they become marginalized by society. Venting through the internet.

      • Rick in China

        We know the government isn’t doing or going to do anything to help these type of people in many cases, as they have nothing to gain from doing so. You’ve mentioned a lot of great points on that. I suppose I was more questioning whether there are any charities active in this specific area, because my company does have a lot of interest and activity in social justice related work – and if there were active charities involved in the area affecting these specific people, it may be worthwhile for me to see if we could somehow get involved. 3 year olds carrying infants around essentially post-apocalyptic conditions in sacks and feeding them while their parents flip seaweed…..damn.

        • Murasaki

          If your company can do that, then please, it would mean very much to them. Probably more than you and I could ever imagine, being born into relative privilege.

          I tend to look at their condition as being under-developed. 100 years ago, our great*n grandparents probably did the very same thing working the fields, while our great*n-1 grandparents watched. Again, no charity is going to change that. It is in the hands of the government.

          • Rick in China

            I disagree that it *requires government*. I think charities and organisations who take children’s opportunities seriously can make a larger impact than you’re giving them credit for. I do agree that the government in this situation is fucking bullshit and should absolutely be blamed for allowing citizens to be so impoverished with no clear hope around how to crawl out of this seemingly terrible existence, but I don’t think that the current Chinese government is the solution – and I refuse to think that there is no other possible solution.

          • SonofSpermcube

            Charities rely on the good will and empathy of the wealthy to get anything done; which is always in abundant supply.

          • Rick in China

            I assume you’re being sarcastic. If so, you may want to look up annual donations to charities. Americans alone donate several hundred billion to charities per annum. Yes, there is lots of money out there for charities – and sometimes working with charities can actually be both indirectly profitable, and fulfilling, for private enterprise and their employees.

      • ClausRasmussen

        >> The government needs to do its f’king job

        Why is this the responsibility of the government ?

        • Nhat Nguyen

          Have you seen USA lately? Government do not care about the people. Even in USA people kill each other everyday and government do not do anything to stop it.

          Just watch this documentary.

          • ClausRasmussen

            How did the US come into the discussion?

            I’m of the opinion that people are responsible for their own lives and that you can’t blame the government for everything. The government should concern itself with providing a level playing field and keep welfare at an absolute minimum.

          • Paul Schoe

            It is nice that you say this: “the government should concern itself with providing a level playing field‘.

            Haven’t you thereby answered your own question: “Why is this the responsibility of the government ?“?

            Do you think that these children have a ‘level playing field’ compared to those who live in apartments in the city and have schools where they sometimes even get meals?

            I don’t think so. I do believe that providing a ‘level playing field’ throughout a society is one of the important tasks of a government, and as such, there is still a lot to do here for the government.

          • ClausRasmussen

            A level playing field as in “the same rules for everyone”, and not as in “socialism”.

            Why is this not the responsibility of the parents ? Or the grandparents ? Or the community ? Or charities ?

            Some made some decisions that ultimately led to this situation. I can almost guarantee you that it wasn’t the government or the taxpayers.

          • Rick in China

            Being born into poverty doesn’t offer the same opportunities as being born to a relatively educated, or even better located family. The effort to escape the vicious cycle of poverty is unobtainable for any but the best and most lucky of people born into that circumstance without external aid. You can say “the parents made decisions”.. etc, but the parents, as you can see from the photo journal, are in a perpetual state of struggle and hard work to get enough money just to barely survive and keep their kids from starving. They don’t have the opportunity to “decide” to not send their kids to school or to “decide” to skip college and go travelling, they’re simply stuck in a shit life with no obvious way out.

          • ClausRasmussen

            >> doesn’t offer the same opportunities as being born to a relatively educated, or even better located family

            That’s obvious. What is not so obvious is why this is the responsibility of the government.

          • Rick in China

            Um….

            I kind of think that in most countries in the world – governments take responsibility for both employment and education within their countries. Employment creates taxable income, which is sort of the essence of a government’s financial existence, and education is um..sort of the way a country digs it’s way out of tribal/agriculture economies.

