Chinese Girls ‘Laowai’ Foreign Men Dislike and Marry

Chinese girl and Western boyfriend

Below is Part 2 of our four part translation of a popular 2012 post on major Chinese discussion forum Tianya. In Part 1, the original Chinese poster discussed why foreign men generally have more success in picking up girls compared to Chinese men, highlighting some of the differences between the two.

Part 2 here is two anecdotes of experiences and conversations the Chinese poster has had with his male foreign friends and their love lives:

From Tianya:

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Having said this much, below I’ll share some examples, that through my conversations with my laowai friends, show what kind of impressions and feelings laowai have towards Chinese girls.

Interviews with laowai:

Laowai A is a German man who has lived in Beijing for four and a half years now. Whenever we chat, he wold often complain to LZ [me] that Chinese girls are SB.

A said: “In the past, I’ve stayed in Japan and Thailand. I feel when compared to Japanese girls and Thai girls, Chinese girls are more SB, more annoying, more unlikable.”

I asked him: “Why did you say this? Is it because Chinese girls are more materialistic? Or because their English is bad?”

A answered: “Because I don’t actually want to get married in Asia, and want to return to my home country in the future, so I don’t have any long-term plans. The thing I dislike about Chinese women is that they are free, and free girls are the most annoying. When I was in Thailand, finding sexual relations was very convenient, extremely, cheap. Most girls could be had by paying money, and they knew the rules, not bothering or clinging to you afterwards. What more, Thai girls are very sexy and sensible.

But my favorite are still Japanese girls. They are very gentle and very cute, very attentive to a man’s feelings/experience. When I was working in Japan, I developed several relationships with Japanese girls, which were of the so-called compensated-dating type. I really like that kind of relationship, open, transparent, fair. I got sexual pleasure, while the girl got money and new clothes. Everyone is very happy.

The ones I like the least are Chinese girls. On the surface, they are girls who don’t want money, but they are actually the most annoying, the most frightening, and the craziest women. They all want to marry me, and even though I’ve made it clear multiple times that I don’t plan on getting married, they’ll still cling to me. One of the women even used suicide and slitting her wrist to threaten me, and another one went to my home and cut my clothes into pieces.

I think Chinese girls are all very stupid and don’t use their heads. One time, I met a Chinese girl. I really liked her, so I suggested giving her money and gifts, and helping pay the rent for her, but she was very angry, even calling me white trash, saying I was treating her like a prostitute, deleting me from from her MSN [Messenger, online instant messaging tool]. Then before long, I heard that this girl had sex with one of my friends, and what’s more, this friend was very promiscuous, who very quickly dumped her afterwards, leaving her very heart-broken.

I asked this friend, ‘How did you get her?’

He said, ‘I just invited her to have some coffee a few times, talked about Chinese culture, then invited her to my home to watch a movie, and that’s it. It was very easy.’

I don’t think men should take advantage of girls. If you don’t plan on marrying her, then it should be made clear, or give her a certain amount of support financially, but in China, many girls are not rational. They are stupid, very insane. If you suggest helping her financially, she instead resents and despises you, so this way doesn’t work. Now I’ve also learned to be like other laowai, inviting girls to coffee, using flattery to get them into bed. But I feel this is like lying, and it makes me feel very uncomfortable.”


Laowai H is French. With blonde hair and blue eyes, he’s quite handsome, but his family is very poor and he couldn’t find a job, so he came to China to be an English teacher. According to him, he made 5 girlfriends in his very first month.

When going out with H, it’s always me who picks up the bill. Sometimes he even brings his girlfriend, and naturally it’s me who pays the bill as well. H has no money, and when you add him having to date so many girls, where he has to spend money, he’s even poorer.

At the time, H had a young girlfriend who was only 20 years old, from Hunan province, with large round eyes, and was very cute and pretty. At the time, I envied him a lot. Later I heard H say that they had sex on their first date, that this girl really loved him, would wash his laundry and cook for him. H said he really wanted to marry her.

Then just a few months later, I asked him how he was doing with that pretty girl. He indifferently said, “We broke up.” I asked why. He said, “She got pregnant. I wanted to take her to get an abortion, but she kept crying and making a fuss, wanting me to marry her, so I had to break up with her. She’s been harassing me these last few months, so I had no choice but change my phone number and move to a new place to hide from her.

Hearing this, I felt a little angry and asked H, “Why didn’t you marry her?”

H told me honestly, “Because I have no money. Getting married costs a lot of money, but I can’t afford to take care of her. When we were dating, I paid for everything. If we got married and I had to support two people’s lives, I wouldn’t be able to do that.”

Later, the women that H dated kept changing, so much that I couldn’t even keep track.

Even later, I became disgusted with his decadent lifestyle, and stopped contacting him.

Then a year later, I ran into H at a bar. He looked energetic and healthy, and the clothes he wore became stylish too, and he even wore a platinum ring. I said hi to him and H very enthusiastically and happily told me, “I got married!”

I said, “Congratulations! You finally found someone you love!” I was pretty happy that H got married, because at least now that he has settled down, he won’t be hurting so many Chinese girls anymore.

H showed me a photo of his wife in his mobile phone. That woman looked very ugly, very fat, very old, and a little masculine. I was a little shocked, but I very quickly recovered, because laowai’s tastes are always a little unique.

I asked H, “How did you guys fall in love?”

H delightedly said, “I went to her home to teach her son English, and then we fell in love. Lili is divorced, is nine years older than me, but we get along very well and really love each other. Being with her, I feel really happy. I’ve never loved a woman so deeply before in my life.”

I asked H, “Where do you live now?”

H said, “I live with Lili. She has three houses, all purchased by herself. My wife is very capable. At 18 years old, she went out on her own to do business and has since opened three clothing stores. Now she’s having me learn how to do business from her, and we’re planing to do foreign trade, exporting cloth to France. I feel very lucky, to have met a woman as good as my wife. She’s made my life very full and happy, and it’s getting better and better.”

After hearing this, I realized the reason why H was with this woman, and it is just one word. His reason for dumping that 20-year-old Hunan girl is also just one word… What this word is, I trust everyone already knows…

Part 3 includes what the original poster believes are common myths Chinese women have about foreign men. Part 4 features translated Chinese netizen reactions to the overall post. Part 1 can be found here.

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  • Connor

    first

  • Alex X

    The first interview sums up my experience with Chinese women. It always amazes me how Chinese girls can bring up marriage on the first date.

    • christina

      it’s a different culture, alex

      • The Enlightened One

        I agree. They are making their intentions very clear. Infact, I prefer this direct line of questioning sometimes. I usually find that most Chinese can be very vague or generalized in their communication for the sake of being obtuse. When they are direct, it is appreciated.

    • linette lee

      ………….Chinese girls can bring up marriage on the first date…………

      Why is it so shocking? They want to make sure they are not wasting their youth on a player that has no intention for marriage. You don’t find it shocking sleeping around one night stand like the western culture.

  • donkeykong

    So, opinions and generalizations can be made based on the supposed comments from only two foreign men ?
    We know that all Chinese people are exactly the same, so all non-Chinese are exactly the same also….

    • Yang

      Not even sure if these are “real foreign men”. Just a so called journalist ruining it for everybody and promoting anti-foreign racism

      • donkeykong

        I do not believe that they are real foreign men.
        The conversations just seem made up by some insecure guy with a victim mentality.

        • Appalled@everything

          absolutely agree

  • Pigglemiggle

    From another angle, if you’re looking for a relationship and don’t just wanna fool around (controversial, I know), then the Chinese ‘you and me forever’ mentality can be kinda nice. I had given up on Chinese girls because they all seemed materialistic and seemed to all have stupid ideas about how black people need a skin wash or indian people smell or any kind of racist rubbish… anyway… there are some who don’t think like that, especially those who’ve lived abroad for a while. I’ve been dating my girlfriend for 2 years, I trust her, she trusts me, its nice. ANYWAY…

    • Yang

      Of course you can have a trusting relationship! These f’cking posts are just plain double-way racism. It makes everyone looks bad. Any of these posts that Chinasmacks links here do!
      Don’t wonder if you get stared down with your gilfriend by foreigners and Chinese alike, because they have started to believe in this bulshit.
      Don’t join this debate!

    • Archie

      I had to look at the name on this post, because I thought I had written it myself. Odd.

  • Yang

    Not another one of these stupid posts! Man I don’t know where do you pick them from but they are only double sided racism. Laowai about Chinese girls/ Chinese girls about Laowai/ Chinese men about foreigners dating Chinese girls! My fucking god! You are just making the whole topic worse for everyone. You always depict foreigners as guys who come to China to fuck their way through, Chinese girls as materialistic and in it for the visa, and Chinese men as narrow-minded nationalists that are sexually frustrated.
    Where is the fucking journalism??? I can’t believe that either one of these interviews are true, they are so blown out of proportions it’s ridiculous!
    What the fuck Chinasmack, you have also a responsibility when depicting Chinese society and foreigners living in China to the readers that DO NOT live in China! You making it a whole lot worse for everybody. Don’t join in in the debate!

    • hun

      It attracts hits and comments. Just look at all the white+chinese articles with the 1000+ comments even though theres other foreignors in China besides whites. Best way to stop these type of articles is to not comment and not show interest but the way its been going, i highly doubt it.

      • KAMIKAZIPILOT

        Agree 100% but we all know that for many ignorant Chinese the only people in this world are the Chinese, laowai, and Japanese devils. Everyone else is invisible.

        • starsky

          hooray the nationalist propaganda plan is working IN CHINA.

          btw hun is right, the black laowei or hogwei is also on the prowl

          • dim mak

            Those chicks dont even look asian

          • BigCAD

            Black and yellow, black and yellow

          • Gaius Baltar

            That video is top drawer, yo!

          • Kate

            Those asian girls don’t even look asian, they look more hispnic honestly.

          • starsky

            wow you have been living among hispanics too long , those asians are half spanish. most people would have never suspected

        • linette lee

          no no no..It’s Chinese, Americans, and Japanese devils.

      • dim mak

        I also like how they stretched this shit out over 3 posts for maximum buttrage

        Good work, CS

    • Alejandro

      Yes, this kind of articles make me sick.
      Besides it seems that LZ never says something positive of foreigners…we are all trash and the girls are easy.
      Fuck you, LZ and fuck you Chinasmack. Write something useful and responsible

    • mekko

      You know that this isn’t Chinasmack’s original work, right? It’s a TRANSLATION of a piece from China. The people reading this are Westerners, and no one’s going to think that this article accurately portrays how foreigners act in China. This is a representation of Chinese opinions on matters in China. If you think that the readers of Chinasmack are so uneducated that they’ll think this is an accurate representation of the actual people in China, you’re a fucking idiot.

      • BoraBora

        As if the opinion of one ignorant Chinese guy in the internet represent the opinion of the rest of the Chinese people.

        • mekko

          That’s why I put “a” before “representation”. Not “the.” It’s only one of many.

        • thmswhnr

          As I understand, the premise of cS is that they take _popular_ posts from the Chinese intarwebs and translate them to English, so the non-Sinophone population of the world can have a glimpse at what Chinese people are discussing as a whole. Because there hundreds of millions of Chinese internet users, this is obviously a difficult task.

          While it was just one ignorant Chinese guy who wrote this post, I expect that the post resonated with (and possibly annoyed) many people who came across it, giving it enough visibility in the Chinese cyber realm that a cS editor saw it and determined it to be noteworthy.

