Guangzhou Train Station Knife Attack, Chinese Reactions

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From Sina:

4 Young Men Wearing White Hats Attack People with Knives at Guangzhou Railway Station

According to @广州日报 [Guangzhou Daily] information, at around 11am on May 6th, two young men with knives attacked people in the plaza in front of the Guangzhou Railway Station post office, injuring two men and two women who were exiting the station, with one of the being injured on their neck. Eyewitnesses say police shot one of the perpetrators upon arriving on the scene, and the other has already fled. According to other witnesses, there were more than two people who were attacking people with knives at the Guangzhou Railway Station plaza, that there were 4 young people all wearing little white hats.

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Medical personnel at the scene of the incident giving medical treatment to the injured.

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May 6t, Guangzhou, at present 4 wounded have been sent to the Guangzhou Military District General Hospital, the condition of their injuries still being determined.

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One of the injured at the scene of the incident.

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According to information from Guangzhou police officials, at around 11:30am, there were people with knives injuring passing train passengers at the Guangzhou Railway Station plaza. Police opened fire after verbal warnings were ignored, shooting and subduing one of the male suspects holding a knife. Preliminarily, the incident has resulted in six injured, whom have all been taken to hospitals for treatment. At present, police are investigating.

From NetEase:

Man Attacks People with Knife at Guangzhou Railway Station, 6 Injured

Around 11am on 2014 May 6, the plaza at the Guangzhou Railway Station saw men with knives attacking passing train passengers. Police opened fire and hit one of the suspects. At present, the incident has caused 6 injuries. Bloodstains and bloody garments are on the ground at the scene, and police have already sealed off the area. The incident occurred just as the Kunming to Guangzhou K366 train arrived at the station. Multiple eyewitnesses say the passengers were exiting the station at the time when young men wearing white shirts, white pants, and white hats carrying knives about half a meter long suddenly began hacking at people, wounding multiple passengers.

Comments from NetEase:

霞子qqq2025876282 [网易福建省泉州市网友]:

The most abominable and shameless people in this world are those who treat other people’s lives with contempt.

驴熊 [网易广东省广州市网友]:

Why attack strangers?!! Execute them!

网易河南省平顶山市手机网友 ip:61.158.*.*:

Those who are hurt are always the ordinary common people. Life is hard for everyone, all out there working, so why hurt other people like this?

网易浙江省丽水市手机网友 ip:123.148.*.*:

Every Chinese person should not ignore this kind of violence, because the next victim may be you.

网易吉林省长春市手机网友 ip:175.19.*.*:

A crime of endangering national security.

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#Guagzhou Railway Station Knife Attack# is also currently a rising hashtag on China’s leading microblogging social network Sina Weibo. Two microblog posts by CCTV News and Sina Guangdong about the incident have current broke into the Top 10 of the day.

Comments from Sina Weibo:

有见地的高德威:

In this strange country, it’s a good idea to practice running.

羽召云:

In Guangzhou, this can be considered minor. Guangzhou still has over 500k black people who haven’t rioted [collectively cause trouble]. If they do, the result is unbearable to imagine.

caoyy银:

Fuck, if you had any worth, you’d go hack and kill some corrupt government officials, and not hurt innocent city residents. This kind of person must have nine generations of their family exterminated after they are caught in order for it to be an effective warning/deterrent to others!

鄭楚泯:

Xinjiang people [Uighurs] are Xinjiang people, terrorists are terrorists, the two have no relationship. Do some of the people comment have mental problems, retarded bastards! I truly don’t want to criticize people, but do you “people” have a brain at all? Has water entered [your brains, meaning is one mentally damaged]?

艾伦得龙:

Replying to @大红围脖的熊猫: The people of Xinjiang welcome you to come to Xinjiang, to learn more about Xinjiang. If you want to destroy Xinjiang, please first come to Xinjiang before talking. Xinjiang people [Uighurs] are also Chinese people. Everyone please be respectful of Xinjiang!

没钱没品没地位:

Fuck, if you have a grievance, go hack corrupt officials, as opposed to bullying unarmed and defenseless passerbys!

vicious刘洋:

Replying to @Summer-阿锋: Xinjiang people are Xinjiang people, terrorists are terrorists. Please be careful with your words/speech.

一棵修行的树:

The next time a knife attack on innocent crowds happens, everyone regardless of who they are should immediately take matters into their own hand on the spot, and the people who kill the criminals should not be criminally punished.

小姐要拍拖吗:

I’m a Xinjiang person, but I am not a thug. Xinjiang people are just like you, with the difference only being that we love life even more.

释怀的快乐:

Looking at Weibo, it feels like our country is plagued with misfortune, and it is very upsetting. Forget it, I’ll just watch Xinwen Lianbo at night and will be reminded of how prosperous and peaceful the country is. This laughable country, a country enshrouded by the system. We all are nothing but lowly exploited people.

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  • Jahar

    This is getting out of control.

  • “little white hats”

    I know that a Muslim reference, but until disproven with hard, factual evidence, I’m going to think of the all attackers as nurses.

    • don mario

      i’m going to say they were jewish. with those little hats the size of saucers that they wear!

    • Dr Sun

      I’ll buy into the “nurses did it theory” its a form of income generation for the hospital. Well that is until a better theory and some proof emerges,

    • Jahar

      popes?

    • niggaplz
      • hess

        Is the guy with the bat/stick an attacker as well?

      • David

        looks like a fry cook

    • mr.wiener

      …Or working in the clean rooms in a computer chip making factory.

      Unfortunately the dressed in white thing is pointing at a muslim connection.
      I shouldn’t be engaging in groundless speculation , but as someone pointed out the other day, that is what the internet is for.
      Dressing in clean white garments could indicate they have cleansed themselves and are ready for martyrdom: Source: I read it in a Tom Clancy book once [pathetic I know].

      • Dr Sun

        from the photo he looked like a fast food chef, word on the street (wechat) is he was of mixed race (japanese/latino, illegal, a baptist and holding a Dutch passport.
        personally I think the Dutch part is bogus.

        • whuddyasack

          He just looked Uyghur to me. The half meter long knives are a dead giveaway. Due to cultural reasons, Uyghurs are among the only groups allowed to keep these weapons with them. So much for cultural repression and genocide.

    • loki

      haha…….. omg I found them…..

    • lonetrey / Dan

      I won’t lie, i thought of nurses too initially

  • Germandude

    In Guangzhou, this can be considered minor. Guangzhou still has over 500k black people who haven’t rioted [collectively cause trouble]. If they do, the result is unbearable to imagine.

    WOW, what a retard.

    • don mario

      that one took the cake! are black people famous for rioting? what am i missing here? lol

      • Brian227

        The Africans in Guangzhou are quite notorious for all sorts of mischief. They’ve rioted before, the time one chap fell from an upper floor while trying to escape a police visa check springs to mind. So yes, they are famous in China for rioting -amongst a host of other unpleasantnesses.

        • Zappa Frank

          chinese do the same in other countries and are by far more than africans in guanzhou in countries by far smaller than a chinese province.

          • Brian227

            Really. Your evidence of this?

          • Zappa Frank

            of course just type “chinese riot milan” or something like illegal chinese market italy, illiegal chinese immigrants, chinese factories , chinese prostitute and so on (usually in Prato) for illegal activites

            http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/apr/13/italy.tomkington

          • Brian227

            That’s it? One incident from 2007 involving 300 out of 13,000 Milanese Chinese? Good grief.

          • hess

            300 out of 13,000 chinese rioting in milan = nothing, 200 out of 20,000 africans rioting in guangzhou = horrible?

          • Zappa Frank

            300 is said by that article, according to italians were more…if you can read italian i can link it. anyway, was not so irrelevant if even wen ji bao at that time weighted it. on the other side, tell me about the african riots, were more relevant? i doubt. And we did not have any “incident” with dead chinese like happened for africans in gz

            at the end of the game, do chinese do riots in other countries?… yes they did

          • Brian227

            300 said by the article when it was quoting the Milanese police report of the incident. You claimed that it was routine for Chinese to behave in other countries as the GZ African community have and I asked you to provide evidence. So far you’ve come up with a single incident from 7 years ago. It’s not exactly convincing.

          • Zappa Frank

            did you produce any evidence that africans in GZ use to riot more often?
            Except for riots what is the misbehave of africans in GZ, i have tons of material about the bad behavior of chinese in italy, of course mostly is in italian..
            But if you prefer to believe that africans are bad, while chinse abroad are good mannered and respectful ok, it doesn’t bother me.

          • Brian227

            This kicked off because I explained in response to another’s post ” are black people famous for rioting? what am i missing here?” that yes Africans in China are famous for rioting and other mischiefs – because that’s what the perception is there. You chose to leap in with both feet flinging around claims that “chinese do the same in other countries” and then failed to support that with evidence when challenged.

            You also failed to spot that it’s entirely irrelevant to the point that this is how Africans in China are perceived.

          • Zappa Frank

            Again you like to bal bla, but where is your example of riot, waiting here.. where is example of mschiefs? Nothing, just pneumatic void.