            I suppose you’re trying to say it’s not “obvious” that government, in order to exist, for better or worse, need to improve both of these? If that’s your point, I feel for you – because I believe to most people this *would be absolutely obvious*.

          • ClausRasmussen

            General employment and general education is the responsibility of government. But in this case, the parents _are_ employed and the children _do_ have the option to go to school.

            That the parents or the grandparents didn’t prioritize school, didn’t look for better employment, and choose to have more than one kid when they can hardly support one, is not the governments fault.

            Compare to the following story at Shanghaiist: The kids mother died when he was young, he father is away to work in the Great City, he is dirt poor, but he is single child, well fed, doing his school, and certainly on a better path in his life than the kids in this story: http://shanghaiist.com/2014/07/19/photos-mountain-boy-guizhou.php

            That’s the difference between good and bad decisions !

          • Rick in China

            “But in this case, the parents _are_ employed and the children _do_ have the option to go to school.”

            Sorry, what? You read the story right? They live in one of the most impoverished mountain regions, and many of them travel for seasonal work because it’s not possible to survive where they live in off-work months. You know that there is a registration system in China which prevents people from free movement to live and work wherever they want, right?

            They work hard for a seemingly reasonable wage, during that season. It seems like they return home without any reasonable work and survive off this kelp flipping money, much like fishermen or crabbers in some other countries. Sorry, the children can go to school – really? They have a solid education system accessible in their region? Maybe, I didn’t see that mentioned – and I don’t know where you got your information..perhaps you can show me – then perhaps provide a “good decision” plan of sorts that allows them to provide for their families whilst earning the seasonable income, and having to look after their children? Or is the crux of your scenario that they should never have had children?

          • ClausRasmussen

            If you can’t provide for you children, then you should consider if it is wise decision to have not just one, but two !

          • Rick in China

            You and I understand that fully! I agree with that, HOWEVER, the people in these circumstance are often not educated whatsoever, let alone to an age or in a system that talks, at all, about home ec. type subjects.

            Should these people stop producing? Probably. They are obviously in a shitty situation and having children is going to put these innocents in a shitty situation also. However, several factors make this run deeper – first, it’s not your decision or mine to make, and second, they probably don’t have the faculties to be able to make this type of decision, or, rather, even ask this type of question.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Enrollment Rate – Elementary School

            China: 99.5%
            Liangshan Yi autonomous: 98%
            Liangshan Yi autonomous – ethnic minorities: 95.87%

          • Rick in China

            99.8% of all statistics on the internet are truth, especially statistics controlled by the CPC.

          • takasar1

            unless you have clear proof of the cpc smudging education statistics, this is simply an empty claim

          • Paul Schoe

            Actually in this case, I would not be surprised if it was the government that has ultimately led to this situation.

            I am surprised that you feel that “the same rules for everyone” is the same as a “level playing field”, as that totally ignores the environment in which people are born and live.

            But in this specific situation, in this specific country, I would not be surprised if you can point to very specific actions from government or from government employed officials, that have led to this situation. This can vary from the Hukou system due to which people can’t settle where they feel it is most beneficial for their family, to land confiscation by the government, to financial support that does not arrive at the people for who it was intended.

            When you are well off, it is easy to say: “if the rules are the same, then there is a level playing field”, but that is closing your eyes for the harsh realities in which these families live. Realities that hardly give them a level playing field with kids who are born in the cities or to well-off parents.

          • ClausRasmussen

            The reality is that you don’t know why they ended up in that situation. You’re just guessing, and your only guess (an explanation) is that it is the fault of the government.

            These people are not in a situation fundamentally different from what millions of people in China found themselves in a few decades ago, and yet the far majority of them managed to dig themselves out of the that hole.

            Instead of blaming the government, the focus should be on how these people can improve their situation by themselves. For example by having only one kid so they could afford sending it to school and thereby stop the cycle of mistakes.

