College Girl in Taiwan Panics Over Cockroach, Calls Police

Smoky brown cockroach.

From QQ:

Female Student Calls Police: “Hurry, Save Me!” Police Rush to Scene to Find Cockroach

Taiwan’s Eastern Broadcasting Network (ETTV) reports that upon discovering a 4cm long cockroack in her room, a female college student in Kaohsiung, Taiwan, became so frightened that she called the police. Based on their “serve the public” principle, the police officers proceeded to do everything they could to exterminate the cockroach. Many netizens think the female student’s behavior was too exaggerated, and wasted social resources.

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Several nights ago, police received a call from 20-year-old Wang, who sounded terrified, speaking incoherently, unable to express herself clearly, only uttering “hurry, save me”. Fearing that Wangnü might be held hostage, the police rushed to the scene only to discover that the perpetrator was a cockroach.

As it turns out, Wang had opened a window due to the hot weather to ventilate when, unexpectedly, a cockroach ran in and started to fly around the room, frightening her to the point where she dared not go to sleep and thus called the police. The police quickly located the cockroach crawling around on the desk, grabbed it and easily tossed it out the window, thereby putting an end to this female student’s “horror episode” [in the original text: 惊魂记 is the Chinese name for the horror movie Psycho].

Many netizens think that the use of police manpower for something as trivial as a cockroach was seriously too ridiculous. Some also say that she should have asked a classmate to “deal” with the cockroach [in the original text: 代打 literally means “pitch hitter”, but here it refers to “taking care of something for someone”]. In response, the police said it dealt with the cockroach to relieve Wang from her emotional distress, but also called on the public not to waste social resources, so as not to affect their ability to carry out their normal duties.

Comments from QQ:

沉默是金

Detain her for 5 days and she’ll grow up and mature.

沉默是金 (responding to the above)

Then put 1000 cockroaches in there with her and she will be used to them when she gets out.

後知後覺 ╮

Why are there suddenly more and more ridiculous news from Taiwan?!

陌上 烟雨遥後知後覺 ╮ (responding to the above)

How can the superiority of the mainland be proven otherwise?!!!!

I have a lot of mosquitoes at home, I’m scared and want to call the police, but I don’t want to waste police manpower, ha ha

壹笙囿祢

With something as small as this, they [the police, but here referring to mainland police] definitely wouldn’t go, but they’d definitely be very proactive when it involves gambling, prostitution or pornography, because there would be illicit money [bribes] to collect.

爬墙等红杏

I really don’t understand why your dad didn’t just blow his load on the wall back then.

多久丿爬墙等红杏 (responding to the above)

Because her mom did not let me blow my load on the wall.

倾情一生

Come one, this is way too ridiculous.

鸡歪的饭虫

In the Heavenly Kingdom, this sort of thing is not handled by the police, but by firefighters!

y1个人

Is she so squeamish? I remember back then when I went into the fields to plant crops and found three leeches on my foot sucking my blood. If it was you, you probably would’ve immediately died from fright!

忆往事!

Fuck, if you’re even afraid of these things, are you still human?

工作中

I am also scared of cockroaches. After seeing this news, I know that in the future when I have cockroaches at home, I can finally call the police without worry.

⊙﹏⊙

Cockroaches fly?

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  • chandlerpatrick

    Honestly, I don’t know how to respond to this…

    • moop

      have you tried calling the police?

      • chandlerpatrick

        I did. They showed up, had a smoke, and left.

  • Joey

    I, too, am deathly afraid of the mainlander cockroaches.

  • Guest

    Honestly, I don’t know how to respond to this…
    Edit: glitch double post…plz ignore

  • Dante

    Of all the news stories to come into China from Taiwan, this one makes it……
    Sigh…

    • Aaron Wytze

      This is Taiwan after all. Heck, when the price of Beef Noodle Soup goes up 5 kuai it becomes national news.

      • Mighty曹

        Beef Noodle is like Taiwan’s national dish.

        • mr.wiener

          nom nom!

          • Mighty曹

            I do miss having a bowl.

        • Dr Sun

          and its gone up 5 kuai ?

          I thought they used TWD there, I’m so out of touch.

          • Kai

            Not sure if serious…

          • Mighty曹

            ‘kuai’ is a generic term for the equivalent of a ‘dollar’ used by Chinese speaking communities around the world. It may be followed by ‘人民币’, ‘美元’, etc.

          • Dr Sun

            Didn’t know that, I never heard a ABC use in in the States but thanks.

          • Mighty曹

            ABC’s use whatever local currency of the countries they visit.

      • Markus Peg

        It is news worthy, It is showing the stupidity of people and reminding them not to waste police time. More information about what police phone calls should be made for should be given to stop time wasters.

  • Is this a slightly veiled story regarding China’s over-sensitivity to the anniversary to tomorrows date…and the governments “behavior is too exaggerated, and a waste of social resources”

    • LaoShu

      a good old fashioned bukkake party would work wonders in that case…

  • chandlerpatrick

    I had to call the fire department once to deal with huge hornets nest in my hutong courtyard. Normally, it’s something I’d deal with myself, but it was under an overhanging roof, and really hard to get at. It was also melon sized. Any attempt to get at it would be bad news. They sent over a guy in a bee suit with some chemical spray, and he literally had to wedge himself up there, and take care of it. Not a job for the average Zhou – without a bee suit.

    • Irvin

      Put some Mcd next to the nest, they’ll probably explode due to obesity.

  • mr.wiener

    Many kids have a sheltered upbringing before they leave home for military service or uni….Still this is ridiculous.
    Taiwan cops are usually pretty laid back…except for that one a couple of months ago who shot a mate of mine in the leg for blowing through a police roadblock.

    • Brian227

      The moral of the story being don’t blow through police roadblocks, I guess.

      • mr.wiener

        Apparently so :-)

  • Free Man

    Yeah China! Push stories like these to avoid people talking about Tiananmen square. Rather laugh about Taiwan girls than cry about mainland students ran over by tanks in ’89. Im sure the surviving students from back then will understand and support.

    • Insomnicide

      And where is your sympathy for those mainland students? You sure aren’t showing it by trivializing their suffering through comparing these kinds of news to covering up the Tiananmen Square incident.

      • Free Man

        I show it by being angry about trivial news being pushed while human rights activists are threatened/silenced and mass medias are censored/manipulated.

        And where is yours? You sure aren’t showing it by questioning other people’s sincerity …

        • Insomnicide

          This is the netizen reactions to an internet news article. Not a news segment being broadcasted all over TV in China in some vain attempt to make people forget about the upcoming date.

          Where is my sincerity? I show it by not trying to hail insults on the very people you and many others are upholding as matyrs and oppressed vilgilantes.

