Dog Dragged Behind Truck, Netizens React

Dog Dragged Behind Truck, Netizens React

One internet user has released pictures of a pickup truck dragging a dog behind it. One can see that at first that the dog is running, but the more the dog runs the more effort it is exerting until finally it can’t keep up. Eyewitnesses say that the dog was dragged to death. One netizen called the man a beast, and said that “I’m not a dog person, but you should have a moral limit as a human being.” Another netizen said “I am not a dog person, but I request that the driver be dragged this way for a bit too.”

Source: Netease

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  • WghUk

    This can only be socially accepted in China.

    • How is it socially accepted you idiot? everyone is disagreeing with what he did, you should read on weibo about how many people are cursing this guy and cant believe what he has done to the dog.

      • WghUk

        Disagreeing and standing there minding own business isn’t enough, this is typical of Chinese people. Doing nothing and knowing nothing will be done is technically the same as accepting this behaviour.

        • Alex Dương

          So what do Chinese people have to do beyond “mere” disagreeing for you to be satisfied?

          • Vance

            Well, here he would be charged with animal cruelty and at least fined.

          • David

            You already know the answer. In ANY western country people would have stopped his truck and dragged him out (and if he were lucky only hold him for the police). People here break car windows when pets are left in the hot sun let alone drag through the street.

          • Alex Dương

            That’s a pretty strong claim. What about diffusion of responsibility? And even when people do break car windows, sometimes “no good deed goes unpunished.”

          • David

            What does that have to do with people in China simply watching this happen? If you refuse to acknowledge there is something wrong with a society simply watching this sort of mindless and selfish cruelty there there is nothing else to discuss.

          • Alex Dương

            David, don’t talk about “any Western country” if you only want to talk about China. IMO, at the extreme, WghUK’s reasoning is what terrorists use to justify their attacks on civilians.

            “It’s not enough that you disagree with your government’s policies. It’s not enough that you voted for someone else. If you aren’t actively opposing them, you’re accepting them. So you’re a fair target.”

          • David

            I really don’t understand the context of your comment. We are talking about how individuals act in reference to dragging a dog behind a truck. What is this about terrorism? I do not consider acting like a douche, or watching while others act in a cruel and inhuman way, terrorism. It is disgusting but not terrorism.

          • Alex Dương

            Yes, that is what we are talking about. WghUK is saying that it isn’t enough that Chinese people disagree or condemn what happened here. They have to do more than that for him to not criticize.

            OK, the extreme form of that thinking – it’s not enough to disagree – is the excuse terrorists give, which I summarized. I’m not saying WghUK is condoning terrorism. I’m simply saying that line of thinking is not fair.

        • Can I just ask you something, have you actually ever been to China? this place has too many people who for one DOES NOT know what real Chinese people feel and think like, plus two most have NEVER been to China in there lives but feel its perfect for them to come and criticize the country now knowing what the people are like here rather just listen to all the crap they see on the western news.

          • Mihel

            most have NEVER been to China in there lives but feel its perfect for them to come and criticize the country

            Lol so people can criticize a place only if they have visited it personally? So we shouldn’t criticise Guantanamo? Russia? Turkey? Israel? North Korea?

            This site is mostly visited by expats that works/have worked in China btw.

            all the crap they see on the western news.

            For all the flaws cS has, it’s not “western news”, the link to the original chinese article is always provided.

          • All im saying is mots people criticize a person or place without knowing it personally from there own opinion or experience which pisses me off, just like the BBC for example, they say so much hate about China and I have never heard most of it to be true and I’ve lived here for 11 years! but most of the west believe the crap and therefor think China is really that bad when its not true. Of course the people are not perfect, but neither is the west in that matter.

          • Suju Queen

            As a foreign born Chinese, I will never want to be associate with the mainland Chinese. The minority of their comrades had already craved an image so bad that there are not entirely welcomed in most countries. At least, in my country, we don’t really like them here.

            While, I do not nitpick the entire population in China but a typical Chinese can be describe as, Rude, Loud, Lack of hygiene practise and love to fight when angry.

            I have being to China on numerous occasions to visit friend and work and I just cannot enjoy seeing a kid peeing inside the train…only in China and I don’t get why it is difficult for parents to alight the next stop for bathroom call…Only in China, I want witness this..seriously..