    • Mr Nightcat

      It’s made clear in the FAQ here that articles chosen, for better or worse, are popular articles that are or have trended on the internet in China. Despite the original author writing most of his posts just for attention on Tianya, this one in particular became very popular and there’s little about it that doesn’t fit chinaSMACK’s target. chinaSMACK doesn’t assume responsibility for depicting China or foreigners in a particular way.

      This might sound like an automated email response to a complaint, but if you go through their FAQ and article policy you’ll see this written out clearly. And yes, such articles attract the most comments and traffic so it’s no wonder such an article was chosen.

      • Germandude

        And still for the last 3-4 months, the topics suck. European-Chinese couples, Little girls in Bikini at Chinese Car show, Chinese waitress group performance, Nanjing stray cat rubbing its paws and so on. Not even to mention the songs and jokes & humor stuff. If I go through the last 9 pages of articles on cS, each page only holds 1-2 interesting and ‘educational’ topic. Considering what happened in China during that time (government switch, corruption scandals etc.), it’s amazing what kind of bullshit topics are posted.
        I get the feeling the real target audience for cS is the French English-teacher, the German-Asia-enthusiast or the redneck-with cultural shock in China…
        Makes you wonder how representative this page is when comparing with your surroundings.
        It’s like watching National Geographic channel, seeing the show “Doomsday preppers” and thinking that ALL Americans are weirdos because NGC is representative.

        • Justin

          Well please make a website yourself then. Study Chinese for 10 years, learn to read and write it, then learn to code HTML. Then build a website that has a mass following and thousands of comments a day. Alternatively, you can put whatever you want on it. Or alternatively, if you want to read some translations of Chinese news that are a little more hard-hitting, go to the China Media Project or the Marco Polo Project, but please stop bitching about a service that is being provided to you free of charge.

    • donscarletti

      Someone should post one of those Admiral Ackbar pictures in this thread as a warning…

      It’s a trap.

    • Germandude

      I absolutely agree with you. The funny thing about these articles is that I am sure anybody who has stayed in China for more than 12 months has seen/heard EXACTLY the same things. That is, if you don’t lock yourself into your apartment.
      I mean, go to a pub in Shanghai/Beijing/Guangzhou, where there are foreigners. You can always meet “this lost soul” that is willing to tell you of what he is doing. And the weird stereotypes couldn’t be better: I mean, French English teacher, German Asia-Junky… What stereotype comes next? The dude from Alabama (US) that came to China wondering that not everybody speaks English? The guy from Darwin (AUS) that was shocked that he couldn’t have a bbq in his compound park? It’s just bullshit.
      I am pretty sure the author of this crap has heard stories from friends that heard the stories from their friends, who might have been sitting at a table close to some foreign students talking about “how easy it is to pick up chinese girls”.
      Of course you meet foreign guys that are bragging about their Asia-experience, but NEVER EVER have I seen a foreigner bragging about it in front of Chinese guys. I mean, who would do that? It’s just ridiculous.
      In my eyes, the author is just frustrated that he can’t score, makes up some bullshit, posts it online in the hope that ALL girls in China will read it and not date foreigners, so that his chances for a date increase…

      • BoraBora

        The funny thing is, foreign guys who usually try to brag about their Asian experience scoring girls are just a bunch of empty talk who who fail to score girls in Asia but still make up stories just to make themselves superior. How often do you encounter white men x Chinese women couples in China? Very rare and not common.

        • Red Scarf

          Maybe you don’t see them because there are few white men in China who are in China long enough to start dating.

          http://shanghaiist.com/2011/04/30/total_number_of_foreigners_in_mainl.php

          I let you do the maths

          I have been to second grade cities like with populations of 2-3 millions, well maybe not classes as cities but very big towns. And the majority of people have not seen a foreigner in real live before and girls in bars will come and hit on you simply because your “exotic” and curious because they never seen a foreigner, i.e like mills and boom rubbish when the tall dark mysterious stranger from a foreign land arrives. Go outside the tourist and student places even in the major cities and you will not bump into white men much either there would be days I wouldn’t see a Westerner in Beijing.

          • BoraBora

            Of course,Chinese girls only hit foreign men simply because of curiosity.

            Actually, majority of foreign men in China don’t date Chinese women, but rather they date foreign women. Just like in America where majority of Chinese women date/marry Chinese men, in China, the white men here mostly date white women more often than Chinese women.

          • Red Scarf

            Hmm sorry I tend to disagree I’ve seen less same race pairings (white) than mixed race pairings and most of the time when I did they came to China as a couple. To be honest I seen more black – Asian pairing than white-white pairings in China for those who are living in China, note the tourist kinds.

            But the thing is if girls are hitting you out of curiosity then theirs bound to be a higher change that they will want to go on a first date if you want to to ask them.

          • BoraBora

            ‘came to China as a couple.’

            I’m confuse. Are you referring to the one in America that went to China or the one from China? In China, I’ve seen more white men date white women more than white men date Chinese women.

          • Red Scarf

            In China I have seen more white men date Chinese women than white men date white women, the white guys I have seen in China who have white girlfriends, and where living in China and not being tourists, where couples before they arrived in China.

          • BoraBora

            Interesting, which part of China where you seen more white men date Chinese women more than white men date white women.

          • Red Scarf

            Beijing, mostly the West end for like 3 years, Often would go down to the student hang outs in wudokou, other parts of China for like 1 yr over the course of 3 years in Shanghai, Chongqing area as well. .

            When I met a white-white couple it would either be oh we came to China together to teach or study or one was married and draged the other along, i.e they didn’t come as singles I can only recall once in all my time that a person said that they met their white other half in China. Maybe were just simply see it different because we where hanging out in different social circles.

          • BoraBora

            Just curious, from your observation, in term of percentage, how many percent of those white men have Chinese girlfriends? What is your estimation?

          • Red Scarf

            God….. that’s a hard question to answer trying to compile several years of memories. If I were to estimate from the circle of friends I know/knew it would be in the odds of 70-75% white-chinese to 30-25% white-white.

          • BoraBora

            By the way, actually even in tourist circle and student places, I don’t see much white men x Chinese women couples.

          • Blue

            You’re living in a dream world. You must walk around with your eyes closed. Are you, perhaps, one of those people who refute that Chinese people piss and shit everywhere in the street?
            My friend, you need to open your eyes and see the world, because its clearly a lot different than you think.
            I’m not even going to address the vapid pointlessness of your argument about exaggeration.

          • Shanghaiman

            WOW! Piss and shit everywhere. Clearly, you’ve been fool by China Smack. Pissing and shit everywhere is certainly not normal behavior in China. Yes, there are Chinese people with barbaric attitude but even those behavior are consider abnormal in front of Chinese people. And there’s really isn’t much Chinese women who are into white men.

          • chrisss

            you seem obsessed with the possibility that chinese woman would prefer a western barbar then a confucian gentleman, given that someone there remember who Confucius was. Maybe if in the past you guys didn’t kill so many female babies now you wouldn’t be so afraid of statistic…

          • Shanghaiman

            Dude, stats shows Chinese women not into western men.

          • chris

            do you also read books to find out what exactly sex feels like?Mate, i don’t need to read stats, i see that almost every given day…

          • Shanghaiman

            You do realize you the one who brought up the word ‘statistic’ first in your previous comment. No, I’m not afraid as I already married and have children. I’m just speaking from my observation and experience in China.

          • chris

            epic fail, what i meant is that your are afraid of it and i was talking about female-male ratio in china not about how many chinese gals wants to get laid with a foreign, but the correct word for your obsession should be paranoia…

            for ur reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia

          • Shanghaiman

            Why would I care about female-male ratio? I didn’t say anything that about it either. You are getting off topic and not addressing a single thing I said.

          • mr.wiener

            Correction, not as into western guys as they used to be.Apparently we are the other white meat now.
            Beware of stats, they can be fiddled and misleading….apparently 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape.

          • Shanghaiman

            Yeah, not as into western guys as they used to be. Couldn’t said it better myself.

          • Shanghaiman

            Still, I doubt the stats is misleading as my observation show similar things.

          • SAO

            If you take the huge Kpop waves in China into consideration, it shouldn’t be surprised that Chinese women now more into Asian men.

          • mr.wiener

            Beware of observations even more. Often we only see what we want to see :)

          • Jahar

            Wow you aren’t joking are you? I haven’t met a white guy in China who didn’t have a Chinese girlfriend.

          • BoraBora

            Are you kidding me? Ever since the financial crisis, Chinese women desire for foreign men have decrease a lot. You’ve been brainwash by China Smack who cherry pick their news.

          • Gaius Baltar

            I’ve met more than a few white guys who have never had a chinese girlfriend, and I wouldn’t call them losers either, very fluent in Chinese and stable individuals.

          • Jake The Peg

            that is total rubbish… i know many male foreigners living in china and i’d say at least 90% have chinese gf’s/wives.

          • Hansaram

            Depend on which generations of Chinese women he mean. If BoraBora mean the one from older generation, then they do desire foreign male for economic reasons but as China economy grow, the preferences for foreign male by younger generation of Chinese women have decrease.

            http://www.thebeijinger.com/forum/2010/02/18/Foreign-men-becoming-less-attractive-options-for-chinese-girls-due-to-economic-cris?page=1

          • disqus_eerA9rZZUT

            You are all trying to simply a complex demographic with blanket statements based on your own limited personal experiences. There are some white men who are more likely to find themselves in relationships with Chinese women in China, and there are some white men who are less likely to find themselves in the same relationships. That is about all you can say. Trying to estimate some quantity is totally unreliable. You are all stating some truths, though. White/Chinese relationships in China, particularly in major cities, are not uncommon, true. But there are also many barriers to such relationships, which would otherwise make them more common.

            And since I’m commenting… this Chinese man from Tianya is obviously not speaking from personal experience. I won’t speak to his motives, but he is very obviously just making all of this shit up.

          • Shanghaiman

            Sorry, I’m from China, but I do agree that most of those Chinese women who date white men are from older generations. Not a single one of my three daughters and my nieces show any strong preferences towards foreign men.

          • chris

            haha, sorry but i am in china, and precisely in shanghai and i cant assure you that many single but also married chinese girls would come over the same nigth u chat with them. And isnt really about generations…

          • Shanghaiman

            In that case, those Shanghai women you talking about are in the minority then.

          • chris

            hahahah

          • malcolm

            dude,, you are a fucking idiot. and yes they date us because we actually have a big penis and not a small lollipop.

        • Jahar

          please tell me you are being sarcastic.

          • BoraBora

            Nope,I’m not. Get yourself a ticket here. There’s not many white guys x Chinese women couples here in China.

          • Jahar

            I live in Wuhan. I know a thousand white guys and they all have chinese gfs.

          • BoraBora

            Thousand? Now that over exaggerated. I’ve travel to Wuhan before and no, the amount of white men x Chinese women doesn’t even reach thousands. Beside, white men population in China is very little so having thousand in Wuhan alone, you are not fooling anyone.
            http://shanghaiist.com/2011/04/30/total_number_of_foreigners_in_mainl.php

          • Jahar

            of course i am exaggerating. but there are hundreds of us here. and aside from a few, most have or have had chinese gfs. I had assumed most major cities are this way.