          • Free Man

            I wasn’t asking about your sincerity, but your sympathy for the students (which I doubt is existing, because the only thing you do is attacking others who don’t want to forget or shut up by twisting their statements).

            I am well aware, that this news article is neither related to the Tianamen massacre as well as the fact that this article is a few days old. But I do suspect the chinese government pushing news like these to divide attention. Otherwise we would read stuff like “Internet censored more than ever to supress Tianamen massacre memorial”.

            Now go and get your 五毛.

          • Alex Dương

            But I do suspect the chinese government pushing news like these to divide attention.

            This came from QQ, not the People’s Daily.

          • Free Man

            And the chinese government doesn’t use QQ????

            Or chinasmack.com / disqus accounts?

          • Alex Dương

            There’s a difference between using QQ and telling QQ what news to report.

          • Free Man

            You don’t seem to get the concept. Just take some hilarious post from a social network like QQ, Facebook, Twitter, etc. (but one that works for your target group, so for China its QQ), tell the people from the disinformation department to start their bots using fake/highjacked QQ accounts and comment the shit out of this post. Job done, hilarious post gets an incredible high amount of attention and no one talks about the important stuff!

          • Alex Dương

            Um, OK. Do you want to go a step further and say that this also applies to a majority, if not all, of the comments translated for Chinasmack?

          • Free Man

            Nope.

          • Alex Dương

            So how do you know which comments are from government-paid employees and which aren’t? The subject of this article isn’t any more ridiculous than the kissing one.

          • Free Man

            Maybe because both subjects archive the same goal? Let people talk about funny kissing pics and stupid girls, then they wont bother remembering what happened 25 years ago.

            How do you know that I am not a pretty clever little computer program written by some Tibetian/Uigur???

          • Alex Dương

            Maybe because both subjects archive the same goal? Let people talk about
            funny kissing pics and stupid girls, then they wont bother remembering
            what happened 25 years ago.

            So do you want to go a step further and say all the translated comments here at Chinasmack from stupid articles are from government-paid employees?

            How do you know that I am not a pretty clever little computer program written by some Tibetian/Uigur???

            I would guess that if that were the case, then you would be focused much more on Tibetan / Uyghur independence / rights than Tiananmen Square.

          • Free Man

            “There are roads which must not be followed, armies which must not be attacked, towns which must not be besieged, positions which must not be contested, commands of the sovereign which must not be obeyed.”

            And no, I wont say psycho stuff like all the comments are from government paid employees, because THAT would be really crazy.

          • Alex Dương

            You’re in a desert, walking along in the sand, when all of a sudden you look down and see a tortoise. It’s crawling toward you. You reach down and you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t. Not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that?

          • Free Man

            I quote a clever chinese general and you ask questions from Blade Runner?

          • Alex Dương

            This concludes the Turing test. You are not “a pretty clever little computer program written by some Tibetian/Uigur.” Thank you, come again.

            Seriously, though, yes, it’s no secret that the CCP pays people to shill for it online. The problem with your claim is that it’s so subjective. There seems to be no solid reason for you to expect one article’s comments to be the doing of the CCP and another article’s comments to be independent.

          • Free Man

            I didn’t get flustered about the thought of killing an animal. Or should I’ve tried to shoot you?

            You might have misunderstood me or I might have made myself unclear. I am not claiming this news is pushed by the chinese government. What I am angry about is that news like these are considered a hot topic, while there are (imho) more important topics to discuss but are being surpressed by the PRC government and ignored by the chinese population.

          • Alex Dương

            First, what do you think is a more important topic to discuss? And please, limit it to current events. It’s a bit unrealistic to expect Chinese netizens to discuss an event that happened twenty-five years ago on a daily basis.

            Second, you’re aware that in the U.S., “the masses” similarly prefer to discuss topics like these rather than, say, the legality of warrantless domestic surveillance? If that happens without U.S government interference (or does it?), why would you not expect something similar in China?

          • Markus Peg

            The Chinese people wont talk about Tienanmen square online because A: many don’t know, B: they would be searched and silenced and C: it is banned and wont even be posted, it it does it will be deleted ASAP. So how would they talk about it online?

            Lastly many Chinese overseas that do find out either A: Don’t want to know in case it gets them in trouble or B: learn about it but wont talk about it for the same reasons as A.

            As for Taiwan… It would depend on the website, but I’m not sure how much the young generations know or care about it. The media on the other hand probably will mention it tomorrow.

          • Alex Dương

            Free Man’s point seemed to be that the Chinese should be talking about Tiananmen but aren’t for the reasons you listed. My response is that it’s not clear to me how reasonable it is to expect “the masses” to talk about an event that happened a quarter century ago.

            It is not that it should be forgotten, but if Free Man is expecting “high quality discourse,” I’d like to know what current events he has in mind that he thinks Chinese netizens should be talking about.

          • Free Man

            Water polution, air polution, corruption of government officals, human rights violation, police abusing their position … wait until you see my list for the USA and Germany, they are much longer.

          • Alex Dương

            Read some of the other articles. These are routinely discussed by Chinese netizens.

          • Markus Peg

            They do talk about these things… They may not always be on Chinasmack but they do talk about them, sometimes those comments get deleted other times they don’t…

            EDIT: Chinasmack is not here to take sides and be political, it is here for one simple reason, to show us in English the big topics being spoken about online in China and sometimes other Chinese speaking forums not based in the mainland.

          • Free Man

            Nobody complained about chinasmack. Not this time at least.

          • Markus Peg

            In regards to Chinasmack. – At the time of writing that message their was a reason I said that, now I’m not sure where that reason has gone, perhaps it was for another comment that i can no longer find, maybe not even you. I think my point was even if they are talking about such issues online, if it isn’t one of the biggest stories it won’t make it to Chinasmack. Many issues that don’t take China’s side do not usually become big hot topics.

          • Free Man

            “Many issues that don’t take China’s side do not usually become big hot topics.”

            And thats exactly what makes annoys me the most.

          • Free Man

            Its something complained about frequently here, though the address of the complains is wrong. I don’t blame chinasmack, I like the website very much, because it’s not (only) full of people suffering from yellow fever and fighting like crazy bitches against anyone without a non-positive attitude towards China.

          • Kai

            I want to clarify a bit here. cS’s editorial mission is to report on popular stories, but there ARE instances where what is posted here isn’t the most popular or is easily arguably less popular than something else that is topical. This is covered in our FAQ. I reiterate this because while people should look forward to cS reporting on trending topics, I don’t want anyone to mistakenly believe every single thing is the biggest story in China. It just isn’t realistic since we pretty much only update once a day and there’s limits to every contributor’s attention span and judgement.

