From Mop:
While working this afternoon [20 December 2008], I received a telephone call saying that a batch of cats were going to be shipped to Guangzhou, asking everyone to bring cat food, water, etc. and go rescue the cats. Even though we are Guangdong people [Cantonese] , we long ago despised those heartless Guangdong people who eat cats, these people having made all of us lose face. Cats, dogs, all are very kind-hearted, affectionate animals, and absolutely should not be eaten. Moreover, eating cats or dogs is not healthy and not hygienic, none of them having been inspected by the Food Safety Administration, so who knows why these damned people would go eat them. Today, we want to go stop these cats pitiful fate, using all of our power to go save them.
Pictures from GZCat Blog: (over 1500 comments)
9:30 at night, the friends of cats gather at Guangzhou Train Station.
“angle” [common misspelling of "Angel"] is a very compassionate little MM, only 17-years-old.
The water and food that everyone brought for the kitty cats.
Television reporter interviewing us.
Homemade cat-friends signboard.
Please do not eat cats and dogs!
Cats are our friends, not food!
The police will not let us gather.
After looking at our fliers, they left.
Entering the train station to find the cat shipment train.
Uncertain which end the cat shipping train is at, everyone split into two directions.
Seeing the animal shipping train, “Angle” and I dashed over to it.
So many so many train cars.
“Angle” cannot find the train car shipping the cats, very dejected.
Have not seen the cat shipping train car.
Disappointed “Angle.”
Train manager staff says: There have been shipments of cats before.
Netizen provided picture of train station cat shipment car.
Poor kitty cats piled layer upon layer.
Kitty cat’s expression is so sad~ What are you thinking about, my poor kitty.
Poor kitty-cat~ you must be thinking of escaping these crowded cages of death.
These cruel people treat kitty-cats just like this.
Please spare them, do not eat them!
Comments from Mop: (over 1400 comments)
If they were serious, they would not eat anything with a face, on one hand eating mutton and on the other hand discussion how to stop others from eating cats, NB people.
You people, with your so-called compassion, why do you not go help disaster areas or with Hope projects?
You people, with so much time on your hands, why do you not go study hard or work hard?
You people, with such an intense sense of justice, why do you not go crack down on crime or prevent corruption?
A 17-year-old MM as the leader? Have you graduated from middle school yet?
Only knowing how to blindly cause disturbances!
If you saw someone stealing a pursue, robbing, or bullying others, would you go stop them?
You guys have too much time on your hands, do not use your hypocrisy to show off your guys’ compassion!
You not eating cats does not mean you are great and pure!
Although I have never eaten cat meat, I never felt that cats cannot be eaten. After seeing this post, I decided that I must try the taste of cat meat in the future.
Would it not be easier to just kill all Guangdong people?
Wasting all that energy just to go stop a train…
SB250, if you have the compassion, go be concerned about the disaster areas, okay?
Kitty cats are so cute, how can you manage to eat them?
Who will come rescue our cute pigs?!
Pigs, my poor pigs! You cruel people! How can you do this to pigs?! I call forth all Moppers who love pigs to also come surround and forcibly stop trains! The big pig rescue operation/movement!
I do not promote nor am I against eating cat, but when a few people stopping others from eating cats I bet the pigs, cows, and sheep all feel puzzled.
When sleeping at night, do not TMD swat mosquitoes. Such false kind-heartedness.
The reason humans raise animals is to resolve the problem of finding food. When food became sufficient, it gave rise to pets and related things. So, eating cats is actually not a problem, not worth going against or worth supporting. Treat it as normal. When a cat is your own pet, take good care of it, but when it becomes food, it is also not worth fighting against.
If she brings it home, would she be able to raise it? Where would she raise it?
If you do not cull cats [for epidemic prevention], they will the same as mice as a source of disease.
Those people who eat [cats] will all get their just deserts. I support that young girl’s actions, but depending on just her efforts as one person simply will not change much. If the government does not care, our concern as ordinary people is not much use. Cats have souls, those who eat them will get retribution…
The main thing is that their way of eating cats is too cruel, so I suggest killing them more quickly [humanely]. Boiling them alive…too “KB” [恐怖 = kongbu = terrifying]!!! Kill them quickly like the way pigs are killed, then eat them~~~cows, horses, pigs, sheep, which of these are not known as humanity’s friends? So why do we not see people go rescue them?! Unless you are a vegetarian, you have no qualifications to say anything.
Too cruel, can it be that they do not know ecological balance?
Either you buy them and take him home to raise, or you shut your mouth and quietly stay at home.
NB people, you guys pay so much attention to a single cat’s fate, yet there are so many homeless bums on the streets of Guangzhou, so many laid-off unemployed workers, but do you pay attention to them?!? Stop pretending like you guys have so much compassion. Remember, that is not called compassion. When you do not even go pay attention to human conditions, do not tarnish the word “compassion!”
I agree with most of the above people’s views, this MM is indeed a S…B…, with nothing better to do.
You see so many pigs, sheep, chickens, ducks, they are also pretty cute animals, so why do you not also go stop their [shipping] trucks/trains? Is it only because cats and dogs are a bit more cute?
Also, do not compare cats and dogs with humans.
You guys probably have never raised cats before~~underestimating their reproduction abilities…if people do not eat them..they will eat people into poverty…even though I do not eat cats and dogs…
There are no Guangdong people who do not eat [cat meat]!
To protect these little animals only depending individual people’s strength is difficult to implement/realize~
I hope everyone can unite together to fight against this kind of disgusting behavior!
Poor cats and dogs.
Specially set up a cat-raising factory/farm, that is specially responsible for raising cat-meat.
If you want people to treat eating cat meat the same as eating pork and beef, first set up a cat-raising factory/farm.
I do not like cats, I like dogs, hehe, but I too have never eaten cat meat, and feel it is pretty cruel. In the past, I had dog meat once, but after that, I have never eaten it again. It is too too too cruel, and I could not swallow it. They are all the same as humans, have thoughts, have brains, and have souls. I am truly afraid they will come find us after they are dead [as ghosts]~
Only those who have seen dogs and cats being killed believe it is cruel.
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Very proud of her, she’s a brave girl !
‘5000 years of civilisation’ and still a backward bunch of superstitious fuckwits.
However, how can we expect a country that has very little regard for human rights to give a fuck about animals. We’re not that perfect back in the west.
I still admire those kids for trying though – more power to them.
I agree with you
Yes. And you are a racist fuckwit. So don’t criticize others -___-
While I understand the motivations, saving these cats is simply not a good option.
As we saw last year when one lady housed 800 cats that she had freed in her apartment, freeing cats is doing little good for them these as cats are not healthy one they are crated.
It takes a lot of medical attention, food, and care to make sure these cats do not die very painful deaths.
We covered it on Crossroads, and you can find the posts here:
800 Cats Saved.. Saved From What?
800 Cats Saved.. Saved From What? – Update
My hope would be that she can catalyze a movement in GZ to curb demand while at the same time create enough of a public relations issue for those parties that are crating and selling house pets for food.
@Sinosceptic, I don’t see the point of connecting cat-eating with human rights except for sounding patronizing.
Cat-eating may be part of the subculture of Southeastern China, which has been recently found to be repulsive due to cats’ rising status as pets. Understandably, you find it contrary to your belief system. So do I. But, that does not warrant your standpoint on the ‘5000 years of civilization’ and human rights. You are plainly prejudiced and arrogant. So people in the west think they are morally superior to the Chinese? What a joke!
Most Hindus would consider you beefeaters (including myself) scum of the earth…
I voted for cats as delicious in the poll. Who’s the other 5?
meat is meat. It is the psychological connection we have that allows us to differentiate between “pets” and “food.”
Or perhaps it’s the dissociation between the cute little farm animals raised in the country and the neat, antiseptic packaging of tender little cuts of succulent meat at the local market that prevents the cognitive association of the two.
What gives cats and dogs more rights than cows and pigs? What makes them more of human’s friends than those species that we eat everyday?Is it just for their nature of being cute and submissivity? Who can talk about animal rights under that pretext without being super hypocritical?
@Sinosceptic
Your first sentence is blatant racism. It’s okay if you express your closet-sino-racism under the disguise of criticizing the government for human rights. (Although it’s funny that you are even talking about the human rights of Chinese people when you clearly hate Chinese so much. Don’t you feel better if the government oppress those “backwards bunch of superstitous fuckwits” harder?) Just keep it under control. If you say it outloud, it makes me feel like I am obliged to waste my time replying to you.
I too don’t really have a problem with the idea of eating animals that are traditionally thought of as pets. I ate dog when i was in North Korea, and it was delicious! Really! Actually, all I had was a puppy (I wasn’t hungry enough for a dog).
