Chinese Man Dies From Watching Brazil World Cup All Night?

Chile's midfielder Marcelo Diaz (L) vies with Australia's forward Tommy Oar during a Group B football match between Chile and Australia at the Pantanal Arena in Cuiaba during the 2014 FIFA World Cup on June 13, 2014.      AFP PHOTO / MARTIN BERNETTIMARTIN BERNETTI/AFP/Getty Images

The following is currently the #2 most viewed article of the day on major Chinese web portal NetEase…

From NetEase:

Suzhou Sports Fan’s Sudden Death Possibly Due to Staying Up All Night to Watch World Cup, Expert: Don’t Overextend Your Body

Yesterday early morning, a young man in Suzhou city Xiangcheng district Huangqiao who suffered a sudden death was found in his room, his computer turned on, and the cause of death suspected to be related to staying up overnight to watch football.

This young man was 25 years old. According to neighbors, when family members saw him lying motionless in his room around 7am yesterday morning and went to check on him, they discovered that he was no longer breathing, and immediately called for medical help. Unfortunately, the young man’s could not be revived. As it is told, when the young man was discovered, the computer in his room was turned on. “At the time, it happened to be the group stage when Chile faced off against Australia.” Neighbors say that the young man still had his computer on in the morning means the probability of him having been watching the World Cup is relatively high.

According to emergency room Dr. Chen, when watching sports games, sports fans often will often be infected by the mood of the stadium and become exceptionally excited/stimulated. When the body remains in an excited/stimulated state for a long period of time and for people whose physical health wasn’t good to begin with, this can very easily cause medical problems such as an angina or myocardial infarction [heart attack]. Moreover, many sports fans watching games can’t avoid drinking alcohol, causing the heart to beat even faster, therefore further increasing blood pressure and blood circulation. For people who have weak hearts, this will bring about many unexpected hidden dangers. [People] must regularly allow their bodies and eyes to relax, stand up and walk about, with the most important thing being aware of one’s limits when watching sports games, to avoid “overtaxing” one’s body, and to be sure to get enough sleep.

This headline is also currently the most popular #hashtag# on Chinese microblogging platform Sina Weibo.

Comments from NetEase:

包子飞y [葡萄牙球迷]:

Friendly reminder: NetEase friends, if you’re going to stay up to watch the game, then watch the game. Don’t suddenly see a big breasts goddess and start masturbating! A little masturbating is pleasant but too much masturbation will hurt the body!

r13972089717 [网易湖北省襄阳市网友]:

“Suzhou Sports Fan’s Sudden Death Possibly Due to Staying Up All Night to Watch World Cup” – From NetEase.
“Suzhou Netizen’s Sudden Death Possibly Due to Staying Up All Night Playing World of Warcraft” – From Tencent QQ.

岸上的青苔 [网易福建省网友]:

Does this World Cup have any-fucking-thing to do with you? I don’t even want to watch a single game.

吐槽与被吐槽 [荷兰球迷]:

This sports fan must be a fatty. Staying up all night to watch the World Cup, thinking he can lose weight by jacking off, ejaculating each time a goal is made, in the end producing lots of semen but dying in the process, having lived to the ripe age of 25!

网易北京市网友 ip:111.204.*.*: (responding to 岸上的青苔)

It’s all people who have nothing better to do who are going to watch that lousy thing! There are even people who will pay me money to watch and I don’t even watch! I honestly have no interest.

lanhen05 [网易河北省廊坊市网友]:

I’m reminded of a guy in a department of our company. During the ’98 World Cup, he watched the live broadcast drinking beer and enjoying an electric fan. When it ended, he then watched the recorded broadcast. Now he’s half paralyzed, having to drag one of his legs when walking.

网易湖北省网友 ip:113.57.*.*:

Caoliu [a Chinese adult website] headline today: A moderator suddenly died after staying up all night yesterday.

你妈的小黄瓜 [阿根廷球迷]:

This was probably because he was gambling on the game and lost, his anger causing a heart attack.

wuqingyun1212 [网易贵州省贵阳市网友]:

I might be the biggest failure of a sports fan. Every day, I only watch the first game [live] and only watch the rebroadcast of the rest of the games the next day. Just watching the first game has me falling asleep on the couch. It’s only when the TV presenters shout “Goal!” or “he shoots/kicks” every time that I wake up to watch the replay. I really don’t know how you guys manage to stay up all night.

包子飞y [葡萄牙球迷]:

Everyone take warning. You can stay up to watch the game, but don’t risk your life to watch the game. Be reasonable.

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  • Lei Feng’s Hat

    Everywhere else: Don’t “overtax” yourself doing sports.

    China: Don’t “overtax” yourself watching sports.

    Sound advice. Have another plate of Toufu.

