Comments on: Hui Minority Beats Lanzhou Chengguan Onto Knees Crying

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:29:24 +0000

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By: 李

Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:33:49 +0000

The Hui People is actually a well united social group that they usually resolve things in a violence like other peoples believing Muslim. I grow up in Lanzhou and witness such events several times. I have friends who are Hui people while they have good manners. But some Hui students gathered even in primary school, trying to being a “leader”, robbing pocket money of others. They ruin the harmony by crimes, in groups. The government should use power to eliminate this situation.

By: xueyuanT

xueyuanT — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:44:25 +0000

lol, Tianya is full of idiots

Hui is a religion, people who believe in Islam are still Han Chinese

Hui people are completely docile compared to other muslims around the world, I’d even say they have better morals than the average Chinese

Ditch the 13 year old morons on tianya

By: Sonia

Sonia — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:51:46 +0000

Sigh…all this discord…and on so many levels. I wish that one day I will wake up and the world will be alright, but alas, that’s not going to happen. I can’t claim to be a Chinese citizen, but it is my cultural and ancestral homeland. Thus, it pains me even more deeply to see social unrest and unhappiness. Issues highlighted in this article:

1. Racism…or religionism, call it what you want. Unfortunately, ignorance has bred hatred on all sides of the racial/ethnic/cultural/socio-economic spectrum, and I wish it would just stop. I’m tired of having to justify to fellow Chinese-Americans, Asian-Americans, Caucasian-Americans, African-Americans, etc, and people of the world, that regardless of how I stand on particular political issues, and no matter how sensitive those issues are, I just cannot tolerate all these finger-pointing, hair-pointing, mother-bashing, culture-vandalizing tactics.

2. The above extends to beyond the obvious ethno-cultural divide. I think it’s too easy for people to point at other people and say “you have more money than me, therefore you’re greedy and I hate you”, or “you have more power than me, therefore you’re evil and I hate you”. Unfortunately, the poor and disadvantaged has a history of being bullied by the police and other types of law-enforcement. I can understand their resentment of the law and of people of the law, and that has unfortunately manifested in behaviors of rage and wrath and violence. And I fear that the reciprocation of that is not going to be pretty either, and I would certainly sympathize with, even while condemning, just as much, the actions that I fear the Chengguans would take.

…and what can I do but sit here thousands of miles away, being a pretentious and emo fart writing useless comments, apologizing for other pretentious farts writing other useless and abusive comments?

…sigh sigh sigh.

By: Kai

Kai — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:21:44 +0000

Hey, I appreciate you agreeing with me, but I want to be very clear that I storngly disagree with the name you’re using. I have a lot of good Jewish friends and I happen to think the eternal Israel-Palestine conflict is very complicated, and I empathize with both sides of that conflict. More importantly, it isn’t the issue at hand between Joe and I. Whether or not Joe’s “own kind” are racist is separate from whether or not I am racist. Of course, I fail to see how I have said or done anything remotely racist here and his whiny insistence isn’t very persuasive. It’d be interesting to see him make a real case substantiated with my quotes, but after several requests, he seems content to just accuse and not back up his accusations. That’s too bad and he’s being a jerk. Even so, I don’t think racially deogatory names like “joopig” are necessary for you to get your point across. There are good and bad people of any race, religion, ideology, etc. The best way to deal with people like Joe is to just stand firmly on solid ground. Call him an idiot or asshole or jerk, but leave race out of it. Race isn’t the source of his idiotic behavior, idiocy is.

By: Samael

Samael — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:56:32 +0000

fifty hitler post time?

By: joopig

joopig — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:44:31 +0000

I agree with what Kai said. And to that jew person, Joe Mazenski. As a jew yourself, how could you point your fingers at someone else while, your very own kind are doing way worse to the Palestinians ?

By: Omer

Omer — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:29:29 +0000

Every one has the right to earn. People did right to that Chuangan captain . But they should have followed the main group and should have beaten to death that entire CHuangan group and bastard police. Justice prevails.

By: Kai

Kai — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:49:23 +0000

Really? I think that? After I said this?

First of all, I think mainland Chinese people can be some of the most racist bastards on the planet

Like I said, you need to read instead of blindly whacking at that straw man you’ve so laborously built. I have never justified Han attitudes and action against the Hui and despite me asking you repeatedly, you’ve yet to quote me doing anything of the sort.

By: Joe Mazenski

Joe Mazenski — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:10:30 +0000

No, I said in your case, this is what you are doing. You’ve split off religion from racism in order to justify Han attitudes and action against the Hui. You find it very hard to admit that any Han people can be guilty of racism.