I guess the problem I have is those pictures of cats piled up in crates like that. I know it’s really no different than the chickens KFC stocks in warehouses that spend their whole lives in a cage barely bigger than they are (and I loooooooove KFC!), but I guess it’s because cats are cute and I used to have a cat (until I ate it – jk) that it made my stomach turn.
I’ve often laughed at people who make these distinctions, but it’s true – we feel sorry for the cute animals, but not the ugly or just regular ones.
I say more power to her! That’s what youth is for – fighting against perceived injustices.
Nice to see them taking their voices to the street and actually acted to change things, they are the hope of our future generation, and civil society is not too far away. I would have joined them if I were there.
Guangzhouers have a SOLID reputation of eating all sorts of junk, from ermine skin to snake, and recently I heard theres dolphin soup on their menu. LULZ.
There was also a small gathering by beijing pet lovers at beijing’s guangzhou affairs office, to protest the exact same thing, though I am sure who inspired who. I saw photos showing a woman crying as she spoke to journalist, I feel for them.
more: http://news.163.com/08/1219/09/4TH0MAQ40001124J.html
Technically however, there isn’t much difference between having a piece of medium-red sirloin steak (preferrably with fries and salad, ehh.. I am hungry) and eating steamed cat meat, it all boils down to individual’s value. Chinese have been eating dogs for quite some time and no one ever gave a fucet, its only during the olympics that government banned this practice across beijing.
I personally would never eat cats, it offends my conscience, they are just too cute to be harmed, plus I have a wide selection of protein sources from ordinary livestock, there need not to be any addition.
i support the effort solely based on it being an attempt at creating change in a system where they see a need for change. however i’d have to echo previous commenters that freeing a bunch of cats won’t solve it. if they really want to see it change they should instead target the customers who buy cat in the first place with awareness campaigns etc.
i’d bet as long as people buy them, restaurants will keep serving them. i doubt they’d take a loss of profit because someone said their dish was cute.
@kellen
given china’s conservative and tight society they can’t be very loud at start, campaigning at supermarkets like american presidential election would mean handing their asses to the police, then they will be unable to go further.
so what they did was appropriate, I hope they keep up this good work.
from my observation, southeners have a strong sense of civil society and rights, no wonder the reform began from Shenzhen, modern politics can flourish there, as I wish so.
I am disheartened at some of the attached comments calling them hyporits, these ppl should die in a fire. This is about a new China, A FUCKING NEW CHINA.
Angle aka “Angle” is pwetty. Did she leave her contact information by any chance?
whoa, someone is ON.
take away the cats from the subject, its good to see that Chinese are able to gather and protest, even if only about stupid stuff. Although i suspect that if they protested about more serious concerns their little party would have been promptly shut down
Some of the original posts criticized these people for helping cats when there are other more important issues. I’ve always hated this kind of empty argument. Since there is a problem of magnitude 10 it means you can’t do something to fix the problem that’s only magnitude 2 or 3? That’s stupid and the people that suggest cat-lovers should be putting their resources to better use probably do nothing to help anyone. While at least the cat-lover is doing something positive and more often than not, people who are compasionate towards animals are just as compasionate or more so towards people.
Another note, there is little or no oversite in China for cat, dog, civet, etc meat, so these animals are much less hygenic/safe to eat than pork, beef, or mutton which actually have regulations regarding how theyre raised, slaughtered, shipped, packed, stored. These dogs and cats have plenty of parasites, viruses, etc. that can easily effect people and pets. So, whether you agree with eating dogs and cats or not, the way it is done in China is unsafe for people. That alone should be reason to stop it, or at least regulate it.
great girl
of course human rights is about animal rights as well, we are animal.
I am not anti people who are eating animal meat, that is natural.but when you enjoy the food everyday, please spend a little bit more time to care about the animals is also important.
I have no beef with eating cats or dogs, I mean, even eating man meat is a prerequisite for any of my girlfriends.
I used to eat my fingernail, does that count as eating human??
When I was new to this country I asked a coworker what Chinese people didn’t eat. She said that there was no beast under heaven and earth that Chinese didn’t want to eat, and was quite proud of it too. I waited a few minutes and then the conversation drifted to something else wherein I had reason to ask if she believed that humans were also animals… much like dolphins, chimps etc. She said yes, but of course.
I then made a quip about having a solution for Chinese overpopulation and world hunger… she didn’t get it.
I don’t eat any meat myself (and I hear Rick in China’s girlfriend’s only get the tiniest nibble :p) but the “meat is meat” argument is patently bollocks. Most cultures distinguish between eating herbivores and other omni-/carnivores for either taste or health reasons.
@ Veer Left:
LoL, nice.
@ Rick in China:
LoL, sorry, buddy, but even you have to admit that was a cute jab at you.
Eating cat meat or any meat is a matter of taste. Some people like beef, others lamb, others chicken.
When emotional attachment develops with those animals which we have domesticated and keep as house pets, there are bound to be protests coming from those who love their (and all) cats, dogs and even monkeys…in some countries, monkey’s brain is a delicacy.
Question: do animals have a soul? do they feel pain? Do we want to inflict pain? Have we seen the tears in the mother cow while she watches her young calf being led to the slaughter?
Muslims slaughter animals in the least painful way.
do animals have a soul?
positive
do they feel pain?
positive. pets can have depressive disorder just like humans.
Do we want to inflict pain?
no if not for meals
Have we seen the tears in the mother cow while she watches her young calf being led to the slaughter?
haven’t heard this. my gateguard dog used to eat her babies so we had to seperate them, which is a firm sign that animals adopt another set of logic and moral, until we can read their mind its silly to judge them with our standards.
latest study reveals that plants have emotions and are able to react to surrounding conditions.
nature holds so many secrets that our studies so far have only touched the surface.
@ Jim
RE: “Most cultures distinguish between eating herbivores and other omni-/carnivores for either taste or health reasons”
That’s ridiculous – “many cultures” meaning your clearly small exposure to world cultures present and past, perhaps. In fact many cultures in the past have eaten other humans, or parts of humans, to some extent, it’s even mentioned in the bible and other ancient texts. I don’t get your classification of edible based on animals being herb/omni/carnivorous either, there’s little to no relation – are you implying people don’t eat bear meat? There are lots of bears in Canada, and many Canadians have tried bear meat, your writing style implies GB which lets me know you don’t have many carnivore/omnivores available for eating thus your small perspective on what people deem edible…ridiculous – I suppose South America, Africa, North American, Australian rules don’t apply.
@Smickno
RE: “Question: do animals have a soul? do they feel pain?” A question to answer your question, do HUMANS have souls? I think not, personally, just electrochemical impulses. Do animals feel pain, though, of course – pain can be measured. Unless you mean emotional pain, to which yes – many animals feel what we consider ‘emotional’ pain as can be seen from a female dog losing all her puppies and acting apparently ‘insane’ afterwards. Some animals are less maternal.
“Muslims slaughter animals in the least painful way.” While their religious text preach this – only kill what you need to eat and kill etc etc also, it’s a cultural rather than religious phenom in the west. There are huge movements pushing “Kind” animal killing for food, humane ways to manage and kill our meat supply, and it’s not based on religion.
@Kai
I suppose, but it could have been a lot better – I pretty much intended to lay it out for a plain beating with that pun-filled statement….kind of disappointed that’s all I got back :)
of course it is silly to judge them by our standards
so which standard should we use??
what ever human & animal ,we all have commons, the action by love and care will be always welcome. better than nothing
the more important is you try to help, that is the hope for the world.
@Peteryang
You are right to say that we don’t know all there is to know about animals, and they do exhibit dfferent behaviours/responses in identical stimulus. But do you agree that generally, animals, including humans, would protect their young. Understand you have not seen tears in the eyes of mummy cow, but those are real tears.
Based on your reasoning, that we dun understand animals fully, maybe we should say that those tears were because the butcher preferred a small calf to HER, and so mummy cow cried because she was upset that she wasn’t selected for the killing.
@Rick in China
You are funny. I like your electrochemical theory. About pain, I was referring to physical pain when nerves send electrochemical signals to the brain. Your enlarging my question to include emotional pain has given to another dimension to it: do we want to inflict physical and/or emotional pain?
Sure, muslims do not have monopoly in inflicting the minimum of pain. Anyway, pain is pain, however minimal it is.
I’m widely read enough in the anthropological literature to stand by that “most cultures” distinction, Rick. You’re clearly pulling your assertions out your arse. Raising the issue of cannibalism shows that – you ought to be aware that eating other humans primarily had ritual or religious connotations, such as possessing the power of a defeated enemy by eating their heart, rather than being just another item on the ordinary menu. The cannibalism seen during the Cultural Revolution fits the same pattern.
