From KDS:
This morning on the Line 1 Metro startling revealed a man with extremely heavy/strong taste, with pictures there is proof
Comments from KDS:
不勃不精彩:
Is it not okay for others to like eating chocolate abalone?
三秒完事:
My god~
Dragpo:
The guy cannot possibly satisfy her, must use an electric vibrator.
Baiken:
After seeing Lou Jing, I can no longer determine whether or not this girl is African.
鸟笑歪了:
A TF with a sense of justice, getting revenge for Lou Jing’s “dad”.
doggystyle:
The photograph captures the point, NIGGA’s have great butts, this friend has good fortune
哇啦哇啦:
Amongst blacks, [she] is considered not bad
Moreover, [if he] can satisfy a black, obviously has an exceptionally long…
天山七剑:
Black people’s butts, both tight and perky
mark:
[I] commend [him/this], winning honor/glory for the nation!
爱熟:
Actually, finding this kind of person to have sex with is very satisfying/great
D～陈叁仟:
I admit I am a little unable to accept this.
水蜜桃冰王:
Lou Jing’s FANS.
大傻猫:
Nobody noticed!!
That is [Tracy] McGrady’s wig~~~
喵里一只庙:
This girl must be McGrady’s older sister…
YP, the guy must be an YP…
梁操唯:
Her appearance and body are not bad.
Two black legs holding you…
oh my, this is what heaven is!
人工智能:
Turn off the lights and they [women] are all the same.
As long as there is no smell.
木桶伯:
Black girls can only be looked at from afar and not touched up close, PG [pi guo, 屁股, butt] covered with thick anal hair, terrible feeling, neither is it comfortable once you are doing it. Not much different with white girls also, though of course a bit better than black girls. To sum up, Asian MM are still better, with smooth butts, feels good.
艾絮清:
Love’s power/strength, love has no borders.
高潮路:
This girl likes it from behind, look at the knees:
Andy McNab:
LZ, your’s is not pure!
[not as pure as the one in the picture below]
1261:
This post shows,
that with us holding the Olympics and soon holding the World Expo,
our country’s overall strength has increased a lot.
I believe in the near future,
there will be sons and daughters of various skin color
on the subways of our country’s many cities
being embraced and kissed by our country’s men.
@少年@:
Don’t say [his] taste heavy/strong, it is that this girl has a healthy body. Once the lights are off, what guy who not want to try?
NOEL:
[His taste is] not the least bit heavy/strong, [he is] wining honor/glory for Chinese men.
Who said it isn’t possible if you’re short?
幽摩鬼:
Soon there will be a yellow-skinned LJ [Lou Jing] born in America…
it is time for an American black father to wear a
[green] hat…
胖子:
**, this girl is probably not mixed, yet she is relatively whiter/lighter than some who are mixed.
This shows that Lou Jing’s mix is absolutely a failure.
小唐僧:
I feel black people’s skin is far more fine/exquisite than white races. I used to often see black girls when I went to work, very attractive!
Find a non-racist girlfriend or boyfriend on the chinaSMACK personals!
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First? Reminds me somewhat of Jacky Chan’s rumble in the bronx.
LOL!!! Yes, it most certainly does.
chinese people only talk racist shit when its african men/chinese girl, but they embrace chinese men/african women haha
it’s the same everywhere!
You’re damn right.Chinese men hate to see a black man hanging with their women so they talk all that racist bullshit indeed and here we are with a Chinese lusting after a black chic and trust me,it wont stand coz this Chinese cant satisfy a black woman.He’s wasting his damn time and those folded arms is sending the message if you motherfuckers don’t know
Oh please. What an absolutely pathetic comment. It doesn’t even make any sense, you fucking cunt. Now THAT makes sense.
I dont see anything wrong with a relationship between two racially different people. Its rather depressing to see the Chinese society accept a white/asian relationship whereas black/asian relationships are condemned. Its racist.
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Pusan,
Black people created you. Ask your momma. Where’s your momma you ask? Well, once she went black, she never came back. Yo.
I’m gonna hope you’re trolling by portraying a poor Korean stereotype. Look up “Cradle of Life.” Congratulations. Also read: Korean pop culture = poorly done ripoff of African-American culture + Japanese culture. =3=
korean pop culture is a poorly done rip-off of african american culture? thats what you call Brittany spears christina agulara, backstreet boys and nsync? seriously? you can have that garbage if you want to claim it as your own culture.
Don’t underestimate the value of purple drank – Chinese people haven’t even figured that shit out yet, despite the fact you can buy the syrup over the counter here… now if only i could get my hands on some grape soda..
You are stupid if you that is true!
Moron!
Today Internet exists…going look for answers to your questions before saying things you don’t know about…
Yeah, black people didn’t invent anything of value, like radio frequency mass spectrometer, specialized software, uses for peanuts and hundreds more uses for soybeans, pecans and sweet potatoes.
It’s all there: http://inventors.about.com/od/blackinventors/a/black_inventors.htm
The problem is more reflective of the socioeconomic level of PUSAN PLAYA. He only seems to watch MTV.
Crack a book and get high on KNOWLEDGE. Fool.
I guess in China they don’t use light bulbs or traffic lights when they are chasing black men away from their women or stalking black women to get inside them. If they are able to see what they are looking at in the dark and do not get into an accident while chasing, thank the black person behind those two accomplishments. Oh, wait, they were Americans too.
You total twat.
Viva Le Part Deux!!! Viva!!!
My exwife is african, I’m white. The culture differences will seem amusing at first, drive you crazy later and but will eventualy lead to divorce. If you want to marry someone from a different culture you have make sure you understand this and be very patient. My exwife was a nice person but it took her forever to do anything.
hmmmm.. sorry, wich country in africa is she from?
Am sorry but its ashaming sounding such stupid in this century.What is the difference between black ad white?
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fuck you we come in all different color shapes and sizes. I hope you fall to sleep in the sun you prick
And they’re IQ’s are 15% higher than most of America’s youth and their population is also 5X that of America. India also leads the world in Highest IQ’s and competent workforce (technologically advanced and smarter cheaper labor). Why do you think our jobs are leaving America and going over there? Because we have dumb asses like yourself who are preoocupied with being ignorant rather than educating your self. You’ll be working for them soon, so get used to looking at your shit – your the problem in this world and soon you’ll be in the minority, with no rights and working in an “American” Sweat shop. dipshit – grow the f*ck up.
Judging from your comment, your grasp of English seems tenuous at best.
Xio, and your point?? I hope you are not some ignorant fool who is implying your ex’s slowness was due to her being African??
that is what happened to you…and may not happend to others…
many mixed couples survive though their cultures are different…
maybe you got a bad luck my fiance and I are doing great
Maybe you didnt encourage her
LMAO at the poster who suggested that Asian butts feel nicer than a black or white woman’s (ESP. a black woman’s). Someone’s definitely still a virgin… Asian women have nice features too, but T&A definitely are not the strong suit…
they dont have a butt usually but they have pretty faces
I find it irritating when all Black people are assumed to be from Africa and people talk about Africa like it’s a country.
I’m also finding reading Chinasmack is really making me lose interest in China. Brings back many bad memories from when I lived there. So much racist sleaze.
If the only people left in the world were internet trolls, I would never leave my house. Don’t give up, there’s still a lot to see.
I know it’s wrong to stereotype, but stuff like this just makes me feel as though every Chinese man has a complex. I just assume every Chinese guy I meet is like that unless he possesses the effortless cool of some of the newer generations.
That one poster thinking that it was the Olympics that finally made Chinese men attractive to foreign women is hilarious… and really, really sad. It makes me wonder how much of the uber-nationalism in young men could be explained by Freud. Not all of it, or even most of it, obviously, but there does seem to be something there. How much of that racism/sexism (cheering on a Chinese guy with a black girlfriend, loathing a Chinese woman who cuckolds her husband for a black man) is just personal projections of sexual insecurities? How much then, is the idea of a “strong China” equated with the idea of a “strong Chinese man”?
Ultimately though, there’s this moment in time where most Chinese have a very limited interaction with other races, as well as what appears to be a rather ethnocentric education that just breeds ignorance on racial topics existing in a roughly homogeneous society that acts like a giant echo-chamber. All this in an era of communication where foreigners are able to listen in and be a bit horrified/disgusted by what’s coming out. Hopefully as time goes on, the increasing integration into global culture will further remove the racial bias, but there is a long, long way to go.
Couldn’t agree more on this.
Absolutely. This couple has nothing to do with Lou Jing and it’s a pretty twisted mind that sees redemption here.
If some of these guys got away from their monitors for a few hours and actually talked to some other human beings face to face, they might be less inclined to spew such ignorant bullshit.
I POST IT OVERTHERE BUT I COULD HAVE POST IT ELSEWHERE…. PEOPLE PLEASE… STOP ALL YOUR RACIAL HATING I COULD TELL A LOT ABOUT IT BUT I DON’T WANNA SEE SUCH STUPID THINGS ANYWHERE…
Good point. I’m glad my self-worth and self-image are based on my country’s.
In my experience it is not just (racist) Chinese guys who are like that. Most of the racist white guys I’ve had the misfortune of encountering were much more against interracial couples where the woman was white than those where the man was white. I even met one man who was okay with dating Asian women but thought a white woman with any kind of non-white guy was disgusting! Personally I think it is because guys who are racist a lot of times are also sexist…they think women who are the same race as them are kind of their property.
Am I the only one who thinks these pictures do not show a couple?
To me, it seems they even don’t know each other.
Her arms are closed, and she got the iphone earplugs on in the last picture.
Seems like a bet or a drunk guy.
That said, yes, Chinese people are a bunch a crazy racist people. There’s no need to debate on this.
I 100% agree with G.you are very smart guy. This was really a racist drunk chinese bitch who just ask for a picture with this beauty queen.It show later in the pic.she is seating closed with a black guy.
I have to agree with G. in the last photo he’s either changed his t-shirt and jeans or it’s a different person. I’m not saying it couldn’t happen but just not in this case. Didn’t any of the Chinese posters pick up on this??
There will always be an issue with mixed-race relationships as long as men equal sex with dominance.
Who said Chinese people accept White/Chinese relationships? They obviously don’t encounter many groups of drunken Chinese or old ladies.
My favourite post:
‘Turn off the lights and they [women] are all the same.As long as there is no smell.’
He obviously hasn’t been with many women. The only difference is there smell??????
The first picture shows a third person on the far right, wearing a white t-shirt and light colored jeans. The last picture this person is obviously sitting next to the woman. I think that the pictures were part of a prank, that this man in the stripped shirt asked the woman for a kiss as his friends snapped pictures. Just one man’s opinion…
Some-booties ain’t got nooo imagination!
Some-boobies ain’t never ridden da subways…
Wit partners who git off different stations…
Cos some-dickies ain’t never had a partner…
So know not da penetrating joys of doggies…
For a crying lack of imagination!
It must be horrible living as a Chinese person, only and always caring about what other people think. Just when they think they are getting some kind of respect in their social group, they open up to world and realize they are just a little fish.
Fuck you, PUSAN PLAYA. We built EGYPT and influenced the Greeks who stole our technology,philosophy, concepts of democracy, ect which is the main cornerstone of all Western Civilization. You know, the west I’m talking about right? The one that your little backwards Korea has been trying to catch up to for decades now. Hate on all you want, two of my sisters are dating some down ass Chinese dudes that would put your ass to shame. Our families have no problems at all. I’ve encountered incredible ignorance in China but nothing compared to the pure HATRED I had hurled toward me in Seoul and back in the States. As much as I hate to hear my sisters and their girlfriends shriek and gossip over how my future brother in laws hold in down in the sack, it gives me hope that their children and my future kids will be able in a society that can get over this racial hump perpetrated by these racist insecure ass white boys and these dumbass chinese net citizens (i can’t take those fuckers seriously, they’re so ridiculous) and common ass koreans like you. Funny thing is, you got all the Black American stereotypes down pat. You must be a korean-american, who have treated us the worst out of all the asian groups even after we let you set up shop in our neighborhoods. HA, that ghetto trash you speak of, probably put you through college.
Don’t mind Pusan. He’s just being his normal self. He likes to look down on everything and everyone that’s superior to his ass so he can go on living and convince himself that he’s worth the space that he physically occupies.
Ancient egypt and concept of philosophy and democracy? Now, that’s new to me… :>
But what is true that in Ancient egypt the medicine was already pretty advanced as well as irrigation techniques.