            Furthermore, I’d disagree with your last sentence as a general statement. Most of the big hot topics easily reflect negatively on China and/or the Chinese government.

          • Markus Peg

            I should have wrote more carefully, when i said take China’s side I was thinking when the story is about international events, of course within China a lot of negative statements are made such as pollution and the police… Most people will defend their own country over international issues though.

          • Kai
          • Free Man

            I suggested the chinese government was having QQ and Disqus accounts and using them to manipulate public opinion. Anything else is a misunderstanding on your side.

          • Kai

            To be fair, you said “chinasmack.com / disqus accounts”. I don’t think you can blame me for misunderstanding the “chinasmack.com” in there.

            Next, I think the people you are arguing with, including myself, all know the Chinese government manipulates public opinion. The push back you are getting is that you have zero proof and poor rationale for that being involved here.

            The Chinese internet has a huge spectrum of content publishers who themselves have a huge spectrum of content producers all reporting on and publishing a huge spectrum of stories each day. What makes you think so many of these stories are being “pushed” by the government specifically to distract specifically from Tiananmen? As opposed to some content monkey at QQ seeing something from a news feed about Taiwan and thinking “hm, that’s funny, lemme syndicate it.” Why do you assume nefarious conspiracies when entirely mundane reasons are more likely?

          • Free Man

            I am not blaming anyone. It’s totally possible that I made myself unclear. If so, my apologies, will try to get better.

            You’ve said you know the Chinese government is manipulating public opinion. Do you have proof for this yourself? Can you show it (not some links, but an actual proof of what I think we both believe)? If not, then why ask me for proofing my opinion? Also, in the comment you are referring to, I say “I suspect”, not “I know” or “I have proof”. So please don’t misunderstand me on purpose or twist my comments just because you don’t like me or my opinion.

            The reason I assume/suspect this is merely the current events like certain groups of human rights activists being arrested, journalists not allowed to enter Tiananmen square, and the chinese internet behaving in ways that clearly shows someone at the chinese internet backbones is preventing anything from going public about this subject. I read news on a swiss newspaper (printed, not online, so please dont ask for reference) about a group of people that held some kind of memorial event 5 years ago without problems, that was arrested somewhen this week. I can’t proof most of this (beside the stuff happening on the internet within China), but in my experience such stuff isn’t something very unlikely to happen in China.

            Now, were is your proof I am wrong? Or are you not saying I am wrong?

          • Kai

            The government doesn’t hide the fact that it recruits and employs people to manage online public opinion. They have explicitly named ministries and departments empowered by explicit legislation and policy documents for this stuff. You want proof for what you think we both “believe”. I think you believe whereas I know. There’s an important difference there.

            I’m asking you to prove your claim that the Chinese government is pushing this article to distract from Tiananmen. I’m not asking you for proof that the government manipulates public opinion. Just because the government does doesn’t mean it is doing so in this case. I think this is easy to understand. For example, just because the US government has lied doesn’t mean the US government lied about the moon landing.

            I understand you “suspect” but conspiracy theorists “suspect” as well. There needs to be some persuasive basis for your suspicions. What makes your suspicion so incredulous to others including myself is that there are tons of articles published every day and they are published for a very long list of incredibly mundane reasons that are far more likely than “government wants to distract from Tiananmen”. I think Alex tried to impart this understanding on you as well. You ignoring all of those much more likely reasons to “suspect” a nefarious one doesn’t strike me as being very rational.

            This QQ article was published on May 28th. It was actually sourced from the ChinaNews website, and their Taiwan news section at that. Is the writer for the the ChinaNews Taiwan section trying to distract people from the 25th anniversary of Tiananmen coming up a week later? Is every article not about Tiananmen on ChinaNews.com and QQ.com published since May 28th concerted efforts by the Chinese government to distract from Tiananmen? Is Patrik Andersson, the contributor who chose and translated this article because he thought it was interesting trying to distract from Tiananmen?

            You need to balance your suspicions with rationality.

            You also need to recognize that claims and accusations are not simple “opinions”. I disagree with your claims and accusations, not simply because you have an “opinion”.

          • Kai

            I recently read an answer about this issue on Quora by Kaiser Kuo that I think can give you guys a bit more context and insight into your perceptions about China:

            http://www.quora.com/How-many-Chinese-people-really-know-about-the-Tiananmen-incident-and-how-many-of-those-still-support-the-Communist-Party

          • Free Man

            Chinese people complain about the japanese not being honest about comfort women during WW2, which happened more than 60 years ago. So why not complain about chinese peope not being honest about what happened in Beijing in 1989?

          • Markus Peg

            When you say Chines people, you mean the government. Many of the people do not know and would not believe it if you told them. The only argument they can put to this would be that China did that to their own nation not another country. (Though that is no excuse, your comment won’t change anything)

            The biggest reason for not talking about it when you DO know is due to fear of being punished for doing so.

          • Alex Dương

            Do they complain about comfort women’s (lack of) recognition on a daily basis, or only when some idiot Japanese politician denies it? Again, name a current event that you think the Chinese “should” be talking about.

          • Free Man

            The new chinese oil platform in front of Vietnams coast? Every time I ask a chinese person about it, he/she changes the subject.

          • Markus Peg

            Depends on the person, Depends on your relationship with said person.. The same could be said of any country… I would not go up to some random guy in a bar in Germany and start talking about the execution camps of Nazi Germany. Nor would I do that to someone i know who has no want to talk about such things. Not everybody cares about the political and workings of things outside of their hometown.

          • Free Man

            Most of my chinese family doesn’t know about said platform, but they do know when “some idiot Japanese politician denies” the japanese army abusing korean/chinese women during WW2 or when said “idiot Japanese” goes to some shrine to pray.

            I wouldn’t go to Tiananmen square and raise a tibetian flag either. But right now we are discussing something on the internet, so I guess its, ok, no? And you are welcomed to discuss the nazi camp with me. I am german, I admit they existed and I admit my grandparents were idiots for allowing this to happen.

          • Markus Peg

            Not everyone is so open minded. Some people simply do not care to find out things. If your Chinese family is in China or plan to return to China or have a good job position in China or related to a Chinese company then they might take the view that ignorance is better to avoid danger. I can relate to this as I have seen people who don’t wish to know for these reasons.

            Germany is a free state and the government would not threaten those that have different views to them. Being able to express and debate your opinions has been a freedom many of us were born into, but, when you are not born into that kind of society, it would make it harder for such comments to be posted online to strangers or willingness to open up to a foreigner about such things. They may well talk about it with their Chinese friends. But speaking to a foreigner especially about embarrassing issues can be difficult for them.

