Yulin Dog Meat Festival Controversy and Conflict Escalates

A large number of police is at the scene.

From NetEase:

Yulin Dog Meat Festival Conflict Escalates, Large Number of Police On Scene to Maintain Order

On the night of 2014 June 21, in Guangxi Yulin, at a dog meat restaurant near Jiangbin Xinmin Road, a conflict happened between several dog lovers local diners that resulted in one of the diners’ mouth being bloodied. This incident attracted a crowd, and the two parties in conflict were also taken away by the police in a hurry. Reporters of this article arrived at the scene of the incident that night at a bit after 10pm and witnessed a large number of police and police vehicles guarding the area, while people were looked on in twos and threes talking about the incident. A Yulin man surnamed Lu told reporters that the incident happened at a little past 8pm. At that time, several out-of-town dog lovers for some reason came into conflict with the diners that developed into physical violence. He personally saw that the diner’s mouth was covered with blood. Another onlooker told reporters that when nearby diners and city residents learned that this diner had been injured, they very quickly gathered. As of 10:50 that night, police were still persuading people at the scene to disperse. Pictures are of the scene of the incident.

A large number of police is at the scene.

A large number of police is at the scene.

A large number of police is at the scene.

Two pro-dog eating banners are being displayed.

2014 June 21, Guangxi Yulin’s “Lychee & Dog Meat Festival” took place as planned amidst the protests of dog lovers. A kitchenware merchant hung up banners that read: “Thank you for letting our countrymen see the spirit of unity among the people of Yulin”, “We respect [support] lychee & dog meat culture [tradition], and love and respect the law even more”.

Two foreigners are welcomed after they sampled dog meat.

Picture is of local residents looking on and seeing off two foreign friends after they sampled dog meat.

Two foreigners are welcomed after they sampled dog meat.

Two foreigners are welcomed after they sampled dog meat.

People are eating dog meat.

Photo is of crowded Jiangbin Road large where dog meat restaurants are concentrated. Despite protests by dog lovers, the locals eat dog meat as they please.

The overly crowded streets outside of dog meat restaurants.

The overly crowded streets outside of dog meat restaurants.

The police is maintaining order on the street.

Local police forces were increased to maintain order.

The overly crowded streets outside of dog meat restaurants.

Nearby residents watching the bustling scene from above.

Comments from NetEase (1 & 2):

网易北京市朝阳区网友 ip:114.243.*.*:

Can [you dog lovers] treat your parents better than you treat dogs? Everyday, your parents only eat vegetables, conserve water, conserve electricity, while fucking still have money to spend on dogs~

网易广东省广州市网友 ip:61.140.*.*:

Take a look at Bai Yansong’s shows on CCTV, over 70% of netizens support the Dog Meat Festival. The Dog-Worshipping Cult’s law-breaking activities have already sparked the people’s wrath. Now the Dog-Worshipping Cult is starting to attack people. This can no longer be tolerated. On a national TV show back in 2011, Professor Zhao Nanyuan of Tsinghua University said: animal rights activists are another form of terrorism. While Korean scholar/author Li Chengxian expressed that according to a survey, 70% of Korean men and 40% of Korean women have eaten dog meat, and that the conflict over eating dogs in China is exactly the same as it was in Korea back then. Today, 70% of Koreans agree that dog eaters and dog lovers should [be able to] co-exist.

送子和尚 [网易河南省郑州市网友]:

The best way to solve this:

Cook a big pot of delicious dog meat, and place it in the center of the dining table. First, have the dog lovers go around the table in a circle to say farewell to the dog’s remains, while presenting the elegiac couplet: ”Lovely doggies, you will live in our hearts forever!”

Then, dog eaters sit down around the table, face the dog meat and pray in their hearts: ”Dear doggies, you will live in our stomachs forever!”

Then the host declares: the farewell ceremony is concluded. Man your positions. Begin eating! Begin crying!

Soon, with the diners gorging themselves and the dog lovers wailing, the scene is one that is both harmonious and lively…

清风泛舟 [德国球迷]:

Do dog lovers love only dogs but not people? Dog lovers using violence, what the hell?! Preserving diversity of culture is better than being extreme.