            I’ve linked an article that is by far more than what you did. I liked an article with actually real chinese riots. I did not talk for “perception”, but real things.. so the one who failed is you. You want some other articles about mischiefs? i have plenty of this.. prostitution, black market, illegal immigration, drugs, murders, illegal work and all things related, tax evasion, and so on.. now, do i have to ask again? are africans in gz worse than this? i doubt, and i think we know since we have both, chinese and africans here.

            look here

            http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/08/world/europe/deadly-factory-fire-bares-racial-tensions-in-italy.html?_r=0

            http://www.thedailybeast.com/witw/articles/2013/08/20/chinese-workers-trafficked-into-italy-s-garment-factories.html

            what you cannot find in english are articles when chinese pee on streets, when their prostitute’s advertisment invate the towns, when they badly behave, fight with people, evade tax again, use no igene in their restaurant, put soy to get dry on the street, fish to dry on balconies and so on..

            Now i’m waiting to see your articles about africans if they do exist.

          • Brian227

            Great. Now can you post the bit where I said anything about Chinese people being saints? My response was solely about the Chinese perception of Africans and I’ve already given examples to show why they feel that way.

            If you dislike Chinese so much, why bother posting here?

          • Zappa Frank

            you talked about the perception of africans in GZ, without any articles, i just replyed that chinese are no better than what you think of africans, and i posted articles and numbers (something you’ve never done)… my point is simply that there is nothing like “racial traits” or culture customes and that all immigrants are more or less in the same situation … you obvioulsy understood this as an attack on chinese, but that’s just because you have no arguments and than play that card..

          • Brian227

            You have no way of knowing what I think of Africans, clownshoes. For all you know, I could even be one.

            If you’d read through the thread instead of pouncing on my post with a triumphant cry of “RACIST!” you’d see that I speculated there might be a different perception of Africans if the majority Chinese exposure had been to Ghanaians or Kenyans rather than Nigerians.

            I chose those two as I’ve had no small exposure to those countries and gained a good impression of them while my experience of Nigeria leaves me of the opinion that the bad reputation they’d gained in China might not be totally unfounded. National traits are not racial ones and Nigeria is a perennial source of troublemakers throughout Europe as well.

          • Zappa Frank

            Yes but I’m still waiting the articles about Africans riots.. Does it exist?

          • Brian227

            Let me Google that for you. Oh yeah, it does. On this very site, no less. http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/stories/protest-following-foreigners-sudden-death-in-police-custody.html

            And since I’m in a generous mood, here’s a Twofer – a separate riot involving our old pals the Nigerians again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_YBLrY4B4I

            Now do you care to apologise for calling me a racist or are you just going to slink off with your tail between your legs?

          • TAKE5

            Two white guys having a beef over Africans and Chinese? Who the Fuck are you? Shut the fuck up!.. Noone gives a shit what your pasty white ass thinks of Africans or Chinese. Go get a sun tan and shut the fuck up man! Relax an have a beer dude.

          • Zappa Frank

            Apparently you give a shit since you read and comment here. However as for me you can leave in mass my country and than I’ll not give a fuck about what you guys do in yours.. Your huge black ass or flat yellow ass would be more comfortable too in the jungle.
            Ps you even have problem in comprehension if you think Brian is white..

          • TAKE5

            Sorry Frank, I don’t know what your country is but you and I both know if you have a non white living there you are stuck. They are not going anywhere. Poor little baby Frank, your stuck. May an African waiter serve you and an Asian cook your food.

          • Zappa Frank

            Please…pathetic. You did not even understand what we were talking about and you keep on saying your nonsense… An asian cook my food? Hahaha thanks god no
            Yeah ok black powa, yo, yo,. Another afroamerican that feel entitled to talk about Africans? I may probably know about them more than you.

          • Who the Fuck are you? Shut the fuck up!.. Noone gives a shit what your ass––regardless of its degree of pastiness or color––thinks of Zappa Frank and Brian227, or anyone else having a conversation on chinasmack. Go get a sun tan (or not, considering melanoma) and shut the fuck up man! Relax an have a beer dude.

            Translation: Seriously, who the hell are you to tell two people having a discussion that doesn’t even involve you to shut up? If you don’t like comments you can downvote or rebut them, but you don’t bitch at them to stop talking like some wannabe thought police. If you can’t handle it, press the “x” button at the top right or left of your browser.

          • TAKE5

            Apparently you give a shit about what I think, follow your own advice Matt.

          • I did follow my own advice. I rebutted your comment instead of earnestly telling you to shut the fuck up (aside from what I was facetiously mocking you).

          • TAKE5

            Matt, I appreciate what your saying, however there are no rules about anything here. We can comment as we like. If I want to comment or make a statement on the silliness of two White guys once again beating up on Chinese/Africans/Blacks as sooo often is the case on this web site, then I will.

          • Very well. Just note that Zappa Frank could have said this:

            “I appreciate what your saying, however there are no rules about anything here. We can comment as we like. If I want to comment or make a statement on ____ then I will.”

            I didn’t notice “two White guys once again beating up on Chinese/Africans/Blacks”. I’m pretty sure Brian227 was defending Chinese:

            If you dislike Chinese so much, why bother posting here?

            …and Zappa Frank was defending Africans:

            did you produce any evidence that africans in GZ use to riot more often? How many riots? at least i came out with an episode and you? Not considering that police in italy treated chinese by far better than how chiese police treated africans. it doesn’t take much, just do not kill. Except for riots what is the misbehave of africans in GZ? i have tons of material about the bad behavior of chinese in italy, of course mostly is in italian..But if you prefer to believe that africans are bad, while chinese abroad are good mannered and respectful ok, it doesn’t bother me.

            …but hey, don’t let facts get in the way of your paranoid victim complex.

          • TAKE5

            Frank is a defender of Africans now? Really Matt?..hahaha

          • fabulous

            Dear TAKE5. In case you weren’t sure who was winning this argument; Matt is.

          • wnsk

            What are you talking about? There is no argument. It’s a comedy segment and TAKE5 is bringing down the house.

          • You’re either illiterate or playing stupid. Those comments are clearly defending Africans by pointing out that African behavior in Guangzhou is not that bad and that Chinese police mistreat Africans. You attacked a guy that was LITERALLY defending you. Way to go, Einstein.

            And that comment was made 3 days ago, not “now”.

          • Zappa Frank

            are you African at least?

          • Zappa Frank

            You simply just make evident your silliness… You are just like Pavlov’s dog, barking when read African without even understanding what we were saying.. Now please tell me at least that you are actually African and not ‘Afro American’… But I doubt because they are not so boring with a strong inferiority complex like you seem to have

          • Kai

            Older readers of cS will have gotten an idea of how the African community is often seen in Guangzhou where they have a sizable and visible population:

            http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/pictures/africans-in-guangzhou-opportunities-discrimination.html

            http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/stories/protest-following-foreigners-sudden-death-in-police-custody.html

            They’re basically seen as negatively as Chinese communities are in other countries, like Italy. You’re familiar with at least one of these reports when you alluded to it in this comment of yours.

            I think your response to what Brian said is similar to when someone says something about Chinese people and a Chinese person points to something similar with another nationality. Those people regularly are accused of deflection.

            I don’t think Brian’s initial response to don mario suggests he thinks there is a “racial trait” or “cultural custom” involved. don mario wasn’t aware of why Chinese people have this perception of Africans in Guangzhou and Brian helpfully explained, referencing things that were widely reported on the Chinese internet and media a few years ago.

            Your initial response to Brian sounded more like a “but Chinese are the same!” retort than “all immigrants are more or less in the same situation.” The second is a good, hard truth that I think a lot of commenters forget here, and you reliably make such good, fair comments. But I hope you can understand how your initial response can look like you’re deflecting and attacking the Chinese the moment Brian simply tried explaining why Africans are seen the way they are in Guangzhou.

            That said, I don’t think it was wise for Brian to challenge you to provide proof of Chinese rioting in Italy. If you didn’t know about African’s rioting in Guangzhou, then you could challenge Brian to provide proof, but like I said above, it seems like you do know of what Brian is talking about. If so, you’re challenging him to provide evidence not because you need it but just because you just want him to do it. Personally, I think he should’ve obliged, even if he suspects your challenge isn’t genuine, but it’s not a very honest way for you to argue either.

            But if you prefer to believe that africans are bad, while chinese abroad are good mannered and respectful ok, it doesn’t bother me.

            I don’t think Brian said anything like this. Of course, I understand why people might interpret him this way. For example, when Westerners criticize Chinese, a lot of Chinese people feel those Westerners fail to see the problems among their own people. It’s a common defensive reaction. Brian explained why Chinese see Africans in Guangzhou one way, and you defensively interpreted him as attacking Africans or thinking immigrant Chinese communities aren’t seen as similarly negatively. You said Chinese are the same in Italy and Brian defensively demanded proof that Chinese riot or engage in the same “mischief” to the same degree or frequency as Africans in Guangzhou, thinking you dislike Chinese people “so much”.