            I did not know you were German, I apologies for using that as an example. Knowing about history and being reminded of it all the time are two very different things and I am sympathies with you in relation to that. (I have been watching Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter” (Our Mothers, Our Fathers). It has parts that are hard to watch, but for Germany to have made this about their own nation (self reflection over bad history) is a feat that you wont see China any time soon.

          • Free Man

            “Germany is a free state and the government would not threaten those that have different views to them.”

            Then go to Germany and say those camps didn’t exist and see what happens. You will get arrested and accused of denying the holocaust by the government (though I think this is a violation of the rights of opinion and speech, even if its matter-of-factly wrong).

            There is absolutely no need to apologize about using the camps as an example. I was taught to never forget this happened and to never let it happen again (one thing school was good for).

            The chinese in my family are simply half ignorant and half unknowing. They don’t “see” stuff like the oil platform, they only see others attacking them. My wife didn’t know about tankman until I showed her pictures and videos. A few of the family is currently staying with me outside of China, but even if you provide information, they fear loosing face and start fighting.

          • Markus Peg

            Freedom of speech has limits, you cannot go around being
            racist without punishment or denying things that are fact such as the camps as it could anger those that it effected. Most who claim it did not happen do so to piss others off.

            Despite that, I feel my statement about Germany having freedoms in regards to the government to still be valid. However, your view would hold more weight to it than my own as i am not German nor have I been to Germany. I would not claim to have more knowledge than you about such things.

            I have been in the same situation I decided such issues should not be forced on the family members despite my own feelings, however, no one is closer to you than a wife or children and they should know how you feel and be aware of other sides to stories. It takes time. It depends on your wife how much she wants to hear and accept. My fiance talks about such things [offline of course] but we have a limit to the length of time we go on about it as politics can get in the way of other things, though we share the same opinions in most cases.

          • Free Man

            The freedom of whatever in Germany is definitely way better than in China and protected by nearly independent judges. I am sure that you usually would never loose a law suit despite being right, just because the other party is rich or part of the government (or just related to such kind). Also there is the history issue, so I guess the limits I told you about are somehow understandable and as you said your self, “it could anger those that it effected”.

            I have a rule: when in Rome, do as the romans. So while being in China, I shut up, stop thinking and just go with the flow. But every time I come back I start thinking again and stop doing stuff, just because everybody does it. And I make use of my right of free speech and opinion. Part of that was me today telling the my wife and the world, that I don’t think its right to ignore events like Tiananmen square in ’89 and laugh about a taiwanese girl being scared of cockroaches instead. Even if it means heavy discussions.

            BTW: I just found out, one member of my chinese family knew about Tiananmen square, the date it happened and even that its going to be 25 years this year. Guess who he’s working for: the police. He is always put on stand-by during such times to get ready and smash some heads …

          • Markus Peg

            Interesting about your family member, I have enjoyed our
            discussion. I agree we should not ignore but rather, learn from the event, but, doing so without putting others or myself in risk/danger.

          • Teacher in China

            Heard a story recently about a local high school history teacher who is in his final year of teaching telling his students all about Tiananmen in ’89. Heard it from one of the students, who had many questions for me on the subject, which I happily talked about. Also spent this morning looking at pictures with my Chinese wife, who only recently (a few months ago) learned about it (through me). As long as there are people out there talking about continuously, the story won’t die any time soon.

          • Kai
          • Alex Dương

            It would seem to me that the Chinese netizens whose comments were translated in this article

            http://www.chinasmack.com/2014/stories/taiwanese-in-vietnam-riots-turn-to-mainland-china-for-help.html

            would have an opinion on the subject, though as Markus said, they may not necessarily share it with you (or me).

          • Free Man

            They talked about “chinese” people being hurt during the protests, not about the platform or China’s right to build such a platform in another country’s part of the ocean, something I’d like to hear from a chinese person.

          • Alex Dương

            It seems obvious to me that they support the deployment of the oil rig.

          • Markus Peg

            These kinds of issues are partly nationalistic, Either they believe it is China’s right due to what they have been told or taught in school.

            Or they don’t care whose right it is but they want China (their home country) to gain more.

            It is not just China who has people like this. But the lack of knowledge about such issues is the main issue for many Chinese. How do they research such things in Chinese to show the other side of the story, what website will post truth in Chinese for Chinese claiming to shine China as doing something wrong? – Not many…

            I don’t wish to put a negative spin on things, China is both wonderful and scary, it has great things and bad things… This is true with many nations around the world including my own.

          • Alex Dương

            Do you grant the possibility that China has a legitimate claim to the Paracel Islands?

          • Markus Peg

            This is another possibility, I was not thinking of that issue specifically when i wrote my message, i was thinking about many disputes. I was writing about their thought process as i see it in relation to being asked questions about such issues. Honestly speaking it is not an area i have researched enough to give a fair comment.
            Re-reading my own above comment, that was my bad to not include that option.

          • Alex Dương

            I recognize your point. I think that poor education in China hurts the ability of Chinese to make reasoned arguments in support of legitimate claims to disputed territories.

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            The platform is 120 miles away from Vietnam’s coast, and is only 25 miles away from the Chinese owned island zhongjian dao. So there is nothing wrong with the oil platform, which is perfectly located within the Chinese EEZ.

          • Free Man

            Both China and Vietnam claim those islands. So depending on which side you are you can exchange the words “China” and “Vietnam” in your comment. Thanks, though, for sharing your view with me.

          • Kai

            …which is, IMHO, better than the war-mongering bullshit spouted by hypernationalist netizens online.

            I get the feeling you’re the type of person who asks questions of Chinese people in a way that makes them feel threatened and defensive, that you’re looking for excuses to criticize and attack things you associate them to for which they cannot reasonably affect.

          • Free Man

            You are free to feel whatever you want and think of me whatever you want and say so online. And so am I.

            Maybe you are right about my way of asking things. But then again, how can you ask such questions without being offensive? Please give me an example, because I am willing to learn and improve, as it will make my life much easier.

          • Kai

            By first building trust.

            Did you read the link I gave you?

            http://www.quora.com/How-many-Chinese-people-really-know-about-the-Tiananmen-incident-and-how-many-of-those-still-support-the-Communist-Party

            There’s a good part where Kaiser Kuo discusses how people say very different things depending on who is asking them. If you can understand what it takes to get someone to trust you and open up to you with their most honest opinions, you can understand how you can ask such questions without being offensive.

            Maybe there is something about how you broach such topics that give people the sense that you’re picking a fight. How would you disabuse them of such a fear? That you are sincerely curious? That you’ll hear them out and discuss things in good faith?

          • Free Man

            I won’t just lie and just say that I’ve read it. It’s a bit more than just reading and answering your comment, and I still have to finish some work.

