More translated secrets of Chinese people…
From Tianya, “Share your heart’s darkest secrets…do you have the courage?”:
阴暗的秘密:
At the time, I had not yet begun elementary school, and I lived at my grandfather’s home. At the front of the house were two potted plants, and either my uncle or someone told me you can put the eyes of a dragonfly underneath them and change them into pearls. So I squatted on the road and used a brick to smash a red dragonfly I had caught to pieces, but was not able to get its eyes off. Around the same time, I also buried an unknown dog that had somehow fell to death at my grandfather’s front door, which could be considered a good thing, but I am always thinking about that dragonfly.
Also, when I was a little bigger, I saw a fish in a pond that was swimming very slowly because it was about to lay eggs, caught it, and killed it. The fish’s belly was full of egg. That fish was truly helpless when trying to avoid me!
I have also cursed a person to die before, and that person died within 3 days from a heart attack. Later, I dreamed about him several times.
There were several girls who candidly told me that they had encountered sexual predators when they were small, and asked me [if I have], and I always say I have not but actually I have also encountered before. The darkest secret of course cannot be said, otherwise it would not be called darkest, right?
Of course, I have encountered many extremely bad people, but even more are those who cannot let go of the things they did when they were not mature.
阴暗的秘密:
Male, selfish, cold, no advancing, petty/stingy.
In reality, I do not really know how to get along with females. Also, do not really have people skills.
All my one night stands were found through the internet. At first, I kept count, but after 30, I stopped remembering. I have had a “4P” [sex with four people] before, and have taken sex pictures.
Amongst these have been those that liked me. Afraid of inconvenience, I am not willing to marry, and am very clear about it, but I still feel bad when breaking up
I am disillusioned with love, and now want to find someone to marry but am afraid of being deceived, not willing to give, yet still pretend to be deeply in love.
阴暗的秘密:
1. When I was young, I was molested by my male cousin. One time when I was having my afternoon nap, he took off my underwear and rubbed me. Actually, I had awaken, but I did not make any noise. Another time there was a banquet, and there were so many people that there was nowhere to sleep. In the middle of the night, I felt a hairy thing that scared me awake, and only then did I find out that my damn cousin had come to sleep on our bed.
2. I have also taken off my clothes with various sisters, brothers, nephews, and nieces and touched each other (seeing that there are many people who have done this before above, I feel much less guilty).
3. My last boyfriend and I reached third base. At that time, it was the first time I encountering a mature man’s “thing.” Very curious, I ducked my head under the blankets to take a look. Because we were both “CNCN” [处女处男, "chu nv chu nan", virgins], so we did not know to continue. However, later, I was dumped. Now I want to erase that person’s memory, and killing him would be even better, because I am so afraid that he thinks I was going to give him KJ [口交, "kou jiao", blowjob].
4. I have been with my current boyfriend almost four years, and again it was because of curiosity that my first time was given to him. I really regret it. With him, I have never had any desire, and to this day, ever time we ML it is very miserable. Maybe it is because his ability is not good, but because he is very good to me, I cannot be so heartless to break up with him because of this. My entire life, the only time I have ever felt desire was that one time with my previous boyfriend. Perhaps my entire life I will not have sexual happiness.
lwmilk:
When I was small, I was sexually abused by elders.
Aside from the very last thing [intercourse],
everything else I have done.
Now, I am very insecure, afraid to date/fall in love with others,
do not want to marry, want to be alone.
If it were possible, I want to find a “GAY” to marry. However, so far, I have not encountered any “GAY.”
Sigh…
chenguang_net:
In university, there was a class called Marx Philosophy that I never attended or turned in homework once. After the last class, I wanted to turn in the homework I was supposed to do, and chased the teacher out the door to say: “I am your student, have skipped class before, and there were some homework that I did not submit. The teacher paused for a moment, looked at the homework and said to me, “oh, so you are **, you are very strong, very violent [very daring], having never attended once, right?” I pretended to be confused, saying, “no, that is not true, the last few times I have all came!” The teacher said: “**! (there were bad words, but I left them out to protect the teacher’s image) I teach electromagnetic fields of electromagnetic waves!!”
It turned out I had saw the wrong teacher when running out to chase him down.
Sigh, this has been my heart’s pain…
阴暗的秘密:
In primary school, an old man I knew touched the my lower body.