No offence intented, but you sound like some Berber fanatic to me.
“You must be a korean-american, who have treated us the worst out of all the asian groups even after we let you set up shop in our neighborhoods. HA, that ghetto trash you speak of, probably put you through college.”
I am not a Korean American but I do have family in America and I’m very familiar with what you describe. Why do Koreans set up shops in black areas? Because there is no competition, because blacks cannot run their own business. What it takes to run a small business isn’t amazing, but is far beyond the abilities of most blacks
* You need an IQ of at least 100, about 50% of whites have this and over 60% of Koreans but few blacks, probably about 10%. Please refer to this if you do not believe me, scroll down one page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_wealth_of_nations
* You need to be a hard worker, most Koreans are hard workers but maybe only 10% of blacks
* You need people you can trust, blacks rob and steal from each other, most of them have no real families because men just fuck without a condom and run away when the woman gets pregnant. Koreans have strong families they can trust
* You need to be able to handle stress, when a black man becomes stressed he starts behaving like a big gorilla yelling and threatening. Most Koreans can handle stress well because they are confident and they can solve problems with thinking instead of senseless anger.
These are the reasons why blacks cannot even set up a grocery store in their own neighbourhood, it is the result of natural selection.
somehow i am sure your are retarded idiot who got his education payed by prostitution mother..
not that whole africa has less colleges than only a japan.
It’s truly hilarious that you’d cite IQ and the Wealth of Nations considering if you scroll down just a little bit, you can see all the criticisms which illustrate the statistical fallacies committed by the authors. I have to say, wow. Just wow. Usually when people are lying to defend their racism (by this I mean you), you don’t have to simply scroll down to prove that they’re a moron.
Josh already covered it, but I’d like to add something.
Maybe you don’t know Stephen Colbert, but he got enough people together so that they were able to change wikipedia to say that the wooly mammoth was no longer extinct. The point being, if you’re trying to make any argument believable, stay away from there “playa” and try to pick something more credible.
* You need to be able to handle stress, when a black man becomes stressed he starts behaving like a big gorilla yelling and threatening. Most Koreans can handle stress well because they are confident and they can solve problems with thinking instead of senseless anger.
LOL. So that would explain the high suicide rates in Korea, huh? Yeah. Koreans are definitely really good at handling stress. Listen to you – you’re going by nothing but your own biases and internet stereotypes. Jeez, and you have the audacity to say that HakNak has a low IQ when you don’t even know what you’re talking about!
White people, you say over 50% have high IQs? No. Many of them grow up in well-off households, barely scrape their way through college and graduate with a D+ then they have Daddy dearest or one of Daddy’s buddies hook them up with a well paying job.
I suppose centuries upon centuries of whites colonizing, killing off in the hopes of ethnically cleansing, converting, and enslaving people of other races is bound to have an extreme effect on their psyche. Pusan is such a case, defending them even when they don’t need to be defended. The personal ass wiper of white people everywhere. Good job. You’ve made your ancestors proud.
Thank you. Just thank you. That was probably the most satisfying thing I’ve read online this year. Chinese are more and more like rednecks the more I read their comments. They eat up that white propaganda like dogs to vomit.
When I get my shit together, I’m going to China, Korea, whatever– and I’m opening up shop, baby.
Listen you smelly dog,
You clearly lack abstract thought. There is a clear and logical reason for that. If you knew anything about American history, you would know that blacks were systematically oppressed and had little to no opportunity. It was not until the civil rights movement (1955-1968), when blacks in America were given basic human rights.
I bet any educated pure African( not influenced by American racism)would go toe to toe with an Asian. Your poor Wikipedia piece proves nothing. Until you have educated yourself about the dynamics of American History, shut your stinky dog breathe.
http://www.aballiance.org/news/nigerian_us_ed.pdf
Data show Nigerians the most educated in the U.S. | Chron.com – Houston Chronicle Page 1 of3
Nigerian immigrants have the highest levels of education in this city and the nation, surpassing
whites and Asians, according to Census data
bolstered by an analysis of 13 annual Houston area
surveys conducted by Rice University
Stole “your” technnology? You cant possibly believe that. Just look at “your” history of accomplishments up until the current state of affairs in the world. Really.
Vury hevy tayste indeed. Squinty man enjoi THICK BLACK chocolate. Wise man say taste bitter as dry shit.
Wut?
Very heavy taste indeed.
Squinty man enjoy THICK BLACK Chocolate.
Wise man say taste as dry shit.
- What is a heavy taste?
- Thick black chocolate sounds more like teh cock.
- How is a wise man wise when he tasted “dry shit”?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fplv67bOC7M
well wise man…you must enjoy eating shit.
I sometimes come to this blog to know more about China today.
Today I realised there are a lot of racists there.
Same here. Same here…
China let me down so bad.
I’m not making excuses for Chinese people or anyone else for that matter but you have to understand very very very few people have ever met a black person before, all they know is black people play basketball and sometimes become the President of the United States. It’s easy to be racist if you’ve never met someone from that race. Especially in China where information is controlled.
By the way, don’t you know the phase ‘All Chinese people are racist’ is racist. Maybe you guys should change your name to mine.
It seems chinese people are soooo racist. And you ask for respect in our european cities??
Hanmurabi please see last paragraph of my last comment.
well, welcome to china, which is the most interesting country in this planet
Guys, don’t jump into conclusion!
As a chinese, i know, i know, i really know china is bad this way, that way and i’ve heard so many complains from tons of people.
But maybe something you guys don’t know that most of those posters are very young and a little cynic or un-rational.
What they were talking about couldn’t stand for all chinese people.
For facts for your information that only 5~8% chinese people are college educated.
I know you guys are all well educated, why not try to be more embraceable
“Black girls can only be looked at from afar and not touched up close, PG [pi guo, 屁股, butt] covered with thick anal hair, terrible feeling, neither is it comfortable once you are doing it. Not much different with white girls also, though of course a bit better than black girls. To sum up, Asian MM are still better, with smooth butts, feels good. ”
LOL as if this guy has ever had sex period, much less any experience with Black women. WTF is up with Chinese men and their fucking insecurities?
He should be happy for this guy, there are more beautiful Chinese Mei Mei’s for the taking, but that guy is probably same nerd in a net bar anyway.
Oh, and fuck you Pusan Playa, if you take everything Black from modern Korean popular culture you wouldn’t have anything left.
There is few foreigners in China,so it’s quite normal to have those imature reaction.I do believe most Chinese have comparatively nice nature,they just don’t know how to tackle racial difference,and don’t know how to keep politically correct.
What did the white do when they first arrival at port of Africa?Hunt the natives for slave.The Chinese traveled to there in the 14th century,they don’t even have the imagination that the hosts can be captured as slave and their land can be colonized,they just show off their fleets and hunt one giraffe.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not equating the Chinese ignorance to White imperialism and racism. I can say the same thing about China, no African nation every colonized China, if they would be racist towards anyone it would be europeans.
It’s hard to keep saying “they just aren’t used Blacks” with a smile on your face. The majority of Chinese people I’ve met are very kind to me, but the racist few can be very obnoxious and stick out.
I’m dating a Chinese guy at the moment if that makes up for anything.
Yeah Jimmy, but you have no idea how real Chinese people hate whites.
Whites and “Asians” (not a race) despise each other. But whites fear us and also want our money. For you guys, they have contempt and want your natural resources but love to molest African children.
It’s a totally different game. Ultimately, it will be the East Asians who bury whites.
Deep. Very deep. I like what I’m hearing.
“Oh, and fuck you Pusan Playa, if you take everything Black from modern Korean popular culture you wouldn’t have anything left.”
damn thats check mate right there man. come on pusan playa, we waiting for your witty retort.
Pusan Playa is just jealous. As a black American I have been to Korea many times and had the best looking women in the country fighting over me. As an American, even black, we are superior to Koreans-even when we go to their pathetic and totally dependant on American country.
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“Every nigger says this. The only women you can attract in Asia are the lower class trash like your single-moms.”
You sound pretty bitter. I bet you have a personal story of one of your own hooking up with those people you call “niggers”. Possibly the girl you wanted to marry, or your mom perhaps…?
You people are really disgusting. First of all, why would any decent Black American woman lower herself to an Asian man? They belong with Asian trash like their mothers. Asian women don’t have any discretion when it comes to sleeping around and nor do white women. Both animalistic and carnal. I am a black woman and would never go with an Asian man. Except to have my poom poom eaten real good. Becuase Asian men have smaller cocks then white men and that’s really sad. Besides why would you chance having a child with a lower race?
A clue about HELLO FRIENDS. The only people who throw around the term “nigger” these days typically belong to a class of people in America called “White Trash”.
These are the people who generally have lower education levels then the average black person. They are poor and feel cheated because they missed out on the time when they would have been considered superior because they were white. Now they resent the fact that they occupy the lowest rungs of society, having been passed up by blacks, Asians and soon Hispanics. So they hold on to their old fashioned racism. Calling someone a nigger is all they have in their lives, no money, no education, no future except some menial job, all they have is that word.
Well, Mr. HELLO FRIENDS, you may have that word, use it all you like. In the meantime I’ll just continue to live well.
But don’t forget to take your shoes off when you come to my house to install my cable and fix my toilet.
The only thing worse than white trash is trash colored in piss.
Sounds like someone is a little sensitive to the subject. The “nigger” you responded to never said anything about penis size, however you brought up penis size; most likely because you are about 3 inches hard on a good day and you feel like less of a man because of it. Don’t be mad because your women love us. But if you’d like to compare size I’m more than willing to. I bet I’m twice your length and girth and I have a higher IQ, you ignorant racist. LMAO at the angry little Asian man.
Pusan Playa has the inferiority complex that all Koreans have. Always been dominated by China, except when Japan was kicking their ass and taking over their country. Nowadays, they are bitter because they are totally dependent on America for their very existence. They can’t develop their own culture so they have to copy American and Japanese dance/music/fashion etc. etc. And after hundreds of years of insignificance, Korea is still nothing but a little sister to real countries like China and Japan. Korea has never been an important country and they have never accomplished anything on their own.
He says a large percentage of Koreans have IQs over 100. A lot of good that has done them.
Pusan Playa (notice how his very name is copied from American culture), you need to look at your own people’s position in the world before you criticize others. I mean, you live in Pusan right? Well it was Americans, many of them black, that saved that city 50 years ago. If it was not for them you would be just like your kinfolk in North Korea, you would not even have a computer to type your childish crap on.
So instead of trying to insult, you need to say thanks, or just keep quiet. Because the people you are trying to put down actually own you and your people.
Don’t get me started on Korean society brother. When Hines Ward came to Korea, he was hailed as a hero and a pillar of Korean excellence, meanwhile mixed race Black Koreans are still relegated to the most menial jobs. Pusan, the Korean Wave that was so predominant is all Black culture and entertainment in a poorly constructed Korean package.
What annoys me about these threads is I can’t accept all this posturing and fake anger displayed by some of these white posters. Its all just an excuse to be racist with the sorry excuse that, “we’re not racist cause we’re defending negroes!” Stop using us to soothe your white guilt. If you’re going to denounce racism, do it without being racist. Look at what happened to my boy, Ron Sims. A Black blogger by the way of Cleveland got roughed up in China by some insecure white boy who was afraid Ron was going to gobble up the Chinese women that he’s so entitled to. But in this devil’s true once again he could not rise to the occasion, haha. http://www.rsims2.com/news/?p=91
I’m not grouping all of you into this category, but a good majority.
And “bleah”, check out the Book, “Black Athena”.
“I’m not grouping all of you into this category, but a good majority.”
Or maybe you’re just an asshole. Quit with the victim attitude, for real. Otherwise, you’re no better than the fenqing you’ve been talking about.
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Fauna… I know you should allow people to express their views, no matter how absurd… but once deadly violence against a group of people is suggested, you really should block them.
@Hellofriends
I was with you on my last comment but you’re totally out of line here. Your anger in this post only reveals your underlying racism against Blacks.
Why are you lashing out at one Black man bragging about how many Asian girls he can bag? If I can recall, thousands of White sex tourists flood into Asian every year just to fuck Asian girls (and boys!)
Aren’t you Chinese? Isn’t your Government tripping over itself to trade with these “shithole subhuman nigger” countries for their oil and natural resources you need to develop you grand motherland country?
How old are you btw? If you’re a Chinese youth what music do you listen to? You do know that Rock, Hip Hop and R&B were made by those same “chimps” you so despise. Are you the type of Chinese who will call me “hui gui” behind my back, but if you saw Michael Jordan walking down the street you’d shit your self?