            There are plenty of videos uploaded on youtube such as
            Woman beating each other up with clothing all torn away, shitting in the public, fighting over a seat in the train , fighting over where to seat on plane..etc…

            As a Chinese, am so a shame that my ethnic people can be so disgusting..Ah, you are Chinese, so you eat dog meat ? Sorry, only Mainland Chinese eat DOG MEAT..I DON’T …lol

          • Mihel

            The minority of their comrades had already craved an image so bad that there are not entirely welcomed in most countries. […] I do not nitpick the entire population in China but a typical Chinese can be describe as, Rude, Loud, Lack of hygiene practise and love to fight when angry.

            While I agree that some chinese people have contributed to create a bad reputation abroad, I don’t think this has to do with them being rude, loud or having poor hygiene. I would argue that most chinese abroad are perceived as quiet and polite, if a bit aloof.
            For how I see it, it has less to do with negative personality traits than it has to do with work ethic.

          • Suju Queen

            I would second to your statement if I refer Chinese living in the US or Australia (those Chinese are more of a affluent group, so their behaviour are not as bad) I used to live with the Chinese in Australia during my uni days – the only thing I couldn’t stand was their hygiene standard..otherwise, I agree, there are more of the polite ones (at least, there don’t raise their hand when they failed to win an argument…lol)..

          • David

            If you are talking about Chinese who LIVE overseas I would agree. Most are thought of in a positive, if quiet light. However, mainland Chinese who are vacationing overseas are a WHOLE different story. They have the worst reputations of any country around as bad tourists. Every country I have been to (many) when I ask the hotel or cafe owners who are the worst tourists they ALWAYS say the

            Chinese. They like the money the Chinese spend, don’t get me wrong, but they dislike how they act.

          • Suju Queen

            Yes, that is what make them so unpopular anywhere else in the world.
            I recently came across a couple who berated at a waitress when all she asked was not to bring outside food into the restaurant. Holala, the couple yelled at the waitress, WE HAVE MONEY, blar blar..!!! When the public interfered to try and keep them down alittle
            Lord and behold, yelled back by saying ARE YOU CHINESE ?? NO PRIDE IN YOU WHY HELPED A NON CHINESE…I couldn’t believe such terrible people who stepped foot in my country behaved as if that entire restaurant belongs to them….OMG!!!

            No way, a non China born Chinese can closely associate themselves with the Mainland Chinese – their thinking and behaviour are..OMG!!!

          • James

            you are a judgmental bitch and you are no better than them.

          • Alex Dương

            “You are no better than them” would have been enough.

          • James

            gotta keep it 100

          • Suju Queen

            Your comment was not relevant at all when you are just another idiot yourself. A pot calling a kettle black..lol..

          • James

            “Your comment was not relevant at all when you are just another idiot yourself.”
            this sentence makes no sense.

            you are a disgusting judgemental shallow ditsy person that act like you are better than them just because of where you are born. You can pretend that you are not associated with them but nothing you can do can prevent that. You are basically insulting yourself. you have no shame and it is just sad..how ironic that a pot calling a kettle black is the perfect phrase to describe yourself..lol..

          • Suju Queen

            Trying hard to be patriotic ? Nobody is pretending about
            anything when my personal opinion had been the most truthful resentment I had towards the mainland Chinese. Yes, I am Chinese by ethnic group and I am completely shameful towards the Mainland Chinese for failing to preserve a thousand years of moral culture that had in the past glorified the Kingdom of China. I didn’t know a thousand years of great ancient civilization would produced many more brazen bastard in modern days that sell fake meat, poisonous milk powder, recycled Oil , etc Mainland Chinese can cruelty schemed against their own people, so why would I never be shame of not wanted to be associated with the Mainland Chinese. Wanna take rock sing song, scum further away from me… you have no right to judge, 因为你不配…!

          • James

            patriotic? quick to conclusions and quick to judge. Like i said, a shallow pretentious and judgmental bitch that’s quick to judge. Ugly disgusting person inside is what you are.

          • David

            maybe you should take your medication before going on the internet.

          • James

            maybe you should go fk yourself before going on the internet.

          • David

            Wow, witty. Yes, I have long hair. any other brilliant observations? At least I have enough balls to actually show a picture of myself.

          • Ricky Sue

            I agree with most of your views. I am from New Zealand and we, the local Chinese feel the same about the behaviour of some mainland Chinese people as well. Some say Chinese behaviour in China is 50 years behind the Japanese, at times I think it is more that 50 years. My friend from Nangjing hated the Japanese, but when she went to Tokyo last year for two weeks she developed a new found respect for the Japanese. The problem with some of the Chinese thinking is they have the “me, me, me, me , me… attitude.” They need to think about other people as well not just themselves.