From childhood until high school, my own father molested me (did not have intercourse). As a child, I did not understand to be ashamed, but after high school I began to feel very disgraced. I did not have the courage to tell my mother, and now I am very cold to him. Every time my mother blames me for not being good to him, I get furious, but I cannot explain. When he gets old, I will just send him to an old person’s home. Money I can give him, but I absolutely will not take care of him. I have fantasized many times of denouncing him as a beast in front of my mother.
I have had an abortion twice for my first boyfriend, and almost could not graduate.
Married for seven years, my husband is crude and cold, my heart is desolate.
At the start of the fifth year after marriage, I had an extra-marital affair, thinking I had met true love. Later I discovered he was a playboy, and we drifted for a year until finally breaking up. I loathe him each time we occasionally see each other due to work.
Now I have a distant boyfriend, exceptionally considerate and gentle, very warm, so my heart has temporarily been calmed.
PS: In my colleagues’ eyes, I am an open an bright, amicable woman.
Parents with daughters, perverted/deviant men are too many, take good care of your own babies.
Sometimes I feel there are too many secrets weighing me down that I want to go crazy, but most of the time I encourage myself to continue on, using a smiling face to welcome every day’s sunrise.
阴暗的秘密:
When I was small, I once discovered that my mother had an affair. My mother also knew that I had discovered it. I did not tell my father, and afterward for a very long time I did not want to speak to my mother. I know at the time I had discovered it, my mother no longer had contact with that person ever again. Now 10+ years have passed and I have long ago forgiven my mother, and my parents are very good now. But discovering this has continuously been my heartache, concealed for so many years in my heart. Starting from that moment, I think my personality became introverted, and I am always thinking too much!! When I was small, I was like a tomboy, very extroverted!!
I have said in my heart many times now, mother, I really do not blame you anymore!!
Starting when I was 11-years-old, I really liked sex, once gang-raping a 10-year-old little girl with a 14-year-old neighbor, and it really went in. After this happened, I was very scared, and just hearing police sirens would scare me to death, afraid the police were coming to arrest me. After growing up, I ran into that girl, and upon seeing me, her face was red like cloth. I also felt extremely guilty, and after looking at each other for a moment, I hastily walked off. I very much regret what happened.
马甲666888:
1: I am a “LES” [lesbian], but do not dare tell my parents, and what more, slightly like older women.
2: A moment of indiscretion led to my grandmother’s illness and death, and I have always felt very guilty, especially when seeing my mother be hurt for so long because of this. I am so sorry to my grandmother, my mother, my uncle, and my cousin. I always feel that I do not have the face to go face them. Every time I think of this, I want to cry.
3: I have secretly read another person’s diary before, and secretly look at the text messages of the person I like, to determine my place in her heart. Very despicable behavior.
4: I have fantasized being tied up by the person I like, and be strongly kissed.
5: I have played with someone else’s emotions. I clearly did not like her, but pretended to like.
6: I am very mean to a friend who has fallen in love with me, and it appears that some things that happened between us led to some problems in her heart…
7: I have thought of opening a gambling house, becoming an assassin killing detestable people.
8: After studying some Buddhism, I clearly warned myself to never eat meat or kill animals, but upon returning home I still eat a fish and meat. Even though I know fish eggs can become so many lives, I still eat a lot of them. It makes me feel shameless.
1 and 2 are the most serious, having wronged my parents and grandmother, hoping one day they can forgive me.
Note: Many of the these usernames are the same because people are using a public/shared account to post their secrets so no one knows their normal Tianya username.
To be continued…
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China needs good sex education so, so badly. There are WAY too many stories about molestation in here; of course I have no hard evidence, but on American and other “secrets” things like this I’ve seen lots of the “secrets” tend to be infidelity related, not incest or child abuse….not that those things don’t happen too. Still, I think if there was good sex education (1) people wouldn’t be repressed enough to do this shit to poor little girls and boys, and (2) victims would know they have options other than silently bear the weight for the rest of their lives.
I agree with you Charlie
yes, too many abortions.
-Why are White models and actors so frequently used for ads in Asia?
-Why do so many Asian women get eye enlarging surgery, dye their hair blonde, and wear blue contacts?
-How come some Asian youth are ‘not attracted to Asians’?
-How come if you are Caucasian or an English-speaking Asian in Asia, you are treated better everywhere you go?
-How come some Asians get ashamed from being around ‘too many Asians’?