            Both of you were unfair to each other, reading too much into what each other said.

            The fact of the matter is that the African immigrant community in Guangzhou is more or less as guilty of AND unfairly stereotyped with the criticisms commonly held by their host community AS the Chinese immigrant community in Italy is. The fact of the matter is also that what Brian said is well-documented in both Chinese media and English-language media. Just do a search for “Africans in Guangzhou” or something. Plenty of English articles discussing their situation, including this helpful Wikipedia entry:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africans_in_Guangzhou

            you talked about the perception of africans in GZ, without any articles, i just replyed that chinese are no better than what you think of africans,

            I think that’s unfair. Brian replied with what he KNOWS about Africans in Guangzhou, not what he “thinks”. Maybe he wrongly assumed others would also know of what he’s talking about. If your first reply to him was to ask him for more information about what he’s saying, maybe he would’ve given it to you. Instead, your first comment seemed more like wanting to prove Chinese are the same or worse. So he demanded that you prove it. Do you see how the conversation got out of control? You guys both assumed each other to be attacking, and you seemed to demand proof for things you already know about.

            @Brian227:disqus

          • Zappa Frank

            well ok I may have read too much in brian’s post. Anyway I just want to point out that something like riots and misbehave are not uncommon among immigrants, anywhere and regardless who is the immigrant. usually the request from both sides, hosts and immigrants are too high.

          • Kai

            Yeah, I agree with that thought of yours completely.

          • whuddyasack

            Ah ha Frankie, that got me laughing. “You just like to blah blah”, very good. Not going to get into whether Africans in GZ are worse than Chinese in Italy, all I can say is Africans are known to riot for a reason and all things being equal, Chinese definitely riot less than everyone else… except other East Asians. I honestly think Italy should close all borders from Chinese immigration/ trafficking and deport those illegal immigrants. On a side note, pretty disgusted with the way Portugal and Greece are trying to attract Chinese immigrants, tourists and investors. Most sane people wouldn’t immigrate to either, except Muslims and Blacks.

          • Angry_African_man

            And by that you mean Muslims and Blacks are insane?
            WTF is wrong with you people?

          • whuddyasack

            Nope, actually they are perfectly sane. All I mean is that Muslims and Blacks come from desperate, impoverished conditions, i.e. unrests, civil wars, extreme poverty, famine, government oppression, etc. Portugal and Greece are currently not very attractive and economically doing horrendously; crime/violence/corruption has become rampant. As such it wouldn’t make sense for “wealthy” Chinese to live there. But for many MENAs and Africans, those conditions are still better than what they face back home. Hope that clears things up.

          • Angry_African_man

            You seem to not know what you are talking about, you say

            “Muslims and Blacks come from desperate, impoverished conditions, i.e. unrests, civil wars, extreme poverty, famine, government oppression, etc.”

            Put Chinese in place of Muslims and Blacks in that sentence and you will find that it holds true, actually even when I am typing this there are buttloads of Chinese going to Portugal and Greece and also in Africa and Arab world(No shit!), and that’s the reason why you said “wealthy” Chinese as if there are no wealthy Blacks and Muslims, do you know that there are also “wealthy” Muslims and Blacks too? Try to google Aliko Dangote and may be the dust in your eyes will be cleansed(But I like to believe either you are too stupid to accept the fact of life or you are just sleep walking through life, in that case you are a walking corpse already and I am wasting my time trying to make you understand some common sense), there are billionaires in Africa too, and there are many many African countries which don’t fall into this category “All I mean is that Muslims and Blacks come from desperate, impoverished conditions, i.e. unrests, civil wars, extreme poverty, famine, government oppression, etc.”.

            You have a very weird biased opinion, which is just a not-by-fact but the way you feel/want it to be. Unfortunately, simpleton, the world does not revolve the way you want it to be, your mindset is like that of a 10 yrs old kid, because when I was 10 yrs old I also used to think that all all East Asia is China, Chinese are so poor and they can’t afford food that’s why Congo helped them with food during the 1980s, I used to think all Chinese just spend their days fighting kung-fu with anyone for no reason. A friend of mine told me to forget about good clothes, beer, and good food when I was prepping to come to China, he said in China everyone wears red guard uniforms, if you don’t then you will be shot to death, and you will eat snakes and frogs because they have shortage of food need I say more?

          • Surfeit

            Muslims and Blacks come from desperate, impoverished conditions HAHAHAHAHAHA! London ain’t that bad!

          • whuddyasack

            It’s great actually, but what I meant by Muslims and Blacks were people from Somalia, Nigeria, Iraq and Afghanistan.

          • Zappa Frank

            Ah yes the famous “well known” without evidences.. In other words prejudices..

          • whuddyasack

            I think we all know about the GZ and Nanjing riots. Anyways, official statistics:

            1. Over 50% rioters are black, below 30% are white;
            2. Black people are over 10 times more likely to participate in riots than whites;

            http://humstats.blogspot.com.au/2011/08/uk-riots-ethnicity-statistics.html

            I’d just like to say that based on anecdotal evidence from friends (all races) and what I see on the news, in Canada/Australia at least, most petty street troublemakers, assault offenders and muggers are Caucasian so it might be a case of under-reporting and cherry-picking data.

            I don’t think it actually is prejudice to accept the fact that statistically Blacks are more likely to riot. What we need is understanding and sympathy. We need to study why Blacks are so prone to riot and work at ways to help them solve their issues with compassion, not judgment.

          • hess

            Cant say ive heard of chinese people rioting abroad though

          • noodles76

            When living situations improve exponentially……what is there to riot about? Too much choice? Too much freedom? A (relatively) fair judicial system? Human rights? Less pollution? Better manners? Better education? The ability to have as many children as your heart desires?

            Fuck it ya’ll…let’s RIOT!!!! Freedom and choice are bullshit!! Rage against the machine my brothers!!!

          • Zappa Frank

            the riot was about the fact that police did not allow them to do illegal things..

          • noodles76

            What the fuck?

            I need to hear more…type fast my friend

          • Zappa Frank

            read my post below..
            they where about to have another riot last year because they were complaining about so many police’s contols in their factories (that were mostly illegals).. but that did not turn out also because later 7 of them died in one of those factories.. funny how than they complained about the absence of controls..

          • noodles76

            Fucking awesome!!!! But….there was no riot? So only half awesome. Points deducted for faking riotous intentions.

          • Zappa Frank

            the ‘riot’ happened in milan on 2007, via paolo sarpi, it was because a chinese woman had arguments with police due to her illegal parking and unloading during non-working hours and therfore has been fined.(you know, like in china, no rules) It escaleted fast and involved diplomacy, even wen ji bao talked about it…
            there are many critical situation like that ready to explode, because, talking about how to treat hosts, chinese are not the best example..

            ps of course, in a riot is never one-side fault, for sure police was not sensitive on the racial issue as in italy we’ve never faced this problem, but it goes for china too… it is just to say that is strange to complian about blacks in GZ while chinese abroad are not always better than them..

        • noodles76

          One incident in one locale made Africans famous? Impressive.

          • Brian227

            One incident was taken as representative of how certain Africans treat their hosts. That was clear from what I wrote but maybe not from what you chose to read.

          • noodles76

            Actually, that’s not what you wrote. If you are taking one incident to be representative of an entire continent worth of people then I have a difficult time following you. If however, there is a clear pattern of behavior….then go ahead and point to it. Pointing to one incident….a questionable incident at that…..does not answer anything.

          • Brian227

            Is this the hard of thinking section? What part of “this is how Africans are perceived in China and why” equates to “this is how I believe all Africans behave”?

      • Honibaz

        No, it’s just that the majority of Chinese people (not only mainland Chinese) look down on Blacks.

        • loki

          lots of people look down on blacks, in every country. (yes I said “every”) You have to be at least a little curious as to why. I have my own thoughts about it. But, could it be as a whole they usually make a bad name for themselves by doing some pretty messed up stuff. I’m just saying…..

          • Germandude

            You have to be at least a little curious as to why. I have my own thoughts about it. But, could it be as a whole they usually make a bad name for themselves by doing some pretty messed up stuff.

            Keeping in mind your comments in the past and the general image you are creating through your comments, I think it’s fair to say that everybody with a brain knows what your “own thoughts about it” are.

            And that’s absolutely fine by me. Everybody has the right to show what kind of simple-minded low-life he is. Just ask Francisco De Vitoria.

          • Angry_African_man

            Well, I see you are making a very good name for yourself here. Just goes to show how childish and shallow you are. Who are you to rule out that “lots of people look down on blacks, in every country. ”
            And you insist that you said “every”, at first I thought you were on drugs, but when you insisted and typed correctly, I had to rule out that you are one of those people who never got education but were privileged to be born among the “whites”(What’s their name again? I think they call them white trash or something, never mind)

            Does it make you happy to say that? I think it does, because you are one of them and you wish that.

            But keep dreaming man, because one day you are gonna wake up and see that all that Martin Luther King jr. said (on august 1963) is …

            Oh and may be at that time someone will ask you to tell them about your dream “Tell them about the dream, Loki!”