            You can ask such questions without being offensive by building trust first? I think thats logically not right. The question remains offensive, even if you ask it to a person you built a good relationship with. If you feel attacked or offended by a question, this feeling usually doesn’t change just because you like the person who is asking.

          • Kai

            Kaiser Kuo’s answer to that Quora question isn’t very long. For someone who professes to be so interested in what Chinese think about Tiananmen, I would imagine you would’ve been eager to read the answers on that Quora question since it is so relevant.

            Yes, you are more likely to get honest answers for certain questions if trust is first built between you and the other person. That trust influences how they interpret your question and your possible motives for asking such a question. Often the wording of a question isn’t necessarily offensive in of itself, but the identity of the asker and the dynamic or context in which the question is asked could lead the person asked to distrust the asker. I will often respond differently to strangers than I do people I know and have some understanding of. I may indulge in casual stereotypes with friends whom I trust to know the limits and seriousness of what I mean but I won’t when strangers are around. A kid might bitch about their mom to their best friend but not with some random stranger. This should be pretty easy to understand, dude.

          • Free Man

            Well, its bookmarked and will be read, but not now, because I really take it seriously, even if you think otherwise.

            I disagree that trust will lead a normal chinese person to saying what they honestly think, if the subject is something putting China in a bad spot. I rather expect it the other way around.

            I got very polite answers from students I’ve just met days or months ago. Saying its the chinese way or foreigners can’t understand, because they haven’t been in China. I got less polite answers from friends and family I know for years. If you ask a question that, if truthfully answered, would lead to a loss of face, I am answered with another question about something bad from outside of China. Sometimes they start screaming and get angry and you get a fight instead of an answer.

          • Kai

            I disagree that trust will lead a normal chinese person to saying what they honestly think, if the subject is something putting China in a bad spot. I rather expect it the other way around.

            I’m disheartened that you harbor such a view. It seems to me you haven’t even tried to build trust before concluding that you’ll never get an honest self-critical opinion from a Chinese person just because it “puts China in a bad spot”.

            Chinese people can be defensive about criticisms of their country and their people, but it sounds like you want Chinese people to criticize themselves before you’ll even respect them. That’s not the path towards building trust. Just because you’ve met someone for months or known someone for years doesn’t mean you have trust built up in the areas of discussion you want to broach with them.

            One of the easiest ways to build up trust and defuse people’s suspicions of whether or not you’re out to judge them is to be humble, to demonstrate humility. One of the best ways to get people to talk shit about their own is to talk shit about your own. If you volunteer weakness, others may as well. If you go on the attack, others are just going to get defensive. This is human nature.

            If you’re getting deflections, there’s a high probability that you’re coming across as pointing your finger in other people’s faces, rubbing their noses in, being judgemental and contemptuous. They’re pointing to bad things outside of China because you’re coming across as being holier-than-thou and self-righteous. They think you’re being unfair. Whether you intend to or not, you may want to rethink how you’re wording yourself and broaching certain topics.

            If I and other foreigners can have good heart-to-heart honest conversations with Chinese people, there’s no fundamental reason why you can’t. Choosing to believe Chinese are so nationalistic and vainly thin-skinned as to be incapable of being honest about the negatives of China is just laziness. It’s what you want to believe because you can’t be bothered to invest in building up trust and just want to get at Chinese people criticizing themselves and putting themselves down. Chinese people can smell that a mile away. Many people can. Why would anyone play into that?

          • Free Man

            Since our experiences of China seem so completely different and incompatible I consider it pointless continuing this discussion. I know what I saw and experienced and nothing you or anyone else says will change that. I believe you are the same and won’t change your mind just because of what I write here. That’s fair enough to me. But since I think you’ve tried honestly to have a good and educating conversation (even though some of the things we said might have hurt the other party), I’d like to give you my honest conclusion before I shut up and wait until the next interesting ChinaSmack article.

            In my first comment I expressed my feelings about what chinese are talking about today and (more importantly) what not. From the upvotes it looks like I am not alone. Most of what came afterwards feels so childish right now and I am angry about myself letting others provoke me to take part of it. Only a few comments afterwards from me or others are really worth reading.

            I read the content of the link you’ve provided, as promised. While the insight is really interesting and much deeper than I ever got into a chinese persons mind, I still think it proves me right about my feelings I stated in my first comment. There was this line in a comment why people would say they don’t know about the Tiananmen massacere: “because it was the fastest way out of a conversation that to them had no upside at all”. That line made me really sad, but proves one of my opinions you can consider a “prejudice” (and you would most likely be right, but again, my experience says I am right): a chinese person will never care for anything not holding an actual for himself, even if it could be helpful to others.

            As I’ve said before, I come from a country with a sad history and I was told to never forget about our history. Thats because we don’t want it ever to happen again, just because nobody believes it could actually happen. So I get angry when I hear about people not caring about similar events in their own history, because I fear that it will only lead to more suffering in the future, maybe not for themself, but for their children.

            If you believe any of my explanations or not, I couldn’t care less. You can go on saying whatever you want, which imho is your good and valuable right. But for this article I am done, now. Cheers and good night!

          • Kai

            Thank you for recognizing my good intentions in conversing with you.

            I know what I saw and experienced and nothing you or anyone else says will change that.

            Sincere question: Do you think you might exude this attitude when talking to Chinese people?

            I believe you are the same and won’t change your mind just because of what I write here.

            I change my mind all the time. I’ve written mea culpas when presented with persuasive evidence and arguments that change what I understand about a situation. See the mainland kid shitting on HK street post.

            The thing is, what you’ve written here hasn’t persuaded me that my advice to you is unreasonable or inapplicable with regards to potentially improving your situation.

            I’m appealing to you to acknowledge how human it is to be defensive. I’m appealing to you to build trust with individuals in order to get greater depth and honesty in discussion of topics you’re interested in.

            However, you seem to be rejecting my well-intentioned advice by appealing to broad stereotypes and prejudices, to assumptions and generalizations about Chinese people and their resistance to talking about things that make Chinese look bad. You’re telling me you don’t even want to try because you’ve already made up your mind about “Chinese people”: Does that strike you as reasonable?

            If other people can have different results interacting with “Chinese people”, then don’t you think you ought to re-evaluate the conclusions or assumptions you have about “Chinese people”? Why persist in them?

            Note that nowhere have I denied that Chinese people can be defensive or even nationalistic. All I’m saying is that there are proven ways to get more honest opinions out of Chinese people by first building the trust necessary for people to open up to you. How can this be denied? Why the resistance to this advice? You seem to be rejecting legit advice in order to continue clinging to a prejudice. That’s not very rational, is it?

            In my first comment I expressed my feelings about what chinese are talking about today and (more importantly) what not. From the upvotes it looks like I am not alone.