-How influential is advertising, product placement, and is Western entertainment a form of ‘branding’ for White people?
This round of secrets is depressingly believable.
I would, however, like to hear more about how that “moment of indiscretion” on the part of the “LES” led to the illness and death of her grandmother. Did she and her lover leave the window open when they were getting it on, thus creating a draft that did in Grandma? Or did Granny walk in on them while they were using 茶鸡蛋 as 阴道球 and lose the will to live?
I apologize for the gross-factor on that last example, but without proper sex-ed, who knows what these kids will do next.
China likes boys and had (or maybe still has) a weird thing about penises. Grandparents or parents would suck on a boy’s penis and drink his pee. They’re not doing it from a sexual point, only a weird cultural point.
Some might feel this is sexual abuse, some won’t. Some will let this negatively affect their life, some don’t get affected at all.
I personally think its weird and wouldn’t do it myself but don’t think is sexual abuse at all.
@ maverick4:
For your Q 1-3: it’s simple… you want what you don’t have!
Q 4- it depends on where you go and how you look like. my room mate was always treated as local Chinese compared to us treated fairly well enough, because he looks like and his English is very good. it’s not same everywhere.
Q 5- personal feelings.. i bet it differs
Q 6- i don’t care about that influential thing, until and unless product is reliable.
P.S by the way, while maverick4 is interrogating so much about Asians, Asians & Asians.. which countries do you folks consider as Asia? I don’t know others but whoever I have met only consider East Asia as 亚洲. grr…
@ Name:
Dude, what? I’ll be the first to admit I have NEVER heard of that before. Please tell me you’re joking.
@ maverick4:
Dominant western culture. People tend to emulate those they perceive as being more “successful” than they are, in whatever category. This can change, but it requires another culture to eclipse the current dominant “culture” and remain at the top until its own values become the object of emulation.
I’ll give an example: Manga and anime. The Japanese are so good at it, that their “style” and even “motifs” have been emulated in Western comics and cartoons.
@ Charlie:
I agree. There needs to be more sex education in China, but when sex education still worries parents in the West, you can imagine how much more worried they are in relatively more “conservative” China. Look for the 1st grade sex ed book post here on chinaSMACK. It was cool.
For the record, however, I notice a lot of molestation or sex abuse postcards on PostSecret too. Is it more or less than China per capita, I have no idea. I’m a bit saddened to think it happens more in China though.
I’m not making it up. It did happen (at least in Main Land China). I don’t know if it still happens now. Talk to some Chinese guys that are now in the mid to late 20s.
But really, its not an issue. Some people that went through it might be negatively affected, but some people don’t think anything of it and live happy normal lives.
The term “Sexual Abuse” is seriously way over used.
I should clarify that I’ve only seen/heard of this happening with infants and small kids up to 4, 5, or maybe a little older. I don’t know of any grandparents/parents doing this with older kids.
Heres a secret:
http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/604/613.html?sector=CC&competitorid=72789
Xia Wan is actually born in 1983, NOT 1981. His coach faked his birth year to allow him to compete 2 years early and underage. He has 2 siblings, both are older sisters. Last I heard all of them still live in Changchun.
I’m fully prepared to testify about this under oath infront of the IOC. I have nothing against him but his younger older sister is a liar and did steal from me.
Once again, 100% truth
@Name
Dude, you can’t just throw something like that out there and be so non-chalant about it. grandparents sucking on kids’ penises and drinking their pee “isn’t an issue”? It seems like a pretty fucking big issue to me. At least give us some sort of reference where we can verify it or something.
hahaha christ, i’m trying my hardest not to burst out laughing here, that’s the weirdest thing I’ve heard in a long time.
Well obviously I can’t prove it. All I can say is its real and they weren’t coming from a sexual angle, talk to some older guys or grandparents about Chi Ji or Chi Xiao Ji (I think thats the correct Pinyin), especially people from familes where they only have 1 son and a few daughters. They were just really glad they FINALLY had a grandson.
They also didn’t suck on it like oral sex or anything, they’d just put the penis in their mouth and take it out. And I’ve only seen it with infants to kids around 4, 5, or slightly older. I’ve never seen it with older kids, like 10 or older.
Weird but real. I’m sure if you guys in China ask around some grandparent will say they did it.