@Smickno
Do you believe plants feel pain? Seeing as you define (in agreement) pain as electrical stimulus sent to a nervous system which ends in a reaction we term ‘physical pain’, I believe plants have been proven to also share similar reactions to being chopped (while still alive). Because your vegetables or fruit comes dead off of the tree or out of the ground, at that point you’re simply chopping up or chomping on a dead animal, in essence.
Look up information regarding plans emitting VOCs (volatile organic compounds) as a result of stressful environmental situations, or damage/aggression. They too, feel pain – oh, poor Bonzai plant, please don’t shed a tear when your limbs are chopped slowly over the course of decades — what a cruel form of torture.
We don’t “want” to inflict pain on animals when we kill them for food – but we want to kill them so we can consume them, just because someone kills a dog or a cat doesn’t mean they “want to inflict pain on animals” – they may just want to kill them so they can consume them.
@Jim
….such as possessing the power of a defeated enemy by eating their heart…
I wonder what power people get by comsuming the heart of a loser.
@Rick in China
So it is about human semantics. What we coined as pain may not be pain in another language. By the way, do plants have a brain to decipher eletrochemical stimulus?
And my question has been answered after all: we do not want to inflict pain for the sake of inflicting it, but for the love of eating beef, lamb, Colonel’s chicken, pain and death are necessary.
Someone must die so we can live.
I think theres a fine line between animal cruelty and natural process, take chicken for example:
-cruelty: slowly chop off its wings and legs, extract its intestine, cut the tongue, poke the eyes, then put it in a boiling pot and watch as it is excruciated to death.
-natural process: chop its head off with one quick blow, make sure its dead, then do whatever you want.
水煮活猫 belongs to cruelty, period.
no men can be free of his conscience, or at least, not me.
People in China and especially in Guangdong eat anything under the sun. This is the first time I’ve heard about domestic cats as human food. I know dogs, rats, frogs, you name it are edible well according to Chinese culinary standards.
In the west, Cats have been domesticated as used as pets for hundreds of years. Now you look in most western countries, you get stray cats because dumbass lazy mofo owners got bored or can’t be fucked looking after their animal property.
I don’t mind people who eat cats as long as if they don’t have to force others to eat it.
If you don’t like the owners of the cats making lunch of their property, then don’t go to China or cry about it. If you want to do something, use your money and buy the cats and set up a sanctuary.
@Peteryang
You did a great job, using only your fingers on keyboard, with your description on what cruelty means. Next time I go to a KFC restaurant, I will remember your words.
@smick
people aint too happy with Kentucky Fried Cruelty either, I didn’t know until lately I saw chicks campaigning in its outlets, nudity however had more of my attention than their stories.
I think that Chinese cuisine’s use of all the parts of animal for cooking shows more respect for the source of the food than much of Western food. In the Uk most people’s only experience of meat is as pre-packed chicken breasts or steaks on the supermarket shelf.
If you’re a carnivore it seems pretty hypocritical to decide that certain animals should be off the table.
That said, the conditions that many food animals are kept in China is appalling. It’s not just the suffering of the animals themselves, but the risk to public health. SARS and the Avian flu outbreaks have been laid at the door of overcrowded husbandry situations.
So why do cats get a priority over cows, pigs, chickens and ducks.
What a fucking animal racist!!! Putting cats above other animals because it’s cats
That’s like saying white people are more superior to black guys.
Animal racist.
When famous Serbian journalist (and maybe most renowned sinologist in Serbia) visited China after 7 years, his comment on new Beijing was: “There’s so many cats!”
I think I would eat a cat if I didn’t eat for two weeks (or maybe less). When it comes to famine, you wouldn’t say: “This kitty is so sweet, let her go”. You would say: “Damn! Pint of beer would be nice with kitty… Oh, well… Come kitty,kitty…”
Cats and dogs are “famine food”. Food that would be eaten in case of famine. Centuries of famine in China made cats and dogs acceptable food in other cases.
Animal racist? :facepalm:
I know I can’t intellectually justify advocating the eating of one type of animal whilst condemning the eating of another but I found those pictures of those poor cats REALLY upsetting :( It’s a cultural thing I suppose innit
Amazing, China is moving in the right direction and becoming more compassionate nation. I am always shocked at how the Chinese people treat animals without any regard to suffering faced the animals they slaughter. You should see the video clip send out by animal rights groups, skinning of animals alive or putting live animals in boiling water.
If man must eat meat, try babies and seniors! They’re less useful and won’t know what’s going on plus you’d be saving the planet by population control. Babies are good for stir-fry or barbecue and old people are good for stew or stock. Oh, no more tax-payer’s money on wasteful executions, criminals are just delicious if not more so. It makes my mouth water just thinking about it.
@Kit
Clearly you aren’t aware of how animals are used in the UK, or ‘western’ parts of the world. Let me enlighten you.
RE: “In the Uk most people’s only experience of meat is as pre-packed chicken breasts or steaks on the supermarket shelf.”
From their visual experience, this may be true. Where do you think ‘processed’ meat comes from? Hot dogs aren’t ground up beef flank, my man. The “not so appealing” parts of animals from most western perspectives is still used – not thrown away – just in different ways….look it up.
@skljfsadopif, you certainly have a peculiar sense of humor. But from a ‘foodal’ perspective, what you said is entirely true. I’m wondering if cannibalism can ever make its way back to a gourmet’s menu. Definitely a valid point though
So PETA opened a Chinese chapter? the post sign looks very similar to the PETA ones outside of my school cafeteria, they want everyone to be vegan… I guess that’s the next step.
kill a cat and eat it… i hope you have forever genital herpes on your tiny weens that will spread to your whole body… where is the humanity in these people.. they are nothing but beasts who take pleasure in killing and torturing them knowing that these poor animals have no way of escaping this
You can find their website “Guang Zhou Cat” in one of the posters
http://gzcat.org/bbs/
(Chinese)
and they even have a subforum dedicated for this incident
http://www.gzcat.org/bbs/index.asp?boardid=30
@buddyuk
“It’s a cultural thing I suppose innit” :bitchslap:
Yeah just like how you keep chicken couped in cages for their whole lives so you can chew on a KFC meal or eat your scrambled eggs. Or how the upper class say it’s fine to go fox hunting, or how about horse racing and it’s fine to hit them with a whip to make them go faster.
Guess it is a cultural thing ain’t it? retard………….
I eat meat. I don’t eat dogs and cats because the society I grew up in frowns upon that. Other than that I seriously don’t see what’s wrong with ingesting dog/catmeat
@Kay
Killing a cat or dog for food does not equate to “killing and torturing” – would you feel any different should these animals be killed in a “humane” as in equally humane to other meat products you see at any foreign grocery store method?
The question is really whether or not Cats or Dogs bred for eating (eh, they’re bred for eating, not stolen from people’s homes or snatched off the street….at least not commonly to my knowledge) have any more rights then pigs, chickens, cows, frogs, various birds, turkeys, whatever.
The cultural issues alluded to by some, meaning an imposition of western values on Chinese values, is weak since these are local Guangdong people fighting against the cat trade, not outsiders or foreigners. Chinese people have kept pets for centuries, it’s not some new thing that Westerners brought them.
i trust shes a vegetarian?
man, GZ peeps aint got a dime on hainan peeps. go to the wet market in haikou, i saw this old bitch with a cleaver, using the bluntend to hit something ina sack. after she’d knocked-out/ semi -knocked-out the things, fuck, it was a bag full of cats. my friend couldnt watch, i cudnt but flinch.
the blunt end to put them kinda out then they get throat slit, hard to watch
anyhow kool g rap said it best
“the only pussy im licking is ur ass with a whip”
oh and yeh i wud eat YOU if it came to that, same as every1 else
Carnivores flesh is better than a herbivores nutritionally
ok, a small fact, do u know what human can survive on the longest?
human flesh, raw. it contains the most similar amino acids we need to survive, pigs are about 95%. u can live a near life time eating humans, only mineral deficiency will get u afetr a very long time.
any 1 4 bbq 2nite?
the obvious solution is we eat chinese people, no famine for decades…..and justice will have been served
Good initiative ofcourse, but rather amateuristic while this problem needs a professional, militant approach. (eg learn about PETA http://www.helpthaielephants.com/)
Sad story how they were looking for the train with cats but could not find, bit funny as well. I prefer more agressive handling, no soft tough !
wheres my armalite? democracy my 16″ cock. bomb the farms and trains. kill em all, but not the cats
I like cats; despite that I disagree with people who march around forcing their ideas on people. I find the idea of eating cats sickening; but I do not condemn them for their choices. A person who chooses to eat cats is not uncivilized; as there is no universal definition of what civilized is. There are lots of shocking things in life, and as long as no one is being hurt or forced to participate, people need to accept the truth; because forcing others who are different to think like you is called Facism.