    • lacompacida

      Toufu is for poor people Chinese are wealthy, and therefore it is another plate of sharkfin, goose liver, BBQ duck, and stewed pork.

  • chandlerpatrick

    Well, it’s not the first time something like this has happened. Actually, it happens all the time. It’s just usually at a live game, where the spectator is emotionally vested in a team from his/her city, country. In this case, it happend to be at home, alone, on a laptop, watching teams he probably has no connection to emotionally… Not something I’d get too excited about… Either way, a young life was lost, and that is unfortunate.

    • mr.wiener

      What seems more unfortunate to me is it didn’t seem like much of a life to lose.
      Sorry to be callous, but I have this mental picture of this reedy stay at home type dying friendless and alone…
      Brrr!…now I feel really sad.

    • ClausRasmussen

      People die all the time. During the World Cup is just so happens that people also watch football all the time, so this is bound to happen again and again.

      • Kai

        LoL.

      • Cameron

        Pretty much

  • mr.wiener

    I can’t help but wonder about the state of thos fellas health in general if a night of watching the football at home was enough to make him shuffle off this mortal coil.
    People in general need to exercise more as it not only prolongs your life, but makes life so much better.

    • Insomnicide

      Time for me to get off my arse.

    • Zappa Frank

      25 years old, I think this is not about sport or masturbation, he may have had a heart disease and didn’t know, unluckily it happens

    • lacompacida

      These are PRC citizens, and therefore must be the healthiest on earth.

  • Insomnicide

    What’s the point? China never gets in anyway. Even a runners up would be nice but it seems no matter how much money and support people throw at the Chinese team, they never fail to disappoint.

    • Zappa Frank

      Even if Chinese tem may be the worst football team on this planet still people can love football. Even Chinese basketball them did not get anything, but still Chinese love basket.

      • Insomnicide

        Love the sport, sure. Love the competitions?…I’m not so keen on idea. It is especially humiliating consider how the Chinese people practically invented football. Yet none of the Chinese teams have ever gotten far, not even top 10 in the competition. The worse part? Chinese players get paid millions every year, and they do what exactly? They lose. They can’t even fake injuries like European players. And yet, football is still the most popular sport to watch in China. And yet, there’s still millions of fans who support the Chinese team and it’s roster. They can’t even put on a good show. This is truly embarrassing. For China, for professional sports, for sports fans, and for people like the guy in the article who stay up all night just to watch the game.

        • ClausRasmussen

          China will never succeed in football as long as Chinese mothers have a brain: Your kids time is far better spent studying to become an engineer, than playing football for the remote chance that you’ll make it.

          The pay Chinese football players gets is just a matter of basic market economics: Supply (of mediocre players) and demand (of anything Chinese that can hit a ball).

          • Insomnicide

            Unfortunately, too true. The only people who are playing professional football are the ones that aren’t held back by their parents or wives. All the people with the potential to succeed…most of them end up doing work that is meaningless to them.

          • Boris

            It also doesn’t help the fact that there was a corruption scandal a few years ago involving Chinese football.

            Out of curiousity, did China follow the Japanese model? Korea has and are benefitting from it. I do catch a few games now and then on TV of Chinese teams playing each other but the level is quite low and some of the owners are quite ecentric (I think there was one owner who put himself on as a striker).

            And China isn’t the worse team in the world. There are worse and you don’t have to look far. India for example are pretty bad (though you could argue their national sport is Cricket). They are trying to do something about it though with their new football league. China may need a rethink on how to nature sporting success.

          • Paulistano

            China is good with many sports already. Look at Olympics table medals, I know that many golds medals are held by semi-slaves since child but, nevertheless, this is a reason for pride for a chinese.

            Now, you said: ”Out of curiousity, did China follow the Japanese model? Korea has and are benefitting from it.” I am curious too, I searched about this topic, I always knew that koreans and some japanese hate each other, but I guess football was included too naturally. But how it benefited from Japan?

          • Boris

            The Olympic model won’t work for football. It is a team game and also needs people to understand the sport. And other than Olympics, Badminton and Ping Pong, China hasn’t made a dent in the biggest sport in the world. And while the gold medals should be a source of pride for the Chinese, the method leaves a lot to be desired.

            Korea’s K-League and Japan’s J-League are very similar. They do not follow the European model nor the American model (for sports). It is something inbetween the two from my understanding.

            The key thing is they get the community involved. Japanese football had a crisis with finances and the way they tackled it was by getting the locals involved and invested in the side. I know it sounds simple, but it didn’t hit the people at the top until steps were taken to save it. Football is a grassroots kinda sport. It needs the local support to flourish, just like other team games. Individual sports are a little different.