Well, yes, so long as the kid isn’t horribly traumatized by it and rendered unfit for society, I suppose it isn’t a big issue. But yeah, I’m not so much worried about the morality of it as I am simply astounded by the existence of such a phenomenon. Of course, weirder things have happened, but it’d be cool if you could show us where you heard of such a thing.
I’ve heard of the penis thing before. It was during the election of Jim Webb of Virginia. He wrote a novel that mentioned the phenomenon. It was a minor controversy during the campaign.
What’s the big deal about cocksucking grandparents and kiddie pee drinkers? I thought it was culturally normal in the west, too.
Shit, apparently I’ve been had! Dammit, Grandpa, I’ll get you in the afterlife!
(no grandparents were actually harmed in the making of this post)
@ Sushi:
After a few Google searches, the closest thing I can find relating to Jim Webb of Virginia is an excerpt from his book “Lost Soldiers”:
But this was about Vietnam, not China (and even then, I’m not sure how commonplace such a phenomenon was in Vietnam outside of what some American wrote from his tour of duty there). Although not an exhaustive search, I can’t find anything via Google about Chinese traditions involving grandparents performing fellatio on grandsons. Name, you gotta give us something more substantial than that. Hearsay doesn’t really cut it, and we’re unlikely to find any Chinese guys from the 1920s alive to corroborate your testimony here.
Hi Kai,
I found Name’s comments from 3:16pm and 3:36pm in the Spam and just de-spam them at this moment.
I also have not heard grandparents doing this before.
Talk about some awkward keyword to search in Google: C*ck s*cking, Grand Parents, Chinese Boy, pee drinking…
I don’t even need to explain what kind of search results it returns.
I do not encourage anybody to try to do some researches about this… Even if it’s well intentioned.
Hahaha
Jesus Christ I’m in tears here, this is the funniest, weirdest shit I’ve ever been a party to.
wtf and Rick in China – I love you guys, that was genius.
Hey Fauna
That, by the way, is a brilliant link to display at this point in the posting conversation. In case you missed it y’all “Charter 08: Why it should be called Wang”. Did you actually know that we sometimes call penis “wang” in English, or is that just a coincidence?
Pee drinking? Sounds like someone is a fan of those porn fetish vids.
There are plenty of mainstream Chinese movies where there are naked boys, showing their penises, and adults actually touch it or flick it. One example is one with those two little fat monk kungfu kids from the 90s. One of the adult actors, a famous one at that, actually plays with the kid’s penis.
I suprised that I not hear more stories about kids playing doctor together. Or “doll parts.” Whatever happened to the innocent childhood play?
in the ancient chinese medical knowledge a lot of people believe young boy’s pee can cure internal injury.
in Japan Penis sculpture is one of the gods, people still prostrate oneself, worship Penis
in western sexual intercourse， “SM” a lot of the people enjoy drinking pees
i will never drink it but as long as people enjoy drinking it and no harm to others, i am totally fine with that.
excluding the freak pedophilia, chinese old grandpa touch or flick boy’s penis, for them it is the same way to touch boy’s head and face, showing how lovable is the little boy.
@Name
Dude, I am an American living in China. I’ve been here about 3 years. I have never, ever seen anything like the child-c*ck-sucking grandparents that you described. I’m not Chinese, so I don’t take personal offense to what you said. But just to keep yourself from looking like a dumbass, offer a shred of proof before you drop a bomb like.
I have a lot of good friends of many different ages here, but, alas, there is no one with whom I would feel comfortable bringing up that topic.
@Mike
You’re right. One movie where a famous actor flicks a young boy’s penis is 喜剧之王 http://www.douban.com/subject/1302425/ with Stephen Chow. It’s actually a hilarious seen, but when I saw the “flicking”, I was a little grossed out.
I have an update on the piss drinking. My mother actually found an answer for me via this Baidu “answer”: http://baike.baidu.com/view/349004.html
In short and in “the old days”, pre-adolescent and virgin boy pee (aka, pre any sort of ejaculate) was considered to be devoid of “poison” and could be used for medicinal purposes.
However, thus far, for “Grandson Fellatio Gate,” I haven’t found any corroboration for grandparents performing fellatio on their kids. As for parents or grandparents flicking or otherwise innocently playing with a little boy’s penis, I think that transcends culture and is not unique to the Chinese whatsoever.
“pre-adolescent and virgin boy pee (aka, pre any sort of ejaculate) was considered to be devoid of “poison””
I’ve always thought that people in China have this view – that’s why many people seem to think it’s ok for kids to piss anywhere and everywhere through the famous trouser-slit.
