Surviving WWII Veterans to Receive 5000 RMB Subsidy

Surviving WWII Veterans to Receive 5000 RMB Subsidy

The head of National Defense University’s Cataloging and Research Departments has written an article expressing that some of the surviving Chinese WWII veterans will receive a one-off subsidy of 5000 RMB. Xu Sen said it is a symbolic token to commemorate those involved in the “victories of the Chinese People’s War of Resistance Against Japan and the World War against Fascism”. He also slammed recent opinions that the CPC didn’t contribute much in the war, and denounced the KMT members that turned their guns on the CPC, saying their merits couldn’t simply outweigh their faults, to which many netizens agreed.
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  • hess

    “He also slammed recent opinions that the CPC didn’t contribute much in the war”. So he slammed historical facts

    • Necrogodomega

      Of course, the CPC isn’t worried about facts as much as their version of facts.

      I mean just look at how the “holiday” is worded. As if China played any important part in WWII or that China liberated itself totally without help from any “laowai” or the KMT.

      • Alex Dương

        As if China played any important part in WWII

        China did play an important part in WWII.

        • Necrogodomega

          Holy Hell! Alex has returned! Guess you just waited fora chance to defend China.

          Since you’ve been absent for so long, let’s hear how China played an important part in WWII. By fighting the Nazis? Or being invaded by Japan? I’m sure there is a good story here.

          • Alex Dương

            Thanks for your concern; I appreciate it. Just so you know, I have approved many of your recent posts since you choose to post without an account. Don’t worry; it’s no big deal.

            As for “a good story,” well, that’s your problem here. There isn’t one, and there doesn’t have to be one. China was nowhere near strong enough to be able to beat Japan. All it could do was bog Japan down and be a quagmire. And that’s exactly what China did. Japan thought it could conquer China in three months, but Shanghai alone took more than three months. By the time the U.S. entered the war, Japan had been stuck in China for over four years, and they still weren’t any closer to getting CKS to surrender or leave the country.

          • Necrogodomega

            I thought only Mr. Wiener was left to approve posts. Well, I do thank you for approving my post.

            Also, I use a guest account cause for some reason CS banned my disqus account ages ago and after 3 emails asking why and no response I just used this guest function using the same name.

            As for the situation. Ok, I’ll give that Japan got kind mired in China. Not sure why their planning failed so badly since they took nearly all of the other South East Asians and islands without much trouble. I know they also picked on Russia, which everyone knows is a big no-no and the picked on USA another big no-no. So they kinda got spread too thin. I’m not entirely sure how much of an “important” role that played in the War, but since I have no evidence to suggest anything else, I’ll give you that point.

            Either way, I will still stand by my first point that really there isn’t a “victories of the Chinese People’s War of Resistance Against Japan and the World War against Fascism” event that Chinese really should be celebrating. They never would have defeated Japan if USA and Russia hadn’t also been involved. They surely didn’t do anything to help Europe against the Nazis. So…yeah. It’s kinda a trumped up holiday to make the CCP (that didn’t really do jack during that time compared to the KMT that was actually in charge) look grander than they are.

            Either way, nice to see you again Alex. Nice at least 2 mods are left as we all watch this once great site die it’s slow death.

          • Alex Dương

            I’m not entirely sure how much of an “important” role that played in the War, but since I have no evidence to suggest anything else, I’ll give you that point.

            Fair enough.

            They never would have defeated Japan if USA and Russia hadn’t also been involved.

            Absolutely true. But what is the point you want to make? Allied victory was a joint effort? The U.S. and the U.S.S.R. were primarily responsible for the Allied victory? Something else?

          • mr.wiener

            Mr. wiener has been MIA on shanghaiist. Knife fights in a phone booth can be quite addictive….will ween myself off them.

          • Dolph Grunt

            Your debates with Banlas are classic, don’t give it up entirely.

          • Necrogodomega

            No my only point is how the holiday is being portrayed as solely the CPC’s valiant victory of those evil Island Dwarfs. You never hear them give any credit to anyone else. The KMT fought and killed probably way more than the CPC did, yet they get called out as bad. I’m very sure the Russians and the Americans killed VASTLY more than the Chinese.

            So you want a victory day, fine, fine. Have it. But don’t try pretending like you (China) were a lone wolf backed into a corner and came out triumphant Spartan style. It’s really all I’m trying to say. They are glory hogging. Totally CPC style.

          • Alex Dương

            You never hear them give any credit to anyone else. The KMT fought and killed probably way more than the CPC did, yet they get called out as bad.

            This is demonstrably false. There are numerous tributes etc. to the Flying Tigers in mainland China, and ten years ago, Hu Jintao “acknowledged” the KMT’s role in WWII.

            http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/21/decay-of-flying-tigers-graveyard-sparks-debate-in-china/?_r=0

            Of course the CCP’s official history is extremely self-serving and distorts what really happened. If that’s your point, I’m with you. But it doesn’t sound like that’s your point since you say, “They never would have defeated Japan if USA and Russia hadn’t also been involved. They surely didn’t do anything to help Europe against the Nazis.”

            Back then, “they” were the KMT and the ROC. Not the CCP and not the PRC. You say that you’re only against the CCP being self-serving. Then why talk about “they” this way?

          • Necrogodomega

            They is just the very lazy English way of writing. I’m sure you understand that as if I’m not mistaken you’re either an American or lived in America. I don’t mean they and is “China, every living and dead Chinese, or anything else”. I’m referring to the government.

            Now, I’m actually referring to the government CCP, as in I have no idea or contact with the destroyed government since it was vastly before my time.

            Ok, I missed that 10 years ago (wow) one guy gave a comment about it. (I couldn’t load the page you linked). Regardless, right now, THIS MOMENT in history, they are not when they should be. They are actually (from the article) making it sound as if the KMT were not helpful at all.

            For the tributes to the Flying Tigers and other foreign help, I’ve never seen one at any recent time or heard anyone of my students give any sort of idea that China had help. Maybe in Hu’s time as well they talked about it? I don’t know. That’s a long time ago. Most of my students are rather amazed to learn that not only do foreign people know about the war but that some were here fighting against the Japanese too.

            As for the CCP being self-serving. Come now, you know very well that they are. You know they are making this holiday to make themselves look better than they were. You know they don’t give our the official history in school in any way that would make it look like the CCP was anything less than a Godsend.

            Yet, if they made mention way back in the, I’ll let it go. I’m not going to scour the broken internet of China looking for things from way back when. If you want to link it, be my guest.

          • Alex Dương

            As for the CCP being self-serving. Come now, you know very well that they are. You know they are making this holiday to make themselves look better than they were. You know they don’t give our the official history in school in any way that would make it look like the CCP was anything less than a Godsend.

            You seem to have misread what I wrote. I said, “Of course the CCP’s official history is extremely self-serving and distorts what really happened. If that’s your point, I’m with you.”

          • mr.wiener

            China was Japan’s Russia.

  • Foreign Devil

    I guess enough of them have died off that you can look good doing this and it will actually cost very very little. . I mean you’d have to be over 95 years old. . it’s just a handful left alive.

    • Googleisblocked

      Plus, most them would have been a KMT, who don’t entiltle in such generosity.

  • firebert5

    “…to which many netizens agreed.”
    Or at least those that were allowed to remain posted did.

  • 70 years after the war ended…how many are left?

  • Dolph Grunt

    “victories of the Chinese People’s War of Resistance Against Japan”

    I’m currently watching a Pro-Mao documentary and not even they claim that.

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