        • Angry_African_man

          The opposite of your sentence is also TRUE.

    • Jahar

      Also, that number is horribly innacurate. There are only about 600k foriengers in all of china.

      • ex-expat

        Correct. The number is closer to 10,000, according to Wikipedia.

        • noodles76

          I don’t pretend to know which numbers are correct but…I do have to wonder how they (not only blacks) are being counted. Z visa? Spousal? X(student) visa?

          • hess

            10k include everyone with a visa valid for at least 6months, its about 20-30k if you include short term visitors, still a tiny % of guangzhous population..

          • noodles76

            So where is this fear coming from? I’m not baiting you, I am just curious.

          • hess

            Racism. I gotta say i think its really amusing the times ive heard chinese people complaining about there being too many foreigners in china.. Even tiny ass sweden got more “foreigners” (immigrants) than huge ass china

          • noodles76

            but from what I have heard, there is a substantial population of foreigners that do not have valid visas. Is this just racism as well or just misinformation.

            I’m referring to the African population in particular.

            EDIT: forget it all, this is horribly off topic.

          • hess

            Not having a valid visa = risk of riots? Also, if there were a 1.0 ratio between africans on a valid visa and those without, thats still just 60k, a tiny,tiny portion of the guanzhou population

          • noodles76

            fair enough. I’m not try8ng to make a correlation between expired or invalid visas and potential rioting. This is not the first time I have heard of Chinese folks expressing fear and/or loathing towards the African population in GZ. If it is such a minute fraction of the population I have to wonder why these feelings seem to exist more strongly in GZ than in other cities where they also account for a minute fraction of the population.

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            we have fear of any foreign existance in my great motherland. 56 culture and 1 civilization only for china!

          • noodles76

            Where is this culture you speak of? Did it also relocate to Taiwan?

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            6000 of history buddy! something you don’t have and will never understand of chinese culture unles you are chinese which is unlikely!

          • Zappa Frank

            6000 and mostly invented

          • Dr Sun

            6000 years now ? last month it was 5000, last year 4000, what calander are you using ?

          • Stefan

            The length of Chinese history is correlated to the size of the Chinese economy. If the Chinese economy grows the history of China increases. So next year it’s 7000 years.

          • Boris

            First time I see you joking and taking a poke at China. Usually it is defend China to the hilt!

          • Gordon Gogodancer

            hehe good one.

          • ScottLoar

            And the number increases: Some Chinese archaeologists claim a pottery jar purporting to have the image of two flying phoenix is 7,400 years old; see

            http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200403/26/eng20040326_138617.shtml

            I have a strong interest in Chinese ceramics and have yet to see pictures of this pottery, nor proof of the dating to 7,400 years which exactitude would seem to be beyond any known test.

          • Commander Jameson

            I’ve seen this number appear more than once lately, it seems to be officially sanctioned by the relevant organs.

          • loki

            that rate is about right.. 1000 years is about equal to 1-2 years…

          • Frank

            so this would make america less than 2 seconds old.. right?

          • Yes!

            2,700 yrs to be more exact.

          • anon101

            oh, ireland has 9,000 years of history, America has 500 years of history, Both are more advanced than the heavenly kingdom.
            Also, while the heavenly kingdom of a billion people were taken over by 100,000 japanese troops, allied countries managed to kill over a million enemy soldiers and they had less than 1 billion people, much less. Then America (you know, that 500 year old country) went and saved the heavenly kingdoms ass by nuking Japan.

          • Dr Sun

            you need to read history, the USA didn’t nuke Japan to save China, they nuked it to prevent 100,000’s of U.S marines and soldiers,dying on the beaches on mainland Japan.

          • anon101

            i didnt indicate the us nuked japan to save china, i indicated that nuked japan and saved china.
            your very touchy, every comment i post you pull apart. perhpas go and read koreabang if you dont want to read people putting down china,

          • Alex Dương

            If that photo is of you and your kid, it’s funny (sad?) that you’re still acting like a 14-year-old on 4chan when you appear to be in your thirties.

          • anon101

            bahaha, i see, you going for personal attacks now (nothing in that but a personal attack, no other comment or question or statement) strangely enough thats what 14 year olds do. some people only have a voice when they hide behind a mask, some people show their face because they have opinions and dont care if people know they have opinions. I very much enjoy using photos or pictures in my text and on fb, its just better than pages of text.

            now for the comment below (get them both done at once)
            I suspect by ‘everyone’ you mean you.

            Have you ever seen a fight in china? have you ever notice the fights only break out when its 10 against 1 or 2, unless of course its 10 men against women, in which case they brave men will take on 3 or 4 women.
            now imagine it on a bigger scale, chinese peoples morality is to run the fuck away unless you are clearly going to win.

            god, i remember now why I left the country in the first place. not just the poisoned food, air, ground, water and crappy hospitality. but the people in general, very touchy, cant stand a westerner saying anything bad about china.

            heres one for china, the south china sea.. its only yours if you are retarded enough to think it should belong to you. massive problem is that most of your military missles are made in china, and you know what things that are made in china are like…. ” san, er, yi…” whooshhhh… 10 seconds later the missile falls apart and you have to go to japan to buy a quality one.

            oh, heres another picture ffor you.. this time you can see some building and plumbing work that is actually quality work. it wont leak, fall over, be finished in a really crappy way or anything of the sort. why? because we do quality work, we care about the job and we buy quality materials that wont fall apart a year from today (yeah they cost more but in the long run it works out better)

          • Alex Dương

            You know, if you want “personal attacks” to carry any weight, maybe…just maybe, you want to refrain from using them yourself? Or do you expect others to live by rules that you don’t hold yourself to? Anyway…

            …I will give you props for one thing, though: at least you actually left China. In that sense, you’re better than the other expats who stay in China but whine incessantly about how bad the country is. Looks like you value basic quality of life over being able to look down upon others; good for you!

            As far as “saying anything bad about China,” dude, you can say whatever you want. And if what you say is complete bullshit, hey, guess what? I can reply to your bullshit.

          • Guest

            thats how a cistern is supposed to go in, hidden away, clean, not like the way chinese bathrooms are always messy and in your face with crappy tiling, sealing, planning and normally plumbing.
            Now I know what your thinking.. ‘my god, even where they have a shit is better than anywhere in china’ dont worry, in a few thousand years your civilisation will advance to the equivalent of the Victorian era and society will undoubtedly work out that a red light means stop, jay walking is harmful to your health, if something is worth doing its worth doing right and selling your own wife for some easy cash is not the way to go.

          • Alex Dương

            Um, just so you know, I was born and raised in the United States. Unlike you, I didn’t have to leave a first-world country for a third-world country just so I wouldn’t starve to death. So, your condescension is rather amusing to me.

          • Dr Sun

            My guess is the vast majority of so called ex-pats on here that bitch and moan have never even really been to China, or if they did it was a quick vacation or at most 1 stint (semester) as a ESL teacher.. The ex-esl teachers are most likely bitter that they didn’t get any Chinese students to sleep with them.

          • Alex Dương

            Quite possible. As I said, this guy did the right thing by leaving China. He obviously hated it, so why stay? What I don’t get is is why he still feels the need to act like he’s better than the people he left given that he has already left. Is he that insecure? Was he that traumatized by his experience?

          • whuddyasack

            Personally, I’m not low or sad enough to keep visiting websites and posting vitriol on a country I hated. It’s actually not that hard to understand such a primitive, backward mentality. The reason he keeps “coming back” and projecting insecurity is he’s still bitter over some perceived slight to his feelings… awwww. That’s the thing I notice about White people, most sure can keep a grudge. I’d just ignore his puny “attempts” at provocation given how facts state the British were slaughtered in Singapore/Malaya and mowed down while running from a much smaller and under-equipped Japanese force. Anyway, even polite Japanese tire from the uncivilized. Like the typical gang-banging thug, that guy’d keep his mouth shut here and rightly so:
            http://www.japancrush.com/2014/stories/japan-eu-agreement-human-rights-clause-causes-controversy.html

            P.S. I don’t see any Westerner thanking the Chinese for, I don’t know, resisting the Japanese when they could’ve easily joined them resulting in a world where they won’t be here feeling offended but working on survival instead.

          • Frank

            you’re a fucking retard man. china is the origin of yellow slant. all of your fantasies come from china, sorry to burst your little bubble kid. without china, there is no korea, no japan, vietnam, mongolia – asia. the origins are clear to everyone, but you. when america is attacked in a few years, we’ll all see who comes to the “rescue”… and then what mr ‘me white man, me make fire, me special star man. fuck off.

          • Dr Sun

            As the americans say ” you can take the man out of the trailer park, but you cannot take the trailer park out of the man ” or as the brits say ” once a chav always a chav”.
            with a BA in something like social studies or business its almost impossible to find a job back home, add in “yellow fever”, a previous divorce or two, bankruptcy and substance abuse problems, a lot of esl teachers I would avoid like the plague.Having said that there are some dedicated ones that are not here for a easy life and/or attempting to screw all their students.
            They are the ones that dont bitch up China though.