          • BoraBora

            LOL! No. You seriously need to come up with better stories. Even RedScarf admit in other major cities like Beijing, there would be days where you won’t see a single westerners. You lost your credibility the moment you admit you exaggerating and begin to contradict with yourself.

          • Jahar

            Stories? There are days when i wont see many foreigners. but in a citie of 8 million a few hundred is not much. If you know anything about wuhan, you would know how many universities there are here, how high of a concentration of students there are in one area. foreign students, plus english teachers. add on all the french and german businessmen here, adding up to a few hundred doesn’t take much. is something wrong with you? also, where is the contradiction?

          • Germandude

            The contradiction lies in that your impressions don’t fit his picture and thus, are invalid.

          • BoraBora

            First, you said thousand and now suddenly to hundred. You are not being consistent, aren’t you. Yes, I’m aware of Wuhan high concentration of students as I’ve been there before but that does not mean there are many Chinese women who date white men.

          • Jahar

            It was an exaggeration. i stated it was an exaggeration, although i don’t know why I had to. it was obviously an exaggeration. As for Chinese women who date white men, well 4 million of them, a couple hundred of us. There are more than enough who might be willing.

          • BoraBora

            You don’t know why you had to? Yeah right….

          • Jahar

            you’ve never heard someone exaggerate before?

          • BoraBora

            Yes, I have and you don’t even know why you exaggerate?

          • Hansaram

            Well, it’s pretty obvious Jahar want to brag about white men superiority so he decided to make it sound as much as possible but when he get caught for lying, he reduce the number to hundred to make it sound believable.

          • Jahar

            wow you’re a moron

          • Jahar

            “I’ve seen this movie a million times” Obviously I’m bragging about my superiority when it comes to watching movies.Or, just like when people usually exaggerate, I just want to emphasize, that in my opinion, it’s a lot.

          • Hansaram

            Movie? I didn’t say anything about movie.

            ‘Or, just like when people usually exaggerate’

            Yeah, like how people exaggerate the amount of white men x Chinese women couples.

          • Jahar

            I’m mocking your idiotic statement. Learn english retard

          • Hansaram

            Yawn..troll harder.

          • Jahar

            well, you clearly don’t understand exaggeration, superiority, or grammar. I’m trying to brag about our superiority to whom, exactly?

          • Hansaram

            To the internet.LOL!

          • Jahar

            well, i hope white guys get more chinese gfs than the internet. haha

          • Hansaram

            Too bad, if only this is before the financial crisis, white guy still have chance with Chinese girls but ever since financial crisis, Chinese women desire for white guys have decrease a lot.

          • Jahar

            you really like saying that.

          • Hansaram

            Well, it’s the truth.

          • Jahar

            hasn’t slowed me down. but then again, i wasnt here before.

          • Hansaram
          • Jahar

            also, that statement is rather difficult to quantify.

          • Hansaram
          • Germandude

            Good. If that is the case, it should lead to less bullshit complaints from the Chinese guys, since now the odds have changed to their favor and no white man is stealing Chinese girls anymore. Finally, we can live in peace again. Let’s see how long it takes until foreign guys post on blogs how they have become unable to date Chinese girls as of late.
            /warning, this comment might not be serious and sarcasm might’ve been used.

          • Hansaram

            Don’t bother about blog. Everyone can create blog and make up a bunch of stories. Beside, China Smack only cherry pick their news. They pick one loser Chinese guy in the internet and make it sound like it represent the rest of Chinese guys.

          • Germandude

            I know. Thank god that I have decent Chinese friends that are not that simple-minded as this BoraBora guy.

          • BoraBora

            Your contradiction is that first, you said thousand and now suddenly you said hundred. By being inconsistent, it prove the unreliability of your claim.

          • Germandude

            Dude, I don’t know what’s your agenda, nor do I know/want to know about your world picture. I invite you to come to Shanghai for a beer and I will show you around so that you can see with your own eyes.
            You are right, MOST Chinese girls are not interested in foreigners and don’t have a foreign boyfriend. Not surprising actually, considering the low number of foreigners in China and the odds that most girls don’t have any contact with foreigners.
            Contrary, more than half of the foreign guys have a Chinese girlfriend. Which is also no surprise, considering that most of the girls they’ll meet will be Chinese. SURPRISE!?
            And don’t misunderstand, I am not saying that the girls that never have had contact to a foreigner, would directly go for a foreigner.

          • BoraBora

            Dude, if you are talking about places like pub/bar, obviously you will see them a lot since those places are where foreign men hang out and those minority of Chinese women who are into white men went there. I’m talking about outside those bar/pub like in the street or any other dating spots in China.

          • Germandude

            I am also willing to meet you during the day in front of a Starbucks and do a city tour with you.

            I mentioned the pub as in “Dude, that’s the meeting point”. Of course we can go anywhere else and the picture is still the same.

          • BoraBora

            First you said city pub, and now you want to change your story to city tour. I’ve been to Shanghai before and I don’t see that many white men x Chinese women couples. However, if you would like to bring me to tour, I don’t mind meet you in person.

          • Germandude

            See, I am in a business where 90% of the customers are foreigners. (it’s not offshore investment just in case anybody gets the wrong impression. I know how hated these freaks are). My customers can be anything from students, teachers, managers, common business men, diplomats, even ambassadors. Some of them are married and came to China with their family. Most of them came to China alone. And guess what, the majority of the foreign men end up having Chinese wives. If you think that’s surprising, then I am surprised.
            City tour, no problem. I won’t even ask “watch, bag, dvd………..nice lady massage”. Promise!

          • BoraBora

            So in other words, it’s just inside your social circle where you meet
            white men with Chinese women couples not the general public. Ok, I will be free next two weeks which is around after the Spring Festival. Yes, I’m surprised consider that my observation shows that the amount of foreign men x Chinese women is very little and a survey shows that the number of Chinese women who are into foreign men have decrease. So, how are we suppose to meet?

            Double post. I think I hit the wrong button.

          • kevinnolongerinpudong

            I get it, Borabora is blind

          • Jahar

            He’s a troll, time we stop talking to him.

          • BoraBora

            And why is that?

          • BoraBora

            So in other words, it’s just inside your social circle where you meet white men with Chinese women couples not the general public. Ok, I will be free next two weeks which is around after the Spring Festival. Yes, I’m surprised consider that my observation shows that the amount of foreign men x Chinese women is very little and a survey shows that the number of Chinese women who are into foreign men have decrease. So, how are we suppose to meet?

          • Germandude

            Well, whatever. Since I won’t be in Shanghai until end of February it might not work out. Go to ANY place in Shanghai with a high density of foreigners and you’ll see. Go to Tiancifang, Jing’An Temple area, actually the whole French concession, the compounds with high foreigner density, such as: Shanghai Raquet club, Tomson golf villas, Shimao Riviera Garden, Shimao Riverside, Gao Jing Road, Hongqiao Road, Hongmei Road, etc. pp. Most foreign guys you’ll see will be with their Chinese wives and/or girlfriends.
            And no, I am not talking about my social circle, because in that group, ALL, except 2, are married to a Chinese woman. That would make it roughly 90%. In general, I’d assume that 60% of the foreign men are married towards a Chinese, or do have a Chinese partner.

          • BoraBora

            Sigh..that’s disappointing, and I was just looking forward meeting you in person.

          • BoraBora

            By the way,I’m a big fan of your inconsistent stories, from pub and now to Tiancifang, Jing’An Templ,Shanghai Raquet etc.

          • Germandude

            Dude, congratulations. You surely trolled me hard and earned the Chinese medal of awesomeness. Go ahead and brag about it in front of your girls.
            Sad part is, I don’t believe that you trolled me. I just think that you are too stupid to understand ANYTHING that I tried to explain to you.

          • SAO

            This is very true. I don’t see much white men/Chinese women couples in Shanghai also. The amount of Chinese women who desire foreign men have indeed decrease a lot.

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/5054057/Chinese-women-find-foreign-men-less-attractive-in-financial-crisis.html

            Younger generation of Chinese women these days are not interested in foreign/western men. Usually, if you seen white men their Chinese wives/girlfriends, 8 out of 10 chances are, the girls are from older generation like late 30s or more.

          • chris

            lol my ex gfs were all 90后。。。

          • SAO

            Then you are in the uncommon group.

          • Mr. Mutual

            Women are all the same, dutch girls goes for black, white men left behind.

          • Mr. Mutual
          • jxs9

            So basically the money dried up and they didn’t like them anymore. This is exactly why you don’t want to marry Chinese/Korean women. Biggest golddigers around.

          • Shanghaiman

            Same here. It seems to me some people here like Germandude have been brainwash into believing the wrong thing. I also don’t see much foreign men dating western men here in China.

          • Germandude

            Man, LEARN TO READ. Then, LEARN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST READ.

            I wrote: “You are right, MOST Chinese girls are not interested in foreigners and don’t have a foreign boyfriend. Not surprising actually, considering the low number of foreigners in China and the odds that most girls don’t have any contact with foreigners. Contrary, more than half of the foreign guys have a Chinese girlfriend. Which is also no surprise, considering that most of the girls they’ll meet will be Chinese. SURPRISE!?”

            Don’t you understand the difference? I tried to explain why it is that most foreigners that live in China have a Chinese partner, while most of the Chinese of course won’t have a foreign partner.
            Come back to me when you have sth valid to say that differs from “have been brainwash”. Not my fault if you can’t understand what was being written. Blame your government, blame your teacher, blame your school, blame the bad foreigners, I don’t give a shit. Just make sure you don’t lose face again when you have no clue about what is tried to be brought across as a message.

          • Shanghaiman

            Duh..I’ve also come across plenty of single foreign men in Shanghai also.

          • Shanghaiman

            Duh…I’ve seen plenty of single foreign men in China.

          • Germandude

            Oh my god. Pro-tip: blame your teacher…

          • Shanghaiman

            I’m already grew up, have daughters and sons. Live in Shanghai for more than 40 years. I don’t need teacher to tell me what’s going on.

          • Germandude

            No, but you need to learn to understand what somebody else wrote. So, blame yourself.

          • Shanghaiman

            Just because there’s more foreigners and more Chinese girls come in contact with foreigners that does not mean there will be more Chinese girls ended up with foreigners. There’s many single foreign men who visit China but many still remain single. That is why I said there’s plenty of SINGLE FOREIGN MEN in China.

          • Germandude

            Ok, then again: blame your teacher. Mathematics teacher to be precise.

            You wrote “There’s many single foreign men who visit China but many still remain single”. Right! But SOME will marry towards a Chinese woman.

            I didn’t doubt at all that many single foreign men will not marry a Chinese at all. I just said: Foreigners that stay in China and marry, most likely marry towards a Chinese. Because most of the women they will encounter in China are, surprisingly (to some it appears), Chinese women.

          • Shanghaiman

            Only some single foreign men will end up marry Chinese women. Ok, I can agree with this. It’s in line with my observation.

          • Shanghaiman

            Only some single foreign men will end up marry Chinese women. Ok, I can agree with this. It’s in line with my observation.

          • Shanghaiman

            WOW! I must be getting old that I click the wrong reply button.

          • Dr Sun

            I don’t know dude, but I’ve lived in China a long time and all the white guys I know all have Chinese wives or girlfriends and very few of us go to bars very often and even fewer of the guys I know met their wives at a bar.