          • Suju Queen

            Yes, I finally found someone who understood me completely. Their, me, me, me and me attitude is a great turn off to me. I even have a Chinese friend saying this to me, why should you not hate the Japanese? They invaded your country as well…. OMG!!!! Must all Chinese remember only the History in the most negative way and always on a hateful heart ready to take revenge?

            Always wanna win in arguments or else we will witness their Taiji/Kung Fu skill in action. I always wonder does the mainland Chinese ever understood the meaning of disgrace ? I doubt it, most of them care is just to win in everything even without having a need to maintain their image in the public.

            What else can’t be done by them – fighting in the train/plane/bus over a seat, defecated on a plane walkway, pee in the open public, sell fake food, poisonous milk powder, etc…We are Chinese, yet mainland Chinese set themselves way apart from the rest in the most embarrassing way. Yet, their egoistic nature doesn’t allow them to admit how their behaviour had brought shame to the entire ethnic group…

          • Mihel

            All im saying is mots people criticize a person or place without knowing it personally
            […]
            most of the west believe the crap

            Following your logic, you can’t criticise “most of the west” because you haven’t presonally been to “most of the west”.

          • Ricky Sue

            This behaviour is not acceptable in any country or society. It is inhumane! I am Chinese and have been to China, I accept social differences between countries, but there are limitations for which one can morally accept or not accept.

          • Suju Queen

            I agree with you

        • James

          you probably would have done the same, nothing.

    • mr.wiener

      Yet breastfeeding is not apparently…

    • Taddious

      If you keep trying, maybe everyone will hate on China with you. Keep it up WghUk! Let the hate fuel you! Let it wash over you, like a blanket of lava!

      The butthurt is strong with you.

  • isnt that a PSB (Public Security Bureau) truck pulling it? these PSB type are the special police used by the government who are violent and usually drive around in a truck or pickup like the one shown in the image.

  • sometimes i wanna do cruel things too.
    there is an old big dog stays around our village house for food all the time, i wanna call up several friends kill and eat it. i never tried dog meat, so curious!

  • Suju Queen

    Korean and Chinese eat Dog meat, yeah (Korean and Chinese shared the same ancestry) so am not even surprised that their taste bud of certain food is similar. However, my comparison is Mainland Chinese vs Foreign Born Chinese – We don’t eat Dog meat and most countries don’t legalise the consumption of dog meat.

    Why Mainlander wanna be unique by eating almost everything on earth, even human foetus can be consume..totally disgusted..

    • Alex Dương

      I understood guest’s comment differently. I don’t think he’s saying “Korea does it too.” The point is more general: perception of what is food and what isn’t can vary by culture. I don’t eat dog meat, but I don’t look down upon anyone who does because you have to ask yourself, why are you icked out by eating dog meat?

      • Suju Queen

        Is has nothing to look down on those who prefer to eat things that the majority don’t . It is the curiosity of the majority who cannot deduce the underlying reasoning of consuming Dog meat – Why this meat ?

        • Alex Dương

          Meat is “the flesh of animals as used for food.” So dog meat is the flesh of dogs as used for food. What’s the problem?

        • KamikaziPilot

          Why this meat? Why not? Why eat cows or pigs or sheep. Some Hindu Indians don’t eat cows, Muslims don’t eat pigs, does that make it wrong for Americans to eat those things? And yes you are vilifying those that eat dog.

          • Suju Queen

            Is not illegal to eat dog meat in China so is not illegal to vilify those who eat dog meat. Must I ask permission to express opinion ? No, I don’t need to..lol

            If you are American, perhaps, you should campaign against states such as New York state to allow dog meat consumption. Come on, just accept the fact, that majority of the population in the world DO NOT EAT DOG MEAT. If your ego is rocket high to swallow the reality, protest against people like me, cos it is only me you are dealing here in this forum – there are many more out there who can’t wait to trash you…lol..

          • Alex Dương

            You haven’t answered the question, though it has been asked of you several times: why are you icked out by dog meat?

          • Suju Queen

            Sorry, are you speaking to me in your Urban language where only American embraces it ? Icked out ???

          • Alex Dương

            What do you find especially gross about dog meat?

          • KamikaziPilot

            I’ll answer for her. She thinks it’s wrong because the majority of the world doesn’t consume dog meat, so automatically it’s wrong. Period, end of story. Not sure if she feels the same about things like fois gras though, as she seems the type to pick and chose according to her agenda. BTW I’m against dog meat because of what I hear is the unnecessarily cruel treatment of some of the dogs before they’re killed, but not because it’s dog meat.