高级五角 [英格兰球迷]:

Dog meat is delicious, I also eat it!! But I still hope our country will issue policies concerning the supply chain of stealing pet dogs to be sold for slaughter and meat!!!

I hope dogs can be like pigs and cows, raised on farms, to be sold for their meat!!!

正义鹰派他爹 [网易陕西省渭南市网友]:

They are all descendants of Xiaotian Dog [Erlang Shen‘s pet], understandable…

夏小阿碗 [德国球迷]:

Why not protest against eating pork? Why isn’t there anyone protesting against eating ducks, chickens, or cows? Aren’t dogs the same as pigs, cows, sheep, and chickens?

woshidabaichi1234 [网易河南省平顶山市网友]:

Make light of traveling from afar to save dogs. What kind of mentality is this?

jinkem [网易浙江省金华市网友]:

Cows and sheep also cry, how come I never see these beasts protecting them? Seems like it is necessary to eat some dog meat to piss off these hypocrites.

网易广西南宁市手机网友 ip:180.136.*.*:

I’m going to Yulin and eat dog meat tomorrow.

网易广东省广州市手机网友 ip:117.136.*.*:

Dog fans, how about spending more of your time taking care of your own parents?

网易陕西省宝鸡市手机网友 ip:124.116.*.*:

Damn, you hurt people for the sake of dogs? So JB crazy.

网易广东省中山市手机网友 ip:183.32.*.*:

At the anti-Dog Meat Festival victory meeting, a reporter asks a senior representative of the dog fans: ”Both your father and your dog fall into the sea, who would you save?” The audience suddenly becomes serious. How could he ask such a question? All the dog fans crane their necks with their tongues hanging out waiting to hear the representative’s reply. “Of course I’d save the dog!” the representative answers resolutely. The audiences is in an uproar, with one after another commenting, how can he be so unfilial? Seeing everyone’s misgivings, the representative immediately continues: ”Because my father is the dog!” The audience is deeply moved by the representative’s wit, and endlessly applaud.

天不平辰 [西班牙球迷]:

Because of the uproar by dog cunts’ [dog lovers, animal activists, but here referring specifically to certain extremists], I’ve come to know a place called Yulin. Because of the uproar by dog cunts’, I who never thought of eating dog meat have had this idea of actually giving it a try. Because of the uproar of dog cunts’, I’ve come to realize the sadness of fighting for dog rights instead of human rights. Because of the uproar by dog cunts’, I’ve come to realize that dogs are some people’s parents. Because of the uproar by dog cunts’, I’ve come to realize that some people are worse than dogs!

Everyone, please be my judge, what do you think of my parallelism above?

锋戈一击 [网易广东省广州市手机网友]:

Beat these hypocrites to death.

红红的月经常挂在天上 [网易上海市手机网友]:

There’s no use reasoning anymore, fuck those fucking dog loving cunts~

送你的那些花儿 [网易山东省淄博市手机网友]:

A bunch of hypocritical stupid cunts.

网易河南省周口市手机网友 ip:182.112.*.*:

Other people eating dog meat is what business of yours?

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  • Rick in China

    Why aren’t there any photos of the ‘escalation’, only photos of people snapping shots of the consumption? Oppression of riots? Photos exist somewhere surely?

  • bujiebuke

    I’m confused, how does “lychee and dog meat” go together?

    • bang2tang

      maybe it’s speciality of guilin?

    • Le chat

      Maybe it’s like “apple and pork”.

    • AbC

      lychee dog is actually a particular way of cooking the dog rather than the ingredient used in the dish. If you have sampled lychee pork in China, there is actually no lychee at all in the dish. 荔枝肉 is basically very similar to what most westerners know as sweet and sour pork. I would assume that the most common dog meat dish is prepared in that manner in Yulin.

  • Barack Obama

    if they would just treat dogs humanely when they slaughter them then a lot of the controversy would be avoided.