@Mike
RE: “Chinese people have kept pets for centuries, it’s not some new thing that Westerners brought them.”
Are you implying that cats/dogs have not been eaten for centuries, and that it is a relatively new trend in China? You do realize that the cats/dogs people eat are not the same as the cats/dogs people keep as pets – they don’t bake up persian cats, or boil maltese dogs.
@Pussy
RE: “ok, a small fact, do u know what human can survive on the longest?”
Aside from the obvious – you’re either a teeny brought up on SMS grammar or an idiot, or combination of both, made clear through the misrepresentation of facts in your post as well as the horrible writing you choose to express them with – you have no clue as to what you’re saying, do you?
First of all, human flesh is not at all healthy – our diets consist of a huge amount of preservatives and synthetic/intensely reared substance for one thing – but even had that not been the case I would like you to point out specific studies on the proteins, fats, and mineral content comparison of human flesh to any animal commonly eaten or not. In addition, because a pig has similar *anatomy* to a human does not mean its meat contains the same health benefits. I don’t even know where to target with these, considering your entire post has more holes than a whore house.
@~~~
RE: “Fascism”
I agree with your intention, but you have to understand also people have the right to protest and voice their opinions – I also don’t agree with eating cats, personally, but I wouldn’t take it to the extent of protesting people who do. The people who do want to take their disagreement to the extent of protesting that should have a right in full to voice their concerns and/or anger, and try to persuade others into joining their frame of thoughts – both of these rights are equally important in my eyes.
Actually, according to some documents, the Chinese have had a habit of eating human flesh for medicinal reasons. Children would cut off pieces of flesh to feed to their ailing parents.
Incidentally, it’s also in Herodotus with a bunch of non-Greek barbarians eating human meat; some king got pissed off at the disloyalty of his minister, so he forced his minister to eat his son. Cooked, of course.
@Inst
Cannibalism is rampant throughout many cultures, it predates tribalism. I posted something about that earlier. The argument made was the healthiness, not the mysticism, regarding human flesh. I’d wager there is little to no data analyzing the health benefits of eating human flesh to the point I’m not spending more than the 5 minutes I’ve spent looking. :)
@Rick In China
I wasn’t saying that people shouldn’t protest. I indirectly was replying to the two posters above me.
@ Inst
That’s called “Blood Libel”. Its been used throughout history to incite people against a particular group of people.
Wikipediaman:
Isn’t that what we’re doing with the cat-eating thing? Then after we’re done tarring the Chinese, we’ll go on to bashing the Koreans for eating dog.
Frankly, I don’t have a problem with eating people, as long as it’s consensual. As long as you don’t end up with gangsters selling homeless people for meat (hey, shouldn’t stripping them for organs be more lucrative?), it shouldn’t be a problem.
Rick:
It’s a pseudo-scientific thing, like tiger penis to improve virility. Part of the probably apocryphal Next Weekly story about Chinese eating aborted fetuses involved some sort of crap about stem cells; while you can contract cancer from eating tumors, cooked stem cells are biologically inert.
I don’t consider Cantonese as Chinese. I consider these people as animal. They like to embarrass Asian and real Chinese everywhere they go. They are the trash of the trash.
@ Inst
No, Blood Libel and cat-eating aren’t the same. Since your familiar with Wikiepedia, I trust that you might have done some research. You might have read that “Blood libels are sensationalized allegations that a person or group engages in human sacrifice, often accompanied by… acts of cannibalism. The alleged victims are often children.” Eating cats can be used to condemn the Chinese; but what this article, and the majority of people here, are doing is tarring the practice.
But hey, I agree with your stance on cannibalism. Same thing with cats, as long as they aren’t putting a gun to my head and shoving grilled feline into my mouth, they should be left alone.
in wikipedia we trust.
All those bitter people who are ancrily typing “Now why don’t these sentimental silly girls now try and save cows, sheep, chickens”
are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
We SHOULD be trying to think how humanity can be more caring in all areas. We SHOULD be trying to draw equivalences between cruelty to pets, farm animals, cruelty to humans and human rights abuses.
It is POSSIBLE to live a kinder life on all fronts.
Go VEGETARIAN!,
CONSUME less!
And stop beating up on people who are adding a little loving kindness to the world in one particular area.
If you think loving kindness is needed in another area.. then go do that .. TOO! It is possible to love humans and animals.
It is possible to love the earth and humans too.
More compassion earthlings!
We are all living beings on this planet.
We all love our children and our parents.. whether human or animal.
@ComPassion
After reading that rhetoric….to be honest….I kind of want to skewer and eat bits of your flesh.
Mmm…vegetarian, likely a preference for organic yeh? Must be supple tender meat on yer bones.
*nonsense-off*
What’s with this preaching from a soapbox bullshit, “more compassion earthlings!”, we are the world, we are one – fuck off, we have canines for a reason, and it’s not to beaver-teeth our way thru apples.
I laughed out loud for that one.
@ComPassion
Can you imagine what will happen if we stop farming cows, chickens, pigs…? They’ll vanish from Mother Earth surface. Did you heard for symbioses?
I will pass on your comments to the Indian subcontinent
Milk and cow dung as fuel.
I have no problems with eating cats. In my eyes, cats are just normal animals like pigs, cows and ducks. I don’t even care how the west people think of it. We Chinese thought using forks are hehaviours of barbibans before
I just hope that eating cat won’t bring new disease to human beings.
I can’t find a single example of anthropophagy for primary dietary consumption (ie sustenance) when other foods were available.
So far as I can tell, Pussy’s claim that human flesh is more nutritious than other flesh has absolutely no credibility. I can’t find a single study which examines the nutritional value of human flesh. The only ‘example’ I can find is almost definitely a hoax, although I’m not sure who the originators are, which says a company by the name of Monsanto Mills supposedly uses medical equipment to grow human flesh in a lab, which they (again, supposedly) smoke and sell as “Human Jerky”.
Monsanto, according to the article, claims human flesh “…of all possible sources of natural proteins, supplies the proteins and nutrients most needed by the body.” The article goes on to say such claims have not been independently verified and that the FDA is “closely watching all claims of nutritional value”.
As for surviving on a meat-only diet, of any type, I can’t find any independent research that examines the long-term health effects. There are many anecdotes about lacking vitamins, and scurvy seems a very real possibility, but without definitive peer-reviewed data I can only guess.
Thank God.
Well, Im getting hungry. I think i will eat one of the household pets. Here Rover, here Kitty, Kitty, Kitty.
我饿了
A cat is just another animal, some find it offensive to eat cast because they think cats are supposedly ONLY GOOD as house pet and cute little animals not to be touched upon by humans. Fine, good, but leave the people who will do otherwise alone, will ya?
I think people do not have right to prevent others from eating cats or other lovely animals. But people can advocate not eating cats. For example, people can advertise how cute cats are or how unsanitary to eat them. So when more and more people have mercy for cats, there will be lesser and lesser people to eat them.
The world would be better off if we’re all vegetarians. Eat less meat!!!
So many posts. Not one mentioned anything about eating pussy.
I think a lot of people have hesrd that cats have nine lives and they have some supernatural ability, so we’d better not eat cats!
Good on you for loving and protecting cats!
Yummmmmyyyyy cat meat.
MMMM!, Pets are meat. Sacralicious.
Activists are such a discusting group. Bored with their own existence, they spend their time trying to interfere and control other peoples lives. They have so little in their own lives to focus on that they need to find an external cause to parade about for.
Perfect yourselves internally first. Then consider a better use of your time than interfering with other’s customs and belief systems.
keep the fight against cruelty to animals
greetings from Chile
well, its like this. humans formed partnerships with cats and dogs to hunt, protect us, eat plague bearing rats and so on. so, if you have a choice, eat someone you havnt invited into the house.
As a cat-lover, I myself cannot bear the thought of someone eating a cat, or a dog for that matter. I can however, see both sides of the argument.
I am glad to see that these individuals believed strongly enough in something that they were able to express those opinions and tried to create a change.
Good for them.
Had it been me, I would have done the same. But then, I don’t raise cats for food. Granted, I don’t raise any animals for food, but I know more people who would eat a cow they raised than a cat. But that’s just me.
I live with a cat and a dog. Notice I don’t say I own them, we co-exist. Cats and dogs are animals that we live with and share our lives with. They make us happy to come home from a hard day at work, lie on our laps and reduce our blood pressure, hunt rodents, alert us to intruders and protect our homes. But I know you are going to say I am a hipocrat because I love a steak, bacon or a rack of lamb.
However I have never seen:
People at the park on a Saturday afternoon playing with their chickens. ( well some exceptions)
A car driving down the road with a cow hanging out the window enjoying the wind in his face.