        • David

          Because the government is formed to prevent this sort of thing from happening. It is the collective will of the people that creates and keeps the government going. The point of a national government is the welfare of its people.

          • Zsari Maxim

            If you believe in socialism, then it is the responsibility of the government, but if you believe in capitalism, then that is not the responsibility of the government.

          • David

            Socialism is a form of government, Capitalism is an economic model. they are not the same things. In the U.S. we have a Capitalistic economy (with some controls) and a Democratic government. It is the job of EVERY type of government to set the rules and protect its people to varying degrees. That is why people form government.

    • NeverMind

      Perhaps westerners might not understand it, thinking it is a basic human right, but this is why forced family planning is needed in poor countries, including China. Even where I come from poor people go ahead and have 3-4 kids. They hardly seem to care either due to illiteracy or ignorance or for religious reasons. It is heartbreaking to see these malnourished kids suffer on the streets.

      • SonofSpermcube

        I am not sure you understand it.

        When your offspring have a lower chance of success/survival, it makes sense to have as many offspring as possible to increase the chance of one of them getting lucky.

        The idea that you’re dividing resources that would give one kid a good chance at success by having 3 or 4 doesn’t apply if you don’t have sufficient resources to give one kid a good chance at success. If they’re all fucked anyway, what difference does it make if you have one or if you have a dozen?

      • Rick in China

        Wait. Did you say parents “go ahead and have 3-4 kids”, “hardly seem to care”, and it’s because of “religious reasons”? You mean that they don’t care that their children are struggling to clench onto life? I find that hard to believe, I am betting many of these parents have the most tumultuous emotional distraught you can imagine, and do all they can to harden themselves to it just to keep strong for their families and keep food in their bellies. If they don’t care, I’m sure they’d be better off financially by selling their children like so many seem to do – and having less mouths to feed. The solution here isn’t forcing people (or trying to, it would fail) to _stop having children_, but rather provide environments where they can get stable employment and education. They obviously can and do work extremely hard, they want to work, right? So wouldn’t it make sense to give them jobs? Money is to be made here (maybe not as much as screwing people out of red maos in the city) – progress for these communities, when jobs exist – bosses get paid – workers don’t have to trek from mountains to seaside to flip fuckin seaweed in horrible conditions all day, and families can eat and have the stability to attend school… eventually digging their way out of what appears to be the depths of poverty.

        These people don’t even want healthcare. They’re at the baseline. I am betting, if asked about their top priorities, they’d respond 1) employment, 2) education for their children. Maybe wrong, maybe I’m superimposing what I think I would answer onto their situation, but that’s what their answers _should_ be, because that’s the solution.

  • WFH

    dam….this is a sad and depressing world.

  • One for all

    China isn’t sending aid to African countries. It is sending bribe money for Africa’s resources disguised as aid.

    • Boris

      Isn’t that what ‘aid’ money basically is? Bribes or payments for favours?

  • Murasaki

    I’d also like to know why. What did America ever do to China?!

  • Edward Kay

    The world is round. It consists of smart and dumb, lucky and unfortunate people. RIP MH17

  • Nhat Nguyen

    Western World stealing oil from Africa while Africa gets nothing in return.

    Oil Story starts at 14:32

    • Chris

      How is this related to the article? We are talking about poverty in China, not in Africa. Stop blaming the West for everything to keep people’s attention away from the problems of China for which only China is responsible.

    • Nhat Nguyen spamming chinsSMACK with irrelevant comments.

      Spamming starts after this line:

    • Chaddington

      Actually America produces most of its oil and gas, and gets the rest from Canada, Mexico, Saudi Arabia (in that order). What are you talking about you ignorant Vietcong?

      • Probotector

        Isn’t Obama delaying completion of the Keystone-XL Pipeline, despite pressure from the Senate and many in the Democrat Party?