          • Alex Dương

            I also think that’s her answer, but just in case it’s not, I didn’t want her to say that I straw manned her. I like dogs, and so for that reason, I don’t eat dog meat, but I admit it’s not a good reason. Plenty of stuff on Youtube showing that pet pigs can be very charming.

          • KamikaziPilot

            Don’t you think her reasoning is ridiculous? I can see not personally wanting to eat dog meat for whatever reason, but to vilify people who do just because a majority of the world doesn’t eat dog meat is totally bigoted and ethnocentric. I can also see vilifying people if they torture the dogs before they die, as I’ve heard some dog meat sellers do. At least that’s a logical reason.

          • Alex Dương

            I don’t think it’s good reasoning. Like we all heard when we were kids, if everybody else jumped off a roof, would we do it too?

          • Zappa Frank

            i met another italian guy with a pig pet in shanghai… looking at his posts on weixin i feel really guilty.. but i end up eating parma ham anyway…

          • Alex Dương

            I didn’t think they were cute and lovable until I saw some videos. They wowed with me how trainable they can be.

          • Suju Queen

            hypocrisy doesn’t run here
            I cannot look into my dog eyes and say, I love you but I support those who eat you…lol…

          • Alex Dương

            So that is your position. OK. Do you eat beef, chicken, or pork?

          • Suju Queen

            Yup, I do, but I don’t have them at home..if I have, I wont consume and probably eat veggie…you don’t have dog so you are ok to those who eat dog..?? because you don’t look down on them and these are the people whom you support.

            http://www.petitionhub.org/Prosecute-Cruel-Couple-For-Tormenting-And-Destroying-An-Innocent-Dog-For-His-Meat-While-Recording-The-Ordeal-t-3336

            You eat Chicken, Pork, Beef just like me but added on one more point, you even support those who eat Dog Meat..in here we stand, different position..equally cruel…lol

          • Alex Dương

            Then what I said about you is completely accurate. You think of yourself as righteous, but your attitude is simply, “if I don’t see it, then I don’t care.”

            Also, I never said I support eating dog meat. I said I don’t judge. I have asked you questions because I wanted to read what you have to say instead of putting words in your mouth. Please have the basic courtesy to do the same for me.

          • KamikaziPilot

            It’s pretty obvious she’s one of those immigrants who feels the immediate need to conform to the dominant culture. Whether it be because of shame, fear, personal gain or some other reason I don’t know. I just wonder what will happen to her when it’s her who doesn’t conform to what the “majority” thinks. Maybe then she’ll know what it feels like to be vilified for being different than the majority. I have in mind some historical situations I’d compare her attitude to but I won’t say it since I’m not sure I want to go that far.

          • Alex Dương
          • KamikaziPilot

            It seems he recognizes how unhealthy it is when a minority culture feels the need to abandon who they are for the purpose of fitting in with the dominant culture. At least he recognizes this, since so many don’t even seem to recognize it. I know we each have our own identity, and there’s a lot of leeway in what’s acceptable to self-identify as, but when you start abandoning and being ashamed of who you are for the purpose of fitting in with another culture, that’s where it becomes very negative and unhealthy. I’m not really an advocate of being proud of whatever race or ethnicity you are, because it’s not really any accomplishment to be born, but no one should be ashamed of themselves. I’m talking about things they have no control over, like race, gender, sexual orientation, height, etc. Of course it is sometimes acceptable to be ashamed of your actions.

          • Alex Dương

            Thanks. I share your thoughts on this, especially “no one should be ashamed of themselves.”

          • guest

            I have eaten dog meat. I would also love a pet pig, hmm pet duck maybe even although I love to eat duck. As I already pointed out there is/are dog specie(s) bred as livestock and not as pets.

            As for your petition you mention is nothing but hypocritical pet lovers or ranting veg*ns, given that the author is an animal rights activist its most likely the later, also he would be the kind of person who says your barbaric, backwards etc etc for eating pig, chicken beef etc. It is hypocrisy because you agree with the eating of the flesh of one animal but not the flesh of another. You are being prejudice against one species against another which may fall under speciesism.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism

            You can argue that the meat from one animal may personalty taste better, or its cheaper or you would rather have the animal as a pet, yourself, but its not fair to judge other countries citizens by your standards when they have laws that allow them to eat animals that are banned for consumption in your country.

            But in the end unless eat dog meat IS illegal in Vietnam or they have broken Vietnam’s animal cruelty laws nothing is going to happen and to be perfectly honest Vietnamese police have will have far better things.