            I rarely see the community involved in local teams around here. I am not talking about the big teams but the smaller ones. There isn’t a hardcore set of fans and it will take time for that to happen really. Corruption at the top of Chinese football didn’t/doesn’t help either.

          • Paulistano

            Well, I think China doesn’t need to be good in football, USA is bad with football since ever and americans give a damn about this as far I as know. Yes, chinese methods are shameful, but hell, Olympics was never for spiritual peace and love through sport like motto says, actually, It’s purely for political reasons. So I think if you see in the coin of nationalism, it is a pride for a country indeed.

            About sport leagues, this is interesting, but I don’t think the method you described is different in other countries like Brazil. I will search more about this topic because I don’t know what model european and american nor asian leagues but I’m sure that J_league wasn’t the first to use this strategy you described.

          • Boris

            They probably weren’t the first. What I do know is that this worked for them. In other countries a different approach may be needed.

            On USA, they were bad, but if you take a look, the sport is growing there. It won’t displace the traditional American sports but given time, immigration and the financial muscle America has, it will be only a matter of time before USA is seen as one of the top teams in the world.

          • noodles76

            The U.S., while not having a history of excellence in soccer or the national and popular support that other countries see..is a competitor on the world stage.

          • Boris

            USA is a decent side. They are not one of the top sides in the world right now. The World Cup back in 94 helped put into motion what we are seeing now. A World Cup in China might help, but there are other issues they need to sort out before they can get to the level of the US, Korea or Japan.

          • Zappa Frank

            i’m not sure it may ever happen. people passion is the difference between a real top team and a good team.. Passion and organization are interchangeable but to be a top you need both. Lack of organization is what do not let Africans teams to be top teams. In our country every single child have to try to play football and football is played with anything anywhere, even among old people.. that’s the difference with americans..

          • noodles76

            China is good with many sports already. Look at Olympics table medals, I know that many golds medals are held by semi-slaves since child but,nevertheless, this is a reason for pride for a chinese.

            What…the…fuck?

            To use your own words, some(many?) athletes are held as slaves(to one degree or another) and their success should be the pride of a country. What a sad country that must be.

          • Trey

            >Out of curiousity, did China follow the Japanese model? Korea has and are benefitting from it.

            Can you emphasize more on this? How did Korea follow the Japanese model? Isn’t the K-League 10 years older than the J-League?

          • Boris

            K League Classic was founded in 1983 as the Korean Super League. Then Korea reformed and restructured the league and renamed it K- League in 1998. So the current structure began in 1998.

            Japan had a previous league since the 60s. J League came in in 1992 (officially 1993).

            So in this sense the current forment of J League was before the current format of K League.

            The J and K league are similar in structure. J League has more money and better support but this is due to the crisis they faced in the mid to late 90s and decided to rely more on community support and diversivy what the clubs did. So they ran health programs and even had some providing the community with other sports and facilities. They turned to local sponers rather than just relying on the big names (K League teams still to an extent rely on the big companies to finance them). Then there is the youth development.

            The J league is quite inovative in how they went about building up support, setting up youth teams, networking with local middle and high schools and they also adopted the European model. The K league has improved since the mid2000s but still lacking something.

            I was there in Ulsan a few years ago. They had 3 South americans in their side, two of them left and the one that was still there ended up playing in CM when he was a LB because to be honest, he was step above the players in the side. He created more than anyone on the field but his team lost due to the rest being cack. I still try and see how Ulsan Hyundai Tigers are doing.

          • noodles76

            Nurture?

          • Boris

            yeah, that. I don’t proof read what i post. I should do, but I usually type these stuff out and then just hit post and get back to what I was doing.

            And thanks for pointing it out.

          • noodles76

            Time better spent to study to be an engineer? Really? I guess it depends on where they study. if they remain in China, they are still not considered employable/able to enter the global workforce without remedial training.

            China produces many ‘engineers’ every year but few Engineers.

          • ClausRasmussen

            I worked in a large (50.000+ employees) global company and have worked closely together with a lot of Chinese engineers. I my opinion, they’re excellent.

            What is your background for saying they’re substandard ?

        • Zappa Frank

          Come on, Chinese people may have had a game that was exceptionally close to football, but I have some doubts the present football is somehow related with the Chinese game, more likely is a reinvention.
          Football players got millions because there are millions of people to watch them, since china is such a big market and Chinese people obviously like Chinese player more there is nothing bad for them to get high salary. They suck in playing football, but that’s another thing, probably is the consequence of many factors….but don’t despair, Americans suck too, football is the most antiamerican game, loved in the whole world but not in america..

          • noodles76

            Thanks for again proving you’re an idiot.

          • Zappa Frank

            i think it was obvious i was joking.. today you are really in a bad mood, you should not take things so seriously..