You should educate yourself about the position the African continent is in; it’s the richest continent in the entire world, producing 75% of all diamonds and yet the people are still poor.
Back in the 60s, Mao Zedong wrote very extensively on the African struggle for independence against Imperialism/Colonailsm and actually called Africans and Chinese brothers in the same struggle.
It seems you are among the masses of Chinese men with inferiority complexes about your masculinity and have chosen to project them onto black people.
Don’t worry, I still love China and Chinese people; I won’t let the ignorant country hicks like you ruin it for me.
@Mike Fish
I never insulted all Koreans. I have plenty of Korean friends and really love the country, language and culture. It just irks me when some one from a country that owes so much to Blacks can have no concept of history nor irony in their comments.
How many Black soldiers died on the front lines fighting for democracy and freedom for Koreans in Korea, but when they got home couldn’t even shit in the same toilet as a White person?
How can a Korean named Pusan “Playa” talk shit about Black Americans and their whole modern culture is a direct imitation of Black American culture?
I’ve never understood that about Asians (excuse the generalization). That’s like me loving Taekwondo, Kimchi, and Soju but when I see a Asian walk down the street I am yelling “ZOMG gtfo of my country you flat face, squinty eye, buck tooth, small dick, me “rove” you long time, zipper head, chinky mother fucker!”
Doesn’t that make me look stupid and ignorant? I hope I’ve made my point.
Mike Fish, I have a feeling Fauna tolerates these racists like she tolerates those racist towards the Chinese. Moreover, she doesn’t seem shy about showing Chinese racism and thus maybe she’s not shy about letting non-Chinese racism shine forth as well…in all its brilliant glory. The only type of people she doesn’t seem to tolerate are those that make comments under different names. Then again, she may block tons of comments/commenters and we just don’t know about it because we never see them.
How funny that so many people come to chinaSMACK to see what a sad state of affairs persists in China, only to prove through their comments how the rest of the world is likewise still locked in the sometimes different but all too often the same sad state of affairs. The more you see, the more familiar everything is.
Oh, I forgot. If Fauna isn’t keen on blocking these sort of terribly comments, we can at least vote them down. Vote away.
“If I had my way very nigger and honkey in Asia would be decapitated.”
See what I mean about his education level? Perhaps you mean EVERY nigger and honkey…
Hey, thanks to the new president you can get money to go to a community college, I suggest you take advantage. But don’t be surprised when many of your teachers are black or asian.
@ BlackAmerican: Amen!!!! X_D
I fucking love you hahaha
This black woman with her PhD and her really good job is very amused by this comment and you are supposed to show how smart your people are? Good thing I have some korean friends who ‘really’ are smart, or I might reach some very silly conclusions LOL!
This is in response to the very first comment in this group by hellofriends.
Come on black men of the world, straight or otherwise (Yes Jimmy I mean you). I know you don’t like Pusan Playa (if that really is his real name…) and for good reason, but why insult all Koreans and Korea? Surely you are being just as racist and ignorant as him. Attack him and/or his mother (the parents are always to blame) but leave the other millions of people who just happen to look slightly like him out of it. Thank you black men of the world. Annoying white boy out.
Amazing what a different reaction there is between a foreign man having a Chinese girl or the other way around. It’s like netizens are putting all of the power onto the men and thinking of women, foreign or not, as trophies in some game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byPSfzfVkvE
chinese people are racists with small dicks.
mistery solved.
LMAO………… The timing!!! gold
The girl on the last pic is HOT HOT HOTTT!!
chocolate on the outside & pink inside ^_~..yummy
Woohoooo!! I love this commnen1!!! (all the other racists stuff is upsetting)
The reason why a lot of people when angry about the Chinese woman with the black dude was because she was cheating on her husband, and to ad insult to injury it was with a foreign man. This situation is totally not the same.
lol I love how this constitutes news or a story in China. If she was some stunner, perfect 10 chick I could see it, but she’s super average.
she’s sexy !!
I APPLAUD this Chinese dude! Good eye and way to pull my friend. She’s sexy and the one in the last picture is cute too. These netizens have issues. Pusan player has issues and anyone who responds to his every key-fart has issues as well.
I mash various flavours of poon with impunity.
I may even mash some Pyongyang Poon next.
To boldly go where no Chinese dude has gone before.. to explore new and beautiful women… to seek out new and exciting pootang, this is the the voyage of the brave n curious Chinese dude!
There is clearly a big difference between the 2 pictures. In the first one she’s just being polite and a bit naive in allowing the guy kiss her on the face with his fake chinese friendliness. I’ve seen it all before and 4 yrs ago when my uk girlfriend came to visit me a few chinese guys acted the same way by asking to be kissed on the cheek or kiss her on the cheek for photos. It sad and desperate. In the second picture the guy sitting next to her is wearing different things and clearly the first guy got off at a stop and who ever was taking these pictures didn’t realized but decided to fabricate an ego boosting story about how chinese men are pulling people of all races now.
The second pictures shows that she has put on her headphones and crossed her arms and not interested in anymore sticky breathed kisses. Im a guy but i do the same all the time with my headphones most days, put on some tunes and ignore the fuck out of people looking at me and bothering me by asking to have a picture taken with them whether racist or not….. im just looking for my own peace and quite and there is no reason why i/she shouldnt be getting it. Just look at the body language and position and the fact that one ear is headphone-less so she can keep her wits about her and easily hear the announcements and any other bored idiots who need amusement.
no need for anymore comments, its all been pointed out.
p.s notice i wasn’t angry, racist or defensive in my comments.
Okay, I can’t take this anymore. This is directed at:
1. G
2. magic man
3. 250
4. Ashley Schaffer BMW
5. So what a chinese man can pose for a Picture
6. Every other idiot who thinks this is faked
I understand that you guys may not read Chinese, but I’m a bit disturbed by your eagerness to jump to the conclusion that it soooo improbable for a Chinese guy to have a black girlfriend in China.
If you read the original source, the three photos were posted in separate posts in the same thread. Two were posted immediately, the third posted quite a ways down. The first two photos obviously show a couple. Short of you calling the original poster a liar (which some of you have with zero proof other than your own inability to accept a Chinese and black couple), I’m willing to believe the poster isn’t lying about what he witnessed and photographed.
The original poster posted the third picture and prefaced it by stating that this third picture was taken later, after the subway had gone above-ground. The poster also said where the black girl got off.
I’m predisposed to believing that the original poster and photographer accurately described what he witnessed, that he wasn’t lying. It is easier to assume that the boyfriend got off at a different, earlier stop than the girlfriend. It is easier to assume that they know each other and are in a relationship instead of assuming that a black girl would let a complete stranger embrace and kiss her instead of 1) saying “uh, no”, 2) glaring at the weirdo, and 3) moving away from the pervert or knocking him the fuck out.
I’ll repeat: They appear to be a bona-fide mixed-race couple. The original poster likely and understandably found this rare and interesting, snapped some candid shots, and then posted it up on KDS for everyone to gawk at…cuz people do this kind of shit with the novelties they see. The different person sitting next to the black girl in the third picture is explicitly explained as being a photo taken significantly later than the first two. Although the original poster does not explicitly state the boyfriend got off earlier, there is nothing to assume about the person next to her in the third photo than it just being another passenger…because, you know, passengers who are strangers to each other still sit next to each other in available seats on the subway.
G: Won’t blame you, you didn’t have the benefit of the third photo’s caption from the original post.
magic man: That’s not a black man’s arm, that’s a fucking shadow.
250: “Just not in this case”? What evidence and argumentation do you have to be so bold. It was the MORNING. Are you assuming this was a drunk Chinese guy molesting a black girl? Occam’s razor?
Ashley Schaffer BMW: OR, the person next to her in the last picture is just an anonymous fellow passenger. Why make a complex theory about pranks and off-screen friends taking pictures? She’s close to the guy in the first two pictures most likely because they know each other. Note how different her body language is in the third, later, photo. This suggests the difference between being seated next to someone you know (who seems to be your boyfriend or someone you’re cool with embracing/kissing you) and someone you don’t, like the stranger who scooted over or took the seat your boyfriend vacated after getting off earlier.
So what a chinese man can pose for a Picture: How could you figure out that the boyfriend got off at an earlier stop yet jump to arguing that the guy taking these photos is some evil imp wanting to fabricate an ego-boosting story? Talk about complicating what really ought to be simple!
To negate your one personal experience with Chinese guys trying to kiss your UK girlfriend, I’ll say that in all my years here, I have NEVER seen Chinese guys be so bold and presumptious as to ask random foreign girls for pecks. So, it’s your one experience vs. all my observations. Pretty much a wash but I’ll get back to this in a bit.
So you say the first guy got off already, but then you fashion the second guy in the third photo as another guy who is pressing himself upon this black girl hoping to give her “stinky kisses”? WTF? What aspect of the photo suggests that the guy next to her is doing any such thing? To me, the photo just looks like a stranger sitting next to her, not bothering her nor offering “stinky kisses.” How funny that you crafted this massive storyline in your head!
“its all been pointed out”…right.
I guess you weren’t exactly angry in your comment but you do sound defensive and borderline racist in some of the things you suggest. If nothing else, you sound deeply resentful and you’re at least wildly imaginative with how you misinterpreted three photos into some devious Chinese male ploy to boost their egos.
For fuck’s sake, people…
You have NEVER seen Chinese guys be so bold and presumptious as to ask random foreign girls for pecks? Haha! You’re not a girl… This is a comment one of my friends got from some guy who wanted “language exchange”: “We can talk for a while and then we can have sex, cause you foreign women like that so much”. And he is just one example…
Chen, I’m not so daft as to think it could NEVER happen but I’m being honest when I say I’ve never seen such a thing personally or heard of it from anyone I know, minus some of you on the internet who claim so. It is just an informed presumption, but I think such phenomenon are exceptions, not the rule. I’m taking issue with the people above who, perhaps not intentionally, make it sound like “this is what Chinese guys do.” I have known many Chinese guys and many foreign girls in China during my time, and I’d be surprised if you want to challenge my contention here. Do you really want to argue for the ridiculous generalization that “this is what Chinese guys do”?
You’re wrong, Kai, the points are all very valid and REALITY here.
You need to do some serious analysis on the body language, combined with all the “we should assumes” to back up the whole it’s a bona-fide couple thing – how often do you travel a subway with your boy/girlfriend and get off at different stops? While it happens in some situations, I do _not_ think it’s as frequently as at the same time.
I happen to know that there are many cases where foreign women are asked to pose for photos exactly like this.
Why would there be any mistrust in the LZ? Well, uh, Kai, are you *seriously* asking that? Do you read forums and think people are all writing up 100% truthes? Come on now, we both know that’s not the case, people fabricate to get more attention and or start more chatter..this is a topic that would do just that.
Rick in China,
You’re joking, right?
1) I never argued that couples get off different stops “as frequently” as they get off the same stop.
2) I believe the weight of the evidence and testimony we have before us suggests that the black girl and asian guy in the above photos are indeed a couple. I DO NOT believe the weight of the evidence suggests that the KDS poster is an insecure Chinese guy trying to pad his ego boasting about the multiracial girls Chinese men can now get. Maybe you do, but your basis for that is…?
3) Be that it may that you’ve encountered instances where Chinese men have asked foreign girls to pose like this for them, it is still your word against mine. I’ve stated that I don’t deny the possibility that such things can or do happen, but I do firmly believe such things to be rare in occurance and that foreign girls going along with it to be even rarer. More importantly, I believe the weight of the evidence suggests that NOT to be the case but rather that this is, indeed, an instance of a KDS member snapping some candid shots of a rare mixed couple on the subway.
4) I never rule out the possibility that people lie, Rick, but you have to offer more evidence than just subjective prejudiced suspicion of Chinese netizens. I believe I have a point in stating that I’ve actually read the source of this post whereas the above people I’ve criticized clearly have not. If you want to argue that this is fake, and that it is important to argue that it is fake, please offer me a stronger argument than “it is possible.”
5) Please judge my comments and criticism in context. The things I said above were in response to certain things said by the people above. Has anything I said in disagreement and opposition to their presumptions and theories been unreasonable or even less than more likely to be true?