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/10/senate-democrats-obama-keystone_n_5128187.html

        • Chaddington

          We’re still getting most of our oil from Canada. Keystone is simply to get Canadian oil down to refineries in Texas to be processed and shipped internationally. Won’t really affect our supply.

    • Sydney Ma

      Off topic, and seriously Vice.com as a source? This piece of sensationalism trash who dare to call themselves “journalists”.

  • How about a bid to host another Olympics or World Cup? That’ll fix everything.

  • Freddi BuBu

    Literally babies taking care of babies – heartbreaking……!

  • donscarletti

    The Flying Tigers were a mercenary force paid by the Republic of China and were paid double or triple what normal USAAC officers and airmen were paid. They did get some degree of support from the US Army Air Corps as far as allowing officers to resign in order to join, but the United States government mostly maintained its neutrality throughout the period that the tigers were active.

    However, the US should be credited for generally “saving China’s ass” in WWII, since before Japan was bombed by America and its allies, the Chinese had no chance of mounting a successful resistance. Most weapons used by the Chinese (both Nationalist and Communist) was also supplied essentially free by America under Lend-Lease and smuggled in from British India. The liberation of Manchuria by the Soviets and ultimate annihilation of the formerly invincible Kwantang army was also by American instigation.

    However, the question was not about that. The question was about China’s gripes with America. China likes to think of liberating itself during WWII and it also likes to remember a slightly distorted version of the Boxer Rebellion where western forces just invaded China on a whim.

    • 白色纯棉小裤裤

      Most weapons used by the Chinese (both Nationalist and Communist) was also supplied essentially free by America under Lend-Lease and smuggled in from British India.

      Most weapons used by the CCP were seized from its enemies. And I from what I know, America had never supplied any weapons to the CCP. I would appreciate it if you give me the source that says America had ever supplied weapons to the CCP.

      • donscarletti

        There is no contradiction here. America supplied weapons to the KMT and they were captured by the CCP. So, ergo, Chinese communists used Lend-Lease supplied equipment.

        • ClausRasmussen

          >> So, ergo, Chinese communists used Lend-Lease supplied equipment

          lol

  • NeverMind

    I doubt most Chinese people would support those comments, it’s likely reflects a certain group of people. (Just like if you go to American news sites whenever there is any news about China, many readers blindly curse at the Chinese for their sorry state of affairs).

    Other than that, it has to do with Americas continued support of Japan, Vietnam, South Korea, Philippines etc and it’s continued mingling in the affairs of other countries around the world. Also, it is widely believed around the world that the actions committed by the Israeli government in Palestine are all due to the American government blindly supporting it. Americans are good people, their government not so much.

  • whuddyasack

    Those commenting on altruism in China are very often the same losers who gloat over China’s abject poverty and low GDP per capita. Apparently whether China is rich or poor depends on what suits them at the time.Here’s what I mean, just scroll through the comments.:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/15/aiding-and-abetting_n_3598712.html
    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-06/18/content_17597990.htm

    Don’t even talk about Tibet, pollution or human rights when as a nation, you’re not even willing to chalk up a “measly” 25 million. Chinese government organizations funded 1.8 billion, while NGOs donated 7.4 billion. Yes, billions, not millions. While the CCP certainly deserves criticism, those in glass houses should not throw stones. It’s ridiculous that some Chinese even think of donating to “America’s poor” and homeless, the same way billions are channeled into hobos and criminals every year.

    http://www.break.com/article/new-york-homeless-angry-at-chinese-millionaire-2635246#break-top-comments

    I mean just look at the ingrates? Unlike the inspiring children and families in this article, these people ought to just starve. A $60 meal for each of the children here would go a long way, and be received with much more gratitude. So sickened that taxes are used to support undeserving trash.

    IMO, the most generous people are the poor. Not the utterly filthy white and black thugs/hobos littered across America but those living in Africa and parts of Asia, who give their entire wages and lives for the good of others.