          • noodles76

            You must have the driest sense of humor I have ever come across. Nothing in that post would lead others to believe you were joking. Especially considering your past post history in recent threads alone.

          • Zappa Frank

            you mean you really belived that a sentence like “football is antiamerican” can be taken seriously?
            what is past post history you are talking about?
            you really believe i’m an antiamerican?

          • noodles76

            No, I believe you’re anti common sense and devoid of reason.
            EDIT: My apologies. I was confusing you and Insomnicide.

            Though yes, it could be taken as a serious remark even among Americans. Even when I played the sport as a young kid I heard similar remarks. It’s not that I believe you or that dickhead to be anti American. They are not the same thing.

          • David

            Well, lets be clear. A lot of Americans don’t care about soccer (not hate it just don’t care anything about it,we have plenty of our own sports to watch) but there are 300 million of us. That means the number who like the game is still about the population of Italy. Also, despite my personal apathy it is becoming more popular each year.

          • Zappa Frank

            i was joking about americans and soccer, i’m sorry if it was not clear but really no intention to be serious. anyway italy has 50 milions of people, is there 1 american every 6 who like soccer?

          • David

            no problem, I did not take it as an insult, it is close to the truth. : ) hmmm 1 in 6 is probably right. More of the 15-45 year olds and less old folk like me.

          • ex-expat

            …and the more American success in events like the World Cup that number will only grow.

          • David

            Almost certainly true. Are we in the World Cup? Isn’t like the beginning of March Madness, where you have like 64 teams that make it. I am waiting until they whittle it down to maybe 4. If we make it to the top 4 THEN I will be mildly interested (OK, I shouldn’t lie, even if we won I would not care).

          • ex-expat

            Haha I don’t know a lot about it either, though I do know that the US has apparently gotten better recently.

            Yes, we are in the World Cup. We beat Ghana and just tied with Portugal. I believe we play Germany next, which is a great team, but I believe we have a great chance of qualifying for the next round regardless of what happens.

        • BJ

          Chinese think they have invented everything. Bring some proof and stop talking just by idola (See Bacone to understand this word). China has been a magnificient country and a lot of things come from there but not all the things in this world!!!!! China is not the only old country…..check Roman emperor history!!!! btw do not misunderstand this post 中国万岁!!!a game very close to football was already common among Greeks and Romans, then it developed in England. China should let students study more history.

          • Cameron

            But China has fifty thousand years history!

          • BJ

            AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH fifty thousand???? it’s five thousand!!!!Actually, it’s being said that Jiang Zemin was in Egypt around 1982 and he was talking about 3-4 thousand years of chinese history. When the locals told him that along the river Nile they have had an older civilization the chinese started to bring up the 5,000 years of history but actually there are not archeological proofs about this. Despite the numbers China has been magnificient, indeed!!!

          • noodles76

            The last thing China wants is for it’s students to study history.

        • Gordon Gogodancer

          It’s nice to have different opinions. The difficulty is trying not to have too many crap opinions. “Chinese practically invented football” ? No one is saying some people didn’t invent kicking in a ball a few hundred or thousand years ago, but that’s surely unrelated to modern football (and even if it was, who gives a crap).
          Everyone has their own self confidence issues but I’ve noticed Chinese guys can be extremely annoying when they look for any opportunity they can find to try and make themselves feel better. The truth is that they are poor dickheads and that’s exactly how they look to other people.

          • Boris

            As much as you have a point, it is sidetracking a discussion about China’s national team and football in China.

          • Insomnicide

            The FIFA official websites lists the origins of football in China. Cuju, a formalized sport played in ancient China is the equivalent of football. And they had competitions for Cuju.
            @zappa_frank:disqus

            Now what does this have to do with Chinese guys and confidence? Are you sure you’re posting on the right article?

          • Boris

            There were plenty of early forms of ball games. Cuju is one of them. There is some debate about it and it is one of those things we will never be 100% sure of.

            Modern football is considered to be created in England. England, while decent aren’t a great side. While this debate might be interesting it is in my view irrelevent to the current situation of Football in China.

            England, being the creators of ‘Modern football’ has regressed along with the other ‘home nations’ and countries such as Korea and Japan will over take them in a few years. Point of origin doesn’t matter.

            China’s issue is how to go about improving their current leagues, teams and players while rooting out corruption. If they can do that, they can be on par with the other Asian footy heavweights.

          • Insomnicide

            My point was to emphasis how long Chinese people have been playing this sport and how well they should know it, didn’t expect it to become the entire focus of this discussion.

            But yes, corruption is another thing. Chinese teams lately haven taken on a European approach to their team coaching and we’ll see how far they go.

          • Boris

            They’ve not been playing it none stop and though both the modern game and the old game involved balls and kicking it into something they are different games.