            Case example here, New Zealand- dog killed and eaten no charges could be pressed as no law was broken.

            http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/08/18/new.zealand.dog.bbq/index.html

          • Suju Queen

            With the exception of China and Korea; most countries are into pro human-dog speciesism and because of that, you can’t have Dog meat been “sold” as staple food in the public. Therefore, your definition as “livestock” applies only to a small group of people who Antis against human-dog speciesism.

            “its not fair to judge other countries citizens by your standards when they have laws that allow them to eat animals that are banned for consumption in your country”

            What is so unfair of me to judge those in China and Korea?
            I did not stop them from eating , or, must I ask permission to judge the Mainland Chinese and Korean for eating dog meat ? If yes, then why are you judging my opinion without seeking my permission? There’s no way to define in words what is fair and what is unfair.

            Don’t bring this issue too far, let’s consider Dog meat consumption in Asia Pacific, name me countries (apart from China and Korea) dog meat consumption is official? Is not a crime to eat Dog meat then why not regulate it as a staple food ? What is the underlying reason behind for most countries of not wanting to do it ?

            If your reasoning sound so logical and accepting to the generate public, then you won’t bump into me here arguing over a Dog meat issue, for I shall be eating dog meat steak happily as well.

            You can have all your reasoning point after point,
            but it will never change the mind set people have towards those who consume Dog meat.

          • guest

            “Don’t bring this issue too far, let’s consider Dog meat consumption in
            Asia Pacific, name me countries (apart from China and Korea) dog meat
            consumption is official? Is not a crime to eat Dog meat then why not
            regulate it as a staple food ? What is the underlying reason behind for
            most countries of not wanting to do it ?”

            Parts of India, Vietnam and several African countries.

            As for regulation as a staple food what do you mean? A lot of food in any countries are not considered staples or they are not sold regularity or at all in supermarkets but at market stalls, specialised shops, as already pointed out. In some cases they are considered a delicacy, and allowed under the laws of that land, and hence its consumption is official and legal. For it to be sold as a delicacy there must be a demand or need for it.

            As for judging you can or you can’t however I do find you hypocritical one moment your saying you are happy to eat a dog steak, if it was legal and accepting the other it seems your saying you don’t support people who do.

          • KamikaziPilot

            Your logic that just because the MAJORITY OF THE WORLD doesn’t eat dog meat makes it wrong is just illogical. The majority of the world doesn’t have the death penalty, I guess those that do are wrong according to you. The majority of the world doesn’t eat fois gras, so those that do are wrong. It’s pretty sad that you went to university and you don’t have anything beyond elementary reasoning. Okay you have a right to your opinion just as I do. And my opinion is that you’re ashamed of being Chinese and have a severe inferiority complex, just like a lot of other Chinese. You will never be able to escape being Chinese, as much as you hate it.

          • Suju Queen

            I don’t know should I laugh at your saying or cry over it.

            Assumption
            —————-
            I don’t like to be associate myself with certain acquaintance (same ethnic grp) whom I cannot click —– Ohhhh, because I am ashamed of being a Chinese and have inferior complex over them…OMG!!!! Your logic is truly heaven…hahahahahahaha

            Question One
            ——————
            Is Dog Meat available in any super market in your home town ? If no, WHY so ? You have not even explain why only Pork, Lamb, Beef, Chicken are the common meat sold on shelves. In your saying, Dog meat is just another meat, then why it is not sold as a commercialised food like any other meats as mentioned ?

          • KamikaziPilot

            Like I said, you’re ashamed to be Chinese. And this coming from a person who isn’t even Chinese and has no love for Chinese people in general. It’s your REASONING that makes me feel this way, not just because you’re against eating dogs. If I were you I’d cry, for having such low self-esteem. Why is there no dog meat where I live? Because people in America generally don’t eat dog. Why is dog meat available in China? Because some people there eat dog meat. You reason like an 8 year old child. You have SEVERE INFERIORITY COMPLEX, common among Chinese people. I sure wouldn’t want to be you. I’m sure other Chinese feel the same, unless they have a similar mentality with you. Oh and FYI, America isn’t the “majority” of the world. China has 4 times as many people as America. India almost as many as China. Just for what you said I think I’ll try to spread the word in America that Chinese people eat dogs, cats and monkeys, just to give people like you a bad name, haha. Then you can hate Chinese people even more.