          • whuddyasack

            Well, they should at least learn to be grateful then. It could have been worse, at least most Chinese are civil enough not to give some of the worst child/student abusers their just desserts. See below how less tolerant people deal with these vermin. Mighty laowai lol.

            IMO, ESLers and lecturers harrassing, raping, groping and picking on international students or Asians are the biggest cowards out there. The latter because they typically use their nationality for diplomatic immunity and flee back home; the former because they typically target lone female students who they know can’t fight back and lack relatives/friends to defend them.

            Now your guess is pretty much correct. Most “expats” aren’t really expats but bored, unhygienic, jobless trolls who’ve never left their basements and just want to bash on China/Chinese to feel “powerful”. Online, and behind a screen. They definitely are forever alone virgins, POS being the most visible one. He currently posts as “inferiority complexity”.

          • Frank

            again with the white man shit. no one, and I mean absolutely no one in this world wants to even know you as a passer by. you are exactly what you look like, a loser of life. bye bye 88

          • Frank

            now THIS explains everything. the fact that you actually believe america is a ‘first world country in 2014 is aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamazing. add to that you’re talking china shit? wow. get a life in salt lake with yer kin pal. SB.

          • Alex Dương

            So judging from your twenty-odd comments, you have issues with Swedes, Africans, and Americans, and I’d bet that list is far from complete. Well, I don’t think we have anything to discuss as you seem to have nothing to “contribute” except ignorance and hate.

            anon101 is an idiot; how ghetto do you have to be that your idea of “showing off” is taking a photo of incomplete indoor plumbing? But you’re no better than he is.

          • Dr Sun

            “Then America .. WENT and saved the heavenly kingdoms ass by nuking Japan.”

            If you want to try and read some history before you post you would have known that the Japanese army in China were pretty much in full retreat, demoralized, hanging on by their chin straps well before you “saved many marines”

            dont play silly semantic games,

          • Dr Sun

            If you cant handle reasoned debate, I suggest you take your own advice stay on Koreabang

          • Blue

            Actually, Japan had tried to surrender to the US a number of times. But they were rejected because the US insisted on the removal of Hirohito. The US bombed Japan completely unnecessarily, to send a warning to Russia.

          • loki

            wtf are you talking about …. no mention of the battle of midway…… I would love to see that history book of yours

          • Blue

            Wtf are you talking about!….
            Midway happened in 1942, genius. How can nuking Japan in 1945 save those lives? Did you read your book from back to front?

          • Dr Sun

            maybe, but it most certainly was not intended to and did not save China’s ass.

          • Blue

            Yes, I doubt the fate of the Chinese was given even the remotest consideration in this decision making process.

          • Frank

            no, “they” nuked it to obtain control of the region… duh.

          • Dr Sun

            you should be telling that to anon101, not me as he believes they did it out of some altruistic purpose which saved China from a already defeated Japanese army in full retreat.

          • Frank

            “unsubscribe”

          • Mateusz82

            That and to show off to/threaten the USSR, since they knew the Cold War was coming soon as WWII was ending.

          • Alex Dương

            Also, while the heavenly kingdom of a billion people were taken over by 100,000 japanese troops

            Really? Please state at what point between 1937 and 1945 the Republic of China was taken over by the Empire of Japan.

          • Dr Sun

            Chinese population 1937 – 511078,0

          • Alex Dương

            And not only that, even by Japan’s conservative estimates, at least 480,000 Japanese soldiers died in China. If anon101 had a horrible experience in China and wants to let everyone know how bad it was, that’s his right. But if he’s going to spew shit like this, he shouldn’t get uptight when he gets called out on his nonsense.

          • Dr Sun

            +1

          • Frank

            so where did your great grandfather die then?

            didnt think so…

          • Alex Dương

            My great-grandfather died in China. Your point is?

          • Frank

            see above ding dong.

          • Frank

            learn some history, it will explain why… dummy

          • Blue

            What if he’s Greek? Or Egyptian? Actually, for that matter, from nearly any country on earth?
            Ever heard of Stonehenge? Proof of civilization and culture in Britain 5000 years ago. China was just better at keeping records. Once a bureaucrat, always a bureaucrat. And what has China been doing for the last 1000 years, if not just resting on its laurels of the glory days of innovation and invention?
            Your 6000 years argument, if it can be called that, is just as old and tired, and proves absolutely nothing.

          • loki

            modern china laying clain to the previous 5000 years is so stupid… china has only 70years or so of real culture.. everything else is not present in today’s society…

          • Frank

            why arent people kung fu fighting these motherfuckers with knives? I will!!!!

          • RickyBeijing

            I think the Chinese nation simply have fear. Not of anything in particular.

          • Correction: 56 ethnicities, no culture, and certainly not very civilized.

          • Brian227

            Maybe it’s just down to bad experience. The majority of GZ’s Africans seem to be from Nigeria, a country which has a reputation for the worst sort of behaviour amongst its expats. If they’d had their main experiences with, say, Kenyans or Ghanaians it might have been different.

            Having said that, it’s not the first time African mores have caused tension. The Nanjing anti-African riots of 88/89 were prompted by a small number of scholarship students ignoring the rules of the scholarship they were there under.

          • Brian227

            Indirectly, yes it can equal a risk of riots. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=80a_1370111597

            An unwillingness to accept that they don’t have an automatic right to visa extension or to remain in China seemed to be at the root of that fracas, otherwise they’d have gone home when told to.

          • Frank

            EVERYBODY in GZ knows that if you want drugs or sex, go to the africans. go figure.

          • hess

            I’m pretty sure prostitution was common in GZ before the Africans came, since its China.

          • Frank

            sure you’re sure, you’re swedish! as in I am so small I have a small complex.. so I go to china because they are small too! :)) swedish freak. you’re such a swedish loser… cant find a girl at home? go back to your inbreds in northland weirdo.

          • hess

            Eh, I am back in Stockholm and have been for quite a while. Also, what does any of what you just wrote have to do with Africans in Guangzhou?

          • Frank

            absolutely nothing. glad to hear you’re home with your sisterwife. have fun. bye bye 88

          • xiaode

            hi..

            in fact.. it´s no big deal! In 2012 > 50 Mio Foreigners visited China with 20.000 of them had issues with their visas (overstay, wrong visa, whatever…) That´s 0,04%!!! If someone really consider this as a thread he must be a real idiot!

          • Zappa Frank

            some consider a threat mixed couples and claim chinese race is on the edge of extiction..

          • Frank

            why because the gays are taking over? as if… lol

          • Frank

            you are right. its a mass movement of people (mostly the felons, wanted, murderers, rapists, thieves, aids inflicted) from africa to china under fake ids – they never had one in the first place, but due to corruptions its an easy fix to get a legit id and start a new life in china – pretending to be an “african american” performer or teacher…….. as if

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            china just for han and other 56 ethinic groups only!

          • mr.wiener

            Dial it back please, you are still on probation in my eyes.

          • Zappa Frank

            ok than chinese should avoid to live abroad… would be ok as well?

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            i have no idea what you are saying!

          • Zappa Frank

            simple, take back your people before asking other people to do not come in your country. use the same standard..

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            initate it yourself first?

          • Zappa Frank

            we have just in italy more than 200k chinese, 1/3 of all foreigners in china (considering illegals maybe 300-400k). and do we have to start first to back home? please…

          • Stefan

            What do Italians think of them?

          • Zappa Frank

            is up to the different situations. In a small town with few chinese they just think chinese are reserved, or shy.. in a town with 25% of chinese some are a lot less tollerant…as usual is difficult to say who is racist, who has some rights, who is totally wrong.. it is just a mess..
            sincerelly i have no knowledge of friendship, it usually happen with chinese students in italy, but almost never with chinese immigrants.

            you have to consider something, chinese in italy are almost all from wenzhou, or better, from the villages around wenzhou. i’ve been told many time by chinese people that they are quite different from other chinese, even more closed on themselves, so that rarely even accept chinese from other places and use to look down upon all.. still most of them are from countryside so that is common for them put on the balcony fishes to get them dry and so on… they carry with them those countrysides manners that would be bad even in chinese towns and are not tollerated in europe. Is not a big fault for me, but especially with a crisis people turn bad for nothing…

          • noodles76

            Well said…oh wait….what…the?

          • hess

            Theres millions of chinese abroad, should they return?

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            doesn’t concern me, there are millions of stolen treasure from white people. should that return too?

          • hess

            Hmm, so chinese people may live abroad but a foreigner may not reside in china?

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            anyone can live in china but we dont need assholes. especially when black people in GZ are becoming cunt like! the crimes and astrocities that they commit is beyond i can bear. i call upon pulic exuction and all the old punishment system from the dark ages! i want to see their fleash sliced by piece by piece!

          • mr.wiener

            You’re gone.

          • noodles76

            Wheeeeeee!

          • Stefan

            Is she banned?

          • Zappa Frank

            he, is a he…

          • Stefan

            Oh, I didn’t look on the name. I just looked on the picture….