            Brazillians made the game a thing of beauty. Yet the modern game wasn’t created there. At the end of the day, what happened thousands of years ago will have no bearing on how well someone does at sport here. Otherwise England should be number one at Ping Pong.

          • noodles76

            Fair point.

          • Cameron

            That’s like saying because the English used hunting horns a thousand years ago, we should all be playing the saxophone like Kenny G. Cuju was a totally different game to modern day football.

          • Insomnicide

            Cuju was not a totally different game to football. And how about French wine being held in high esteem because they’ve been developing and perfecting the skill for hundreds of years? How would you explain that? There’s nothing genetic that makes French people better at making wine. It’s their history and tradition that gives them masters of cultivation.

          • Cameron

            Totally different. You may as well say Baseball, Basketball, Volleyball are similar as they involve throwing a ball.

            Yes, technically when a three year old is kicking a ball and running after it he is playing football. But when normal people ask “do you like football”? They do not mean a random act of kicking a ball with the foot.

            They mean the game invented in England with two teams, goalkeepers, free kicks, penalties, etc.

          • noodles76

            It’s not a genetic issue. Part of it comes down to climate and know how…the other part can be attributed to the rest of the world believing that French wine is inherently better. True or not…it’s what many (especially Chinese) believe. Americans used to have the same belief…some still do.

          • Zappa Frank

            than italian wine should be even better since we taught to french people how to do wine.. well now that i think about it is true.

          • Insomnicide

            Well hey, there you go.

          • noodles76

            I almost want to kick myself in the balls for this…but I am inclined to agree. Personally, I prefer dry as the desert red Italian wine over French wine.

          • Zappa Frank

            even if we consider cuju as football is not that a sport that was played some centuries ago has any consequence on any modern time match.

          • Zappa Frank

            korea and japan unlikely will ever take off England… maybe in a far future.. Korea and Japan are on international stage by long time, but still are far from England.

          • Boris

            That could be the case, but they are creating more technically players. It may do to the fact that they aren’t always very physical. Also the England’s method of coaching seems to antiquated.

          • Zappa Frank

            in England come coach from everywhere, till not so far they had an Italian coach for the national team and the premier league is one of the most competitive, to have a strong national championship is important.. On the other side from Korea 2002, 12years ago, no real progress from Korea (and even arguably result that time).. so my conclusion is that England, like many top team, have up and down, but unlikely korea or japan can hope to be at that level

          • Boris

            At the top level there are coaches from everywhere.

            At grass root levels, the coaches are traditionally British so more is put on about the size of the player than technical ability. Of course, recently there has been changes. It will take 10-20 years before we actually see those changes transfer onto the field with British footballers. OF course, by then, new and better systems may be out.

          • noodles76

            Honestly, I don’t care where British soccer ranks on the world stage, they produce many matches that are worth watching. Arguably more-so than the World Cup. Just keep in mind that their players do in fact come from all over the globe.

          • Boris

            The PL is a product. It sells in my opinion because there are good teams, great players (not just located in the top two teams but a bit more spread out) and the teams have different styles. The players do come from all over the world, but the product is from England and hence the need to keep producing English players. Foreigners may not care that the team is made up of foreign players but the locals would. There is always much more support for a ‘local lad’ making it through the ranks to support your team (wherever the team is based) and football teams originally started by local workers in the communities, cities or areas they are located in.

          • noodles76

            The same was said of the U.S. not long ago. Frankly I think it’s an issue of popular support. One country does not need to overtake another to become a valid competitor. There is little support for soccer in the U.S. (and I played soccer on a high level when I was young) and less support in China. The gov’t can throw as much money at it as it wants but it won’t change things. Soccer is not actively supported as a sport in China and to a significantly lesser degree in the U.S.

            Honestly, I think the Chinese could excel in soccer when it comes to faking injuries or taking dives. Sadly, that crap matters on the world stage whereas if you took a dive in the teams I played with as a youth, your own teammates would kick your ass after the game.

          • Boris

            “whereas if you took a dive in the teams I played with as a youth, your own teammates would kick your ass after the game.” Same in England. But once you get to the top level, the other teams are doing it, you will join in.

          • noodles76

            Understood. As much as I don’t like it and as much as I think it cheapens the sport in general…it sadly has become a part of the game at the highest of levels.

          • Boris

            We can agree on this.

          • Zappa Frank

            in fact actually usa is still not at the same level of England.

          • noodles76

            Not saying it is. Not sure why you replied with that.