The best place I’ve seen this happen was inside a shopping mall at the entrance to a Louis Vuitton store.
I posted a reply yesterday but looks like it got stuck in Spam again. I’ll try again.
I don’t blame anyone for not believing me. But what I wrote is still true. And once again, my guess is it doesn’t happen much now, so ask some grandparents.
Its not hearsay, I saw it happen decades ago in Eastern China.
http://www.18381.cn/?p=90
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3083577.stm
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20010601/414486.htm
http://books.google.com/books?id=xKGxTcF8u-sC&pg=PA4&lpg=PA4&dq=chinese+child+urine&source=web&ots=AqhLNl3H6t&sig=KovEPa1D0L-bSPFj6sZ-H2CLaBg&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result
-Name
@all
the playful flicking of the penis once is something completely different from what we’re bringing up with Name. Hell, I’m sure most professional sports teams do as much to each other in locker rooms all over the West.
@Kai
I think “Grandson fellatio gate” is already the best phrase of 2009.
@Twang
Best place for me was on a subway platform at rush hour. Mom was holding her kid next to a garbage bin. The kid released a virginal stream of urine shaped like a rainbow right into it.
Second best place is on the steps of a Da Zhong, right in front of and all over the only place you could walk if you wanted to enter the store. There was miles and miles of open ground to either side of that one particular area.
◎ Kai
“Grandson fellatio gate”. LOL. Even I have never heard grandparents sucking grandsons’ penis thing before, I’m busy calling my grandma to make sure they didn’t do that to me. Old people in my village (in Huabei plain) like to bet on whether a new born infant has a ‘little cigarette end’. My grandma told me that she happily lost one bottle of baijiu to a senior relative. 囧rz
I’m happy to check back and note that thus far there is nothing substantiating grandparents blowing grandsons.
I’ve also heard a little about weird penis stuff in China from a guy I used to date. He said when he was little and went to the bathhouse with his dad, the other local guys would tease him by pinching his penis. I thought it was perverted, but he said it was normal in northeast China, kind of a male bonding thing.
I’ve also heard about Middle Eastern man kissing their baby sons on the penis. There was this scandal in the US because this family’s kid was put in foster care because of it, but the family’s lawyer argued that is was just a cultural thing, something normal that dads did because they were grad to have a son. I’m not sure how the case was resolved.
Cambodia http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Oct-14-Sat-2006/news/10225038.html
@ MF:
Not sure if “male bonding” is the right term, but it sounds like older adults just teasing (non-sexually) the new lad (invariably a little boy). I’ve seen plenty of pictures of Chinese mothers drawing big elephant ears around their little baby boy’s pecker because its cute. It’s all harmless, involving the little one eyed snack before it grows to a side that is no longer cute.
As for the Middle Eastern man thing, I’m sure that’s a harmless cultural thing too. It isn’t as if “Westerners” haven’t had cultural traditions that non-Westerners have found baffling.
Again, as long as there aren’t any weird sexual gratification going on at the expense of innocent children, it shouldn’t be regarded with too much suspicion or contempt.
MF is right – there was a guy in US who took a photo holding his son in the air and kissing his ballsack to send back home in “praise” that they had a baby boy, he was arrested for child molestation as mentioned.
As for the fellatiogate thing, ‘Name’ clearly said that it wasn’t like fellatio, but just ‘put in their mouth’, maybe kiss or put in their mouth is the same, but there’s a big difference between that and jerking it off into their mouth while it hardens. I don’t know why people are trying to ‘prove’ that fellatio didn’t happen….it was never claimed….just that they stick the baby dicks in their mouths which seems….to be….surprisingly close to true or true.
His quote, “They also didn’t suck on it like oral sex or anything, they’d just put the penis in their mouth and take it out. And I’ve only seen it with infants to kids around 4, 5, or slightly older. I’ve never seen it with older kids, like 10 or older.”
Okay, despite the fun we were having with the “Grandson Fellatio Gate” that spawned from Name’s initial comment of:
…he did indeed retract and clarify himself later. In the interest of not perpetuating something he already corrected himself for, I’ll just say I haven’t heard of grandparents putting grandson penis in their mouth. I’m not saying its impossible (as it appears other cultures have at least kissed grandson penises), I’m just saying I personally haven’t seen or heard of it happening with Chinese people as Name testifies.