          • Alphy

            Very true. I almost never goes to bar, and neither does my friends in my circle, which are mostly expats. I believe all of them either have Chinese girlfriends or wives. It probably has to do with how there are very few expat females or people who come here with a full family.

          • linette lee

            ……………..Which is also no surprise, considering that most of the girls they’ll meet will be Chinese. SURPRISE!?……………..

            Are you sure they are Chinese girls and not aliens? lol….;)

          • Germandude

            How would I know? Sometimes I get the impression I am living on another planet…

          • Kate

            If China is similar to Korea, then many girls wouldn’t want to be with a foreign man because of the prejudices. I frequently heard from Korean men that Korean women who slept with/dated the foreign guys (even worse if the guy is black) were ruined, sluts, no morals and dirty women and ugly, the ugly ones always jump on the foreign guys because they can’t get a good korean guy because they’re ugly. I once saw a korean woman/black man couple with kids, and a group of korean men were talking and later my husband said they were saying “what ugly half monkey kids” . So anyway I imagine most chinese women know most foreign men aren’t going to hang around for forever and don’t want the stigma of dating them that native men will place on them. Its all messed up anyway.

          • http://twitter.com/21tigermike Michael A. Robson

            If you’re a mixed couple in China you get ugly stares when you walk on the street. Mostly they (total strangers with no lives) will stare at the girl, they’re trying to make her uncomfortable so she’ll break up with you, etc. 中国欢迎你. You never want to be compared to Korea in the racism department. Ouch.

          • SuperHappyCow

            You’re fucking making that up. Probotector told me racism doesn’t exist anywhere on the planet.

          • http://www.facebook.com/rosemon.pilot Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            Those particullar Korean men need to brush up on thier history….They’d all be getting bent over by the “dear leaders” son today had it not been for Black soldiers who fought and died for thier kimchee smellin asses! Koreans can be and are amongst the most racist mf’s ever.They’ll talk shit about a mixed Korean/Black “monkey” kid….until said “monkey” kid grows up and does a great accomplishment like say…win the Superbowl…Then Koreans will stick thier chest all out all proud and claim the “monkey” as one of thier own! Look no further than Pittsburg Steelers player Hines Ward…Thankfully he saw right through the fakeness and called them out on thier BS!

          • kevinnolongerinpudong

            No stigma if their boyfriends don’t know, hehe

          • Lulu012

            “Korean men that Korean women who slept with/dated the foreign guys (even worse if the guy is black) were ruined, sluts, no morals and dirty women and ugly, the ugly ones always jump on the foreign guys because they can’t get a good korean guy because they’re ugly.”

            this is just sick.

          • Blam57

            lol, korea is hilarious, not all black people are the same, its just you idiots all take in the regular stereotype in the media, look beyond the horizon and accept peoples happiness, just because one ruins it doesn’t mean we all are the same, i treat foreign women excellent for me being a black man, i know my morals, if you can’t see past my appearance, then you should just fuck off and die in a hole, simple as that.

          • jxs9

            That seems to be men in almost every country. Men don’t like foreign men dating “their” women. They already have enough domestic competition they can’t compete with so they get angry at foreigners. And a guy calling some chick a slut for being with another guy is nothing new.

          • jambam

            What else should the foreign guys date??? thousands of western girls in wuhan ?? lol

        • RScott

          Actually, it is so easy to get laid in china that many foreigners , are telling the truth, but it is hard to believe because others cant do it… You have no idea how open chinese women are.. It is great, but they have to be prepared for the let down… Some win some lose… Its all just a little game…. Do you Racist Chinese People) really want to carry everyone else’s baggage…?

      • BoraBora

        And yes, the person who make this articles are obviously loser who can not get girls and instead of improving himself, he put the blame on foreigners.

    • ScottLoar

      “Not another one of these stupid posts!” Yes, you’re right.

      “Don’t join in in the debate!” No, you’re wrong. There is no debate on this, just gushing from the weird, the resentful, idlers and bobos.

    • ric

      lol truth cutting a little to deep yang? why don’t you just leave!

    • Brett

      You clearly do not understand what the point of this website is. Who ever said that this translation is from a real conversation? When has chinaSMACK been about journalism. It’s a blog. You want journalism go read CNN.

      I hardly belive that chinaSMACK has any influence as to how the world sees expats in China.

      Also, I want to point out that chinaSMACK didn’t create any of the stories about foreigners, Chinese girls, or Chinese guys. They translate what the Chinese netizens themselves are talking about. So I don’t see what the problem is.

      Anybody in the mainland should take this with a grain of salt…

    • linette lee

      1) depict foreigners as guys who come to China to fuck their way through, They are usually rejects and can’t find jobs in their own countries.
      2)Chinese girls as materialistic and in it for the visa, an they are all whores and cheap
      3) and Chinese men as narrow-minded nationalists that are sexually frustrated and ugly small penis.

      That is pretty much it for every article about foreigners and chinese in China.

      • The Enlightened One

        You are right Lintette. This is EXACTLY how the rest of us guys in China are starting to be portrayed as… and articles like this one and others posted for the Chinese to read are very damaging. It seems like this stereotype is starting to grow:

        Foreign men are just all losers that can’t get a job. They take advantage of poor innocent Chinese women as use people whenever they can. Most are English teachers because they have no other skills other than teaching their own language and are irresponsible and sleep with their students. They go out and drink all the time and cause trouble then the government lets them off easy… so we should hate them all!

        What about the foreigners that go to the gym regularly? Started their own businesses or came here to contribute to the growing economy? What about the ones that marry Chinese women and treat them well? What about the ones that treat Chinese with respect EVEN when they are not treated with respect in turn?

        Yeah, that’s why I am preparing to leave China. It seems I don’t even exist here. Like Mark Kitto suggested… you can love China but China will certainly not love you back it seems.

        • The Enlightened One

          Soon China will be happy when they truly do run all the good foreigners out of China due to alienation.

          If we are all trash, then trash you shall receive!

        • linette lee

          hahaha…go to Hong kong . You and your wife will fit right in.

          By the way. Those China girls are NOT INNOCENT. They know what they are doing. The ones that are sleeping around trying to get hook up with white men for green card are not innocent china girls. The white dudes sleeping around getting laid are not innocent. Those losers and whores deserve each other. You and your wife and many many many other Chinese/nonchinese married couples are truly lovely. God bless you and your lovely beautiful mixed children. :)

          • Gaius Baltar

            Those losers and whores deserve each other

            Just trying to get this straight in my head, forgive me, because I am quite a plain,simple young man from northern england, and even the biggest city near me, is nowhere near as dynamic or sophisticated as Hong Kong. If a white guy has a chinese girlfriend, then that makes him a loser and she is a whore? What about a girl who wants to stay in China and does not want her western boyfriends money, what then?

          • linette lee

            no no no, you misunderstood me. this is just what I am thinking. I am just saying in every country you will have losers and whores who are players and sleeping around or cheating….etc…. Then you have those who are serious and married for love and race don’t matter. I am sure many bloggers here are in those serious chinese/nonchinese marriages or relationship. Nothing wrong with interracial marriages or relationship. But don’t go bashing chinese men calling them ugly and can’t get laid. Or chinese women are all easy and cheap. Just like you don’t like it when chinese people call you loser can’t get jobs in your own country.

          • Gaius Baltar

            Linette, I will respond if I may. I am sorry if I misunderstood you. I taught Hong Kong students for 1 year and loved it, they loved to talk, were able to debate well, just like you are. Of course there is good and bad in every race, my only concern is when everyone gets “tarred with the same brush”. I haven’t bashed chinese men in my posts, and I know one HK chinese guy married to a pretty english girl, and they both live together in Guangdong province. About all chinese women being easy and cheap, sorry can’t 100 percent agree, a lot of them will have sex with rich white foreigners, I’ve seen that happen. And as for your last part, Chinese people can call me a loser, I’m happy to drink cheap chinese beer and eat chinese food and have no girlfriend. Hope you enjoy chinese new year, gong xi fa cai or for hk, gong hey fat choy!

          • linette lee

            I am glad you like Hong kong. :)

          • Gaius Baltar

            Oh I still think it is a great place, I have a friend still working out there, and one HK friend working in Macau. Hope you enjoy your holiday:)

          • http://twitter.com/21tigermike Michael A. Robson

            Yes, anyone who has sex must be evil and contemptible. Or something like that. By the way, this is your reward for learning Mandarin… being called filth, scum by the locals. In HK they’ll do it in Cantonese, so you can’t hear them ;)

          • Gaius Baltar

            I understand some cantonese slurs, but it is like water off a ducks back to me. And you?

        • Kate

          I think China is also ignoring the very real fact that many economies (US included) are in realllllllly bad shape right now and jobs for young people and grads are verrrrrry hard to find (partly thanks to exporting jobs to china and the likes irony). If people could find a decent paying job with healthcare they would stay in their own country, but the reality is that in Europe and the US those jobs are very scarce now (53% unemployment rate for grads now, many are back to living at home and working non degreed jobs). It isn’t that they are losers at all, its that their country has failed them. So they go to where jobs are (and for the chinese to complain about that is just plain ole hypocritical considering how many chinese live abroad working in US jobs and the fact that US jobs have been exported to China to give the chinese jobs while taking away from Americans). People go where they are offered jobs and since that isn’t in their own country, they go else where.

          I forsee european and american grads going overseas to work much much more in the future because of how badly things are going at home. Instead of the chinese being so scared/hateful towards foreigners they should see it as a great way to make a more diverse culture and besides the kinds of people immigrating to china are the kind of immigrants one wants (college educated and skilled) as opposed to third world immkgration like what is going on in the usa with all the illegal mexicans

          • Gaius Baltar

            Kate your post is a good one, and I’d like to respond.

            Instead of the chinese being so scared/hateful towards foreigners they should see it as a great way to make a more diverse culture

            Don’t think this will ever happen. If it is not hating on the foreigners, then it is always the wai di ren, xinjiang ren, etc etc.

            and besides the kinds of people immigrating to china are the kind of immigrants one wants (college educated and skilled) as opposed to third world immkgration like what is going on in the usa with all the illegal mexicans

            Yeah, you think they would offer citizenship, but they don’t. As salaries (for ft’s) remain static, most will not stay.

            The west has rebuilt China, so it is justified for westerners to work there.

          • Kate

            Thanks and I agree, unifying stupid poor people through a common hatred. A lot of wealth in china is directly due to the american consumer and america has invested heavily into the chinese economy and vice verse, the whole world is globalizing. With the female shortage in China, Chinese men will HAVE to find women from other countries to replace the chinese women, so they need to get use to uping their attractability if they want a wife.

          • Gaius Baltar

            I did read some taiwanese men are now seeking wives from vietnam and other places, and I think some chinese guys are also following suite. But then what does that say about chinese women if their own men don’t think them suitable wives, and are willing to marry other asian women? Off topic from your point though of how the west has invested in China. Problem is they will want to take away the aviation industry from the EU countries and the USA, and imagine the loss of jobs that will cause, that is looming in the next 5-10 years.

          • linette lee

            I don’t think USA have to worry about its economy. I can’t say the same thing about EU. USA will continue to do well as long as the usa gov’t maintain its status as a land of the free and equal opportunity, and promote racial diversity. Foreigners from all over the world will continue to come in with their skills and investment because they like the USA gov’t system.

            http://www.hackleyrobertson.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/News-story.pdf

          • Gaius Baltar

            Thanks for your reply Linette. I think not everything is perfect in the USA, just as it is not in the eurozone. If Russia and the former soviet countries ever get their “eurasian union” going and a single currency, do you think that might tilt the balance?