            Just because others share your view doesn’t make that view legitimate or fair as applied in this case. You judged this article in a context of your own creation as opposed to its actual context.

            – Because June 3 is close to the Tiananmen anniversary, you failed to see that the original article was published on May 28th, a whole week before the anniversary.

            – Because the Tiananmen anniversary is coming up, you decide that anything not about it must be a government plot to distract from it.

            – Because you think Tiananmen is important, you won’t allow other people to possible report on, read, or discuss anything else.

            – Because you know the government can manipulate public opinion by controlling the media and using “wumao” commenters, you assume this must’ve been, again, a government plot to distract from Tiananmen.

            I get that you’re expressing disappointment or angst that Chinese people are not talking about Tiananmen when you think they should. The reason you got pushback from people including myself is because that disappointment or angst led you to make presumptuous and ultimately unpersuasive claims about what this article is.

            Pushing back on how mistaken you are about this article and its existence doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have opinions about the importance of Tiananmen and whether or not Chinese people are talking about it. It just means you made a specific claim that isn’t persuasive. Don’t mistake objections to your claim as objections to how you feel about Tiananmen.

            With that out of the way, lemme address the rest of your comment:

            There was this line in a comment why people would say they don’t know about the Tiananmen massacere: “because it was the fastest way out of a conversation that to them had no upside at all”. That line made me really sad, but proves one of my opinions you can consider a “prejudice” (and you would most likely be right, but again, my experience says I am right): a chinese person will never care for anything not holding an actual for himself, even if it could be helpful to others.

            I think you’re being too hard on Chinese people for a common human cost-benefit calculation. You’re asking individual Chinese people to be martyrs for a larger amorphous cause. There’s a reason why we celebrate martyrs and revolutionaries and whatever: because they dared to do what the vast majority of others dared not.

            Are you really unable to empathize with Chinese people who, in Kaiser Kuo’s answer, conclude there is more risk than profit in making a big public deal about Tiananmen? Are you really unable to empathize with people around the world who daily choose to move on with their lives than agitate over a past injustice or grievance?

            Should the people of Nanjing refuse to purchase Japanese goods and constantly attack Japanese people in retribution for the Rape of Nanjing?

            My point isn’t to say Tiananmen is equivalent to the Rape of Nanjing. My point is to say people move on and people DO make calculations of whether or not they can achieve anything meaningful or if what can be achieved is worth the potential costs.

            Were you or any of the people upvoting you at Tiananmen Square yesterday protesting or bringing greater Chinese awareness or attention to 6.4? Or did you guys decide that it’d be a quick way to get in trouble with Chinese police and instead complain about it, in English, on a site of predominantly foreign readers, and perhaps clicking an upvote button in slactivist fashion?

            Come on, think about this in context. Look at the larger picture. You might get arrested and deported. A Chinese national? They face much higher costs. Can you not empathize with that? Instead you’re going to say mean-spirited prejudicial things like “a chinese person will never care for anything not holding an actual [benefit?] for himself, even if it could be helpful to others.”

            There are plenty of Chinese people who care for things that don’t directly benefit themselves. Your generalization is equally true for any other X person in the world. The vast majority of people in this world behave like this regardless of how much they want to overestimate themselves. History has proven it time and time again. All you end up doing here is expressing a prejudice you want to cling to about Chinese people. I doubt that’s what you intended or how you see yourself, but that’s what you’re communicating.

            Don’t get me wrong, you’ll get lots of people who agree with you, because they share the same prejudice. That doesn’t change the fairness of your prejudice. Is this prejudice more important than being a “fair” person?

            As I’ve said before, I come from a country with a sad history and I was told to never forget about our history. Thats because we don’t want it ever to happen again, just because nobody believes it could actually happen. So I get angry when I hear about people not caring about similar events in their own history,

            I think individuals deciding it is more advantageous to move on is still qualitatively different from simple “not caring”. These Chinese people who consciously decide not to dredge up Tiananmen still care about government abuse of power and use of violence. They still think these things are wrong. They still care about greater government accountability to the people.

            It’s not that they don’t care, they’re just choosing their battles.

            I don’t think this very human behavior should result in unfair contempt for “Chinese” people. If you “lost” the birth lottery and were born as a Chinese person in China, do you think you’d behave much differently from them? After growing up in the same environment as they are? With the same resources and under the same government as them?

            I’m not saying people shouldn’t fight for improving their situation, I’m pushing back against your judgmental conclusions. You’re not going to spur the average Chinese person into caring more about Tiananmen by saying things like “just as I thought, you people don’t care about anything that has no benefit for yourselves”. You might as well be sneering at them. This isn’t how you build trust with people, or gain influence with them.

            Alright, so I hope after this you understand that there are several separate issues here.

            1. There’s pushback against your claims about this article being some nefarious plot by the Chinese government to distract from Tiananmen.

            2. There’s feedback and advice on how you might get higher quality discussions with Chinese people.

            3. There’s acknowledgment for your general angst about how Tiananmen is treated in the public sphere of China.

            Try not to conflate them together, and you won’t have to care about whether I “believe” your explanations for why you care about or what you feel about Tiananmen. I was never asking for explanations for why you care or what you feel about Tiananmen.

          • Insomnicide

            Comparing apples and oranges here. What does the comfort women issue have anything to do with the Tiananmen incident?

            The Tiananmen incident is an issue of political oppression. While the comfort women issue is about systematic rape, sexual slavery, abuse of women, racism, and last but not least, warcrime denial. It’s different when one is about the practices within one nation. And the other is atrocities committed a nation invading another nation.

            Besides, many people in China do not deny that Tiananmen incident happened. Many of them don’t even know about it in the first place. Whereas there are people who know very well about the comfort women issue in Japan and publicly deny it.

          • Free Man

            Read the whole conversation, idiot, not just what I wrote. Then you will find the answer to your question yourself.

          • Kai

            It’s not that Chinese people don’t complain, it’s that you don’t think enough of them complain loudly enough to satisfy you. Chinese people feel the same way about other nationalities and their own national problems or hypocrisies. What now?

          • Free Man

            So you want everybody just to shut up and keep things as they are today? If nobody complains, then how the hell are people supposed to notice that there is a problem?

          • Kai

            Can you please quote where I said I want everybody to shut up and keep things as they are today?

            You might get further in your conversations with Chinese people if you didn’t put words in their mouths and then attack the straw man you’ve forced onto them.

          • Free Man

            Did I say you’ve said such words? I just asked if thats the course you suggest. Now, who is putting words in other people’s mouth?

          • Kai

            You’ve got to be joking. Okay, can you quote what I’ve said to give you reasonable basis for thinking and then asking if that’s what I suggest?