You want to suggest that people throw up fake posts and fake stories on the internet all the time, fine, I agree, but that doesn’t make me WRONG here about this post or about the silliness of the presumptions made by certain people above. If you think I am wrong, please back it up instead of appealing to mere possibility. I never doubted possibility, I doubted the likelihood of the interpretations above given what I know. The only arguments you’ve advanced don’t serve to support their interpretations, it only serves to support the concept of possibility, a concept I never rejected.
My position stands that the information we have does NOT suggest or support the interpretations made by the individuals I was responding to AND that my explanations are far more credible and believable than their (and your) baseless presumptions.
I would like to point out that I have also never seen a Chinese guy ask for a photo with a foreign girl.
Kai..I shouldn’t have said “you are wrong” as much as “I think you are wrong”. Semantics, no need to nitpick phraseology.
You keep mentioning things like “So, it’s your one experience vs. all my observations.” implying that our (the original poster and myself) have very limited and unique experiences. First of all, I have been here for 6 years. You imply he hasn’t been here very long, but perhaps has been here longer than I have. You imply that a Chinese guy has the same experiences/notices the same things as a foreign guy. The number of attractive foreign women in China is not so much that most foreign guys hang out with them regularly, and because of that, those who don’t will obviously experience this type of behavior FAR less frequently than someone who has. That being said, you can’t say our experiences are “baseless”, nor our observations, because you choose to view them in a different way.
1. The BODY LANGUAGE in Photo 1 appears she is NOT embracing HIM (as girls usually embrace their boyfriends, as opposed to the other way around, no?) and is in fact, crossing her arms and her body is not facing him but only her head tilting as if it’s a reply to a question. He is probably hounding her, he’s not really “comfortable” with her in that photo, you can look at his squeemish posturing, knees together tilted towards her, and face that implies “Oh, come on”. It’s probably not the first question. It’s probably a follow-up question, as in, now you’ve let me take a photo with my arms around you, how about I give you a little kiss..please? ish. If you can’t see that as a very possible possibility, I’ve no intention on belaboring the point.
2. The guy left and another guy got on. There is no argument here, they were going to different places. This implies with a strong possibility they were not together. Your explanation for this is simply reaching – justification to push your belief, rather than accepting the simplest explanation.
3. This thread’s poster, nor I, am implying that a Chinese guy can’t have a relationship with another race of female – they do, all the time. I’ve known people in that situation – while it is CERTAINLY not common, it’s reasonable. The point here is not that it’s unbelievable that this guy could be with that girl, the point is that in this particular case, while it could be true, it’s not evident in the story/photos presented. I suppose that kind of statement also needs us to understand that differentiation in personal experiences will sway you either way.
The bottom line is, I find it really amusing that so many Chinese guys are really proud when a Chinese guy is dating a foreign girl, but get so riled up and jealous when a Chinese girl is with a foreign guy.
Rick,
That’s fine. My point is still that if you think I am wrong, state clearly what you think I am wrong about and then offer the appropriate support/arguments for such. I didn’t think the points previously offered were at all “very valid and REALITY here” in China.
No, the implication is that that one experience offered by that poster is rare, an exception to the rule. I’m not saying you have limited experiences, unique at times maybe, but rather that your experience should be judged in context of what you experience all the time. I’m not just admonishing them to compare that experience to what they usually experience (but are not consciously accounting for here), but also to what others have experienced, which only reinforces how rare the experience they testify to having is.
I did? Who is he? If you’re referring to the commenters I specifically addressed, I didn’t imply they haven’t been here very long. I stated my objection to them wrongly holding up an exception as the rule. If they didn’t intend to do that, great. I just think their comment didn’t really make that clear.
I did? Where? Are you talking about me? Suggesting that my physical appearance precludes me from witnessing the experiences and noticing the phenomenon that foreign guys, perhaps like you, witness and notice? That I can’t understand what you do because I may not be a foreigner (or do you mean white, black, hispanic, etc.)?
I already accounted for mere possibility, but I’m pretty certain that I’m still right in saying that the phenomenon I am objecting to is rare. Are you arguing that it isn’t? You have your testimony and I have mine. I say it is a wash because it is irrelevant. That you may have witnessed something similar is insufficient not prove that it is widespread or even supportive of the implications made by the commenters I took issue to.
Again, I’ve hung out with plenty of foreigners and not once has anyone ever mentioned Chinese guys doing what is suggested above. Could it have happened and could it happen? Sure! But often enough to be offered by itself as a serious hypothesis for the above photos and story in contradiction to the information we do have? No.
No, I said your “presumptions” are baseless, not your experiences or observations.
Dude, you are needlessly complicating the matter. Are you seriously arguing that girlfriends will always be embracing their boyfriends? No, you say “usually”, right? So, are you arguing that “usually” should be so often that a person taking a photograph has a higher probability of capturing them in embrace than not?
We all see couples every day, Rick, and I can safely say that the vast majority of the time they are not embracing each other. That the black girl is not embracing him back is not dispositive. It doesn’t prove anything. If you had a video where this black girl was consistently trying to shrug off this guy, then maybe you might have cause…or maybe she’s just pissed at her boyfriend for the moment. With these photos alone the body language is not clearly anything. Hell, she could be a bit cold from the subway’s air conditioning and he’s even wrapping his arm around to help keep her that much warmer. You ever do something like that?
And I have every bit the intention of belaboring the point that this is your presumption which I consider baseless because it is based upon OTHER presumptions about Chinese male character and behavior. Rick, I have ALREADY stated quite clearly that I can see the very “possibility” but I am arguing that your hypothesis is NOT likely given my evaluation of the information presented.
Don’t misrepresent my position after I have been so clear.
You are, however, now explaining why you interpret the way you do, just as the above commenters did. Likewise, I have offered competing explanations and interpretations that I present as being more likely, credible, and even survivable to Occam’s Razor. This is not about possibility, Rick, it’s about likelihood.
You have your reasons (which I find potentially distasteful) for why you interpret the body language of the two pictured people to be of him “hounding” her. I have my reasons for why I see nothing out of the ordinary except that a black and asian couple is indeed a rare sight in China (and hell, most places). There is no reason for me to doubt the veracity of the story presented, except taking anything on the internet with a grain of salt.
However, nothing makes me suspicious here. What makes you suspicious? Is it really the body language? Or is there a subconscious prejudice against Chinese guys’ chances with foreign girls?
You cite her not embracing him. I cite her smiling at him. You cite her crossing her arms. I cite her not shoving him away. You cite his look as squeemish, begging her “oh come on” and I cite it as the look for a pussy-whipped guy who genuinely adores his gal.
Who is right? I venture to say the information we have suggests I’m right or more likely to be right, but the I’m willing to grant the intelligent compromise that there’s not enough information to rule either of us as definitely wrong because in this world, either scenario is surely possible.
But I still disagree with what you’re driving at or trying to defend.
This does not imply any possibility with any strength. You’re out of your mind, Rick. Correlation does not imply causation. That they are not a couple is NOT the simplest explanation absent other supporting presumptions. Don’t try to use Occam’s Razor on me. By your insane logic, I should be accusing you of reaching. You’re going out on a limb suggesting that the KDS poster is lying through his teeth about what he photographed. It’s your testimony against his. He’s offering photographic evidence of being present in that situation, personally observing what happened. You’re in a different city reading a website that translated and reposted the original post operating on a presumption that Chinese guys do this sort of shit all the time and hence this photograph should be interpreted based upon that presumption.
Simplest explanation? Are you kidding?
Huh? Neither? Nor?
No, the KDS poster is NOT implying that a Chinese guy can’t have a relationship with a female of another race. Neither are you. I know this. I am, however, criticizing certain posters above who seem unwilling to accept the simplest explanation that the photoed coupled are indeed a mixed race couple and would rather make presumptions (based upon other presumptions) that this is an elaborate Chinese ploy exploiting foreign girls to boost Chinese male egos.
Okay, so you’re saying the sum total of your personal experiences makes you interpret the above photos as a Chinese guys harassing a foreign black girl to let him put his arm around her and kiss her on camera for kicks?
Fuck, man, it must be REALLY different living in a non-Asian body! It’s like an entirely different reality where all the exceptions happen so often that they are the rule! What a philosophical mind-bender!
Rick, I’m sorry, but I think there’s an intellectual acknowledgement that this mix happens but an emotional hesitation to accepting it. You feel inclined to doubt for a reason, just as there’s a reason you don’t feel inclined to doubt other mixed couples (like white guy with Asian girl). You may take offense to this, but by the principle of mere possibility, am I really out of line? You want to suggest it is possible that your interpretation is right, and I want to suggest it is possible that your interpretation says something about your biases.
Fair, right?
I can understand the skepticism towards Asian guys with non-Asian girls. It IS rare, much rarer than if the genders were reversed. That’s a fact of our world, but I think it is objectionable to see people trying so hard reading into the at least indeterminate body language in these photos to somehow prove or justify that skepticism.
You guys are trying way too hard to get others to reject the possibility, even the likelihood, that this is a bona fide mixed-race couple. And that says a lot about you. And Rick, while we don’t really know each other personally, I’m somewhat disappointed because I thought better of you despite our strong past disagreements. I’m being honest here not to morally blackmail you, Rick, but because I somehow feel I owe it to you to explain why I’m so disappointed.
Which is not the bottom line of everything you’ve been arguing. This is a separate point that is basically unrelated and unpremised by the defenses and arguments you’ve offered in support of the previous commenters I was taking to task.
Like you, I fully recognize the racist hypocrisy of Chinese guys rooting on Chinese guys with foreign girls but not vice versa. However, I don’t find it amusing, I find it predictable. As other commenters have already pointed out, this is a common problem not amongst Chinese guys but amongst guys of all races. As one said, it is not racism but sexism that results in guys of all races feeling that women of their own race is somehow their “property” not to be poached by guys of other races.
I don’t object to this bottom line of your’s, Rick, so don’t confuse this bottom line as what you’ve been trying to say all along. I don’t see how arguing body language supports your bottom line of racist sexism between Chinese men. I wish I could find a way to give you face here, on account of having known each other on here for so long, but I really found some of the sentiments behind your arguments to be sorely disappointing. You’re not a dumbass, Rick, because for all our disagreements, we agree on a lot of things…but I just can’t understand what could rationally compel you to go out on a limb like this.
*Yawn* as usual, combating a clear and valid opinion with an over the top reply, I will summarize:
1. You break down everything anyone else pointed out as their observation or analysis as a presumption. EVERYTHING you have stated to support your opinion, Kai, is also a presumption. Your arguments and opinions are no more valid. I do not dispute that they MAY be a couple. They may. There is likely a good percentage of Black females dating Chinese guys in China.
2. When I said you may experience the kind of situations foreigners experience less frequently it is based only on different appearance. OF COURSE mainland Chinese look at, interact with, and behave around _all other races_ significantly different than other Chinese or even other asian nationalities. It has nothing to do with being foreign or not, it has to do with being of different appearance. Sure you may witness these events (being asked to take a photo with as an example), but most definitely witness/experience them far less frequently.
3. Throughout your reply you reference other guys. I only know the original poster of this thread (I don’t mean KDS, I mean “so what a” and he’s Black, btw, and likely has a significant more experience with the whole ‘can I take a photo with you’ shit than either of us, which I have also personally experienced numerous times, although I find it kind of amusing/flattering. BTW it has never happened _in Shanghai_, but there are a lot of white guys in SH.) I don’t know about the other people’s threads, nor was I backing up their arguments; I didn’t read their threads. I didn’t even read _THIS_ thread’s comments until my buddy mentioned your reply to his post. Why? The article seemed like a *stupid* observance that meant nothing…so what, a Chinese guy and a Black girl, who cares? Which leads to…
4. Nowhere do I mention anything about Chinese guys not being able to pull foreign women. I say the exact *opposite*, and I mean it – whether or not you choose to label me as subconsciously racist or not. I know some cool Chinese guys who would pull better than I in other countries(well..maybe). You are projecting what other people have said ala their ’subconscious prejudices’ onto what I have said. I have simply stated I do not think the story equates to these *particular 2* people being a couple, for 2 main reasons – body language and the fact they weren’t travelling together (or at least agreeably not to the same destination).
The girl is ugly anyways. The guy is even uglier. I’m done with this. Feel free to disect my racist tendancies and suggest my philosophical madness and bending of liklihood, but perhaps it is not I who am bending liklihoods due to extremely subjective experiences and reasoning.
Rick,
Well-played, Rick. I take you too seriously.
You’re technically right, if we make no distinction between what our premises are. My premise is the original source material, which includes the statements of the KDS poster who took these photos. What is your premise? These photos alone and apparently past experiences so overwhelming that you think your interpretation is both correct and more likely than mine.