          • noodles76

            To prevent potential trauma later on in your life…it’s safer to assume that any avatar featuring overly large mammary glands belongs to a guy sitting in his mom’s basement. Likely he’ll often be typing with one hand……

            …the more you know

          • mr.wiener

            You can always tell the ones who were bottle fed as babies.

          • anon101

            lol

          • donscarletti

            So being racist against Chinese is fine, but against blacks its forbidden?

          • mr.wiener

            No being a disruptive troll is. I see plenty of posts every week about how the Chinese are the scum of the world and should be killed [usually written in a style as incoherent as this] but they never make it to the page [you’re welcome]. Above all else he was warned before and warned again last night.
            You don’t agree? Cool, go tell Kai I’m doing a bad job.

          • David

            Good job.

          • Jahar

            This guy’s awesome. Don’t ban him. It’s very amusing.

          • Dr Sun

            me thinks this is a troll

          • wnsk

            i think it was Womanizer…same guy.

          • Dr Sun

            Oh, they’re always coming and going, coming and coming and it’s always too fast.

          • IsurvivedChina

            I think you may be right! he was all like this on another thread! I do so love picking fights with trolls though!

          • Kai

            Please don’t feed or pick fights with trolls.

          • noodles76

            I’m sorry, what ‘astrocities’ are you referring to? And why should there be a ‘pulic exuction’. While we are at it..what’s your problem with their ‘fleash’ ????

            The more you type, the more you amaze me.

          • mr.wiener

            Some folks should not type while on the ganja perhaps.

          • Dr Sun

            LOL

          • Having trouble rubbing one out? Try holding your breath. It is meant to help.

          • Gordon Gogodancer

            I thought at first you were just joking…but i’m that completely sure anymore :D

          • Paul Schoe

            Such a pity that the number of down-votes is no longer visible

          • David

            Yea, why even have down votes if they are not visible? Have names too, people should have the courage of their convictions.

          • Kai

            Blame Disqus, it’s not something we can control.

          • David

            awwww I was not aware. Thanks for the information.

          • Angry_African_man

            Anyone can live in Africa but we don’t need assholes. Especially when Chinese people in Africa[South Africa, Nigeria, Cameroon, Ghana, Congo, Angola, Burundi, Rwanda, Sudan, Somali, Uganda, Mali, Tanzania, Kenya, Zimbabwe and many many more] are becoming cunt like! The crimes and atrocities that they commit is beyond [what] I can bear. I call upon public execution and all the old punishment system from the dark ages! I want to see their flesh sliced piece by piece!
            I’ve seen how Chinese people behave there, there are many Chinese people with no valid visa working in Tanzania, I’ve seen Chinese Kidnapping other Chinese and force them to work as prostitutes in Angola, Nigeria, Ghana and South Africa, I’ve seen Chinese people beating immigration officers in Kenya because they didn’t have a person who can translate Chinese for them so they can understand each other[I could hardly find any immigration officer who could speak English in China, sometimes they even say there is no one responsible for foreigners now, come back after two days. I wonder what would happen if that happened in China], I’ve seen Chinese people selling guns in Sudan and Somalia[ backed by Chinese gov’t] , they sold machetes to Burundians and Rwandans so they can kill each other, I’ve seen Chinese people poaching Elephants for their Ivory in Zimbabwe, South Africa and many parts in Africa, and much more if I had to mention here I will need a whole year to compile whole of the shits they do, just one year ago a Chinese ship was caught fishing illegally near the coast of Indian Ocean[Mozambique].
            I’ve seen this with my own eyes, now I am not gonna say that those Africans in Guangzhou are angels, but compared to what Chinese people do there, I’ll bet you 1,000,000 bucks, they are.
            What’s ironic is that you are trying harder to sound like a gangster, which makes you a pathetic, sadistic, egotistical, hypocrite mtfk.
            @donscarletti:disqus you just proved how shallow you are because it’s not just about racism, it’s about how you perceive what should have to be done to a human being, unless you think it’s ok if one has to go medieval on your ass just because he/she thinks you “White” people are doing bad things in their land in which Africa has a very genuine reason to slice White people to peaces due to the atrocities they did and what they are still doing there.
            Now I am going to eat bananas, because that’s a great thing to do when you get angry, I suggest you do too.

          • Zappa Frank

            mostly you destroyed by yourself. you should thanks us for preserving it, if we did not take it it would be long time gone..

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            mostly by us? stop acting if italy was ever part of anything! do i need to remind the late Qing period?

          • Zappa Frank

            yes my dear, you destoryed by yourself most of your treasure, during the communist years.. so much that actually in china is more or less all rebuildt and fake while the few saved things are in taiwan.. deal with it.
            ps italy was irrelevant during the qing dinasty.
            Tell me which are those many treasure we stole? any idea?

          • noodles76

            Considering nobody gives a fuck about it except Chinese…it’s likely you do need to remind us.

          • Stefan

            No, people should decide freely which country to move to.

          • China is just for Hans, period. The other 56 ehtnic minorities, they only come out during Oct 1 on CCTV for National Day celebrations, like dressed-up circus monkeys

          • anon101

            yet every chinese person dreams of going to a land where the air is safe to breath, the water is safe to drink, the food is safe from poison, where people can drive, where laws are respected and upheld, where you cant buy everything, where there are wide open spaces, where they are treated as humans, where if they hate the government they can just vote a new one in..

            also you are on chinasmack, these are chinese people who fuck up china, nothing to do with black people.

          • Stefan

            Foreigners as in White people?
            Most foreigners in China are actually Asians such as Koreans and Japanese.

          • hess

            Foreigners as in not Chinese

          • Stefan

            Did you talk some nationalist Chinese? or do Chinese generally have that viewpoint?

            Because that’s just stupid since foreigners only are 0.1 percent of China’s population.

          • hess

            Just a few fenqing meatheads who had that opinion

          • wes707

            Actually foreigners are only .04 percent of the population in China. Just like Hess, I’ve also heard fenqing complain about how many foreigners there are in China.

          • Dr Sun

            point of correction.600,000 foreigners were living on the Chinese mainland at the end of 2010, out of a population of 1.3 billion , thats 0.0021.

          • PeterScriabin

            Dr Sun: there’s nothing much right in your post. Perhaps no one cares about figures, but I don’t see the point of posting 100% (sic) garbage! Even taking your base stats at face value, and actually calculating:

            . 600K / 1.3bn = .046%, not .0021%.
            . 3.7mn / 313 mn = 1.2%, not 0.29%
            . 0.4% of 1.3bn = 5.2mn, not 35mn

          • Frank

            actually, unless you have a reason to be here, leave asswhipe.

          • wes707

            Thankfully I’m not in China, only have to travel there for business. Please never come to the West you Han tribalist/xenophobe/fascist. You should go back to reading 环球时报; it’ll make you feel better about your inferiority complex.

          • Frank

            “unsubscribe”

          • wes707

            自卑中国男人

          • Mateusz82

            Black, brown, white… just any non-yellow people (regardless of whether they’re Asian or otherwise) are “foreign” in the eyes of the prevailing Chinese mindset.

          • Frank

            so wrong on so many levels.. you just have NO idea do you….

          • Mateusz82

            Care to elaborate on that, if you can? I would posit that my years in China, interacting with Chinese, gives me plenty of idea. If you disagree, explain.

          • Frank

            says the monkey african

          • hess

            “says the monkey african” Huh? I’m Swedish you buttwipe

          • Frank

            oh god.. even worse!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            30% of france is black, france is losing its culture.

          • Zappa Frank

            are you serious? have you ever been in france to say so?

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            i wouldn’t go to europe and breed out the people there. i welcome all people but our country have a huge population crysis. we dont need extra foreign people who does not embrace our culture. france is far more blacker and browner than you think.

          • Zappa Frank

            ok i can read your reply as “i don’t have any idea of what i’m saying”…i’ve been in france, you did not seem
            you don’t need extra foreigners? strange because many are really wanted in china, maybe not by you.. but a lot of people want us in china. On the other side, do we need chinese? why than don’t you start to take them back before complaining about foreigners in china?

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            might as well to dice up the provices into states like before.

          • Chinese

            It’s usually the host country’s responsibility to send back ‘unwanted’ people.

          • Zappa Frank

            yes is true… however some are more tollerant than others. Strange to see that according to who is the immigrant and who is the host different standards are asked

          • noodles76

            I doubt you could go anywhere and ‘breed out the people’. Your personality seems likely to be too much of a turn off.

            And as has been said by Zappa Frank…China does need those ‘extra’ foreign people. We bring skills not available from the local population.

            Grow up. If China did not need foreigners, they would not hesitate to ban us all. Don’t be all butthurt because some of those foreigners end up with Chinese women. As to ’embracing’ Chinese culture…go ahead and clarify for me what exactly Chinese culture consists of.

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            is that a challenge? sounds awafully like one. ask yourself how would you feel that your country (england preumeably) are 90% black and they speak other language than english?

          • mr.wiener

            It already does in some suburbs of London.