          • Free Man

            I asked you a question. Neither did I say you suggested it nor did I say this as a statement. I asked you if you think this is the right course to take.

            But to be fair, my last comment was as stupid as yours, because in fact you didn’t put any words in my mouth.

            Can we stop this child’s game of “He said this”-“But he said that” and go back to a normal conversation? You’ve made some good points, but this one is just nonsense.

          • Kai

            I feel you’re being disingenous which I’ll explain below but I will answer your “question” just to get it out of the way.

            No, don’t want everybody just to shut up and keep things as they are today.

            Your second question is rhetorical as I believe your first was. So let me explain:

            Note that you said “So you want…”. The whole “So you…” wording is almost always an indication of someone expressing their interpretation (often a straw man) of what another person is saying or arguing. Straw men often involve putting words in other people’s mouths or otherwise substituting what their position is with a weaker one. I felt you did this.

            Why? Because I cannot identify any reasonable basis in anything I’ve said directly leading up to your comment there for you to think that is the course (among all the courses out there) I “want” to take.

            ake a moment to review what I wrote and what it was in response to. It has no bearing whatsoever on what I think or want Chinese people to do The only thing that could fuel what you think I want Chinese people to do would have to be baseless presumptions.

            If, for example, a Chinese person complained about Americans not complaining about American human rights abuses and I said to him that they do but he just doesn’t think they complain loudly enough to satisfy him, AND likening it to how Americans feel the same way about other nationalities, would it make sense to suddenly say to me “So you want everybody just to shut up and keep things as they are today?”

            And then defend that as a genuine question?

            I dunno man, I think you’re reaching. I don’t think my consternation with you on this is nonsense at all. You’re basically insulting my reading comprehension and I’m not persuaded that I’ve interpreted you unreasonably.

            I appreciate you acknowledging that I didn’t put any words in your mouth and that you were mistaken with a previous comment. I think however you’re unfairly projecting certain beliefs and positions onto me.

          • Free Man

            The question wasn’t rhetorical only but pure sarcasm. I know you don’t suggest such stuff and I even think you strongly oppose it, but such sarcastic questions are a pretty common way of letting someone know he isn’t really helpful on finding a solution to the problem at hand. If you still don’t get it, I have no idea how to further explain this. Anything else you just wrote feels like its still based on the assumption that you think that I think (argh, semantic headache coming) you suggest such nonsense.

          • Kai

            I’m trying to be charitable and give you the benefit of the doubt but I don’t buy your explanation here. I’ll let people reading this judge the sensibility of your response to my comment for themselves. I’ve said what I felt needed to be said out of fairness to myself.

          • Brian227

            Describe, in single words, only the good things that come into your mind about your mother.

          • Alex Dương

            It’s too bad she won’t live. But then again, who does?

          • mr.wiener

            Good reference!

          • Alex Dương

            Haha, thanks. Blade Runner quotes are my go to whenever someone pretends to be a bot.

          • Kai

            LoL, does that happen a lot to you?

          • Alex Dương

            Oh man, I was so disappointed from using Tinder. I uninstalled it after I felt like every fourth profile was a bot. Some were very easy to spot (too stilted; followed a script without any deviation), but others were amazingly sophisticated IMO. That’s where Blade Runner comes in xD

          • Dr Sun

            Are you saying that the CPC has editors and mods on China smack ?

            Come on spill the beans which of the mods are 五毛 ?

          • Free Man

            I am not saying such nonsense. Though, sometimes I have the feeling that 五毛 volunteers are around as well as some serious cases of yellow fever (hard to distinguish between both), writing comments on websites using Disqus. For those who didn’t know, ChinaSmack is using a 3rd party service for its comment functionality. Anyone can create an account on Disqus and start commenting. Also the CPC 五毛 army. Hell, even I created my account when I was in China. Thats what I’ve meant when I said “chinasmack.com / disqus accounts”.

            About the mods: I have never seen a website which such patient (or lazy?) mods. You have to seriously screw up, before they even start warning you. That goes for the yellow fever cases as well as for the other China-haters.

            I can’t say such nice things about Weibo, QQ & Co. which are filled with 五毛 comments on subjects that are accepted by the CPC, while non-CPC-conform comments get deleted asap.

          • mr.wiener

            “About the mods: I have never seen a website which such patient (or lazy?) mods”
            Well gee, thanks…I think.

          • Kai

            I get the feeling you’re too eager to assume people who espouse opinions objectionable to you are paid shills for the Chinese government. Sometimes they’re just ordinary people with different opinions.

          • Free Man

            I get the feeling you are trying to do exactly the same.

          • Kai

            An eagerness to assume people are paid shills for the Chinese government is not simply a “different opinion” except in the broadest and most useless definition of “opinion”.

          • Free Man

            Well, that’s your opinion.

          • mr.wiener

            If anyone is getting paid I want to know so I can apply for back wages!

          • Dr Sun

            just 5 jiao a post Wiener, you are going to have to post more

          • Insomnicide

            I’m pointing out people who are making a mockery of their legacy. And how can I not have sympathy for Chinese people who died fighting for a brighter future for their nation? Others don’t have the same sympathy for them, or any Chinese at all.

            Yes, I must be a wumao because I’m not insulting mainland Chinese at every second sentence. Not trying to disrespect what constitutes as a serious situation. Is this what passes for an argument these days? Find someone you disagree with and call them a shill?

          • Free Man

            Well, maybe not an Wumao, but an idiot with a serious case of yellow fever. I really considered giving you a proper reply explaining myself, but after reading your other comment way down here I decided to just ignore you, like you are ignoring most of what I really say. If you want to see only small portions of the actual conversation, please see this one: you are ignorant.

          • Kai

            So people with a different opinion are either wumao or have yellow fever? WTF? Is that like how some Chinese netizens accuse other Chinese netizens of being American running dogs because they might have a different opinion?

          • Free Man

            No, its just how I react when someone is just saying nonsense about what I’ve said.

          • Insomnicide

            I’m not even sure if you know what yellow fever is, or anyone in real life with yellow fever. But regardless, having yellow fever cannot turn you into an automatic shill for the CCP or anything along those lines.

            You criticize me for not reading all of your posts, but you are rather the one lacking reading comprehension. You’ve ignored my points and decided to label me a Wumao or idiot with yellow fever either because you can’t understand the meaning of what I wrote, or you don’t like to be criticized for pulling out the Tiananmen card on every little thing.

            I thought you might be more reasonable, but after reading your other comments it seems you’re almost on the verge of becoming a conspiracy theorist who throws around ad hominem.

      • Dr Sun

        and lets not forget all those ordinary factory workers, they received much longer sentences than the student leaders.