My neighbors or friends walking their sheep.
A boat cruising down the river with a hog walking around the deck.
Someone once said ” Humans are the only animals which can be insulted by being called an animal.” Civilized people don’t eat other humans nor should they consume other animals that contribute to our social fabric and well being.
When I read these replies I feel like throwing up. I am against eating cats and dogs but I can kind of accept that some people do it and find it to be ok. What really bothers me is the way animals are treated in China and very few people object to it. I praise this girl and her friends for doing something and standing up for what she believes in and reading some of the comments she gets for her effort just makes me realise how barbaric some people can be. Cats boiled alive,, dogs skinned alive, strips of their meat cut off in a way that the animal is kept alive so that the “remaining meat” can stay fresh. The way these animals are transported and stored,, absolutely disgusting. People who accept and support this kind of thing have no face and are barely human in my eyes. Wake up and realise that tomorrow its 2009.
Awesome! =) I’m glad she did this. All you people who do not care about cats, or other animals being treated this way should die! Honestly, i know I’m gonna get lots of people hating me but i DON’T CARE. I’ll admit it, I care more for animals than humans. You shouldn’t wonder nor ask why, knowing how the human race is. But I DO respect and appreciate people like this girl and the other people that helped. I will speak my mind and what i said was meant.
that is not nice how about if you got eaten thats how cats feel
and they do not get to be adults!!!
(This is ture) :(
GuoBao fails at reading the calendar
While growing up in a remote northern Canadian village, I chanced to ask the only Chinese resident there “What do the Chinese eat”? She answered, “”Everything with its back to the sun”.
I as a human is ashamed to be one . Because sum ppl eats exiotic animals .
We r the most cruel animal u can ever find , even lions r better .
We always tries to eat everything because ppl sae one lifetime onc chance .
So wat !!!! Doesn’t means we can eat food for de sake of fun and thrill !!!
Imagine we r de food for those animals .
.Canned human heads
.minced human brain
.hotdogs made up of human meat .
.human liver hanging at the buther store which is tended by animals .
People pressing on human heart to see if it is fresh .
Would u laugh or comment stupid comment which discourage them . ( For people who tell dem to save time n energy to do better stuff ) .
I love animals , i dun eat dem if i do not need to .
Eating is for survival not for fun .
Media who taped sum actors eating rabbit eyes or cow vigania .. Pls stop !! It so unrespectful
i love animals they are not tasty chinas are dum because they eat cats
Look into a cat’s mouth, what do you see? Teeth for eating meat and they have a digestive system backing that up. Look into a human’s mouth, what do you see (other than fillings, gold, piercings, and missing teeth, maybe)? You see teeth designed mainly to eat grains, veggies, and fruit and we have a digestive system to back that up.
Humans have an almost unlimited ability to fool themselves, as well as to give love. Those who eat cats, dogs, chickens, ducks, pigs, cows, horses, snakes, rodents, and all sorts of fish, are fooling themselves if they think they will not pay in bad health and bad karma when they treat nature as if they are not a part of it, or above it.
Damn but even our 98% relative the chimps eat meat, too! Guess our 2% difference is only in digestive system and teeth! Been fooling ourselves since the beginning of humans, but thankfully, finally, someone is FINALLY able to transcend this self-foolery when even biologists, doctors, and nutritionists couldn’t even convert 100% of themselves to Veganism.
Anyway, animals are mostly all delicious and, well, I like the whole “survival of the fittest” argument.
So what are you saying? You are a chimp? Hey uneducated asshole-people who suffered strokes and have feeding tube inserted because they can’t swallow anymore, can live perfectly healthy normal lives off of tube feeding which contains NO animal products. Just illustrates meat is not necessary. I’ve been vegan for many years and my labs are perfect. My cholesterol dropped naturally from 200 to 119. Because I take in none and I’m living off my own body’s cholesterol. Your body makes all it needs. I’m networked with THOUSANDS of vegans and they all are in good health. So go screw a chimp-since you live like one-and eat your cat meat.
The reason that those in the West have issue with the eating of cats and dogs is because of the covenent between us. Cats, Horses, and Dogs have protected us from vermin, performed work for us, and have earned a place with us. It is inhospitable of us to treat these guests as food. Cattle, pigs, chickens, etc. are raised to be food and materials. I have raised cats, and I have raised cattle, and they do not have the same hearts.
Looking at the first responses, they are soo typically Am-er-ee-gan! people who have no clue about what is outside their own A-holes, let alone borders. culture less idiots!
YES people should not eat animals known to be pets! its not difficult to understand why this girl leads her protests.
As for having too much time on their hands and not helping in other types of crisis – America only delivered 10% of what they promised to the Sunami effort in late 05!
damn illiterate hypocrites. stay the hell out of other people countries and cultures, you just infest them with disease!
we damned foriegners brought u ingrates the internet
Many people in China still do not think of cats and dogs as legitimate pets. Times used to be tough in China and you ate whatever meat there was to feed yourself and your family even cats and dogs. China experienced mass poverty for a good many years. And I am sure that anyone from any country who was dirt poor and had no food would, given the chance eat a cat to stay alive. Now times in China are changing, more money, more jobs, better economy and people can afford to eat animals like pigs and cows and there is no need to eat cats and dogs. But like any society that has experienced great poverty and has come back from it tends to have a food pallet of some pretty strange things…Think of the french and the fact that some of their most celebrated dishes are made from the ass and entrails of animals…it’s because they were bloody poor and only the rich folk got the good cut of meat and they were left with crap…now the rich eat ass and lips and call it gourmet food. In China there are people that consider dog and cat high fare indeed and will for a long time. There are also those that see that the need for eating certain animals is no longer something that needs to be done. Put the cruelty to these animals aside for one moment and think about the fact that although China has one of the oldest civilizations in the world they have just really been adjusting to western ways and thinking since 1976…it takes time….these people trying to protect cats even though they eat pig and cow have the right idea but don’t understand the reasoning behind it all. I have been in Shanghai for 5 years now and it is very clear that regardless of all the giant skyscrapers and crazy technology you see here…China is about 35 years behind the western world in it’s social thinking….give them time….all you animal rights activists should at least give them credit for starting to think about what is right and wrong and at least trying to do something about it….The western mindset about anyone other then us is so ridiculous…How long did it take us to get it right? and really do we even have it right yet? A few suggestions to these people who are trying to save cats…As having a cat becomes more and more popular take the time to educate people on how to care for cats and why they should get them “fixed”….you start to control the population of cats and you have less and less strays on the streets and then if there is less strays on the streets then there will be less cats to eat…if there is less cats to eat the price of cat meat will sky rocket and only the rich will eat cat…the rest of society will think that eating cat is bad and tell the rich people so and the rich want to be cool and in fashion so they will stop eating cat….most of them anyway….secretly there will be a small number of very, very rich men who will eat cat…but it will be so secret that no one will know….so at the end of the day you can stop 99% of your country from eating cat and that’s pretty good….and there is always a chance that some dude that knows Thai kick boxing will come looking for his elephant and end up freeing all the cats and pandas and stuff and kill or beat the shit out of all the rich guys eating cat and then you have suddenly saved the world!!! Good for you little Chinese girls!!!
what is a legitimate pet then, crickets?
People for Eating Tasty Animals!
Cats are not tastey
@damn yankees
America only delivered 10% of what they promised to the Sunami effort in late 05!
According to a statement by Kofi Annan as of December 2005 the US had delivered “only 38%” of the initial $350 million pledge (or $185 million in cash) for direct aid.
Not included in the total was $700 million in cash, medicine, fuel, clothing, generators, refrigerators, communications equipment, temporary shelters, and other things that private citizens and public corporations gave to charities in the region.
Also not in that pledged amount was $226 million spent by the Defense Department for search and rescue and logistical operations from 26 ships, 58 helicopters and 43 airplanes which moved into the area within 8 days of the quake. 16,000 military personnel in eleven countries delivered more than 10 million pounds of food and supplies and 400,000 gallons of clean water.
Since then, Congress approved an additional $600 million for long-term recovery and redevelopment efforts (including things like infrastructure, housing, schools, clinics, early warning systems, and lifelong livelihood programs) of which around 90 percent has been earmarked for dispersal.
I’m not going to address your racist opinions… hate us all you want. But don’t pull numbers out of your ass and expect anyone to take you seriously.
i am so proud of the young people who are trying to save these beautiful creatures. No animal should be treated in such a horrendous way, and when i say no animal that includes livestock, and all those poor creatures in fur farms -watching others tortured and killed in front of them. Being kept in crates or cages, skinned or boiled alive, this is something I will never support-We have no authority to use and abuse animals but it will be a long and hard road before people come on board and start to realize without compassion we are nothing
Keep saving those cats !! and I pray that one day we can stop the suffering of all animals
I am very proud of this young girl for drawing attention to this issue. It is one of many… but to those people who are leaving those comments about how she should stand up for something else instead, then you should take a good look at the world. There are literally MILLIONS of problems, many of them unheard of to the majority of various populations. There is no need to belittle her act because you might think others are more important. She has managed to expand my knowledge on this issue, and I thank her and all the other supporters for that.