    • bujiebuke

      Well said. They should protest because of the cruelty, not because “dog is man’s best friend”. The specious argument that dogs shouldn’t be eaten because they’re intelligent flies in the face of overwhelming evidence that domesticated pigs are smarter than your average fido.

      Don’t judge my argument based on my profile picture…

      • Edward Kay

        Thousands of bears, pangolins and every other have died not because of their meat. Kill a shark for its fin. To put a stop to this is to close all Chinese Medical Halls.

        Lastly, humans can’t even treat each other humanely, let alone animals. It’ll be a long time more Mr 猪八戒. I think the only animal they don’t dare to touch is the panda.

        • firebert5

          “I think the only animal they don’t dare to touch is the panda.”
          And that’s only because the risk outweighs the reward. Yet there are still poachers who would if they thought they could get away with it.

          • don mario

            tigers even getting fucked over.

      • Guess

        The point is that dogs are supposed to be man’s best friend God or God’s in your term made them to help you eat other animals and help you and protect you from danger. They are not supposed to be eaten. Dogs were meant to gather other animals such as pigs and cows and sheep and the animals that are domesticated to be eaten and those people that are animal lovers and protesters against eating dogs are right. They are not cunts or bitches they are human and do have humanly thoughts and do kill the animals that are supposed to be eaten humanly. That’s my point and guess what you dog eating freaks I don’t care what you say about this. You wanna know why? because I have a dog and I treat animals right. To me you eating dogs is like us eating your kids.

  • bang2tang
  • Don’t Believe the Hype

    I thought we were going to see more “dog-lover” comments, all i see is more hatred and mudslinging from the other direction

  • Yes!

    To love humans or dogs? Answer is pretty simple: love humans first, then dogs. But if the types of humans you meet mostly are obnoxious and disgusting, like most of the mainlanders, it’s no wonder people love dogs more.

  • NightKnight

    Bravo! Chinese netizens! defending your way of life, defending your rights of enjoying food you like. Never tolerate intolerance.

    It’s the extreme dog-lovers who impose their values to others and force them to accept it, embrace it, you say no, then you are barbaric, you are going to hell.

    It reminds me that a group of Muslims live in Europe, UK specifically, are trying make alcohol illegal, cause they don’t drink it, they don’t like it, they think it’s evil. well, as the Muslim population is growing rapidly in Europe, we are all going to see the West feel the strength of “mainstream civilized world”

    • Don’t Believe the Hype

      Nice way of life you got there

    • Renjick

      LOL, uh huh.

    • Dr Sun

      kinda reminds me of the anti-smokers and they got that banned, next the booze, then tex toys…then sex……..

  • Dr Sun

    where would you like your remains sending ?

    • KamikaziPilot

      Sun, where do you come up with such comedic gold these days? That literally had me LOLing.

    • Irvin

      It’s one way to unite dog lovers and dog eaters, have a foreigner doing shit in front of them.

  • IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

    you can always go on top of one of the building with a good view of the crowd. snipe the sellers, leave the rifle, and blend back in during the chaos.

    (i watch way too much movies lol.)

    • Rick in China

      White people don’t blend into any crowds in China, except maybe middle schools at lunch time. :D

  • KamikaziPilot

    WOW I’m so impressed, I know I wouldn’t be MAN enough to do what you’re going to do. But then again I’m not even half the man you are. How many people will you kill when you get there? 10? 20? 100? I’m sure you can do it all by yourself since you’re the toughest warrior I’ve ever met. You have balls of steel and bullets and knives bounce off you. I hereby award you with the Internet Medal of Bravery. Thanks Superman, you’re really my hero. Now excuse me while I go laugh uncontrollably.

    P.S. I couldn’t resist feeding the troll.

  • KamikaziPilot

    The us (dog lovers) vs. them (dog eaters) mentality seems to just result in endless arguments about morality and culture. Best thing is to have regulations that will ensure the dogs are killed as humanely as possible and of course no stealing anyone else’s pets. Does anyone know if there’s progress on creating laws that will possibly regulate these sort of things in China? I’m curious to know. Is this situation just going to keep going on year after year. All the Chinese I’ve know love dogs and would never eat one.