I argue that my interpretation is more valid and/or likely because it is more congruous with the information we have available, whereas you’re not even taking into account the primary source. I’ve said this several times.
I’ve also said several times that both our interpretations are surely POSSIBLE. I know you think so too. Our disagreement has never been about possibility, but about likelihood. I’m saying your interpretation is not valid next to the information we have, and at the very least, less likely next to the information we have. Why? Because you’ve ignored important pieces of information from the original source material and substituting unrelated presumptions about Chinese male behavior. The foundation of your opinion, however possible it could be, is shakier than the foundation my opinion is citing.
If you don’t think so, please tell us what I’m missing that your opinion accounts for? Have you even looked at the original post?
Sure, I understand that, but you’re not answering the key question: Does this happen that frequently to justify the presumptions about Chinese male behavior and attitudes to explain away these photographs and accuse the original poster of lying through his teeth?
Rick, you were responding to my comment. My comment clearly addressed multiple people on a common point. I think this was very clear. I even listed out the names of the people I was addressing. These are the “other guys” I reference.
He is? Do you know him personally? This is a serious question, because I just checked and didn’t see him mentioning his race in this thread.
Bad presumption. You’re propping this guy up as an authority and using an appeal to authority fallacy. It’s the “he says so so he must be right” argument. In the process, you’re accusing the original KDS poster to be lying through his teeth, even in on a group ploy to “fabricate an ego boosting story”.
Okay, scratch the above. So you know “so what” and he’s black, fine. It still doesn’t make his interpretation any more likely, especially when it doesn’t account for the information we have available. His argument is the same as your’s, subjective interpretations of body language that I’ve already shown to have plenty of other possible, and I argue far more likely, interpretations. My interpretation also doesn’t depend on calling the KDS a liar and throwing in some rant about Chinese guys being “sad and desperate” fabricating ego boosting stories.
Your position states that you believe it is more likely that Chinese guys in Shanghai go around begging foreign girls to let them grope and kiss them on camera so they can go home and post ego-boosting fabrications online than for there to be a Chinese guy with a black girlfriend riding the subway together but getting off at different stops.
Simplest explanation?
Rick, you’re arguing with me about an explanation for a post you now admit you didn’t initially read, nor did you read the original source, AND you failed to read my comment carefully to notice that I was responding to multiple people I listed and addressed clearly at the very beginning of my comment?
Are you serious?
Nowhere did I accuse you of saying that.
You’re defending what they say as “valid and REALITY.” I’ve repeatedly stated that I know you know Chinese guys can get with foreign girls. Do you want me to quote me repeatedly saying you don’t think that? Are you not reading carefully again?
What I’m trying to figure out is why you’re more keen to defend and believe a far more complex and malicious interpretation over the simple one that the photographed pair are a couple. This is why I said you intellectually accept but maybe there’s some sort of emotional resistance/hesitation. Do you still want to argue that your interpretation of the body language is more accurate and likely than my interpretation combined with my review of the original Chinese source?
No, Rick, you said my interpretation of the events and original source were wrong. You wielded analysis of body language like a trump card and you insinuated that the original source is a liar. Go back and read your first response to me.
My responses to you have always been about what is the most likely and supported interpretation of these two people from the evidence/information we have available.
To repeat, I think the body language suggests they are a couple. You haven’t advanced a single analysis of the body language that cannot be mundanely explained away completely leaving the “this is a couple” interpretation strongly intact. That they got off at different stations is also lacking in persuasive weight. Couples get off at different stops all the time, Rick. Couples are not always attached at the hip.
The evidence and arguments you advance are flimsy at best. Sometimes a cigar is a cigar.
We have a rare mixed couple that was clearly being a bit lovey dubby on the subway. A KDS member, like many Chinese people, found the sight both rare and interesting and used his cell phone to snap three pictures. Later, he went online and posted his interesting sight of the day on KDS, because people, especially Chinese people, tend to gawk at these things. Juvenile comments ensued. Pretty par for the course with KDS and Chinese BBS forums in general. Hell, its not much different from a foreigner snapping pictures of Chinese parents having their kid shit on the sidewalk.
You’re backing up your friend who has said “fake chinese friendliness, sad and desperate, fabricate an ego boosting story about how chinese men are pulling people of all races now, sticky breathed kisses, bored idiots who need amusement, no need for anymore comments, its all been pointed out, notice i wasn’t angry, racist or defensive in my comments.” Regardless of how contradictory his PS was with the actual content of his comment, he fabricated his interpretation NOT on the original source material but on a combination of inconclusive body language analysis, certain past experiences he’s had with his UK girlfriend, and presumptions about Chinese male behaviors and attitudes in Shanghai.
Again, simplest explanation?
Rick, you’re the one who suggested my physical appearance (race) has something to do with why I don’t share the interpretation you feel is obviously correct. I’m the one who is actually discussing the actual details of the post and original source, drawing all the information together to put together a cohesive interpretation that doesn’t rely on racist presumptions about Chinese men’s behavior online or off.
We often ridicule the Chinese for refusing to evaluate independent objective points of debate and using the “you’re not Chinese, you wouldn’t understand” card. Now you’re using the same bullshit in reverse.
You disregard the original source, and point to your friend saying “he’s black” as if that alone should make his interpretation of an event he didn’t witness nor properly investigated, by following the link to the source, the clear and obvious correct one. Perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised. You made the same mistake the last time we had a vocal disagreement, insisting on believing your one stewardess friend against the contradictory but no less factual information presented by multiple other sources. Your loyalty to your friends is cool and all, but you shouldn’t stubbornly blind yourself to an objective evaluation of the information.
stinky not sticky breath ( one more comment/ correction)
China will become a true marathon/sprint powerhouse when black genes are found in its athletes. You will get athletes who can reach the greatness of Usain Bolt, and not have wimpy losers like Liu Xiang.
China broads, spread those legs and let some 10-inch mandingo lurve inside.
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Fuck sake, can someone please vote down these comments so I don’t see them anymore?!
Is there really a lot of fetish in China towards black sexuality? I found people to be very curious about me while I was there, but I took it as curiosity, not anything so deeply sexual. I must say that these posts, along with the selection on the female singer, are kind of sleazy. That was one difference I found between China and the west – Chinese people seem very hesitant to express their inner thoughts and feelings, so I sometimes appreciate the internet for being able to read what people will post, things that they might otherwise not express.
The results are disappointing, and yes, I read many of the original comments in Chinese. Whoever chose these particular comments to translate was being generous towards the Chinese.
Chinese people want BJ and Shanghai to be considered world-class cities, as do many of the foreigners operating the ring of blogs there. However, these sorts of comments and repulsive displays of racism and sexual degradations reveal a nation that has much further to go than they believe they do.
I mean, come on. A mixed race couple on the subway, photographed and viciously commented on, in 2009? Sorry, China fails miserably on this one.
I always say, if you want to know what people say behind your back, see the sorts of things they post online. Lately, I look much less favorably on China for this very reason.
ohh dear.. i bet you are living in a time of Franko and Hitler and beliving own shit you wrote here..
and yep.. forign people from other culture and ethnics are looking exsotic for chinese whoa regoing to save the world but opened own door to it just 2 decades ago…
Jaime,
No, not really.
Interestingly, there were some people in the Lou Jing thread who complained that the translated comments were too biased towards the racist ones, not giving enough play for those Chinese who denounced racism and defended Lou Jing. I think it’s important to always keep in mind that the comments translated here are never ever going to be representative for a ton of legitimate reasons. Just take them as a sample, not the standard.
I feel the same way about tons of YouTube videos and YouTube comments.
Guys, exercise some common sense. You guys should know by now how this website operates. They clearly tell you what forum this stuff is from and provide links. Different forums have different personalities given their membership’s demographics. You guys should NEVER EVER take any handful of comments from any particular forum and believe it to be representative of China, the Chinese, or even Chinese netizens. KDS, for crying out loud, is a bunch of silly Shanghainese guys who can be hilarious at times but disturbingly discriminatory at others. They’re like a frat house, with a good portion of their posts being photos of hot girls. Can you really convince yourself that they represent China in 2009? Come on now…
Wow, and we point at the Chinese for being oversensitive? I quote Quinon above:
@Kai
Your comments were reasonable and make sense. I don’t say that to be condescending, I mean to say you provided some needed balance in my view. I recognize that selected comments on a message board are not statistical samples or whatever. However, I am not entirely sure that they can be dismissed so easily as “fringe”, especially when said comments don’t fit in with your worldview. I am not writing this as someone unfamiliar with China, or unfamiliar with how Chinese people view/consider blacks. Saying that isn’t to suggest that I consider all Chinese to be racists or fools, or even most of them, but I didn’t just see the comments and have my reaction, I considered my experiences over the years and the thousands of interactions (large and small) that I had.
More on message boards – I do believe that people unleash their… frustrations, ignorance, petty squabbles, etc on the internet. Your listing of Youtube is interesting because far from being atypical of American society, I would say that a lot of the comments for various videos on Youtube represent large swathes of American society. How large? Of course I couldn’t say, but even if only 10%, that is a humongous mass of people.
As far as taking KDS and not making them an example, do you suggest that if these photos appeared on another forum the results would be different? Wildly different? KDS may be a “frat house” bunch, but I certainly wouldn’t say it wasn’t popular, and if someone said to me to just dismiss the postings you see on a popular American board as part of a fringe, I would have to disagree. I am willing to try to give most people credit for being pretty good all-in-all, but then again when I look around at recent history, I have to wonder. I liked China when I live there, and I still feel quite fondly towards many people there, and aspects of the culture, but like all cultures (including my own) it is pretty crappy in many ways.
Cynical, probably. But I hope that wasn’t too disjointed a reply. Anyway, I’ll agree that “discourses” like the responses in this thread they tend not to go very far. There are those eager to demonize China, and there are those who rise to defend China’s honor against any and all slights. On the subject of culture/ethnicity and stereotypes (I shouldn’t have used the word festish previously) I will say that China is no worse than most other countries, and in fact probably better than the U.S. But then, the bar is set pretty low here, so…
Geez, how do I delete the above? Thats not what I intended to post, and furthermore, I wanted to add substance that China is actually off-the-chain in many ways to my post below. I’ve got a hair-trigger laptop, I posted too quickly! Crist on a Crisp! Well, it’s time for brunch now. Hopefully there will be waffles left.
@Kai
Your comments were reasonable and make sense. I don’t say that to be condescending, I mean to say you provided some needed balance in my view. I recognize that selected comments on a message board are not statistical samples or whatever. However, I am not entirely sure that they can be dismissed so easily as “fringe”, especially when said comments don’t fit in with your worldview. I am not writing this as someone unfamiliar with China, or unfamiliar with how Chinese people view/consider blacks. Saying that isn’t to suggest that I consider all Chinese to be racists or fools, or even most of them, but I didn’t just see the comments and have my reaction, I considered my experiences over the years and the thousands of interactions (large and small) that I had.
More on message boards – I do believe that people unleash their… frustrations, ignorance, petty squabbles, etc on the internet. Your listing of Youtube is interesting because far from being atypical of American society, I would say that a lot of the comments for various videos on Youtube represent large swathes of American society. How large? Umm….
As far as taking KDS and not making them an example, do you suggest that if these photos appeared on another forum the results would be different? Wildly different? KDS may be a “frat house” bunch, but I certainly wouldn’t say it wasn’t popular, and if someone said to me to just dismiss the postings you see on a popular American board as part of a fringe, I would have to disagree. I am willing to try to give most people credit for being pretty good all-in-all, but then again when I look around at recent history, I have to wonder. I liked China when I live there, and I still feel quite fondly towards many people there, and aspects of the culture, but like all cultures (including and especially my own) there are some really scary aspects.
And of course you are right, there is a lot to see. This topic has a lot of comments, many of them damning, but i still would say that China is worth a go for blacks, especially considering the situation in some other, supposedly more urbane or sophisticated countries.
Well, that’s my post.
Jaime,
I’m not trying to argue that any statistically small sample of comments is “fringe” by default, just that it’s a “statistically small sample” and thus it’s wise to keep that in mind before letting it color any broad generalizations we make.
I’m not trying to deny you of your experiences and interactions, especially if those gave you an uneasy feeling that a lot of people in China are pretty racist or racially insensitive or whatever. I happen to feel the same way.