Drinking baby boy pee in traditional Chinese medicine, yes.
Inserting baby penis into grandparent mouth, no…or, at least, not that I’ve seen corroborating evidence for.
Actually, the case that Name told about is far more interesting “Chinese people secret” than anything posted here. Regarding the size and diversity of China, I can easily imagine that there’s lot more weird custom’s.
@Fuller
Kid peeing in trash bin in Carrfour on Saturday is my highlight. Second one is bin in Tian Tan near round altar.
Kai: As for parents or grandparents flicking or otherwise innocently playing with a little boy’s penis, I think that transcends culture and is not unique to the Chinese whatsoever.
I think you need to have a long talk with your parent / grandparents about this if this happened in your childhood.
This sure as heck doesn’t happen in my culture!
I can imagine all the pedos coming to China and marrying Chinese, having babies, and when their wives walk in on them with the baby boy’s cock in their mouth they’ll be like, “What, honey, I’m just trying to learn your traditions!” — BAHRAIN? Michael went to the wrong country!
Ok let me TRY to clarify things…
When I said “Grandparents or parents would suck on a boy’s penis” I meant what I saw was a person would put the kid’s penis in their mouth and suck on it really quickly. Whole thing lasted 1 or 2 seconds
After I wrote the above people started comparing it to fellitio/oral sex. So I wrote “They also didn’t suck on it like oral sex or anything, they’d just put the penis in their mouth and take it out.” to try to differentiate it from anything sexual. They weren’t touching the kid’s penis with their hands. They weren’t using alot of force like actual oral sex, they weren’t moving their head or doing any other oral sex actions. This wasn’t done in a room alone. I saw this happen infront of the rest of the family (can’t remember exactly how many people were there, it was decades ago).
The people I saw DID actually very quickly suck on the penis but it did NOT in anyway remind me of fellatio/blow jobs. I HOPE I clarified things…
China – Manchu mothers tickle the genitals of their little daughters and suck the penis of a small son
http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/eln07_evolution.html
Morocco – The kissing of the child’s penis is a normal gesture for a female relative who has not seen him since his birth.
http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/ARCHIV/GUS/GUSVOLIICH9.HTM
Las Vegas – Attorney: Putting son’s penis in mother’s mouth cultural display of love
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Oct-14-Sat-2006/news/10225038.html
Hmmm, maybe its a wound sucking thing, were these children circumcised before hand…?
I wonder, is having your penis placed in the mouth of a peer better than having it mutilated by them or not?
@ Mike:
What culture are you from? As far as I’m aware, I’m quite certain many parents or grandparents from a majority of cultures have seen their baby son or grandson naked before (perhaps during a bath or a diaper change), and have played or teased the little guy in some way by flicking the little dude’s pecker. Obviously, this is done in a non-perverted, non-sexual, unharmful way, not dissimilar to tickling the dude’s tummy or lightly pinching his butt. There’s something seriously wrong if your family or culture cannot view a baby’s penis outside of some deviant sexual context.
@ Kai,
Don’t get a job with children in the US unless you want to do 20 to life.
Seriously.
There seem to be at least 2 different Mikes here… anyways… I mentioned the flicking the kid’s penis from the movie as an observation.
Would we all be able to agree that an actor playing with a kid’s penis in a movie is very different from someone giving their own kid a bath? Isn’t the movie situation exploitive and the family situation not?
@Name
I apologize for implying that you are a “dumbass” for writing your original post. I think it’s clear to everyone what you did and didn’t mean now.
@Everyone else
It would be a lot more interesting if there were someone here arguing very strongly that grandparent-grandson-c*ck-sucking is a regular, accepted phenomenon in China, but at this point making any more jokes about it is just flogging a dead horse.
@Everyone else again
I saw a completely awesome almost-fight here in Shenzhen, China. Two men were yelling at each other and trying to hit each other. Fortunately, each had a friend to hold him back. When the smaller man wrestled a small, shiny silver tire jack out from under the front seat of his car, the enormous crowd surrounding the two men took one timid step closer. When the much heavier-built man and obvious favorite in the fight plucked a heavy, black baseball bat from the dashboard of his car, the crowd let out an audible “Ooooo…” and took a big step forward. It went downhill from there, as each man’s friend was able to keep the fighters apart. (Curiously enough, the stronger of the two, the guy wielding the bat, was successfully restrained by his much smaller female friend.) Well, the point of the story is that this fight, had it continued, would have been a complete disaster, a terribly violent blood bath played out before the uncaring eyes of the gaping onlookers, just like the time when each man’s grandmother sucked his penis in front of his family when he was born. Pwn3d, lol~!