          • Suju Queen

            Hahahaha, butthurt all over…a man without calibre…lol…lol..
            bye…hahahahahahahahahaha…

          • KamikaziPilot

            Hahahaha, I know you hate it but you will always be Chinese until the day you die. No matter how much you speak Chinglish, how much you hate your fellow Chinese and love America and how much you love dogs. Have fun hating yourself for the rest of your life loser, lol . . . lol . . hahahahahahaha, bye. BTW I’m going to kill and eat a dog next time I go to China, just for you, hahahahaha :)

          • guest

            Goose, peasant, vixen isn’t sold at my local supermarket , or supermarkets nationality either. There not common meat too or commercialised. But a few people still eat them. The reason why my supermarkets sell Lamb, Beef, Chicken is basically they are in the businesses to make money, having a rare meat on sell is likely to decrease profits due to wastage. Plus, you have stuck up people boycotting and animal rights activists protesting which again will cause lost of profits due to people avoiding the supermarket.

            So saying that because its not sold at a supermarket(s) is simply a false analogy.

          • James

            Suju Queef, there you are being all high and mighty with your pretentious judgements again. Do you not see the fallacies in your logic? The majority of the population do not eat lamb or kangaroo either. Nor do they eat rats. The MAJORITY is also not vegetarian. Is it your place to judge based on this? No, you do not see the fallacies of your logic because you are too stupid and shallow. Please just go talk about your Korean drama and best eye-liners and leave these kinds of discussion to people with more than half a brain. Have a nice day, Suju Queef.

          • Alex Dương

            Again, be polite.

          • Suju Queen

            The greatest problem with you being a loser is your inability to win a debate gracefully (I read what you wrote prior to your amendment early in the day) I smell such a strong Mr China man in your attitude…lol..The ME ME ME and ME…hahahahahahaha…Perhaps, you should learn life more than learning to understand logic.

            Stupider that I thought, you are..haiz……
            You are Grp 1 of people, I am Grp 2 of people.

            (Grp 1) I love dog but I won’t condemn those who eat it

            (Grp 2) I love dog and I condemn those who eat it

            a) Is dog meat available in your country, if no,

            Why it is not available ?

            b) What is the reason Dog meat is not sold as a staple food?

            Mr Brainy, if you are really Brainy, you won’t even spend your time debating with Grp 2 of people who just cannot see eyes to eyes with you.

            P/S : run a campaign against your government to make Dog meat available to the public..Show to the world, you are so so brainy because like you said, I am stupid so I am not match to you…lol…
            Don’t just talk, action….hahahahahahaha

          • James

            Suju Queef, I can feel my brain melting just by reading your response which is completely devoid of the most basic of logic.

    • KamikaziPilot

      So I guess you wouldn’t vilify the Swiss for also eating dog meat, not to mention cats too? How about horses? Someone who vilifies a whole country based on what they eat is both a bigot and so insecure with themselves they have to find ways to vilify another culture to make themselves feel better. I notice this a lot with Chinese people, both overseas and native. I’m talking about the insecurity in themselves. If you want to criticize their behavior (such as line cutting, not following rules, etc.) it’s okay but when you pick and choose which animals are okay for consumption you lose all credibility and make yourself look like a fool.

      • Suju Queen

        You guessing was incorrect, I will do the same to the minority Swiss for consuming food that is “none commercialised” and the public can’t purchase easily from any major supermarket. The majority world population don’t consume “none commercialised” food that is not in mass production such as horse/cat/dog, therefore, your allegation by defining those who do not support the ideal of eating dog towards a minority grp as bigot was irrelevant. You can have your opinion in supporting those who prefer to eat literally everything that is edible, whilst you must understand there are those who oppose that idea.

        If there’s a YES, there will always be a NO and I don’t see how one can dignified their own credibility by vilify other’s opinion as foolish.
        Who is looking more foolish here by not considerable staying humble ?

        • Alex Dương

          I don’t see how one can dignified their own credibility by vilify other’s opinion as foolish. Who is looking more foolish here by not considerable staying humble ?

          So according to you, it is OK for you to vilify 1.3 billion people, but it is not OK for @KamikaziPilot:disqus to criticize your opinion as bigoted?

          • Suju Queen

            When comes around goes around and I have been accepting all the debate and hurling in this threat without saying I am a humble woman…lol …and I still stand firm in my opinion , so what is the problem ? I did not stop anyone from vilify me in the beginning and I am replying each who vilified my comment

            Moerover, 1.3 billion people is not a correct number because not everyone in China consume Dog meat and I can’t remember who actually nitpicked me on this and it would be best that you provide your source to support that 1.3 billion people consume dog meat because I do know my distant relatives (some) don’t consume dog meat

        • KamikaziPilot

          Why even mention “non commercialized”? Do you even know what “commercial” means? Commercial doesn’t have anything to do with how popular or widespread something is. It means it’s done as a business, to make a profit, as opposed to some other reason. It seems like whatever the “majority” of the population eats for food is acceptable while what the “minority” eats is not acceptable according to your values. Am I right? You do know that the majority of the world’s population lives in Asia and not the Western world right. I’m not supporting anyone, I just don’t agree with vilifying a people because of what they eat. Anyways if you do believe that just because most countries don’t eat dog meat but China does so China is wrong all I have to say is your views are ethnocentric at best and self-hatred at worst. It wouldn’t surprise me though, as I know a lot of Chinese people seem to hate being Chinese.