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            jolly good for them :)

          • Zappa Frank

            in my country in some towns there are more chinese than italians.. what about them? why should we tollerate?

          • Francisco De Vitoria

            see it’s already happening! let’s talk about a problem at once, you are shifting the topic quite often and that irrates me awafully alot.

          • loki

            Not really the whole country but definitely where I grew up (stockton California, 95205 look it up if you like) Black hate crimes shootings, rape, drugs, home invasions,gang violence… ah home. Am I prejudice? Damn right I am, and I carry that with me in the form of a .38 slug in the middle of my back… (slightly off to the side actually but still)

          • David

            I usually carry 6 .38 slugs with me, they happen to be in my 8″ barrel .357 unfortunately I am not allowed to carry them with me in China. Sorry to hear about you being shot.

          • noodles76

            Did I miss something? Is China 90% foreigner of any shade anywhere?

          • Chinese

            Every country needs a skilled population, those illegal immigrants should be driven out, be them Chinese or blacks.

          • Dr Sun

            what about the Irish ?

          • loki

            sorry but I say screw em’ blacks, whites, whatever s.. at most we(foreigners) are guests here. unfortunately we(generally speaking) act like entitled bitches. Especially the black population in GZ.
            So expect some racism, expect Chinese people to not be so fncking happy when they see you(foreigners in general) walking by. Because chances are some other guy made a bad impression on that Chinese person long before you or me had a chance to say hi.

          • Stefan

            U R A RACIST!

          • loki

            yo, stefan…. you forgot me… please add me to that list…

          • Dr Sun

            McDonalds, their putting something in the food.

          • noodles76

            Didn’t you crap on somebody very recently for grammar and/or spelling? Their? Hmmmmm…..

          • Dr Sun

            yes “their” it’s plural for more than one person.

          • noodles76

            you mean like…they are… as in they’re? their is a possessive adjective. They’re putting something in their food. /boggle

            Thought you were smarter than that. If it makes you feel better, I knew a guy who used to pass himself off as a PhD who often mixed up than and then. He’d spout off mountains of bullshit and he liked to believe since he said it…it was gospel. Funny guy.

          • Dr Sun

            never said I was smart, handsome yes, a magnet for women, yes and a half decent spin bowler if I say so myself.

          • noodles76

            got to give you bonus points for spin bowling!

          • IsurvivedChina

            way to go Noodles76, it was I he was crapping on, I’ve never laughed so hard! I nearly spilt my coffee!

      • loki

        its probably feels like there are a million of them running around.. not important, the misquoting of a statistic.. your missing the point of the comment.

      • Chinese

        That 600k is probably the de jure population,many are unaccounted for, especially those who deliberately hide from officials.

        • Jahar

          the people who come up with these numbers aren’t stupid. They would have thought of that.

      • Rick in China

        Legally / tracked.

        (totally trolling here.)

    • Francisco De Vitoria

      do you live in china germandude?

    • loki

      But that chinese guy does have a point… the black population have rioted in the past ..

    • Sean Van Cura

      Hahaha what the hell is this guy smoking?

    • lacompacida

      In Guangzhou, this can be considered minor. Guangzhou still has over 10 milion Han people who haven’t rioted [collectively cause trouble]. If they do, the result is unbearable to imagine.

    • Mighty曹

      Where’s Marcus Black?

      • Zappa Frank

        he’s pointing his laser pen on all buildings around, in china it takes sometime..

        • Mighty曹

          The police arrested him and he’s now making shopping bags at some factory. hahaha… did you hear that news?

      • Germandude

        No idea, maybe in Guangzhou, experiencing the freedom of China after complaining publicly that his visa was not extended. All that while having some laser pointer fun of course.
        @franciscodevitoria:disqus then called his Chengguan friends to show him that he ain’t welcome because he is not HAN or member of one of the 56 minorities.

        Life is tough, you see!?

        • Mighty曹

          Hahaha… yeah! Maybe he’s made his way to Xinjiang by now.

    • Ryo Saeba

      We all know they are all there just to date the fat women.

    • Chaddington

      Number of Africans in China is a drop in the bucket compared to the Chinese in Africa. They’re pretty much every where there. My flight between Kenya and South Africa was pretty much HALF Chinese.

  • Commander Jameson

    The Chinese police are so weak, what is all this crap about verbal warnings? If someone is going around stabbing people – take him/her out immediately.

  • don mario

    i’m starting to become desensitized by all of these. i’m sad for the loss of human life but other than that i don’t really know what to think. the full story will never be released so we will not get a proper understanding of what has happened in any of these tragic events.

  • filabusta

    At least they had a gun on hand this time.

  • Surfeit

    I hope this isn’t trend setting amongst whackos, nut jobs, and wannabe political statement makers. Chinese train stations are tough/difficult enough already.

  • Zen my Ass

    Shit happens and, in a country of 1.4 billions and counting, more shit is likely to happen. Deal with it, folks.

  • loki

    haha… the picture above is not correctly labeled.. (so it seems…)
    the picture of the guy being carried away is the actually shot bad guy…
    you can see in the other picture of him facing off against the police..

    edit geez that’s a big ass knife (machete)

    • David

      Whoever is being carried, remind me to never get injured in China, whatever was wrong with me would have been made much worse.

  • Dannisi

    What did we ever do to the world?….
    :(

    • Dr Sun

      I’ll have to google that….

      But for some reason the Dutch East Indies springs to mind and wasn’t the pilot of the first European ship to find Japan Dutch ?

    • Zappa Frank

      .. you want to close your coffeeshop to all non native people.. that’s enough for a war.

      • Dannisi

        They’re going back on that probably. They only reason tourists come to Amsterdam is hookers and weed. If you take that away….
        It sucks for the Germans al Belgians though

    • The Dutch started the slave trade fuck you nigga

      • Germandude

        hahaha, great joke

        Slave trade happened a bit earlier, I’d say. Remember the times at the Roman Empire? Slave trade from middle-Eastern countries, African provinces towards Carthage, Rome?

        Or approximately 1000 years before that? Slave trade has a longer history than the times you are refering to.

        • mr.wiener

          Then the Ottomans continued the tradition. The word “slave” probably comes from “Slav”.

          • Germandude

            “sclavus”, old latin word, used by the Romans already ;-)

          • mr.wiener

            Conceded, never argue latin with a German.

          • Aetius

            Medieval Latin… ergo Mr Wiener is right. Slavonic peoples had been reduced to a servile state by conquest in the 9th century. Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

          • donscarletti

            I once worked with a bunch of German engineers in Australia.

            One day after work, we were playing Settlers of Catan and I thought I had won, put down my cards to buy the needed upgrades, but then realised I was short a card and didn’t win.

            Then one of the older Germans, stood up, rearranged my cards, irritatedly showed me what I should buy to win that turn and then sat down.

            I said “you were on 9 points, you would have won next turn if you hadn’t done that!”

            His response: “This is just like you fold a map wrongly in front of an engineers face, I cannot watch such a thing without becoming angry!”

          • donscarletti

            According to wiktionary “sclavus” is medievil latin for slave, based on “Slavus”, which means Slav.

            I think in Classical Latin, slave is Servus, though it would make sense if there were other synonyms.

          • Germandude

            Apologies. You and @Aetius appear to be right on this.

            I never learned Latin but am convinced I read “sclavus” in a book about the Roman Empire long time ago, hence why I connected both.

            I stay corrected.

            @mrwiener:disqus Sorry mate.

    • Germandude

      Well what can it be? You never won the world cup, so that’s out of question. hehe

      • Paul Schoe

        A German never forgets his nightmares.

        • Germandude

          There are only two numbers that need to be mentioned here. And they don’t cause nightmares to Germans, but to Dutch

          Nineteenseventyfour

          Zero
          (the amount of world cups the Dutch won)

          ;-)

          • Paul Schoe

            The funny thing is, that almost all the Germans who I know, knows those numbers by heart. It is as if they go to bed with it every day, and tell new generations about it as well.
            Mysterious.

          • Germandude

            Check out how the rivalry started and you understand. If you really think, it’s mysterious, that can only mean that you are no football fan.

          • Paul Schoe

            You are right, I am not a football fan.
            It is just funny how all those Germans know those Dutch numbers, and some of them weren’t even born in 74.

            Holland; German’s secret fascination? Or does the big elephant of Europe indeed have scary nightmares?

          • Germandude

            The Dutch started the rivalry after WW 2, some players mentioning that (when playing against GER), they were playing to beat Germans for what happened in the war. Dutch players playing in Germany were often insulted by other Dutch as traitors and so on.

            In 1974, the Dutch had a great team and decided that there is no better place to win the first world cup, than in Germany. Germany won however. Germany than decided to accept the rivalry.

            1980s were insane because of hooliganism on both sides. The Dutch team was great in the 80s with van Basten, Gullit etc, but when Ronald Koeman wiped his butt with a German shirt and Rijcaard spit on Voeller in 1990, it went too far.
            Luckily, the rivalry has kind of cooled down now.