Kai, when it comes to sex, the US has some fucked up ideas and laws
What is “Child Porn”? I THINK some cases actually went to trial but I couldn’t find anything with a quick search
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2006/07/18/photos/index.html
http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/31/kincaid/index.html
Genarlow Wilson (17) sentenced to a mandatory 10 prison term for getting consensual oral sex from a 15 year old. If they actually had intercourse instead of oral sex he would have been charged with a misdemeanor, punishable up to 12-months, and with no sex offender status. After 2 years in prison the laws were changed and he was eventually released
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genarlow_Wilson
Another relatively recent story (think late last year). Sorry couldn’t find this story online. But my memory of what I saw on CNN:
Underage girl on some social networking site posts sexy pictures of herself and lies about her age (posted a legal age). Has sex with atleast 2 over 21 guys that she met through her social networking page. Someone finds out the girl lied about her age and the guys are charged with having sex with a minor. CNN’s legal consultant said he couldn’t tell the girl was underage and the host of the show also agreed. Don’t know the outcome of this.
@Name
Ok, I give. 100% clear now. And actually, now that I think about it, why wouldn’t a culture like China, that has traditionally favoured and longed for a male child in the family, have some sort of ritual revering that exact thing that makes a baby male.
Still, in retrospect, this all gave me some seriously good “morning tea” laughs during a stressful week at work, so thanks!
@ Name:
Yes, I know. As I said, I saw your retraction and clarification, and was only perpetuating the whole thing just as a joke. Judging by the comments above, I believe everyone understood that. No worries, you’re okay.
@ Mike (one of you):
You’re an idiot. You’re taking a common phenomenon in many cultures, including white-bread American and European, and misrepresenting it by dragging it off the deep-end, insisting there must be some evil in it. It is the kind of obsession with politically-correctness that precedes thought control and police states. See what I did there? I just dragged your disagreement with me off the deep-end as well.
For the love of God, being non-sexually amused with your child or grandchild’s baby pecker as a parent or grandparent (redundant, I know, but the emphasis seems to be needed with you), is not that difficult to imagine or hear of. It’s not t that people go around advertising it nor do they go around whispering about it to each other with hushed voices as if they implicitly felt guilty about it, it is just something that happens for very innocent reasons, not far removed from being amused by a baby’s tiny little hand or foot, his fingers or toes, and if a human baby had one, its tail.
Perceiving this as being sexual or deserving of being labeled as some sort of deviant sexual crime says more about the accuser than the person being accused. I genuinely feel sorry for you that you’ve been socialized in such a way that you’re going to see malicious, incestuous, and sexual abusive intent whenever an adult laughingly points, harmlessly flicks, or otherwise briefly touches a baby’s penis. They’re not caressing it, they’re not jerking it, nor are they trying to sexually stimulate it, for the child or themselves. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. These are adults finding a cute little thing cute. Is it that difficult for you to wrap your mind around such a concept? Jeebus, What puritanical environment did you spawn from?
Kai thinks a little man’s ‘little man’ is cute! tee hee hee.
Jeebus, What puritanical environment did you spawn from?
The US is plain fucked up when it comes to kids, and sex in general. We even say “more than three shakes and you’re playing with it” when someone is taking a piss.
Anything that should be covered by a bathing suit is off-limits, period. If the police officer holds up a doll, and the child points to those areas, it’s a witch hunt, plain and simple.
Even the accusation of molestation is enough to lose your job most of the time. And the charges aren’t dismissed because your innocent, they just can’t prove it *yet*. That’s how the justice system looks at it. They keep the records in case something else ever comes up.
And forget ever being a part of the Parent-Teacher’s Association or going along on a field trip as a chaperon. You just can’t do it, whether you’ve been charged or not.
Hi all!
Very funny discussion you guys were having about the Grandson fellatio gate :)
It’s not directly related, but I’d like to point out the movie scene in Farewell my concubine, when an old eunuch (I think he’s an eunuch) has a young boy pee in a kind of basin, and then enjoys watching him peeing.
Don’t know how the director/writer came up with such an idea.