    • Don’t Believe the Hype

      perhaps the fact that more people are seeing it online will increase the chance for change. It will be an interesting to see if public opinion will translate into law (assuming people are vocal and care either way).

  • Markus Peg

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    • Boris

      How much? and How much do human lovers pay extra to save this one?

  • narsfweasels

    If you want to eat dog, cat, cow, pig, sheep or whatever…. be my guest. Just don’t abuse or torture them before you do.

    • Jahar

      we torture the shit out of chickens, and fish. this is okay? And we aren’t all that kind to cows and pigs either. I don’t know about the others, i’ve never seen them farmed.

      • Irvin

        According to hannibal, tortured animals and animals that are slaughter in fear taste worst. That’s why we should all be kind to our food.

      • narsfweasels

        Who’s “we”?

  • Alex

    You’d beat up/kill those 2 foreigners?

    Just because they’re foreigners?

    Or because eating dog?

    The bad thing is stuff like the last piece news in Chinasmack, not just eating dog meat. If that was done to pigs or any other animal I’d be enraged the same.

  • mr.wiener

    ….And it begins.

    • KamikaziPilot

      Look forward to the same old story, same old comments, same old controversy, same old website one year from now. Mark your calendars.

    • Irvin

      …again

  • Germandude

    Pics or it didn’t (won’t) happen.

  • 5,000 years of uncivilization

    70% of Chinese support eating dog meat??? What’s wrong with this country? It’s much more uncivilized than i thought!

    • Paulistano
      • vincent_t

        Looks like the creators of ‘Angry Birds’ has read the 2nd link you posted

      • 5,000 years of uncivilization

        I love Spain too but i totally disagree with the actions that the article claims to happen. I never heard or saw anything about those things while living or travelling around but i don’t doubt they happened. However, what’s going on in China is going on now and seems to be unwittingly supported by too many goons. That’s some scary shit and it needs to end.

    • Irvin

      What’s so uncivilized about eating dogs?

    • don mario

      what gave you the idea that china was not uncivilised in the first place? the spitting and pooping is a good giveaway!

      • 5,000 years of uncivilization

        That and tossing rubbish about or smoking anywhere they please without any respect for others or the environment.

  • NightKnight

    Updates: Two dog-lovers are going to ship hundreds of dogs they bought in Yulin to Tianjin and Chongqing, however, there are people questioning that it’s against the law to ship and unload unquarantined animals in China, and you need certain legal documents and permit as well. these dog-lovers respond: there’s no need to do the quarantine, we are experienced with dogs, we can tell which one is sick by our eyes.

    Well, years ago…
    http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/stories/truckload-of-dogs-to-be-slaughtered-rescued-by-netizens.html

  • Teacher in China

    Dog meat is popular up here in Dongbei too, but I’ve never seen any getting tortured or abused. Not saying that means it doesn’t happen, but I’ve never seen anything like what I saw in that other post where the dudes were abusing them to get higher prices and stuff like that. Eat what you want, just don’t abuse and torture it before you eat it.

  • vincent_t

    Your comment will be known as “The last words of Vlad”

    • mr.wiener

      Now known as “Vlad the Impaled”.

  • Bluex

    You have a clash of ideology here, one that defend the notion that dogs are human’s closest buddy and should never end up in a stew pot, and another one based on cultural thing that is still thriving. You can’t directly say which is right and which is wrong unless you have an ideology bias here. And since most people here doesn’t want to choose either extreme, they just choose the middle of both.

  • Renjick

    I take it Yulin is more of a “third-world shithole” part of China, rather than the “first-world aspiring” part of China?