      • Edward C

        Yeah what’s up with Chinese and line cutting…only mainlanders do this.. >:/ everyone else has sense and manners NOT to… From USA

    • Ricky Sue

      Hi Suju. What is worst then just eating dog meat is that some people in Vietnam and China will take their pet dogs to the dog meat market to choose the dog meat for their dinner. Can they not see the difference between their pet and the dog meat they are eating. My feeling is that these people have no empathy no sole. If it is not illegal to eat human meat, then it would probably be on the menu as well.

      The history behind china diverse appetite to eat anything and everything derived from the hard times during the war and under the communist rule under Chairman Mao. My father suffered during the Japanese invasion of China lost everything only had sweet potatoes to eat, them he lost both his sisters under Communist rule. Times were hard, food was scarce, nothing is wasted. All that is in the past. There is not excuse for the behaviour of the new generation of Chinese now.

      • Alex Dương

        Are you advocating for vegetarianism? Or are you just against dog meat specifically?

        • Ricky Sue

          I am not advocating anything, but I am against people eating dog meat. These are my points of views whether you agree with then or not does not concern me. I was just expressing my views and giving people some insight of the hard times the China people have had to endure during and after the war which lead to the the diverse range of food they eat now. I grew up with several dogs in my family and enjoy the pleasure of their company. They made great companions and totally loyal animals. In the Western world people see things differently, Killing a dog is a criminal offence which could lead to a short prison sentence or a heavy fine, it’s a serious offence, because if a person can perform such cruelty to an animal then they could possibly do the same to a human being.

          Alex, I don’t know where you are from or what your values are?? But this forum is for people to express their points of view whether you think they are right or wrong or if you agree with what they are saying depends on your own values and believes.

          If you are born in China and live there you will see things differently from Mainland Chinese who have spend a considerable amount of time overseas, They look back at China with different eye from when they left. I have many close friends from China and I understand and accept our cultural differences.

          If China is so great then why do some many mainland Chinese want to live overseas, I am making reference to the Middle class people not the poor ones from the village who are just after a better life.

          Thanks for your interest in my views.

          • Alex Dương

            I only asked you two questions. I never said you were not welcome to share your opinion. So there is no need to be defensive.

            Neither you nor Suju has a principled position here. In your case, you claim that you are just against eating dog meat. But what is your reasoning? “If a person can perform such cruelty to an animal then they could possibly do the same to a human being.” Um, that sounds like an argument against eating meat in general, not just eating dog meat specifically.

            Also, I have no reason why you felt the need to say, “If China is so great then why do some many mainland Chinese want to live overseas.” Like I said, I only asked you two questions. Neither question was about China being great or not great.

          • Ricky Sue

            Your question about advocating for vegetarianism, I sensed a bit of sarcasm?? Hence my full explanation on the topic, including cruelty to animals as per main article on this post. My reason against eating dog meat to satisfy your curiosity is that Dogs are treated in New Zealand and most western countries as family pets (domesticated animals) not for eating.

            It is pointless arguing any further on this topic. I have said my word. Everyone has a set point of view including yourself.

            My last comment about China was for the those ethnocentric readers who has a closed mine about other cultures especially people who have not had any exposure of the outside world.

          • Alex Dương

            See, that’s the thing. A principled position based on cruelty to animals would extend to ALL animals, not just those your culture (Kiwi) or my culture (American) deems pets. That’s why I asked you if you were advocating vegetarianism.

            You talk about Chinese and Vietnamese people not having “empathy” or “souls” (not soles) because some of them eat dog meat. Where’s your empathy for pigs and cows farmed for meat? You don’t have any because they’re not pets to you? Look on Youtube and you’ll see plenty of pet pigs and cows on family farms that are cute and likeable.

            I don’t eat dog meat. I like dogs and am not comfortable eating them. But I also don’t look down upon anyone who does.

          • Ricky Sue

            Have a nice day!

          • Suju Queen

            Nice one

            “I don’t eat dog meat. I like dogs and am not comfortable eating them. But I also don’t look down upon anyone who does.”