FYI, the German had their own receipe to prepare for dog meat, aka the “blockade mutton”. Dog meat eating was prohibited in Germany since 1986 for obvious reasons. Fox meat were also one of their favorite.
What I am trying to point out is, that culture value changes upon social behavior and developments, just that the Chinese is still one step behind more “humane” western societies. When dogs and cats domestication reaches a certain percentage in China’s population, I’m sure things will change.
Although you can use S.Korea to counter my points, they LOVE dog meat and their tradition.
BTW, the Guangdong/Guangzhou bashers. How many of you have been to Guangzhou? Yes there are some “wild taste” restaurants hiding somewhere in the alley and rural areas, but finding dog/cat/snake(especially live ones) meats in public restaurants in GZ is as hard as finding a virgin in U.S. college. And all the hype about 水煮活猫, it’s not even a cantonese dish, “water boiling” with tons of chili, is a SiChuan way to prepare food, Cantonese don’t eat spices. Get yall facts straight!
@ e about internet
Chinese invented Gun powder.
Gun Power > Guns & Cannon > Global Imperialism > Industrialization > Cyber Age.
So logically speaking, the Chinese is your great great grand daddy of invention.
And….. guess who invented the first calculating device?
The killing of animals in some back alley fashion is horrible no matter what kind of animal it is. Eating meat and foods that have not been tested and certified is unhealthy and backwards. I think it is inhumane to treat any animal poorly.
These people are brave, intelligent and far more inspirational than the people who have commented above. Animal Cruelty has NOTHING to do with disaster relief. They way you treat animals reflects the way you will treat humans as well. Humans can not go around killing and eating whatever they want just because they feel like it especially household pets that are caught by profiteers. I have been to Guangzhou and other parts of China and seen various form of extreme animal cruelty. Wild Monkeys being used as entertainers and beaten if they do not perform China is not a civilized place for people or animals and this is without any disasters. It is rare to find people who care about anything but money there and I am so proud of these protesters. Live is valuable no matter if it is an animals or a humans.
Because of the world wide internet. Everyone on earth can see that Chinese people are eating cats?? I am here in America, California. And I can see this news story. Eating cats will give Chinese people a bad reputation and bad name. People around the world will think Chinese are crazy. You must stop eating cats, dogs, and other endangered animals.
A good reputation (name) is very important for chinese people to be successful in this world.
This 17 year old girl is very brave and I am proud of her. Someday , she will be a good leader for china.
i think thats a good point i love that i might really kick their buts
This is proof that not all chinese people are fucked. Good on these activists, they are preserving the honor of the Chinese (Cantonese) people. See the rest of the world thinks China sucks ass massively because of skinning animals alive for the fur trade, by the million, eating cats and dogs and endless human rights abuses. People like Angle deserve to raised upon peoples shoulders and nominated as leaders, because they are far more decent people than the current leaders of China. Angle, people like you are the saving grace of your entire nation. Much respect to you.
One day i am going to kick the people buts who eat cats so china watch out if i hear that again i will murder cat eaters
I personally wouldn’t eat cat, but if that’s what they need to do to survive, so be it. IMO it’s just culture shock.
Thank goodness there are people speaking out against this atrocity, as well as other atrocities committed against animals in China such as skinning dogs alive for their fur. Cats are affectionate, intelligent beings that make wonderful companions….They should NEVER be used as food. And there is no excuse for transporting ANY animal, regardless of species, in such an inhumane manner.
i love the look on the police officer with glasses’ face in the picture “After looking at our fliers, they left.”
So glad that there are people in this country really would stand out to speak for those poor little animals. You did a good job girl!I gave this country up for those matters long time ago but i guess you just raised up my hope again! Thanks!
Wow, you’re kidding right?
Chinese have been eating cats for centuries,
China’s government is one of the most non-changing around,
Chinese hate being told what they can/can’t do,
What are they going to eat if they can’t have cat?
The feline population would be even more out of control in China if you let them alone.
I agree eating them is a despicable idea, but they’re just animals, not people, not endangered.
Grow up and put your efforts towards a better goal like ending hunger, poverty, protesting against your 5000 years of culture bullsh*t maoist government that lets people eat cats in the first place.
Cardboard signs at railway stations doesn’t help.
Oh I forgot why you can’t protest, you might be jailed or beaten by the police. After which you’ll have no hello kitty cell phone or backstreet boys album to listen to.
Nice pictures but looks like nothing was actually accomplished except this blog of your failed attempt.
I love animals.I dont want them to get hurt.they dont deserve wat their owners do 2 them.I would like 2 protest plezzz.i beg of u just help me save the animals.
Come on Swine Flu merge with Sars and do your thing, with these retards.
I guess we have to wait until the fall to see what happens with the Swine Flu.
For the rest of retards who post here and say cats are worthless animals and compare them to pigs. You are idiots. How can you compare farm domesticated animal bred for human consumption to cats which carry viruses that can not be controlled by the human body.
SARS started from eating Civet cats, a delicacy in china, I don’t think it came just from eating Civet cats, it’s from long term exposure of eating cats and dogs.
The swine flu will most certaintly mutate, into a more lethal form.
Unfortunately the people who don’t eat cats and dogs will die or become sick along wiht people who enjoy a puppy sandwich.
Dr. Retarded Lucy,
So you saying cats carry virus and shouldn’t be eating or whatever, then where the f the swine flu came from? I believe it’s from pigs, and then there are ring worms and mad cow disease…OMFG!
And yes, pray to the lord, wish for more virus kill those Chinese, because eating cats and dogs is a serious crime and human lives is nothing compare to that of a cat or dog, God will agree with you kind and blessed heart.
You see what the problem is here? When you dimwits confront with a culture you don’t understand, all you think of doing is to kill, to eradicate, to disgust, to
accuse and cuss at….the very reason you Americans are being targeted by terrorists, because of your retarded ego and that I-am-right-you-are-wrong-so-die! attitude.
The girl in this thread is doing what’s positive and constructive, to voice her opinion, to educate, to communicate, to pursuade and change. In comparison to her, the low-life is you!
It’s so sad that any animal is eaten for another animal, but thats the way the world is. What worries me more is the way animals are treated before they end up on the dinner table. We cannot stop nature being nature but we can at least stop the inhumane treatment of ALL animals before they are slaughtered.
I personally would never eat a cat or a dog or a horse, and I realise that everyone has a differnet opinion on what they eat. What we can do is change the laws around their treatment at ALL times regardless of thier purpose, pets or food.
How about UK send swine flu over there then they will be to sick to hurt cats!!! come on UK Do it
i would like to start off .. by saying~~~~!!wtf to all u chinese ppl out there eating cats or dogs…they where never considered as food.. but as loyal pets who will be there for u n by ur side…im am furious nd if there is any mean possible to stop this fucked up massacre..funding…you guys sghould be ashamed of urselfs!!!!!! nobody is actin its just talk n its all aload of bull!!!!! u should start up an animal welfare law…that will protect those poor souls… to all the ppl who eat cats n dogs especial… i hope u fuckin rot n hell… ur just maggots of life…. who r supposed to be killed n fed to rats to snack on …and after thrown n the bin…ACCCCCCCCCCCCCT DAMN IT!!!
I support these people 100% Keep doing what you are doing and save these cats!
You realize China’s animal cruelty is viewed as disgusting in the Western countries. Multitudes of animal lovers deliberately BOYCOTT China products as much as possible due to the animal cruelty, which is known far and wide all across America. We know about the 10,000 cats boiled alive daily in Guangdong China. We know about the dog cullings. And we cry, and we Americans get angry and boycott Chinese products. USA in every State has animal welfare laws, and there are Federal laws too that govern animal welfare. Please see Petition:
http://animalrights.change.org/actions/view/message_to_china_pass_animal_welfare_law_for_western_acceptance
Obviously, Luke Thomas, you don’t know jack shit.
China has animal protection laws too, that’s why no restaurant openly sells cat or other exotic meat on the menu, it’s illegal and will face a heavy fine. You can only find these in little underground kitchens in the back alley. Like sniffing up cocaine is illegal, but there are still lots of place you can get a fix in America.
You make it sound like eating dog and cat is a big food industry and commercialized, you don’t know what you talking about, you must be wetodded to believe in just whatever numbers thrown at you. Those train packed with cats are also illegally shipped, the train operators were bribed. The law is here, but enforcement level is weak.