  • Rick in China

    I’ve eaten dog. I had it in a hotpot and while it wasn’t the easiest thing to convince myself to taste, did, it was ordered/arranged by whomever was hosting the lunch my girlfriend at the time took me to in some country side town near Chongqing. I also saw the dogs they kept for other people’s meals – the dogs were all that one weird mutt breed of ‘not really a pet’ type dog, not sure how to describe it.. seems it’s a breed bred for eating. Anyways, I would not personally _order_ dog, but there’s a difference between hating someone who has eaten something you disagree with and someone who fights for the right to torture something, ala the ‘bad side’ in this article. Surely the foreigners there aren’t returning for their standard dog meal, but rather, trying something the locals do with the hopes of understanding or broadening their perspective in some way – ie. having an open mind.

    That all being said, everyone is afraid of internet tough guys, so please don’t arrange an ‘accident’ for me! Please.

  • Jahar

    No you didn’t. and no you won’t.

  • wnsk

    You have a death-wish, I get it. But please don’t pretend (even to yourself) that you’re some kind of hero.

  • G in Xiamen

    Them Yunlin-ren just got bit in the ass.

    Eat dog, but let them have a peaceful death.

  • Kai

    The most accurate way to put is that there is a sea of criticism AND a sea of defensiveness. What we have above is some of the comments on one article on one site on the entire Chinese internet while the controversy is at its apex.

    http://www.chinasmack.com/faq#faq-03

    A lot of cS articles also leave me feeling rather disappointed, depressed, or demoralized. Bad news gets a lot of attention.

    I wouldn’t say the general attitude is “in defense of animal torture” nor do I think the translated comments reflect that either. Re-read them. Generally, we’re seeing a lot of people defending the consumption of dog meat, not the abuse of dogs. They are being defensive against what they see as a growing number of media and people in China scrutinizing and criticizing their culture, traditions, and way of life. Some people are unable to separate criticism of abusive dog peddlers from criticism of eating dog meat, and this goes for both sides.

    If you want to feel your optimism with the “forward-progression of China” is deserved, think about how such domestic media coverage and social controversy wasn’t nearly so big just a few years ago and probably wouldn’t have existed even a decade ago. That they exist now says something about the changing attitudes and norms of the general population in modern China. That should reassure you.

  • Irvin

    5mins of glory, a life time ban from china. If you really do it, maybe you’re brave, but by no means smart.

  • Irvin

    Another growing problem is dognapping, my family recently got their dog kidnapped in broad daylight.

    Eating dogs isn’t inherently bad, they are a source of food just like chicken and pigs. What the government needs to do is to regulate the process and maybe only allow domesticated dogs that are solely bred for their meat to allowed to be sell.

  • 5,000 years of uncivilization

    You obviously know nothing about me so piss off!

    • Confucius

      I know enough about you from your chosen alias, sadly enough. You’ve obviously got a bone to pick with the Chinese, so you look and find the perfect hate-fostering forum for it and find your bigotry confirmed. I think that is what the KKK does too, but hey, freedom of speech right? Or are you now in favour of censorship?

      • 5,000 years of uncivilization

        Don’t judge me because of that. Do you know how many times i’ve heard “China has 5,000 years of civilization” when i just meet someone? It sounds like a programmed robot. We all know people have been living in China for at least 60,000 years but when you see so much environmental degradation every single day from ordinary citizens who just don’t seem to care, excuse me, but something needs to be said. Something needs to change. If you really love China, you should accept this and address the problem. I choose to distance myself from racists and speak out against them, hoping they too will change one day. I say all this because we should all have the freedom of speech, including China. You are forgiven for passing false judgement on me. No go forth and do good.

        • Confucius

          Ok, I accept that. And I think it is a little rich to say “5000 years” when 2000 of those years are unrecorded mythology plus some prehistoric artefacts. I’m glad that you’re anti-racist. When the floodgates are opened with the advent of Internet forums, the general hate levels in the world rose overnight. Every hater gets to live in their hate bubble and constantly reconfirming their hate from the same members. We used to look down on those people, now we think it is all ok because we should all have first amendment rights even if we’re not American. I do think you should accept that the Chinese have an image problem and many will counter that by talking about their past exploits including their long recorded history. Give it 30 years and they will be talking about their 30 years of innovation rather than 5000 years of civilisation. Btw, just so you know, the reason I’m using ‘Confucius’ as an alias is because I keep reading people quoting Confucius without a clue and it gets my back up too so I get where you’re coming from.