            I like Dog but I don’t condemn those who eat it, yeah..is as good as, I won’t stop dog meat consumption…what a nice way to be righteous..hahahahaha..

          • Alex Dương

            Both of you have the same fundamental problem in your argument: I don’t want to eat what I see in my daily life. It’s a reflection of how detached we are in modern society from our food.

            There is nothing righteous in thinking “I won’t eat dogs because to me, they’re pets, but chickens, cows, and pigs? Meh. Don’t see them, don’t care.”

          • Alex Dương

            Just so we’re clear, you are welcome to share your opinions and thoughts here. But please do not treat the comments section as a personal blog. What I mean is, you don’t have to discuss with others, but you should not have an attitude of, “here are my thoughts; it is pointless arguing any further.”

          • Suju Queen

            Speaking of which, I have never hear your explanation why Dog meat is not available on shelf that general public in America be easily have access to ? Like you said, If it is just a meat, then why it is Dog meat consumption take for example was banned NYS?

            “Neither you nor Suju has a principled position here”
            Then on what ground do you considered ours were not ? by whose standard ? your own standard to determined ? I smell authoritarian from a Mod…

          • Alex Dương

            Both you and Ricky are awfully defensive. You don’t have to discuss with anyone if you don’t want to, but you shouldn’t cry “hey, am I not allowed to share my thoughts here?” just because I or anyone else disagree with you.

            And as I wrote to you just now,

            Both of you have the same fundamental problem in your argument: I don’t want to eat what I see in my daily life. It’s a reflection of how detached we are in modern society from our food. There is nothing righteous in thinking “I won’t eat dogs because to me, they’re pets, but chickens, cows, and pigs? Meh. Don’t see them, don’t care.”

          • Suju Queen

            Hahahahaha…awfully defensive over someone who can’t even contain his emotion ..OMG!!! Are you even a mod ??? “Both of you have the same fundamental problem in your argument” – this is even epic…hahahahahaha

            Ok, you want to win in your argument…Fine…you can win ..clap clap clap…
            I understand why David and Ricky ignored you completely…lol….

            Bye and you are the winner….lol

            p/s : please examine yourself carefully…wanna be pragmatic?….first learn to deal with a diverse group of people with different opinions..

          • Alex Dương

            I think you should look in the mirror. I have no problems with you having different opinions. You and Ricky can’t seem to have a reasonable discussion without playing the victim card.

          • Vance

            The reason most Americans will not eat dog or horse meat is this I believe: Back in the pioneer days here, this was a tough place to live compared to the old countries. Dogs provided loyal companions to lonely people, warned of wild animals and enemies hidden in the forest, and helped in the hunt for food. People came to depend on their dogs for a lot. Horses were the same. Horses are “farm” animals like cows or pigs, yet we don’t eat them here. Again, horses helped pioneers survive. There were places in the west of America, where if a person lost his horse, he lost his life because he could not make it to the next water. So I think the these two animals became ingrained into the American subconsciousness as “companions”. Eating them for us is like cutting up your friends and eating them.

          • Suju Queen

            Thanks for explaining and I agree is really about the subconsciousness that many of us feel towards dog and in other case for horse as well.

      • Suju Queen

        Hi Ricky

        Yes, I was in horror when in my most vivid memory, my relative took me to a backyard , asked me what I want to eat. I saw a lot of cages with different animals..rabbit, cats, dogs, rodent..etc..I lost my appetite without even bothered to eat anything and just left. The most disgusting thing the Mainland Chinese ever eaten – Human Foetus..!!! What the hell man!!! Terrible to deep pit…

        Yeah, I heard about the WWII experience from my grandmother (my dad was still a baby back then) so food was scarce and like you said, sweet potatoes were the only thing there can eat.

  • Suju Queen

    This is a ChinaSmack, of course , I can only refers to mainland Chinese. Not only Korean eat dog meat, a minority Swiss consume dog meat as well. The point is not about Dog/Cat we keep as pet. The majority population in this world don’t consume “non commercialised” food. In Asia Pacific, only Korea and China have Dog meat restaurant and how is that so if in your own perception Dog meat is just another food then why majority don’t consume it ? Or only the majority consider Dog as pet and not the Mainland Chinese ? No, we never say Mainland Chinese don’t consider Dog as pet so your allegation defined the majority perception was not transparent. We are more then curious why the Mainland Chinese and Korean wanted to eat Dog meat – Why this meat ?

  • biggj

    Who let the dogs out {woof, woof, woof, woof}!!!!

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