          • Zappa Frank

            sorry i misunderstood

          • noodles76

            fair enough.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            In fact USA ranked 13, England ranked 10.
            Saying USA is not at the same level of England is like saying Italy is not at the same level of Switzerland

          • Zappa Frank

            evidently the superiror asians genes are usefull only to believe in a joke like the fifa rank.. yes italy under switzerland of course..you understood everything.
            By the way, are the genes also the explanation for the pathetic results of china in football? because is funny to see people use genes to explain good results but climb mirrors to explain bad results…

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            I don’t believe in fifa rank, I believe in quantitative measurement, unless you have a more scientific ranking method, fifa rank is the only thing that can be used to compare the relative strength of the teams.
            And I don’t think its a shame to be bad at football, actually Asians are genetically bad at many sports, but we admit that, unlike the ones who pretend genetic differences do not exist.

          • Zappa Frank

            Ok you clearly admit that you don’t know anything a bout football but like to talk…noted. In the end you already do the same talking about genetic, so there is nothing new.. You simply are one that like to talk about things he doesn’t know.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            What’s your point here?
            You have nothing to offer other than keep repeating “You don’t know anything”.

          • Zappa Frank

            While you offered what?
            My point is that football rank are not reliable, you do not believe in measures because you don’t know what they measure …and this is something anyone know soccer is perfectly aware of. You observation about football teams are so stupid that I’ve rarely seen.
            But your observations about genetic, are even worse, with no prove and confounding effects and causes you just try to push your Asians supremacy theory.. Really cheap theory by the way..hope you do not include yourself.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            My point is, fifa rank is the most reliable way of comparing the strength of two teams.
            While you disagree with me, please answer the question:
            Do you have a more reliable way than fifa rank to compare the strength of two teams?

          • Zappa Frank

            Follow soccer instead than just try to get some classification done, players, teams, and their league . And ask yourself why in so many years at every World Cup the FIFA ranking simply failed in every prevision, but this is something you don’t know since I bet till now you’ve never followed football.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            So you are saying…your subjective observations are more reliable than objective measurements?
            I bet now you’ve never attended an university since you don’t know science.

          • Zappa Frank

            I know science better than you since I care also about what is that is going to be measured and how reliable it is..

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            No, you don’t call yourself know science while claiming your judgement based on your limited experience is more reliable than FIFA ranking which is based on the data of every single international match.

          • Zappa Frank

            International matches that are not reliable at all to measure the value of a team.. like any football fan knows but not you…
            I’m bored of this discussion. Believe in FIFA, believe in god, you will get disappointed anyway..

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            International match result is an outcome of the comparative strength of teams. So inherently international match results can be used to measure the comparative strength of teams.
            If you happen to know a better measurement, please elaborate.

          • Surfeit

            No, it isn’t.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Then please make a ranking of your own and try to make it popular.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            And your statement ” at every World Cup the FIFA ranking simply failed in every prevision” is simply WRONG.

            England(rank 10) 1 : 2 Italy (Rank 9) is a proof.

          • Zappa Frank

            Yes, Balotelli scored just because Italy was 9th and England 10th.. You understood

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            The higher ranking team have a better chance winning, the result of England vs Italy is coherent with the FIFA ranking, so your statement “at every World Cup the FIFA ranking simply failed in every prevision” is WRONG.
            Now your point?

          • Zappa Frank

            FIFA ranking my ass.. Who was the first? where is the first now? Reliable?

          • Boris

            If you are using this as your evidence, you are either an idiot or you are trolling Frank.

            Spain is ranked No.1 who lost to Chile (14) and the Netherlands (15). According to your reasoning, Chile and Netherlands should not be ranked 1st and 2nd with Spain 3rd.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            You asked the question “are the genes also the explanation for the pathetic results of china in football”, and I answered, now it becomes I try to push my Asians supremacy theory?
            Please be more logical.

          • Zappa Frank

            Are you playing stupid or you are really? Like I forgot what you said before about school results?

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            That’s an old discussion, and you are the one who brought it up. You are the one started talking about genes here, not me.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            Oh and you are the one who bring up genes, but now you are blaming me for answering you questions.

          • Zappa Frank

            I bring it as example of how you talk about something with no clear idea, just to push your theory. It is an clear example of someone who wrongly use the informations he gets, like for FIFA ranking now.

          • Boris

            FIFA’s ranking system is a joke. the USA only have Mexico as the only other strong team in their continental federation. So they will win more often than not compared to those nations, hence boosting their ranks. I believe they played a German B side in a friendly few months back and lost. FIFA rankings don’t paint the whole picture.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            The point is, there is no other system that’s more reliable than fifa ranking. And mexico have been drawn against brazil, if I remember it correctly.

          • Boris

            The FIFA rankings itself is unreliable. So there is no reliable official system.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            An unreliable system is still more reliable than personal observations.

          • Boris

            It depends.