  • whuddyasack

    Kudos to Fauna and the original thread starter for this eye opening article. There’s nothing more tragic than lost childhood. It’s articles like these that I find myself having the most common ground with the Chinese netizens and feeling a strange disconnect with most of my “fellow westerners”, with few exceptions.

    The photos aren’t pleasant but they reflect a cruel reality. The children here are better off working as opposed to a slow, painful death in the mountains. I’ve personally seen how bad life can get in remote, rural China when my father took me along with him and co-volunteers on a medical “mission trip”. For the first time, I saw poverty in the flesh. The children were the most adorable people I’ve seen since and they put civilized, educated adults to shame with their intelligent maturity. What amazed me most was how thankful they were in everything, none of that smuttiness you see in white and black hobos who mug others so they can buy some alcohol. Playing soccer with scrunched up waste paper is best soccer and I’d rather play with these children than the best teams in the world.

    Saying that, it’s good to see that many people do show concern and want to help. Thank you for being decent human beings. My advice is go for it, believe. Every contribution means something. A fellow poster spoke to me with intentions of helping out children like these which I found very touching and some even went out there and did something. Lastly:

    If only their silhouettes could disappear from these working sites tomorrow, with every child able to wear neat clothes, sitting in classrooms, with the sounds of learning.

    couldn’t agree more. The Chinese government has failed its people miserably, but that doesn’t mean we can’t play our part.

  • Irvin

    And still, people insist on spawning.

  • carl

    Because there are some poor people in shandong that he hasn’t personally helped it proves he is a media whore? Now I don’t disagree, but c’mon, nobody can help everybody.

  • Chaddington

    These idiots actually believe the aid China gives African countries is “free”? Lol

    • Sydney Ma

      For Chinese everything that’s not directly bought with money is free. “Hey look at this postcard giveaway, we have to register by giving our ID card copy, mail address and phone number to get them but hey it’s free!” it is if you ignore the fact that your phone and your home mailbox will get spammed for the next few years. The average person in China hardly understand the concept of long term trade agreements such as food aid in order to get access to natural resources.

  • Chaddington

    Except the roads don’t last very long. Poor quality you see.

    • takasar1

      better a faulty road than a bullet to the head. common sense you see

      • Chaddington

        Buildings that collapse due to poor quality, also kill people, genius! And more painfully might I add.

    • SzMach5

      “roads don’t last very long”
      Any sources or links to back that up?

  • Chaddington

    “Gunboats, subjugation and the massacre of entire villages”. Lol the 19th century called, they want their contemporary problems back. We’re in the 21st century. Try to use examples that don’t belong two centuries in the past. “Gunboats”, seriously?

    Europeans and Americans have brought so many great benefits to Africa and Asia.

    • takasar1

      great, I called, they didnt pick up so I had to leave a message
      really?? last I checked , hitler was democratically elected, wore a suit, drove around in a car and could cross the atlantic in plane all the while calling someone on the other side of the world, he turned out to be a right saint… We’re not exactly more civilised than they were, we like to think we are though.

      I never said that they didnt, but they also caused more harm to them than anybody else (except africans themselves). just find it funny how people can accuse the chinese of exploitation when they pay and provide certain infrastructure too. its not like they’re just taking it.

      • Chaddington

        Hitler actually caused more pain to other Europeans, so i don’t understand why you think that’s a useful example. Secondly, if you’re going to use WW2 as an example, the Japanese caused more pain and suffering to their poor colonies in China, Korea, Burma, etc than anything the Americans or Europeans ever did.

        Plus, I question how much you actually know about African history. I’m sure you’ve probably never been, but since you’ve seen one hunger commercial you think you now. In actuality Africa was colonized for the shortest amount of time. India, the Americas, Hong Kong, Macau were colonized for centuries. Most African countries were colonized in the late 19th century and were mostly free by the mid 20th centuries.

        PS. Hitler couldn’t cross the Atlantic on a plane. The jet engine wasn’t invented until after the war. Just an FYI.

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