What I caution against — and this is with everyone, not specifically you — is crossing from an observation/acknowledgement to a generalized declaration/condemnation of an entire “society” with the argument that something like this or your own experiences is sufficient “proof”.
Why? Because crossing into doing that is dangerous.
It’s dangerous because it looks persuasive when it actually isn’t. All you need to do to understand why is think of how you would argue if the same thing happened to you. If someone accused your race, demographic, or society of being, let’s say, racists because of things someone or even many people in your race, demographic, or society have said, how would you respond?
If you’re minimally intelligent, you’d probably acknowledge it, but then stress how those people aren’t representative of everyone, much less you yourself. If you’re stupid, you’ll probably skip that and jump directly to trying to argue how the other person’s race, demographic, or society is somehow worse for the same ugly sin.
The best way to see how logical and fair any argument is is to see how you would defend against it were it used against you. And if the argument isn’t logical or fair, then why would you use it against others?
Next, because of how seemingly persuasive it is, we should really be careful with encouraging people to turn bona fide observations into hard and fast generalizations. There’s a difference between “I’ve met a lot of racist people in China” and “Chinese society is racist and this here, along with my experiences, prove it!”
Why? Because the latter is prone to being self-fulfilling. It begins to color how you view and judge the entire society instead of allowing yourself to evaluate it on the experiences themselves. More importantly, it colors how others view and judge an entire society. You’re spreading, even inciting, negative generalizations about an entire society.
For example, what defines a “racist society” anyway? Is it the mere presence of members of that society espousing racist comments, views, actions? Or is it the proportion of that society that does so? The frequency? What definition or criteria can anyone offer that will only limit Chinese society as being a racist society and exclude other societies?
And if it is racist, then what?
Too many people don’t ask these questions before they pull their guns out and start saying “Chinese” this or “Chinese” that. How is this any different from what Chinese racists do?
Generalizations serve legitimate purposes, but sometimes we need to reflect on just what purpose we’re employing them for. With this issue and though I’m responding to you, I trust you understand that I’m making a broad observation of a lot of what we’ve seen commented on this Chinese-black/Lou Jing topic. At what point are we crossing the line from rightfully acknowledging the racism to deriving a sort of condescending pleasure from declaring “others” to be of some evil that we think we are clean of?
Is the goal here to condemn racism or to condemn Chinese society?
Think about it. The answer says a lot.
As for YouTube, I actually do think that YouTube represents large swaths of humanity and thus human stupidity. I would even entertain it being typical of American society. In comparison to KDS, though, I’d argue that its far easier to say YouTube is more representative of, say, the idiocy of American society (not that YouTube is limited to Americans) than KDS is representative of the idiocy of Chinese society. For one thing, YouTube is far larger of a website and its users represent far more demographics than KDS does.
I’m not arguing that these photos posted on a different Chinese forum would suddenly result in non-racist comments, I’m arguing that each forum’s demographic character would show just like the same topic could receive different types of comments on different blogs or forums in America or elsewhere.
I don’t know if you can really say KDS is popular. It is popular amongst a limited demographic of Chinese, mostly Shanghainese. Do you think Shanghai and the Shanghainese represents all of China and Chinese? Tianya or Mop is far more representative than KDS. KDS is small fries next to those giants. Hell, we only get a lot of translated KDS content here on chinaSMACK because Fauna is Shanghainese and she likes KDS. It’s like Roland Soong of ESWN posting a lot of Hong Kong news sources, because he’s in Hong Kong.
I fully agree with you that even if these comments are not and cannot be argued to be statistially representative, our instincts are not always wrong either. We’re often quick to see these things as evidence for our own suspicions borne out of our own legitimate observations and experiences. Are all of these wrong? Not necessarily, but its important not to let ourselves get too carried with them. Rationality is not letting our subjective perspective distort objective reality. These experiences and these comments prove that racism exists in China amongst many Chinese people. But what do we do with this realization?
Do we fight against racism? Or do we blame racism on the state of being Chinese?
What’s the end goal and how are the things we say contributing towards getting there?
Some people would be better off just acknowledging that they’re just as every bit racist against the Chinese as some Chinese are against blacks.
Jaime, I apologize if my first reply to you was a bit curt. I actually find your comments to be very good-natured and well-meaning and you write earnestly. I’m more or less commenting about a lot of the other comments here.
Finally, for everyone’s kicks, and in connection with the general theme of stupidity, I offer this fun essay by a former Berkeley professor: Basic Laws of Human Stupidity.
oWhahahahahahah! okokok.. guys imagine that small little loser of my yellow master race, who is trying to make fotos of this curvy african girl flyrting with her globetroter-weaboo chinese lover, (i bet she is a student trying to earn some chips for her family back in some african shithole) and trying to camoflage his sheap chinese copypasta mobile by using some backward loser clothes by looking the whole time into the mobile-camera and pretending he is not looking discusting when he is going almost insame because he cant make a foto of exsotic girl with spread legs kissing her chinese lover….
something like this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dER0DPirYEk
Sorry, not every country should buy into this whole American interracial mixing thing.
We have our own culture, and we do not buy it! Americans are not the center of the world. WHy should every country follow them? You cannot use American standards and call people racists. Imagine if it was the other way around.
Chinese are fucking moron racist bitches…. Uncivilized.They pretend everthings they do. Loser !
If you ppl.hate African guys.you’re wasting your time.becos,alot of chinese gals,are going for the black dick.I can assure you chinese.not in the distance future.the will be more and more African/Chinese kids…..you’ve to accept the fact loser !
Chinese women don’t like ugly, unsophisticated, dirt poor niggers. Sure, the trash will gravitate to you but the rest hold their noses and try to avoid catching sight of your pathetic, smelly, ugly ass.
Nigger go back to Africa and spread AIDS there. Don’t brag about the size of your dick either, we know 90% of its dry weight is just genital wards.
If only your IQs could be increased in a similar way.
@ hellofriends: Hey bro, you mind typing in HUMAN next time? I know how good you are handling stress and all, just like your boy Cho. Just don’t overexert yourself, you filthy yellow reptilian slime.
So what kind of IQ do you have? Judging by your comments, not that much. Do you actually know what that word means, you throw it around as if to try and stab a person in the heart. Don’t waste your time, it’s a useless word that nowadays really has no strong significant meaning as it once did back in the day.
Also, are you gay? Why and how would you know about another Black man’s penis. If you are gary, maybe you should go to a different site and spouse off there. Or can it be that you are not happy about your own penile size.
And just FYI, no woman likes “ANY” man that is a loser, color has nothing to do with it. Wise up! And please don’t mention smell. China smells like ass and there is no deodorant big enough to mask that stench! The stench of bigotry.
Ahh finally, the real source of all this anger explained… penis envy LOL!!!!
ROFL :D
You know it is not the size that matters :P, anyhow it is all for the best, you don’t like black women, and black women would never be satisfied by you… problem solved :)
Mr. hellofriends,
**Chinese women don’t like ugly, unsophisticated, dirt poor niggers.
You seem to have described yourself pretty accurately in this statement. I know it might be a little difficult, but open your eyes real wide and take in the world around you. Last time I checked, The 中国人 (Chinese People or Middle Country People) named Americans 美国人 (Beautiful Country People) hey but what do I know.
**Sure, the trash will gravitate to you but the rest hold their noses and try to avoid catching sight of your pathetic, smelly, ugly ass.
For the record, 臭豆腐 (Smelly Tofu) does horrible things to your breath and the air of a city. WAY WORSE then chitterlings, for those who know what that is. But hey, I’m not here to poke fun. Just to put things in perspective.
It is extremely unfortunate that we were not able to meet while I was working in Shanghai, though I feel you would’ve been a lot more cautious in constructing your sentences when you are face to face with what you fear.
Until the vast majority of Chinese people learn to brush their teeth, I could’nt care less what they think about anything, especially who anyone wants to date.
Peace in the Middle East and Personal Hygiene in China.
China invented the toothbrush, retard.
How ironic. You beasts “invent” the toothbrush just to have little girls piss and shit down your throat in your beastly scat. I hope you ride an ancestral dick to insanity.
looooooooooooooooooool!
LOVE.. LOVE!!!! one day china will accept this! and forget about your culture
I’m a white woman married to an Asian man….is there something wrong with that in China? Or just the black thing is bad?
Nothing “wrong” with it, as long as you don’t mind angry young men being vicariously pleased that their “compatriot” has “conquered” you as revenge for “their” women being “stolen.”
who cares about Chinese, dislike the idea of Blacks having kids with chinese.A lot of African/Chinese kids are being born especially in beijing. Very soon China will allow African/Chinese on their National Football Team,Basketball,and other sports….
My advice,to you Chinese innocent kids.Foucus,on your studies so as to enable you have a better Job, in the future.Becos,if you’re not educated.you’ll not have a pretty chinese chick.Most of the pretty Chinese chicks are chasing black dicks.Believe it or not.It’s your decision to do a study on this…
Nobody is chasing black dick except the AIDS exterminators.
So says the foremost cocksucking slope.
Bigdaddy — This is not racist because “America” says it is. It’s just racist. Period.
It would be racist in any developed nation: Canada, France, Britain, Australia, etc. All over the world, it’s considered indecent to discriminate on skin color.
Even in Hong Kong — where people certainly have their prejudices — at least we know better than to go around saying racist stuff out in public.
I can’t imagine a HK forum saying ‘OH MY GOD! A CHINESE-BLACK PERSON ON TV! A BLACK PERSON ON THE SUBWAY!”
There aren’t alot of black people here. But generally, HK discrimination is based on money and class. A black banker from London could easily get a HK girlfriend without discrimination and be treated like a king. An African selling drugs on the streets would be looked down on.
I’m so thankful that when I was dating an ABC nobody posted a photo of us on the metro or eating in a restaurant. I feel terrible for this woman.
I wonder how much he paid?
I hope he doesn’t get AIDS. Yeah statistically around the world, blacks have the highest AIDS rate, be it in a third world nation or not.
And I hope you are keeping up with estimates that in the next 20 years Asia would surpass Africa in numbers of new HIV cases, look it up. With Asia, places such as Indonesia, Taiwan, and India, serving as the world’s underbelly for sex tourism its inevitable. Also, to cure your ignorance google China’s AIDS villages.
This dude is cool, respect to him !
I hope Asian men can take all the Black and White chicks in exchange for there Asian Females !
Well, I just have to be honest here, the photos do not look very intimate. I quite open to this being an interracial couple, but they don’t look like it, especially the last photo on the subway. The other photo could well be, presuming it’s not a photoshop.
Hahaha… I may have to make a fake ‘Chinabounder’ style site but complete it with video shots of some dark Mandingo missile vs. some elegant rice pudding.
This is the kind of comment Chinasmack needs more of!!! Make love not war.
Hahaha… I may have to make a fake ‘Chinabounder’ style site but complete it with video shots of some dark Mandingo missile vs. some elegant rice pudding. Give the people something to talk about!
I remember watching this thing on VH1 a couple years ago where the commentator made a comment about how Asian American men and black women should get together because they’re the two most least mixed and unmarried groups of people in America. I’m glad it’s happening somewhere.
If I saw that guy in public, I’d be like, “Jiao You!”
Exactly. I cheer this guy on!!! Get down on it Wang!!!
I remember watching this thing on VH1 a couple years ago where the commentator made a comment about how Asian American men and black women should get together because they’re the two most least mixed and unmarried groups of people in America. I’m glad it’s happening somewhere.
If I saw that guy in public, I’d hu1han3 him.
nothing wrong being black ..racist
First the Lou Jing thread, and now this one, is revealing a lot about chinese people’s true colours.
And the “we are different” or 5,000 years of history line is NO excuse for racism, at all!
They’ve ridden the ancestral dick to insanity. Don’t be disturbed.
I’ve read most of the comments here and I seriously don’t understand what a lot of you are trying to say.
But it’s ridiculous how racist some of the comments are. How the hell does this couple affect you guys in any way??
And I don’t know what kind of Chinese people you guys run into, but you must attract the most devilish fiends running on this Earth. It’s almost as if the only reason you people ARE in China is to find proof of other “racist” Chinese guys and show them to the World….like it’s some sort of fucking groundbreaking thing. And you must wonder what attracts you to these people, you go out looking for this type of shit, and just have field day with it. Like it’s an addiction for some of you, to find out what’s wrong with China. Yeah China is a fucked up country for all I know with things that are completely unreasonable to the average Westerner. But then again, it seems a lot of you doesn’t know how to deal with it…..so you look for more negativity to corroborate your claims. I mean, I could go around internet meassage boards all day long and look for racist Chinese comments, racist English comments…now how the hell does that help me one bit?? Why not walk away from it? Why not look for something else for once and have healthy relationships with people of different races. Why should we always look for the blemish and imperfection of other people??