Blame all Chinese and entire China for animal cruelty when just a small number of them, mostly old fools, eat dogs and cats is call stereotype and I think AMERICA has a law against that too?
You havn’t realize that China’s economy is turning inward and domestically consumed? Meaning…we-dont-give-a-flying-phuck when you try to boycott us, LOL…find out yourself how many US companies trying to squeeze in the China market trying to sell their goods here, LOL…maybe we should boycott you instead…hmmm.
China has NO animal protection laws whatsoever. I know this to be fact. Even in China Daily it reported you all boil alive 10,000 cats a day. So don’t try to pull your propaganda bull crap with me-it won’t work.
Oh, and before you BOYCOTT!!111!! Please pay back the 11 trillions dollars you owe to the Chinese government, we are your biggest loaner, the very reason you can still afford food today.
Hmmm… China is too big and to be honest I personally find what the Cantonese do quite disgusting when it comes to their eat-anything-that-moves culinary culture. I wish we were just different countries so that I don’t have to share this identity, Chinese, with them because we are so different that it becomes annoying when someone does something stupid, all Chinese get labeled.
We speak different languages, we have noticeably different gene pools, we cook differently, we eat different food, we value things in life differently and how the hell should we all be the same?
This is truly frustrating.
Why must these poor animals be boiled alive and skinned alive. That’s horrific and the conditions these cats -packed tightly and shipped like they were nothing-and obviously thrown which breaks bones. China disgusts me and I boycott as much China merchandise as humanly possible, and so do millions of other Americans due to their obvious disregard for the suffering of animals.
You all can justify animal cruelty all you want, but I”m telling you the way it is with America-it is AGAINST OUR CULTURE, and we deliberately AVOID Chinese products due to their animal cruelty. We Americans know very well what you all in China do. Keep on justifying it-and we will keep on boycotting YOUR CHINA PRODUCTS! I buy American made ONLY.
Oh please, get off your soapbox. “Against our culture” is a load of crap. Look for vids on KFC’s practices and how they treat their chickens. Go to any industrialized farm and see how they treat all the animals there. Go to an animal welfare shelter and hear stories about all the abused cats and dogs they find and take in. The whole world has a long way to go and no one should be preaching that their country is any better than any other country in this.
Dear Thomas,
You must be a wealthy man, cuz it’s kinda hard to find anything truly made in USA these days. The only way is to hire people and produce for yourself.
Got excited when you find them “Made in USA” clothing and other commodities once in awhile? Sorry for bring your this breaking news: most of these products are half made in China, then ship to USA and stitch up a sleeve or weld in a part, and BLAM! sticks on a Made In USA label and sell to those idealistic suckers for more bucks, LOL.
The truth is, no one can make anything 100% in the USA when that minimum wage. Ask me how I know, LMAO.
Max,
Hmm….you felt discriminated and treated unequally due to stereotype for being a Chinese? Well, guess how the majority of the Cantonese felt when you ppl blame all the dog and cat and rat eating to all Cantonese? At least out of all my friends and relatives, I don’t know anyone that eats dogs or cats, and I live in Canton. Having 3 cats in my house, I’m the one being tortured daily. How about this, you come to Canton one day, try to find any restaurants in the city or nearby town that have cat meat openly listed on the menu, you can beat me up right on the streets, if not, vice versa.
There might be some underground joints in the rural area that eat cats, but you can’t find them unless some one “hook you up”, you won’t find any in open public restaurants. What I know is most of these captured cats were killed and mix with sheep meats and sold as lamb kabobs, you know all those Uighurs on the streets
all over China that sells BBQ lamb kabobs? Someone bought raw meats from these kebob vendors and found feline DNA traits in them. People are eating cat meats deliberately. But you can’t do nothing to these vendors because it will be just another wave of ethnic clashes and China will be on evening news again for brutally suppresing ethnic groups. LOL The exotic- animal-eating-will-heal-yourself superstition will die down as the new generation judge their own right and wrong, so why don’t you all just STFU and wait?
The language is differnt tone, but the writing system is the same aren’t we? And culture wise, the traditions, the lunar new year, the harvest moon, the buddas and Daoism, how different are we? And all parts of China have ppl eating dogs, so you can’t claim yourself as a saint off this one. Simply as your parent or grand parents if they had dog meat before……yea that’s right, you Chinese, too bad. Kill yourself and better luck on your next life reincarnation.
Did I mention that dog meat is widely prefer in Germany until the 1980’s? And still in high demand in Korea? Oh right, who cares, just blame all on the Chinese. It makes you feel so up right and righteous, God will smile at you, heaven will open its gate for you. Having a bad day? Need an imaginary bad guy to exercise your heroism? Blame China and the Chinese today! It’s Free!
Kudos, “Teacher In China”
Just because you are American doesn’t mean that your shit don’t stink.
http://www.kfccruelty.com/
Look at those poor poor chickens, how their beak were chopped off and systematically abused and massacred….I used to have a chic as a pet, it follows me everywhere I go, stay by my side to keep warm and has its own emotions to show, it was my best friend during my childhood…….. But YOU!! YOU DAMN Americans ABUSE THEM AND SYSTEMATICALLY GENOCIDE THEM from the moment they were born…blah blah blah……..LMAO.
Before you point finger at others, think carefully if you are really a saint in the first place.
Like I said, there is NO EXCUSE for boiling cats and dogs alive-and you all can justify your animal cruelty all you want-we in the United States will continue to BOYCOTT all China products to the best of our ability. And it is due to hideous animal cruelty. It appears to me that this 17 year old who protests boiling alive cats and dogs has more sense than the majority of you. SHAME ON YOU CHINA AND WE AMERICANS ARE 100% AWARE OF WHAT YOU ALL DO TO PETS AND WE HATE YOU ALL FOR IT.
What excuse? You really think ppl in China gives a rat’s ass about what you think and what you plan to do?
You know for a fact? Have you been to China? How the hell did those rare breeds of animals like Panda, Yantze River alligators, cranes, red-face monkeys…etc get preserved and saved from extinction? These aren’t the so-called animal protection law? Ok, if you mean animal protection means for non-rare species like dogs and cats then there is none, and I highly doubt ppl in America get jailed and fined frequently when they abuse cats and dogs, just goto your local animal shelter to see all those beaten up animals yourself.
Propaganda my arse, you hide in your little town and you think you know the entire world from your computer, LAUGHING MY ASS OFF!!! You think your source is not exagerated? Some Chinese eats dogs and cats, and you, somehow, representing the ENTIRE U.S. of A, HATE CHINA ENTIRELY? Nice fawking logic there, so the whole world should also hold every American responsible for the death of innocent civilians in the War in Iraq? All you Americans deserve to face the wrath of terrorist attacks? Hello 9/11 to you!
Like I said, you ppl are doing nothing constructive whatsoever to change the situation, all you morons only know how to hate, curse, accuse and retaliate when things don’t go your way. In comparison to the subject of this thread, the GZCAT.ORG, which I am also a member of, you are doing nothing but making matters worse.
So you plan to boycott China and make China poor? LOL, ok…so when the Chinese are poor, they can’t afford pork and poultry, so they gonna eat more cats and dogs…hmmm.. NICE MOVE THERE!! WHAT ARE YOU A FOUR YEARS OLD?? GROW UP!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Actually millions of Westerners DO hate China because of animal cruelty. And yes we despise your country you sick twisted fucking dog and cat killers. You all deserve to rot and burn in hell. Seriously. I rejoice the fact your country is SO POLLUTED-please choke and die of the smog you all produce.
Sorry Luke, I couldn’t hear what you were saying- my Mum’s just frying up a fresh batch of Dog paws for dinner and…
what’s that Mum? Dinner’s ready? OK I’ll log off.
YAY! Wish people die because they kill cats and dogs, YAY!
What!? Westerners HATE us and despise our country?! That can’t be true! OH NOOOOEEESSSSS…ROTFLMAO!!!
You all think torturing and killing dogs and cats is a big joke-even a badge of honor-it is a world wide SHAME. You Chinese are TRULY sick EVIL ROTTEN wicked human pieces of shit that deserve to burn in hell, and you WILL. You all DISGUST ME.
LOL!!! The big joke here is you! A hypocrite, bigot, racist and a hater all in one! You are in the world class HALL OF SHAME.
Yup, we’ll burn in HELL just cuz you said so, Almighty Luke. Jesus is your son.
We all disgust you? Ask us if we care….LMAO!!!
I am more concern with where they get the cats. China do have a good reputation as a bushmeat eater. And if they were using stray cats as food, another SARS epidemic hit.
Luke the Holy, I’m quite curious on your perspective on how chickens are treated by KFC before they became buckets of meat served to millions of Americans.