          • 5,000 years of uncivilization

            Agreed. I try never to judge someone before i actually meet them but you know it isn’t easy sometimes. I don’t know what you do but i try to set a good example every day and i’m still often misunderstood but i haven’t given up on China. Cheers.

  • Kai

    Hopefully you’ll see those new comments and perspectives instead of the usual censuring that seems to go on in this website. It seems that you’re only allowed to comment if you express personal hatred for the mainland Chinese and only allowed to abuse those who try to defend the opposite view. I challenge the mods to allow this comment through,

    What are you talking about?

    If you’re complaining about your own comments being “censored”, they’re not. They just have to be manually approved AS CLEARLY EXPLAINED IN OUR COMMENT POLICY:

    http://www.chinasmack.com/faq#comment-policy

    …which is clearly linked to in a big reminder right above the comments section.

    Stop using a fake email address and register a Disqus account if you want your comments to be automatically approved and published. Otherwise, stop with this ignorant nonsense about us mods being biased against people defending China/Chinese and censoring their comments.

    • Confucius

      Kai, I respect you from your comments on this website you’re probably the only consistently rational and unbiased one here (yes, I also decry the ultra-ProChina ones, no cigars for naming the few that regularly comment predictably here), but seriously, mate, you are fighting a losing battle and it must be very tiring doing what you do. I’m sorry that my posts are not as easy for you to approve, I’m guessing you also believe that all Americans so show their IDs or driver’s licences when they vote? Anyways, apologies, I’ll stop accusing you guys of censorship until the other mods are on.

      • Kai

        Thank you for your praise.

        Your comments are not easy or hard to approve, they simply need to be approved and a moderator is not always online to approve them the very moment you post them.

        If your comment appears soon after you post them, then it usually means a mod is online reviewing the Pending queue at the moment and approving them as they come in. That is the case today. I was approving your comments as I saw them. However, if your comments don’t appear soon, it just means they are still in the Pending queue waiting for one of us to go through them. This will always be the case so long as you use an unregistered Guest account.

        You have several times now accused us of censoring your comments and I have several times now replied to you that none of your comments have been censored. Try to understand why we mods are incredulous about your repeated accusations, because you’ve accused us of censorship when you’ve been ignorant of how the Disqus commenting system works despite there being ample information about it in our FAQ.

        Please review our comment policy.

        There is far more “censorship” of anti-Chinese bashing by anonymous trolls by us mods than there is censorship of anything else (except spam). You should not be accusing any of the “other mods” of censorship at all. If you think they are, email us with your case, but make sure it is a good one that takes into account how Disqus works.

        • KamikaziPilot

          I realize you mods must have to look at a whole bunch of verbal diarrhea and decide what’s allowed to be posted. Based on what gets through, I can only guess at the garbage you mods have to read through that you decide not to allow. Thanks for sparing us at least some of the stupidity that would otherwise get through without the presence of you mods.

      • mr.wiener

        I believe that is what is called a qualified apology.

        • Confucius

          I’m sorry that I accused you mods for censoring.

          I do think you need to censor more of those haters to balance out this forum. There’s a lot of opinion-based criticisms on this forum that runs in the vein of “[this article] shows how all Chinese are just greedy, ill-mannered, stupid, cruel, genetically-inferior, brainwashed bunch of savages”. The same justifications people used to justify ethnic cleansing, racial abuse and exploitation for self-interest throughout human history. Don’t be a part of it.

          • mr.wiener

            The comments here reflect those of the Chinese netizins, for this reason overly political correctness is not enforced, but we are here to facilitate the free flow of ideas and thoughts so we try to weed out the worst of the comments which you [thankfully] will never see.
            The first 2 sentences in your post are an interesting juxtaposition. I must say. We censor out the crazies from both sides, 2 weeks ago some people thought we were being too lenient on pro-China posters…..I guess we must be doing a good job then, although I think I’m getting splinters in my arse from straddling the fence :)

  • Don’t Believe the Hype

    while originally that may have been the context, the phrase no long carries that meaning. If someone says 3rd world today they aren’t talking about non-aligned countries from the cold war era

  • Don’t Believe the Hype

    i’m picturing you (a troll) confined in a UK cage right now and I feel perfectly fine, so maybe you are right

    • Confucius

      Right, so anyone who don’t conform to your bigotry is a troll, or fights for the wumao army. I’m glad you have the insight to agree with me at least.