How about knowing some positive, open-minded people for once….how about looking at people in a positive way for once in your lives.
Who gives a goddamn what some Chinese guy does or some Black girls does….seriously.
And what if the Black girl speaks fluent Chinese?? What if she lived in China for a long time?? Then what??
And keep in mind a couple like this will get stares everywhere, not just in China…yeah moreso in China but they will get stares in the US of A, in any country in Africa, in any goddamn country. Just get over it.
Alright….it’s like this.
There are probably tons of Chinese people staring and talking shit behind their back.
Ok….take this couple, and let them walk through a Black neighborhood….and see the comments…and the stares they get.
Take a White male/Black female couple and let them walk to a Black neighborhood and see the comments they get.
When that happens, then we’ll talk how “racist all Black people are.”
give me a fucking break.
So..you’re justifying Chinese people’s racism with your opinion that all Black people are racist as well?
Dumbass.
Did I say that all Black people were racist?? Where the hell did you come up with that conclusion??? I’m not justifying Chinese people’s racism, I’m just saying a couple like this would get comments, and stares from every country regardless if they were Chinese, White, or Black. And when that happens, should we also make inane posts about how racist “other people are”???
Are you so fucking close-minded that you can’t even read into what I posted??
You stupid piece of shit muthafucker (oh, and don’t worry, I would say this shit to your face too if I met you in real life, and you won’t be able to do shit about it).
And plus, it’s a damn shame that all you saw in my words were “Black people are racist.” Which can’t be anything further from the truth, I was making an example, and using a sarcastic comment to imply that it is human nature, and not just Chinese people nature, to be curious, and maybe even insulting towards uncommon interracial couples. And that’s one of the consequences for being in an interracial relationship, you are more likely to attract attention, positive or negative. And especially in China, this type of stuff is a normal ocurrance since there isn’t any personal space or privacy like you would expect in Western countries. Don’t know why any of you would be even surprised by this if you’ve lived in China for a while. So, do you get it now?? It’s a damn shame that you misinterpreted what I wrote and I gotta explain this shit to you. But then again, maybe I wasn’t clear enough in the first place. Therefore, I apologize.
Now don’t bother responding, cuz I’m done with this website. Enough of this shit.
Why did this need its own posting? Is there something wrong with this couple?
one fact i observed after going through all the posts is that there are hell of a lot of racists on this thread, and they don’t seem to realise it themselves, I wonder why!
As for Chinese man & black girl, way to go, why not, more diversity makes the world an interesting place, good luck to them.
Okay.
I am a black women from America who has dated a Chinese man. And I must admit it was interesting, but because of the language barrier the relationship could continue. I don’t see why there is such a issue with interracial relationships.
Me personally love comes in all shapes, sizes, and colors and no one should deny love because of your race. I love Asian men…hell I love all men that are competent and not ignorant, but I say THANK YOU to all Asian men that build up enough courage to speak to a black woman.
We as humans have so many thoughts running through our heads of the physical appearance, the dick size, and a persons race…that a lot of people are holding back on what they truly want.
TO ALL ASIAN MEN coming from a black woman…if you see a black woman that you like take the chance and speak to her…because regardless of what you have in your pants…not all women need to have fun with a Asian man by the size of shaft.
Please don’t lead these poor men into a suicidal fantasy.
ok one is black the other is yellow so what ? im sure chinese people like to be called yellow…….i had few yellow girls my self (more than few)
So what’s wrong with this? But then they go on copying/pirating everything. Stupid chinese people.
I am disgusted with the comments on here. Please grow up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spx040iY_0Y
You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Koreans show you up.
As a black woman I can happily say that I am married to a loving Chinese man who is nothing like you people on this forum.
Get out more.
This comment was directed @ the negative comments lol.
Great vid! I believe everyone can learn from this! Awesome. This is real love and these are truly educated and sincere people, they are the future.
I have a little story from the 1930s. My father grew up in the South, a Japanese American guy. In his town, there were some Chinese men. They were considered “illegal immigrants” because immigration from China has been outlawed in 1881. Well, that doesn’t stop people from coming to America, or going anywhere really. This goes double for Chinese people, who seem to be everywhere in the world.
Back then, in the South, they had segregation. Blacks and whites had separate entrances, facilities, etc. It was racism of a kind that I’m reminded of when I read these comments on this board. It was a horrible time. Asians in the South lived “in between” being white and black.
These Chinese men, they were considered “Black” and existed within the African American community. (My father’s family, probably because my grandfather had joined the military, were allowed to attend white schools. It was very unusual.)
These Chinese men eventually integrated into the Black community, and married, and by the 1990s, there were a number of African American families with a Chinese grandpa.
It turns out that this was quite common. I have met a pretty fair number of African and European Americans who have an Asian grandfather or grandmother (usually a grandfather). The African American community is one of integration, where large numbers of men and women of all races have integrated into the community. They have succeeded in doing what America only promises – integration and a unified identity and a sense of “nation”.
Yes this is true of the south and also on the island of Jamaica where there is an entire segment of Chinese Jamaicans. They are almost all the result of black women and Chinese men intermarrying and having children.
This is a lovely little film that illustrates that not all Chinese or Black people are opposed to such unions. It stars a black woman and a Chinese man as a young couple in love. It was written and produced by a young black MALE film writer, producer, director. Check it out:
http://social.bloomingdales.com/bflix/#/bflix/326030
Yeah and look at the results. Bye, bye to Chinese, HELLO BLACK. Once you go black, you can’t ever go back. Those poor Chinese guys were desperate, plain desperate to have mixed themselves out like that.
One-drop rule is not a joke. Seriously who in their right minds would ever choose to be born black?
you act just like one–your name that is. you have a one way ticket to hell. i hope you find god, before you you posion your offspring with all of this hatred crap.
these comments are sad
Can someone tell me why this story is even posted?
Is this actually newsworthy? Has ChinaSmack been taken over by Fox?
I think you mean, MSNBC! Only Liberal idiots play the race card. So I think the liberal ChinaSmack and MSNBC are both owned by GE!
I am not sure at all if the picture is real or fabricated. What difference does it make?
Why assume it is based solely on sexual attraction? Here is a lovely couple, the woman an African American, the man from Northern China. They live in the U.S. have been married for 2 years. Here is an interview with the lovely wife and there is a picture.
She is dark and lovely, he is 6′4″ tall. They met on the internet.
Real love sees no color or culture barriers at all.
Here is the link to the interview of that couple Yuan and Ami:
http://evolvingslices.typepad.com/lorraines_corner/2009/02/ami-and-yuan.html
what the fuck is wrong with you chinese people can’t you stand your kind hanging or fucking other races. You should be happy for the guy in the metro picture he will be thought how to do it properly so he can spread it to all the corners of your country. And I know your girls are tight too. i sing in Auckland they like to scream when you ram them with the black stick they just can’t leave you alone because with all the tiger fat etc.you Penises are still dwarf sizes. Enjoy
They are both ugly in my eyes, but not because of their races… >.> hes a nerd and she needs clothes that fit properly. *_*
who said she is ok in black standards? psh. She is doable, but that doesn’t take much when guys only think with their smaller head.
but seeing IR couples makes me smile :D
l did not know that Chinese are so stupid and uneducated. They still leave in a primitive world. It looks like these negative and racist comments have been posted by uneducated stupid people. In this world of today anyone can date whoever she/he likes, it does not matter whether you are black, white or yellow. What matters is the love you have for each other. Grow up Chinese man and respect other cultures
OMG,im asian,but thanks God,im not chinese,wtf?you are all mad stupid,was it big news for yall to see an azn/blk couple?Thats not even Urumchi,thats Shanghai,one of the biggest city in the world,damn,it would ok,if teh girl was white,right?fokin racists
She is a beautiful person. (and I’m Chinese)
whites are whites, blacks are blacks…asians are asians…bastards are still bastards…nothing to do with skin…only moron people who are talking about color to determine good and bad…which one ull choose for ur life partner color or being abused for the rest of of life by ur spouse?
Man from china seems to think that it is male dominance,girls are all low and bad. Too bad they are low and ugly as well. People from China has left me with a very bad impression.
Love is love. Isn’t that the issue here?
In any case, whatever is going on between them is their business…who is the sick **** that took the pictures on the metro?
I didn’t think the Chinese were that stupid to let blacks into the China. Are they that ignorant as to what goes on in every country where blacks migrate to? Are they too being brainwashed by leftist liberals bent on making the world nothing but a multicultural cesspool?
Wake up Chinese before it’s too late! Blacks are parasites in whatever country they decide to migrate to. They always end up taking from a country more than they give back. Expect more crime, ghetto neighborhoods, violence, drugs, lazy work ethics. Statistics always prove it.
Besides, aren’t the Chinese obsessed with pale skin? Why spoil it with the threat of mud infiltrating Chinese genes? What will be the lasting effects if the above scenarios (pictures) were to become more common place? Do we want more Lou Jing types in China???
IMO that will be a sad day indeed.
Of course. Blacks are always the problem to everything. Let’s all also forget the fact that in the past it was the white race that fucked them up in the first place, like they do to almost every race they come in contact with.
They killed most of the Native Americans
They killed,enslaved, and traded the black people.
They drove China into isolating themselves because the white people back then were once again trying to force their beliefs down other people’s throats again, and they tried to do “ethnic cleansing” of the Muslim’s by going on stupid, pointless, and retarded crusades to supposedly take back the Holy Land.
And what have black people done to other races? nothing. Absolutely nothing since the advancements of civilization the white race always did something to screw over the other races.
Black people haven’t really done anything. Think about when was the last time you’ve read a History text book and in it it said something along the lines of black civilization invaded another race’s civilization and either conquered,killed,and or converted them not much unless you count Egypt, but even they didn’t take it to the extreme like the whit race has. Yet here we are today kissing their asses all the time.
Now I’m not saying all White people are like this. I know plenty who are embarassed, and ashamed that their race did stuff like that back then, but their is no reason to go around and start saying that one specific race of people in your country is going to raise every crime rate known to man. That’s ignorant, stupid, and close-minded.
Also the Chinese are only obsessed with pale skin because of culture. Just like the caste system in India those with darker skin were more associated with farmers, and laborers(because they are in the sun a lot)putting them at the bottom of the system while people like business men, or rich noble families were often of pale skin color due to the fact that they were hardly exposed out in the sun for long periods of time making them more desirable and at the top of the caste system. While this no longer active in China, the Chinese people are still pretty traditional and they keep those viewpoints from the caste system intact which is why black people(and Asians of darker skin color) are disliked more then light skinned people(of course foreigners even white ones are still not very like by them either way)
Oh yeah do not make fun of Lou Jing she is very successful and ambitious young lady along with many other famous blasian children like Tiger Woods, and I pray that she accomplishes high goals and is happy throughout her life.
Mr… Monkey
＊＊I didn’t think the Chinese were that stupid to let blacks into the China. Are they that ignorant as to what goes on in every country where blacks migrate to? Are they too being brainwashed by leftist liberals bent on making the world nothing but a multicultural cesspool?
Ｗａｉｔ Ｗａｉｔ， Ｓｏ ｍｙ ａｎｃｅｓｔｏｒｓ ＂ｍｉｇｒａｔｅｄ＂ ｏｕｔ ｏｆ Ａｆｒｉｃａ？
Ｔｈｅ ｗｏｍｅｎ ｏｆ ｍｙ ａｎｃｅｓｔｏｒｓ ｓｌｉｐｐｅｄ ｉｎｔｏ ｓｌａｖｅｏｗｎｅｒ＇ｓ ｈｏｕｓｅｓ ａｎｄ ｇｏｔ ｐｒｅｇｎａｎｔ ｏｎ ｐｕｒｐｏｓｅ？
Ａｆｒｉｃａｎｓ ｇｅｔ ｂｒｏｕｇｈｔ ｉｎｔｏ Ａｍｅｒｉｃａ ａｓ ｓｌａｖｅｓ， ｐｈｙｓｉｃａｌｌｙ ａｎｄ ｓｉｎｇｌｅ－ｈａｎｄｅｄｌｙ ｂｕｉｌｄ Ａｍｅｒｉｃａ ｕｐ ｔｏ ｔｈｅ Ｉｎｄｕｓｔｒｉａｌ Ｒｅｖｏｌｕｔｉｏｎ ａｎｄ ｆｒｏｍ ｎｏｔｈｉｎｇ ｈａｖｅ ｂｅｃｏｍｅ ｗｏｒｌｄ ｌｅａｄｅｒｓ ｏｆ ｏｕｒ ｔｉｍｅ． Ｙｏｕ＇ｒｅ ｓａｙｉｎｇ ｗｉｔｈ ｔｈｉｓ ｔａｋｅｎ ｉｎｔｏ ｃｏｎｓｉｄｅｒａｔｉｏｎ， ｗｅ ｃａｎ＇ｔ ｉｎｈａｂｉｔ １２．９％ｏｆ ａ ｔｈｅ ＵＳ ｐｏｐｕｌａｔｉｏｎ？
Ｔｈｉｎｋ Ａｇａｉｎ Ｍｏｎｋｅｙ. Speaking of Monkeys. I’m pretty sure they were the cause of AIDS, not to be misinterpret monkeys as humans or yourself for that matter.