    • Aaron Wytze

      Believe me, they’re really not talking about Tiananmen over here in Taiwan either.

    • loki

      agree, why not talk about google being block tiananamen crackdown tamkman etc.. no .. not china Smack…. a fucking roach in some girl room in fucking taiwan… Taiwan is not even China….what is this crap .. its becoming very sad…

  • Guest

    how ridiculous. A cockroach panicking over a cockroach?

  • ex-expat

    I hate cockroaches. One of the only things I liked about Beijing was that I rarely saw them. Despite all you hear about cockroaches being able to survive anything, even they had a hard time in that environmental disaster of a city.

    • Mighty曹

      Beijing air is too polluted even for cockroaches?

      • ex-expat

        The pollution is pretty bad, though I doubt that it is actually the reason why I saw them so infrequently (maybe once in 4 years?). Beijing has little in terms of any kind of wildlife whatsoever.

        • Mighty曹

          Nah… cockroaches can survive radiation. If there’s ever a global thermonuclear war they will be the only survivors on earth. Beijing pollution is harmless to them.

          • ex-expat

            Right. Like I said, I doubt it’s the reason. Though I would really like to know why I never saw them or any other insects.

          • Mighty曹

            It’s a good sign that you’re super clean. :D

    • Teacher in China

      You weren’t looking hard enough. I saw a lot of them, especially the first few months of the school I was working in. I especially remember one running across my desk in the office while I was marking homework….

    • ClausRasmussen

      In one month in Beijing I counted 2 (two) birds, and I only once saw a little swarm of small insects.

      • Zappa Frank

        all of the sudden I realize that the only animals I’ve seen so far in shanghai are domestic pet or on going food..

    • Warren Lauzon

      Even cockroaches can only take so much pollution and heavy metals.

  • Irvin

    If she was at my school, she’ll be in hell for the rest of her time in college, people will literally throw boxes of cockroaches in her room or put it in her bag when she’s not looking.

  • Mighty曹

    What the???

  • JayJay

    Slow news day due to Tiananmen censor period…

  • Markus Peg

    Wasting police time is an offense, as a more important issue might have needed the those police at the same time. Education about phoning the police should go out on TV ads and penalties should be given to those that abuse this by phone asking stupid questions like asking for directions… The same thing happens around the world. For example in the USA on Christmas day when people get a new phone without a simcard they test it by calling the 911 the only number that works without a simcard… WTF… In the UK an old lady was lost so she phoned the police.. granted she is not 100% at fault as shes old and lost her marbles but its a waste of police time and not acceptable.

    If i were being attacked and the police had no one to send because they were investigating an apartment with cockroaches in, id be pissed off or dead..

    • vonskippy

      Way to overreact there Markus. Police sit around with their thumbs up their asses 95% of the time, a little real “service” no matter how trivial is better then nothing.

      • Markus Peg

        Depends what country/city and station you are talking about.
        But I have to disagree, many police work really hard and overtime.
        I’m not sure about Taiwan though…

      • FYIADragoon

        Maybe in flyover states/cities, but in real cities of some degree of significance, I can tell you that’s bullshit.

    • Warren Lauzon

      I don’t agree. Police have slack time and periods when nothing is happening, and this was a chance to meet a pretty girl as a rescuer. If nothing else I think it was good PR, just because they actually spent the time to find the bug.

  • WFH

    hahahaha…..funny how the mainlanders are declaring a moral victory over Taiwan based on silliness from a 20 yr old girl..

    • Insomnicide

      None of them mentioned anything about her being Taiwanese.

    • Warren Lauzon

      Maybe it is because the mainland is so used to cockroaches – many of them CCP members…

  • Chris

    Hey, where did my gmail go?

    • moop

      you’ll get it back sometime between tomorrow and the 8th

  • At least they didn’t squash it – everyone knows that releases the baby cockroaches – good job men!

  • Science Patrol

    We have Palmetto Bugs here. Basically flying cockroaches. A lot like mini daikaiju. Science Patrol is used to it. No need for the police. Just call Science Patrol.

  • rollin wit 9’s

    I remember asking several people if they knew what ‘liu.si’ or 6.4 meant and they had no idea, even after my full explanation. The BJ Gov. in this case is doing a swell-tastic job of keeping this out of schools and out of the media. But brighter lads like me self just stumble on over to South China Morning Posts scmp.com where one can get just a taste of what the BJ Gov doesn’t want you to read.
    Sort yourselves out lads, no point arguing amongst each other.

  • Arendelle

    “In the Heavenly Kingdom, this sort of thing is not handled by the police, but by firefighters!”

    I’m afraid this is what actually is happening in Korea.
    A firefighter was killed when rescuing a cat 3 years ago. But there was contorversy over whether to accept his eath on line of duty because he did not died after rescuing people. It took 3 years to have his sacrifice recognized and the officer was finally burried on the national Meomorial Board.

    News about frank calls or calls for ridiculous mishaps to firefighters are occationally seen on the internet and it always irritates me. The post is about story in Taiwan, but it reminds me of the reality of my country. Firefighters in Korea works 12 hours a day but their treatment is miserable. While 7 are killed and 320 are injured every year, their proficient pay is only about $50 a month. We should show respect those who risk their lives for our safety- policemen, firefighters, soldiers or whoever they are.

  • maybeabanana

    American parallel: “911 call: Subway ‘gave me marinara sauce instead of pizza sauce”-http://www.wbtv.com/story/25507827/911-call-subway-gave-me-marinara-sauce-instead-of-pizza-sauce

    Kids nowadays, don’t know the difference between real danger and illusion of danger and mostly growing up into social tards.

    • Mighty曹

      You’re an expert in ‘illusion’ as you live in one.

      • maybeabanana

        Not as much as you. I know what I am.. but I don’t think you know what you are. Love thy horse blinders. I have pretty much pegged you being a californian sheeple, plus shitty Chinese qualities. Go away and keep sucking on Feinstein, you shill.

        • Mighty曹

          LMAO@”I know what I am.. but I don’t think you know what you are.” What irony! Coming from a ‘person’ who goes by ‘maybe a banana’. Obviously you’re not sure WTF you are. As for qualities, Chinese or otherwise, a pic of a pussy cat to represent you is far shittier than someone with a cap of the football team he loves.
          Btw, has the police been giving you a hard time for truancy? Stay in school, fool.

  • Warren Lauzon

    This is actually hilarious, but also perhaps socially informative. The fact that in Taiwan household roaches are so rare that you have to call the police probably made a few people on the mainland wonder why Taiwan has it so good :D
    BTW, it was not really a cockroach, it was what is called in the US a “Palm Bug”, related and looks like one, but only lives outdoors.

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