          • linette lee

            Do you think eurasian union is good for those countries? I am not too familiar.

          • Kate

            I hadnt thought Of china taking over The aviation industry but I can kinda seeing that, although with as bad as a reputation that china has as far as quality, I can’t imagina americans trusting a chinese air company enough.

          • The Enlightened One

            There are just some things you can’t comprise quality and cost on.

            Air planes is 100% one of them.

          • Gaius Baltar

            Airbus wings are made in China, but they go to Wales (UK) for finishing. The way it is going though they will be made and finished in China. Their own commercial plans are developing as well.

          • linette lee

            Then China needs to step it up with tight inspection and regulation.

          • Germandude

            Well, since it’s rather difficult to “find women from other countries to replace the chinese women”, a huge group of disappointed and angry men is created. And whenever such a thing happened, what was the outcome in the end?

          • linette lee

            I think china can start giving out citizenship to foreigners who wants it.

          • Heo Hak

            The west did not rebuild China.

            The west DESTROYED CHINA with OPIUM.

            You bullied Japan into opening its ports as well.

            You white pieces of imperialist shit now dare to go to East Asia again to lord it over everyone and try to act like upper class kings and queens when you are nothing but hairy, age-like shit, limp-dicked, sour-milk, fugly ass cavemen/women who belong in mud huts in Europe where you die from bubonic plague at 40% of the population.

          • Probotector

            Everything you said is correct, problem is, Chinese don’t care.

          • Kate

            China should care. The thing is I see white men getting bent out of shape over articles like this (I completely understand why) but the thing is, that chinese people who exhibit these kinds of extreme xenophobic tendencies, who hold these kinds of prejudices are just hurting the image of themselves more then anything. It makes people, like the author of the article, just look simple and backwards and jealous. To be able to raise ones reasoning above such inaccurate generalizations and say “hey a whole group of people can’t be summed up so simplistically and ifbi were them I don’t want to be generalized like that” requires a certain amount of intelligence and empathy. It makes one more intelligent to acknowledge that instead of blindly following such hateful stereotypes. Its probably all down to how little exposure and interactions the average chinese has with a foreigner. If you don’t know about something, you take other peoples word even if their word is nonesense (which is why writers of such hateful remarks shouldn’t be given more publicity). We have people like The author in the US too, but they normally hang out on stormfront.

          • Probotector

            Again, what you said is all true, but again, also, Chinese don’t care. When the majority of people in a population as large as theirs all believe the same things, truth is irrelevant.

          • Heo Hak

            WHat about yourself, you white bitch, with your white supremacism and “mightier than thou” attitude.

            Take your white supremacist shit and go back to Europe.

            No, not the USA.

            FIghting terrorism since 1492.

            You whites don’t belong anywhere EXCEPT EUROPE.

            GO BACK TO EUROPE, BITCH.

          • Claude

            Actually, she’s married with a child with a Korean man.

          • Heo Hak

            Which one of you fuckers deleted my comment?

            I don’t give a shit.

            I have met plenty of racist ass white women attracted to Asian men but these white women still believe they are superior and that the white race is superior, which is of course utter bullshit.

          • Peter Wilton Cushing

            Evidence?

          • linette lee

            I think it’s a good idea for China to open more up to attract skilled foreigners and investment immigrants. Bring money into china and skills to improve China economy and technology. Make China more racially diverse. That is how USA is doing. USA attract investment and skilled immigrants. So many chinese migrate to USA and bring in investment money and build businesse which create jobs. Foreign students studying in USA college paying full tuition fee, which is good for college business. China can definitely copy USA immigration model and use it to improve their economy and technology.

          • Kate

            Yes and no. The US immigration policies are horrible and a mockery now. The problem is the US allows huge influxes of third world immigrants—i.e people who are poor, have no money to invest in the country, send american money to their homeland instead of it being reinvested into the economy, who bring drugs and violence and gangs (because of their poverty), who are not educated, cultures that don’t encourage higher education, and who live off american taxpayers (for example they aren’t paying property taxes but yet their children attend public schools but they aren’t paying the tax that pays for the school….they also bring down school ratings on standardized tests due to their children being ESL and also how migratory they tend to be(. China does not want those kinds of people, it will ruin their culture like itbis the USA. China needs to be strict about immigration, discouraging illegal immigration harshly, and only allowing educated foreigners and people wanting to invest in the country. The fact that any chinese would bitch about highly educated and skilled foreigners in China is just laughable. They have no good reason to oppose such immigration, as it only helps their country. The only reason these men bitch about foreign men is simply deeply ingrained insecurities they have. They don’t think they are as desireable as foreign men (penis envy) and thus call for extreme xenophobia. China would only hurt itself to be hostile to foreigners, considering they are beneficial and there are millions of chinese living in other countries, so it goes both ways yet white men aren’t bitching about all the chinese guys with white girls are they?

          • linette lee

            Usa has make their immigration policy more strict.

            “Attractive Immigration Policies: “A worldwide fight for the skilled
            workers
            Nevertheless, during the last decades “immigration policies in the advanced economies have shown a recent tendency to shift toward a focus on attracting high-skilled workers.” This
            recent “race for talent” among developed countries is easily understandable. In a society which is daily more specialized and industrially advanced, highly skilled individuals capable of performing highly qualified jobs are a coveted asset, even more so in those industries, such as the sector, in which developed countries present a shortage of workers with the required formation or experience. “Add to this the fact that highly skilled workers generate substantial economic value and wealth”.

            http://www.upf.edu/iuslabor/012008/EEUUManuelMartinez.pdf

            I think the problem with USA is welfare and people abusing it. It’s important to have welfare but don’t abuse it. Give it to people who really need it. Also there are many illegal immigrants they come in illegally and they are entitled to get all benefits without paying a dime like public school and medical. That really hurt the usa economy.

          • Kate

            Great post Linette!

          • linette lee

            Thank you, yours too. I do agree immigration policy must be strict for both country USA and China. China has a lot to learn from USA in terms of multiculture and racial diversity. With such shortage of chinese women very soon chinese men will be marrying non chinese women. So they can’t bxtch about foreign men. Foreign men married chinese women shouldn’t bash chinese men because her father is chinese.

          • dim mak

            Ladies, what you are both proposing, no matter how reasonable, would be met with howling accusations of xenophobia and racism in the West just for trying to limit immigration alone, regardless of what kind

            And when that happens all logic goes out the window and people start calling each other bigots, etc

            And if you don’t want to be a moral/political pariah, you have to accept them no matter how shit they are for your country

            If there is to be any sort of rational discussion the US would first have to rid itself of identity and guilt politics, and China would need to keep it from entering ours

          • linette lee

            Why is it xenophobia and racism for a strict immigration policy? Every nation has the right to pick and choose their “guest” and set up an immigration policy that will benefit their own economy.

          • The Enlightened One

            Not yet, but that may certainly change with all this kind of anti-foreigner bullshit running rampant. I heard about a good few foreign guys going back home and singling out Chinese males to harass due to the crap they put up with here.

            I don’t think this is good, but that’s just what happens.

          • Heo Hak

            Penis envy my ass. Asian men are not envious of limp white dicks that need viagra and age like shit.

            You white pieces of shit so believe in your white supremacism, why don’t you all go cram yourselves into Germany ?

            I can guarantee that many Asian American men such as myself who have seen the true face of white supremacism and hatred for East Asian men will be starting a movement in East Asia to castrate all white males who want to live there.

            In fact, white pieces of shit already regularly get beat up in East Asia, which is a good thing.

          • Heo Hak

            White men do not bitch about Chinese guys abotu white girls my ass.

            You white males were so insecure in the past in the USA that you made laws FORBIDDING Asian men from being able to marry white girls.

            You also use your Hollywood western media to portray Asian men as badly as possible so that you can socially engineer the fabric of society and brainwash women to dislike Asian men.

            Examples like
            2 broke girls

            or William Hung.

            When was the last time a handsome, strong, muscular, romantic/sexually attractive, skilled (in martial arts or some other form of fighting), played a leading man and has a sexual relationship with a beautiful white girl on screen?

            Never. This has never fucking happened.

            Whereas you have plenty of TV/movies where some white douchebag is paired with an Asian girl.

            That is called social engineering right there.

            Bruce Lee even had some of his romance scenes cut out by request by Hollywood because they didn’t want Asian men being portrayed as sexually desirable.

            The reason Asian men haven’t been desirable to white girls is because of your propaganda as well as the slut shaming that white culture does.

            I have witnessed this, where dating a white girl, then the white girl later says she can’t take the harrassment from white guys anymore because white guys hate white girls dating outside their race.

            Most black men have also experienced this in the past.

            But now that blacks are much more ;powerful and white limpdicked losers get the shit beaten out of them by black guys a lot of times, now most white guys shut their mouths while watching their girls get fucked by black guys.

            So white guys in their insecurity must turn to Asian guys to try to bully Asian guys to feel better, and using dishonorable methods such as Hollywood media brainwashing to achieve this.

          • Heo Hak

            Shut the fuck up. The USA is not white land and never was.

            China is only for East Asians.

            East Asia is only for East Asians.

            You white pieces of white with white privilege and your western imperialism and colonialism and western media-colonialism/cultural imperialism should GET THE FUCK OUT AND GO BACK TO EUROPE.

        • Heo Hak

          Shut the fuck up you white piece of shit.

          As a good looking, muscular (strong enough to crush your phaggot ass white supremacist necks and lift you up) East-Asian American guy born in the USA of Japanese and Chinese descent, I know your white-supremacist arrogance well, having been bullied all my life simply for being asian, until I beat the shit out of you white-trash pieces of shit and made sure that some of you were/are never able to walk without a limp ever again.

          The attack against East Asian men is a global phenomenon led by the USA and western white-supremacist Hollywood media.

          Many American girls would dismiss me simply because I am Asian.

          But I know I am actually attractive to women, just not to white supremacist pieces of shit like you anglo-whites. Plenty of Turkish, Scandinavian, Kazakh, and Russian girls have expressed interest in me, and from well-off families, not poor girls looking for money, not that I have much money anyways. And they didn’t even want to converse in English, because they hate Hollywood and the way Hollywood does its best to sabotage the image of Asian men.

          The only reason many Chinese or Asian girls may like white guys is because of the white privilege you white pieces of shit have due to western imperialism, and because of the manipulation you white pieces of shit employ through Hollywood and western media propaganda to portray Asian men as badly as possible, every rare time Asian men are even portrayed.

          You white pieces of shit used opium to destroy chinese society, raped Chiense women, raped Korean and Vietnamese women that you were supposedly “protecting” from the communists, raped Okinawan Japanese women, and then imposed your white supremacist ideologies on East Asia and used Hollywood to promote white supremacism through the media.

          You only gained your position through dishonor and manipulation.

          There is nothing impressive about it.

          All you limpdicked white kunts are a bunch of lowlife dishonorable losers who wouldn’t be shit if you had to actually work your ass off to achieve something yourself, instead of relying on white privilege or people who buy into white privilege.

          So kindly shut the fuck up and end your unworthy lives.

          And yes, keep gloating.

          The more angry you make the hundreds of millions of justifiably-angry young Chinese men, the better.