      • Don’t Believe the Hype

        lol, a real noble hero, defending his country by deflecting blame onto others, real nice

    • narsfweasels

      Don’t be mean to Confucius! He’s typing with his mouth full and his view partially obscured by the pubic mound of his boss.

  • Don’t Believe the Hype

    are you speaking English?

    • Confucius

      No, I’m writing in English, and since this is the language of my people, so if you’re not understanding me, then you need to go back to where you came from and learn the language of your superior. Btw, let me guess, you’re a yank, right? You guys can’t speak proper English and can’t spell right but you think it’s everyone else’s fault for making you stupid and have trouble understanding other people. We gave you your language, get it?

      • “can’t spell right”

        “Right” is an adjective. Only an adverb can modify a verb like “spell”.

        Just a friendly reminder from your neighborhood yank.

        By the way, weren’t you just complimenting Kai a few hours ago? You realize he’s a inferior, illiterate yank, right?

        • Kai

          LoL, Matt, take this as just a friendly ribbing for the (continued!) irony in this discussion:

          By the way, weren’t you just complimenting Kai a few hours ago? You realize he’s a inferior, illiterate yank, right?

          • Ah darn it. I originally had “a dreaded, inferior yank”, but then took out “dreaded” and moved up “inferior” so that I could add in “illiterate” at the end. Shame on me for not proof-reading like I usually do.

            Still, the fact that it is a humble yank who has pointed out my sandhi error nonetheless affirms my point that we are not completely illiterate beasts.

          • Confucius

            Completely is an adverb. It doesn’t qualify an adjective such as “illiterate”, or if you’re missing a comma, a noun such as “beasts”. I’m glad we are sharing grammatical tips. You are wise to be humble. Jesus showed the Romans how it can be done. Now go forth and spread the word to your people.

          • mr.wiener

            @disqus_sZe140t687:disqus and @Confucius.
            What is the collective noun for a group of grammar Nazis?
            Best answer receive a ticket to the big doggy BBQ in Yulin.

  • Don’t Believe the Hype

    lol, you haven’t even registered/hiding behind closed curtains and you expect people to take you seriously. Afraid we will see your comments for what they really are? Hate mongering on others just to prove that the mainland is faultless. Maybe if you would just stop deflecting everyone’s comments onto others people/countries they would take your arguments more seriously and have a serious debate. The fact that you cannot self-reflect is revealing.

    • Confucius

      Right, so you’re registered and not hiding behind an alias? Wow, you are the most amazing righteous man God has given to humanity. Chill, mate, you’re part of the majority who are bigots on this forum, I’m sure there will be plenty of people abusing my comments, you don’t have to get all inferiority complex on me.

    • Kai

      You REALLY do not have the moral high ground in this…

  • Don’t Believe the Hype

    There are plenty of activists and organizations in the west against animal abuse and laws against such things. It is not as urgent when street peddlers aren’t torturing animals on the street. do you really not know this or are you out on a troll again/ deflecting?

    • Confucius

      You’re feeding the troll, lad, stop feeding the troll. No, wait, hold on, are you giving us some equivalence argument here? Stop talking about the US or the UK or whatever the West is, you’re deflecting, mate, we are on this forum to talk about the fuckin’ Chinese. I’ll just deflect your argument about big cosmetic and pharmaceutical companies torturing and experimenting on animals, even monkeys that share 98% of our DNA every day on a multi-billion buck scale so we can focus on the street peddles in Yulin, China once a year. Mmmm love that troll food.