            I never go further than making some jokes about football and beer. Dutch to me are brothers and I would even say a role model for tolerance from which many Germans could learn.

          • Paul Schoe

            You are very generous. But you are right, as long as we do not meet each other on the Dutch beaches, but here in China, the Germans and Dutch are like brothers (who cannot stop arguing about the World Cup and the bicycles ;-).

  • Yes!

    Matter of time before they hit the schools, ala MeiGuo.

  • lacompacida

    Xinjiang people are Xinjiang people. They are not Chinese ?

    • noodles76

      They’re only Chinese when it’s convenient.

  • lacompacida

    US must rethink its foreign policies and why do they trigger so many attacks on US citizens.

    • Dr Sun

      lost me ? are you posting on the correct thread or site ?

      • noodles76

        In a thread full of so many WTF posts…..his takes the cake.

        • wnsk

          he’s just trying to be funny/sarcastic…a little too hard, methinks.

  • Daniel

    “Xinjiang people [Uighurs] are Xinjiang people, terrorists are terrorists, the two have no relationship[…]”
    You could say that not all Xinjiang person are terrorists, but all terrorists are Xinjiang person.
    Even though thats just considering China

    • Dr Sun

      Correct me if I’m wrong but are you saying that only Uyghur are Xinjiang people ?

      • Chinese

        That’s said by the translator.

        • Dr Sun

          so the Dzungar are not Xinjiang people ?

          • Chinese

            I will assume you are not trolling,that bracket [Uighurs] is added by the translator, there is no mentioning of any ethnicity in the original text.

      • donscarletti

        When Chinese use the term “新疆人” they typically refer to visible minorities, mostly Uyghur and Kazakh people. Since Chinese can’t tell the difference between those two (I can’t either) they use that term to encompass them both.

        Han, Hui and Mongol people are rarely referred to by that term even when relating to the province’s population as a whole, whereas Turkic people are called that whether they live in Xinjiang or not.

        I think the addition here is appropriate.

  • Pako-chan

    as perfect as any other country you would say.

    • Boris

      worse than some, better than others.

      • Irvin

        As good as any and better than most.

  • Barack Obama

    why don’t these people ever go for the corrupt government officials?…

    • YourSupremeCommander

      That would be doing good.

    • David

      The question I ask every time. Not advocating killing corrupt government officials (THAT would be a long night) but saying if you are going to kill people anyway kill the ones you actually hate. On the other hand it is much more difficult to GET to government officials.

  • Mighty曹

    I used to always travel by train from Hong Kong to Guangzhou. Upon arrival I always had to watch out for police/security personnel approaching me as they’d try to “confiscate” something from me. Now they’d be the least of my worry.

  • death_by_ivory

    Lucky they didnt have guns.

    • Mighty曹

      It’s a matter of time before Al Queda arms the extremists in China.

  • Zappa Frank

    everyone look down on everyone else..

  • What’s next?
    A woman argues with her husband and throws her baby under a bus only to be killed by knife-wielding attackers at the bus station who then are killed by police officers who then are killed by an explosion while holding hands?

    • Mighty曹

      Explosion caused by Chengguans forcibly removing gutter oil processing.

      • who then are killed by a disgruntled street vendor who then is killed from eating his own food

        • Mighty曹

          Whose surviving family members sue the city government for taking bribes to build that bus station, which attracted illegal street vendors.

  • wnsk

    But why did you go to China? If you don’t mind me asking.

  • Q Ball

    China is lucky to not have guns. If this was America, dozens would have died. Nobody died here.

    • Dante

      Guns would reduce the population though, right?

  • YourSupremeCommander

    Guangzhou has been totally fucked by people from other provinces.

    • Irvin

      You sound like you’re from guangzhou.

      • YourSupremeCommander

        I sound like someone who said: Guangzhou has been totally fucked by people from other provinces.

        • Surfeit

          Irvin got served like a lemon sorbet as the first course on a 5 course 3 star meal.

  • Boris

    You must not be that confident if you are only betting that much.

  • loki

    did I say “all black people” are are raping drug dealing pieces of shit ? because some of them are… Its not my logic . try again…

    • MyMotto

      No you didn’t say that, but you didn’t differentiate between black ppl and criminals. You just say that the reason everyone hates black ppl because they do fcked up shit, makes it sound like you’re calling all blacks criminals…

    • Angry_African_man

      Now you sound like an idiot.

      • loki

        you sound black!!! (is there a difference?)

  • Surfeit

    BAMN!

  • David

    Well, I think it matters to the one who was murdered. Or would have when it was happening.

  • Q Ball

    Wait, guns beat tanks? I must be living in a different world….

  • Tova Rischi

    Weren’t they nominally peaceful democratic socialists from the get go? Tied to the new left, pacifism, etc? And students?

  • Blue

    I agree….

  • Blue

    It still maintain it was unnecessary, as the US could have accepted surrender at any time.

  • Mighty曹

    Damn Bro! I was about to write on your wall like “Where ya been?” Traveling?
    Yeah I feel sorry for that dude who spent 2 years making shopping bags. LOL

  • whuddyasack

    Off the top of my head, 1988, 2011, 2012 were the years the “niggas” went all out. 1992 in L.A. as well they had their anti-Asian (Korean) riots. Some of the more illogical ones will justify their violent, unreasonable behavior with Black powaa.

    • Angry_African_man

      How are you going to justify the riots in Taiwan and Hong kong?
      Do not other races also riot when there is something off?
      Riots happens because one group think that the other group is unreasonable, so don’t you just go about saying there was “unreasonable behavior with Black powaa”, because may be, may be you are too arrogant or too stupid to understand what they wanted.

      • Alex Dương

        I disagree with whuddyasack’s stereotyping of “black powaa [sic],” but that said, the 1992 L.A. Riots are pretty indefensible. The Koreans aren’t 100% blameless, no, but ultimately, they served black communities; blacks rioted against people who served them.

      • whuddyasack

        Yes, everyone riots. What’s different is the frequency of riots. In terms of total frequencies, Caucasians riot the most and in terms of rates, I’d argue Blacks lead, although Caucasians like Indians, North Africans, Mid-Easterns probably riot even more. As for the unreasonable Black Powaa thing, those are the explanations Blacks give to Asian Americans seeking answers to Black-on-Asian violence.

        • Angry_African_man

          I don’t think your comment explained what I asked for, you had better just go finish your baijiu other than writing a comment explaining races.
          And why don’t you call asian yellow as you are calling blacks?
          Your statement should be “As for the unreasonable Black Powaa thing, those are the explanations Blacks give to Yellows seeking answers to Black-on-Yellow violence.”

    • Surfeit

      ‘the years the “niggas” went all out’…

  • Angry_African_man

    It’s just easier to say there are thousands unregistered blacks living in Guangzhou, but believe me there are thousands of unregistered foreigners living in all over China. Europeans(I know it’s hard to swallow, but it’s the fact.), Americans, Philipinos, Vietnams, and many many others, it’s just easier to pick on Blacks

    • Surfeit

      Logic good, logic bad. GZ is the size of a large city. China is the size of a continent. Likewise you removed Europeans and Americans from blacks. Come to my hood bro, say that shit out loud! I’m not disagreeing with you per say, it just aint no solid truth.

      • Angry_African_man

        GZ might as well be the size of a country, if you want to put it that way, ever heard of a country called Seychelles?
        Which part did I remove Europeans and Americans from blacks?

        • Surfeit

          I duno man I was drunk when I wrote that. HAHA! Yeah GZ is massive. In both ways! I.E. ‘Jungle is massive!’

        • Surfeit

          And why so angry, African man?

          • Angry_African_man

            Well since you asked, I will not answer u directly but I’ll put it this way.
            A Chinese person hacks Chinese people with a made in China machete, the argument turns out to be a speeches of venom against Africans/Blacks.
            It’s unbelievable how people can be delusional here. Somehow I think they try to shift the attention on purpose so that people will turn to Africans because they know many people like to talk shit about Africans.

  • Surfeit

    Several… as in more than two?

  • Surfeit

    Your mom is blocked in China!

    • Dr Sun

      damn, thats harsh

      • Surfeit

        Yeah, I resent my own words. Drunken scupper! I’m sure Boris’ mother is a wonderful person.

        • Surfeit

          Sorry Boris.

  • TheFall ofGreat Wall

    Oh I see..Thanks for showing me…I was wandering if my blog is opened in china or not..its actually very new!!! just one week!!! Chinese censors super detective!!!

  • wazxhk

    After all these horrible incidents has happened in China,I dare not to go out of my school.Whenever I go to some public places like Tianhe Shopping mall,i feel scared even many polices are searching around,after all,those bastards would hide weapons inside them(I guess).Why hurt ordinary people?They have done nothing wrong………………..Feel so outraged and still scared.

  • Surfeit
  • Frank

    @

    “Alex Dương

    My great-grandfather died in China. Your point is?”

    my point is, like father like son. fuck around enough and you’ll die here too ;))

  • Vernon Alarcon

    if it aint da blacks, it beez black behavior (too much rap) an sheeut …

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