          Because in a war today, you whites are dead meat. Something like you white pieces of shit taking advantage of your white privilege to abuse/take advantage of Asian girls is major shit that has already gone on long enough.

          Asia has nukes now, so MAD means that conventional warfare is possible.

          In conventional warfare, numbers do matter.

          Since Chinese and East Asian tech in general is now on-par with the US and the US army is becoming more full of non-whites who resent whites by the day, and also has many unhealthy people, due to obesity and disease in the USA, your white supremacism won’t last much longer.

          East Asia is already beginning to unite, which is why America/the USA is shitting its pants and desperately trying to paint East Asia as evil to the world through its media.

          But everyone knows you white pieces of shit are the most evil.

          -Slavery of blacks

          -Intentional genocide of Native Americans (Asian looking as well)

          -Mass raping/sexual slavery of Native AMerican women

          -Defacto slavery of Chinese American immigrants and massacres of Chinese American settlements

          -Sending Japanese Americans to concentration camps while the all-Japanese-American-male 442nd fought loyally for your white supremacist ungrateful dishonourable-pieces-of-white-shit asses

        • Peter Wilton Cushing

          Your new photo looks even more like this dude, very scarily alike, wow!

      • Gaius Baltar

        You are right, but what about western gay guys. I bet then the poster would have a grievance against them that western gay men “convert” chinese men and thus are harming chinese reproductions. Westerners can’t win it seems!

    • http://www.facebook.com/rainie.payne Rainie Payne

      Journalism?

      Did you read the name of this website? It’s called “ChinaSMACK.” I mean, that should make it pretty clear that this website isn’t about journalism or being unbiased. And this webssite is doing pretty good at it’s job: “ChinaSMACK.”

      If you are coming here to get your news, you are making a HUGE mistake. The problem isn’t the website, its YOU.

    • http://twitter.com/ohfuckinreally awhellno

      No, it’s a tabloid. ChinaSmack died many months ago fyi. Any recommendations for a quality China blog?

    • Justin

      THANK YOU!
      Well said!!!
      This idiot obviously has no clue what he’s saying and he’s making white guys,like me who never dated a chinese girl or lived in China,to create hatred towards All Chinese.
      Dumbfuck!

  • dim mak

    In short, bitches be crazy

    True all over the world

    • hun

      Thanks :D.

    • Joanna

      LOL. you are actually right.

    • Gay Azn Boi

      And they wonder why there are so many of us…

      • laoshu

        You just made my day :-)

  • http://twitter.com/yayotg yayotg (中文规性:古亞倪)

    such a bunch of crap… but I somehow wait for the part 3: it could be the most interesting

    • Ale Jandro

      not actually

    • donscarletti

      Part 3: Why Joe is not my real dad and should stop defiling my mother’s purity.

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    Is he still going on about it?

    Geez with all the effort he puts into ‘information gathering’ if he focused that on his social life, he’d already have a girlfriend.

    Or he might be doing this so he doesn’t have to come out of the closet, I dunno.

  • PixelPulse

    How can a poor French guy be an English teacher?

    • YourSupremeCommander

      Cause he’s got a big dick? I dunno, wild guess.

      • Gay Azn Boi

        Yeah I think that’s the most likely reason..

        • SuperHappyCow

          *door creaks open*
          *checks if coast is clear*
          Okay, votebots, you know what to do! Downvote GAB’s comment, go go go!

          *bots downvote my comments instead*

          MY MINIONS HAVE TURRRRNED AGAINST ME!

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            I think it’s between you and Mr. wiener on who’s the most hilarious poster on this board. Also who has the funniest username.

          • SuperHappyCow

            : D I think you’re pretty, too. :>

          • KAMIKAZIPILOT

            I think you need an avatar like most of the other posters who post regularly on this website. Something to do with a cow since you seem to be obsessed with them, which is hilarious but also a little disturbing.

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      Cause his skin is white, that’s it. Only rudimentary English speaking skills required to teach English in China as long as you have a certain skin color. That’s how ignorant some Chinese are. Sad but true.

      • PixelPulse

        That, Im afraid, can be true on many cases but for this article Im sure he doesnt even exist. I honesty hope nobody believes this fuel article but Im just being optimistic.

        • SuperHappyCow

          Seen it, too. D:

      • Appalled@everything

        Very true. Seen it myself, and quite a few Indian (not being racist) “Teachers” too work in ESL in China, who are really, really hard to understand when speaking English. It is a pissweak industry and I’m glad to be out of it.

      • Gaius Baltar

        You are right here, I was walking along with a beer, when one annoying chinese guy wanted me to work part time at his kindergarten, I played dumb and pretended not to know any english as I was russian, he still insisted I work for him as I was white.

      • http://twitter.com/21tigermike Michael A. Robson

        Either that or the story is made up BS by some scrub working at 顺风快递

        • KAMIKAZIPILOT

          Could be made up, after all this is the internet, but it’s also totally believable for a French person who’s second language is English to be teaching English in China.

    • SuperHappyCow

      By being white, silly.

    • Gaius Baltar

      Where did it say he was poor?

      • SuperHappyCow

        In the article, butt nugget. :>

        Man, Gaius was my favorite BSG character. So glad he got all those stupid humans killed.

    • thmswhnr

      You would be surprised. At many schools, the qualifications for English teacher are:

      1. Be white.
      2. Be able to speak some English. Doesn’t matter if it’s native or even proficient.

  • SuperHappyCow

    “I really like that kind of relationship, open, transparent, fair. I got sexual pleasure, while the girl got money and new clothes. Everyone is very happy.”

    “Then before long, I heard that this girl had sex with one of my friends, and what’s more, this friend was very promiscuous, who very quickly dumped her afterwards, leaving her very heart-broken.”

    W….What? “Kettle, you MOTHER FUCKER.” *slaps kettle*

    While I was “over there” I met dudes that were perfectly agreeable, but seemed to be all about picking up women and throwing them away with the condoms. I think if women in East Asia could put less emphasis on paleness, wealth, or both, this would happen a lot less. D:

    • Alejandro

      “I really like that kind of relationship, open, transparent, fair. I got sexual pleasure, while the girl got money and new clothes. Everyone is very happy.”

      It seems the way rich Chinese treats their xiaosan

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      I agree with you about putting less emphasis on paleness and wealth. Maybe you should change your name to “Irritated/sometimes angry cow”

      • SuperHappyCow

        I’m never angry on the internet. Its just trolling bro. The only thing in the world that can make me GODDAMN FUCKING ANGRY IS THE ORIGINAL MARIO KART. You know, I once garroted a guy with an SNES controller during a professional tourney? It’s true, I made it up.

        Shhhh, don’t tell anyone.

        • Appalled@everything

          Read the terms and conditions of posting on chinaSMACK before you openly admit to trolling next time, otherwise you only have yourself to blame when you get banned.

          • SuperHappyCow

            Cows never troll. What are you talking about?
            Cows also never lie.

            Find me a comment of mine where I instigate inflammatory discussion, and I’ll bake you a giant penis-shaped cake that you can glide into my b-hole.

            But if you do find it, you’ll have to ask yourself: “Did he do it on purpose?”

          • Guest

            Find me a comment of mine where I instigate inflammatory discussion, and I’ll bake you a giant penis-shaped cake that you can glide into my b-hole.

            But if you do find it, you’ll have to ask yourself: “Did he do it on purpose?”

        • KAMIKAZIPILOT

          If trolling is posting something outlandish purely to get a reaction, then there are a hell of a lot of trolls here. You talking about Super Mario Kart back in the 1990s? Where you had I think 8 racers, that was one of the best games ever. Loved that game, used to play it for hours. You’re secret’s safe with me, and everyone else on this board.

          • SuperHappyCow

            Trolling, yeah. I’m still not entirely sure what that is, yet. According to the “official” definition it has something to do with making people angry for the sake of it. Been on the internet a long time and can’t remember the last time I did that. Unless trolling trolls counts.

            Anyhow, I left a lot of bodies on that Donut Plains 3.
            R.I.P. Donkey Kong Jr.

  • One for all

    East Asia REALLY needs to sort out its inferiority complex…..this is beyond embarrasing!

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      Truer words have never been spoken.

    • slob

      Bottom of the article -

      Differences Between Chinese Men and ‘Laowai’ Foreign Men
      Foreign Men Boast About Sexual Conquests in China, Reactions
      “Chinese Women, Please Don’t Sleep With Foreigners”
      Lulzworthy

      • RScott

        Jealosy has many faces…. All chinese men are good men, right? Ha ha ha

    • Commander

      The winner takes it all! The white loser takes it all stupid Asian women pussies…:) So, the white is actually a loser but also a winner in term of ‘having easy Asian pussies’ :) A loser will always match the Stupid.

      • Zappa Frank

        considering milions of chinese men who have sex only with prostitutes i wonder how many of them would like to be “white loser”.

      • RScott

        Your English is unclear…

  • Mr Nightcat

    Not to try and nit-pick, but just to add to the end – at the end of H’s story the author adds an extra comment which cements his feelings about H marrying that capable girl. He comments that after hearing H’s explanation he knows H is with her for one thing and one thing only (which comprises of one character/一个字) – implied heavily to be money (钱).

    Adding this to the end would complete the section more fully. Again, sorry if I look like I’m trying to act smug in any way, I’m not, the detail just came back to mind as I was reading.

  • Joanna

    I LOLed when they said us Chinese girls are stupid. Now that’s new. I always thought Chinese girls were materialistic. HMMM.

    • SuperHappyCow

      Why would those things exclude each other?

  • do better chinasmack

    boring article

  • http://karmaeconomics.blogspot.com/ lavista4u

    Being an Asian myself. Asians in general are very narrow minded. They are jealous and envious. I mean common, Asians including the Arabs to Japanese must have slept with over 100 million white women in the west at least in the last 100 years and what does white man do…Mehhhh…

    He don’t give a f**ck…Its the same crap in Korea as well..Koreans not liking white guys picking local women.

    Asians need to stop whining and grow up. Western civilization is very mature, accommodating and liberal while Asian culture tends to copy the west but forgets all the good parts.

    • CoolAsianGuy

      I beg your pardon. I think the white guys would give a big f**ck, search Keni Styles and see how much negative his videos get. Living in the US and UK for 7 years I can certainly say that immature people are everywhere.

    • DragonEggOmlet

      HAAA…yeah right. The truth is, that despite economic prowess etc, ethnic groups are often envious of physical attributes. This would be the main reason for white men who would not even classify themselves as being racist having such a problem with white women dating African American men. Peoples mentality is not always as progressive as they’d like to pretend and the truth is not always PC.

      • SuperHappyCow

        You won’t believe how consistent it is to see outright racist comments even from people you assumed were perfectly agreeable because of shared conversation. It gets more and more common, yet whenever you call someone on it, they pretend to not be racist, or homophobic, or misogynist.

        my history diploma told me that fascism = nazism and all the nazis died on normandie beach so we never have to worry about racism forever the end

        • Probotector

          You spelled Normandy wrong. Also, you still whining about this? Are you sure you’re not just seeing racism masking your own insecurity?

          • SuperHappyCow

            whats funny is that i spelled it right actually but i was just being silly so who cares look my caps button is broke again

            i love you, bro. meet me at the altar in your white dress.

            but srs, i wasnt talking about you or your mom.

    • Reila90

      Which Asian? just because you’re Chinese your words doesn’t represent entire Asian.