            On FIFA ranking, I could probably get a few decent knowledagble fans who could rank teams better than the FIFA system. For example Panama are 31 while Korea are 57. According to this, Panama are much better than Korea. If the two play, Korea should lose 5-0. Now, if we take people who actually watch football, know the game, the teams, the federations, they would tell you Korea should probably be above Panama and would be more likely to win. I guess a better ranking system might be who the bookies deem as favourites than FIFA ranking system.

          • Zappa Frank

            the ranking made by nate silver appears to be more reliable. but still in my opinion is about players condition more than to look at the results of the national team. very often the strongest teams use the friendly or not important games to experiment, than the result is not reliable but still used for statistic.

          • Boris

            Yes. Then there are those games where a team of Professional is taking on part timers or sunday league players (e.g. San Marino). Those tell you absolutely nothing. It would be like Barcelona playing a group of Kids in the park. Barcelona will win but it doesn’t tell you how good Barcelona are.

          • Guest

            nate silver ranking system is more reliable than fifa. but the point is that in a world cup is completely useless any system that consider 4 years before or that consider friendly games or other not so important games that are often used for experiments. Is more reliable to know what is the state of the players, what did they do in their championship, where did they play and what’s their condition.. of course is not enough.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            If you build up a methodology and make quantitative measurements based on all the above factors, then your ranking is definitly more reliable.

          • Dr Sun

            the rooting out corruption part is where this plan will fail.

          • Cameron

            FIFA hates England and for obvious reasons ($$$$) is trying to spread football as a “global” sport, hence now China invented football. No, England invented football when it wrote the rules to the game that is played today. Eg Netball is not basketball. Billiards is not snooker. A monkey is not a human. Cuju is not football.

        • Cameron

          Saying China (Cuju) practically invented the game that is watched by billions around the world is pretty stupid. There is no evidence whatsoever that there is any link / causality between the game played by the ancient Chinese (or other ball games played by the Greeks/Romans/Egyptians) and modern day football. Yes, there is a similar element – kicking a ball. But that’s about it. FIFA hates England so has decided the game known around the world as football/soccer (a game played with the head and feet/two teams/two goals/11 men etc) wasn’t created there anymore.

    • lacompacida

      PRC was in when China hosted the game several years back. And I think PRC has a strategy of keeping its team out of the World Cup.

    • noodles76

      There is little support outside of the gov’t. Chinese people in general seem to not give a half a fuck about soccer. They (many) are quick to lambast the team but you’d be hard pressed to find anyone actually support them.

    • Surfeit

      China are going to be a power house of football in the future. The infrastructure is creeping in, and the odds game is waaaaay in China’s favour.

  • Rick in China

    I love the correlation autopsy. Forensic investigator shows up, sees dead young guy, sees computer on – thinks, damn that was a good footb….wait, SHIT! This kid obviously stayed up late to watch football and croaked! *slaps hands together* Job well done.

    I’m surprised there isn’t a story about the entire family who jumped into a cess pool when the mother dropped her new phone into it while taking a sheeeit, passed out, and several died. In the cess pit of their entire family’s poop. That was a far more interesting story imo!

    • noodles76

      That story made me laugh my ass off. It would have been sad if 1) the whole thing did not start because of a fucking phone. 2) somebody tried engage their brain.

      Some may call me a dick but fuck it….that story wins the next Darwin awards. Stupidity beyond compare.

      EDIT: IIRC the woman who owned the phone went in AFTER the mother of her husband.

      EDIT2: Watching TV and staying up late is deadly………..

      • Rick in China

        It was definitely a shitty way for a family to die. More so, you’re right – the PHONE, fuck, it would have been a great piece to discuss materialism *coughs* and addiction to buying more than you obviously can afford. It was a total greek tragedy in China – I mean – the irony alone in that the deaths were instigated by the desire to get back high technology they mistakenly lost and couldn’t afford, and the means of their death was the fact they didn’t have proper plumbing and were shitting in a pit in the same manner people did millennia ago.

    • Boris

      Is there a link to the story?

      • Rick in China
        • Boris

          Thanks for the link.

          They all jumped in and got knocked out because of the smell? Some basically suffocated. But is that because of the smell and lack of air or did they faint face down?

          Sad story. Especially since the phone would probably have been ruined and wouldn’t work after such an incidient…

          • Rick in China

            Not because of the smell, but because of the fumes – ultimately suffocation, lack of oxygen. The methane a shitpit lets off is insane, imagine an ancient shit pit that is not kept in check and cleaned, left to ferment, there would be an area around the entrance where there would basically be no oxygen at all, fully displaced by the fumes from the pit. So one jumps in, only knee deep, but KO – another jumps in to save them, KO. Another. KO. Repeat..they wouldn’t have to have been face-deep to die, the lack of O2 around the shit pit alone would cause suffocation. Dying because of your own family’s shit fumes, trying to save a fuckin phone, when for far less than the cost of that same phone they could likely install basic plumping/sanitation, terrible and ironic.