May you enlighten me? Just a quick search on Youtube with the key word KFC will do.
I’m vegan. I don’t consume any animal products, have been vegan for years and years and am perfectly healthy. I am against organized farm factories, and 100% against the meat industry. I’m afraid most Americans do not share this view. However, We American do NOT see cats and dogs as food, and find it deplorable to serve them as food and make toys and coats out of them. If you must destroy them, for God’s sake please do not torture them, do not boil them alive, do not skin them alive, do not club them to death. Can’t you all find more humane ways of killing them?
BTW, the only major religion in this world that preach for vegan is Buddaism, which is the most common religion in China, and an integral part of Chinese culture. Vegans are common here, I hope they don’t rot in hell or choke to death from your curse.
I’m 100% in agreement with you! Very well stated! Good to know there is some hope for humanity left in this world.
Look if you all have to eat cats and dogs, will you all PLEASE humanely kill them? Please don’t boil them alive. Please do not skin them alive. Please quit hitting them over the head with clubs.
You see Luke, the biggest problem here is how you continuously using the word “ALL”, All-American, All-Chinese. When you say the word Chinese, that’s 1.4 billions of ppl. This is the same as when you see an African-American, you prejudge him being a criminal just because he’s black. When you come across a gay man, you assume he has HIV, just because he’s gay.
I don’t mind you having hatred or even aggression on THOSE who eat cats and dogs, but when you condemn us all, you are condemning those Chinese who doesn’t eat cats and dogs and those that trying to make a change in China, like this girl in the protest.
And I am telling you a fact, the majority of Chinese, especially those born after 70’s, 80’s and 90’s, do not eat and ARE against eating dog and cat meats. Believe me or not, call it BS or propaganda, I don’t give a fuck!
I have 3 cats, 2 were adopted, living in the demonized city of Guangzhou, and in the same forum as this girl in GZcat.org, ask the mods to reveal my IP if you don’t believe me and cross check on the gzcat forum. And alot of my neighbors also have dogs and cats as pets, it’s becoming very common to have house pets now so sentimental level for cats and dogs is raising rapidly in China, it woulnd’t be possible for anyone to think of such protest 10 years ago in China. Because dogs and cats, even domesticated, are used solely for the purpose of guarding properties and catching rodents.
What I do, to take part in making a change, is simply “Communication”, not HATE.
I lecture those around me how retarded it is to think dog and cat meats have any medical value, this is the main reason why they are still being eaten, it’s the “marketing” strategy for those selling dog and cat meats. Cat and dog meats are at least 2-3 times more expensive than pork, poultry and beef, they are not consumed as daily food.
I pursuade people I know that have pets to neuter their pets as soon as possible, unless it’s a special breed worthy of continue its bloodline. The biggest problem is a kid finds a cute kitten selling on the street, their parents bought it and 6 months later, when the cat matures, it either moan all night long or piss on the floor to spread its scent, the parent will find it annoying and throw it out of the house or let it go feral. The pet turns stray, mate with other pets of the same fate, and you will get hundreds of litters out on the street and all becoming live prey for those seeking profit…..the cost is zero.
Neutering a pet doesn’t cost much these days, it’s less than the cost of supplying a month of pet food, but somehow the Chinese culture treats the act of neutering as a taboo and rather set them “free” out on the street, and imagine they living their lives happily ever after…the fact is, these cats will either get run over by cars, or round up and killed by authroities as rabies is a serious problem in China. And then there are those who catch them and sell them as food.
When a friend come to my house and say how cute my cats are and want to get one for themselve, I ask them if they are prepared to take them in for a lifetime, and warn them all the inconvenience it will bring them and how I will kick their ass if they ever abandon them. Most would back out from getting a cat after they learn the facts…it’s not easy to live with cat hair stuck up in your nose when you sleep and scratched up furnitures, LOL.
The common Chinese saying is that “1 affects 10, 10 affect 100″. So hopefully, if i can make influence to those around me, and they can continue to make influence to those around them and to their kids, 1 or 2 generations later, animal cruelty and the obession of eating non-main stream animals will become obsolete.
I don’t find anyone here being constructive to the problem, only becoming a part of the problem, not solution. I’m done with this thread here, some of you here are simply exploiting this age-old topic of “Chinese eat dogs and cats” to vent your own hatred and bias, to boost your own mentality for superiority…you ppl need help.
Neo, I have to agree with you on your last posting…it’s all about education and making people realise that what they are doing is totally wrong. I think the main problem with what’s going on in China at the moment is the cruelty that is involved….seeing those poor cats crated like that is absolutely heartbreaking and hearing about dogs and cats being skinned alive :( Yes, people eat meat and they always will do but anyone can see that it is downright cruelty and showing total disregard for something that is living and breathing by treating these animals as they do. I totally applaud what this young girl is doing and hopefully it’s a start to making a difference….I do cat rescue in the UK and deal with feral cats…having them spayed/neutered and youngsters tamed down and rehomed. Everyone who loves animals should work together in trying to make this world a better place for all animals…yes, I joined sites that boycotted the Chinese but I have now realised there are some good guys out there that are trying to do their bit…there is good and bad in every culture and not everyone is the same….lets all try and work together in putting a stop to this torture instead of arguing….and those making stupid comments….you really should be ashamed of yourself and yes, I do believe in Karma and maybe one day, you’ll get yours.
Dear Luke,
No one cares that you’re vegan.
Agree with you re: the animal torture though.
Signed,
Everyone
How dare you call this brave and sensitive girl such names? You ask that she direct her energies elsewhere. Personally, I believe that the human suffering that China has seen due to natural disasters and disease is God’s judgement against you for your cruelty and insensivity to the suffering of animals and of your fellow human beings. May the whole country be struck with a plague.
China is an atheistic country…so technically you lose.
Animals are not food, not slaves , animals are not clothes or testing sources, they are just another nations. Support the Animal liberation Front. GO VEGAN. It’s a fucking shame! CHINA GO VEGAN!
How about passing out birth control to cut the population so we can have enough food to feed the worlds population, without eating cats..Man needs to Stop breeding like gerbils!!
Thank you very much for all your efforts to stop this cruel practice. It is so sad that compassionate people trying to stop cat eating (how do you know they are not vegan?) get criticised when the ones that should be criticised are the ones DOING NOTHING FOR ANYONE!
This young girl is very brave & kindhearted; bless her hearth. Was in Taiwan not too long ago & found out that talking about animal’s being abuses there as well as China is almost taboo. You don’t talk about it . Same with adopting animals /kids. You do not talk about it, this is what I was told by many young Taiwanese; It’s cultural thing. It was quite sad, I saw many stray’s on the streets and people wouldn’t do anything to help.
All animals feel pain and feel fear…they all want to live.
I do not eat anything that has a face.
China, you MUST make changes. Congratulations you oposite to this cruel practice: eating cats. But you MUST also to STOP:
- eating dogs
- the cruel against other animals like against bears
- using the cats and dogs or fur
- take the fur rom animals alive
China, my friends and I never buy your products because you so cruel with animals. Respect your citizens who opposite to these cruel practices!
There is no need for humans to kill animals in order to be fed and healthy. Cats and dogs are highly emotional and inteligent animals and anyone capable of hurting and killing a dog or a cat just to taste their meat is capable of doing the same thing to humans.
Racist? No-how about a dose of truth. If the shoe fits, wear it. China sucks.
It’s obviously personal opinion but my thoughts:
If cows were thought of as an idea of a pet dog and chickens were thought of as a pet cat in the beginning of time (when pets got popular, whenever that is), then the world views on cats and dogs as pets would be quite different. We love to eat beef and chicken, but why aren’t pictures and articles of cattle slaughterhouses being shown? They are just as heart wrenching as these pictures.
The people killing the cats don’t have the same personal attachment to cats/dogs since pets in China haven’t been a big thing. They’re starting to, as you can see from this article since people are protesting. But change is a-coming. Save your CAPS lock.
I applaud this girl and anyone who has compassion to place an end to cat consumption. Cats are feeling, very intelligent animals. The killing of the cats are barbaric and inhumane. The people who participate in their unethical murder was savages. I am proud to be a vegetarian. What nonsense from the people who respond about other plights in the world-shame on you! I care about many plights in the world and would help both animals and humans in a heartbeat so how ignorant to tell her to spend her energies elsewhere as if she doesn’t care about other causes. People who help animals are among the kindest on earth and it goes without saying how we help our human friends as well. We are placed on this earth for a short time but our souls will go on for eternity and for all the good natured and kind people in this world. For the savages who spent their narrow minded lives purposefully killing innocent animals or people-I pity you greatly for your lack of compassion. You must care for G-d’s creatures as well as our own.