      • mr.wiener

        Sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander darl. By that logic as a Taiwanese person you are not entitled to an opinion here either.

      • The Enlightened One

        LMAO… oh nice glad you made there… still gonna tell me you don’t wish you were Japanese?

        • The Enlightened One

          *flag – before you just had the Taiwanese flag.

    • SuperHappyCow

      I love that people imply that race xxx doesn’t give a fuck, that’s bullshit. Anyone would give a fuck if men from another race were treating women that looked like you like sexual objects and throwing them away. It would be illogical not to. Fact is, Chinese men and Asian-American men don’t get that kind of play from white women.

      Granted, women wanting men for wealth or “genetics” is absolutely nothing to brag about, and makes me wretch.

  • Joe

    http://bbs.tianya.cn/post-funinfo-3470275-1.shtml Here’s a quote from another posting that guy made “ 对,我很讨厌白人” The whole article was about how Chinese should hate ALL white people and stop discriminating against blacks.

    • Joe

      the “” triggered some weird code thing. The translation should be “I very much hate white people”

  • HEMINATOR

    This is terryballs! Prepare for war boys!

  • mr.wiener

    Second bite at the cherry!!. Well, when you’re on a good thing stick with it I guess. I’m predicting this one won’t do as well…..700 comments by the end of next week, even with Chinese new year on and people stuck at their parents houses…anyone else care to hazard a guess….?

    • quake

      we do have ipads ya know

      • mr.wiener

        I was actually suggest people will be bored witless and hitting the computer as a result.
        My wife wanted an ipad, I bought her some knee pads :)

        • laoshu

          mine got a G-Pod :-)

      • SuperHappyCow

        QUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE.

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      Based on the current rate, I’m gonna have to go way lower. 400 comments within a week. I don’t know how much more people can beat a horse that died a long time ago. The winner gets to fart on GAB’s face.

      • mr.wiener

        He might like that.
        I used to be into necrophillia, sadism and beastiality until I realized I was just flogging a dead horse.

        • KAMIKAZIPILOT

          Took me a while to get that joke but I finally got it. I wonder if you’re one of those guys who thinks himself hilarious and laughs histerically at his own jokes only to look around the room and see no one else laughing, and if they are they’re only laughing at how bad the joke was. That’s how my attempt at humor is as well many times.

    • Kate

      I think 550ish this time :)

  • Appalled@everything

    Wow. Speechless. Talk about scripted, contrived and one-sided.

    So the first guy (Stereotype 1.0) only wants to meet girls for sex, and he is happy to be used, and happy to pay, and thinks girls in China are the worst because they are the least like prostitutes? Chinese girls are crazier in China? Um, reality check, girls are crazy EVERYWHERE. This foreign guy doesn’t want any kind of meaningful relationship it bugs him that Chinese girls prefer not to be objectified, and so the author uses him as a basis for assessing all foreign men in China? Alrighty then.

    So the second guy (Stereotype 1.1) is French, and an English teacher. Poor, AND an English teacher? He has a job and he lets the author pay? Everytime? What rubbish. Never happened, and if it did, it is because the author is an asskisser and this Frenchman had no respect for him, or there was something else going on that we don’t get to learn about here. Stereotype 1.1 was poor in the description one moment, and decadent the next, and this “Disgusted” the author? He was meeting girls, and dating (believe it or not, this is a better way of finding the right partner, before settling down, as apposed to marrying the first girl you meet out of University. I know, how fucking “Decadent!”)

    So it is said that he sleeps around (which is pretty much both of these guys m.o., so there really is NOT a wide range of foreign men surveyed here to draw conclusions from), somehow he has no ability to prevent unwanted pregnancies, and then meets an older woman whom he is comfortable marrying for her wealth. Horribly repugnant and transparently selfish this pact clearly is – (except when it is a Chinese girl marrying an older, richer, uglier man, because then it is totally OK) OR – he actually does love her and the author can’t look past himself to see it.

    Um, if I wasn’t already unimpressed by the stupidity of the author from part 1, and unimpressed by his lack of research, and unimpressed that he draws conclusions from men who are clearly, clearly playboys and from a mile away anyone could see that they are looking for tail, and nothing more, then now I am just bewildered that the author took the time to type out something so ridiculous, without any proper basis or clear comparisons and presenting something that is so utterly, utterly subjective and biased.

    I met crazy in China, I met shallow, I met superficial, I met lonely, I met conservative, I met freaky, promiscuous, flaky, desperate, insecure, self-centered and narcissistic and do you know what? So what! Girls, ladies, Women, all over the world, are the same, they want the same things, they deserve the same respect, they need the same love and they suffer the same as anyone else, and CRAZY is in women’s blood, everywhere, Chinese are girls are no different.

    This author has his head right up his ass, and, no offense intended, I am inclined to think that he is gay, and jealous that his sister-compatriots are getting the foreign men when he is not.

  • 9symphony

    I don’t know why people like to blabber on and on in these kinds of post.
    I’ve been in china for 8 years, and have been married to an amazing (Chinese) wife for 6 years. (and no! she has never lived abroad)
    every couple has problems no matter where they are from. or where they live. people are just people, and the world is full of 7 billion different people.
    hopefully, you find what fits you the most and make it work.
    these kinds of post end up only doing one thing. promoting hatred, racism and ignorance among people.

    funny though… the china opens up, the more it feels like they don’t want to.

  • Justin

    Once, I was sitting at an American-style diner in Beijing waiting on a to-go order outside and smoking a cigarette, I couldn’t help but overhear these two assholes talking loudly beside me about their sexual conquests.

    They were most likely American or Canadian judging by their accents (not that I’m generalizing here about the character of people of those particular nationalities, because I too am American). One guy launches into a story about how he took a girl back to her place, but they couldn’t go in because her mother was there sleeping on the couch, so he took her to a public bathroom to do the deed and she starts breaking down crying because she was a virgin and she didn’t want her first time to be in a place like that.

    The whole time, this dipshit is laughing about it like it’s something to be proud of, though I’m pretty sure his whole story was a load of horse shit because it doesn’t add up. Why would the girl take him back to her mom’s apartment for sex, knowing that of course she’s going to be there?And I just don’t see a girl who is a virgin having a one-night stand with a random foreigner either, but that’s not necessarily beyond the bounds of credulity. Anyways, the whole story smelled of bullshit. It takes a special kind of asshole to make up something like that, and if he didn’t make it up, then he’s just as fucked up for a) trying to have sex with a girl in a public bathroom in China (gross and grosser) and b) being proud of that.

    I’m not going to say all foreigners in China are sexual tourists with a mercenary perspective on the opposite sex, because I would be speaking ill of myself, but there are more than enough here to warrant the stereotype.

    There are plenty of foreign gigolos around too who 吃软饭. I knew this other guy Lance. In his 40s. He had wandered around the world for a while doing odd jobs– worked fishing boats in Alaska, traveled around Korea and South America, worked as a Hollywood agent (for Tom Sizemore apparently, bfd) — and wound up in China writing curriculum for RISE. He was in China for about two or three months before hooking up with Ms. Deeppockets, a divorcee and producer for CCTV. She hooked him up with a new job, a Land Rover, and a bank account with 50,000 yuan worth of walking-around money. Needless to say, he got hitched to her pretty quickly and now he’s really living the high life– taking exotic vacations all over the world, eating fancy dinners and whatnot.

    Yeah, all this is pretty anecdotal, I know, and you can’t really generalize. Where I work now, there are plenty of foreigners who don’t meet the stereotype. Many of them are career journalists from well-known newspapers who have families. I, for one, came to China, to learn Chinese, work in the newspaper business, live cheaply AND yes, to meet women. However, I don’t feel like I fit neatly into the stereotypes. My girlfriend and I have been together for going on three years. We have a loving relationship based on love, mutual respect and equality. But if there weren’t some kind of factual basis to the stereotypes, I doubt they would exist. That’s just my 二毛.

    • KAMIKAZIPILOT

      It would have been perfect if you had smacked those guys at the diner upside the head. Or at least told them off in some way. I bet those jackasses wouldn’t be doing the same thing if you replaced Chinese with African-Americans or Hispanics.

      • Justin

        I was really tempted to call bullshit on the guy’s story and tell him what a piece of shit he was, but I hadn’t received my food order yet and I didn’t really want this awkward moment after that.

        • KAMIKAZIPILOT

          I hear you. If I were in your shoes I probably wouldn’t have done anything either, but it still would have been cool on your part if you did. I bet those two knew they were being assholes but didn’t really care.

    • Appalled@everything

      Your comment was a hundred times more insightful and intelligent than the original article. Cheers.

    • rusty

      Yes, awesome response. Thank you.

    • Gaius Baltar

      That guy lance seems to have lived an interesting and charmed life. Good post!

  • Bugs Bunny

    some are good some are bad…everywhere.

    i also dated some rubbish chinese guys.

    everyone has his story and luck.

    i just do not understand why my friend after married a white man, always talks like she is much better than me. she got married, because she is smart, she is ….

    to make her feel better in front me all her life time i told her i am still single.

    • linette lee

      So in China for majority of the china women, white men are considered superior even without master or doctor degree? What if the white men are not professional and just work in a clothing store. Will the white men still be considered more superior than Chinese men with master or doctor degree who are professional maybe like a CEO or accountant.etc. Professional chinese men or non professional white men. Who is more superior for china women in general? What is the mentality of the china women inside China I am curious.

      • Bugs Bunny

        the salary level in china is very low unless your doing IT or finance or tech…even english teachers make much better money than average IT or whatever.
        those guys who can make good money much above average are very picky,i do not think they want those girls go after foreigners much either,to be frank just, most girls i know go with foreigners are just average. difficult to hook up high level local guys too.i dated two guys who doing good jobs in 500,make money maybe a bit better than english teachers also good looking, but they both have smelly mouth.but when i told my friends i was dating a guy from IBM, they all a bit jealous.
        that’s my experience.

        • Laoshu

          well am told by the Girls that the main reason they like to date “white” guys is cos they are going down on them whereas Chinese men don’t..

          • linette lee

            hahahaahaha….you are so bad…………

          • Bugs Bunny

            i do not know what kind of dirty low class girls your with.5ds

          • Gaius Baltar

            Chinese men don’t go south of the border?

      • radbab

        You compare things that infer status – a CEO position, a degree, without mentioning personal and cultural traits. Maybe you’ve just answered your own post ;)

        • http://twitter.com/21tigermike Michael A. Robson

          It’s called being shallow.

      • hess

        My father is a CEO, and he don’t even have a Bachelors degree..

        • linette lee

          hahah…you are funny. What type of CeO…..I have a feeling I will regret asking this.

          • hess

            I’m funny? He’s the president of his own company, located in Stockholm. The company provide various Municipalities with IT solutions. While he don’t have a bachelors, he do have a diploma

          • Germandude

            careful, next question she will ask is if your dad is driving a BMW and if he can afford buying LV bags ;-)

          • hess

            Haha, he hates BMW and drives a Lexus. I doubt he would ever even consider buying LV bags. The “Law of Jante” is strong in Sweden.

          • linette lee

            You crazy.

          • Germandude

            Yeah, I know that. Crazy in a positive way.

          • linette lee

            oohh..I see, he is an entrepreneur. Very nice.