          • Boris

            Get what you are saying.

  • lacompacida

    They do that just playing video games too.

  • lacompacida

    They are not good at soccer. But they are good at watching soccer.

  • They will be cracks someday

  • Zappa Frank

    I think is terrible to see that on this blog 46% of people do not watch the world’s cup. It probably means that 46% of people here are americans.

    • Alex Dương

      Probably. But just for saying that, I’m going to be rooting against Italy!

      • Zappa Frank

        haha, if you are against Italy than be prepared to get your liver exploded for the rage, we are going to have a good world’s cup :P… although I bet Brazil is going to win.
        I’ve pushed friends so much to support Italy against England that if we wouldn’t have won I would better have hidden myself to avoid the shame.. but we defeated the “perfidious Albion”

        • Gerhana

          sorry to make you guys sad but Argentina will win. Messi and Aguerro are just unstoppable.

          • Zappa Frank

            ah, no way, Messi had just a blink of light in the whole night, playing against Bosnia.. 2-1..

          • Gerhana

            thats just foreplay, they are taking their time, like any good lover :p

          • Zappa Frank

            ahahah.. good reply

          • Surfeit

            Peaking early is often Argentina’s mistake! This poor start is a good omen!

          • Dr Sun

            tell that to England, they could do with the reassurance.

          • Paulistano

            Argentina is shit, Brazil will win for sure!!!!
            heuheuhue brbrbr

            Besides this, hello my white friend!!!!!

          • Gerhana

            lol!

            I wasnt impressed with Brazilian team, they attack a lot but scored little. No more samba. They wont survive. Sorry my friend.

          • Paulistano

            Brazil has potential, but we’ll see whats going to happen.

            Now for serious, I know that still early to bet but, I think the winner would be Germany or Netherlands, they demonstrated how a real match should be

          • Zappa Frank

            brazil has always the potential, but football is not just about players talent. About Germany and Netherlands I don’t believe that who is first on fire can win the world cup.

    • bprichard

      I’m an American, and I’d gladly watch it if I didn’t value my sleep so much.

    • David

      and I am one of those Americans. But like Firebert5 said I am sure there are lot of things that I like that more than 46% of people here don’t.

      • noodles76

        felching?

        • David

          Sorry, I don’t understand.

      • Zappa Frank

        like Firebert said, i was just making fun of the stereotype.. i did not mean make fun of americans…also because in the end is just a sport. most of my posts on this topic are to be considered as world’s cup consequence on weak humans mind

    • Tova Rischi

      I’m american but the reason I’m not watching is because I’m boycotting what Brazil did to prep for it.

      • Zappa Frank

        You should boycott FIFA not Brazil. Unluckily FIFA wants always more and more and soon will become too inconvenient host the World Cup

  • Boris

    They like football. They also gamble on it and this is a big occassion. My co-workers spend half the day researching teams and asking my advice about them before deciding on who to bet on. Ask them about the Rugby or Cricket world cup and they would not know about it. Basketball is the other sport people follow here and they aren’t good at that either. Thankfully for them, not many countries take Basketball as seriously.

    Football is a sport enjoyed by many around the world. I’ve seen people play football with the bottle caps or clothes for goal posts, bare feet, in the sun, in the rain, in the snow.

    You’ll also find that there are some Chinese sponsers, so the state would like even more coverage.

    • Zappa Frank

      I told anyone to bet on Italy against England.. and they won.. else I would probably have some finger less now..

      • Boris

        I told people the same thing. And got the score right too. I’ve only got 4 games winners wrong so far and I’ve got more than half the scores right. If I gambled, I’d be able to pay for my flight to the UK.

  • YourSupremeCommander

    Who cares about football when you can watch the HEAT get their ass whooped again in game 6 tomorrow night!!!

    • Zappa Frank

      ehmm.. tomorrow? is already over 4-1
      about the football part I forgive you because you probably are American and therefore you don’t know what you say

      • YourSupremeCommander

        LOL, EXACTLY BRO. But I was referring to the Turkish curling team getting their ass whooped again by the Cuban curling team.

  • Gerhana

    maybe not enough sleep and watching marathon of football match. Kinda like young people found dead from playing too much video game in one sitting.

  • carmouflagger

    Football? YaaAAAaawwnn!!

  • BillBo

    The Chinese baffle me sometimes, I think this article shows why I love to read ChinaSmack without any real attachment to China or it’s people :)

  • Surfeit

    Socceroos!!

  • Radioactive_Panda

    All I can say is that it sounds like a sudden heart attack. Just pray he wasn’t drinking heavily while he was staying up.

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