I feel sorry for you and that is all I can say about what you posted. I only pray to God that you truly don’t believe in those things you posted and you are just a young, obviously uneducated, more than likely bullied, attention deprived boy.
What’s the matter with this? I mean each person has it’s own taste! On this site we talk about chinese girls want western guys because chinese men isn’t good enough. What can Chinese men do about it?
Another fact is there are more men than woman in China. How should a chinese man get woman? Or should a Chinese woman take 2 extra men? Or should Chinese men be gay? That’s makes the world more crazier.
If we respect eachother culture, we can make life easier. I think some people are not ready to accept things… Time will change it all wether you don’t like it.
“some people are not ready to accept things…Time will change it all…”
So you want China to look just like another South/Southeast Asian nation? News flash, negroid types have been there for centuries, and just look at those countries, self-hate over color rules in those places. Caste system anyone? Would you propose this for your Chinese people? At least in white countries, they made something of themselves. The same cannot be said of African nations.
BLACK + BLACK = BLACK
WHITE + BLACK = BLACK or MUD
EAST ASIAN + BLACK = BLACK or MUD
And don’t bother trying to prove otherwise, if dark skin were so beautiful, skin lightening creams wouldn’t be the multi-million dollar business they are both in Africa and India. Besides WHO wants NAPPY hair? Answer: NO ONE, NOT even blacks! LOL
Oh yeah, I did see a black girl with au natural hair last week (quite rare these days). Her afro looked literally about three feet in diameter. I wish I had my camera with me, I would’ve posted it. I was HUGE! So unless we all want mud skin and hair that could hide a colony of cockroaches without one knowing it, not to mention all the other disadvantages of being black, I’d stay well away.
You have issues. How many times are you going to post on this topic? Look no one agrees with you. I’m half black, but people think I’m just white. Black + White doesn’t always equal Black. Plus, biracial people are beautiful just like blacks and whites.
I keep my hair natural so it can grow long. Disadvantages of being black? Like what?
why snowwhites like to go to the tan shop to make themsleves look muddy?????? Oh, because your white arss is too pale.
I was just directed to this site by one of my subscribers and I am just too through. Some people are so foolish it is ridiculous. Despite the other issues with this post why is it that we as women have been reduced to body parts and male validation! That is my issue regardless of the obvious penis envy of some of these commenter.
Put my IQ, resume and life accomplishments up against any one of you thoughtless bigots (racist would imply you have some kind of power to discriminate and I highly doubt that). The only comfort you will find left is in those baseless notions that I just demolished. It must be exhausting to be so weak minded. Knowledge is a disease, go catch it.
1. I am black, not from africa but from america
2. Dont talk about our color because your women are buying skin whitening produces to make themselves that conplexion.
3. Im not some sex goddess just like the next chinese girl I have regular sex. Why do you people think we have caves for a vigina
4. Im not super dark (I think dark skin is beautiful, smooth and flawless) and Im not fucking transparent. Im tan, or brown!
I really think no one knows who they are.any skin color different from black is considered a mutant.look around you .whites, asian or .. is as a results of mutation.so i like my race cos i know i am the superior race on earth.we black dont need to invent anything of fear anything cos we are the superior race on earth. white cames the same way we are having albinos MUTANTS or deffects as well.that is why if you arent black you have a lot of hardship to survive on earth, skin cancer, sun burns name the rest.but blacks dont know such thinngs.all the invention were because they needed to survive.a black skin color never changes due to illnesses or climatic condidtions this just because God make them to perfection to suit all the conditions here.strength,talents etc.sometimes i dont know where asians belong cos in most cases in most countries u hear of white or black nothing else.even in movies how many of the chinese to u see actually aprt form my good friends like Gong Li. jackie and Jet Li.not to talk or music and other. but I love chinese cos my vision doesnt differenciate skin color. they look the same to me but my mind defferenciate people based on characters not color.if i hate u i hate u no matter if u are yellow white or black the hate is the same as well as has no connection from which country or continent u come from
In a discussion where I believed Arabs are more racist than whites for the simple reason that they have it in their tradition of 1400 years that said ‘there is no preference of a man over a woman, an Arab over a non Arab except in piety’, someone pointed out an Arab will never kill anyone because of his skin colour but (wicked) Englishmen do, well referring to racist killings at the time in england.. Chinese will not kill a black simply because they dont like his skin colour but what was done to Lou Jing and continued in comments to this article is more than murder.
The fact that someone in his own tiny little mind that has no understanding of the biological and chemical changes going on within his or her body at any given second, dependent on air, water and food to mention a few,think they are and justify the thought of being superior than other races in any way is abhorrent and repulsive.
But then again they are online and punching the keyboard, none of these repulsive hypocrites will come out in public and admit this. So theres my challenge to all of yuz.
There is a big difference between ‘cultural reservations’ which every people have a right to and ‘racist remarks’ cos you were denied love as a kid. Yeah some will say they were loved, no you think you were loved but it wasnt enough, for if it was, we wont be having this discussion.
In an African country, many chinese men go to make money, most leave their families back in china and end up having black mistresses. One particular guy, got his mistress pregnant, then went home on holiday and a few days after he got back he died, his wife and child in china still dont know he has a son. In that African country no one is condemning the woman or the child.
Finally everything a black is capable of, a white, yellow, brown, asians, chinese or otherwise and the rest of citizens of earth are capable of and have done it.
I have no idea why i am writing this as if it will educate or change the notion of these ignorant haters. Get a life guys, Chinese women will always like blacks, whites and japanese too ;) Aint nothing you say is going to change that. The laugh is on you foreva!!! One Blackanese or Blasian is born every day ;)
We all love Lou Jing!! Plenty plenty..!
Dude, can you like use the term Mainlanders instead??
not all of us chinese are from China.
Just another nappy haired she boon. Only good for reproducing and stealing. Seems like the male species never stay around with the rest of the troop after he impregnates the female ape.
@Malaysian… if you are referring to my use of Chinese, I wasnt being specific, from mainland or otherwise, any man anywhere can do anything. All the ignorant fools on this site know or think they know Black African people because they watch hiphop ganster songs and basketball as if all Black Americans are Africans, though Africans welcome them black or mixed.
Eitherway scientifically speaking, Chinese are decendants of Blacks.. A research done by Chinese. Read it in New scientific years ago, if someone wants to choke on that then…. Oh and I have Malaysian Chinese friends so I know. My point remains my point, everyone from everywhere is capable of anything..
Its a shame here people are having to defend their existence or the right to be from bigots, really its a waste of time. The west is the most of anti china but these same chinese bigot drool all over a westerner. All the Chinese bigots here that look down on Africans equally look up to Whites, inferiority complex if you as me..
To all the black ladies that left comments above, these bigot lot are not worth your justifications or your defence. Nobody is. You were created to live, to last like everyone.
That’s the point, i’m asking you to be specific.
we ain’t no commie dudes!
I aint stereotyping to satisfy your prejudice – and China isnt communist but capitalist, keep up with the times, dont know y it bothers you if you are innocent.. Go elsewhere to play ‘attent to me’ – I know more Malay Chinese than I do China Chinese and none of them need clarification but you.
I am a black male. I have dated many races, from black girls to Chinese, Japanese, White Americans etc. amount all the girls that I have dated with, it is only Chinese girls that I will never repeat dating even if giving free. This girl spell Garlic, you can’t stand them at all.
I think some of you need to be humuliated and cursed over and over again by “white trash” in America, and then you will realize you are no better than a whole bunch of “yellow trash”. Use the perfect Chinese word to describe you all: “Jian”. Kiss up to the white folks and look down on black brothers and sisters. How do you think white Amricans percieve us Chinese? To be frank,no better than how you guys think about the black folks. Please respect yourselves and don’t be racists and ignorant. Thank you! By the way, I am a Chinese.
LOL that is not a woman. it is a cow.
This Chinese must be mixed with Inferior Non Han.
First of all,to be with a black woman brings me one of the best feelings in my life.I myself married to an African American woman and we have been deeply loving each other for more than three years.And the love between us never change for one second because of the race or the skin.On the contraty,we attracted to each other just because the difference of the skin colour,language,the way of thinking,knowledge and so on.We love each other not only in our body but more in our mental and spirit.I remember when we first started to date each other,as you can think,we became a cultural shock to most of people around us.They have never seen a Chinese guy and black woman together but I am sure in their mind they will never forget the image that we are together.Furthermore,we also affect those people everyday,to bring them an open world ,to show them how to enjoy different culture,to teach people how to express your love,to educate people how the world fuction outside of China.It is not a problem to see different races get together and fall in love in America and so many people are doing so and more people will.In china,the country’s GDP is growing faster but the way of people think is still fall behind despite of the culture difference(as we always use it as an excuse).The education system and the media broadcasting definitely are not playing important roles in leading people to a correct way and making people have more open mind to observe this world.It is very hurtful to see my own people act very childish and naive in the media.
Secondly,love is never just about sex.As we have been living together,my wife has been teaching me stuff from basic knowledge that I never knew before.I found myself have become more and more knowledgable and smart everyday.And I am also trying to teach her Chinese language or whatever as much as I can.So we really are good lovers,couples,friends and partners.We have been seting up our goals together in education and business and we are working on them.It never just about sex.And for those people who think Asian guys cannot satisfy black woman,you all need to stop dreaming of other women and go home satisfy your own woman first.
Thirdly,people should pay more attention to the culture that black people have,not just love to talk about their sex.There are so much you are learn that you never heard in life before.And please remind of yourself that how many celebraties and sportsmen whom you are crazy for are all black.You all need to use internet and find out how people went to Africa and destory that land and did so many horrible experiments on African people,changed the Egypt face to other colour,spreaded diseases,stole the culture and so many more things.I was shocked when I got all these knowledges in Ameican where all the information are free to everyone since our books in China never taught us before.
As a black woman’s Chinese husband,I am very pround of my wife.She can cook the best dishes in the world with different flovers,she knows so many music styles from different regions,she take care family,she is very smart shopper,she has so many knowledge in all kinds of fields,she can recite bible like WOW,she helps people especially women and children,she always fights for right,she……How many young genenrations in China can do so with all the spoiled temper,bad habit,lazy mind?If we want to make China become the best country in the world,we all need to educate ourselves more and improve ourselves and fit this world not just talking non-sense and don’t know ABC.
Smart people will know to catch up other people while catching up himself.Sadly to see so many posts here are negetive about this couple in Shanghai.It is a pity that people don’t get a chance to really get to know each other first but judge others by race and religion.We love to say this world is becoming smaller and smaller.We have all the Olympics,Expo,Sports,Music to bring all races together but some people still have narrow mind.It is just so sad that sometimes the different ways of people’s mind can make this world look so nasty.
Anyway,I am in love with my wife and I am sure my wife is doing the same.We love each other’s culture and enjoy ourselves.Nothing can make us apart and No one will never break us down!!!
Nigger!!! uaghhh….
If a Chinese wants some brown sugar then more power to him. Fuck all of you racists and racists who hide behind psuedo intellectual comments.
Chinese and black is not a uncommon mix for you ignorant assholes that are replying. Chiney man love black woman. Black woman love chiney man. thats how you get black chiney’s. Ask anyone in the Caribbean. That mix is what is up… If you get shunned for that in china then w/e. Chiney boy do your thing. These other idiots dont know what there missing.
signing out,
a fellow Chiney. (a Black Chiney at that )