            I admire entrepreneur. Especially those men and women who don’t rely on inheriting their family money, instead they start from the bottom and build up their own business. They are amazing.

        • Bugs Bunny

          CEO of feeding pigs.

          • hess

            That would make him a farmer, no?

          • Germandude

            That COULD make him Bugs Bunny’s PROVIDER

      • Gaius Baltar

        I’ve seen a white man working as a salesman in one shop and one working for the mtr as an engineer or maintenance staff in Hong Kong (possibly fellow brits who didn’t want to return home post 1997!?). I’ve also seen homeless white people in Hong Kong. I wouldn’t know or care about the mentality of chinese women inside China as I don’t intend dating or marrying one.

      • http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

        A lot of them is obviously very confused and ignorant of their own views. They don’t really know what they want or bother to think about what a relationship is, besides blindly follow an idea. They don’t think enough is a big part of the problem and have unrealistic expectations. Otherwise they wouldn’t be so foolish to sleep around and then decide to regret their actions. That’s why there are crazies galore.QED.

  • The Enlightened One

    Let’s be fair now!

    Foreigners like this do exist in China and in somewhat of an abundance. I have PERSONALLY ran into foreigners like the ones mentioned above. But then again, people like this exist around the world. I have ALSO seen Chinese men like this too.

    The first foreign guy, is fine in my opinion. He is upfront with his desires and it is the girl’s fault if she continue to request more from him. The second was a total retard but I have met foreigners like this and they did have a very similar track record.

    HOWEVER, this article is bias and the author should feel ashamed. Can he provide only these two examples? It is my opinion, that perhaps he only has a FEW foreign friends and decided that this small group must encompass how ALL foreigners act in China towards Chinese women.

    Where is the category for foreigners like myself that are married to Chinese women from families that are not rich?

    • thmswhnr

      I think cases like the two mentioned in the post, where a foreign (i.e. white) guy gloats over his exploits of Chinese women, get much more publicity than the cases where a foreigner and Chinese person have a healthy relationship and live happily ever after. The latter case is boring and has no use in getting people excited/disturbed and does not play to any preconceived notion of racial exceptionalism (as applicable), so it won’t get much discussion or consideration.

      The more people know about something (foreign guys’ serial promiscuity with Chinese girls), the more they believe that to be reality, and from there they can increasingly ignore anything that suggests the contrary.

  • DragonEggOmlet

    Seems to be written by a Chinese man with a very big chip on his shoulder. And furthermore this ‘author’ of fiction has a clear agenda and is playing to what he believes are other Chinese men’s insecurities. He may be wrong, as it’s pretty transparently done.

  • Asian American

    I’m an Asian American. Let me tell you all that these Laowai spoken of here are not representative of the men and the values held most dear in America. We have a name for such people in America — trash. The traditional values of China are the same as the traditional values of the West. These trashy Laowai would never be held in high respect from the countries they come from. So, China and especially the young, please hold true to those traditional values. Be patient with yourselves and your country. You are just undergoing a culture shock. China opened too fast to the western world. The west looks at your traditional values with admiration, I assure you.

    • SuperHappyCow
  • http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

    What great stereotypes represented here. I didn’t read the entire thing, but was there a fat old American man that likes to molest young women? Let me guess, he was poor and unable to get a job in America so he came here to teach English, right? Also he can get a lot of girlfriends here by saying sweet words. Am I right? I really don’t care to read this tripe.

    • mr.wiener

      Nope a German who sounded suspiciously like Cola banana who liked Japanese chicks but would go down market while he is in China and a French guy who married his sugar mummy. A quality pair of laowai to be sure.

      • http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

        He married a rich woman? I figured this article would bash foreigners, but that guy sounds pretty smart to me.

  • Asian American

    And, to this person interviewing these kinds of Laowai: Interview someone else. Please! I am sure that there are good foreign men in China, men who respect women as they would respect their mothers and sisters.

  • Jay K.

    these posts are wesome keep them coming!!!

  • Reila90

    This is starting to get funnier wwww

  • Brett

    I don’t know what everyone is bitching about, I found this and the previous article hilarious and extremely entertaining. It’s just a bullshit story some guy wrote because his girlfriend left him for a foreigner, or some other reason he has a grudge.

    Goodness gracious, calling the cSMACK mods “fuckers” and what have you, but for translating a blog post is a bit over the top.

    Here’s an idea, everyone who felt genuine anger at this post, take a deep breath and bash your head against your computer screen.

    Cry me a fucking river you bunch of pansies.

    • mr.wiener

      Not you’re normal suave self Brett? How’s the rugglet? Well I hope.
      I’m enjoying these articles also, but the amount of penis measuring that has ensured has been a bit much.

      • Brett

        Lol, yea I lost my cool there. One of my employees broke a 13,000 dollar piece of equipment this morning and I’m sick on top of it, so we’ll just say my real life mood effected my posting today.

        Baby is sick too, but still gaining weight. 3 months and 7.5 kilograms not bad. How’s everything over on the little island that could?

  • BoraBora

    Not this shit again.

  • BoraBora

    A said: “In the past, I’ve stayed
    in Japan and Thailand. I feel when compared to Japanese girls and Thai
    girls, Chinese girls are more SB, more annoying, more unlikable.”

    ‘When I was working in Japan, I developed several relationships with Japanese girls, which were of the so-called compensated-dating
    type. I really like that kind of relationship, open, transparent, fair.
    I got sexual pleasure, while the girl got money and new clothes.
    Everyone is very happy.’

    It’s pretty obvious this guy is a loser who got rejected by Chinese girls and can only get girl with money. Real men don’t do that.

    China Smack translate the opinion of a loser and reader in China Smack fall for it as if this one loser represent the entire Chinese guys.

  • linette lee

    These articles in CS are making laowai looking like horny losers.

    • Gaius Baltar

      And is that a good or bad thing in your opinion? I am hopeful it is the latter?

    • http://twitter.com/21tigermike Michael A. Robson

      All men are horny, that’s why every guy in your precious 香港, go to 东莞 on the weekends. Enjoy.

  • rusty

    Chinasmack is nothing but a culture porn site. Time to close up.

  • christina

    can we have something about the pollution in beijing? much more interesting and impactful than some guy’s musings on white guys & asian girls. or are chinese people not talking about the pollution levels right now?

  • Vladimir P.

    I really think these chauvinistic articles should not be published on Chinasmack because they are a waste of time and space. It is annoying that the writer directly claims that ALL foreigners are white trash and that they are using innocent Chinese girls who end up hurt because of their naivete. That is not true.

    If you say that you are interested in Chinese culture and you are a foreigner, that does not mean that you are lying or saying it as a pick up line. My major in university was Chinese, I speak the language, I have MA degree in Chinese culture and I have lived in China for almost seven years.

    I would like to ask the writer of these articles to coffee if he can tell me these things to my face. My treat:-)

  • radbab

    The idea that he actually has a choice about these matters seems to escape him. Nobody is forcing him to behave like one of those “evil foreign devils” whose methods he despises, but apparently getting laid is more important to than sticking to his own “high” standards. What makes it even more sad is the whiny tone and that he decides to share his great “findings” with the world.

    If he doesn’t like how the foreigners behave, why tell everyone about the “lessons learned”?

  • skewwhiffy

    Not surprised that such a casually racist writer has such dicks as friends.

  • filabusta

    Sounds made up anyway. Like he heard from a friend that his friend knew this foreigner that…

  • cm

    I spent 8 years in China. 2 years dating Chinese girls. 3 years with a steady girlfriend and engaged and 3 years married. Now we will have a baby. The plan is to leave China after the baby is born for 3 reasons.

    1 Pollution. 2 Healthcare. 3 Education.

    During my time dating I discovered many different types of girls in China. Some adventurous, loving travel instead of material things. Some selfish and boring. Others artistic and engaging. My wife being the best in the world…not just China. I had a difficult time convincing her and her village(everyone in her village is family) that I would take care of her. This was because of the negative stories about foreign men being unreliable circulating around China. It has been this way for years.

    • Yang

      How did you meet your wife? And where are you returning to? Just curious, sorry.

    • http://twitter.com/21tigermike Michael A. Robson

      Congrats on GTFO. It’s the Chinese dream. Good luck with the inlaws.

  • wingedgenius

    HOLY MOLEY!!! The German man here has ZERO ethics. ZERO morals.

    He *is* in fact “white trash”, pure and simple.

    And he thinks he isn’t?! And he is calling the Chinese “stupid, very insane”?!?!

    I despise these kinds of people!!! The reactions he’s getting from the Chinese women are WELL-DESERVED!! Kudos to those women!

    ———–

    However, when women threaten their own health just to get a man to pay attention to them, I believe they need help…

  • MonkeyMouth

    I sincerely doubt any of this is true. I bet there is no German “A” or French “H”.

    • Probotector

      German A could be Albert
      French H could be Henri

      But yeah, they’re most likely bullshit stories

  • MonkeyMouth

    If this is from a popular blogging site, and has gone ‘viral’, then where are all the Chinese comments? Also, I smell a rat being that the new chairman is quite xenophobic. This is quite possibly a false-flag operation.

    • Germandude

      The last paragraph of the article:

      “Part 3 includes what the original poster believes are common myths Chinese women have about foreign men, and translated Chinese netizen reactions to the overall post. Part 1 can be found here.”

  • don mario

    lol, blatant propaganda piece.

  • Jhonny -kun

    Based on my experience, The most Stupid among Asian women are Japanese women. You can F**k them till pregnant but they never push u to marry them. they do abortions by themselves, go to doctor by themselves. No need responsibility from the man who f**ed them at all! you are free! Japanese women Stupidity are amazing!

    • vincent

      haha right…the only Japanese women you’ve probably seen are the ones in AV. ‘Based on my experience’ hahaha

      • Germandude

        Yes, but he haNd them all without hesitation ;-)

        • vincent

          haha that’s a good one, let me try, I bet all that experience came in hand-y :D

          • Germandude

            no challenge for a hand-some man

  • vincent

    Chinese women aren’t whores and foreign men aren’t pimps, instead of writing such a useless piece, the original author should try finding a girlfriend. Being a virgin can mess with your mind, as can be seen by this piece of garbage article. Not looking forward to part 3 of this inflammatory piece.

    • http://www.facebook.com/shailesh.das.75 Shailesh Das

      right!

  • Dk

    China smack had earned respect from everybody because they posted the truth n never took side. Well this article is such horse shit, utter rubbish it’s shocking. Ur website has gone gone down to shit/dogs’!! The first story is total bullshit, Chinese gals are free “my ass”!! Who the hell is this idiot tryna fool. China smack is goin down to shit as well,

  • Daniel Tynan

    Stories sound true enough to me. Especially the one about girls becoming suicidal when a breakup is pending. Experienced that one.

  • AnthonyLudovici

    ChinaSmack is going downhill….

  • donscarletti

    I just bothered to read this article.

    A German who did “compensated dating” in Japan, quoting all the Tianya tereotypes about Japanese girls. Apparently frustrated that girls in China don’t ask for financial support in exchange for sex like, um, German girls do?

    A Frenchman who teaches English, married for money, doesn’t wear condoms and think taking a girl to a hospital to get an abortion is normal, rather than pissing himself thinking that he could be financially crippled by a paternity suit like back home.

    Funny how these foreign dudes learned about love on Tianya.

    Anyway, the point is making is simple:
    Foreigners should pay money for sex, just like he does.

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