  • bujiebuke

    I take it from your comment and question to the mods that your fairly new here. I’ve read that Chinasmack translates Chinese comments from popular blogs like weibo, also it’s intended for Fauna to learn English. What we actually get is generally grimy sensationalized stories representing the worst of mainland China. Consequently, bitter expats who boldly uprooted themselves from their suburban lifestyle, use this forum as a platform to vent their anger, frustration, and the indignity that they’ve had to suffer while living with a bunch of “Chinamen”.

    • don mario

      bitter expats? any non ignorant expat who has been in china for a considerable amount of time will have seen the true face of china. and its not pretty. the majority of of long term expats you can label as bitter, but i would just say they are facing the reality.

      • bujiebuke

        Seeing the “true face of China” speaks to my point that young westerners who choose to live in China have a distorted and completely unrealistic expectation of a country undergoing social and technological transformation, a society on the mend from over a century of war inside and out, and a lost generation that was deprived of basic human rights including rudimentary education.

        It’s one thing for a well meaning traveler to point out observations that are at odds to the standards of the 21st century, e.g. the lack of universal suffrage, a balanced justice system, a political system that serves the many, not the few. It’s another to jump at every sensational news and finger point, “See! Look at those gawd damn peasants! Bunch of dumb Chinamen and their ignorant 5,000 years of whateverthefuck!”. You see the difference?

        • don mario

          i see what you’re saying. i think its slightly more complicated though. i think most will go in with an open mind without too much expectation. i certainly did as i had heard exaggerated good and bad things so it was a chance to make my own mind up.

          after you are there things can seem pretty great, i know they do for a lot of expats. this is the point where they need to educate themselves on china. if ignorance takes over at this point they are setting up for a big fall down the line when reality kicks in.

          • bujiebuke

            I appreciate what your saying and I’ll amend that I don’t think every westerner who goes to an Asian country are single-minded and uniformed. The ones who think “teaching English” is mere euphemism for their johnsons to be serviced by an exotic orient. Several of my classmates from “Chinese 101” were thoughtful critical thinkers and have gone to teach English in mainland China. I only wish their voices were more represented on this site.

  • don mario

    lol, optimism of forward progression….china? are you somewhat new to china?

  • NightKnight

    I’m for legalizing drugs, not only the soft ones, but also the hardcore heroin.

  • Dr Sun

    alcohol and cannabis are drugs

  • mr.wiener

    links?

    • Confucius

      You could just google it yourself. Try using search terms like “cattle”, “abuse”, “Australia”, “affect trade” etc.

      • mr.wiener

        I’m lazy , and I have to go off to a trade show and find a source of non-animal sausage skins now. Play nice with the other kids and leave me a few beers in the fridge.

      • Teacher in China

        We could. But I’ve always felt that the burden is on the person making the claim to provide the links. Don’t feel like I should have to waste my time looking for something I’m not even sure is true.

  • bang2tang

    LMAO he could earn extra cash from his blog.

  • Teacher in China

    Really eh? I’m surprised by that. Can you provide a link?
    Of course, you could easily make the argument that mass “farmed” chickens and other animals everywhere else in the world are essentially being abused anyway, given the conditions that they live in. I still view that differently from those bastards on the street in the other post doing it just to taunt people and get money, though.

  • Teacher in China

    Not sure what happened to my original reply to this….. anyway, here we go again.

    Really, eh? I’m surprised by that. Do you have a link to that article? I’d wager that’s more the exception than the rule though.

    Of course, it could also be argued that any mass “farmed” animal is being abused all over the world because of the conditions they’re being forced to live in.

    But I still view both of those things as less evil than those bastards in the other post beating and torturing the dogs to taunt or extort more money from people.

  • Hateration

    Why is there never any video of these encounters–only reports.

  • Xio Gen

    Those westerners are disgusting.

  • masonman

    I don’t think meat eaters ever taste very good. Only eat vegetarians of any species. (Try to avoid human, though)

  • Xio Gen

    I meant the Westerners who tried the dog meat. They’re disgusting.

  • Xio Gen

    I meant the Westerners that tried the dog meat.

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